@@Kelpflakes ok. But still this isnt reddit. The whole "r/woooooosh" is annoying. Just say it was a joke no need to say "r/woooooooosh" because it makes things more complicated
@@optimisticwhovian1726 Actually, none of the costumed characters at Disney are allowed to "talk", they simply learn how to act in the costume and pantomime with an uncostumed Disney cast member helping interpret. This isn't a thing for human characters like, say, Mary Poppins or Aladdin.
“Five fingers looked like too much on such a little figure, so we took one away. That was just one less finger to animate” That book just answered my 2nd burning question
Fun fact: The Blue Meanies from the animated Beatles movie “Yellow Submarine” are deliberately drawn with SIX fingers on each hand as sort of a jab at this convention. Instead of taking away one finger, let’s add TWO more!
And here, we were lied by parents when we were little that we can't draw full fingers on drawing, or they will come to life. 'That's why cartoon got 4 fingers' 😭
I always thought that the cartoon birds didn't wear gloves because the fingers are technically their feathers taking shape of hands and fingers... as opposed to having paws.
@Drew Taylor Whoa, I remember the 2012 Loony Toons Show being pretty good, but I didn’t realize just how heartfelt the stories could be. I should probably rewatch it sometime, it’s super underrated.
+HammerMC I think you're right. I think it's also difficult to draw wrists that look right, because if the join between the arm and the hand does not look right, then people will notice. Putting gloves on the character gives the animator some leeway: if it doesn't look perfect, we interpret it as simply being the shape of the glove.
tradition1 That's part of why those loose shapes were introduced in the first place. It's like how the narrator in the video described the idea behind the more noodle esque figures in characters.
I always thought "that thing" on Daffy's neck was just his coloring, as ducks can have some rather interesting color markings and I have never seen an all-black duck anyway. Also, I had assumed birds didn't wear gloves because they were technically "wings", not "arms", their feathers being their "fingers" kind of a visual representation. I know they're shaped and structured his actual hands, I just thought that might be the concept behind it, the difference being they were wings, while those with more actual "arms" or "front legs made into arms" would warrant gloves while wings might not. Just a theory, though.
@@ahabduennschitz7670 At 4:30, they begin talking about bird characters and question why they don't wear gloves like Mickey Mouse and such characters do. I was talking about that section. Related, notice how despite Goofy, Mickey and Minnie all wear gloves, Donald does not.
I think the main reason for using gloves, in cartoons and in vaudeville, was because it made it easier for the audience to see where their hands were and what their hands were doing.
i also assumed it had to do with because a person dressed in black face is impersonating a black person and therefore would have black hands, so a white person would have to cover up their white hands. just a theory though, i didn't look it up.
I think that's a big reason along with making the hands 'generic' across all creatures. That is, they can do things like human hands without looking too much like human hands.
They said that RIGHT IN THE VIDEO that just so happened to be to tell you why they wore gloves. So either you didn't watch the video or you just want to seem like a know it all.
vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/toontown/images/b/b0/Fisherman_punchy.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/200?cb=20110319013250 Wings isn't an excuse.
I always thought they were meant to represent the natural markings of a male mallard, although he's not quite a mallard either... They may have been a bit unspecific about exact duck specie, but I still think its based on the mallards markings
I'm pretty sure chokers were a thing before goth kids started wearing them, if that's what you're suggesting. They've just gone in and out of style over the years.
Is this parody? I've genuinely lost the ability to tell anymore... :( (If it wasn't, I don't think it was an attempt to besmirch Mickey as a racist as to highlight one of the possible causes of gloves as the blackface performers in vaudeville, since both comics and cartoons can trace their roots back to vaudeville, though of course it extends further back than that. I can understand why someone would think that way, but given that they didn't actually use any words like good or bad or racism or bigotry, I think they were just trying to include all possible explanations for the gloves. I hope this doesn't tear us apart fam lol. It's really great seeing you in the comments sections in unexpected places every so often. Please don't hate me...)
@@steelpump100 Actually, it's been shown that the first Japanese manga and anime of the past were originally inspired by American cartoons, so Disney basically helped inspire manga, which in turn influenced game companies.
@@steelpump100 Did... _did you just call Sonic a Nintendo character?_ o_0 And for the record, Sonic's classic design (before they remodeled him for 3D games around 1998 or so) is *clearly rubber hose inspired* (like 1:20). ...Unless you were referring to the fact that *Mario* wears gloves too...
@@ChaosRayZero Mario is way more popular than sonic, so yes. I never mentioned sonic at all, i was simply talking about how Nintendo hopped on the trend of gloves when Disney did it. Never mentioned sonic
@@steelpump100 Sorry for the confusion, I was operating on the logic that your comment was a direct response to the one you replied to. *The original comment mentioned Sonic* wearing gloves, and then you said "Nintendo just hopped on the trend," and it sounded like that was supposed to be an explanation. I misunderstood. My bad! 😅
Gloves serve two primary purposes. They allow characters with black bodies to have their hands visible when their hands are in front of them, and they draw emphasis to the the expressions of the hands. The emphasis on expression is the same reason why mimes paint their faces white. Simple as that.
Put gloves is basically drawing a white hand...it doesn't make it easier...it's more of a style and so you can see the hands when the hand is in front of their black bodies.
Theory: The birds don't wear gloves because they don't have "amrs" per se. They have wings. Giving Daffy gloves would make him look like a weird quadruped with a beak.
Exactly. A bird wearing gloves would seem strange because real birds don't have fingers (neither do cows for that matter, but Disney seems to have dropped the anthropomorphic cow idea). Donald duck has white feathers; he doesn't wear gloves either.
