When Should We Tighten the Bolts and Other Quonset Questions
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- Should we tighten the quonset hut bolts as we go , or should we leave them loose until and tighten them all at the end
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I've used a nifty lift and built my 40 by 60 by 20ft tall by myself. The best way for me was panel by panel using a scaffold to hold the center of the first few arches while using my nifty lift to bring panel by panel into place. Using 2 chainsaw tools, you can line up each panel long enough to drop in bolts. Then use the tools to line up all holes per panel. That's the easy part. The end walls, not so easy. Still trying to figure that out.
Good Video Brock, remind me never to get a Quonset hut... I'll stick with stick-built structures... Lol
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A tower trailer, mine's twenty to forty feet high when outriggers are set and platform is elevated to it's maximum height. My hut will be eighteen feet to peak of curve. I plan to park the tower trailer just past the quonset hut's footprint, centered, mount several pulleys for ropes to pass thru, and a winch to slowly hoist each arch until both feet are just off the ground. Grounds workers walk the arch onto the bolts. Tower operator works mostly from the ground controlling the winch. Ropes are ended with spring loaded 'D' clamps for quick disconnect.
By the way, prep as much as possible on the ground, i.e. a dab of silicone will 'stick' the bolt in it's hole temporarily, especially if done on one side (forward) of each panel the night before assembly of arches.
A small piece of gorilla tape on the leading edge of the arch will buffer the rope strain on subsequent arches as they are pulled up into place. Removed when arch is mated to previous arches.
That’s a beast of project, excellent informative video. I enjoy hearing about other’s projects and the challenges involved, solutions that were decided on.
Would really find one of these handy to live in...thinking about the low maintenance aspect.
Your videos are the best I have come across. You explain success and failures to save others that learning curve. I plan to build one this year. I plan to use a spreader beam to hoist and fabricate a pivot point attached to the connector bases. You're very helpful, best of luck 👍
Thanks for the kind words. Within the next week or so I’ll have some more videos on it finishing it up.
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Two things about bolts, if your using the anchor plates with the 4 holes, you can tighten all the bolts as you go, the plate keeps your arches where they need to be. That’s what I did on my 30’x50’x17’6” hut I had no issues at all. I was able to walk on the top of the arch after the fifth arch was up.
Life is a continual teacher LOL seems like we never get out of the classroom. Hopefully someday down the line you'll get a nice return on this video line cuz you sure have done a lot of work on making this your own kind of building with the additional 24 in of concrete blocks. Best of luck, thanks buddy
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Connect all panels finger tight. Place duct tape on the top of each bolt on the outside. You want the flexibility of the structure to move for alignment of the panels. I then used a driver on the inside to sinch the bolts tight. Now all you have to do is remove the duct tape from the bolts when you are done.
I also rented a sizzor lift, built the first two vertical panels on each side, connected 3-4 rows, then used the lift to make the horizontal connections and center cap.
We built one of these for my dad who let my brother put his business in it. We eventually had to hire it out because we didn’t have enough help. It is 50’ x 150’ You are doing a great job and I know you are determined enough to get it done! Hang in there!
Thanks for sharing. My smaller building is difficult enough I don’t think I could tackle one that big
One more thing you have to watch out for: The arches kind of spread out as they are sitting. When they got my last arch up there was about 2 foot over the spec length so they took the back hoe and pulled the building like an accordion back into it's spec length. So you have to either make sure you are not running over on length for number of arches up or get a big tractor.
I think that the design of my building kind of prevents that from being a major issue because each arch bolts into a metal track through pre-drilled holes so it cannot be off more than the slop in those holes
And even if there’s a half of an inch of slot in that hole it’s not cumulative because the length of the building is set by the track
I do appreciate you sharing the info
We measured each piece to 2' center to center of bolts. Ours is only 15' high & 2 of us put it together, no track, by ourselves with a duct jack & 2 ladders with steel bracing to maintain the shape of the arch while lifting. It was time consuming but a breeze. We put up the 1st piece up on either side of installed arches to give added stability while we were away & left the last arch rigged. We tightened every bolt as we went. We had no problems with wind even though we live on a mountain with routine wind gusts as high as 75 mph. I can say though that my husband has extensive commercial/industrial construction experience as a union steamfitter for 48yrs. I had some as a sprinkler fitter so we had an advantage over most folks with our combined rigging experience. Then there were all the videos of learning curves that helped us avoid a lot of the pitfalls of others. Nothing ever twisted which I credit the bracing of the top of the arch from side to side. We had grade issues on one side due to the mountain that made it kinda hairy at times but we did! Him 63, me 56, both broke up from the floor up with multiple reconstructive surgeries on both of us from feet to knees to back to hands & neck. We had much more trouble with subs to dig & to pour concrete. The weather has been a major factor for us bc it rains a lot in the Smokies. We were in a kinda hurry to get it up as I've been living in an 8x12 shed for almost a year & him working out of state the entire time & only available on weekends with a 9hr drive time minimum. So basically only got 2 arches up per weekend & another arch constructed so that it's ready for the next week. All in all, it was easy. If we had any faith in the ppl around here, we'd have used them but based on the clearing, grading, septic, well, tree removal for electricity to be run, foundations & slab pours I dealt quite a bit of locals & am here to tell you, they don't know near what they claim nor are near as great at their jobs as they claim. That's the price we paid for doing this in the middle of nowhere & not knowing a soul up here. If we hadn't moved so far out, it may've gone smoother. If Bidenomics hadn't screwed things up so bad, it may've been less costly. As it is, we have $37k in concrete & still haven't sealed around the bottom. We only have $35k in the quonset kit including windows & doors.
