This is fantastic. Across the world, every nation should simply follow this model to streamline their governments. In this memorable talk, Haley Van Dyck gives a riveting tale of how she and her team are in the process of changing 'face of the Government' in USA. Kudos to her and the team. Highly recommended.
Ah, TED comments. This person demonstrates a problem, describes the solution, and shows tangible/powerful results... But there is a shitstorm in the comments nitpicking over the least significant parts of the talk, and the character of the person. you guys can do better.
There is nothing wrong with a little nitpicking in moderation. Can be fun and silly. But unfortunately there is an epidemic of it in TED comments. It really is a shame, since many TEDsters have actually important stuff to share, and it is getting ignored. I too would like people who attack a video to explain why and then add to the conversation with alternative ideas. Because there are legitimate gripes about TED talks that should be addressed. But when the quantity of gripes rises above a certain threshold, it distracts from the value of the talk. The threshold has been so thoroughly and repeatedly crossed that you even see comments like "I'm only subscribed to watch the shitstorm" (taken from this video). But there are some conscientious commenters as well, and I've had a few good conversations, so I'm not willing to write them off yet.
Okay so the fact that this should have been done over a decade ago is of course a problem, but why is everyone upset with someone standing up and actually doing it. The fact of the matter is, it wasn't done because most people don't care enough to do it. Not to mention that because of it more problems have accumulated over time because of it. This is a wonderful thing. This is what real change looks like, and that's why we should all be striving for
+haxamin TED comments are a cesspool. people hear one stupid comment, stop listening before they get to the solutions and results and rant in the comments. The dislike percentage on TED talks is NOT indicative of the quality.
+Shapookya disliking is an indication that the 'ideas worth sharing' in this video might not be quite TED worthy. I applaud that Haley too the initiative to get the government to update it's IT, but there are millions on consultants that do projects like this on a daily basis, none of the ideas presented here are revolutionary, and certainly not worth a 15 min talk.
That was a completely unnecessarily long talk explaining how the government is just now getting online forms/applications up and running in 2016. Congratulations, you're now doing what the private sector and most public institutions have been doing for over a decade. It's commendable but long overdue.
The government is still light years behind everyone else. Literally. Great speak and message. It is all about meritocracy, have nothing to do with race or gender. The gov first has to realize that, until then, it will not compete with the private sector. The figures of inefficiency are amazing.
weesh ful it's because I like to watch things burn down. I just hope TED doesn't lose all of the credibility it's gained. Lots of the recent (within the past 2 years) videos have been very weak as far as content goes.
Whats with all the negativity on this video? Do we have so little faith in our government that one a woman says it can be better we rant in the comments section?
+Seth Woodard TED commenters have become a cesspool. one of the comments on this very video is "I'm only subscribed to read the shitstorms". on one video someone had a terrifically negative statement about how awful the video was and I asked "did you get past the first 30 seconds?" and they said "no". The percentage of downvotes on a TED video is no longer indicative of the quality of the talk.
weesh ful I never demand moderation or any censorship for that matter. I was just surprised this particular video garnered so many dislikes. I understand the irritation and rants at other TED talks but the negativity surprised me on this specific video.
i do not directly benefit by the work she did but i am fanscinated by the way she talk i want to do something with that much of inspiration and passion
+Anston [Music] It's like you forgot the challenges of the project by the time you got to the end. the problems of failing projects and social inertia were grandiose in scope. there is a huge difference between "this website is slightly easier to use than it was yesterday" and "there is actually a website for this, and I don't have to wait 6 months now".
+David Gonzales Ill take a stab. One, something I dont think most are for this reason, but it stood out for me. She is a sexist, I know seems an odd concept (like black people cant be racist). But the way she emphasizes "she" over and over and over, where it should of been non gender specific, coupled with her odd stat of "over half the workers are women" which... is not something you wish to achieve. Rather getting the best person for the job rather than what genitals you have (and the way she suggested it, seems like genitals played a big part.). But other than that her body language, something is off and I will have to watch it a few times to realize what exactly. Other than that there is a large concern about an private buisness running the government, that giving a group unlimited access, a monopoly is a step in the wrong direction. That this new "startup" seems like a new department (think FBI, homeland, CIA, EPA etc...) with unlimited power, absoloutely no oversight, without elected officials breeds corruption.