Cartoon characters only wear gloves in American cartoons, so the "hands are hard to draw" argument doesn't work. The "minstrel" argument is much more likely. It was easy to blacken the face, as it doesn't come into contact with objects on stage. Any black paint on the hands, however, will immediately come off. So actors had to wear gloves instead.
the conclusion that "since it only happened in america the argument doesn't work" doesn't follow. It's like saying "spoons can't exist to make eating small food like rice easier, given asians use chopsticks, so there must be another reason", no, there really mustn't. While there exists plausibility to minstrel shows giving inspiration, the fact that it ** easier and clearer to draw gloves for characters without clear edge lines is far more likely to be what standardized the practice beyond "I want to keep making caricatures of black people".
The four fingers instead of five fingers on cartoon hands originated from 1920s and 1930s animators not having to take too much time drawing the hands. Drawing hands required as much attention and detail as drawing faces. So, drawing four fingers saved a little time in doing an animated character.
Technically it's 3 fingers and a thumb and it was just easier to articulate the hands in motion with only 3 fingers. (without losing the human appearance or making them seem too human) Genius...
@@invincisibility1306 Bobby is a character from The Goofy Movie (1995) and An Extremely Goofy Movie (2000) and in the sequel Bobby asks why they always wear gloves and he hasn't been seen in a Disney production since
CraveQube To make him more recognizable. When you look at a comic you can in an instant see which character your looking at and so is the case with Mickey Mouse as well.
I think the book about Walt Disney's autobiography or whatever was gonna say something about the number of fingers if you're interested. It's probably to make them human-like, but not actually human.
Before I even knew what breaking the fourth wall was, I knew Bobby was totally breaking it cause he showed us he was indeed aware of his own glove-user nature
You gotta face those challenges head on, draw a bunch of hands, be sure to draw the wrist and even a bit of the arm as well, to be sure you know how to connect them to the body, look at reference, you dont have to copy it, its more like a ruler, you can use it to make things accurate, or you can use it to check your accuracy and fix things, so grab a bunch of ref from all angles and positions and study up. You may feel like your bad but its nice knowing you can, and you can, drawing is just putting the right lines in the right place, you just have to know what lines in what places, the rest is up to muscle memory.
Kyle Mac That's not what they said. They said the entire animation style has roots in minstrel performances. Which is a fact. A lot of American entertainment back then was racist. Would you prefer if they ignored that part?
Kyle Mac Are you really that dim you couldn't understand the video? The gloves themselves are not "racist" but the entire animation style has many roots and references in vaudeville/minstrel performances. This video is not complaining or saying "stop putting gloves on cartoons because it's racist" it's just painting a full picture historically.
I just scrolled down the comment section for nearly 30 damn minutes looking for someone else that caught this... does nobody else notice that when she's talking about The Band Concert she says "it's from 1935" then she says "60 years later, Goofy takes off his gloves before getting in a pool..." and the year the film that goofy was taking off his gloves in was only from was 1939?
Many animated birds don't use gloves because, well... they are birds, those are not even paws, those are wings and feathers being used as hands. And that thing around Daffy Duck's neck are white feathers present in the males of some species of mallards (wild ducks, those that are hunted on season).
They're not. You're just watching a Vox video so everything is racism. lol I have a degree in animation, I literally sat through history of animation for entire semesters. 10 years ago, this concept would have been nonsense. But it's just popular to inject racism into everything these days.
Hadrien100 He is still a cartoon and it gave a nice traditional animated touch to his character. He now actually would look weird with no gloves all of a sudden.
+Brandon Baker Wearing gloves doesn't work if their arms are supposed to be their wings, not only is the mental image of a bird sticking a pair of gloves at the end of their wings kind of weird but if the animators wanted their bird characters to use their wings as actual wings they would suddenly need to get rid of the gloves they are wearing.
pyrrhichos I'm 13 and I know alot from the past.. meaning: I know what a VHS is...i actually used to have some...my friends don't really know what that is and I'm like: Really?
Because they make interesting journalistic content while also fostering an audience. Go back to watching PewDiePie if you're looking for mindless drivel.
Pladimir Vutin Yes, but Uncle Remus was a slave. Disney portrayed him as a happy old slave who gladly told stories to all the boys and girls of all colors. Back then in a time where slavery had just ended and rights were being earned, that kind of imagery using characters from slave/african stories was offensive. Slaves were not happy. Uncle Remus was a slap to the face to the newly freed. Oh, and have you heard Brer Rabbit, Brer Bear, and Brer Fox talk? That it a WHOLE 'nother ball game right them. They even made a book with the stories, and the words were written in the same "accent" slaves used back in the day. Needless to say, it was near impossible to read without stopping ever two seconds. There were also racist moments occasionally, but I think those came from the original stories? EITHER WAY, making that film in that time was the worst thing Disney could have ever done, and that movie has been in the vault ever since. It is something Disney wishes to bury. It was racist. There's no way around it.
Oh jeez. There is, quite actually, a Mickey Mouse cartoon where the lights go out and all that's visible is Mickey's hands and face so he immediately starts doing an Al Jolson impersonation (as ya do). There's absolutely a minstrel show tie in. Perhaps the gloves persisted because they make hands easier to see, and nobody's saying that people who watch cartoons where the characters are wearing gloves are racist for doing so... is it really going to kill anyone to simply acknowledge the FACT that a racist tradition was very influential in early cartoons?
Lean thinking isnt thinking lean its thinking leaner and leaner again and again. It's a process of simplification. In the result it creates is unique at every level.
Its not even white guilt. Like... its part of history. To omit it is riduculous. This video wasn't even biased or race baiting it was just... information. The black face actors wore gloves. Relax
Lord Maximus no its not guilt because we didn't do it. We don't have to take responsibility for something done years ago just because we have the same skin color as that person. Thats grouping all white people together and calling them slave owners. Racism is a sad thing so we cry over it.. people have emotions? wow.