I've never done this but considering the number of bolts and the fact that you work by yourself a great deal of the time, maybe you should try assembling the arches to the ones already standing. One piece at a time would possibly be feasible with only you working. Just trying to be helpful. You're making great progress, though!
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The 3 guys that put my 45 x 60 x 18 up; just used what looked like 3 sections of 4x5 scaffold. They assembled all the arches on the ground and lifted with one rope and hung it over the scaffold. They didn't seem to care how much twisting and turning went on while pulling it up over the top and they just rolled the scaffold guy both ways to set it over the current arch. They put butyl tape on one side of the assembled arches and it hasn't leaked in 8 yrs so far. On thing they did say if they missed tightening a bolt be careful and don't tighten too much to squash the rubber washer or it will leak.
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Should have spent the money for the bottom anchoring trays.
I like your pivot point technique over a boom pole rig or a stack of pallets. I watched a video of a guy using a boom pole on a tractor loader and I'm not seeing a time savings. Maybe if you had a small telehandler or Skytrack it might be easier to work with but the pivot point seems to be pretty solid.
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I know it's too late now, but I would use clecos instead of the bolts initially, then come back through and install your bolts tightly.
make a spreader bar to attach to the same place you tie the ropes to attach spreader bar in the dead center to your boom
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Put up 2or3 panels on each side then use boom pole for middle panels.use some ac glue for nuts so you only need one impact.
Thanks for sharing. We did a couple of arches in pieces like that and I wanted to continue doing full arches, but I’m having trouble getting help so I may Have to go back to that
The book on the quonset i built also said to leave the bolts loose til you had the whole building put up and the tighten them. It stated that this was so that you could adjust it for plumb on the ends. We tightened all as we went and started off plumb and finished within 1/4'' of plumb. I also cannot see how to safely tighten all those bolts after it is built.
My building came with 8 gallons of bolts and nuts. It only took 4 gallons of them to build it. over 20 years later I am still using the extras on other things around the farm!
Did you buy the ends or are ya gona make your own or leave it open?
I bought the ends but I’m going to make my own doors
I also think I have a lot more bolts than I need
I’m in the tractor today but going to try to give you a call soon
Those L brackets are actually adding a fair amount of rigidity to each arch. Especially in 29 arches x 2 for each end.
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At the end it also gets 100 pounds of concrete on each side of each arch
Great video, good information. Sorry if I missed it, but what size is your building? Also, can you give ballpark figure what you paid for building itself, and concrete work? Thank you!
The building is 30 x 60 and including the end walls I paid $17,000
To have footings poured and the 2 foot walls built was going to cost $10,000 so I found a DIY version
I built those sidewalls myself out of giant construction concrete blocks and spent less than $1000 on the whole process. I rented a skid steer from a neighbor to set the blocks in and then I formed and poured the concrete top on them to level it
All just figuring it out as I go but it has worked out well
I have chronicled every step of the way in building this. Starting with cutting down trees, and cutting the pad into the side of a hill, to failing for a full day at putting up the first arches.
Soon I will be starting on the end walls and building in my own doors
Buying their doors would have been another 5k
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Looks like you have the panels upside down. The bottoms only have one row oof bolts. The tops have two rows for joining panels. At least that's the way my 30x30x16 QH worked. No vacant boolt holes should exist.
I can envision all sorts of lifting contraptions, but that doesn't seem to be the problem. The lack of rigidity in the arches while lifting is obviously causing problems. Would some temporary cross bracing spanning the gap help to stiffen the arch? Maybe one near the bottom and one at each section joint or wherever the arches are flexing the most. Use existing bolt holes. I'm not an engineer, but I know that triangles are very strong! They could be made from whatever you have laying around. Angle iron would work well, just cut off one side 3 or 4 inches and bend remaining side to match the angle of the arch. Drill a hole on each end for a bolt.
Disclaimer: The above mentioned alterations are NOT endorsed by the QHBA (Quonset Hut Builders of America) or their affiliates. Any alterations could pose a potential risk of injury or death to personnel. Use at your own risk.
Thanks for the disclaimer. I was fixing to sue ya if it didn’t work.
Thanks for sharing the suggestions
@@RockhillfarmYT 🤣 It might work, as long as the bolt holes in the arches are straight across from each other. Hard to tell from a video. Or it might not do diddly squat!
@@dustdevl1043 That is exactly what we did on the one I built and it does help the metal keep its shape.
@@paulcasefarms9933 The sections are quite flimsy until stood up. I cringe every time they lift one up!
Great video giving your inner thought processes to this erection project. You are the one doing it and as such do what’s best for you and your team. I think that a lot of us commenting here forget that “Rome wasn’t built in a day” and you achieve success thru failure. Riddle…….. why do always get experience right after you needed it 😂😂😂. Great job! You ain’t got one ounce of quit in you.
Thanks for the encouragement.
It hasn’t been a great morning for me so I appreciate it. Sometimes people forget that there’s a real person on the other end of a comment
Overall, not complaining though. I feel incredibly blessed in life. And appreciate all the positive people who comment on these videos
Maybe you should see if anyone that has been in the military has any experience with these buildings. They have them all over the place.
Thanks for sharing
Could you share the directions for this? I have a kit and it did not come with instructions
The directions on mine were not great. I think I made 10 to 15 videos documenting every step of the way on our process
that’s the best information I can give you
I would put all the bolts in but I don’t think you will need anyone on top just use a impact under and it’ll spin them up tight just give it a try and see
Thanks for sharing. That works on most of the bolts but not all of them. If there is a little catch in the threads it won’t spin up
I dislike this one cause too much talking not enough work done
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If yiu are watching the video. Amd comment this. Stfu and go back to work then😂