Story 1 - When OP said that things had been moved and gone missing from their home, I had a feeling that it was the MIL who was responsible. I also have a sinking feeling that she took OP’s cat to be put down out of pure spite. All in all that MIL is a freak’n psychopath! I hope that her husband severed all ties with her, and that they’re both safe and that he and OP filed a restraining order against MIL.
My question is why do these people continue the same path knowing that this person is destructive? At a certain point you're just going back for more pain and torture.... Guess my tolerance for this kind of shenanigans is extremely low
@@biscuitninjaI agree. Once I find out you don't like me, I'm done. Your opinion of me isn't at all important in my life. I would keep my distance, making sure my SO knows my reasons. If he has a problem with it I'm sorry but that's his problem. I don't love anyone enough that I would let his crazy ass mother mentally abuse me. Sorry, ain't happen'.
MIL was a witch from day 1, but OP still asked her to watch her cat? How could OP talk about the awful things MIL did and said to her and about her and then turn around and ask MIL to tend to her beloved cat? Steal my property, verbally abuse me and slander me, and then I ask her to watch my cat? How many loose screws do I have?
2nd story: Husband should take action against his employer, even if it means receptionist and/or HR reps get fired! There was a restraining order, so giving out the information was breaking the law.
I'm willing to bet at least part of the HR meeting he was called into happened precisely because the company knew they fucked up and wanted to know what they needed to do for him not to pursue further action.
That's not how restraining orders work, at all. It was not against the law in any way for them to give out that information (though it was likely against company policy). There's just no case there to "take action" over to begin with. Not disclosing the information was a _courtesy_ that most companies would provide because it's just clearly a good thing to do (for a variety of reasons), but they have *absolutely no legal obligation* to do it, and even if they did, this case was clearly a mistake made by the individual employee (who will likely be facing some disciplinary action for the lapse), not actually the company's fault.
@@foogod4237you’re right. There’s not a law where a company cannot give personal information out in the event of a restraining order. And considering it was sent to the work number and his home details/number wasn’t given out there’s probably little in regards to a company policy violation. BUT that doesn’t mean there couldn’t be backlash to their actions. Fair chance a court wouldn’t look favorable on an employer who was aware of a restraining order and attempted murder against an employee (or in this case employees child) who willing gives the said person the company contact information for the employee. It’s more a civil suit sorta deal but HR would definitely not want to be in the news for releasing information of an employee to someone who they KNEW was supposed to be as far away as possible after trying to murder the employees kid (yes that was attempted murder). Way too much bad press
I mean, assuming OP was being literal, the receptionist hadn't been told about the situation. So I don't see why they would get in trouble instead of whoever it was in HR that dropped the ball and didn't place a note on that employees file saying his info was not to be shared because he was hiding from a crazy old bat that tried to kill his kid.
@@mizu7662 Yeah, I don't think the receptionist should necessarily draw fire if it was HR's fault for not making sure everyone knew. Knowing how most companies work, the receptionist was probably the only one who got in trouble anyway.
@@Some_Guy_6 No, attempted murder requires that you actually intended to kill the person, which she clearly did not. Legally, this was just reckless endangerment (of a child), which is why the OP even said that was what she was actually charged with. (If she had actually died, it probably would have been considered involuntary manslaughter.)
@@foogod4237Firstly, attempted murder does seem appropriate to me, and even if it didn’t, reckless endangerment would not be the appropriate charge here. Wanton endangerment would be, since it was a deliberate act, and wanton means deliberate and unprovoked.
There's a horrifying Reddit story where the MIL deliberately uses coconut oil on her grandchild who is violently allergic. The child died. She was convicted of murder.
I wonder if the old bat was trying to "prove" that the child's allergy was all in her mother's head? I've also heard of MIL's who deliberately include their DIL's allergens in the food they serve.
@@MsAnimefan95 Wow, that's just idiotic. Poison is poison, even if it is "just" an allergy. I read a story about a ladies' book club that met for potluck lunches. One woman had a severe life threatening food allergy that she made known to the whole group. Another woman was just not convinced that it wasn't "all in her head". So she confided in a third member that she had secretly added the death ingredient to her dish, so that she could prove to the victim, once and for all, that she wasn't really allergic. The third person first told the victim, then the whole group, what this idiot woman was up to. She was summarily booted from the group, end of story.
ANOTHER story about people who don’t believe allergies are real?! How can people think they’re fake?! WHY would someone bother doing it?! Why would you risk poisoning someone like that?!
My speculation on their thinking is that they think of it from a very self-centered perspective. They think "Well, _I_ can eat those things just fine, and everyone _else_ that I know eats them just fine, so it couldn't possibly be that someone _can't_ eat those things!" and as explained, the Mother In Law is crazy enough to think that the baby she thinks is so perfect can't possibly "Have something wrong with her".
That happens very often in Asian countries. May times in Thailand I found a news about teachers proving allergic to egg/soy did not exist, because we believe it's "too basic to be allergic to" I actually heard of a Doberman who allergic to chicken via my friends who worked as a vet too.
people believe in healing stones, hollow earth, chemtrails. lots of layers to why this crap is spreading but one part of it is manipulation tactics. online grifters that spread such misinformation with sensationalistic bs. the type of people that end up falling for it are then being taken advantage of by the grifters who spread these lies, taking advantage of people like that clearly being not the brightest bunch. thats how they make money out of stupid people. it's probably also a thing of wanting to feel "special" and "knowing something others don't" on the part of the stupid person. imagine being an underachiever and slow in the head. you'd have to make yourself feel better about it by looking for something that you can run with and say "i know more than these sheep!". it's a sad and exploitable coping mechanism.
I'm not even halfway through the first story and I already say "go NC with Monster-in-Law and never look back, even if it means divorcing the husband!"
OMG, that MIL Karen. I have a granddaughter, my oldest (and third grandchild of 9) who was born with SEVERE allergies to tree nuts. Peanuts are legumes and are fine, but anything like pecans, cashews, walnuts, or even the acorns off the oak trees here are poison. The school knew, they had an Epi pen for her. I have two here for emergencies. We didn't understand why she got sick a lot and had eczema constantly in the fall until I realized the oak tree outside of their apartment was dropping acorns and then people drove over then when they went through the parking lot. They finally moved to a house and there are no oaks around. Kid's eczema has cleared up completely. She was able to tell people she had the allergy when she was 5 and wouldn't eat anything if she knew (or saw) nuts in it. She's now in college and teaching in a daycare to earn tuition money. And she knows at least three kids in the school with allergies and she's very careful because she knows how it feels. I'm afraid that I would have been in jail for both of the mother-in-laws in this edition of Darkfluff. Screw with my family, try to harm us, and there will be some serious consequences.