Mandela Effect: Tinkerbell is no where in the old Disney Intros. I remember her flying over, creating the rainbow with pixie dust and dotting the 'I'. She is no where to be seen
Vox... Thank you for making my quarantine interesting. I literally work and have you running on shuffle in the background. I swear, I learn some of the most obscure but completely dopest facts.
After hand surgery three years ago on both hands, I wear gloves because it helps control the sensitivity when I am driving. It rather hurts my hands to drive. When the weather is warm, I still wear gloves for the added padding. It seems police officers do not like me to be wearing gloves when I drive during warm times. The few times I was stopped, after I started driving again, the police officers always ask me why I am wearing gloves. I take off the gloves and show the surgical scars. They then make up some reason why they stopped me and just let me off on a warning. I genuinely believe they stopped me because I was wearing gloves during warm weather and maybe they believed the vehicle stolen. Maybe cartoon characters wear gloves because they had hand surgery.
For no reason just save 5 min. So Why ?: because it's easier to draw the rounded curved gloved hands than hands with too many details like knuckles, it adds color contrast to see their hands more easily , it humanizes the character more since they're animals doing human things and also because of the time of vaudeville and minstrel black face performances were popular at the time too and they also wore gloves for more visibility
I figured that it meant you could easily animate the gloves on a separate cell layer without having to redraw the arms and reducing the precision necessary for them to match up.
Bird characters probably don't wear glowe, because they have feathers. Some of them fly so it would be weird for them to wear gloves what would make flying impossible. My quess.
He's correct, though. Bird cartoons characters like Tweety or Daffy occasionally have to fly around in their cartoons, and for those sequences their "hands" morph into wings while they're flapping them. It would look really unnatural for the gloves to appear and disappear from the character models for these actions, so the animators just leave them off.
"Why do you wear that thing around your neck?" - Bugs to a very petty duck I thought that was supposed to be a natural marking - i.e. variation on Daffy's plumage
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Well i mean they can't leave fingerprints at the murders they comit
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@@Kelpflakes ok. But still this isnt reddit. The whole "r/woooooosh" is annoying. Just say it was a joke no need to say "r/woooooooosh" because it makes things more complicated
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I went to Disney and asked Mickey that question. He says it makes him look stylish.
Lol
Im surprised you could hear "Mickey" through all that material
Well he is the mascot of Disney? I would ask him.
@@optimisticwhovian1726 Actually, none of the costumed characters at Disney are allowed to "talk", they simply learn how to act in the costume and pantomime with an uncostumed Disney cast member helping interpret. This isn't a thing for human characters like, say, Mary Poppins or Aladdin.
Yes I do know that....it was a joke......@@ThePhantomSafetyPin
“Five fingers looked like too much on such a little figure, so we took one away. That was just one less finger to animate”
That book just answered my 2nd burning question
Nintendo: why not remove them all
I ruined the 555 likes 😈😈
Fun fact: The Blue Meanies from the animated Beatles movie “Yellow Submarine” are deliberately drawn with SIX fingers on each hand as sort of a jab at this convention. Instead of taking away one finger, let’s add TWO more!
And here, we were lied by parents when we were little that we can't draw full fingers on drawing, or they will come to life. 'That's why cartoon got 4 fingers' 😭
@Xavier Phillips Why?
So they won't get infected by the coronavirus
Lol, you beat to it.
Ok
So accurate!
@@liam-man7265 Ok
lolololol
Vox is the kind of channel that gives u questions that u never think abt and answers them for u but it never gets boring
They do leave a lot of answers open to interpretation also...
I like their series on Netflix. Explained
@@seanceknowles2911 what’s its about?
@@seanceknowles2911 ok I will
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0:37 I swear the sound comes from the top half, not the bottom.
you are right the top is the earpiece
Yeah u speak into the bottom half I thought 🤔
Maybe it's upside down 😂😂
@@bbei4216 normally not because the wire is on the bottom half
RIGHT! Lol
I always thought that the cartoon birds didn't wear gloves because the fingers are technically their feathers taking shape of hands and fingers... as opposed to having paws.
gixG17 your from 2018 right do you notice the ia ketle like' cuphead grandfather
I thought bc it would block them from flying😂
That's right, it's because birds don't have hands
But Donald doesnt wear gloves
@Nothing in Particular what? No. Maybe in the older ones but Not in the new ones
“Why do you wear that thing around your neck?”
ROASTED
Maybe his neck gets cold because he lost feathers on his neck.
@Drew Taylor what’s the backstory
@Drew Taylor oh wow that's cool, and sad at the same time
@Drew Taylor Whoa, I remember the 2012 Loony Toons Show being pretty good, but I didn’t realize just how heartfelt the stories could be. I should probably rewatch it sometime, it’s super underrated.
My original thought after reading the title was, "Because drawing hands is seriously difficult."
Yeet
Being able to properly draw hands with good proportions and joint movements is actually extremely hard.
+HammerMC
I think you're right. I think it's also difficult to draw wrists that look right, because if the join between the arm and the hand does not look right, then people will notice. Putting gloves on the character gives the animator some leeway: if it doesn't look perfect, we interpret it as simply being the shape of the glove.
tradition1 That's part of why those loose shapes were introduced in the first place. It's like how the narrator in the video described the idea behind the more noodle esque figures in characters.
Yes, that was my first thought
Now you see why four fingers came into vogue!
Okay, but what we really needa be asking is does Mike Wazowski blink or wink?
ung loco I think he blinks. He can't wink.
I guess to wink he'd need to have an eye twitch.
ung loco To wink he just closes half of his eyelid
ung loco blinking is closing 100% of your eyes and winking is closing 50% of your eyes so mile wasowski blinks
GivenName Surname then what is it when a monster with four eyes only closes one?
