As a senior golfer tried a few drivers ,cobra Taylor made sim max and now use my Ping g425 don't think ill change it as it hits most fairways depending on the weather can't warrant the price of the new drivers tbh great blog info
I have the 2022 Stealth HD and love it. Loved it even more when I took the shaft from my M4 and put it in the Stealth hd. I have also recently switched to the Maxfli Straightfli golf balls. These actually work and will also help you keep that fade or draw from getting out of control.
My bag is still consisting of a Sim 2 Max D. I usually hit a draw or fade on will but the weighting has helped me control my ball a bit more. No exaggeration of my already draw, but help with the fade on not losing it so far right when I cut it. I think there's a lot of people out there that would benefit by trying the "draw" model. what I like about my Sim2 is that it still sits square and is not presenting closed
AMEN! An in play ball is 100% better than a 2 mile out of play in the water ball. I just hit it yesterday and the stealth sucked big time. I consider myself a decent driver for 53yrs old-250ish or 275 on really warm days-but dang-I was all over the place with this driver and mostly hit the inside heal. It was damn near impossible to hit it correctly in the middle. I left the store shaking my head-went to the the driving range 1/4 mile away and hit my sim max d true and straight on first hit 243 yards. When something works-don't change it just for the sake of changing it.
I have Sim Max and TM M2. Love them. Will buy a regular SIM used next to set up a draw bias over the Sim Max which is good for fades, for me. M2 is a classic monster too, and I have an old Ti Bubble 2 as well. What sound/feel. Love it!
Totally agree. Anything that can make the game easier and doesn’t affect your swing is a great benefit to any golfer. That doesn’t mean we have to not continue to try and iron out any big swing defects just gives us more time, while enjoying our current game.
Yeah right, unless you're a PGA pro or play golf for a living no need to keep the frustration trying to iron out your defects. Go out there play golf and drink beers.
Still using my original rogue… tried most of the last 2 years drivers - no distance increase. Maybe they were a bit more forgiving but I normally hit it pretty good and when I do occasionally miss it -I miss it by a mile and no tech is ever going to save me
My carbon wood face started peeling off the club head 6 months after buying. My friend just had the same thing happened to him. Im convinced there was a pretty serious QC issue with the original stealths. Time will tell for the stealth 2's
@@BundyPoppy that's right. I had a new one within a week. Nothing bad to say about TM customer service. They treat the customer right. Just wouldn't be surprised if I'm doing it again in 6 months lol. Hopefully by then they'll be out of the old stock and will send me a stealth 2
I’d say, keep both drivers and work on the swing. On the days where you slice too much, pull out the stealth 2 HD, and when you start to hit hooks with the stealth 2 use the stealth. I think working to neutralise face to path is ongoing work.😊
Hi Hope don’t mind just wanted post a quick comment on your pxgs - I know you tested 0317 and how pleasing and easy you found them, I was pleased to see them in your bag today … I too have an awesome fitting on the pxg gen5 0311, as you did, but later changed to 0317 because of a better and sweeter ball flight than my gen 5’s , but I lost distance. Recently I was given a Ping STEEL shaft black dot G430 to warm up for a driver fitting, and they just didn’t work for me, the PGA Pro swapped my ping G430 to graphite regular and BLUE DOT head …. WOW Andy, I was totally BLOWN away with them - even better ball flight with nice draw and DISTANCE, so easy, they utterly suited my swing… I gained 12+ yards on a 7 iron. BLUE DOT was so important … Although I really like the PXG package, made a decision to say goodbye PXG
Had to trade my Stealth due to dispersion issues. Moved over to G430 SFT and it has been so consistent. I think long term I had some concerns with the Carbon fiber face, maybe misplaced, but need to keep my clubs for a number of years.
Great info. I'm in the market for a new driver and irons and your videos help so much. Once my coach gets my swing as good as yours I'll get custom fitted.
Go hit a TSR, you won’t go back to that TM! I got properly fit by Titleist into a new TSR, completely different from my old PXG, night and day improvement.
@@paulfordyce4393 I’m 61 and my swing speed is very average LOL. At least in my experience the fitting process at PXG and Titleist were completely different, the Titleist rep was far more experienced. The PXG fitting was very cookie cutter not a lot of thought, if your swing speed is x you get this shaft etc… The Titleist immediately picked up on the ball flight and high spin, got me into a stiffer lower trajectory shaft, my drive total distance went from 215-220 to 240.
I'd rather go with Paradigm. Better feel/sound than TSR which I love that driver. The older TSI had a better feel in most golfers assessments Most low handicap golfers in my area are going Callaway over Titleist drivers. AZ.
Late to this party, but I'm finding all kinds of stuff about the Stealth and Stealth 2 exploding or caving in, "from using shitty range balls" etc etc. I just purchased a Stealth 2+ on sale at Dicks to go with my 2nd hand Taylor made dominant set of clubs I just picked up. Is it really as fragile as some people are making it out to be?
