@@2AOverland not a bad idea! Better safe than sorry. I'm glad it's working out well for you! I have a similar setup but I have wj knuckles and the track bar has a bracket that replaces the passenger upper control arm. I was watching this video trying to see how the steering stabilizers are set up so I can add one to my rig Hoping to get my xj setup for a 2400+ mile trip to Moab in September
Let me know if your Fox’s ever start leaking, I’m over in Yuma,Az. Can rebuild or revalve your shocks over a nice camping trip on the west end of AZ. I’m down to help the channel any time!
That would be huge man! A trip to Yuma for some shock tuning and trail sodas wouldn’t be bad at all 😎👍🏼 we really appreciate it and I’ll keep that in mind! Do you have an Instagram?
Make sure and check your measurements before putting the tie rod on. There is no adjustment sleeve on the tie rod, which requires complete removal of the tie rod to do a proper alignment. Learned the hard way!
Love the round headlights. Need to replace my headlights and the entire bucket/bezel but I really love the round look. What mounts and headlights did you go with? What did you do for your turn signal?
Thank you! I went to a scrap yard and bought TJ headlight buckets and got some headlights at an auto parts store. When I did it there wasn’t really any options for the square headlights like there is now. And for turn signal I didn’t do anything 😬 I just let the bulbs blink lol but I wouldn’t mind doing some type of small LED as my turn signal but I haven’t done it yet
@@2AOverland Sick, I was thinking about doing something similar but haven't quite figured out what I was going to do for my turn signals. Great video by the way, can't wait to install my cavfab steering when it comes in a few weeks. Bent my cheap tie rod in half last weekend and decided this is the way to go, especially before going on another moab trip 👀
I’ve been going to do this but I have seen so many people saying not to do it because the advantages aren’t worth the long term wear issues. Apparently, it’s also not much stronger because, although the drag links etc won’t bend, the heims will just snap off instead. Love to hear your thoughts. Also, do you actually notice any difference when driving?
I’ve never heard of or seen the heims snapping off it would take a crazy amount of force to do that. From my experience heims are about the strongest joint you can get for steering. You just gotta make sure they’re lubed and not extremely dirty. But they are cheap to replace. I have not noticed any difference with driving with the heim joint steering
Are you still happy with the steering setup? I need to upgrade, but am concerned about street manners since we take long trips to get to the trails. Thanks for your work, keep it up!
My jeep is a weekend warrior but this kit would be more than enough to daily drive with it. The only wearable parts are the heim joints and that would take years to wear out.
I see the steering requires 4.5” backspacing or wheel spacers. I dont have the money for new wheels, what size spacer do I need? The current rims are American Racing Bullet Hole wheels. Ive got 31x10.50R15 tires as well. I was trying to get a new front steering rebuild from TRQ but they let me down 3 times on one transaction. Taking it as a sign to get the CavFab steering lol.
maybe i didnt see it in another video and i have a 2004 WJ That i Have all the HD setup from TF Im just setting up the Alignment and the track bar and i wish i kept my stock stuff for a starting point. but live and learn. Now my Jeep Cherokee only has 60K on it and it wont really see off road. I have Street tires and just wanted to go heavy duty . May i ask why did you switch from TF. I Have heard that when i wear out the Hymes to get TMR Lifetime Hymes. But id like to know why ya changed i have 20 inch Spider monkey rims and tires Bilstein 5100 shocks and a 2 inch budget boast spacers and powde rcoated the stock springs RED and upgraded all the brakes to EBC and all new Stainless steel lines and did away with all the rubber brake hoses. Viper coil mod 12 hole injectors With Billet Fuel Rail upgraded all the power wires to large wire size and a 250amp JS Alternator and great Sound system. JL Audio Everything Different strokes for dif folks i guess sorry for the long winded Question
Thanks for watching! I honestly don’t feel a difference. I like heims cause of their strength and they’re cheaper to replace than standard steering parts. You shouldn’t have problems with heims if you keep them clean and lubed
I’m installing this setup on my 98 xj right now. This might be a stupid question but do you have rotational play on the tie rod and the drag link after tightening everything down?