Assuming the defense of another's life is an affermative legal defense if you can show a reasonable cause to belive the life or bodily well beeing is in danger if their agressor isn't stopped immediately by the most decisive means availiable.
Story 2: Uh…child endangerment (intentional or not) is not worth trying to disprove the existence of allergies. If someone tells you they're allergic, it's better to play it safe and not give them anything with said allergen. As for afterwards, MIL needs to go to a psych ward or something, whatever keeps her from having any chance of getting NEAR OP's Family.
And what a dumb excuse she “accidentally“ let the cat out to pee, no she intentionally let it out. So what would happen in that scenario with the child?
Final Story - Wow that was insane. First MIL nearly kills her granddaughter then she goes full blown Bat-***t Psycho on OP and her own son when they forbid her from ever seeing their daughter again and filed a restraining order against her. To those people who told OP that it’s her and her husband’s duty to get MIL help and support her through it… I’m saying Hell No! The MIL needs more than help, she needs a psychiatric asylum cause she’s clearly out of her mind.
They could sue to put MiL under a conservatorship and have her institutionalised... Or, they could aquire personal defense firearms, training and move to a castle doctrine state.
@@SonsOfLorgar It's virtually impossible to have someone involuntarily committed to a psychiatric institution. If the law declined to jail her, that's the end of the story as far removing her from the general population. They had every right, and good sense, to get restraining orders and keep this woman away from their child but at the end of the day, it's not a crime to be crazy.
Family saying the parents were wrong for what they did to MIL-that’s not even up to them at that point. The hospital is obligated to report. They should be blaming the person or intentionally poisoned a child…
Story 1 happened nearly three years ago and has two updates. 1) MIL showed up on the day of the move and literally blocked them in with a truck. She was "escorted away" by police. Later on, MIL was only fined and had to replace everything that she was caught on camera stealing and destroying. The the brother-in-law was "working" on cutting her out of his life as well 2) It turns out "Brother in Law" was actually a traitor and was telling crazy karen EVERYTHING. MIL showed up to OP's work and harassed her only to be thrown out. They then cut the BIL out of their lives as well because they found out that he was leaking everything that happens in their lives to karen
1st story. Move, go no-contact. Sad that your eventual child will be short one grandparent but as far as I'm concerned that witch would never, never, ever, have any contact with any child of mine and she could drown in her own tears.
Because they can't wrap their heads around the idea that something _they_ and _other people_ eat just fine could possibly hurt you. For them, something either has to hurt _everybody_ or _nobody_
They perceive the allergies of other people as a restriction of themselves first and foremost (because they have to police their own behavior in order to not inadvertently bring the allergic person in contact with the allergen). They simply hate being restricted and don't have to fear their actions impacting their own personal health. It's just deeply selfish and unempathetic behavior.
Story 2: They need to inform the local PD about the restraining order, or perhaps even get a new one that's binding in that state. The last thing they want is MIL showing up and convincing the local PD somehow to give out their new address.
So restraining orders are required to be enforced on a federal level, specifically so that they carry over if a party moves states. I am actually following a case right now where a Florida sheriff is getting sued for refusing to enforce an Ohio restraining order.
That was absolutely insane! I'm not just shaking my head, I'm doing some kind of side-to-side headbanging at this point! What kind of person tries to actively poison a child because they feel that "allergies aren't real"?!?! Oh, right... an insane one. My goodness.
S1: MIL would be in the hospital after letting my cat out! I really hate, loathe, despise people that think they have the right to do this to a family members home.
On the last update, two employees could be fired... and need to be at least be write up or something. OP husband could sue the compagny (no matter the current circonstance) for leaking the information. I know this information is not reaching everybody, but in the last decade, laws have been add on the security, manipulation, use and conservation of personnal information. Consequence of failing to follow laws and recommandation are now very very harsh legally. It wasn't a joke before, but with these new set of law, it's now a good way to be in deep poop! Technically speaking, I'm pretty sure any employee is authorize to provide any informaton on anybody unless they have a sign authorization from that person. So many thing can go wrong on "the assomption" and "good will".... like in this story.
I'm so glad both husbands immediately sided with their wives and were like "this behaviour is absolutely not ok". Jesus. I have heard of a similar story to #2 but the kid actually died when the monster-in-law refused to accept "allergic to coconut" (also the kids were twins, and the other wasn't, also it was part of the cultural diet). Granny insisted it was the only way to treat their hair properly, and ended up with the kid being exposed overnight and passing away.
Story 2: Husband should pursue legal action against his employer. He moved to get away from his psycho stalker of a mom who he has a restraining order against. They put his family in danger by releasing information about his change in location (really all they should have said is "He no longer works for our office") and the receptionist should have been able to see a basic file/note stating to not give out any personal information. MIL has proven she doesn't care about the RO and WILL break it, so now OP and her family has the added stress of wondering WHEN it's going to happen.
I don't think husband would have a leg to stand on. Yes, he warned the company that he had a potential problem, but the company would be under no obligation to do anything about it, and EVERYONE in the company would have to be told that "so-and-so's mother has a restraining order, so do not release his information to any female that rings in..". and do the same for every employee that feels they have a problem. Can you imagine the emails and memo's? Ms. So-and-so has a zinc intolerance, so please avoid wearing metal near her. Mr such-and-such is fearful of loud noises, so all company telephones should be set to 'vibrate only', and please would everyone speak below 60dB? Nah. Won't happen.
@@sarumano884 Depending on where you are actually many employers have policies against telling others about their employees and the hours they keep. In fact I think Ontario, Canada might have a law against it, but I'm not positive. It makes absolute sense to not give out personal information about a person. It would be better to indicate they no longer work there, or to take a message without giving away their contact information. As for your other examples it is ideal to know of others allergies and issues and be mindful of them when possible - like the story talks about someone not doing.
No matter how many times I hear stories about people who don't believe in allergies it still boggles my mind that someone would rather risk a life try to prove someone wrong rather then take it with a grain of salt
My Uncle thought I was doing it for attention, my ex thought I was makinit up. Both of them changed their minds when I had a visceral reaction in front of them - though thankfully the ingestion was accidental both times
*Story 1-* Before we got married, my in-laws couldn’t stand me! They even tried talking my hubby out of marrying me the night before the wedding!!! They always said I wasn’t good enough for him, and never made me feel comfortable around them. I could never be in the same room with them alone, and I always had to be with my hubby when they were there! I’m just glad it’s not that way with my hubby and my parents! He actually feels a lot more comfortable/relaxed around _my_ parents than he does with his own parents!!!