+jesse levett i see your point, i dont have the same opinion tho. but anyway, the thing i wanted to say, black people can be racist. Racism is hate/discrimination of other races, so if a black guy hates on a white for being white, thats racism. I needed to say this, i'm sorry :P
Her smile appears kinda fake, like a salesman's smile, and she laughed for no reason as if she was mad. I applaud good government IT-services, but this woman wasn't the best to represent it.
She kinda lost me after glutenfree meals. But while it really should get easier, it also shouldn't be too easy. Sure, it shouldn't take days of and whatnot, but it also should form some kind of barrier where people get incentive to actually start making a living. Now sure not everybody is lazy and not everybody got in the situation they are in now by full control, but i still feel that there shouldn't be an app to get some food stamps. I also like how she lists people who benefit by the service but not simply the working man. But ok. Lastly scrapped projects happens everywhere. Thats not really a big issue (in fact DevOps mostly came around because people need to fail (just fast enough to go from there). Also i still have doubts on how they will actually end up changing things. Because there is a reason why some projects don't work or delay. Not because of the ideas or lack of assets. But simply because politics blocks a lot of stuff like that. Still, for the other items like the 91 form and the likes i think its nice but they weren't that hard were they? Ah well, its progress..
+Malcolm Pagett of course not...if you take it that far out of context. you didn't even record a full sentence. should be: "We don't care about politics, we care about government work better." in context it's clearly talking about political infighting, elections, etc, and putting the focus on making government services more accessible to the people that need them.
+CORZER0 It's allegory for accessibility. Not sure what rock you're under that you missed that. That's not even one of the juicier "she's a basket case" moments, which leads me to believe you're going for the attention fruit just higher than "woman, lol."
I dunno... I guess this is a huge step forwards... but government getting their basic services into a basic level of just being anything fucking usable online... Should have happened at least 15 years ago. And in my experience it's not just federal government, but all 3 levels, and not just online. Even when you try to call them, you get shunted into an automated phone system that gives you 7 menu options within 7 menu options and none of them are ever the thing you actually need, and even when you find what you were trying to access, it never fucking works anyway. I've basically just given up, and go in to their offices in person whenever I need to get anything done. I'd much rather stand in line for half an hour than spend an hour trying to decode the dumb website with incomprehensible UI, only to find a phone number that takes another hour of my life to not get any results either.
"Building a more awesome government"! Too funny. Ahhh, they should hire this comment section to help make the "United States Digital Service" double-plus-good. "Government sucks and its slow! I have an ingenious idea! Add more!" That is the gist of the talk right?
+James No, just simply no. By using websites and eletronic forms you cut out miscomunication sicnificantly. And there lies the biggest inefficiency: miscomunication
Congratulations for doing whathad to be done 10-15 years ago. It is the same thing this side of the Ocean. IT systems being incredably user ufriendly and many projects failing and over budget. Some systems being actually worse the the predescessor from 5 or 10 years earlier. Some examples: -Police databases. -The system used for unemployed to register and account for effort put in to find a job and report earnings. The Netherlands
+I Dislike the new TH-cam then, like most TED youtube commenters, you aren't listening. It follows the classic TED model followed by other excellent talks: 1) here's a problem (services are archaic and not user friendly, attempts to solve this have historically been expensive failures) 2) here's a solution (small task forces managing bite size pieces of the problem at a time, starting with the most important) 3) here's some examples of the successful results (online green card replacement, vet education services, vet medical services) open your ears. close your mouth.