Hey Andy, replace the 2 gram weight in the rear of the club head with a 14-17 gram weight as I did. Fixed everything for $10. Stealth 2 put a 24 gram weight in rear of club. Save $600
i ended up going with the STEALTH 2 HD Driver in 9 degree..... 3 and 5 wood STEALTH 2 HD and the 4 HYBRID HD......2 and 4 STEALTH DHY.....STEALTH irons 5 - AW........and i LOVE all of them...thx Taylormade .....cheers from Canada
I am reading of a few occasions where these driver faces are cracking, but it's not just TM, but also Callaway, and a few others. I guess there's always going to be a very small percentage where the specs get exceeded and things happen. But, I'm definitely looking for quality and durability. Thoughts?
Yup exactly the driver I was fitted into 3 weeks ago My bad shots that used to be on the next fairway to the right are now just in the rough on the correct fairway with hardly any loss of distance
great video Andy....i currently have the PXG GEN 5 Driver 10.5 degree and also the SIM 2 MAX 10.5 degree.............. really like the Stealth 2 HD but i am trying to figure out whether to go with 9 or 10.5 degrees.....I am 58 so not getting any younger... swing has slowed down a little......what are your thoughts ? or anyone elses also....thx...cheers from Canada
You only need to touch the stealth face and its groves to know that its basically a driving wedge. It grips the shyte out of the ball and I've re-purchased the m6 d-type a few days ago for this reason. Newer tech isn't always better is my biggest lesson. (8 hcp)
I only tried that last week and agree it was impressive and caught me out a a little by surprise. I have been testing the HD for a few months and at this stage went for what I know but....
I dumped it too. The first thing is there is no feedback, it do not matter where you hit it on the face, you do not feel the impact, toe, heel, middle, impossible to tell the difference. The second thing is when you do get a mishit, the ball just dies mid air and drops straight down, really weird ball flight, never had that before. It is however really straight.
Had a driver Lesson in the sim with my club pro and was hitting my own driver 250 ish, he handed me his own Stealth 2 with X stiff shaft and immediately hit over 270y, I need one but a bit pricey lol
Yes, every golfer has the ability to upgrade to a new TM driver model every season, right? Got to keep those pros with a decent salary cause they don't get enough money!
It's that RED VENTUS shaft!!! Mine tends to do the same thing, BUT I bought a Taylormade SDLR with a Fujikura Speeder shaft, switched out the shafts and it made a world of difference!!! Keep the head, ditch the shaft!
I played a Custom fitted TM R9 Supertri for 10 years. Moved to a G410, slightly counterbalanced setup and super forgiving. I like the turbulators, simple finish and does the job. See no need to buy into the rest of the marketing spin…..
Your videos are very helpful because we have the same swing speed . Andy from another video of yours I have that shaft as a ProForce V2 5F3 High Launch 50gram Reg. Flex. Is that correct? Is the shaft at standard length or did you cut it back? Is that 9* head set at 9* or is it turned up to 10 or 11? In your other videos you were often at 10.5 and you had the standard Stealth 2 set at 11*.
So yes to the shaft but 1” shorter than std. playing the 9 head as it seems to launch higher which I feel is to do with the 30g weight in rear position
Love my Stealth and also have the 9 degree. You are right, my Cobra was more forgiving, but nothing I have ever hit feels like that Stealth when you hit it square in the mouth. When the stars align, it is one sweet club.
I think a small sample of shots on a launch monitor would provide that data but the reality is I made my decision based on playing multiple rounds on the golf course
Andy . Be careful as Taylormade tip some of the driver shafts from standard and I think the UST shafts are one of them so whatever your flex is it could be one stiffer therefore making the fade worst. UST say you don’t tip there shafts for a driver for the standard flexes.
@@TheAverageGolfer t th e wife’s a pro golfer using reg and used the same shaft UST Proforce high launch shaft and could never hit a draw which was her natural shape with Taylormade drivers from the Sim onwards only to find out there where all tipped. Didn’t have the same problem with the G410 or 430. So I don’t understand how Taylormade fit people in these shafts when there not the right flex.
I honestly thought it was going to be the PXG you were changing too. Whenever I saw you hit it on other videos you hit it dead straight and quite far. Shocked when you pulled the stealth 2 out. Also with how good the PXG looks this year and the head covers alone are phenomenal just was so sure that'd be the one 😅
Fair enough Andy, I just felt you looked so comfortable with that PXG with how straight you hit it. And you said yourself it comes off the face so fast.