She should have sued for abandoning or selling or even KILLING her cat as that’s clearly what the MIL did and force her to go get the cat and sue her for STEALING their items and breaking into their house
Why on earth would OP even leave the cat with her, she knows the woman doesn't like her and doesn't like cats, that's a recipe for an issue. Call a pet sitter, ask a neighbor to check in, anything but the crazy woman who has been nothing but vile towards you.
I accidentally caused a friend to lose her BF. She had a couple drinks at a bar and didn't realize she was allergic to pineapples and similar fruits. Her BF drives her to my house where my GF (her best friend) is a nurse and could tell something was wrong. Well, since I'd been friends with her for so many years, she grabbed onto me for support and basically laid her head on my stomach. Her BF was not happy but I didn't care. There was nothing intimate going on between us, but for some reason she just wanted me for support because she was scared out of her mind. Let's just say her BF didn't last for very long. I later found out he wanted to beat the crap out of me for that incident (twice my size).
Technically, no. There’s nothing to indicate the MIL intended the child harm (if she had, she wouldn’t have woken up OP for help when the reaction began), so that throws out murder. And even if the child hadn’t been saved, it still would have only been manslaughter paired with the reckless endangerment charge. The fact that she planned the endangerment so carefully probably should have merited more than a slap on the wrist, though, I’ll heartily agree with that.
@@theoneguyoverthere wrong. Willful ignorance is not a legal defense. Though in this case, the only definitive sollution is weighted in grains and wears a partial copper jacket.
No, she'd been told her granddaughter was allergic, but went ahead and forced the allergens on the child. By keeping it secret she made it clear she knew what she was doing was wrong. She intended to give a child food she'd been told could kill them -- that's premeditated.
@@theoneguyoverthere she was told those actions could greatly harm or kill the child but she chose to do them anyways. She willingly chose to do something that would hurt in the child.
OP1 needed to grow a damn backbone long before she did. Seriously! How many times were you going to let yourself get disrespected by that witch!? And what the f was her “husband” doing during all this *_for years!?_*
I understand your point... but low self esteem is a big pain in the a** to correct... and longer it's an issue, harder it is to change the pattern of thinking.
Op in the first story needs a restraining order and to move cross country, to get away from MIL. In the second story your MIL just attempted man slaughter.
Everytime I hear the banana cookie story I think of the coconut story (I don’t remember if you’ve covered this before but it would be cool to hear it again!) The coconut story is when another allergy MIL was babysitting these twin daughters for the OP and had to rush one of them to the hospital in the middle of the night because she took one of the twins (WITH A COCONUT ALLERGY) and covered her curly hair in coconut oil (to both girls. Only one is allergic and she knew this very very VERY well) and then was suprised when THE TWIN DIED IN THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE SHE WAS LEFT WITH IT IN FOR HOURS.
I thought it was both twins that were allergic to coconut but one just happened to survive probably because she was the last one who had it put on her hair. So the poor girl just barely survived.
First story actually has a lot of updates - the missing items, clothes and jewelry... the MIL was wearing and posting pictures on Facebook all along with her wearing them. But MIL has blocked OP and her husband from seeing them. Also, OP and husband are cutting of BIL and his husband as they have been blabbing about life updates to MIL, including and abortion OP had. MIL showed up at OPs work calling her a baby killer. MIL did get charged previously, for trashing the house, but just got a slap in the wrist, really.
It pisses me off how many of the evil psycho Karens in these stories get a slap on the wrist. There seems to be a strong correlation with them being a family member or woman.
Asking the MIL to cat-sit was a stupid move. All OP had to do was get a water fountain and a dry food dispenser for her cat. The cat would be fine for the two days that OP was away. She knew MIL would take advantage of any circumstance to hurt her.
I am certain that MIL either killed the cat or drove the cat somewhere far away and released it out in the middle of nowhere (and thus killing it). Monster.
Story 2 is the worst case scenario I imagined my mil pulling. (She's gotten close with a few different situations. ) So, there was a Thanksgiving fight where grandpa and grandma insulted me in front of my son and niece. We couldn't leave until mil brought us home because our car was broken down. Hardest thing after that was telling my son through tears that the grandparents he loved said something really hurtful, what it meant, and why it made mommy cry when she got home. He was 4. We don't make an effort to see them any more than necessary, and nothing will be necessary enough they will be my ride ever again. Not even Christmas. The parents were told right, though. The kid has to know that they weren't just mysteriously getting sick. Someone they loved did it to them, and that's why they can't spend time like before. It's not easy, especially when the pair has a close bond. I am waiting for my in-laws next blow up about how I no longer make eye contact with them. Hard to explain to a narcissist how decades of trauma from people screaming insults at me would leave me vulnerable to being traumatized by peoplescreaming insults at me. And they were aware of my history. We had known each other for over a decade by the incident and had those conversations around campfires...but again, narcissists. I hope I can call them that then. Hopefully the truth cuts enough that they change. But they are narcissists, so I don't expect much. Boomers, too. Wish me luck!
There's no way that the cat just "disappeared" since cats become attached to places rather than to people (except for certain breeds). Presuming the story is true (which most stories on reddit are not), the cat was almost certainly taken to a vet and "put down" or was taken too far away for it to find its own way home. If it had just been "let out" whether by mistake or otherwise, it would have returned to the house when it was hungry.
If allergies didn't exist, then I wouldn't have to be taking a Zyrtec every day. I'm also deathly allergic to penicillin, and sulfa gives me Steven Johnson's. I also have a skin allergy to nylon, so I have to thoroughly check clothing labels. 😕 That MIL needs to be in prison for premeditated attempted murder. 👿
My mom nearly died from SJS back in the late ‘70s after taking a sulfa drug that was relatively new to the market. Turns out that in the 18 months it had been available, 11 other people had come down with SJS, but she was the first to survive. Her lawsuit was the reason SJS was added to the list of possible side effects. She still has issues with dry eyes and scars on her body from the amount of skin she lost. I tell new doctors that I might have inherited that allergy, since I’ve discovered while researching the topic that there is a one in three chance that I have.
