How to Ruin a Scene: Breaking Bad's adaptation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 เม.ย. 2024
- A video essay comparing the boxcutter scene through visual language.
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In this video essay, we undertake a critical examination of Breaking Bad counterpart, delving into both the strengths and weaknesses of each adaptation. By scrutinizing the linguistic nuances and editing choices employed in both series, we aim to elucidate how the other version falls short in certain aspects compared to the original. Through this comparative analysis, we highlight not only the educational value of studying adaptations but also the importance of recognizing shortcomings in cultural translations.
This is the video I've liked the least, so in the next ones, I'll return to shorter and better-produced videos. For now, I prefer quality over duration. I'm just starting with this channel, so I would really appreciate it if you shared and subscribed :)
Dude, that was a great video!
Friend, you’re way too hard on yourself. Your commentary and thoughtfulness was engaging throughout. Definitely earned a sub
@@MichaelBNegron thank you very much for those words
I agree, I felt like I was seeing the same clips over and over with the same points
I actually enjoyed this one! I wouldn't have minded even more honestly.
I think Colombian Walter genuinely has potential in acting. He's just held back by direction
Yeah, he has a very expressive face and often makes similar faces to Cranston. Hearing that they did all of it in 6 months makes a lot of sense, they wouldn't have had time to look into and explore all the little nuances.
He died bro
@@marcowulliampopirers2216 shit did not know that. rest in piece
@@Terlinilia he's not dead
@@oxim0r DAMN Y'all telling me he dead and now he's not dead WHO TF DO I TRUST
6 months to reshoot the entire series??? That speed is insane
Did they need to remake it?
@notquitehim probably not. However, there could have been some legal issues at the time and for one reason or another, it was concluded that re-shooting the entire series was a better choice than simply sub/dubing it. I'm not a Colombian lawyer, so who knows.
Foreign media does this alot. Heck even our own media does it with alot of British shows
Yep, that's how quickly movies and tv series are made in Latinamerica. It's insane and gives terrible results, but this is a consequence of low budgets
Metastasis was Producer by sony
Saul Bueno is genuinely the only guy who did his homework on Metastasis. He plays a good Saul but he also brings his own flair to the character. I wish they were really doing a Cuentele a Saul prequel
They'd probably give it a really bad and overly literal title like Mejor llamar Saulo. Or call the sequel film "The Walk."
Please tell me they didn’t actually name him “Saul Bueno”
@@notquitehim Well unfortunately they did, walter
@@stapleface4147 Gualter Blanco...with his wife Cielo 😂
@@notquitehimthey did. 😂
Mike instinctively yanking his gun out is one of my favorite minor details in the series. He's about as loyal of an underling as you can get, and the shock and surprise is so overwhelming to him that he instantly detects gustavo as a threat without even realizing it's his boss he's aiming at.
There are so many moving parts with Mike, it's crazy. The only other character in the BB/BCS universe that comes close is Lalo. The game of chess each plays is past 4d and into otherworldly. Very intelligent characters. Outside of Walter's scientific intelligence, the street smarts of Mike and Lalo make them superior in that sense.
With all honesty, and giving no sarcasm.. Bravo Vince! ❤😊
I always enjoyed how we get three different reactions from the people in the room. Mike grabs his gun because he perceives a threat. Walt backs away because he is frightened. Jesse leans forward because he isn’t afraid to die, in that moment. Both Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul are such great character studies
I also thought he grabbed the gun more for Gus's safety. Gus has attacked Victor, and what if Victor tries to fight back? Mike protects his boss unconditionally.
I know, he was losing a lot of blood, but Mike pulled out the gun immediately before he knew what was going to happen.
At least, that's another angle on it.
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@@EverydayLinguisticseyo I remember your channel it was in my feed for a while LMAO
When Gus comes in it's like your dad walking in when you're in trouble.
...or that split second your heart skips when a cop hits their lights and siren right behind you. 😳
I always hated it when my dad threatend me with a box Cutter 😒
Much more sinister
When Gustavo walks in it's more of a "Are ya winning son?"
