SteelMaster Quonset Hut: Metal Framing Details
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 เม.ย. 2021
- I received a question from a previous video in this Quonset Hut playlist series...asking me to go into further detail about how the metal framing works.
So I popped into to the quonset for a quick look at how the components are constructed. We actually used an incredible framing subcontractor for this, but I tried to give some closeups to detail how that all comes together.
If you have any more questions, feel free to throw them into the comments and I’ll try to answer what I can! - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Thanks so much you saved the day with this video. Just picked up some freebie metal studs for my Quonset 👍👍
That is SO awesome! I’m glad it helped! :)
One more quick question on the bottom track did they pin it directly to the concrete or something between the surfaces. By the way absolutely love the front of your building definitely changed my mind on my front thanks again
@@frankstewart8346 They just pinned it directly to the concrete without anything in between. However, if I could redo it...I might explore any options that might help keep out moisture from seeping through. I'm not even sure if anything like that exists, but I'm going to research that before my next Quonset build.
When we get windy sideways rain, there is some water that seeps under that track. Even with the little flashing that we put under the OSB and fiber cement board on the outside lip of the concrete edge, a little bit of water does occasionally creep in. So I'm going to get it all caulked and sealed up with this special sealant I got...I just haven't had the time to do that yet. Thankfully, we haven't had a ton of rain this spring. Once I get to that step I'll post a video on that as well.
I'm so thrilled you got some inspiration on the front - thank you! The extra labor and finishing costs are a little bit of a downer, but in the end I think it's worth it to make it a little more exciting than just a straight wall. :)
@matt Harvey That is SO awesome! I'm excited to hear how it turns out!
builder of many years yet you have showed and give me several ideas for my S-Quonset dropping the plans by end of month.
I'm glad it was helpful! That's exciting - good luck on your build!
I see that this was 2 years ago but I find this highly interesting. I'm waiting for a drive to be created, so next year I hope to order my own Quonset Hut.
It’s definitely a fun and interesting build! I’m excited for you, best of luck!
I really like the front wall profile. You are right, it is fancy!
Thank you Brian! Haha...I'm normally not fancy, but I'm ALWAYS different! I've had several of our subcontractors scratch their heads and question some of my strange decisions whenever I design something funky...but then once everything is complete, they always come around! I get A LOT of, "I've never seen it done like this before!" Now they know that I'm queen of many "firsts"! :)
WOW, GREAT PRESENTATION AND EXPLANATION YOU SHOULD BE STEEL MASTER'S NATIONAL SALES MANAGER!!! =) XO XO
Hahaha, oh you’re too kind! Thanks for the lovely comment! :)
Im impressed w yer details of explaining construction procedures. T Y.
those relief cuts are amazing
They really are! I’m impressed with the work of our framers!
Really nice build
Thank you so much!
Yes, excellent. Thanks for taking the time to detail that out. That helps me a great deal. With the bending on the reliefs, my guess is they just propped up one end and stepped on the track to get it to bend. At least thats what I'd do! WRT to the bottom track did they do anything to rust proof the track from water? Ive heard thats an issue, and as you know, Qhuts like to either sweat, leak or both if you dont try to mitigate that up front. Finally, when you get to the garage door install, that'd be super if you can show how they connect the tracks to the arches. SM told me standard garage doors are no problem weight wise, so they dont do any special engineering on the arches for that - IOW its GTG as is structurally. Again, thanks for the taking the time to do the vid. Cheers!
No problem at all! I’m so glad that it’s helpful! That’s my primary goal with this series since quonsets are such a different animal...and much of this is foreign to all of us doing this for the first time.
I’ll definitely document and detail out the overhead garage door! The door has arrived, but the installer is backed up. I’m hoping to have that installation complete in the next week or so.
I was a little nervous / curious how that track system for the overhead door would work, but when we described the arch to the door guy and told him it was a Quonset, he said no problem. I’m excited to see how that all gets tied in.
The framing crew did not rust proof the bottom U-track from water, and you’re exactly right...on rainy days, I’m SHOCKED at how much water seeps in under both the base plates and the steel stud U-track, considering we put in a metal drip edge flashing piece beneath the fiber cement board edges.