I have the rubicon express one. It works well if you have between a 4.5in & 7.5in of lift, And It fits the trackbar perfect. I have it bolted and welded to the unibody just to play it safe. Here’s a link to the trackbar bracket amzn.to/3EPV35P
Hey quick question. So my jeep xj is on the jacks right now & thinking 10 steps ahead I removed the old track bar/tie rod & drag link completely off without measuring anything. I have the new drag link, tie rod & track bar just sitting here. Which order should I install first?
In order I would install track bar, tie rod then the drag link. Then get the jeep under its own weight on its tires. Then see if your axle is centered under the jeep and if it’s off center you can adjust the track bar and use the steering to pull the body in place to re-install the track bar. Once the axle is centered do a DIY alignment with the TMR kit or take it to a shop to get it aligned. I hope this helps with getting your rig on the road! 😬👍
You can as a ballpark alignment to get you to the shop to get a legit alignment or you can do it yourself like I did in this video with the TMR DIY alignment kit th-cam.com/video/BkYpgKhfMV8/w-d-xo.html
Hey bro saw u have fox shocks are they really good and smooth on the road for a daily cuz mine is 4x2 but on 4.5 inch lift with 33 and it’s rough looking to get bilsteins or foxes
Thanks for watching! I’d say the foxes are a huge upgrade and definitely would smooth out your daily. I have the non adjustable ones but if you can sway the few extra bucks a shock I’d get the adjustable ones to have even more control of your ride
I honestly don’t know man 😬 I wish I had that answer for you but if it helps my wheels are -4.50 back space and I never had an issue so far. Maybe call CavFab and see what that recommend
Hey man thanks for watching! The body side bracket I have is from rubicon express and the track bar heim fit in it perfectly! Here’s a link to the bracket amzn.to/3TE7cBo
I called cav-fab and they said as long as the larger brakes bolt up in the stock location it should be fine. And if you’re doing WJ or ZJ knuckles the steering kit won’t work cause you’ll need a longer tie rod and shorter drag link.
@@2AOverland i didnt think you were gonna reply im literally ordering this kit today i just stopped at the bank but i posted on this facebook group im in and like 2 guys said i had to say bye to my sway bar and i dont wanna lol
I appreciate it man thanks a ton 😎 I called CavFab just to make sure and the high clearance is what you’ll need so you don’t have to relocate anything.
Why can't you put the steering stabilizer bracket on the back side of the drag link and eliminate the spacer or put the long bolt in from the back so the threads aren't near the trackbar?
You could actually 🤔 I honestly didn’t think of that lol. I haven’t had clearance issues with the threads but if or when I change things up I’ll flip it all around! Thanks for that! And thanks for watching
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Holy fuck finally a video that’s helpful. So many build videos with no help at all just videos of before and after.
Glad to help 😎👍🏼
Can’t wait to order this next for my XJ. My alpha 3 link arrives this upcoming week and can’t wait to get it bolted up!
I have no experience with their alpha kit but I’ve heard nothing but good things about it! 👍🏼 I hope this video helps you when you get your steering!!
You can flip the bolt for the steering stabilizer to fix the possible interference issue. Have the head of the bolt on the track bar side
Good call man, I haven’t had an issue yet but I’m thinking about flipping it and doing a shorter bolt so everything looks a lot better
@@2AOverland not a bad idea! Better safe than sorry. I'm glad it's working out well for you! I have a similar setup but I have wj knuckles and the track bar has a bracket that replaces the passenger upper control arm. I was watching this video trying to see how the steering stabilizers are set up so I can add one to my rig
Hoping to get my xj setup for a 2400+ mile trip to Moab in September
Seems like a simple install, thanks for the upload.