It's funny but i have just been fitted for a stealth2 HD also from my current b21 big Bertha. Went into the fitting thinking ping g430 was the 1 for me and also tried paradym x but nothing compared to the stealth hd
The price of a stealth 2 driver (£500) gets you lots of lessons that would teach you to swing the club on the correct path and control the club face better, thus helping hit every club better. Rather than paying £500 for ONE club to help reduce a swing fault path or club face or both... why pay £500 for ONE club that will help minimise a fault, when spending £500 on lessons with a Pro will help all swing paths and face control
@The Average Golfer been playing around the same, always room for improvement, even off 6 handicap. Do you remember faldo taking his swing to bits and even your buddy James Robinson changing his swing after lessons with Pete Cowen
Another great video Andy. I current use a TSi2 and have had a shot of TSR2 🎉which I quite liked. I have a TaylorMade fitting on Monday 01/05 and I am hoping that the Stealth 2 HD model could be the one for me for pretty much exactly the same reasons as you detailed on the video (I tried original Stealth but could not get on with it). I had a Ping fitting last week and I have a fitting at the Titleist Centre at Craigielaw in just over a week. I suspect I will end up being fitted for TSR2. However, if I’m buying with my heart I really want to go with Stealth 2 as I really like the look of it and as an initial guess I would suspect the HD model might be best suited to me. But I guess if there’s not much to choose between 3 great drivers the choice of what to buy might be a tough one.
If Nelly Korda is prepared to put the Stealth HD in her bag, rather than reengineer /adjust her swing, then I think it validates your thinking and final decision.
Average golfer , what happened to all your PXG stuff . LOL ,, do a what's in the bag , like to know, so sounds like either who gives you the best deal or free stuff is who your going to say is the best , just wondering if you still do complete driver tests of all brands . this seems to be more of an info commercial . IMO of course
I'm still using my Ping G driver, at least seven years in action. I'd love to update but AUD1,000 to get into a current model is just not realistic. Investment in lessons is both cheaper and more beneficial in the long term. Ping misses out but my club pro wins.
If it works for you, then it was the right change. I tend towards a slight draw with my Stealth 1 so probably not a change I need to make. For most of us spending £500+ on a new driver is money which would be better spent on a package of lessons. As for shafts, when you find one that works I agree it makes such a difference, it is so confidence inspiring
@@TheAverageGolfer That V2 shaft is made to get the ball in the air. So you wouldnt need to hit up the ball much? The reg V2 shaft at 58g would have a low torq. 3.2? It would be straighter.. maybe?
The problem isn’t the driver, it’s your swing is like mine and 99% of most amateurs, it’s not that great and it’s inconsistent. You take it way inside on the takeaway and come over the top on the downswing. You can’t buy a game. I’m in my mid 50’s, an 8 handicap, and have both the standard stealth (not 2) and the PING G425, when I put a good swing on either they both work well, conversely, when I struggle with my driver swing I hit the G425 worse than I hit the Stealth. At the end of the day, you own your swing and that is the biggest factor in making a the ball fly straighter.
I strongly believe most of us non pro golfers want more distance especially off the tee but for me I prefer forgiveness, this is why I dropped playing the driver out of my bag altogether, sure I lost distance, but my callaway 2 iron hits the fairways 90% of my tee shots my driver never did, sure I have lost upto 50 yards on my tee shots but I love punching my 2 iron down the middle of the fairway :)
I’ve played (along with every driver that’s hit the market) the Stealth 2 in 9° and the Stealth 2 Plus in 8°, & 10.5°. I can honestly say they hit like complete crap.
So you bought 4 drivers of the same type before you decided they are crap? Did you think a different loft head would make it different in some way 🤷♂️
Essentially.. long story. I’ve tried Paradym triple diamond 9° & 10.5°. Stealth2 Plus 8° & 10.5°. Standard Stealth2 9°. Paradym hit well and had low spin but had a slight fade for me. Stealth just doesn’t feel that good, never feels like you crush it, has a weird hollow feel, I guess it’s the carbon face, I don’t care for it, it also has a fade on it for me. l ended up sticking with my Rogue ST Max LS 10.5°, Ventus Blue 6S w/ VeloCore. No fade, usually very straight, or I can put a baby draw on it.
Your original Stealth wasn’t a Stealth HD so comparison not really relevant. Try comparing the Stealth HD to the Stealth 2 HD. I’d like to see if there is any noticeable difference please
The driver is not the problem, is all about the player. Just improve your swing, dont waste money. stealth 1 is an amazing Driver, works miracles in the correct hands
Nobody said there was an issue with the driver, it is about choosing a driver that utilises weighting to negate a ball flight, isn’t that what these models are designed for?
Nah. People need to either work on their swing or keep working with the driver they have. Some people switch drivers as often as they switch their underwear looking for something that will correct their poor and inconsistent form. Just saying. ... Think about this; If you have ever hit a good shot with your driver, then you hit a bad shot, it's probably not your driver.
Saw an interesting teaching video with Rick Sheils. His student was a big sliver with an original Rouge driver. He thought he’d try the Big Bertha that you’ve used before. It helped, but not much. Rick then spent 5-10 minutes of a lesson with the guy and put him back in the old Rouge. The guy started hammering it dead straight. One of Rick’s better videos.