*Mickey Mouse is a non-human, doing very human things* 2:26 *He looks at the camera* Why am I suddenly afraid and sense danger??? 🤔
Because HE IS A CLOWN
I read this as they said it.
I am not throwing away my S H o T
I mean alot of pedophiles do things associated with Disney (like having a Mickey mouse tatt)
Nooooo Mickey is the king don’t be afraid 😭😞
I always thought "that thing" on Daffy's neck was just his coloring, as ducks can have some rather interesting color markings and I have never seen an all-black duck anyway. Also, I had assumed birds didn't wear gloves because they were technically "wings", not "arms", their feathers being their "fingers" kind of a visual representation. I know they're shaped and structured his actual hands, I just thought that might be the concept behind it, the difference being they were wings, while those with more actual "arms" or "front legs made into arms" would warrant gloves while wings might not.
Just a theory, though.
You're correct about Daffy's neck. I think that might have been the punchline of that scene.
@@dinohall2595 Nah, he's a priest.
It's probably because Daffy's design is based of a Malard which is a species of duck that has a ring around their neck.
Sooo... Mickey MOUSE is considered a Bird for you?
Ok then
@@ahabduennschitz7670 At 4:30, they begin talking about bird characters and question why they don't wear gloves like Mickey Mouse and such characters do. I was talking about that section. Related, notice how despite Goofy, Mickey and Minnie all wear gloves, Donald does not.
Wow, I wasn't prepared to see Bugs without his gloves on.
THE WORLD WAS NOT READY!
lol
ikr
I also wasn't prepared for goofy as well.
I never noticed the gloves on bugs bunny. I may be part of some kind of minority.
I saw the episode
I think the main reason for using gloves, in cartoons and in vaudeville, was because it made it easier for the audience to see where their hands were and what their hands were doing.
i also assumed it had to do with because a person dressed in black face is impersonating a black person and therefore would have black hands, so a white person would have to cover up their white hands. just a theory though, i didn't look it up.
I think that's a big reason along with making the hands 'generic' across all creatures. That is, they can do things like human hands without looking too much like human hands.
stevo728822 Your conclusion sounds so much more reasonable.
What an odd comment, lol.
They said that RIGHT IN THE VIDEO that just so happened to be to tell you why they wore gloves. So either you didn't watch the video or you just want to seem like a know it all.
"why dont the birds wear any gloves"
*Looks at wings*
prospectus or do they???????
vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/toontown/images/b/b0/Fisherman_punchy.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/200?cb=20110319013250
Wings isn't an excuse.
I thought that link was some crazy hard hitting evidence, but turned out to look like a meme haha
CurlsOfDbrave not in that way! Bc their wings r shaped like hands. So why not put some gloves on!? IDK
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Disney: We gave them gloves to make animating their hands easier
VeggieTales: What if they just didn't have hands
Daffy Duck been wearing chokers before chokers were even a thing
I always thought they were meant to represent the natural markings of a male mallard, although he's not quite a mallard either... They may have been a bit unspecific about exact duck specie, but I still think its based on the mallards markings
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I'm pretty sure chokers were a thing before goth kids started wearing them, if that's what you're suggesting. They've just gone in and out of style over the years.
Chokers were used to tell prostitutes from common women in the 18th century
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How did they make Mickey racist if that is a part of its history?
The linked early animation back to blackface, which is still an active area of controversy today.
Is this parody? I've genuinely lost the ability to tell anymore...
:(
(If it wasn't, I don't think it was an attempt to besmirch Mickey as a racist as to highlight one of the possible causes of gloves as the blackface performers in vaudeville, since both comics and cartoons can trace their roots back to vaudeville, though of course it extends further back than that.
I can understand why someone would think that way, but given that they didn't actually use any words like good or bad or racism or bigotry, I think they were just trying to include all possible explanations for the gloves. I hope this doesn't tear us apart fam lol. It's really great seeing you in the comments sections in unexpected places every so often. Please don't hate me...)
Let's be real people, Daffy Duck brought back the choker.
Alice In Salt Land daffy started the trend
He was the trend setter
Need me a freak like Daffy Duck.
I chokED
Captain Doomsday hot
Vox: *Shows nearly every iconic character with gloves*
Sonic The Hedgehog: *am I nothing to you?*
It's cartoon characters and more toward Disney...but I think Nintendo just hopped on the trend
@@steelpump100 Actually, it's been shown that the first Japanese manga and anime of the past were originally inspired by American cartoons, so Disney basically helped inspire manga, which in turn influenced game companies.
@@steelpump100 Did... _did you just call Sonic a Nintendo character?_ o_0
And for the record, Sonic's classic design (before they remodeled him for 3D games around 1998 or so) is *clearly rubber hose inspired* (like 1:20).
...Unless you were referring to the fact that *Mario* wears gloves too...
@@ChaosRayZero Mario is way more popular than sonic, so yes. I never mentioned sonic at all, i was simply talking about how Nintendo hopped on the trend of gloves when Disney did it. Never mentioned sonic
@@steelpump100 Sorry for the confusion, I was operating on the logic that your comment was a direct response to the one you replied to.
*The original comment mentioned Sonic* wearing gloves, and then you said "Nintendo just hopped on the trend," and it sounded like that was supposed to be an explanation. I misunderstood. My bad! 😅
Gloves serve two primary purposes. They allow characters with black bodies to have their hands visible when their hands are in front of them, and they draw emphasis to the the expressions of the hands. The emphasis on expression is the same reason why mimes paint their faces white. Simple as that.