Can I just say how amazingly awesome it is Metastasis exists? It's the ultimate film theory comparison, even if it's a failure as a show. It's like what you'd call in the gaming world a "demake."
the mere fact that someone decided to adapt an entire show *scene by scene* into a different cultural background is remarkable by itself
I think "weird bootleg copy" is better than "demake" (as far as I know, a demake tries to keep the spirit of the original, while Metastasis changes stuff for no good reason, and feels more like a mockbuster than a genuine adaptation at times)
Ark survival Devolved.
You might find it a fun exercise to watch and compare the original UK IT Crowd to the pilot episode of American IT Crowd as well! It's bizarre
@@vlc-cosplayer Yeah demakes are usually remakes that are made into videogame consoles with bigger technical limitations than the one where the game was originally made for
How to ruin a scene? Lower budgeting clearly
Hell no. Give the folks that made BB the budget of Metastasis and they'll make something leagues better than it.
Did you even watch the video???
And talent
You compleately missed the point of the whole video
Wish youtube deleted moronic comments like this.
you also missed
- gus appearing from the shadows as devil himself
- the fact he is clearly pissed off but calculating and only directly staring at Walter
- the fact that the scene doesnt show us others for a few secs because like them youre not allowed to break eye contact with gus. he decides when the scene will move on
also,the fact that walter was wearing blue symbolising horror and he was horrified when gus killed victor, while jesse was wearing red symbolising madness and was angry is such a cool detail
Also what I felt was really important was at 12:00 you can see that Jesse is fixated on the boxcutter even before it's been established as a threat. He's so on edge that he's prepared for any threat. As opposed to 12:12 when his counterpart isn't even on screen until the moment Gustavo acts. And he's not even really looking at him up until that point.
i like 14:40 - gus is staring at walter, throws victors body at walter, but the blood drifts towards jesse
@@bryanasher7310 The curtains represent his immense depression and his lack of will to carry on
"The joke is that he doesn't regain absolutely anything."
I've watched Breaking Bad at least 6 times over the past decade and a half, and that very accurately describes most of Walt's story lol
Can't put a price on a good time
@@Smegmadonis $60 if you're in a rather seedy part of Las Vegas and don't mind itching a little.
aaron’s sadness in jesse is beautiful
There’s something kind of timeless and elegant in it
@@soulknight5330 How so?
@@The_Alpha_E in the way that never does he perform him as nothing more than a crybaby and his pain is deeply relatable, that’s why I say timeless because I believe people will relate to him for years to come.
@@soulknight5330 the shit he goes through isn't relatable to me me but I think anyone can clearly understand why he's so sad
@@sinia556 that’s what I meant
9:40 I think you glossed over mike's look here. The entire time Mike has been waiting for Gus to arrive, and its likely he's been wondering what the hell Gus is going to do to react to this. Here we almost see a bit of fear in Mike. He knows Gus well, and that he's capable of insane things when those he cares about are put in danger. He's almost try to tell Gus through his gaze "keep it cool, don't do anything unreasonable". To which Gus violently kills his own employee, the most unreasonable thing to do in that situation.
Ooh thank you for drawing my attention to how angry Jesse looks in this scene. It's something I'd never noticed before but it makes sense cos he's a good hearted man who always balks at needless violence so it totally reads that his response would be rage
Also as we see in the diner he's totally detached from any worry, not really caring what happens now he's crossed a line and killed Gale. So he feels free to confront Gus with pure hatred, no more hesistation left.
Good hearted?why is eveyone acting like jesse is a christian church going family man who donates half his income to charity?he is a drug producer/dealer and did so many bad things during the series,not saying he is completely evil but definetely not someone i would consider good
The way the audience is naturally predisposed to look down on Jesse and empathize with Walt in the beginning and the way it’s completely subverted by the end is probably the biggest masterstroke of the entire series. Jesse is a degenerate drug user, but he truly has a good heart, he’s not without ambition, but every time he’s has to forsake his morality you can feel him fight it, his arc is one in which he tries to be a better person and is consistently pushed to be worse by Walt, every time he fights back he’s punished, but he continues to try to do the right thing. Killing Gale and later seeing the skinheads kill that innocent kid messes him up in a way that Walt doesn’t need to reconcile with. At the end of the day Jessie may kind of be a piece of shit, but he’s a victim in so many ways and it feels like he deserves better. He’s in an evil world the whole story revolves around making and selling meth, Jessie gets treated like he’s a natural part of that world, but apart from being a user and maybe a small time dealer in the beginning, it doesn’t feel like it’s his world, but Walt makes it his world from the moment he kills that dude in the first season, he’s on a path going one direction and it can only end one way. Jessie has hope, he IS hope, that’s what he’s meant to represent at the end of the day.