Curious if you had the original stealth hd? That’s what I have and it was way easier to hit than the standard stealth. Also emailed taylormade and they sent me the extra weights to adjust as needed. I think it was 3 diff size weights. Now that I’ve improved my swing I def see the draw bias and I’m drawing everything which is the opposite of what I was doing and now potentially need a non bias driver. I will say the OG stealth goes far but mishits aren’t very forgiving
Andy, I have not seen you slice the ball on your drives like this video in a while. Something seems to have changed. Love the way you play the game, but this is something I haven't noticed in your driving...
I occasionally watch your videos,but often disappointed in your presentations on driver clubs,because you don't elaborate as to what shafts and shafts specs you demo.in each club.the club heads don't complete the driver,the shafts play a significant role.
go on youtube and watch all the videos and read the hundreds of comments of guys cracking the face on the Stealth or the face completely flying off the club head
Andy, I follow most of your ideas and thoughts about clubs like PXG and L.A.B putters. My friend has a XX10 like you tested last week and it’s changed his game massively. I had a Stealth, 4 PXG drivers, Paradigm, and BRNR mini driver. Two months ago I went to a club builder and said I don’t care what brand head or shaft fit me for whatever you think is best combination. I ended up with a TSR 3 fitted with a VA Composite Nemesys shaft. It’s the most counterbalanced shaft you can get. Wow!!!! My swing speed is only about 90mph but this is so good. I never had any interest in Titleist and doubted I’d be able to launch this club but the shaft is just magic. I got one for a TM and PXG but I’d recommend trying this combo for sure.
As a senior golfer tried a few drivers ,cobra Taylor made sim max and now use my Ping g425 don't think ill change it as it hits most fairways depending on the weather can't warrant the price of the new drivers tbh great blog info
I have the 2022 Stealth HD and love it. Loved it even more when I took the shaft from my M4 and put it in the Stealth hd. I have also recently switched to the Maxfli Straightfli golf balls. These actually work and will also help you keep that fade or draw from getting out of control.
My bag is still consisting of a Sim 2 Max D. I usually hit a draw or fade on will but the weighting has helped me control my ball a bit more. No exaggeration of my already draw, but help with the fade on not losing it so far right when I cut it. I think there's a lot of people out there that would benefit by trying the "draw" model. what I like about my Sim2 is that it still sits square and is not presenting closed
I have the Sim 2 Max as well I have hit the Stealth 1 and 2 and my numbers are better and more consistent with the Sim 2
AMEN! An in play ball is 100% better than a 2 mile out of play in the water ball. I just hit it yesterday and the stealth sucked big time. I consider myself a decent driver for 53yrs old-250ish or 275 on really warm days-but dang-I was all over the place with this driver and mostly hit the inside heal. It was damn near impossible to hit it correctly in the middle. I left the store shaking my head-went to the the driving range 1/4 mile away and hit my sim max d true and straight on first hit 243 yards. When something works-don't change it just for the sake of changing it.
I have Sim Max and TM M2. Love them. Will buy a regular SIM used next to set up a draw bias over the Sim Max which is good for fades, for me. M2 is a classic monster too, and I have an old Ti Bubble 2 as well. What sound/feel. Love it!
Totally agree. Anything that can make the game easier and doesn’t affect your swing is a great benefit to any golfer. That doesn’t mean we have to not continue to try and iron out any big swing defects just gives us more time, while enjoying our current game.
My God this man has some logic!! 😂 thanks for adding some sensible input to the comments 👍
Yeah right, unless you're a PGA pro or play golf for a living no need to keep the frustration trying to iron out your defects. Go out there play golf and drink beers.
Still using my original rogue… tried most of the last 2 years drivers - no distance increase. Maybe they were a bit more forgiving but I normally hit it pretty good and when I do occasionally miss it -I miss it by a mile and no tech is ever going to save me
My carbon wood face started peeling off the club head 6 months after buying. My friend just had the same thing happened to him. Im convinced there was a pretty serious QC issue with the original stealths. Time will tell for the stealth 2's
So you took it back for replacement or a full refund then?
@@BundyPoppy that's right. I had a new one within a week. Nothing bad to say about TM customer service. They treat the customer right. Just wouldn't be surprised if I'm doing it again in 6 months lol. Hopefully by then they'll be out of the old stock and will send me a stealth 2
I'm also a 9HC, but my miss is the same as yours. I really love the Ping SFT drivers!
I'm going to give the Stealth HD 10.5° (2022 version) a serious try, I just got one with a Fujikura Air Speeder 45-R, they say great things about it.