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Disney characters are in white face
Most of them but not all of them.
birds didn't have gloves because they have wings. imagine daffy flying and 2 weird glove hands were on the end of his wings
Tyler C exactly! no paws to convert to hands
Woody Woodpecker is an exception though, since he too is a bird, yet we don't see him fly.
true, completely forgot about Woody
but daffy is a duck.. ducks can't fly xP
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@@forkspoonington9208 it will be missed
Why they wear gloves
2019: cuz they’re hard to draw
2020: cuz it’s corona time
Im ur 90 like
Put gloves is basically drawing a white hand...it doesn't make it easier...it's more of a style and so you can see the hands when the hand is in front of their black bodies.
Mario and Sonic wears Gloves
mario's a plumber, probably doesn't wanna get shitwater all over his bare hands
haha
El Mustufa Shigeru Miyamoto has started that he gets inspired a lot by Disney. So that's probably why.
El Mustufa and yet Link does not.
Noah Peter he's also a plumber
Theory:
The birds don't wear gloves because they don't have "amrs" per se. They have wings. Giving Daffy gloves would make him look like a weird quadruped with a beak.
So a platypus
Why does he have that thing around his neck?
@@TheInkPitOx that's just a ring of white feathers. Lots ducks have it
Woody woodpecker wears gloves
Donald is a duck and duck is a bird
Cause the bird hands are wings!!!
xala r so are Donald Duck's
he got his feathers clipped
Also Daffy
Exactly. A bird wearing gloves would seem strange because real birds don't have fingers (neither do cows for that matter, but Disney seems to have dropped the anthropomorphic cow idea). Donald duck has white feathers; he doesn't wear gloves either.
Donald Duck doesn't wear gloves.
This was great. Now do one about why old cartoon characters had shiny eyelids.
Pre internet trends
@@ascorbicpng light reflecting off eyelids?
people still do it currently lol
To give them pop. Just aesthetically pleasing. At least that’s one of the reasons
Because eyeshadow at the time was applied with grease and cartoons are done up like actors. It wouldn't have seemed odd to audiences at the time.
Birds don’t wear gloves cause their arms are actually wings and their fingers are actually feathers, it would be hard to fly with gloves on your wings
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Woody Woodpecker wears gloves.
Goofy without gloves was weird as hell o.o
Feathers ikr
hell is more weird i think like 100% sure
how?
Feathers ikr
Lol ikr
Micky mouse is a mouse doing very human things
me: *sweating intensely*
And thats how furrys were made
Finally someone who agre-
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@@damarymoreno3124 "you are comment is very underrated"
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Love how some of the characters sometimes address it themselves. Breaking the 4th wall full on haha
A. So they won't get their hands dirty.
B. Hands are hard to draw.
C. So they won't leave a fingerprint after murdered someone.
D. All of the above.
Wait where did mickey go?
*goofy hides hands*
yes
C. ...In case dey moiduh somebuddy.
If it's 1930, then B is correct.
If it's 1999, then C is correct.
Vox: **makes yet another good video**
Conservatives: How can I make this about me tho?
So true
honestly haven't seen any conservatives try to make it about themselves...
Wrong
You mean Liberals not Conservatives.
By bringing race into an animation. You lose again Pierre, you lose again.
Why Goofy is a human dog and Pluto just a regular dog?
Also, Goofy and Pluto arent the same because it's a cartoon and someone wanted it that way.
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Cartoon characters only wear gloves in American cartoons, so the "hands are hard to draw" argument doesn't work.
The "minstrel" argument is much more likely. It was easy to blacken the face, as it doesn't come into contact with objects on stage. Any black paint on the hands, however, will immediately come off. So actors had to wear gloves instead.
Sounds plausible.
as an animator, it would make sense to draw gloves. Saves so much time.
@@benstern310 it's deffo the minstrel one, animation in america started off depicting black people
@@daftbanna7202 well as an animator from the UK was more for time saving and to stop the hands blending into the body. Sonic has this as well.
the conclusion that "since it only happened in america the argument doesn't work" doesn't follow. It's like saying "spoons can't exist to make eating small food like rice easier, given asians use chopsticks, so there must be another reason", no, there really mustn't.
While there exists plausibility to minstrel shows giving inspiration, the fact that it ** easier and clearer to draw gloves for characters without clear edge lines is far more likely to be what standardized the practice beyond "I want to keep making caricatures of black people".
Now explain the four fingers
It's at 2:38 below the highlighted text.
Oh, thanks observant human
MrFlippy Music That answered another age-old question.
The four fingers instead of five fingers on cartoon hands originated from 1920s and 1930s animators not having to take too much time drawing the hands. Drawing hands required as much attention and detail as drawing faces. So, drawing four fingers saved a little time in doing an animated character.
Technically it's 3 fingers and a thumb and it was just easier to articulate the hands in motion with only 3 fingers. (without losing the human appearance or making them seem too human) Genius...
I imagine goofy's bare hand feels weird as heck to touch...
i dont understand why they didnt make it black...the hand itself was only going to be out for a second.
And mickey invented the booty shorts
Ya mean weird as HUCK
Tony Juarez omg you're right.
Tummywubs dd
Be careful, Bobby asked why they wore gloves ONCE and we never saw him again
Whaaat??
Bobby who
X-Files theme music inserts.
@@invincisibility1306 Bobby is a character from The Goofy Movie (1995) and An Extremely Goofy Movie (2000) and in the sequel Bobby asks why they always wear gloves and he hasn't been seen in a Disney production since
@@birb.lma0 hmmm i wooonder why
Why do Mickey's ears always face the viewer?
CraveQube beacuse it's not a 3d animation.
CraveQube Walt I believe wanted his ears visable at all times
CraveQube To make him more recognizable. When you look at a comic you can in an instant see which character your looking at and so is the case with Mickey Mouse as well.
it was more complecated to animate
Because Disney is always listening to us.
how about why they only have 4 fingers instead of 5.??
