Will Lee & Pete Like these Shred Guitars? - Schecter Nick Johnston & Sun Valley Super Shredder!
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Don't let the Schecter Nick Johnston Traditional fool you! It may look like a classic s-type guitar but it has incredibly modern features that are very well suited for virtuosic playing! On the other hand we have the Schecter Sun Valley Super Shredder, and as the name suggests, this electric guitar is built for lightning fast, high octane shredding!
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» 0:00 Intro Jam
» 1:30 Let's Take a Look at the Schecter Nick Johnston
» 4:05 Specs & Features
» 6:48 What do they Sound Like?
» 7:40 Initial Impressions?
» 10:21 A Quick Look at the HSS/Thoughts on the Schecter Nick Johnston
» 16:25 Moving On to the Schecter Sun Valley Super Shredder!
» 16:42 Quick Jam on the Sun Valley Super Shredder
» 17:47 Specs, Features & Tones
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I went to check out the Silver Sky and came home with the Nick Johnston HSS and every time I pick up that guitar, it fills me with joy. The roasted maple neck, smooth neck joint and removal of the third tone knob make it my "Strat" of choice.
The Nick Johnston signature really plays like something twice the price.
@@jonathankvex There's a reason for that. According to the retailers, Schecter is selling these at a bargain to get into this space. They've done so well in metal but felt like they were lagging in the Strat department. So basically we're getting a 900-1000 dollar guitar for 750. In the HSS, the only thing that doesn't feel premium is the humbucker. I think about changing it, but it does 80s rock/metal really well. It's not "bad" but I have Fishmanns and Bare Knuckles on my other guitars. Might trade it out for a p90 at some point. Still unsure.
I like mine better than my friend's american pro ii :DD
@@rooberry-music I think with all of these "S-types," it is about preference. They all sound good and they all sound like strats. For me, the build and feel of the Nick Schecter is FAR more preferable to a Fender American or Silver Sky(and I'm a huge PRS fan.) But I'm a metal player, so the NJ HSS feels like the perfect strat for a non-purist used to faster guitars.
@@NelsonBlakeII I'm a funk/soul player and to me the neck is just thick enough for thumb round chords, and the action gets lower than any strat I've set up. goes to show what a good instrument it is, we're completely different guitarists and it suits us both.
Schecter make such good guitars, even the lower priced ones. I've been absolutely thrilled with my C6 Pro.
I've got a PT Fastback II B and its absolutely gorgeous.
@Grumpyrocker…agreed! Schecter makes the best bang for the buck guitars imho.
I have the same guitar for over a year now, and love the look, feel and sound.
Excellent demonstration on these especially the shredder guitars! Thanks so much Lee & Pete. Nice to see you having so much fun on your demos!
I own a Eric Johnson and an American Pro Strat. I bought a Nick Johnston Schecter about a year ago after playing one. They are fantastic guitars at any price. Feels like a well made professional instrument. Fit and finish is absolutely perfect. I don't normally play flat radius necks but this one feels very comfortable. The pickups are amazing if you like a hot single coil. You can not get a better strat style guitar for the money.
Schecter make spectacularly good guitars. I have a pair of them and love them to bits. They punch well above their price point and are just epic fun to play.
My first schecter arrived yesterday and i am very pleased with it
@@krisvind1715 I hope it brings you many, many years of musical happiness 🙂
@zackpack8I find them unplayable because the nut is too small. All the high value copycat brands like Schecter, LTD, Ibanez use those tiny 1.65 nuts. And Fender, Gibson, PRS use around 1.6875. So I have to go with Charvel which uses modern Fender style 1.6875. Its too hard to hybrid pick with that tight 1.65 string spacing.
I own 4 Schecters now and never had any intention of buying just one lol. They absolutely are one of only a few builders who actually do play, feel and sound way above their price point! Definitely very underrated in my book! Until you play one!
I got the Schecter Sun Valley Super Shredder in Red Reign a few months back. I absolutely love it. I work at a Guitar Center, and as soon as we unboxed it, I fell in love with it. Took it home that same day. It has everything you’d want out of a super start. Floyd rose, 24 frets, active pickups, a Sustainiac, and an awesome finish!
I'm surprised how many people don't mention how great these necks feel! The Red Reign just explodes in color when you see it in person too, great choice!