To combat that, I actually have a special sealant that I’m going to caulk metal IBC plates on the arch length sides with, and then I have another sealant for the entire interior seam where the concrete meets the steel plates. I’ll definitely document and add that process to this series as well.
But since we did install a flashing on the exterior of the gable end walls, and the IBC plates have a downward drip edge too...I was so surprised to see how much water seeps in.
Regardless, I’m hopefully going to take care of all of that within the next couple of weeks. So much to do, and just short on time these days. I also need to fill the hundreds upon hundreds of finish holes and caulk all the batten strips as I prep for paint. However, I’m going to try to seal up the base plates and track first.
I’ll keep posting all the progress on the quonset hut in this series. If you think of any other questions, just let me know!
Hello there! Apologies for the long delay, but I just wanted to let you know that I finally posted an update video on how the garage door attaches to the arches. :) It’s the newest video in the Quonset Build playlist (just posted a few mins ago).
What are you doing about insulation ?
I love the look of the arches, and hate to cover them, so was thinking of some sort of insulation on the outside.
Will this be a home ? I has a really nice look to it.
I especially like the overhang that you have left above the door. 👍
I’m with you. I don’t want to cover the arches, so for this first winter I’m going to gauge and see what the temperature is like. I hadn’t planned on any insulation in the arches, but I am going to throw R-19 faces insulation between the studs and hang sheetrock on the gable end walls.
I have the insulation already on site, but unfortunately my electrician has some medical issues / surgery, so we’ve postponed the rough electrical for now and I can’t throw the insulation in until they is complete.
So I’ll be able to get a good gauge this winter with bo insulation, next winter with gable end R-19, and then proceed from there (possibly with infrared heaters if needed).
This is not a house, but just will be my workshop for now. However, later on it will likely become the retail gift shop for our farm.
How did contractor tie into the steel structure where it bumps in 3’ deep on the garage door side?
Very good video on metal studs. I take it they are like eight inches wide.
Thanks Troy! Apologies for the late response...I didn't see this comment until now. We actually went with 6" wide metal studs (16" OC).
Would you mind asking your contractor where he purchased the metal studs? I can't seem to find any that carry an 18ft long stud for my quonset hut. Keep the videos coming, hoping to start mine in a about a month. Looking forward to seeing your framing of the door opening and the door install. Thanks again
Hi Michael! My framing subcontractor does SO MUCH framing that believe it or not...the studs used for my small end wall project he had in scrap at his shop! However, I'm located near Asheville, NC and I'm getting ready to do some metal framing for my shipping container office suites, so I've sourced a local yard that stocks 16' metal studs. The company here that has a few local yards throughout this region is called Tucker Materials (A GMS Company) and they keep the 18 gauge 6" studs in stock.
If you do a search for metal framing wholesale or for wholesale building materials for contractors in your area...you might be able to find a local yard near you that keeps something like this in stock.
I'll try to post some more update videos soon! My quonset is now all waiting on me (I'm sealing / caulking it all myself as well as insulating myself)...and I'm finalizing my electrical plans for my electrician to come do the rough electrical soon. The framing for the overhead door is actually all complete...just waiting for the installer to pop that in, so I'll try to film a detail video of the framing on the door. I'll definitely do a video on the door installation as well since I'm extremely curious how he's going to get that track in with the quonset arch!
@@gracemcintire7880 Thank you very much!! Permit approved yesterday!! Hoping to pour concrete in couple weeks.
@@michaelferdon1697 That’s awesome news!! I’m excited for you. :) Good luck on the pour!
@@hawkeyegrace slab is down. Starting base connectors in 2 weeks. Can you share what you used for waterproofing and whether or not it is working? Thanks
@@michaelferdon1697 That's AWESOME...nice to get that big step out of the way. Sadly, I am horribly behind on the quonset right now. Aside this build, I just started a farm rescued a newborn baby calf last week and have 2 miniature donkeys arriving today! So I've been pulled on projects to shore up the fencing and paddock areas. However, I have purchased all of my waterproofing supplies and come up with a game plan. I plan on tackling that this coming week if we can get a reprieve from the recent rains.