@@marcowulliampopirers2216 compared to the likes of Walter and gus, he may as well be lol
@@marcowulliampopirers2216as commander Benjamin Sisko says: "it's easy to be good while living in paradise."
this is probably the first time i'm hearing about "illustrative vs. cinematic language". you made me realize just how much thought and passion was put into this show. i think that in just 16 minutes of watching, my media literacy has improved a bit. i hope you make more videos like this!
The power in Vince Gilligan's work is really about recognizing subtleties that actors bring. Jesse was supposed to die in the first season and Gus was cast in a bit part as a "friendly man who sells chicken". They could have gone merrily on with the original ideas, but wisely rewrote the scripts to fit the actors. Walter needed the father/son dynamic that develops to bring out his character. Jesse is a key part of his legacy. Meanwhile, Giancarlo Esposito brought such a quiet menace to his character that his presence demanded a bigger role.
There is simply no way to replicate that dynamic. The script followed the cast, so a different cast would require a different story.
finally an essayist truly grasping why Victor was killed. this is a great analysis. I subbed.
thank you
Art is subjective
@@barbariangamin5136 I think they're referring to the authors intention, as well as what the cinematography most naturally lead to. Also art is hugely normative, with subjective and objective elements.
@@barbariangamin5136 So is wealth and yet you're still broke.
@@psychopompous489 But objectivity in itself, is subjective
Loved the anaysis of the power dynamic within both scenes, really adds to outlning why the tones are so different, really engaging video man
thanks a lot, man, really appreciate it coming from someone like you!
i watched this expecting it to be from a channel with a couple thousand subs and i was extremely surprised to see how underrated your channel is dude amazing stuff
thanks dude, means a lot
I didn't even notice this was a newer channel until I saw this comment, the quality is way too good to be from a channel with 100 subs lol
For real. I feel like I learned something. Sub earned.
@@lancelloti. he's right, I keep finding hidden gems lately, like another good one with only 800 subs. god speed
seriously, I just subscribed and I'm proud to be one of the first 1000 to be here, this content has potential for millions of views, and I'm excited to see this man's channel grow
IMO jesse's expression to victor being sliced isn't purely anger but more something along the lines of "ready to fight". It's like ferocity mixed with fear as he watches Gus very carefully.
It also seems like Walter and Mike "lost their footing" and sense of control whereas Jesse was already indifferent/detached to the whole situation beforehand.
Jesse's reaction also involves actual mental steps/ reasoning whereas Walter and Mike react out of pure instinct.
Well as far as Jesse goes maybe Gale is on his mind but I get more of a sense that he thinks he is going to die and his last hour of life is spent sitting next to the guy that ruined his life and he won't stf up to boot. It's the feeling I get when I get stuck with a coworker I can't stand or when I was young and got in trouble and the punishment is soon to come. I just want to shell up and get it over with.
8:26 I know this is most likely an accidental but I like to think there's symbolism in that shot. Specifically at the end of the shot Gus' head covers a gap between two steel beams in the background, possibly symbolising that Gus is what holds everything together or that he's arrived to patch a fresh hole in his plans to replace Walter.
I really like this observation. I never try to read so much into a particular moment, mainly to avoid a "Bravo Vince", but that's a very good explanation for that placement.
This is by far the best explanation of everything that happens here, including why Victor behaves the way he does and why that leads to his death. Thanks!
Thanks to you!
Easily subscribing after this video. This is the kind of in-depth analysis I've been looking for on TH-cam.
thanks! More are coming soon
I love videos that explore some of the more forgotten pieces of dialogue because they really show how much thought and care was placed into every second of this show.