As long as someone has a well defined structure, their ideas are presented clearly, and the purpose is strong, I'm willing to forgive some fluff. And you are correct in that there is quite a bit of fluff. This could have been shorter, and that would have improved the talk. I'm not arguing that she was the perfect TEDster. Rather, I'm arguing that your supposition that this is incomprehensible is way off the mark. Personally, I like writing and speaking, and I know the value of a strong structure, because people just naturally understand, and retain information better when that structure is followed. The first minute of this speech is actually pretty good. She starts with a hook, gives a teaser to the cool project, and then introduces the problem that this project is solving, all within the first minute. The fluff doesn't start until she starts over-explaining examples, but these are all framed nicely within her structure so you have the context to understand where she is going and why. So, what part confused you? Why weren't you able to pick up on her point?
I Dislike the new TH-cam fair enough. if you've got good material, it should stand on its own. her kinda milking the crowd was completely unnecessary. a good speaker should eliminate distracting things from their speeches for exactly the reason that you were turned off.
+yourliestopshere you're probably one of the TED commenters that don't listen long enough to get to the payoff where they display the solution and results huh?
Good thing, i guess. :) but the presentation... Laughs a lot... Repeats a lot... Uses... "specific"... words... a lot... Says it works. a lot. Praises EVERYTHING... A SH*TTON - (Yeah, sure, all is legit as *$!# !) question: Why is it so well recieved that you seem to be privilege women on these jobs? Anyone HAD TO smile for the pics, hadn't they?
+abschussrampe are you thinking of a specific Douglas Rashkoff TED talk? A quick check didn't lead me to any strong pieces of him, but admittedly, it was a very quick check.
This is fucking terrible. She doesn't know anything. Hey! Why don't we just take all the tech made by the nerds and combine it with politics! Ta-da! I just solved everything!
+Mark Williams It follows the classic TED model followed by other excellent talks: 1) here's a problem (services are archaic and not user friendly, attempts to solve this have historically been expensive failures) 2) here's a solution (small task forces managing bite size pieces of the problem at a time, starting with the most important) 3) here's some examples of the successful results (online green card replacement, vet education services, vet medical services) Given that she presented actual successful results, rather than a fairytale vision, you are wrong.
This is fantastic. Across the world, every nation should simply follow this model to streamline their governments. In this memorable talk, Haley Van Dyck gives a riveting tale of how she and her team are in the process of changing 'face of the Government' in USA. Kudos to her and the team. Highly recommended.
Ah, TED comments.
This person demonstrates a problem, describes the solution, and shows tangible/powerful results...
But there is a shitstorm in the comments nitpicking over the least significant parts of the talk, and the character of the person.
you guys can do better.
*****
touche
TH-cam comments are the least common denominator
+weesh ful Thank you for single-handedly changing the world with your opinion.
There is nothing wrong with a little nitpicking in moderation. Can be fun and silly. But unfortunately there is an epidemic of it in TED comments. It really is a shame, since many TEDsters have actually important stuff to share, and it is getting ignored.
I too would like people who attack a video to explain why and then add to the conversation with alternative ideas. Because there are legitimate gripes about TED talks that should be addressed. But when the quantity of gripes rises above a certain threshold, it distracts from the value of the talk.
The threshold has been so thoroughly and repeatedly crossed that you even see comments like "I'm only subscribed to watch the shitstorm" (taken from this video).
But there are some conscientious commenters as well, and I've had a few good conversations, so I'm not willing to write them off yet.
+weesh ful Good luck, buddy. This is youtube.
Okay so the fact that this should have been done over a decade ago is of course a problem, but why is everyone upset with someone standing up and actually doing it. The fact of the matter is, it wasn't done because most people don't care enough to do it. Not to mention that because of it more problems have accumulated over time because of it. This is a wonderful thing. This is what real change looks like, and that's why we should all be striving for
I dont get it. Whats with the dislikes? She's talking about how to improve parliamentary processes using tactics from Silicon Valley.
kinda boring dude
+Fat aakaa something being boring is a reason to stop watching, not a reason to dislike
+Shapookya tells this the haters
+haxamin
TED comments are a cesspool.
people hear one stupid comment, stop listening before they get to the solutions and results and rant in the comments.
The dislike percentage on TED talks is NOT indicative of the quality.
