I would agree. I think the long term plan for TFD is for it to become a looter shooter version of Black Desert Online. The end game is just about grinding mobs for little stuff. I still think it has a better core than Warframe does so we shall see where it goes.
I agree. However, I've raised Jayber long before they announced his buffs, so we're gonna be eating good. Wait your turn on Kyle and Esiemo. That being said, I really wish they'd look more into Transcendent mods because a lot of them are reaaaaally bad and we don't have enough build diversity because of it. Granted, they've touched upon Jayber's and Blair's, but I wish they'd do it a lot more often.
Yup im there with you. I mained kyle, 15 catalyst later, maxed out secret garden and im at the point where im realizing its simply not going to match up to other characters and weapons. 15 catalysts because i originally built him for CD and skill power and now its a tank build that relies on a sub par gun. Currently building enduring legacy. Note this is specific to void bosses; regular pve is too easy.
I had a vision for kyle, be so tanky and have a second hp bar so that you can empty all of your ammo without worry. This actually works well but... body enhancement ajax does it better and is able to slot shot focus and walk a tightrope with annihilation components for an added 70% firearm attack
The poor balance is really frustrating since I mainly use Yujin. The upper echelon Descendants and weapons makes Yujin useless in many situations, as you don’t need his buffs and healing. Besides Enzo, support is useless since Colossi are little more than damage checks, while other content could be mindlessly cleared by running Bunny players. Nexon needs to make harder content and rework/buff weapon types and Descendants. Beam Rifles, Handguns, Launchers, and Shotguns are still largely dead weapon types.
As an esiemo main. I was sad to see no buffs, rework, or fix. Explosive propaganda is still bugged with zero mention of a fix. I would like for propaganda to be his 2 and for his 1 and 3 to explode on contact. I think this would make him viable
I think these weapons should not have been buffed at all. Think about it, the game is new and weapons already have 50% base crit chance and stuff. What are the new weapons going to need to have for you to use them? 65% base crit chance? Balance is a reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal issue like you said
well. we are actually playing a "PRE" season Demo of a game. first mistake people make is: using resources/wasting time on NON-ULTIMATE characters. second mistake, people believing that making "gimmic/meta" builds from random youtubers is the correct way to go when there is no content at this time to use the descendants on. third mistake thinking that there is a "endgame" when there is not at this time. the game is meant to be played as a pass time not as a hardcore game. you will run out of stuff to do and then you will complain that the game has nothing to offer (typical gamer). FATAL mistake: thinking that the game is "Balanced" when its not at all.. maybe by Decembers update we might see some balance. im pretty sure that season 1 solo dungeons will show every "hardcore" to "casual" player how their descendants/ weapons are supposed to be built. its called critical thinking not follow the youtuber lmao.
It's not just them, the whole line up is out of balance. Outside of a Colossi battle, Sharen and Bunny are the only two characters you need. Colossi have quickly become 3 Lepic and whatever else or 2 Lepic, Gley, and either Bunny or Enzo. The game was never meant to be balanced. It's a casino. After having min maxed several characters and several weapons, I realized that all we ever do is level up and work towards another pull at the slot machine. People are starting to wake up to this and leaving in droves because there is really nothing to do in this game. If you've done it once, you've done it a thousand times, if not more. It's a new Korean Gatcha style of game.
Kyle isn't meant for intercept bosses so don't feel bad abt his skill dmg not doing much. However as a mobber he's the fastest dungeon speedrunner in the game besides a few lvls like Unknown Laboratory that have tight spaces restricting his movement tech. You play him as a skill spammer not shooting guns (unless you want to for quick 1sec bursts in between aoe procs for a bit more dmg) as his AoE 1 shots all trash mobs, and his ult 1 shots all dungeon bosses/ elites or you can always just knock elites/tanky enemies off the map in most cases. Bunny is super casual and brainless playstyle where as Kyle if you learn all his intricate techniques and proper dungeon routes he becomes an insane beast and imo the most fun/ interactive char in the entire game. i realize im in a very small % of ppl who mainly play these type of games to speedrun dungeon/raid content but i'm just glad there's a character in tfd that actually has a high skill/knowledge ceiling and is rewarding to play instead of just mindlessly running through areas to get sub-par times cough* bunny meta
If you are looking to play who you have fun playing, then it isn’t an issue. If you are looking to make the strongest characters possible, then you can’t expect every character to be meta and S tier. Sorry the characters you built out are not good right now… you can literally play 19 other ones other than Kyle or Esiemo.
honestly many more reasons than what i said for example 1 transcendant mod being much better that the others etc
I would agree. I think the long term plan for TFD is for it to become a looter shooter version of Black Desert Online. The end game is just about grinding mobs for little stuff. I still think it has a better core than Warframe does so we shall see where it goes.