I’d say, keep both drivers and work on the swing. On the days where you slice too much, pull out the stealth 2 HD, and when you start to hit hooks with the stealth 2 use the stealth. I think working to neutralise face to path is ongoing work.😊
Hi Hope don’t mind just wanted post a quick comment on your pxgs - I know you tested 0317 and how pleasing and easy you found them, I was pleased to see them in your bag today … I too have an awesome fitting on the pxg gen5 0311, as you did, but later changed to 0317 because of a better and sweeter ball flight than my gen 5’s , but I lost distance. Recently I was given a Ping STEEL shaft black dot G430 to warm up for a driver fitting, and they just didn’t work for me, the PGA Pro swapped my ping G430 to graphite regular and BLUE DOT head …. WOW Andy, I was totally BLOWN away with them - even better ball flight with nice draw and DISTANCE, so easy, they utterly suited my swing… I gained 12+ yards on a 7 iron. BLUE DOT was so important … Although I really like the PXG package, made a decision to say goodbye PXG
Had to trade my Stealth due to dispersion issues. Moved over to G430 SFT and it has been so consistent. I think long term I had some concerns with the Carbon fiber face, maybe misplaced, but need to keep my clubs for a number of years.
Hope the G430 works well, great choice
Great info. I'm in the market for a new driver and irons and your videos help so much. Once my coach gets my swing as good as yours I'll get custom fitted.
Great to see you back in the comments Chad 👍
Go hit a TSR, you won’t go back to that TM! I got properly fit by Titleist into a new TSR, completely different from my old PXG, night and day improvement.
Which pxg did u have. I was thinking of getting one but ur swngspeed probably dwarfs mine
@@paulfordyce4393 I’m 61 and my swing speed is very average LOL. At least in my experience the fitting process at PXG and Titleist were completely different, the Titleist rep was far more experienced. The PXG fitting was very cookie cutter not a lot of thought, if your swing speed is x you get this shaft etc… The Titleist immediately picked up on the ball flight and high spin, got me into a stiffer lower trajectory shaft, my drive total distance went from 215-220 to 240.
I'd rather go with Paradigm. Better feel/sound than TSR which I love that driver. The older TSI had a better feel in most golfers assessments
Most low handicap golfers in my area are going Callaway over Titleist drivers. AZ.
Agreed. Despite all the other club hype tsr is the boss
Sure buddy😂
Late to this party, but I'm finding all kinds of stuff about the Stealth and Stealth 2 exploding or caving in, "from using shitty range balls" etc etc. I just purchased a Stealth 2+ on sale at Dicks to go with my 2nd hand Taylor made dominant set of clubs I just picked up. Is it really as fragile as some people are making it out to be?
Have you done a side by side with the PXG Gen 6 and the Stealth 2? Be curious to see a dedicated video between them dueling it out.
Filmed it on course, will be out next week
@@TheAverageGolfer Fantastic, can't wait!
Hey Andy, replace the 2 gram weight in the rear of the club head with a 14-17 gram weight as I did. Fixed everything for $10. Stealth 2 put a 24 gram weight in rear of club. Save $600
i ended up going with the STEALTH 2 HD Driver in 9 degree..... 3 and 5 wood STEALTH 2 HD and the 4 HYBRID HD......2 and 4 STEALTH DHY.....STEALTH irons 5 - AW........and i LOVE all of them...thx Taylormade .....cheers from Canada
I currently use the original stealth HD and I completely agree with this review, even if it's the previous generation - very powerful driver
I am reading of a few occasions where these driver faces are cracking, but it's not just TM, but also Callaway, and a few others. I guess there's always going to be a very small percentage where the specs get exceeded and things happen. But, I'm definitely looking for quality and durability. Thoughts?
I feel like I made a mistake by upgrading from SIM2 to Stealth. 😢
You mean changing
Great video curious what flex is in your Proforce HL? Thanks from Virginia
Ive just bought a brand new set of 2023 Stealth 2 HDs. They look ace in my bag and Im just off to start practicing with them.
Yup exactly the driver I was fitted into 3 weeks ago
My bad shots that used to be on the next fairway to the right are now just in the rough on the correct fairway with hardly any loss of distance
I am pretty confident it works, glad you have similar results
great video Andy....i currently have the PXG GEN 5 Driver 10.5 degree and also the SIM 2 MAX 10.5 degree.............. really like the Stealth 2 HD but i am trying to figure out whether to go with 9 or 10.5 degrees.....I am 58 so not getting any younger... swing has slowed down a little......what are your thoughts ? or anyone elses also....thx...cheers from Canada
have you had a chance to take the stealth2 plus and move the weight to a draw and compare that vs the HD?
The last thing I get with any stealth driver is consistency. Mine is all over the place. Im trying the Ping G430.
You only need to touch the stealth face and its groves to know that its basically a driving wedge. It grips the shyte out of the ball and I've re-purchased the m6 d-type a few days ago for this reason. Newer tech isn't always better is my biggest lesson. (8 hcp)
If that was true, the spin numbers would be ridiculous but they aren't. They are very low, which means it's not what you say
Whatever works! I recall you also hit that XXIO driver straight too it was incredible. So a few options for lookers👍
I only tried that last week and agree it was impressive and caught me out a a little by surprise. I have been testing the HD for a few months and at this stage went for what I know but....
If you like what it does for you, and how it looks and instills confidence… ✅
Have a super season Andy !