@@djrosette Steven Johnsons Syndrome, it's a disease that occurs as a reaction to medication. "Early symptoms of SJS include fever and flu-like symptoms. A few days later, the skin begins to blister and peel, forming painful raw areas. Mucous membranes, such as the mouth, are also typically involved. Complications include dehydration, sepsis, pneumonia and multiple organ failure."- wikipedia
@@djrosette It’s Stevens Johnson Syndrome. It can be (and most frequently is) an allergic reaction, usually to medication, but it can also arise from an unknown source. It is a dermatological condition shown in skin loss, hair loss, eyes can become badly affected to the point of permanent blindness (warning: graphic medical description ahead-when I mentioned the family history to my optometrist, he gave me a horrified look because he had seen only one case in his long career, a young boy in the hospital, and he said that poor kid’s eyes had liquified), up to and including death. The condition is rated on a scale of the amount of damage to the body-I forget what the most minor level is called, SJS is given to the moderate level, and TENS is given to the most severe level. My mother’s current doctor, when looking at her medical history and hearing what she had to say about her bout, thinks that she would be rated as TENS instead of SJS if she got sick today. She had skin loss over 50% of her body, lost just about all of her hair, and spent nearly a month in the burn ward of one of Chicago’s best hospitals since it is such a rare condition and was even rarer in the late ‘70s. There is no way to cure SJS/TENS, all you can do is give palliative care for the symptoms. I gave a presentation on it for a library school class on health reference since I have that connection with it. I warned my classmates before I showed pictures of patients, but even so, their reactions were extremely distressed. So, the same word of warning to anyone who might want to research it themselves.
OP 1.... WHY would you be so STUPID enough to trust her with your cat's safety and well-being when she had "lost" or destroyed things of yours???!!! 🤬 That poor cat! 😿😭
It sucks to say but the mother-in-law killed that cat that cat was put down.... And I don't think it was done professionally because that would have left a paper trail so I honestly think that mother-in-law murdered their cat and I feel just sick to my stomach thinking about that poor animals last minutes of life
Story 2- I would so be giving that company an earful before deciding if they'd like to continue it through lawyers in court. They were told not to give out details, failed to do that, them have the gall to pull the husband in for a meeting with HR like it's his fault? Oh, no you don't!
That father-in-law needs to divorce his wife because that's just psycho behavior to go into another person's house and do that shit. Also I help her brother-in-law does the same thing and puts her on the restraining order too.
Story 1 and update 1, I'm not surprised that jnmil tried such tactics to harm op. Definitely not surprised that she tried to lie to her son and stutter excuses despite everyone knowing how much she hates op plus malicious. Typical that she started leaving passive aggressive messages to op because she blames op for her son now having a strained relationship with her despite everything she's done. Last update, not surprised that she broke into the house to trash it. She couldn't stand that op blocked her and her son ignoring her so she tried to get "revenge", specially on op. She only proved how psycho she gets when she doesn't get her way, which is op gone. Fil is no better for just immediately bailing her out despite everything she's done, definitely cut him as well, since he just wants to enable her. Definitely not surprised that she now stays away from them after she got arrested. She probably now realizes that her son was serious about her getting her arrested and is now sulking that her son will stand up to her. But i wouldn't put it past her to try something again as she believes everything is op's fault.
My friend's son had serious allergies and she had problems with stupid people who didn't know the difference between a child not liking certain foods and being allergic to them. "Don't worry! I won't tell him there are nuts in that dessert!"
Last story: OP see if your husband's employer would be willing to file a restraining order against MIL as well as send MIL a cease and desist letter that states that MIL is to no longer contact the company or ANYONE who works for the company and that her son has now been transferred to a new office somewhere else in the country. But then OP and hubby stay in their current city and hope that MIL starts looking elsewhere. Also, OP be careful of friend's social media posts as MIL might try to track you that way. You would be surprised at how easy it is to make a fake account and track someone down through just their friend's posts.
Story 1: Use your video footage to get a restraining order against MIL ASAP! Were you able to recover your baking equipment and jewelry? Story 2: Here's hoping MIL does get some jail time for violating the RO. Hopefully, she can also be placed in an involuntary psych hold.
When you have the baby in the hospital, you and your husband should have a code. That only you to know and don't tell her when you give birth or wear or with gender, it is.
The MIL dressing as the bride at OP's wedding pretty well shows the MIL's motive in all this. She wanted to take OP's place in every sense with OP's husband. I imagine OP's clothes and jewelry made MIL wet thinking about being OP. And she threw away everything that was a part of OP otherwise to mentally remove her from the marriage.
My mother was allergic to Penecillin and honey. People kept telling her that honey was healthy and she wasn't allergic. She couldn't even have a bite of a graham crack without breaking out in hives. She was definitely allergic!!
The last story though, that is why our receptionist is told to never give up the direct extension of anyone. They can write e-mails, and if they are allready in contact with a specific person they would have gotten the extension.
1) Hopefully the OP got full financial restitution for the damages and theft done by the MIL. 2) Hard to believe that there are still people out there that don't believe allergies exist. Kind of sad that people are just so ignorant and incapable of learning.
Psycho mom in law "lost control of her little boy" and he started making his own choices without her consent. That puts narcissism into hyperdrive. They're good to move. She's the kind of crazy to steal "her " grandchild.
Story 2: in Iowa, that's Child Endangerment Causing Serious Injury, a C felony (max 10 years prison). The "slap on the wrist" would have been probation with a suspended prison sentence. The first time she violated the RO she would have gone to prison for a long time.
@@SonsOfLorgar Or worse, a Democrat judge, as they tend to be far, far more lenient on crime in general. Just look up the census statistics sometime...
The last story today just breaks my heart. I hope everyone in your family is OK and I’m sorry that you had to go through something like that. I hope and pray that your mother-in-law never darkens your door again.
My mother didn't believe me when I explained that I got lactose intolerant with age. So one day, she wanted to prove me wrong and made a desert with whole milk. I got so sick that day! What's worse? She still don't believe I'm intolerant to lactose. "It was something else". Sometimes, mothers are never wrong.
OMG that couple with the allergy daughter needs to get new phone numbers. And get your security system installed. Also what's The story of the father-in-law maybe it has something to do with her behavior, that's my question?
2nd story. Op "My husband is having a hard time he feels like his mother just died" Me to op's husband "Hate to break it to you man but your mother died years ago and that demon that is giving life to and controlling her body is not your mother"
Both of the mother-in-laws in these stories needs to be committed. I doubt either of them could maintain a sane facade long enough in front of a psychologist to avoid it.
With a nutcase like the MIL from story 1, might be a good idea to put multiple locks on every external door, at least 3, from 3 different brands, that way, she gets her hands on one key, she still ain't getting in, and putting a secondary barrier on any windows (or make sure the windows ain't glass), along with dual locking mechanisms, if possible
Allergies: Many (narcissistic) people don't believe anything they themselves haven't experienced and are so sure they're right about everything that they cannot be dissuaded. In my old section at work, two out of 12 of us had diabetes, but our supervisor, who had a master's degree in biochemistry, had never had symptoms of hypoglycemia so did NOT believe it existed, and resisted allowing any accommodations for it. One day we had a doctor (a forensic pathologist, no less, visit our section for the day. When we all went out to lunch, my supervisor announced publicly, "Well, OP, we've got you now! Doctor, is it true that diabetics get hypoglycemia so bad they can't function normally?" The doctor just looked at him like something that just crawled out from under a rock and said, "Absolutely! Then they have seizures or pass out, THEN THEY DIE!!" The supervisor never stood in the way of our needs after that, but looked pissed each time until he was eventually removed to a position where he didn't work with, or supervise, anyone! When he retired, only myself and one employee of a different section (out of a 60-person division) attended his retirement party....