+Shapookya disliking is an indication that the 'ideas worth sharing' in this video might not be quite TED worthy. I applaud that Haley too the initiative to get the government to update it's IT, but there are millions on consultants that do projects like this on a daily basis, none of the ideas presented here are revolutionary, and certainly not worth a 15 min talk.
That was a completely unnecessarily long talk explaining how the government is just now getting online forms/applications up and running in 2016. Congratulations, you're now doing what the private sector and most public institutions have been doing for over a decade. It's commendable but long overdue.
The government is still light years behind everyone else.
Literally.
Great speak and message.
It is all about meritocracy, have nothing to do with race or gender.
The gov first has to realize that, until then, it will not compete with the private sector.
The figures of inefficiency are amazing.
I basically only click to read the comment section now. this is great.
+Cazmeus
just out of curiosity, how do you find shitstorms more amusing than depressing?
weesh ful it's because I like to watch things burn down. I just hope TED doesn't lose all of the credibility it's gained. Lots of the recent (within the past 2 years) videos have been very weak as far as content goes.
Interesting talk. I like the ideas especially for helping our veterans. Hopefully it will prove to be scalable!
+b rye
the fact that it changes the paradigm from global change to bite-sized chunks is encouraging on that front.
Whats with all the negativity on this video? Do we have so little faith in our government that one a woman says it can be better we rant in the comments section?
+Seth Woodard
TED commenters have become a cesspool. one of the comments on this very video is "I'm only subscribed to read the shitstorms". on one video someone had a terrifically negative statement about how awful the video was and I asked "did you get past the first 30 seconds?" and they said "no".
The percentage of downvotes on a TED video is no longer indicative of the quality of the talk.
+weesh ful the percentage of downvotes on TED videos is indicative of the gender of the presenter
Celestina
sad but true.
*****
the ratio of video bitching to comment bitching appears to be closer to 20:1 than 1:1.
just how are you counting?
weesh ful
I never demand moderation or any censorship for that matter. I was just surprised this particular video garnered so many dislikes. I understand the irritation and rants at other TED talks but the negativity surprised me on this specific video.
hey! its Adam Savge in the botom left at 2:34!
i do not directly benefit by the work she did but i am fanscinated by the way she talk
i want to do something with that much of inspiration and passion
Is she giving a State of the Union Address?
This is amazing. She seems she has some of the smartest people with her who are solving problems with modern tools. I cannot share my joy enough.
11:00 minutes down breathless .... too long
I want her to be our first female president
Sooo, you made a few websites more user-friendly?
Damn the speech sounds way too grandiose considering the premise.
+Anston [Music]
It's like you forgot the challenges of the project by the time you got to the end.
the problems of failing projects and social inertia were grandiose in scope.
there is a huge difference between "this website is slightly easier to use than it was yesterday" and "there is actually a website for this, and I don't have to wait 6 months now".
weesh ful Fair enough.
I loved this talk, I wish this sector was implemented sooner.
very good!!
awesome tanks.
agile methodology....she said that indirectly..:)
As a young teenager who knows next to nothing about what's discussed in this video, I'm curious as to why this video has more dislikes than likes.
+David Gonzales
Ill take a stab.
One, something I dont think most are for this reason, but it stood out for me. She is a sexist, I know seems an odd concept (like black people cant be racist). But the way she emphasizes "she" over and over and over, where it should of been non gender specific, coupled with her odd stat of "over half the workers are women" which... is not something you wish to achieve. Rather getting the best person for the job rather than what genitals you have (and the way she suggested it, seems like genitals played a big part.). But other than that
her body language, something is off and I will have to watch it a few times to realize what exactly. Other than that there is a large concern about an private buisness running the government, that giving a group unlimited access, a monopoly is a step in the wrong direction. That this new "startup" seems like a new department (think FBI, homeland, CIA, EPA etc...) with unlimited power, absoloutely no oversight, without elected officials breeds corruption.
+jesse levett i see your point, i dont have the same opinion tho.
but anyway, the thing i wanted to say, black people can be racist. Racism is hate/discrimination of other races, so if a black guy hates on a white for being white, thats racism. I needed to say this, i'm sorry :P
+jesse levett Body language? Thats your second point? Frickin body language. Theres a word for that my friend.