I saw a guy bring one into the local shop to trade in and it looked brand new.
Wondered why he was unhappy with it.
I dumped it too. The first thing is there is no feedback, it do not matter where you hit it on the face, you do not feel the impact, toe, heel, middle, impossible to tell the difference.
The second thing is when you do get a mishit, the ball just dies mid air and drops straight down, really weird ball flight, never had that before.
It is however really straight.
Had a driver
Lesson in the sim with my club pro and was hitting my own driver 250 ish, he handed me his own Stealth 2 with X stiff shaft and immediately hit over 270y, I need one but a bit pricey lol
In the first 2 minutes the issue u said u have with the stealth is more down to user error surely?
Yes, every golfer has the ability to upgrade to a new TM driver model every season, right? Got to keep those pros with a decent salary cause they don't get enough money!
It's that RED VENTUS shaft!!! Mine tends to do the same thing, BUT I bought a Taylormade SDLR with a Fujikura Speeder shaft, switched out the shafts and it made a world of difference!!! Keep the head, ditch the shaft!
It’s not a Ventus shaft
Eventually that slice will return like it happens with the first stealth.
I’m still loving my Titleist TSi2 11 deg with kuro kage shaft.
I played a Custom fitted TM R9 Supertri for 10 years. Moved to a G410, slightly counterbalanced setup and super forgiving. I like the turbulators, simple finish and does the job. See no need to buy into the rest of the marketing spin…..
I dumped stealth as well, had the stealth HD and dumped it for the Ping SFT... that was a couple months ago and should have done it sooner.
As long as you have found a winner then all is good right?
Your videos are very helpful because we have the same swing speed . Andy from another video of yours I have that shaft as a ProForce V2 5F3 High Launch 50gram Reg. Flex. Is that correct? Is the shaft at standard length or did you cut it back? Is that 9* head set at 9* or is it turned up to 10 or 11? In your other videos you were often at 10.5 and you had the standard Stealth 2 set at 11*.
So yes to the shaft but 1” shorter than std. playing the 9 head as it seems to launch higher which I feel is to do with the 30g weight in rear position
Thanks Andy. Great content! Keep'em coming!
Love my Stealth and also have the 9 degree. You are right, my Cobra was more forgiving, but nothing I have ever hit feels like that Stealth when you hit it square in the mouth. When the stars align, it is one sweet club.
Andy, would be interested to know the differences in carry / total numbers and actual dispersion between the two
I think a small sample of shots on a launch monitor would provide that data but the reality is I made my decision based on playing multiple rounds on the golf course
Andy . Be careful as Taylormade tip some of the driver shafts from standard and I think the UST shafts are one of them so whatever your flex is it could be one stiffer therefore making the fade worst. UST say you don’t tip there shafts for a driver for the standard flexes.
I would say it is stiffer and hence this is the reg shaft but as you say plays more like stiff 👍
@@TheAverageGolfer t th e wife’s a pro golfer using reg and used the same shaft UST Proforce high launch shaft and could never hit a draw which was her natural shape with Taylormade drivers from the Sim onwards only to find out there where all tipped. Didn’t have the same problem with the G410 or 430. So I don’t understand how Taylormade fit people in these shafts when there not the right flex.
I honestly thought it was going to be the PXG you were changing too. Whenever I saw you hit it on other videos you hit it dead straight and quite far. Shocked when you pulled the stealth 2 out.
Also with how good the PXG looks this year and the head covers alone are phenomenal just was so sure that'd be the one 😅
Don’t get me wrong it is a very close call and maybe just down to my relationship with stealth over the last 14 months
Fair enough Andy, I just felt you looked so comfortable with that PXG with how straight you hit it. And you said yourself it comes off the face so fast.
…the Taylormade HD2 ist 2 degree more upright (adjustable 58-62) compared to the Stealth (56-62) 😊
It's funny but i have just been fitted for a stealth2 HD also from my current b21 big Bertha. Went into the fitting thinking ping g430 was the 1 for me and also tried paradym x but nothing compared to the stealth hd
The fact it is TMs most forgiving driver is a little overlooked and not enough made of it by TM in my opinion
The price of a stealth 2 driver (£500) gets you lots of lessons that would teach you to swing the club on the correct path and control the club face better, thus helping hit every club better. Rather than paying £500 for ONE club to help reduce a swing fault path or club face or both... why pay £500 for ONE club that will help minimise a fault, when spending £500 on lessons with a Pro will help all swing paths and face control
I’ve been playing the game for 35 years Wayne, swing ain’t changing much and I’m having fun just the way it is 👍
@The Average Golfer been playing around the same, always room for improvement, even off 6 handicap. Do you remember faldo taking his swing to bits and even your buddy James Robinson changing his swing after lessons with Pete Cowen
Another great video Andy. I current use a TSi2 and have had a shot of TSR2 🎉which I quite liked.