I follow a good amount of movie review/film-analyzing channels and I must say, this channel is a GEM. This is by far the most educational. Your absorption and understanding of the multifaceted art of filming is so educational and well articulated. And your passion for this niche is contagious. Please keep it up and you'll be big
Thank you very much, it's very comforting to read these words. More videos are coming, so I hope not to disappoint
Really good video. It's incredible how an actors delivery could have the littlest change, but could actually be the biggest difference for the tonality and context of the situation.
It's crazy the amount of thought that goes into absolutely everything. This video does a great job at showing just how genius Breaking Bad was about not just getting the little details right, but also going above and beyond to get things like the framing right, the subtle camera tricks that enhance the scene, and even music or a lack of music to emphasize important elements.
Dude I’d assumed when I watched this this’d be like a bigger channel with like a few dozen thousand subs I cannot believe you’ve only got five hundred something, phenomenal quality and analysis for a smaller creator.
Thank you bro!
this is such a great video i did not see any of these details at first or completely forgot about them, great work
anyone else notice at 14:42 you can see victors blood spurt out to the side but in the next shot its in a perfect puddle
I think they changed it because look where the direction of the blood goes to. Jesse. It might have been changed so the visual thought process is that the blood is literally on walter who is responsible for this.
WOAH this video blew me away this is some high quality content I for sure subscribed
ElCarbon is that you?
pense lo mismo ademas ya no encuentro el mismo video
That intro is a verbatim translation of that video’s intro.
@@quantumrevolverJusto eso acabo de ver
@@quantumrevolver th-cam.com/video/JVYd-EEgOf8/w-d-xo.html
si es el mismo, tal vez hizo este canal para que le deje mas ganancias ya que en ingles deja mas dinero
Awesome video. Fascinating how the small decisions can make such a huge difference (and how the small decisions are actually not small at all!)
the metastasis throat-slitting scene felt like an eric andre bit
Wow great analysis jeez i am shocked at how underrated your channel is
I remember the first time I saw this scene, the moment that terrified me was when Mike reactively pointed his gun at Gus. Mike is so capable and trusted by the audience, that for him to be surprised and threatened.
I really enjoyed this assessment and comparison. Both in how it allowed me to understand more closely how the original show achieved such a visceral authenticity in these moments, and how it can be completely missed if not approached in the correct manner. Really interesting video thanks for creating it
Brilliant, insightful, clear analysis. Well done. 👏🏼
I just subscribed after Andy Serkis's analysis, and I have to say... I never imagined you would finish this one with an Argentinian comparison. I'm from Argentina and I loved Okupas, and it's really interesting to compare the two characters. I think you really have a special eye for these things, and like you said, Okupas is more along the lines of showing the marginalized youth in Buenos Aires, and a sharp critique of the social and economic conditions that we had during the early 2000s. It could be really interesting to see another analysis of it from you! Anyways, love the content! Thanks for sharing and keep on working on it!
Very well written, your channel deserves more attention
I like your video essay take and editing in this video. There's a lot of talking, but it's captivating.
It was great to see such a deep take on this scene; comparing it with the Latin American version really shows how remarkable the series was. I never even knew there was a remake before watching this video. I like cinema, movies, and TV shows, and I definitely need more in-depth video essays like this.
Would love a video more in depth about Okupas, and also its inspiration, the movie Pizza,Birra,Faso. Loved the vid, keep up the good work!
Despite how recently this video was made, I'm quite positive that it will gain a decent amount of views due to it's quality. Bravo.
IS THIS ELCARBÓN?!?!
Please do more like this! Fantastic analysis
Honestly, such a great video! Very well edited and you got your points across well too. I hadn't even heard of this adaptation but your thumbnail and video presentation skills got me interested enough to watch all the way through :) Keep up the great work! (And it is great!)
Thank You so much
I don't think I've ever subbed so fast to a channel! This was an amazing, well thought out introspective take! I truly appreciate the time you put into this! Looking forward to more! 👏👏👏
thank you! just uploeaded a new video today :)
Agree with these other comments, was lucky to find this quality analysis on my recommended. Great video man
Thank you :')
this was extremely well done man. Good work!