Not a problem thanks for watching!
Oh hey, was just looking for crossover steering videos for my XJ, lol
That’s awesome man 😂
You’re always 2 steps ahead of me 😎
Great minds think alike brotha! 🤔👍🏼
Great video, noticed some kind of wrapping over the exhaust tube pipe, what is it? Thanks
CavFab makes some quality stuff for sure..👍👍💪
Yeah I’m very happy I went this route! Everything went together so easy and the powder coated finish is great.
I’m tossed up on Stinky Fabs vs CavFabs stuff . I like how stinkyfabs flex and return
I really like the aluminum steering that stinkyfab has also but for the price the CavFab steering can’t be beat
Let me know if your Fox’s ever start leaking, I’m over in Yuma,Az. Can rebuild or revalve your shocks over a nice camping trip on the west end of AZ. I’m down to help the channel any time!
That would be huge man! A trip to Yuma for some shock tuning and trail sodas wouldn’t be bad at all 😎👍🏼 we really appreciate it and I’ll keep that in mind! Do you have an Instagram?
Make sure and check your measurements before putting the tie rod on. There is no adjustment sleeve on the tie rod, which requires complete removal of the tie rod to do a proper alignment. Learned the hard way!
Love the round headlights. Need to replace my headlights and the entire bucket/bezel but I really love the round look. What mounts and headlights did you go with? What did you do for your turn signal?
Thank you! I went to a scrap yard and bought TJ headlight buckets and got some headlights at an auto parts store. When I did it there wasn’t really any options for the square headlights like there is now. And for turn signal I didn’t do anything 😬 I just let the bulbs blink lol but I wouldn’t mind doing some type of small LED as my turn signal but I haven’t done it yet
@@2AOverland Sick, I was thinking about doing something similar but haven't quite figured out what I was going to do for my turn signals. Great video by the way, can't wait to install my cavfab steering when it comes in a few weeks. Bent my cheap tie rod in half last weekend and decided this is the way to go, especially before going on another moab trip 👀
I’ve been going to do this but I have seen so many people saying not to do it because the advantages aren’t worth the long term wear issues. Apparently, it’s also not much stronger because, although the drag links etc won’t bend, the heims will just snap off instead. Love to hear your thoughts. Also, do you actually notice any difference when driving?
I’ve never heard of or seen the heims snapping off it would take a crazy amount of force to do that. From my experience heims are about the strongest joint you can get for steering. You just gotta make sure they’re lubed and not extremely dirty. But they are cheap to replace. I have not noticed any difference with driving with the heim joint steering
@@2AOverland awesome. Thanks.
Are you still happy with the steering setup? I need to upgrade, but am concerned about street manners since we take long trips to get to the trails. Thanks for your work, keep it up!
Thanks a ton!! I’d say we have about 1500-2000 miles on this setup so far with zero issues 😎 I’d say it’s good to go for your badass Comanche!
Do you daily your jeep? Or is it a camping and weekend Warrior? Wondering how tight the steering is for daily use.
My jeep is a weekend warrior but this kit would be more than enough to daily drive with it. The only wearable parts are the heim joints and that would take years to wear out.
I installed this kit and so far so good. I cannot for the life of me get the steering wheel straight. Any advice?
Mines been off too 😅
I see the steering requires 4.5” backspacing or wheel spacers. I dont have the money for new wheels, what size spacer do I need? The current rims are American Racing Bullet Hole wheels. Ive got 31x10.50R15 tires as well. I was trying to get a new front steering rebuild from TRQ but they let me down 3 times on one transaction. Taking it as a sign to get the CavFab steering lol.