Got the NJ diamond on a bargain second hand deal and it's brilliant! In many ways it's very like a modern SRV Sig in terms of sound, which makes sense because Nick was inspired by him! I have it in e flat and it rocks
I purchased the Nick Johnston hss version and don't regret it. It's a great guitar and the pickups are versatile. You can play everything on this guitar. The only thing I upgraded were the saddles to Graphtech ones, just for the string breakage issue related to strat bridges. I only can say good things about this Schecter. Highly recommended! Great review guys! Keep on rocking 🤘🔥
I’ve had my Schecter PT II B and loving it. Anderton’s videos on it is literally why I bought it.
I really like the green paint on Lee's. The lights in the room give the paint a lot of depth. Not a shredder but at that price point... definitely worth looking into learning on these.
I love the bowling ball finishes on those schecters. Kind of reminds me of late 90's early 2000's jackson finishes.
I am definitely a Nick Johnston fan now and I got the Atomic Green SSS. I discovered him from his Periphery and Polyphia features of course, as most Dj0nt kids probably did as well. I ended up following on the IG at the time, but I wasn't really listening to his solo works. I know he was a Fender player, but later on Keith Merrow hooked him with to Schecter. I was indifferent with his old grey Traditional model, but everything changed when Schecter came out with the Atomic Green and Atomic Coral! I have always wanted a Seafoam Green S type guitar, and spec wise his guitar is just perfect! I saved up for the Atomic Green and also decided to get into his music. Remarkably Human is such an inspirational album! This guitar almost ruined the experience of playing with regular maple neck!
Now I have other priorities in life, but I really want the Atomic Coral in HSS configuration! I live in Indonesia and it's ironically not easy to find these guitars, especially the pink ones! Most stores are out of stock (I even had to preorder mine and it was slightly above the regular Indo price, but still cheaper than what they sell in the US or UK).
I love the Sun Valley guitars. It's got all the options I want and I'm not a shredder. Just think of what you can do with the sustainiac, the Floyd Rose and the 14" fretboard radius. I love it!
The Nick Johnston Traditional is a great guitar. I didn't know who Nick was and I picked one up after I wanted to get a Strat again. I almost bought one several times since then. It and the Kiesel Delos are my Strat killers
Monster shredding tone. Great playing again
Schecter got to be making some of the best bang for your buck guitars out there.
LTD is the only other one that comes to mind where it always feels like you're getting a much nicer guitar than the $$ would indicate
@@mattwilliamsonguitar yamaha and prs!
@@TheVaxMerstappen haven't tried much of either, but always hear good things
The highest end South Korean Schecters when compared against a Gibson or Fender at twice the price, will blow them away. The quality of my DJ Ashba signature is ridiculous. Wood, equipment, attention to detail. All of it.
@@davesegal2631 yep agree. The south Korean is especially good. Hoping to get a Banshee Mach 6 soon
I love the flat boards, I remember the first time I played a Holcomb SE, it took a second to get used to but it was wildly flat feeling
I’ve had a couple of the nick Johnston trads and they are incredible
What would this channel be without Danish Pete talking over the Captain with torrential dad jokes? That's not a world I'd ever want to live in. 👍❤️
Sounds like Lee needs to do a 'learn to shred' challenge. This could be an idea for a series which could end up being a way to promote various pieces of gear aimed at the more shred heavy music styles.
I've been playing an Ibanez RG Prestige with Strat Vintage Noiseless pickups in it for years. I had no idea anyone made a retail guitar like Nick Johnston signature. Going to have to check it out.
Just purchased the Green Reign used from Reverb a week ago at a steal of a price! Unfortunately, one of the washers and nuts was missing from the Sustaniac selector switch and I thought it would be a nightmare to match up such a small size! Contacted Schecter Customer Service and Jake of Schecter had replacements in my mailbox in less than a week!
THAT IS CUSTOMER SERVICE for an already great guitar!!!!!
I have a master build one off HSS is Fiesta Red with a matching head stock and one Custom Shop atomic white coming. The are thousands less than a fender custom shop and sound absolutely incredible. I also bought a Nick Johnston PT custom shop and it is such a rocking guitar..... truly pleased.
I got the seafoam green t style sun valley last year and I love it!
Waiting for the Aaron Marshall sig, looks so nice!
Love the truss rod position. So so easy to use.
I have two Schecter guitars in my collection and both are outstanding from a price/quality standpoint. One being a Hellraiser Hybrid with a Floyd and the other is a Tempest Custom. Compare them to any other guitar in the same price range and you will be blown away by how much more you get with a Schecter.
I’ve had a Super Shredder for around 4 months now, with the Sustainiac. Absolutely love it! I added a kill switch for extra weirdness!
