Making a WW2 Commando Dagger! Part 1
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Alec: I want to focus on function over form on this one.
Also Alec: Let’s make it flamboyant with some spiral fluting!
I could cut this on a lathe in 10 minutes, but instead..........
Alec, I imagine the thin tang is due to the WWII heritage, a little more metal on the tang doesn't matter for one, but it adds up when you make a couple million. Combine that with wartime restrictions on material, less is more.
i love how Jamie is becoming a second set of eyes and has learned Alecs tunnel vision and when he can help by piping up.
Now make a Leatherman multi-tool. :P Love the content
no no no, a damascus multi-tool, with different patterns for each part
@@MrGoesBoom that would be awesome if he wouldn't turn it into 27 parts stretching over a whole year.
I have wanted to make my own multi tool for ages, would be nice to see Alec try it first
@Damien Irvin yeah I disagree I want a 30 part series
@Adventurous Hermit yes! All the detail!
I always hate to built a jig to make the work easier, I just have the feeling it takes more time than it saves but in the end I realize that it would have been so much faster!
I'm exactly the same
Same with me lol
lol same
Faster and/or Safer in some cases
@@michaeltilly6208 Yeah sometimes it saves a finger as well^^
You should do a challenge where you have to make a blade but Jamie says what he wants for each of the steps and you cannot plan it at all
Or like the exact instructions PB&J where Jamie has to write very specific directions, then Alec has to follow it perfectly.
I second both of these options and I also say that Jamie should plan it all out and not tell Alec what Alec is building. Basically “hey Alec, forge up some Demascus” and he goes “how much?” And Jamie just goes “eeeehhhhh about 3.65 kilos” or some random number because obviously Jamie doesn’t know how calculate steel as good as Alec. Then he will say “make it 16 inches long” and “give it a head like a hammer” then build an axe on it. Just keep him guessing only to have him end up with a claw hammer that you could buy at Home Depot for 5 dollars lol
two tips:
1) stainless steel needs always the foil or you'll mess up the chrome
2)if you put the steel between aluminium on a side and the steel of the welding table on the other, you might mess up the quenching since those two material conduct heat in different ways. That means there might be residual stresses due to the different heat absorption
Since Jamie is the only one paying attention, he’s becoming the better craftsman in this nuthouse.
Yea I think Jamie is reaming Alex out as well.
Jamie's playing the long game to take over Alex's shop.
In this one I saw a change, no judge, somebody knows more then he's aware of at the Moment. ;)
@@SiiideSa it’s been like that for a while. Fruit loops
@@lask007 I’m willing to consider that it’s not that he doesn’t care. But he is in the middle of a new house renovation that takes up a lot of time. That being said half asssssin’ videos for months on end is probably not the best way to go
I think the tang being so thin on the original was probably a combination of adequate strength, cost saving, and lightness for the user
It might have to do with balance, as well. I don't know if this was ever used as a throwing dagger, but it certainly looks like it could be used that way.
The thickness of the blade for darn sure is because of the required stiffness. This is a blade that’s fairly thin overall but has to be capable of penetrating without braking.
As a machinist, you make a mighty fine blacksmith 😂
My son is doing VOTECH for CNC machining, but also has a lot of interest in blacksmithing.
I love Jamie giving you directions! Go Jamie!
I like your method of finding the grooves for the flutes. That was my one complaint about the cavalry saber; trying to create even fluting on a contoured grip is so hard, but it looks really uneven if you don't get it completely perfect
My grandfather was a commando in ww2, I didn't actually know they had a dedicated knife. I'll definitely have to make one in his honour. I will always be proud that he was my grandfather.
would love to see some darts made with tungsten on the lathe. some great unique grip while hitting weight target and match weighting.
Aw man that's a damn good idea. Damascus steel tips. 🤌🏼
That's actually a really fun idea...
Cool idea, ordered some tungsten this morning!
why would he not just drill the hole for the handle in the lathe horizontally
I learned that stainless steel either needs a super special setup to eliminate the decarb, or just grind after heat treat, Ive had some thick decarb even with a stainless foil wrap.
The smallest of renditions of the dykem song made me so happy.