I think the book about Walt Disney's autobiography or whatever was gonna say something about the number of fingers if you're interested. It's probably to make them human-like, but not actually human.
i could wrong but to save money? Time?
tchevrier that is also because of racism
3 fingers and a thumb
Since white people that aren't jews only have 4 fingers.
"There is nothing funnier than the Human Animal." ~Walt Disney
SegaDisneyUniverse Walt was a bigot
And nothing scarier than the animal human
The man was smart..as humans,we can be controlled..like an animal...👍👏🏻
And thats how furry's were made.
Before I even knew what breaking the fourth wall was, I knew Bobby was totally breaking it cause he showed us he was indeed aware of his own glove-user nature
When I draw people, I always have their hands behind their backs because I always fail at doing hands... 😂
Lol same
Make boxes (or cylinders) for fingers, then connect the edges.
You gotta face those challenges head on, draw a bunch of hands, be sure to draw the wrist and even a bit of the arm as well, to be sure you know how to connect them to the body, look at reference, you dont have to copy it, its more like a ruler, you can use it to make things accurate, or you can use it to check your accuracy and fix things, so grab a bunch of ref from all angles and positions and study up.
You may feel like your bad but its nice knowing you can, and you can, drawing is just putting the right lines in the right place, you just have to know what lines in what places, the rest is up to muscle memory.
Sammeeee
same
Cause there hands are cold
Emporer Swegmester their
or protect themselves from germs
Emporer Swegmester *Their
Emporer Swegmester cause they have snakes under there! 😱
Killers reference?
I'm impressed. It took over 3 minutes before they said that gloves are racist.
Kyle Mac
That's not what they said. They said the entire animation style has roots in minstrel performances. Which is a fact. A lot of American entertainment back then was racist. Would you prefer if they ignored that part?
Was it in any way relevant? Nope.
Kyle Mac The title of the video is "why cartoon characters wear gloves" this is one if the reasons = relevant
So are the gloves racist or not? If they aren't racist, the blackface stuff is irrelevant. If they are racist then my point stands.
Kyle Mac
Are you really that dim you couldn't understand the video? The gloves themselves are not "racist" but the entire animation style has many roots and references in vaudeville/minstrel performances. This video is not complaining or saying "stop putting gloves on cartoons because it's racist" it's just painting a full picture historically.
4:40 Daffy Duck wears that "thing" around the neck because he is a mallard duck.
0:17 Do You Always Know Why We're Like.. Wearing Gloves?
Natascia Riccieri Made me lol out loud for real. I had no idea the direct to video sequel to a goofy movie was actually good.
,
He broke 4th wall. And he was never seen again
Wonder*
Krystal, you laughed out loud... out loud?
Finally a video that isn't about Trump or the political US
Wrong, it talks about how Mickey Mouse is racist.
Matt Smith It most definitely doesn't.
don't worry. The comment section will fix that dilemma.
just about the false race narrative.
I wish it were false lol
I just scrolled down the comment section for nearly 30 damn minutes looking for someone else that caught this... does nobody else notice that when she's talking about The Band Concert she says "it's from 1935" then she says "60 years later, Goofy takes off his gloves before getting in a pool..." and the year the film that goofy was taking off his gloves in was only from was 1939?
gabriel martinez I saw that yup.
Perhaps she meant "6 years later" and made a typo? Just sayin. (and yes, I know, 6 years after 1935 is 1941.)
Maybe it should have been 60 MONTHS?
Yeah, it's wrecking my head!
Maybe the film's year was written wrong...? But probably not cause it doesn't really look like 90s Disney animation but just a guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1:41: " Help me Stepbro im stuck!!! "
NOOOOOOOOOOO
cursed
Popeye: *kyukyukyukyuk*
Many animated birds don't use gloves because, well... they are birds, those are not even paws, those are wings and feathers being used as hands. And that thing around Daffy Duck's neck are white feathers present in the males of some species of mallards (wild ducks, those that are hunted on season).
It also, like Fred Flintstone's tie, provides a cut-off point so that different head-angles can be placed without worrying about matching.
tom dL I remember Daffy actually taking the white band off one time so... it's a joke
no its because he wants to because hes loony, just let our childhoods be.... who hurt you.
tom dL noo. daffy duck is just stylish and knows how to rock a choker
tom dL Woody Woodpecker wears gloves.
They learned from O.J.
???????
zokkolo corny
zokkolo Orange juice
Hehehehehe 🌚
Loc?
Next let's try and figure out what the hell happened to the cartoons of today.. because they won't ever compare to the older ones
TITA & MEEKIE preach 🙏🏻
Travis Watson of
They all went to hell after 'Ren & Stimpy'.
Robo9400 And Chowder
Robo9400 gravity falls
Early cartoon characters are, in fact, racist minstrels. Mind. Blown.
I had no idea
They're not. You're just watching a Vox video so everything is racism. lol
I have a degree in animation, I literally sat through history of animation for entire semesters. 10 years ago, this concept would have been nonsense. But it's just popular to inject racism into everything these days.
@@SeraphsWitness Thanks for this. Does it have something to do with contrast and how colours appear on-screen?
Was waiting for when racism was going to come up, wasn't disappointed
DJ WÁLTÓÁRAM frrr
True
This is Vox, after all
RianeBane but what if part of the answer does involve racism?
@@alexanderchristopher6237 I didn't say it didn't.
So Mario isn't a human ?!
You can tell their non-human with four fingers and Mario has 5.
LOL the gloves are for all his dirty plumbing...
Hadrien100 He is still a cartoon and it gave a nice traditional animated touch to his character. He now actually would look weird with no gloves all of a sudden.
shirtless mario from super mario oddyessy doesn't wear gloves
He's supposed to work on toilets
It's pretty obvious that bird characters don't wear gloves because their arms are supposed to be their wings.