Berried Alive fan eh :D
@@martyshwaartz971 who?!
This look great and are sure priced right. Thanks for the jams. :-)
Finally the nick johnston traditional! Been waiting for this one
The Captain going to town with his lead work!!!
Love the nick Johnstone sig, my fave has got to be the original with the black head stock, looks beautiful
Just got a Schecter PT Special, as I was in the market for a Tele, and have no regrets buying the Schecter!
I like the riveria blue old one but I like the pickup selectors on these. I almost bought a sun valley super shredder a few times and I'm a eventually getting me one 🙃
The intro jam gave me Satriani vibes and I love it!
Schecter make some great instruments.
What chorus effect were you using in this video Lee? Sounds 80s-tastic
Hohner ST Special!!!! Now THAT'S a shout there Pete!!!! I had several of those back in the 80's!!!
Those are Definitely Rockin Guitars 👍👍🎶🎶🎸You Guys Make em Sound Great.
Such a wonderful guitar! There are some complaints out there of dodgy pots and maybe a couple other tiny things, but that's and why you do everything you can to *try* the guitar you're going to buy ahead of time, or get it from someplace like Sweetwater and have a good relationship with your advisor (at least here in the states). One thing I love about this signature model is that, while it's clearly the "lower level" model, Nick shows up with it all over the place. I wish I had the cash to get the dearest one (as Lee would say), but this is easily the best "lower line" signature model I've ever played and with a little effort you shouldn't be disappointed. I had the Atomic White one before the "pandemic" forced me to sell almost everything. Hoping to get a new one soon.
Ooh an electric Monday! ⚡️ Thanks for the demo boys! Appreciate your excitement about kit.
Correction:
The mix setting on the sustainiac blends the harmonic and natural note but when you hold it the note disappears and the harmonic rings out indefinitely. The other harmonic setting is an octave HIGHER (which we can hear.) Schecter refers to this as a feedback setting. It’s much higher and can be used to simulate a high harmonic or artificial feedback.
With the right timing these settings can be used even subtly to create smooth results.
A good example of the sustainiac can be heard from Phil Collen. He’s used them exclusively on his signature Jacksons for many years.
The NJ will be my next guitar. Been on the hunt for a workhorse, played a heap in that price range and the NJ felt so good in the hand that it blew away everything else.
That radius is nice. If it had a carved heel, I would've bought it over my Am Pro
Nick Johnston's T style Schecter is called the PT NJ... so it's a Schecter Pete Townshend Nick Johnston!
I'm REALLY wanting one of those Sun Valleys. 😍🥰. Not sure why the green one has a maple fretboard and the blue and red ones both have rosewood, but I'm gonna get one soon.
Pretty sure the dark ones are ebony and not rosewood
First guitar brand who put sustainiac on their model was Fernandes, great guitars.
Those fernandes pickups sustain for ever
The second coil on the sustainiac is just a dummy cover to fill the humbucker cavity, the sustainiac driver acts as a pickup when the sustainiac is turned off and can be set on the circuit board to sound more single coil like or more humbucker like as well as having an output adjustment control, just depends how it's set from the factory. Also the middle position on the switch doesn't blend normal and harmonic, harmonic mode is the really high harmonics and mix mode is a mix of fundamental and soft harmonics depending on the string and position on the fretboard
Thank you for this. Is it possible to replace the second coil with a decent single coil pickup?
@@stevieboy444 I'm not sure how easy it is to remove the dummy cover but you'd also have to deal with a humbucker sized baseplate in the way as well. When I had a Sustainer fitted to my guitar I got the single coil version and had the builder fit a SD Hot Rails next to it for my position 5. Depending on what sound you want the Sustainiac might be good enough for you. Going forward I stopped doing the Hot Rails and just went for the normal Sustainiac sound as it's aimed to sound like a 59 PAF, and while it doesn't quite get there, it's close enough for me once you play around with the controls on the circuit board
@@KandyMan90 Thank you. I use 4 & 5 more than most people but at this price point, given the spec, I think it's worth a shot. As you say, I may find the sustaniac fine, if not I'll experiment but I won't bank on an easy fix. Many thanks :-))
@@stevieboy444 No worries. If you have a 24 contact super switch you can have the sustainiac change between a humbucker and single coil style sound by grounding a wire on position 5. It won't give a proper quack like 2 normal single coils in position 4 but it might get you somewhere close
@@KandyMan90 Thanks mate!
I need to get in on this roasted maple neck thing. . .