The company (companies) that made the Fairbairn Sykes, when it was in production for war, had a tendency to not properly temper the blade causing the tip to snap off at the worst possible moment for the wielder. I’m grateful to the men that did the proper research on tempering before the USMC adopted the blade for the Marine Raider program. I carried a replica of those blades in Iraq because I had complete confidence in the blade.
To be fair in the 40's they were manufacturing them to very tight deadlines and budgets. Modern military spend, especially in the US, makes anything possible.
Suggestion that might be stupi: dip the handle in liquid rubber/latex, then file down to the metal leaving the rubber/latex filled grooved. Gives grip stability and beautiful appearance
The purist in me winces at the spirals, but I can't deny the craftsmanship.
Ok, now I'm really interested in seeing Alec forge a clinch pick.
The red dyekem song was beautiful
My guess is the tang has those radius cuts in them to remove any crack or sharp stress concentrations. The normal stresses in that necking won't be that bad compared to a straight right angle, and they can be machined in pretty easily.
O.K. Alec,
Now, do another set of spirals in the other direction, and for sure you will have a great looking surface that won’t slip when your hands are covered in blood.
Keep the aspidistra flying!
You should forge a WW2 trench shovel next! Not unlike the spetnaz throwing shovel, but a more technical build.
That subtle “huh yeah” ☠️
Excellent!!! Love the FS, V-42, and V-12 OSS Knives, fantastic blades, awesome that you're making one.
we want blue dykem!! bring back the old days!!!
Great to see a return to blades. I love it when you do the historical stuff especially. Can't wait for the next episode 😂
Camera man came in clutch for catching those mistakes you wouldn't catch yourself. Interesting how manny eyes on a project creates different manufacturing dynamics for a better product.
I had one of these knifes handed down to my from my grandfather, I been looking to refinish it since it has a significant amount of pitting in the handle. i may just have to use this as guide.
Please try : Quench in GALLIUM! Quench in some metal!! 😉👊🍻
I once made similar flutes by hand in a piece of wood - not an easy task. 👍👍👍
The reason you were slipping with the bit was the bit had worn down, I've used those same bits when making knee implants for multiple years. They get dull pretty fast, so pay close attention. The sharper, the more grip. That and obviously going for speed lol
Can't wait to see the finished product. So far, so good. I like the design.
Maybe put a rubber band around the concave portion of the handle next time you try that method with “hippie string”.
This is my favorite knife of all time. The British Special Forces Commando knife. Been trying for years to find one in better than crappy condition.
10:37
Alec: That's hard as nails now
Narrator: _compared to knives, nails are not very hard_
2:00 min mark the "oh yeah" made me shoot coffee out my nose. 😂😂😂
I think it would be awesome to see you make a Gravity Knife!
I was really hoping Alex was going to go crazy, and do a fish scale pattern on the grip.
Ah young wild haired Alex, you've come a long way it's been great watching your videos all these years
Loving the return of your build series videos!!
14:11
Me, whenever I decide to drive literally anywhere.
I love all your content but I'm very happy to see you making a dagger. Maybe a sword next? I need another 20 part series
I made the same mistake with a bit because I just started my apprenticeship in tool and die repair/machinist learning. I didn't know this before but bigger bit means slow down the rpms. I burned out a bit this way and now I know..guess that's how you learn!
Finally back with some real work :) I miss you pre US videos !
I actually met a guy that owned and used a genuine WWII dagger as his edc knife.
I just bought a paragon from your website... the fact that you're trying to soak @ 1050 with a forge is hilariously awesome given that 😂
Wow, I remember this channel when it had 10 or 20k subs, what a journey this young man has been on
Whatever happened to the Montana shop? I loved some of the work there, like all the accessories for the forge with temp control, auto doors etc.
"Are you some sort of hippie?"
Burned like he was put in the forge
This is cool dagger, i have done similar at handicraft class at school but ive lost it because its been 4years
11:39 YES, a lathe can do that. You need a taper attachment. Essentially a means of automatically directing the cutter towards the shape, irrelevant of the shape (by following a premade shape).
Cool! I just got done rewatching the Viking sword, gladius, and Falchion playlists (in that order) finished rewatching Falchion today just in time for this to land!
Why didn't you drill the grip in the lathe? I understand that the side holes would've needed offsetting the workpiece in a 4-jaw chuck, and you might have needed the mill to make the smaller holes into full width slots (or manually filed it).