She seems way too overly excited for something that is not. Looks like acting.
+John Malkovich
Not the ones with actual scientists.
In general.
+My Name is Not Or shes.. just really enthusiastic.
Maybe she's molded her identity to her "task" and is the only thing that keeps her from breaking down. Or as you said it best, acting.
Her smile appears kinda fake, like a salesman's smile, and she laughed for no reason as if she was mad.
I applaud good government IT-services, but this woman wasn't the best to represent it.
She kinda lost me after glutenfree meals. But while it really should get easier, it also shouldn't be too easy. Sure, it shouldn't take days of and whatnot, but it also should form some kind of barrier where people get incentive to actually start making a living. Now sure not everybody is lazy and not everybody got in the situation they are in now by full control, but i still feel that there shouldn't be an app to get some food stamps. I also like how she lists people who benefit by the service but not simply the working man. But ok.
Lastly scrapped projects happens everywhere. Thats not really a big issue (in fact DevOps mostly came around because people need to fail (just fast enough to go from there). Also i still have doubts on how they will actually end up changing things. Because there is a reason why some projects don't work or delay. Not because of the ideas or lack of assets. But simply because politics blocks a lot of stuff like that.
Still, for the other items like the 91 form and the likes i think its nice but they weren't that hard were they? Ah well, its progress..
She reminds me a little bit of Leslie Knope (Parks & Recreation)!
"We don't care about politics, we care about government" That doesn't make any sense.
+Malcolm Pagett
of course not...if you take it that far out of context.
you didn't even record a full sentence.
should be: "We don't care about politics, we care about government work better."
in context it's clearly talking about political infighting, elections, etc, and putting the focus on making government services more accessible to the people that need them.
Great talk. But the amount of buzz words was too much
what a positive message
Haley for President!!
>top talent from silicon valley
>over half are women
pick one
Wondering why the many dislikes until I hit the 8:56 mark. Exhausting smh.
+Ernesto Gastelum
its sad that people let one stupid comment detract from the results these teams have achieved.
Cadê a legenda? 😥😪
so basicly what she is saying is that the goverment is going paperless? that is fine but i dont see what she has to be so hyperbolic about it.
+viperstrike0 I think its because of the gross inefficiency mustve been bewildering for her. its like a doctor going into a pakistani hospital.
"Gluten-free meal"
Confirmed basket case
+CORZER0 It's allegory for accessibility. Not sure what rock you're under that you missed that. That's not even one of the juicier "she's a basket case" moments, which leads me to believe you're going for the attention fruit just higher than "woman, lol."
+Gareth Field Do you over-analyze and misinterpret everything you see?
BureauCrazy
Brogrammaer culture into government. This is what the world has come to...
I'm afraid.
She's a woman but she sounds ambitious, driven and confident like any other successful guy in tech. I think that's what annoys people honestly.
the unions fight these changes every step of the way.
idk if it is just me but i can feel the disdain for the white house in the crowd of this speech.
+shea gerritsen
i think it's just you.
totally could be, i watched it right when i woke up
Great
I dunno... I guess this is a huge step forwards... but government getting their basic services into a basic level of just being anything fucking usable online... Should have happened at least 15 years ago.
And in my experience it's not just federal government, but all 3 levels, and not just online. Even when you try to call them, you get shunted into an automated phone system that gives you 7 menu options within 7 menu options and none of them are ever the thing you actually need, and even when you find what you were trying to access, it never fucking works anyway.
I've basically just given up, and go in to their offices in person whenever I need to get anything done. I'd much rather stand in line for half an hour than spend an hour trying to decode the dumb website with incomprehensible UI, only to find a phone number that takes another hour of my life to not get any results either.
"Building a more awesome government"! Too funny. Ahhh, they should hire this comment section to help make the "United States Digital Service" double-plus-good.
"Government sucks and its slow! I have an ingenious idea! Add more!" That is the gist of the talk right?