Donald Duck doesn't wear gloves.
austin m You just played yourself
that explains nothing.
J4hk2 but mice normally wear gloves?
+Brandon Baker
Wearing gloves doesn't work if their arms are supposed to be their wings, not only is the mental image of a bird sticking a pair of gloves at the end of their wings kind of weird but if the animators wanted their bird characters to use their wings as actual wings they would suddenly need to get rid of the gloves they are wearing.
I always thought that Daffy Duck's white thing around his neck was inspired by how mallards have a white stripe around their neck
"What on earth is a VHS?" - 12 year olds
I'm done
pyrrhichos If a 12 year old doesn't know what a VHS tape is then they're seriously retarded because they still used those until like 2005.
pyrrhichos I'm 13 and I know alot from the past.. meaning: I know what a VHS is...i actually used to have some...my friends don't really know what that is and I'm like: Really?
"'What on earth is a VHS?' - 12 year olds
I'm done" - 13 year olds
BRUH people think we don't know anything from 20 years ago. Everyone in my class knows what a VHS is, most of us have one!
Well as of 2016 they stopped manufacturing VCRs
Do "Why is Vox always trending?"
because they pay youtube look at the trending tab it's all big companies with trash views
savage
Because they make interesting journalistic content while also fostering an audience. Go back to watching PewDiePie if you're looking for mindless drivel.
Oceanrust4 Actually, that's not true, as much as it makes sense. Source: a TH-cam channel consultant named Mathew Patrick, aka Game Theory.
$$$$$
So what we really learned is that daffy duck is a priest?
No, He's a Mallard.
Daphney, the dafney or the daffne
Theory: underneath the gloves are humanly realistic hands
2 fingers are just sharing one finger in the glove...reason for lack of one finger.
I always thought the gloves were their hands smh
Eto_16 same. I think I’ll kept that tho
Eto_16 Lol same
Eto_16 My Mom thought so at first to but I always knew they were gloves, I mean come on,it's obvious
All the day i was confusing why they wear gloves with no reason........ but i was 3 years kid
SAMEE OMG
I wonder where Donny tiny hands buys his gloves 😂😂
....jimmy dore :)
costic85 I wish Jimmy spit on his face. Then again he would probably like a golden shower instead.
Mo Killem bigger hands than obama
nobody look nobody look.
You're projecting.
To those of you complaining that they mentioned racism...have you ever seen song of the south?
THANK YOU. Bout time someone mentioned Uncle Remus.
Pladimir Vutin that doesn't change the fact that it is racist
Pladimir Vutin Yes, but Uncle Remus was a slave. Disney portrayed him as a happy old slave who gladly told stories to all the boys and girls of all colors. Back then in a time where slavery had just ended and rights were being earned, that kind of imagery using characters from slave/african stories was offensive. Slaves were not happy. Uncle Remus was a slap to the face to the newly freed.
Oh, and have you heard Brer Rabbit, Brer Bear, and Brer Fox talk? That it a WHOLE 'nother ball game right them. They even made a book with the stories, and the words were written in the same "accent" slaves used back in the day. Needless to say, it was near impossible to read without stopping ever two seconds. There were also racist moments occasionally, but I think those came from the original stories?
EITHER WAY, making that film in that time was the worst thing Disney could have ever done, and that movie has been in the vault ever since. It is something Disney wishes to bury. It was racist. There's no way around it.
Saturn Star thank you
Oh jeez. There is, quite actually, a Mickey Mouse cartoon where the lights go out and all that's visible is Mickey's hands and face so he immediately starts doing an Al Jolson impersonation (as ya do). There's absolutely a minstrel show tie in. Perhaps the gloves persisted because they make hands easier to see, and nobody's saying that people who watch cartoons where the characters are wearing gloves are racist for doing so... is it really going to kill anyone to simply acknowledge the FACT that a racist tradition was very influential in early cartoons?
Lean thinking isnt thinking lean its thinking leaner and leaner again and again. It's a process of simplification. In the result it creates is unique at every level.
Now, why are female anthropomorphic animals fully clothed when sometimes the males aren't?
the hays code for the most part.
Stupid ass feminist they are ladies they are not exactly the same as males
Ant Games That doesn't answer my question, and it doesn't make me a feminist to want to know why.
To make them look more feminine and sexually appealing
bobs
This video mentioned VHS... in 2017!
Let that sink in for a moment! :)
Mentioning old stuff isn't extraordinary in times that are way far in the future.
Bake me a cake, plz!
Da666ManIsBak No, you're the woman here
It literally says "man" in the username
We do what we must because we can.
Yoo, the thumbnail looks like Mickey's gonna end someone's life with his golf club
Oh boy **laughs in the Last of Us II**
He had to wear gloves for a reason 👀
Hahahahahahahaha underrated
@@SamYArts Yeah lol
Ikr
I watched that movie recently and is the only reason I clicked on this video
Thumbs up, if you are old enough to have used videotapes.
Jon Doe I'm
I'm old enough to remember when nobody ever dreamed that someday we would have something called a VCR hooked up to our televisions😁
Lol i am xD 😂 i still own a few VHS movies to this day xD
@@j.d.leslie8458 * gives arthritic fist bump *
I am
TLDR: Hands are hard to draw.
im a 2d and 3d animatior, and to me its hard to make gloves lel
I feel like you guys actively omit the truth
you read videos?
I mean masterhand from Super Smash Bros is just a big glove
Ryan Harkness lmao tru
So what would happen if it wore several gloves on each digit? And then on the gloves, and so on?
*_WOULD IT BE TOO MUCH GLOVE?_*
Sonicfan1661 I glove this comment.