I can't believe she(the mom) would do that to her son.. not only did she trash his place also,but destroyed his&hers relationship.. Wow!!! I mean,now after listening to the second story, I'm so shocked!!!!
A friends mother-in-law was horrible to her for over 4 years, her son always made an excuse for his mother until we had an intervention and told him ALL of the things his mom did to our friend. But then 2 years after the intervention that really didn't change anything (plus she got along great with fil and 2 sil and 1 bil) she got pregnant, 9 months later our friend has come home from the hospital with her baby and her mil goes to reach for the baby and our friend said, "betcha wish you treated me a lot better now, because NO, you can't hold her. And fil, sil's and bil and their husband and wives laughting out-loud". The other il's got treated a bit better but not much. She only got to see the baby but never hold her, and she was never allowed to babysit. When she ask her son he told her she did it to herself and sided with our friend. We were shocked. It's 18 years later and their 3 kids know exactly what grandmother is about and don't want to see her much.
I feel so bad for these families with crazy MILs. My MIL was one of the kindest, funniest, most generous people I knew. (My own mother was abusive.) She always made me feel welcome. I loved my MIL and miss her as she has since passed. But she was very much loved. It's a shame that everyone can't have that experience. That last story, they might have a case for stalking if she's trying to find them after they have moved.
First story: I suspect that MIL didn't just accidentally "let the cat out". Cats usually come back home if they are okay. She took it somewhere, and I wouldn't even be surprised if she had killed it somehow.
First one: This young lady needed to walk away from this woman's son. He needs to grow a pair and let his mother know she has no say and will not be included in any family affairs.
In regards to the allergy post. My daughter has coeliac disease. When she was diagnosed she was 11/12. She went on visitations with her father (my ex,) and he refused to believe anything i said, even with supporting hospital/doctor information/documentation. He continued to give her gluten, she would go there for a weekend every 2 weeks and would continually come home sick. Courts took no notice of the fact she was allergic, and was constantly sick after visitations, telling me what goes on in his house and how he feeds our daughter, was his business. I suppose if a governmental institution, can disregard an allergy issue, anybody can.
Concerning story #1, I would've told MiL that the ex-girlfriend was dumped because she wanted "daddy" (aka FiL). Concerning story #2, I can tell Mil ALL about allergies (I have *several* severe allergies that I grew up with, including dogs [not cats].) MiL could've been charged with attempted murder! She got off lightly!
Anyone ever notice how narcissists hate cats? I think because they can't be controlled or made to like you. You have to be genuine with cats and let them come to you.
Story 1: her "end goal" was to have the final say in everything as a position of power (a mother) and try and control her son (by proxy OP)'s lives and doing it, in that creepy controlling behavior, like moving and rearranging furniture, or getting rid of things she either doesn't like or doesn't think are necessary, or put up "the forbidden sign"
Allergies can be very serious. I learned that the hard way when I woke up one night with a full body rash. Not sure what caused it to this day, just that I spent two weeks with the feeling of my skin being lit on fire almost every day before I could see a doctor who could prescribe me some allergy meds to get rid of the rashes. I still take them to this day. Bottom line, allergies are real, scary and can strike without warning. MIL should've spent the rest of her life in jail for what she pulled.
(For the first story) as a Doberman owner, I definitely approve of op & her husband getting a Dobbie (however this is a dog that needs plenty of attention & socialization, not just training)
The horrific part of Story 2 is that the District Attorney, Police, & Court failed a little child by not filing charges of Premeditated Attempted Unalivement against Crazy Granny. Then they allow her to continue walking thru the Restraining Order & Not Charging her with Stalking!! Are they all waiting until she either unalives the child or someone else or kidnaps the child before taking this Lunatic's threat seriously?! OP & Hubby need to press for harsher charges & possibly even changing companies & even countries to protect their kiddos!!
Story 1 - When OP said that things had been moved and gone missing from their home, I had a feeling that it was the MIL who was responsible. I also have a sinking feeling that she took OP’s cat to be put down out of pure spite. All in all that MIL is a freak’n psychopath! I hope that her husband severed all ties with her, and that they’re both safe and that he and OP filed a restraining order against MIL.
My question is why do these people continue the same path knowing that this person is destructive? At a certain point you're just going back for more pain and torture.... Guess my tolerance for this kind of shenanigans is extremely low
I feel so bad for the cat, the poor thing was loved and must have been so scared and alone.
Sherlock Holmes envies you, seriously...
@@biscuitninjaI agree. Once I find out you don't like me, I'm done. Your opinion of me isn't at all important in my life. I would keep my distance, making sure my SO knows my reasons. If he has a problem with it I'm sorry but that's his problem. I don't love anyone enough that I would let his crazy ass mother mentally abuse me. Sorry, ain't happen'.
MIL was a witch from day 1, but OP still asked her to watch her cat? How could OP talk about the awful things MIL did and said to her and about her and then turn around and ask MIL to tend to her beloved cat? Steal my property, verbally abuse me and slander me, and then I ask her to watch my cat? How many loose screws do I have?
2nd story: Husband should take action against his employer, even if it means receptionist and/or HR reps get fired! There was a restraining order, so giving out the information was breaking the law.
I'm willing to bet at least part of the HR meeting he was called into happened precisely because the company knew they fucked up and wanted to know what they needed to do for him not to pursue further action.
That's not how restraining orders work, at all. It was not against the law in any way for them to give out that information (though it was likely against company policy).
There's just no case there to "take action" over to begin with. Not disclosing the information was a _courtesy_ that most companies would provide because it's just clearly a good thing to do (for a variety of reasons), but they have *absolutely no legal obligation* to do it, and even if they did, this case was clearly a mistake made by the individual employee (who will likely be facing some disciplinary action for the lapse), not actually the company's fault.