+James No, just simply no. By using websites and eletronic forms you cut out miscomunication sicnificantly. And there lies the biggest inefficiency: miscomunication
13:54
9:36
As soon as she mentioned 'strategically placed..", I was out from that chrome tab.
lets hope she will keep up the good work in the years to come under Trumps government.
she said a curse word :-X
Congratulations for doing whathad to be done 10-15 years ago. It is the same thing this side of the Ocean. IT systems being incredably user ufriendly and many projects failing and over budget. Some systems being actually worse the the predescessor from 5 or 10 years earlier.
Some examples:
-Police databases.
-The system used for unemployed to register and account for effort put in to find a job and report earnings.
The Netherlands
🔥
now children sit down and I'll tell u a story lets talk about fiat money and how money is created from nothing and we pay taxes oh dear wake up
I clicked on this because she looked like Claire Underwood. Now I'm disappointed.
let's talk about robots and a.I taking most jobs and money that is backed by nothing instead of this social engineering
So what is this about? Something about the White House? If she had a point it wasn't made.
+I Dislike the new TH-cam
then, like most TED youtube commenters, you aren't listening.
It follows the classic TED model followed by other excellent talks:
1) here's a problem (services are archaic and not user friendly, attempts to solve this have historically been expensive failures)
2) here's a solution (small task forces managing bite size pieces of the problem at a time, starting with the most important)
3) here's some examples of the successful results (online green card replacement, vet education services, vet medical services)
open your ears. close your mouth.
As long as someone has a well defined structure, their ideas are presented clearly, and the purpose is strong, I'm willing to forgive some fluff.
And you are correct in that there is quite a bit of fluff. This could have been shorter, and that would have improved the talk.
I'm not arguing that she was the perfect TEDster. Rather, I'm arguing that your supposition that this is incomprehensible is way off the mark.
Personally, I like writing and speaking, and I know the value of a strong structure, because people just naturally understand, and retain information better when that structure is followed. The first minute of this speech is actually pretty good. She starts with a hook, gives a teaser to the cool project, and then introduces the problem that this project is solving, all within the first minute.
The fluff doesn't start until she starts over-explaining examples, but these are all framed nicely within her structure so you have the context to understand where she is going and why.
So, what part confused you? Why weren't you able to pick up on her point?
Beyond the shape and order of material presented, call it perception bias. I don't always feel the want for banter, sorry.
I Dislike the new TH-cam
fair enough.
if you've got good material, it should stand on its own. her kinda milking the crowd was completely unnecessary.
a good speaker should eliminate distracting things from their speeches for exactly the reason that you were turned off.
I thought Claire Underwood was fictional
painful.
+yourliestopshere
you're probably one of the TED commenters that don't listen long enough to get to the payoff where they display the solution and results huh?
No, I watched the whole video. It was wordy and too pedantic for efficacy. We shall see won't we.
Good thing, i guess. :)
but the presentation...
Laughs a lot...
Repeats a lot...
Uses... "specific"... words... a lot...
Says it works. a lot.
Praises EVERYTHING...
A SH*TTON
- (Yeah, sure, all is legit as *$!# !)
question:
Why is it so well recieved that you seem to be privilege women on these jobs?
Anyone HAD TO smile for the pics, hadn't they?
-5-
first
Lol
omfg
Douglas Rashkoff is significantly superior to her drivel.
+abschussrampe
are you thinking of a specific Douglas Rashkoff TED talk?
A quick check didn't lead me to any strong pieces of him, but admittedly, it was a very quick check.
This is fucking terrible. She doesn't know anything. Hey! Why don't we just take all the tech made by the nerds and combine it with politics! Ta-da! I just solved everything!
lol 5th
wow did she watch too much Disney
+Mark Williams
It follows the classic TED model followed by other excellent talks:
1) here's a problem (services are archaic and not user friendly, attempts to solve this have historically been expensive failures)
2) here's a solution (small task forces managing bite size pieces of the problem at a time, starting with the most important)
3) here's some examples of the successful results (online green card replacement, vet education services, vet medical services)
Given that she presented actual successful results, rather than a fairytale vision, you are wrong.