I'll just show myself the door
Mr. Porg I hope your glove gets caught in a door.
Sonicfan1661 Rude
4:25
Vox: Daffy Duck and other animated birds don't wear gloves
Woody Woodpecker: Am I a joke to you?
because finger anatomy takes so damn much time to get right
will cartoon donald trump have very tiny gloves?!
they said only characters that acted like HUMANS wear gloves
Why do some Americans cry when box mentioned racism?
Anonymous Killer Destroyer it's called white guilt.
Its not even white guilt. Like... its part of history. To omit it is riduculous. This video wasn't even biased or race baiting it was just... information. The black face actors wore gloves. Relax
Lord Maximus It's not even guilt though, people are offended at the idea of racism. Guilt would be a step up.
They want to whitewash history!
Lord Maximus no its not guilt because we didn't do it. We don't have to take responsibility for something done years ago just because we have the same skin color as that person. Thats grouping all white people together and calling them slave owners. Racism is a sad thing so we cry over it.. people have emotions? wow.
4:34 Sequel to this video: Why does Daffy Duck wear that thing around his neck?
I guess that answers the question about what Goofy is suppose to be...
Goofy's a dog.
A tall, lanky imbecile.
Sounds like a stereotype if ever heard one.
He's an anthropomorphic dog, meaning a dog with human characteristics
thejobloshow Accurate
The real question is why is Goofy a human dog, but Pluto is just a regular dog.
the legend27 never wears gloves
oh yeah its always a legend27 joke, real origin....wait, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT!?!
قناة ماهر - maher chan
Stfu ماهر - maher channel
Vox asking the real questions
4:04
I'll never get used to these animal years...in 1935, Clarabelle Cow gets her glove stuck in a flute...Goofy, in 1939, is 60 years later?!?
Welp, the guy who chugs cheeze whiz broke the 4th wall.
Pauly shore
Cinnamon Roll 5th wall
Mandela Effect: Tinkerbell is no where in the old Disney Intros. I remember her flying over, creating the rainbow with pixie dust and dotting the 'I'. She is no where to be seen
holy f...
AnimationArts! Yes that is evidence there was a Tinkerbell doing the same thing with the classic Disney logo.
Zhou Xuanyao No.
Wasn't that only on like Peter Pan movies or like Disney Channel? not on other related movies tho I'm sure.
Cute Doggo In my memory, no
For the longest time...I thought those gloves were their actual hands. 🤚
Same
Vox... Thank you for making my quarantine interesting. I literally work and have you running on shuffle in the background. I swear, I learn some of the most obscure but completely dopest facts.
Me at 3am sees the video:
I dont need sleep, I need answers!
So curios
"That's a damn good question Bobby" xD LMFAO
k
k
the bird guy should have said "because if i dont...*takes it off* *head falls off*"
jeez youtube
Sqiggly lines Daffy Duck*
Did you really call Daffy Duck "the bird guy".. what kind of childhood did you have?
Swedits lmao
T H E B I R D G U Y
Theory: After the Spanish Flu, people became more germophobic and it became normal for people to wear gloves.
After hand surgery three years ago on both hands, I wear gloves because it helps control the sensitivity when I am driving. It rather hurts my hands to drive. When the weather is warm, I still wear gloves for the added padding. It seems police officers do not like me to be wearing gloves when I drive during warm times. The few times I was stopped, after I started driving again, the police officers always ask me why I am wearing gloves. I take off the gloves and show the surgical scars. They then make up some reason why they stopped me and just let me off on a warning. I genuinely believe they stopped me because I was wearing gloves during warm weather and maybe they believed the vehicle stolen. Maybe cartoon characters wear gloves because they had hand surgery.
didn’t ask
@@logandunlap9156 its a joke like your existence
Lol what a weird take
Wait, that is a collar around his neck?!
No
No its a ringneck duck
I always thought it was??
No Bugs Bunny was making a joke
It is a choker, he takes it off in one of the episodes
For no reason just save 5 min. So Why ?: because it's easier to draw the rounded curved gloved hands than hands with too many details like knuckles, it adds color contrast to see their hands more easily , it humanizes the character more since they're animals doing human things and also because of the time of vaudeville and minstrel black face performances were popular at the time too and they also wore gloves for more visibility
can confirm this summarizes the entire video
I figured that it meant you could easily animate the gloves on a separate cell layer without having to redraw the arms and reducing the precision necessary for them to match up.
Bird characters probably don't wear glowe, because they have feathers. Some of them fly so it would be weird for them to wear gloves what would make flying impossible.
My quess.
Elsanne J that's the dumbest comment on this ENTIRE thread... WOOOW...
He's correct, though. Bird cartoons characters like Tweety or Daffy occasionally have to fly around in their cartoons, and for those sequences their "hands" morph into wings while they're flapping them. It would look really unnatural for the gloves to appear and disappear from the character models for these actions, so the animators just leave them off.
Wow I made this comment like 5 months ago. (Didn't even remember commenting this)
Just casually cringing here to my beautiful English I had back then.
Elsanne J lol "quess"
Mr. Porg I never remember if you write it with 'q' or 'g'. :p
"Why do you wear that thing around your neck?"
- Bugs to a very petty duck
I thought that was supposed to be a natural marking - i.e. variation on Daffy's plumage
It is. bugs was making a joke
I finally watched this, TH-cam. Are you happy now?
Yep. More coming your way
Yep, More coming your way.
Yep; more coming your way!
Yep: More coming your way?
I broke the chain
Do you ever get recommended TH-cam videos that you watched 1 - 3 years ago and remember them faintly but watch them again as a refresher? Is happens to me all the time!
oh...i thought their hands are ugly so they wear gloves or they dont have any and its floating gloves...
same