maybe i didnt see it in another video and i have a 2004 WJ That i Have all the HD setup from TF Im just setting up the Alignment and the track bar and i wish i kept my stock stuff for a starting point. but live and learn. Now my Jeep Cherokee only has 60K on it and it wont really see off road. I have Street tires and just wanted to go heavy duty . May i ask why did you switch from TF. I Have heard that when i wear out the Hymes to get TMR Lifetime Hymes. But id like to know why ya changed i have 20 inch Spider monkey rims and tires Bilstein 5100 shocks and a 2 inch budget boast spacers and powde rcoated the stock springs RED and upgraded all the brakes to EBC and all new Stainless steel lines and did away with all the rubber brake hoses. Viper coil mod 12 hole injectors With Billet Fuel Rail upgraded all the power wires to large wire size and a 250amp JS Alternator and great Sound system. JL Audio Everything Different strokes for dif folks i guess sorry for the long winded Question
Can u put the drag link in the bottom instead of the tie rod? I think this would help prevent bump steer
I don’t think you can since it wasn’t designed that way. I had a kit from IRO that crossed over like that and I still had bump steer
Are they supposed to be real tight after installation or do they have sime play in it
Mine were tight but if they have play that’s from the joints themselves and should be fine
Do you need a new track bar with the one ton steering?
No you don’t but it doesn’t hurt to do a beefier one while you’re replacing parts!
How do the heims feel for regular road driving? I always hear they're great for off road but not so great on the road.
Thanks for watching! I honestly don’t feel a difference. I like heims cause of their strength and they’re cheaper to replace than standard steering parts. You shouldn’t have problems with heims if you keep them clean and lubed
I’m installing this setup on my 98 xj right now. This might be a stupid question but do you have rotational play on the tie rod and the drag link after tightening everything down?
Hey thanks for watching! I do have some play in the tie rod and drag link but not much. I don’t think it’s a big deal if everything is tight 😬
That looks nice good job
Thanks for watching 😎👍🏼
What track bar bracket do you have? I have frame stiffeners and can't find a solid answer on one that will fit with the stiffeners?
I have the rubicon express one. It works well if you have between a 4.5in & 7.5in of lift, And It fits the trackbar perfect. I have it bolted and welded to the unibody just to play it safe.
Here’s a link to the trackbar bracket
amzn.to/3EPV35P
Hey quick question. So my jeep xj is on the jacks right now & thinking 10 steps ahead I removed the old track bar/tie rod & drag link completely off without measuring anything. I have the new drag link, tie rod & track bar just sitting here. Which order should I install first?
In order I would install track bar, tie rod then the drag link. Then get the jeep under its own weight on its tires. Then see if your axle is centered under the jeep and if it’s off center you can adjust the track bar and use the steering to pull the body in place to re-install the track bar. Once the axle is centered do a DIY alignment with the TMR kit or take it to a shop to get it aligned. I hope this helps with getting your rig on the road! 😬👍
Nice video, can you just measure off the front and back of the bead of the rim while doing toe measurements??
You can as a ballpark alignment to get you to the shop to get a legit alignment or you can do it yourself like I did in this video with the TMR DIY alignment kit
th-cam.com/video/BkYpgKhfMV8/w-d-xo.html
Hey bro saw u have fox shocks are they really good and smooth on the road for a daily cuz mine is 4x2 but on 4.5 inch lift with 33 and it’s rough looking to get bilsteins or foxes
Thanks for watching! I’d say the foxes are a huge upgrade and definitely would smooth out your daily. I have the non adjustable ones but if you can sway the few extra bucks a shock I’d get the adjustable ones to have even more control of your ride
Couldn’t you have put the stabilizer bracket on the other side of drag link and eliminated having to use spacer?
I could have possibly…. I think I put the spacer cause the body of the stabilizer would of contacted the drag link itself
Will that fit with stock wheels no lift? I was looking at rough country and it says minimum 4" lift and needs wider wheels to clear
I honestly don’t know man 😬 I wish I had that answer for you but if it helps my wheels are -4.50 back space and I never had an issue so far. Maybe call CavFab and see what that recommend
Heck ya
Thanks for watching man! 👍🏼
Did u get the high clearance steering? Or just standard steering?