@@foogod4237you’re right. There’s not a law where a company cannot give personal information out in the event of a restraining order. And considering it was sent to the work number and his home details/number wasn’t given out there’s probably little in regards to a company policy violation. BUT that doesn’t mean there couldn’t be backlash to their actions. Fair chance a court wouldn’t look favorable on an employer who was aware of a restraining order and attempted murder against an employee (or in this case employees child) who willing gives the said person the company contact information for the employee. It’s more a civil suit sorta deal but HR would definitely not want to be in the news for releasing information of an employee to someone who they KNEW was supposed to be as far away as possible after trying to murder the employees kid (yes that was attempted murder). Way too much bad press
I mean, assuming OP was being literal, the receptionist hadn't been told about the situation. So I don't see why they would get in trouble instead of whoever it was in HR that dropped the ball and didn't place a note on that employees file saying his info was not to be shared because he was hiding from a crazy old bat that tried to kill his kid.
@@mizu7662 Yeah, I don't think the receptionist should necessarily draw fire if it was HR's fault for not making sure everyone knew. Knowing how most companies work, the receptionist was probably the only one who got in trouble anyway.
The daughter was allergic to dairy and eggs as well, not just peanuts and bananas. So the cookie had all four allergens in it, not just two.
That's 100% attempted murder anyway.
@@Some_Guy_6 There's a story about a MiL who actually killed the poor kid by not believing in her coconut allergy.
@@damienhailey118Yup, I remember that story. Very sad.
@@Some_Guy_6 No, attempted murder requires that you actually intended to kill the person, which she clearly did not.
Legally, this was just reckless endangerment (of a child), which is why the OP even said that was what she was actually charged with.
(If she had actually died, it probably would have been considered involuntary manslaughter.)
@@foogod4237Firstly, attempted murder does seem appropriate to me, and even if it didn’t, reckless endangerment would not be the appropriate charge here. Wanton endangerment would be, since it was a deliberate act, and wanton means deliberate and unprovoked.
There's a horrifying Reddit story where the MIL deliberately uses coconut oil on her grandchild who is violently allergic. The child died. She was convicted of murder.
I remember that one from r/JustNoMIL. I remember story 2 from there as well. The MIL from story 2 got the nickname "Death Cookies" there.
I wonder if the old bat was trying to "prove" that the child's allergy was all in her mother's head? I've also heard of MIL's who deliberately include their DIL's allergens in the food they serve.
I found the post, but it looks like she was just investigated, but never arrested.
@@MsAnimefan95 Wow, that's just idiotic. Poison is poison, even if it is "just" an allergy. I read a story about a ladies' book club that met for potluck lunches. One woman had a severe life threatening food allergy that she made known to the whole group. Another woman was just not convinced that it wasn't "all in her head". So she confided in a third member that she had secretly added the death ingredient to her dish, so that she could prove to the victim, once and for all, that she wasn't really allergic. The third person first told the victim, then the whole group, what this idiot woman was up to. She was summarily booted from the group, end of story.
omg, this is disturbing! hell with this woman!!
ANOTHER story about people who don’t believe allergies are real?! How can people think they’re fake?! WHY would someone bother doing it?! Why would you risk poisoning someone like that?!
My speculation on their thinking is that they think of it from a very self-centered perspective.
They think "Well, _I_ can eat those things just fine, and everyone _else_ that I know eats them just fine, so it couldn't possibly be that someone _can't_ eat those things!"
and as explained, the Mother In Law is crazy enough to think that the baby she thinks is so perfect can't possibly "Have something wrong with her".
@@balanc-joy9187self-centered, narcissistic, dangerously stupid, those are all pretty good descriptors
@@brendanboomhour7606 Yep
That happens very often in Asian countries. May times in Thailand I found a news about teachers proving allergic to egg/soy did not exist, because we believe it's "too basic to be allergic to"
I actually heard of a Doberman who allergic to chicken via my friends who worked as a vet too.
people believe in healing stones, hollow earth, chemtrails.
lots of layers to why this crap is spreading but one part of it is manipulation tactics. online grifters that spread such misinformation with sensationalistic bs.
the type of people that end up falling for it are then being taken advantage of by the grifters who spread these lies, taking advantage of people like that clearly being not the brightest bunch. thats how they make money out of stupid people.
it's probably also a thing of wanting to feel "special" and "knowing something others don't" on the part of the stupid person. imagine being an underachiever and slow in the head. you'd have to make yourself feel better about it by looking for something that you can run with and say "i know more than these sheep!". it's a sad and exploitable coping mechanism.
I'm not even halfway through the first story and I already say "go NC with Monster-in-Law and never look back, even if it means divorcing the husband!"
OP needs a restraining order against Monster In Law.
Same here!
OMG, that MIL Karen. I have a granddaughter, my oldest (and third grandchild of 9) who was born with SEVERE allergies to tree nuts. Peanuts are legumes and are fine, but anything like pecans, cashews, walnuts, or even the acorns off the oak trees here are poison. The school knew, they had an Epi pen for her. I have two here for emergencies. We didn't understand why she got sick a lot and had eczema constantly in the fall until I realized the oak tree outside of their apartment was dropping acorns and then people drove over then when they went through the parking lot. They finally moved to a house and there are no oaks around. Kid's eczema has cleared up completely. She was able to tell people she had the allergy when she was 5 and wouldn't eat anything if she knew (or saw) nuts in it. She's now in college and teaching in a daycare to earn tuition money. And she knows at least three kids in the school with allergies and she's very careful because she knows how it feels.
I'm afraid that I would have been in jail for both of the mother-in-laws in this edition of Darkfluff. Screw with my family, try to harm us, and there will be some serious consequences.
Assuming the defense of another's life is an affermative legal defense if you can show a reasonable cause to belive the life or bodily well beeing is in danger if their agressor isn't stopped immediately by the most decisive means availiable.
Story 1, you can tell op is a cook first, she was more pissed about her cooking pans before her jewelry lmfao...
Story 2: Uh…child endangerment (intentional or not) is not worth trying to disprove the existence of allergies. If someone tells you they're allergic, it's better to play it safe and not give them anything with said allergen.
As for afterwards, MIL needs to go to a psych ward or something, whatever keeps her from having any chance of getting NEAR OP's Family.
They need to sue for putting MiL under conservatorship and get her locked up permanently.
If MIL couldn't pet sit without the pet getting "list", there's no way in hell I'd let her alone with a hunan child!
And what a dumb excuse she “accidentally“ let the cat out to pee, no she intentionally let it out. So what would happen in that scenario with the child?
The woman with the crazy mother-in-law needs to move far away!!! They will never get any peace.
They need to move to Ireland.
@@maryedwards6108 that was my thought as well
Which one? Both? Both are crazy.
@@maryedwards6108 Same bro, we think alike!
Final Story - Wow that was insane. First MIL nearly kills her granddaughter then she goes full blown Bat-***t Psycho on OP and her own son when they forbid her from ever seeing their daughter again and filed a restraining order against her.