I scrolled through all the comments until I found yours. I knew someone else saw the lathe as the obvious tool for boring the the handle.
Few years back, I purchased the Case V42 reproduction. Of course, with it being so expensive I can't bring myself use it. I've taken to sitting it on a coffee table covered in memory foam and staring at it from across the room.
I'm gonna need Jaime's red Dykem song as a ring tone!
Been wanting to make one of these for ages, super pumped to see this video. I love the artistic stuff, but more than anything I love useful metal working projects. I was wondering if you'd hammer in the bevels or heat treat and grind. Last knife I tried to forge with a sharp tip warped like a bastard during heat treat then snapped when I tried bend it back.
The predecessor, the Shanghai fighting knife, is a generally more useful design. While cool, the F/S is really just a cheap mass production assassination oriented knife for niche ww2 use whereas the Shanghai was designed for civilian street carry.
The ultimate evolution of the F/S in my opinion is the original spec hollow ground Case V-42 with a deep thumb groove. As unobtainable and priceless as they are, I've built several of my own tributes and suggest the pattern to anyone who fancies the F/S.
The perfect video to start the day with
OH my fave ever knife - saving this vid for tomorrow...
My uncle's had a grippier handle that wouldn't slip easily with a bloody hand.
Avery time Alec says something about the steel not being/ being hard I automatically think "That's what she said."
The FS is my favorite knife.
If you're looking for something to do between projects, consider making bits to fit on that ratchet you made a long time ago
I'm not kidding, was thinking about commenting to make one early hours this morning! Mad haha
I like the twist you put into the handle. Definitely looks better than the original.
was that a tyler bell shirt? it's really astonishing how the few youtubers i frequently watch seem to watch/like each other too 🤗
You should definitely make a cast of the inside of your handle ❤
From what I saw and calculated in my life that cut in in the tang should actually lower stress concentration insted of causing it, the only way it impacts the strength of a piece is smaller cross section. Anyway great vid as always.
Nice, I got one of these knives from ww2 at home. They were issued to the Australian commandos
There was a challenge in Forged in Fire for making this blade. I wonder, did the team know it?)
Thank you for sharing your expertise
I would love if you tried to make Exalibur, Love your videos
That fairbairn-Sykes dagger was the first video of yours I had watched. Time flies
I do love my F/S knife, and making another is near the top of my list as soon as I get set up with a forge
Love the singing! 12:10
Finally a series !
I miss your bladesmithing. Thank you. 👍
Finding that proper bit is everything.
When you said you were taking inspiration from older daggers, I thought you were going to do a wire-wrapped handle. Then you decided to do the most difficult grip possible instead; I don't know why I expected anything else.
This is Alec Steele we're talking about after all.
Silly question, why didn't you use the lathe to drill the main hole in the handle vertically? I understand the smaller angled holes.
@10:42 & @10:47 -(10:52) best out-of-context Alec Seele phrases. XD (viewer audibly face-palms head)
Would love to see a collab between you and @DaisyTempest !!!
I made the grip on a lathe from black buffalo horn.
Love how he’s talking about when he was a little snapper at 25 seconds but he looks the EXACT SAME. Just bigger hair
you could have all the turning machining in the laithe then slotted in the mill just fixing in a 90 deg vee block laid on its side
Hey Alec! I have an idea for a Damascus that I haven't seen yet!
Great work that was totally METAL ! 👍
I always compliment you for wearing respirators when sanding but would you not also need one with the Dremel when you are working so close?
Could you make the ww1 navy utility knife, the one with the marlin spike?
It appears that the handle on the original adds to the tang strength.
Honestly I love anything you make but I agree a leather men multi tool would be really cool to see your hand made version
10:07 Just the sound made me go: Ooops... And you were also very surprised...
When are you going to buy another 3 have Chuck just to clamp on to the table? It would be so much easier than setting up the dividing head.
Can't wait for part 25
Love you Alex 💕
hello @alecsteele , do you know that you can drill almost square holes with a rotating tool : you should shape reuleaux triangle drill bit... quite an exercise, and quite a video in sight....
Oh, I do love the background music- props, Jamie! That is groovy looking handle. I know you have to suffer for your art, but that's taking it a bit far.
They pump these out daily by the hundreds in small shops . It should be a one part video