I have a TaylorMade fitting on Monday 01/05 and I am hoping that the Stealth 2 HD model could be the one for me for pretty much exactly the same reasons as you detailed on the video (I tried original Stealth but could not get on with it).
I had a Ping fitting last week and I have a fitting at the Titleist Centre at Craigielaw in just over a week. I suspect I will end up being fitted for TSR2.
However, if I’m buying with my heart I really want to go with Stealth 2 as I really like the look of it and as an initial guess I would suspect the HD model might be best suited to me. But I guess if there’s not much to choose between 3 great drivers the choice of what to buy might be a tough one.
You are right, not a lot to split them and the fact you are trying several types is important, good luck
@@TheAverageGolfer I think I will need it.
Please keep us updated on how your fitting goes 👍😁
Happy hitting 🏌♂️
If Nelly Korda is prepared to put the Stealth HD in her bag, rather than reengineer /adjust her swing, then I think it validates your thinking and final decision.
Average golfer , what happened to all your PXG stuff . LOL ,, do a what's in the bag , like to know, so sounds like either who gives you the best deal or free stuff is who your going to say is the best , just wondering if you still do complete driver tests of all brands . this seems to be more of an info commercial . IMO of course
Well done Andy. I thought for a second you might’ve been tempted by the G430 / V2 combo like me 😂
Oh I am tempted by a few options this year Davy!
Andy have you changed to a reg shaft now - if so did that make any difference ?
I have played that same shaft since the Jan 22
I'm still using my Ping G driver, at least seven years in action. I'd love to update but AUD1,000 to get into a current model is just not realistic. Investment in lessons is both cheaper and more beneficial in the long term. Ping misses out but my club pro wins.
It's all about what works for each person. I have the Stealth 2 and freaking love it. It's a bomber of a driver. Forgiving and long.
Absolutely 👍
Well done Andy looks a good choice for you from previous vids on the HD
Yes continued to play it for a few months and happy it is a good move
If it works for you, then it was the right change. I tend towards a slight draw with my Stealth 1 so probably not a change I need to make. For most of us spending £500+ on a new driver is money which would be better spent on a package of lessons.
As for shafts, when you find one that works I agree it makes such a difference, it is so confidence inspiring
So right about the shaft....game changer for me
@@TheAverageGolfer That V2 shaft is made to get the ball in the air. So you wouldnt need to hit up the ball much? The reg V2 shaft at 58g would have a low torq. 3.2? It would be straighter.. maybe?
Brought one 2 weeks ago got fitted for it very impressed.
Glad it is working
So you've just got the newer version of the same club 🤣 proper mid handicapcub golfer. I like it.
The problem isn’t the driver, it’s your swing is like mine and 99% of most amateurs, it’s not that great and it’s inconsistent. You take it way inside on the takeaway and come over the top on the downswing. You can’t buy a game. I’m in my mid 50’s, an 8 handicap, and have both the standard stealth (not 2) and the PING G425, when I put a good swing on either they both work well, conversely, when I struggle with my driver swing I hit the G425 worse than I hit the Stealth. At the end of the day, you own your swing and that is the biggest factor in making a the ball fly straighter.
Great video and love the new stealth 2 HD woods. Best looking and works in my humble opinion.
The whole HD line up is a real winner
I strongly believe most of us non pro golfers want more distance especially off the tee but for me I prefer forgiveness, this is why I dropped playing the driver out of my bag altogether, sure I lost distance, but my callaway 2 iron hits the fairways 90% of my tee shots my driver never did, sure I have lost upto 50 yards on my tee shots but I love punching my 2 iron down the middle of the fairway :)
I’ve played (along with every driver that’s hit the market) the Stealth 2 in 9° and the Stealth 2 Plus in 8°, & 10.5°. I can honestly say they hit like complete crap.
So you bought 4 drivers of the same type before you decided they are crap? Did you think a different loft head would make it different in some way 🤷♂️
Essentially.. long story. I’ve tried Paradym triple diamond 9° & 10.5°. Stealth2 Plus 8° & 10.5°. Standard Stealth2 9°. Paradym hit well and had low spin but had a slight fade for me. Stealth just doesn’t feel that good, never feels like you crush it, has a weird hollow feel, I guess it’s the carbon face, I don’t care for it, it also has a fade on it for me. l ended up sticking with my Rogue ST Max LS 10.5°, Ventus Blue 6S w/ VeloCore. No fade, usually very straight, or I can put a baby draw on it.
I would like to see you put it up against the srixon zx5. You hit that on auto pilot
When you start hitting the ball 160 mph and more is when the face starts cracking…..i have nothing to worry about lol
Your original Stealth wasn’t a Stealth HD so comparison not really relevant. Try comparing the Stealth HD to the Stealth 2 HD. I’d like to see if there is any noticeable difference please
Enjoy the new toy. That’s good thing in Golf , there is always something new we all want. 😊😊😂
Mizuno ST-230
Cobra Aero Jet
Titleist TSr 3
Hoped you might go for something a bit more more exotic... Then I realised, you're probably still paying off the shaft!