To those people who told OP that it’s her and her husband’s duty to get MIL help and support her through it… I’m saying Hell No! The MIL needs more than help, she needs a psychiatric asylum cause she’s clearly out of her mind.
They could sue to put MiL under a conservatorship and have her institutionalised...
Or, they could aquire personal defense firearms, training and move to a castle doctrine state.
@@SonsOfLorgar It's virtually impossible to have someone involuntarily committed to a psychiatric institution. If the law declined to jail her, that's the end of the story as far removing her from the general population. They had every right, and good sense, to get restraining orders and keep this woman away from their child but at the end of the day, it's not a crime to be crazy.
Family saying the parents were wrong for what they did to MIL-that’s not even up to them at that point. The hospital is obligated to report. They should be blaming the person or intentionally poisoned a child…
Story 1 happened nearly three years ago and has two updates.
1) MIL showed up on the day of the move and literally blocked them in with a truck. She was "escorted away" by police. Later on, MIL was only fined and had to replace everything that she was caught on camera stealing and destroying. The the brother-in-law was "working" on cutting her out of his life as well
2) It turns out "Brother in Law" was actually a traitor and was telling crazy karen EVERYTHING. MIL showed up to OP's work and harassed her only to be thrown out. They then cut the BIL out of their lives as well because they found out that he was leaking everything that happens in their lives to karen
Any update on MIL's court case?
@@weylinwest9505I'm here to see if there's an answer tp your Q.
1st story. Move, go no-contact. Sad that your eventual child will be short one grandparent but as far as I'm concerned that witch would never, never, ever, have any contact with any child of mine and she could drown in her own tears.
Why does anyone think food allergies are fake? I don't have any, but I know well enough that other people do have them.
Because they can't wrap their heads around the idea that something _they_ and _other people_ eat just fine could possibly hurt you. For them, something either has to hurt _everybody_ or _nobody_
@@balanc-joy9187 and there are religious organisations that preach that misinformation.
They perceive the allergies of other people as a restriction of themselves first and foremost (because they have to police their own behavior in order to not inadvertently bring the allergic person in contact with the allergen). They simply hate being restricted and don't have to fear their actions impacting their own personal health. It's just deeply selfish and unempathetic behavior.
@@SonsOfLorgar Did not know that, thank you!
@@paperbird9817 Good point, I had not considered that one.
Story 2: They need to inform the local PD about the restraining order, or perhaps even get a new one that's binding in that state. The last thing they want is MIL showing up and convincing the local PD somehow to give out their new address.
So restraining orders are required to be enforced on a federal level, specifically so that they carry over if a party moves states. I am actually following a case right now where a Florida sheriff is getting sued for refusing to enforce an Ohio restraining order.
That was absolutely insane! I'm not just shaking my head, I'm doing some kind of side-to-side headbanging at this point! What kind of person tries to actively poison a child because they feel that "allergies aren't real"?!?! Oh, right... an insane one. My goodness.
S1: MIL would be in the hospital after letting my cat out! I really hate, loathe, despise people that think they have the right to do this to a family members home.
To the Karen who claims that allergies are fake: Allergies are very real Karen!
*YEAH AMBER HEARD!*
I had someone try and tell me that wool allergies were fake. Really. Then tell me why I break out in a rash after coming into contact with it.
On the last update, two employees could be fired... and need to be at least be write up or something. OP husband could sue the compagny (no matter the current circonstance) for leaking the information. I know this information is not reaching everybody, but in the last decade, laws have been add on the security, manipulation, use and conservation of personnal information. Consequence of failing to follow laws and recommandation are now very very harsh legally. It wasn't a joke before, but with these new set of law, it's now a good way to be in deep poop!
Technically speaking, I'm pretty sure any employee is authorize to provide any informaton on anybody unless they have a sign authorization from that person. So many thing can go wrong on "the assomption" and "good will".... like in this story.
“If I don’t see it it’s not real”
@SLOTHSRIDEUNICORNS where did that come from?
Story 2: Holy ****!!!! I’m glad you went and got a restraining order against MIL!!!! Also MIL, STOP BEING A PROBLEM FOR HER FAMILY!!!!! >:(
I'm so glad both husbands immediately sided with their wives and were like "this behaviour is absolutely not ok". Jesus.
I have heard of a similar story to #2 but the kid actually died when the monster-in-law refused to accept "allergic to coconut" (also the kids were twins, and the other wasn't, also it was part of the cultural diet). Granny insisted it was the only way to treat their hair properly, and ended up with the kid being exposed overnight and passing away.
Story 1: why do MIL/FIL always make things difficult for their in-laws because your children aren't into their parents.
For real, what's with the emotional incest. Specially when they have their own partner.
Story 2: Husband should pursue legal action against his employer. He moved to get away from his psycho stalker of a mom who he has a restraining order against. They put his family in danger by releasing information about his change in location (really all they should have said is "He no longer works for our office") and the receptionist should have been able to see a basic file/note stating to not give out any personal information. MIL has proven she doesn't care about the RO and WILL break it, so now OP and her family has the added stress of wondering WHEN it's going to happen.
I don't think husband would have a leg to stand on.
Yes, he warned the company that he had a potential problem, but the company would be under no obligation to do anything about it, and EVERYONE in the company would have to be told that "so-and-so's mother has a restraining order, so do not release his information to any female that rings in..".
and do the same for every employee that feels they have a problem.
Can you imagine the emails and memo's? Ms. So-and-so has a zinc intolerance, so please avoid wearing metal near her. Mr such-and-such is fearful of loud noises, so all company telephones should be set to 'vibrate only', and please would everyone speak below 60dB?
Nah. Won't happen.
@@sarumano884 Depending on where you are actually many employers have policies against telling others about their employees and the hours they keep. In fact I think Ontario, Canada might have a law against it, but I'm not positive. It makes absolute sense to not give out personal information about a person. It would be better to indicate they no longer work there, or to take a message without giving away their contact information. As for your other examples it is ideal to know of others allergies and issues and be mindful of them when possible - like the story talks about someone not doing.
@@HAnnB24 As I stated.
No matter how many times I hear stories about people who don't believe in allergies it still boggles my mind that someone would rather risk a life try to prove someone wrong rather then take it with a grain of salt
My Uncle thought I was doing it for attention, my ex thought I was makinit up.
Both of them changed their minds when I had a visceral reaction in front of them - though thankfully the ingestion was accidental both times
*Story 1-* Before we got married, my in-laws couldn’t stand me! They even tried talking my hubby out of marrying me the night before the wedding!!! They always said I wasn’t good enough for him, and never made me feel comfortable around them. I could never be in the same room with them alone, and I always had to be with my hubby when they were there!