Funny how Lee immediately said the Johnston HSS humbucker didn't sound like a single coil, but a split humbucker. I was making faces about how good the split sounded...
Also, I have an old Fernandes with a sustainiac style neck pickup. It's a funny little system, and you can do a lot of interesting noises that sound like harmonic feedback.
I like the trust rod adjust look on the kramer 84 , it's at the bottom of the neck like a charvel bit it's more traditional looking like how the ones at the headstock looked.
I played a few of the Nick Johnston guitars and though I am not a big fan of the 14in radius my biggest problem was the weight. All of the ones I played were over 8lbs and one was even 9lbs which is way too heavy for an S style guitar. They did sound good though.
Totally underrated guitars are Schecters, I've got a PT Fastback and a Corsair and both are super playable and hard to put down, I like them that much I cashed in a Fender which just wasn't getting played anymore. I must admit I agree with Mid-range guitars and certainly the likes of Schecter and a Gretsch I've bought in the last year for the price it's hard to see how you'd justify spending over 1k unless you really we're more professional. Or for the 4k gibson or fender buy 4 guitars.....now that's what I call a deal
I swear that's about the best tone I've ever heard the captain dial in I do believe
Some lovely tones in that guitar... I confess I've never listened to Nick, life is now too short to hear everyone.
It even LOOKS right... there's a much more expensive one as well so I understand, I haven't tried it.
What's interesting is that I pulled out of the heap over the weekend a bespoke guitar built by Zion's Ken Hoover in 1989 (though the design by Ken is older than that). Amazingly it has very similar spec to the the latest in "super" strats. Flat 16" board in Ebony, Sperzal (sic) locking tuners, Three Joe Barden hb's in strat covers, an improved Fender type trem.
The body is definitely "dinky" with (what is now normal but not back then) cutaway neck joint. Er, I plugged it in and it was still in tune, actually minus 5% on each string. Sounds great.
It's 33 years old furchrissake!
Talk to you later.. Pete.
The NJ schecter gutiars are incredible. I have one of the pink made in indonesia models and it gets just as much play time as my main Fender MIA Strat.
Schecter just released the Nick Johnston PT, so I guess we can look forwards to a review of that T-style soon!
The Schecter Nick Johnston is the best guitar out there by far for under a grand in my opinion!! ✌️
Prices are going up or have gone up quite a bit. I ordered a hardtail Hellraiser and an Apocslypse Blue Reign this morning. They have been on back order since before the increase so I got them at the old price. Still a 6 to 8 week wait. I saved almost a grand CAD on the two guitars getting them at the old price.
this makes me excited to get my lefty schecter nick johnston HSS delivered,after watching this video i’m glad i chose the schecter over a kiesel delos,the schecter was $1025 after tax the kiesel was $1450 both guitars 🎸 with almost the exact same specs only difference is the kiesel has 2 more frets but the schecter has a coil split the kiesel doesn’t,so no brainer for me,schecter is killing it 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🎸🎶
My first guitar was a 14" radius so I've always liked the middle ground of not too round not too flat 20" is like a wall and felt weird when I tried one. I've owned a starcaster for years with a 10" radius and I'd say that's as round as I can tolerate, but bending is annoying play on it for me. I'd love to try a 7 string guitar with a 12"-16" that way you get all the goodness of round and flatness where you need it.
Nick's signature is popular because of the cool colors and the 2 knobs instead of like the 3rd strat knob that gets in the way of some players.
this vid tops it all! two able players at lost with brannew strats...!!! UTMOST HILARITY! makes me wanna checout the Tele 6,5 and one of my past ESP 16?!!! now there would be a le differanger!!
hoping we get a sound like for Nick Johnson this year if they do bring back sound like, it's been a complete year with no sound like
My NJ HSS JUST GOT HERE!
I got two super shredders and for the money they are awesome
Yo that guitar sounds HUGE
Gotta love the super shredder as a first Floyd Rose guitar
They should do vid Bradley Hall learning Sweep Picking just like with Ola Englund
The Schecter PT Special (their tele equivilent) look like great guitars for the money, problem is they are so good lookin you can never find them in stock anywhere lol.
Im surprised they come with a whammy since Nick seems to prefer pulling the back of the bridge!
That first part could almost be on a steely Dan album
Pure awesomeness.... your site has that green one at 1000 quid and out of stock... ouch that's ×20 for me. Does the cheaper one measure up.?
