Gethsemane: a discussion with Andrew Skinner (week of June 11, only episode)

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  • @crystaldavies9314
    @crystaldavies9314 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd never thought of this before, but as Brother Skinner spoke of the pains and travail of the Savior's suffering having moments of reprieve or pauses, I realized the similarities to women in childbirth. It makes even more sense when coupled with Isaiah's writings and Revelation also.

    • @TheScripturesAreReal
      @TheScripturesAreReal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are sooo right! His suffering is often compared to childbirth for so many reasons (including the joy that comes because of the new life it produced), but I hadn't thought of this aspect before. Thank you!!!!

  • @leslielittle2214
    @leslielittle2214 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think our Heavenly Mother was with our Heavenly Father during this excruciatingly painful time. I feel for her as much as I do our Father.

    • @TheScripturesAreReal
      @TheScripturesAreReal  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree!!!! Of course we know nothing of it, but I can't imagine you are not right. And what pains She must have felt!

  • @barbarajohnson757
    @barbarajohnson757 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm 75 years old and for the first time in my life am the gospel doctrine teacher. I'm so grateful to you both for expanding my understanding! I love you both. 'God Will Prevail' has opened my eyes and ears to all the covenant language in the scriptures and enriched my awareness and understanding of my covenant promises and precious binding power. I was just up visiting my sister and she had a book that I did not, 'Gethsemane'. I read it and ordered a copy of my own. Perfect for my preparation for my 3rd Sunday lesson coming right up!
    Thank you both so much!!!

    • @TheScripturesAreReal
      @TheScripturesAreReal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am so very glad that this has been helpful for you! So glad!!!

  • @evalinavallo5009
    @evalinavallo5009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This podcast was powerful and beautiful!

  • @paulaburt1
    @paulaburt1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for edifying my soul! Again and again!! If you are ever in the Newport Beach Temple, come say hello! I am so grateful for you all! Amazing insights! Thanks again! 💟

    • @TheScripturesAreReal
      @TheScripturesAreReal  ปีที่แล้ว

      I would love to be in Newport Beach sometime! If so I will look for you.

  • @ldrake1256
    @ldrake1256 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your compassionate readings and detailed discussions of the pain which Jesus suffered made His atonement seem more real and much more agonizing than I had ever imagined. Throughout this podcast, both of your thoughtful messages and insights greatly increased my gratitude and love for my Savior.

    • @TheScripturesAreReal
      @TheScripturesAreReal  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nothing could make me happier to hear! I am so, so grateful that together we all come to appreciate and understand His sacrifice better.

  • @JacquelineBritCA
    @JacquelineBritCA ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For years, my husband and I have thought that it made no sense for Peter to have lacked faith outside the palace of the High Priest when only a short time before, he had drawn his sword and attacked when he was so heavily out numbered by armed men even without hearing that some scholars think Jesus commanded Peter to deny him. So it was good to hear Peter defended by Dr. Skinner by talking about what happened in the garden. Instead of running away as did most of the other Apostles, he followed Jesus to the palace and situated himself among a crowd who would have included some of the very men who had gone to the garden to arrest Jesus.
    Part of the problem is that we so often study the scriptures in Sunday School in isolated chunks. I know in past podcasts you, Dr Muhlestein, have made the point of asking what question did Jesus ask and have connected what happened at the end of a chapter to what's going on in the beginning of the next one. Whereas so often we just deal with the parables or statements after the question and treat each chapter as a self-contained unit.
    Thank you for these podcasts - always informative and enlightening.

    • @brendamartin3444
      @brendamartin3444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John and Peter stayed with the Savior all night, John heard the actual words Peter said that night, and according to John, at no time did Peter actually deny Christ; two times Peter was asked if he was a disciple of Christ, and both times he said “I am not”, then once the kinsman of Malchus (the one Peter cut the right ear off of) asked Peter if he was the one he saw cut off his kinsman’s ear in the garden, and Peter says again “I am not”
      Peter denied being himself three times, he never actually denied Christ… I take the account of John over the other writers, because John was actually with Peter all night and heard himself what Peter actually said, the others were not there…
      I love Peter, and have always been hurt by the remarks teachers have made in classes about him as it relates to that night, I am glad to discover others have had the same heart for Peter that I have
      🥰

    • @TheScripturesAreReal
      @TheScripturesAreReal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree! We can make our best sense of this story when we look at everything we know of Peter up to this point.

    • @paulaburt1
      @paulaburt1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brendamartin3444100 agreed!

  • @suebentz5996
    @suebentz5996 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel truly blessed to have listened to you two wonderful men during this episode. So thankful for my savior! The Atonement is real 🌸

  • @paulaburt1
    @paulaburt1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved to see your emotion when you talked about your dad and how much I appreciate your insights about -maybe- Joseph, his earthly father, being the angel that came to stay with Christ. Wow! So touching!

    • @TheScripturesAreReal
      @TheScripturesAreReal  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think sometimes when we put ourselves in their place we either come to understand things better, or we at least understand how it works for us better.

  • @victoriaorme1564
    @victoriaorme1564 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That must have been so painful for Heavenly Father! I appreciate your thoughts on this. I know how hard it hurts my heart when my children hurt.

  • @mygreatestdayever
    @mygreatestdayever ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My soul has been filled. Thank you both for this discussion.

  • @victoriaorme1564
    @victoriaorme1564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love you Brother Skinner.

  • @Redsweater-r1n
    @Redsweater-r1n ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @davidwatson4689
    @davidwatson4689 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Luke 24 has a link to D&C 64:8. We need to be aware of this in our own lives and church callings.

  • @brianpeacock-lc4du
    @brianpeacock-lc4du ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic 👌🙏❤️

  • @cindydavis329
    @cindydavis329 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤❤❤

  • @UtahKent
    @UtahKent ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful discussion. In reference to Mark 14:33, the KJV translation of "...sore amazed..." seems much closer to the Greek than what modern translations like the ESV do with the text in connection with Jesus who was "...distressed and troubled.." at this point. The JST tells us in the equivalent verses 34-36 that it was the disciples that were sore amazed and still wondering if this was the Messiah because in Jewish mythology Messiah wasn't supposed to die. I guess the old original manuscript of Mark (what ever language it was originally composed in) might have lost something in translation or transmission?

    • @TheScripturesAreReal
      @TheScripturesAreReal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You raise a good point. Joseph did shift the amazement to the disciples. But the "terror" aspect doesn't quite seem to fit them. It seems to me that something was being said about the Savior and His disciples, and that we have to read both versions to capture both sets of emotions. I suppose we will have to wait until the next life to find out for sure.

  • @ldrake1256
    @ldrake1256 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I access the show notes for these wonderful episodes

    • @TheScripturesAreReal
      @TheScripturesAreReal  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We don't have much in the way of show notes. What we have you can see in the "description" portion above.

    • @ldrake1256
      @ldrake1256 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheScripturesAreReal That is fine. No worries. Thanks so much for your reply and all that you do.

    • @raymorgan2780
      @raymorgan2780 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Transcript Form Takes Excellent Notes! Aloha🕶️🤙🏾

  • @ScrivenArt
    @ScrivenArt ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t see links in the notes