I agree. However, I've raised Jayber long before they announced his buffs, so we're gonna be eating good. Wait your turn on Kyle and Esiemo.
That being said, I really wish they'd look more into Transcendent mods because a lot of them are reaaaaally bad and we don't have enough build diversity because of it. Granted, they've touched upon Jayber's and Blair's, but I wish they'd do it a lot more often.
Yup im there with you. I mained kyle, 15 catalyst later, maxed out secret garden and im at the point where im realizing its simply not going to match up to other characters and weapons. 15 catalysts because i originally built him for CD and skill power and now its a tank build that relies on a sub par gun. Currently building enduring legacy.
Note this is specific to void bosses; regular pve is too easy.
I had a vision for kyle, be so tanky and have a second hp bar so that you can empty all of your ammo without worry. This actually works well but... body enhancement ajax does it better and is able to slot shot focus and walk a tightrope with annihilation components for an added 70% firearm attack
The poor balance is really frustrating since I mainly use Yujin. The upper echelon Descendants and weapons makes Yujin useless in many situations, as you don’t need his buffs and healing. Besides Enzo, support is useless since Colossi are little more than damage checks, while other content could be mindlessly cleared by running Bunny players.
Nexon needs to make harder content and rework/buff weapon types and Descendants. Beam Rifles, Handguns, Launchers, and Shotguns are still largely dead weapon types.
I mean what else is there to do in this game but build characters and guns? lol
Good thing the update is tomorrow, I suggest you dont rush through so you dont feel this way again. Content isn't going anywhere.
As an esiemo main. I was sad to see no buffs, rework, or fix. Explosive propaganda is still bugged with zero mention of a fix. I would like for propaganda to be his 2 and for his 1 and 3 to explode on contact. I think this would make him viable
I think these weapons should not have been buffed at all.
Think about it, the game is new and weapons already have 50% base crit chance and stuff.
What are the new weapons going to need to have for you to use them? 65% base crit chance?
Balance is a reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal issue like you said
well. we are actually playing a "PRE" season Demo of a game. first mistake people make is: using resources/wasting time on NON-ULTIMATE characters. second mistake, people believing that making "gimmic/meta" builds from random youtubers is the correct way to go when there is no content at this time to use the descendants on. third mistake thinking that there is a "endgame" when there is not at this time. the game is meant to be played as a pass time not as a hardcore game. you will run out of stuff to do and then you will complain that the game has nothing to offer (typical gamer). FATAL mistake: thinking that the game is "Balanced" when its not at all.. maybe by Decembers update we might see some balance. im pretty sure that season 1 solo dungeons will show every "hardcore" to "casual" player how their descendants/ weapons are supposed to be built. its called critical thinking not follow the youtuber lmao.
It's not just them, the whole line up is out of balance. Outside of a Colossi battle, Sharen and Bunny are the only two characters you need. Colossi have quickly become 3 Lepic and whatever else or 2 Lepic, Gley, and either Bunny or Enzo.
The game was never meant to be balanced. It's a casino. After having min maxed several characters and several weapons, I realized that all we ever do is level up and work towards another pull at the slot machine.
People are starting to wake up to this and leaving in droves because there is really nothing to do in this game. If you've done it once, you've done it a thousand times, if not more. It's a new Korean Gatcha style of game.
Kyle isn't meant for intercept bosses so don't feel bad abt his skill dmg not doing much. However as a mobber he's the fastest dungeon speedrunner in the game besides a few lvls like Unknown Laboratory that have tight spaces restricting his movement tech. You play him as a skill spammer not shooting guns (unless you want to for quick 1sec bursts in between aoe procs for a bit more dmg) as his AoE 1 shots all trash mobs, and his ult 1 shots all dungeon bosses/ elites or you can always just knock elites/tanky enemies off the map in most cases. Bunny is super casual and brainless playstyle where as Kyle if you learn all his intricate techniques and proper dungeon routes he becomes an insane beast and imo the most fun/ interactive char in the entire game. i realize im in a very small % of ppl who mainly play these type of games to speedrun dungeon/raid content but i'm just glad there's a character in tfd that actually has a high skill/knowledge ceiling and is rewarding to play instead of just mindlessly running through areas to get sub-par times cough* bunny meta
If you are looking to play who you have fun playing, then it isn’t an issue. If you are looking to make the strongest characters possible, then you can’t expect every character to be meta and S tier. Sorry the characters you built out are not good right now… you can literally play 19 other ones other than Kyle or Esiemo.