I'll try to post a video this weekend with what I've purchased and show what the plan is, and then I'll post another video after it's complete with updates on success or not. I did have the overhead garage door installed recently, so I'll include that in the next update too. Stay tuned!
Hawkeye Grace, I'm purchasing a Steelmaster building from William S. and contemplating building my own end walls. Do any of your quonset videos show in detail how to marry the end wall (top, bottom, and sides) to the arch? There must be a gap. Thanks!
Hi there! I don't have a video on this, but you might be able to catch small glimpses of where the edge of the gable end walls meet the arches in this video. Our crew basically very precisely custom cut the OSB interior wall and the smooth fiber cement board to fit the shape of the arch. There is really not much of a gap at all between the steel arches and the plywood interior sheathing and the exterior fiber cement board.
They cut it with precision and we were initially thinking of just using backer rod to fill the slight gap. However, upon completion the gap was so small that we decided to just use The "Great Stuff" brand spray foam for gaps and cracks. That worked out very nicely. Once all of the bolts were completely tightened, we used that to fill the inside (it was tricky and tight, but managed to do that with a ladder). On the outside, I've left it as is since our Quonset has the outer metal edging that fixes into place and covers the gap. I will try to take a video of this when we're back up and running. Still experiencing delays waiting for our electrician to caught up, but hopefully will be resuming work on this building soon!
@@hawkeyegrace, thank you very much for the detailed and thoughtful reply. Wishing you and yours the best!
@@bayareasparky9180 absolutely! Happy to help! Let me know if you have any other questions in the process and I’d be glad to take close up photos and details if needed and send! My email is gk@gracehomes.us. Good luck on your project!
What has this building cost you? Love the end walls. I am building a shop and later a house.
Hey there! Absolutely. I actually received this question a little while back and broke down all of my costs to date in the comment thread. That video is in this playlist called "SteelMaster Quonset Hut: Sheathing Complete!".
I wonder if possible to achieve R-30 insulation with 7.5 inch batting by adding extension bolts and having a floating flexible furring.
I don’t see why not! I actually had to get REALLY creative with the bathroom of the farmhouse (next to the Quonset) when I decided to put in shower niches and recessed mirrors in the master bathroom on an exterior wall. I found this really AMAZING thin insulation material that I slid behind my standard R-19 and if I recall I got close to R-30 combined. I can’t remember if I made a video about it, but pretty sure I did. I’ll check and post the name of the video if I did.
I found it! It’s the video called “Insulation + Soundproofing” in the video playlist called “Cane Creek Valley Farmhouse Renovation”. This is the product I used (purchased from Amazon): amzn.to/3pPy1ER
@@hawkeyegrace Thanks. just posted this idea. th-cam.com/video/bf8brL70ic4/w-d-xo.html
Looking for a Florida Engineer/Architect to draw up and stamp plans.
@@12vLife That is a very cool idea! I hope you can find the right engineer! I know if you purchase from SteelMaster the stamped plans are included in the price...but I'm not sure if the county would require further internal plans from an architect beyond the metal building itself. I do as much as I can myself in SketchUp for internal and end wall specs for simple builds like this.
Hope all is going well. Any chance of a new quonset hut video??
Hey Michael! Thanks for checking in!! Unfortunately, thing have still been at a standstill since my electrician became a General Contractor himself and has gotten so far behind on everything. He’s tried suggesting finding a new electrician to speed things along, but we haven’t been able to find one we like as much as him that will wire the electrical the exact way we want in the Quonset.
However, we’re going to maybe try to get him to do the major stuff and with his guidance may try to run the conduit ourselves here this year so we can finally finish this out! Will keep you posted!
Steel studs are nice to work with
Totally agree! It’s my first time working with them, but I’ve enjoyed it so far.
@@hawkeyegrace
I used them inside a building that I rehab. So much nicer then wood
@@larrykluckoutdoors8227 that’s awesome!!
Im considering Quonset, w metal studs on ends. For fabricating shop.
That’s so awesome! Good luck on your build!!
Was there a reason not to track the wall track against the inside rib of the arch?