Seeing Okupas at the end was a shock. It's definitely one of the best series I've ever seen, it gets you hooked from the first second to the last. I seriously hope you make a video about it. It really is a masterpiece, but unfortunately it never was massive outside Argentina and a couple of countries in SA. It's quite possibly my favorite series ever, along of course BB.
you're amazing, watching every one of your videos rn
13:45 my favorite moment in the series. Defines all three characters in the scene in less than 30 seconds literally perfectly.
Knew you'd start doing amazing bro keep up the good work 🙏
thanks for your constant support man 🫂
very well produced video, and a great analysis
The Okupas reference was a surprise, but a welcome one. I'd definitely love to see a video on it! (El Marginal could be a good pick too, in a similar vein)
Really great. Learned a lot. A lot of depth here in the Breaking Bad show and the analysis!
I think there's another interpretation of the scene where Jesse is staring in anger at Gus. Jesse just got back from killing Gale in cold blood, and has clearly been dissociated up until then, contemplating the weight of his actions. When he sees Gus kill Victor in cold blood, he sees a cold-blooded killing not dissimilar from the cold-blooded killing he just committed hours before. So when he gives Gus a look of hatred and disgust, Jesse's actually projecting his own self-hatred onto Gus because Jesse can't cope with how he just murdered Gale.
this channel is so underrated I recommend that you make a video on La Haine, such a great film
That was really good ! Worthy of a lot more than 2k subscribers !!
usted no eres elCarbon?
METÁSTASISSSS that's a throwback for me, I used to watch it just to see how it compared to BrBa and well, this vid sums it up well lol. U just got a new subscriber! Keep it up man, well done 👍
Eres ElCarbón con otro canal o...?
good analysis, I would like to see a lot of these
thank you! more videos are coming
@@lancelloti. you got yourself a fan buddy!
The world can never have enough well crafted Breaking Bad youtube videos!
I think I found the meat of the issue: it's a foreign knockoff.
Literal fucking racism but ok
Wait why does this ripoff version exist? Kind of surprised given the extreme power the studios have with their intellectual property.
This is by far your best one. I liked this video so I watched all your others. I found that though they're framed as essays, they end up being more excuses for you to string together a series of observations, which leaves me feeling like I missed the point. Where this video succeeds is that the goal was only ever to reveal how the original version was more effective, to which your observations act as case in point. And the point by point comparison to metastasis helps both in offering an immediacy to your arguments and by providing structure. Really I think this issue wouldn't if your writing was better, maybe there was a bigger point and you either failed to find it yourself or just failed to convince me of it. Either way, I'd stick around to watch more videos like this one, but your others not so much. My advice would be to play to your strengths (which don't seem to include essay writing) and try to define your own voice a little more
English isn't even my native language, so I suppose I'll have language deficiencies. That said, speaking of writing, you wrote a lot to say very little.
yo at first, i only want to watch a bit of this video but you made me sit throught the whole 16mins of explaining this short scenes. amazng
The only thing missing was the color red. Idk if that was on purpose and we were just supposed to look at framing and reactions but color is a huge part of Breaking Bad. The other version doesn’t have that. At least from what i could tell its one of the few times that Jesse wears red. Walter is in Blue because well its blue meth. Not sure of the reason of Mikes color.
I really got into color because of this one analysis of Blade Runner 2049 that explained color and framing really well and I can’t find it anymore. How much care you can tell he puts into those shots. One is when you see K tell a lie in the precinct and sees that is something that he can do.
Otherwise really great. I learned things from this scene i wouldn’t have otherwise. This is a really good analysis. I was really taking in all you had to say. Thank you so much.
this is a great breakdown. i live in ABQ and love film and BB. this vid got you a sub
fantastic video, subscribed. how you dont have more views is beyond me
thank you bro! let's hope that changes soon :)
great analysis! subscribed
You got my sub. I dont usually sub to small channels but this vid was really well made. Looking forward to more vids
Thank you so much. More videos are coming soon!