Thanks for watching! I got the high clearance kit
Hey man update? Just bought it and I’m curious and how it’s doing over time
Zero issues with the kit 😎
@@2AOverland Did your tie rods sag when you installed them? They dont wanna stay up for me
No they didn’t stay up for me either but I had no interference so I ran em
@@2AOverland Gotcha lol im glad im not the only one
Is the stabilizer necessary with this cavfab steering? Or is it an option
It’s not needed but I run it for smoother steering
How do you like that fox stabilizer?
It’s been great! Definitely beefier than any other stabilizer that I’ve ran before
@@2AOverland do you doubt it fully extended or compressed?
What bracket is that, on the body side, and did the heim fit in there nicely?
Hey man thanks for watching! The body side bracket I have is from rubicon express and the track bar heim fit in it perfectly! Here’s a link to the bracket
amzn.to/3TE7cBo
Does you stabilizer contact the track bar at full tuem
Nope doesn’t at all :)
How would this workout with a WJ or ZJ big brake conversion for the XJ?
I called cav-fab and they said as long as the larger brakes bolt up in the stock location it should be fine. And if you’re doing WJ or ZJ knuckles the steering kit won’t work cause you’ll need a longer tie rod and shorter drag link.
Did you modify your axle side tracked bar mount?
Not really other than reinforcing it cause it wallowed out years ago and was giving me death wobble
@@2AOverland just welded a plate of steel to it?
Yep pretty much
did you have to relocate your sway bar or sway bar links
Nope 😊 I got their high clearance kit so I didn’t need to. Thanks for watching by the way!
@@2AOverland i didnt think you were gonna reply im literally ordering this kit today i just stopped at the bank but i posted on this facebook group im in and like 2 guys said i had to say bye to my sway bar and i dont wanna lol
Thanks for replying bro ima subscribe
I appreciate it man thanks a ton 😎 I called CavFab just to make sure and the high clearance is what you’ll need so you don’t have to relocate anything.
I try to reply and help everybody I can so no worries!
Is this the high clearance or standar steering
The high clearance steering
Saludos 🍀
Any death wobble or bump steer?
Slight bump steer but that’s cause of the trackbar and drag link angle but it’s not too bad. And zero death wobble 😎
@@2AOverland how much lift you rimunning
6in of lift
@@2AOverland awesome thanks bud
I didn’t know Oliver tree made jeep videos🤯
I’ve got earl from my name is earl before but never Oliver tree.. I’m missing the bowl cut but okay 😂
What did you toque the bolts to?
I couldn’t find a spec on their website so I used a little blue loc-tite and got it as tight as humanly possible… thanks for watching!
What rims and offset u got
Here’s a link to the wheels I have! They’re -4.00 offset 😎
www.summitracing.com/parts/crr-3975112
Why can’t they have this for the WJ😩
I’m wondering why they don’t 🤔 I don’t see why their grand Cherokee kit would work. I would contact them and ask!
What would the German spec be?
Goodten tight 😂
@@2AOverland
That was good.lol
Why can't you put the steering stabilizer bracket on the back side of the drag link and eliminate the spacer or put the long bolt in from the back so the threads aren't near the trackbar?
You could actually 🤔 I honestly didn’t think of that lol. I haven’t had clearance issues with the threads but if or when I change things up I’ll flip it all around! Thanks for that! And thanks for watching
I'd rather have tie rods for my DD,,,
Understandable. I like heims for strength
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Thanks for watching man 😎👍🏼
@@2AOverland great content man, you are doing a great job. The effort does not go overlooked. 👍🏻
That means a lot brother. We’ll keep the vids coming!
I paint my nails too
Yeah I don’t recommend the nail painting method I used 😂
@@2AOverland im an expert at hitting my hands with stuff i should'nt
Same, playing whack a mole with fingers is not fun
You want to be towed in 1/16
I towed in 1/8