On the back wall, we went as far back as we could toward the edge to maximize interior space. On the front of the building, I wanted an alcove / overhang and architectural detail so it had some more depth and gave it a bit of an entryway. It’s definitely a lot more expensive than going on the straight edge, but I love the little alcove that it formed.
hello, I'm from Brazil, I would like information about this constructive system. This model uses what plate thickness? How thick is the fixing plate between the concrete and the structure plate? My questions are to understand more about this fantastic product. Another question is how much it can withstand the winds. I anticipate my thanks for your return. See you soon!
Hello! My framing subcontractor does SO MUCH framing that believe it or not...the studs used for my small end wall project he had in scrap at his shop! However, I'm located near Asheville, NC and I'm getting ready to do some metal framing for my shipping container office suites, so I've sourced a local yard that stocks 16' metal studs. The company here that has a few local yards throughout this region is called Tucker Materials (A GMS Company) and they keep the 18 gauge 6" studs in stock.
I'm not sure which brands you have access to in Brazil, but one brand I found online that goes into this system in detail can be found is Clark Dietrich, and you can read more information at: www.clarkdietrich.com/products/structural-studs
I'm not exactly sure of the plate thickness, but I think it is around 18 gauge. You'd have to consult the specs of the brand/manufacturer you go with for the wind resistance rating. The bottom U-track is screwed into the concrete slab with some specialty screws, but I'm not sure of the exact type. They are designed to affix the metal track to concrete.
@@hawkeyegrace
Hi Grace!
Thank you very much for your feedback, but I'm very curious about the Quonset system, the Steel Frame structure for closing your shed, yes I have it here in Brazil, thanks for the website available. I was very interested in the Quonset Hut constructive system which caught my attention. I would be grateful for the information you can provide about this system (eg assembly, labor, etc.) We are studying the possibility of assembling a machine here in Brazil to serve warehouses of this size. It seems in several videos that the system is fast, efficient, withstands strong winds and that the manpower for assembly is fast. I appreciate if you can write because I can translate on google translator. Thank you for your attention and quick response! Bye
@@jassonmaia That sounds like a fun project! We purchased our Quonset hut arches from SteelMaster (and they have the most up to date details and information at www.steelmasterusa.com/
We did not purchase the end walls from SteelMaster so we could finish them out custom; however, they do have options to purchase the end wall systems directly through them as well. I used a subcontractor to put up the metal framing, so this video is all the details I have on the framing process. Best of luck to you on your build!
Please tell me who framed your steel studs. I am having zero luck finding someone to use the steel studs. Thank you!
Hello. I'm a Project Manager for a local General Contractor. We have a regular subcontractor who does all of our framing (both wood and metal). They had never framed an arched structure before, but they were familiar with metal framing in general and were able to develop this solution. The main reason for this video was to break down the detail for how they made the adjustments for the Quonset arch. If you can find a subcontractor who is familiar with commercial or industrial framing, they should hopefully be able to make that adjustment. Best of luck!
Do you or any of your subcontractors know of any such contractor contacts you could point me to in SE South Dakota?
@@lindaburri5107unfortunately I don’t have any contacts out there. However, I’ll ask around and let you know if anyone in my network does.
Who did you use to construct your hut and build your endwalls?
I'm a Project Manager for a local GC. Me and a three of our guys did the arches ourselves. I think there might be a time lapse or a video in this series going over how we did the arch assembly. We used our our normal framing sub for the end walls and exterior sheathing / siding. We do a lot steady mix of industrial, commercial, and residential projects. Thankfully they were able to bang it out easily, even with the strange curve that they had never dealt with before.
Honestly, the biggest pain in the ass was tightening all the bolts after everything was fully assembled. My husband and I did that ourselves. He stood on ladders and scaffolding inside to hold the nut in place while I climbed on the roof to tighten every single one.
@@hawkeyegrace That's cool. I've been kicking around the idea of a Q-hut for a while and was curious. Thanks!
What keeps the bolts from leaking holding outside walls ???
The bolts they include have a special rubber washer that flattens / locks when you tighten the nut on the inside. Once tightened up, it is water tight.
"C" channel ?
C-channel or U-channel depending on the orientation and configuration. In this this instance the bottom track is a U-channel and studs are C.