I upgraded to the Stealth 2 +, because I broke my Stealth +. I did get a bald spot, but the face popped on the upper toe side.
Send it back to Taylor, they will replace it.
love the malbon mate
Andy you got me. I was wondering what non red club you would go for😂.
The red face stays 🤣
Have you tried a draw-bias driver?
Love my stealth 2 plus driver!!
The driver is not the problem, is all about the player. Just improve your swing, dont waste money.
stealth 1 is an amazing Driver, works miracles in the correct hands
Nobody said there was an issue with the driver, it is about choosing a driver that utilises weighting to negate a ball flight, isn’t that what these models are designed for?
Looks the best club on the market, 👏🏼
Rogue st max sounds and feels miles better, didn’t like the red face and the Stealth 2 looks shiny and cheap
Nah. People need to either work on their swing or keep working with the driver they have. Some people switch drivers as often as they switch their underwear looking for something that will correct their poor and inconsistent form. Just saying. ... Think about this; If you have ever hit a good shot with your driver, then you hit a bad shot, it's probably not your driver.
Saw an interesting teaching video with Rick Sheils. His student was a big sliver with an original Rouge driver. He thought he’d try the Big Bertha that you’ve used before. It helped, but not much. Rick then spent 5-10 minutes of a lesson with the guy and put him back in the old Rouge. The guy started hammering it dead straight. One of Rick’s better videos.
I whud love the stealth 2 hd driver
and the hd irons
Curious if you had the original stealth hd? That’s what I have and it was way easier to hit than the standard stealth. Also emailed taylormade and they sent me the extra weights to adjust as needed. I think it was 3 diff size weights. Now that I’ve improved my swing I def see the draw bias and I’m drawing everything which is the opposite of what I was doing and now potentially need a non bias driver. I will say the OG stealth goes far but mishits aren’t very forgiving
TSR is in a different league to Stealth, go try it you will buy it.
like an infomercial for taylormade stealth 2, how can ya trust anything this fella says
How is this an infomercial John?
U can keep your stealths!
I will
The Taylormade SIM 2 Max is the best driver ever made!!!!
Misleading Title. This is a Stealth 2 commercial. "dumped stealth for stealth 2"
The HD looks the better club.
I agree much improved
See loads of Taylormade Stealth on the market place.
🤣 I see loads of every club on the market place, we are a nation of golfers who change clubs……frequently
Andy, I have not seen you slice the ball on your drives like this video in a while. Something seems to have changed. Love the way you play the game, but this is something I haven't noticed in your driving...
Really? I have always hit a fade with my driver
@@TheAverageGolfer yep. Love your fade, but this seems to be sliding a lot more from left to right.
@@Grunt21Tennessee Will take a look, I felt like a drove the ball pretty solid in the video, I blame shot tracer 🤣
Your driver’s sweet spot is in perfect condition.
Not something you need worry about Steve 👍 keep on watching sunshine
Don't mess around, I know you have to for vlogs, but buy a proper club, titleist TSi
I have the sim max D original 1st edition. I tried this new stealth yesterday and holy macks.... It sucked! Don't buy it!
If it's good enough for Nelly korda champ it's good enough for you
Agreed....if only I could swing it like Nelly!
Massive weight in the back 30grammes😱
I think more weight than any other on the market
Great video
Thanks
I’m a Cobra 🐍 man, great performance, value & quality per $$
I like my Cobra LTDX
best driver I ever hit, longest and straighest
That’s interesting
I occasionally watch your videos,but often disappointed in your presentations on driver clubs,because you don't elaborate as to what shafts and shafts specs you demo.in each club.the club heads don't complete the driver,the shafts play a significant role.
Can you drive it like Nelly Korda ?
She can really smash it !
I wish!
Malbon
maybe get a lesson to understand why you're fading it. not the clubs fault.
Nobody blamed the club.....and fully aware as to the why David but thanks for your input 👍🏻
Taylormade is the G>O>A>T>.
You think so?
Over hyped clubs
go on youtube and watch all the videos and read the hundreds of comments of guys cracking the face on the Stealth or the face completely flying off the club head
@@ericfletcher2887 not forgetting that there own staff took them from there bag , McIlroy and morikawa
Andy, I follow most of your ideas and thoughts about clubs like PXG and L.A.B putters. My friend has a XX10 like you tested last week and it’s changed his game massively. I had a Stealth, 4 PXG drivers, Paradigm, and BRNR mini driver. Two months ago I went to a club builder and said I don’t care what brand head or shaft fit me for whatever you think is best combination. I ended up with a TSR 3 fitted with a VA Composite Nemesys shaft. It’s the most counterbalanced shaft you can get. Wow!!!! My swing speed is only about 90mph but this is so good. I never had any interest in Titleist and doubted I’d be able to launch this club but the shaft is just magic. I got one for a TM and PXG but I’d recommend trying this combo for sure.