Could you guys also review the ebony fretboard ones, cause I think most finishes have ebony fretboards instead of maple
On my phone screen small way round it looks like it could be a Suhr, and by that it’s just a really classy take on the classic ‘s’ style
19:30 the sustainiac is not two coils. It's a single coil/sustain driver in a plastic humbucker housing. The other "coil" is just an empty shell.
It's sound ok, but yea it's not a fat as some people want or like.
100% a modern strat with a flat neck that has a nice and traditional look is cool. I like the AZ's, but would prefer them as an rg. (They just don't hit the mark on the more rounded thing)
Lee that's a nice sounding pedal board 😎🎸
My first bass was a schecter omen 4 I know own two of sessions the riot and the model t both emgs Grover tuners high mass bridge that says schecter designed but I think Floyd rose had something to do with to I think for right around 700 to 800 dollars great value and amazing quality
I really like the sound and look but I hate bad tuning stability those term bars... anyone having tuning stability issues with these guitars?
Ultimate signature guitar must be the Les Paul, but if we're being a bit more serious then yeah I think the JEM changed things massively, it's just that long ago we don't think of it. The RG as we know it didn't exist and they're massive sellers. If we're talking shred machines, the Kramer guitars at the moment, some of them are signature models but without the name as the player has since moved on. The Jersey Star was the RS for Richie Sambora, the Nightswan was Vivian Campbell's, the 84' Eddie Van Halen etc.
Haven’t watched yet but I’m gonna guess the 2 guitar store people gonna love them. Just a hunch
I HAVE THE GREEN ONE AND IT IS A MONSTER!!! I absolutely think it is the greatest guitar ever made. I have been playing for over 40 yrs and this guitar is a blessing! It can make you sound better than any guitar in the world! It plays like a dream and has the best tone I have ever heard from any guitar and I have Jacksons, and strats, and les pauls. The sun valley super shredder is the best guitar I have ever played in my life! The sustainiac is so usefull and cool. You have so much control over your sustain and harmonic feedback it is ridiculous. No other guitar has ever impressed me as much as this Schecter sun valley shredder. The neck is perfect, the quality is superb, and the sound is fat and rich. It is a must have for any experienced guitarist who is looking for that extra edge.
Wow! These look so cool. And the spec …… 🤪
The orange NJ was high on my list of potential guitar purchases last year until I played it. The plastic parts look/feel cheap, the switch was "clicky" & clunky, the pickups were very underwhelming and the neck was uncomfortably wide/shallow. Obviously it's all personal preference but, to me, it felt like a £300 guitar at best, especially next to the Charvel I eventually went for which seemed a steal at a similar price.
I just want the option of getting the pink color with the roasted maple neck.
This may be a dumb question but is it harder or easier, to do bar chords, with a flatter fretboard, like these guitars?
You're gonna feel that your hand position is way flatter. The majority of people would like a more rounded fretboard.
Can’t wait for the Klon Giveaway!
will the blue finish have maple fretboards plsssss
Can't decide between a NJ or Silver Sky SE
"Legato, I love that pasta." Still laughing!
Are the frets on the NJ Stainless Steel?
The PRS Zack Meyers SE is what you’re thinking of, Lee
Sorry if it's a stupid question, but what's the advantage of a smaller fretboard radius? I never understood that.
The radius determines how round or flat the fretboard is. It’s more of a feel thing and how it fits with what you play or maybe how you play. And it is something you can usually tell as soon as you play a guitar whether you enjoy that particular radius neck or not
@@Shoot_and_Scoot Yes, but a smaller radius has disadvantages, like bends dying off due to hitting the frets. So I assume there must be advantages to make up for that, otherwise everyone would use bigger radiuses? It can’t just be the feel, can it?
@Casey James I suspected that might be a reason. Not worth the disadvantages in my opinion, but others may disagree.
when's Nick Johnston coming back for another Captain Meets?
The zach myers prs was a guitar that I bought because of the build quality rather than being a myers fan.
I read the headline and thought `why should Will Lee like shred guitars? He´s a frickin´awesome bass player! When did he change to guitar???`
Captain the GStrummer :)
Anyone notice Pete on the HeadRush? Also Schecter rules. The South Korean Schecters are top notch.
Lee opened up with one of his best sounding licks. I think the shred guitar works.
SE Silver sky comes out and suddenly flatter radius is trash lol
flat radius guitars will spoil you, i have a few guitars with 20in radius and when i go back to a rounder board i feel like i have to work for it just a bit more.
Even the nick Johnson signature guitars are badass
Should be raber, Dave and chappers doing this recoew