I'm so happy I stumbled upon you....this was really well done, and yes, you explained your points very well.... I'm heading down your rabbit hole now 👋
thank you! just uploeaded a new video today :)
i tought this was a video from a 100k+ subs channell you deserve more
Thank you bro!
subbed! with this level of quality your gon blow up real soon my dude
Thank you! i really hope so 🙏
this video encapsulates: Bravo Vince!
Wow !! Mentioning Okupas was fascinating. As an Argentinian I believe Okupas is one of the greatest series made here. It really does portray our lenguage, and what you would expect in marginalized people from the city. It's really not that famous here. You MUST watch "Los Simuladores" which is probably also top tier argentinian television. Please make a video if you ever do :)
Okupas fue un boom, y más después de que lo subieron a netflix. Pasa que obvio, afuera de Argentina no fue muy popular, pero en los 2000 todos hablaban de la serie.
Great comparison and analysis! I wasn't really aware of this Colombian version and that it tells the exact same story. But it's extremely interesting to see, what nuances and directing decisions are at play to make something a masterpiece versus some average daily soap
I only want to add that "Metástasis" is an incredibly good title for the show
The adaptation Just can't work anyway, especially as a shot for shot remake, because part of the Breaking Bad world is the setting.
The series is partly about the relationship between the US and Mexico, on the border.
The fact that Walt is based in America matters to the story a great deal.
I didn't even know there was a Colombian remake. Why does this even exist? Why not just have a Colombian dub T-T
Great video btw!
Thank you!
This video is very good considering your young channel. Keep at it bro
Thank god there's an analysis of this show that's respectful and deep now.
Great analysis, this makes me want to watch breaking bad again. I never really picked up on the subtleties of who is trying to achieve power, though that is the whole point of Walter's ambition, trying to establish himself as the only suitable cook for the cartel
holy shit man this video is INCREDIBLE! you earned my sub
thanks, man! means a bunch
bro what is this quality😭😭😭 u are too good to only have a few subs
thank you :) let's hope that changes soon!
So a high budge production with more time to get it done is better than way lower budged and no time? Damn bro loving the analytics going on
How tf do you have so few followers. The video is of great quality.
I learned a lot and the idea to compare the two was great. From acting to editing it was really inspiring to see how "small" decisions create drastically different results.
I think by showing this you kinda solve the problem we have with film analysis. It's often bloated and overcomplicated. The person who does the analyzing is often times grasping for straws and it feels like justifying things after the fact just for d*ck riding a director they love.
But here, you literally show what happens if you don't, as a director, over analyse your shots. It makes those editing and acting choices real.
You just made my Saturday brighter. Greetings and thank you very much for those words, welcome to the channel, and I hope the rest of the videos live up to your expectations
You have a great voice pal, keep it up!
I cant believe you’re only 3k subs. Here’s one. Cheers 🍻 amazing video
This type of solution happens in the storyboard part, the storyboard artist is the first director of a scene so that the director on set can be as creative as possible
Great video my friend! cool seeing how Breaking Bad is still big
Such a random video I have stumbled upon, but I couldn´t agree more with everything you mentioned.
Great material you got my sub.
cheers bro! really grateful
Congrats on getting blessed by TH-cam’s algorithm. Great video!
Were you elCarbon?
Was wondering the same. It's the same video but traslated
cool video on a great scene! and you didn't even talk about the lighting and its effects on gus's presence(always with light in his back, or how him putting on the red suit and directly mirroring jesse's murder and staring him in the eye... kinda showing jesse what he is.
that's true, or even the clothes of Walter (blue=fear) and Jesse (raw)
The use of color in BB/BCS has always had me in complete awe. 👏🎨
Another great video. I would describe Jessie's reaction as contemptuous. He is fearful, but his feelings for Walter, Gus, and himself amount to a contempt for the situation as a whole, for the necessity of violence.
Victor had one job, protect Gail. He failed so Gus took it out on him.
lovely video, amazing to watch
Thanks bro!
Si hay algo que no esperaba al ver este análisis era que haya una referencia a Okupas. TH-cam nunca dejas de sorprenderme.