I’m just glad it’s not that way with my hubby and my parents! He actually feels a lot more comfortable/relaxed around _my_ parents than he does with his own parents!!!
She should have sued for abandoning or selling or even KILLING her cat as that’s clearly what the MIL did and force her to go get the cat and sue her for STEALING their items and breaking into their house
And after that wedding disaster, why did they not aquire personal defense firearms and training?
@@SonsOfLorgar Some states have some pretty strict gun laws
Burden of proof. Sad but true.
Why on earth would OP even leave the cat with her, she knows the woman doesn't like her and doesn't like cats, that's a recipe for an issue. Call a pet sitter, ask a neighbor to check in, anything but the crazy woman who has been nothing but vile towards you.
@@wallcoconut9634 Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. Maybe she didn't grasp the depth of that woman's hatred.
I accidentally caused a friend to lose her BF. She had a couple drinks at a bar and didn't realize she was allergic to pineapples and similar fruits. Her BF drives her to my house where my GF (her best friend) is a nurse and could tell something was wrong. Well, since I'd been friends with her for so many years, she grabbed onto me for support and basically laid her head on my stomach. Her BF was not happy but I didn't care. There was nothing intimate going on between us, but for some reason she just wanted me for support because she was scared out of her mind. Let's just say her BF didn't last for very long. I later found out he wanted to beat the crap out of me for that incident (twice my size).
Sounds like you did your friend a huge favor.
Story 2, thats effectively premeditated murder the MIL admitted to
Technically, no. There’s nothing to indicate the MIL intended the child harm (if she had, she wouldn’t have woken up OP for help when the reaction began), so that throws out murder. And even if the child hadn’t been saved, it still would have only been manslaughter paired with the reckless endangerment charge. The fact that she planned the endangerment so carefully probably should have merited more than a slap on the wrist, though, I’ll heartily agree with that.
@@theoneguyoverthere wrong. Willful ignorance is not a legal defense.
Though in this case, the only definitive sollution is weighted in grains and wears a partial copper jacket.
No, she'd been told her granddaughter was allergic, but went ahead and forced the allergens on the child. By keeping it secret she made it clear she knew what she was doing was wrong. She intended to give a child food she'd been told could kill them -- that's premeditated.
@@theoneguyoverthere she was told those actions could greatly harm or kill the child but she chose to do them anyways. She willingly chose to do something that would hurt in the child.
@@theoneguyoverthereif it's not, it should be. She was informed of the allergy, but fed it to the kid anyway. That's knowingly poisoning someone.
OP1 needed to grow a damn backbone long before she did.
Seriously! How many times were you going to let yourself get disrespected by that witch!? And what the f was her “husband” doing during all this *_for years!?_*
And the cat paid the price.
@@piercelindenberg6842 I agree with you. Was her husband never standing up for his wife.
He was out at work. Notice how MIL never dared to come when she knew he was there. She's a coward.
My bet, the cat, didn't run away. But got dumped like the jewelry and baking pans.
I understand your point... but low self esteem is a big pain in the a** to correct... and longer it's an issue, harder it is to change the pattern of thinking.
Op in the first story needs a restraining order and to move cross country, to get away from MIL. In the second story your MIL just attempted man slaughter.
Everytime I hear the banana cookie story I think of the coconut story (I don’t remember if you’ve covered this before but it would be cool to hear it again!)
The coconut story is when another allergy MIL was babysitting these twin daughters for the OP and had to rush one of them to the hospital in the middle of the night because she took one of the twins (WITH A COCONUT ALLERGY) and covered her curly hair in coconut oil (to both girls. Only one is allergic and she knew this very very VERY well) and then was suprised when THE TWIN DIED IN THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE SHE WAS LEFT WITH IT IN FOR HOURS.
I thought it was both twins that were allergic to coconut but one just happened to survive probably because she was the last one who had it put on her hair. So the poor girl just barely survived.
First story actually has a lot of updates - the missing items, clothes and jewelry... the MIL was wearing and posting pictures on Facebook all along with her wearing them. But MIL has blocked OP and her husband from seeing them. Also, OP and husband are cutting of BIL and his husband as they have been blabbing about life updates to MIL, including and abortion OP had. MIL showed up at OPs work calling her a baby killer. MIL did get charged previously, for trashing the house, but just got a slap in the wrist, really.
It pisses me off how many of the evil psycho Karens in these stories get a slap on the wrist. There seems to be a strong correlation with them being a family member or woman.
After MIL "lost" my cat, that would have been the end of our relationship. Period. Poor animal probably didn't survive. What a monster.
The mother in law from story 2 should be nicknamed Cookie Monster-in law 🍪🍌🥜
Dang, why didn’t I think of that?
Asking the MIL to cat-sit was a stupid move. All OP had to do was get a water fountain and a dry food dispenser for her cat. The cat would be fine for the two days that OP was away. She knew MIL would take advantage of any circumstance to hurt her.
I am certain that MIL either killed the cat or drove the cat somewhere far away and released it out in the middle of nowhere (and thus killing it). Monster.
On the first story, that is one NUT JOB of a mil, I hope she has to pay 1000s of dollars and gets some months in jail.
Story 2 is the worst case scenario I imagined my mil pulling. (She's gotten close with a few different situations. )
So, there was a Thanksgiving fight where grandpa and grandma insulted me in front of my son and niece. We couldn't leave until mil brought us home because our car was broken down.
Hardest thing after that was telling my son through tears that the grandparents he loved said something really hurtful, what it meant, and why it made mommy cry when she got home. He was 4. We don't make an effort to see them any more than necessary, and nothing will be necessary enough they will be my ride ever again. Not even Christmas.
The parents were told right, though. The kid has to know that they weren't just mysteriously getting sick. Someone they loved did it to them, and that's why they can't spend time like before. It's not easy, especially when the pair has a close bond.
I am waiting for my in-laws next blow up about how I no longer make eye contact with them. Hard to explain to a narcissist how decades of trauma from people screaming insults at me would leave me vulnerable to being traumatized by peoplescreaming insults at me. And they were aware of my history. We had known each other for over a decade by the incident and had those conversations around campfires...but again, narcissists.
I hope I can call them that then. Hopefully the truth cuts enough that they change. But they are narcissists, so I don't expect much. Boomers, too. Wish me luck!
that poor cat.
There's no way that the cat just "disappeared" since cats become attached to places rather than to people (except for certain breeds). Presuming the story is true (which most stories on reddit are not), the cat was almost certainly taken to a vet and "put down" or was taken too far away for it to find its own way home. If it had just been "let out" whether by mistake or otherwise, it would have returned to the house when it was hungry.
If allergies didn't exist, then I wouldn't have to be taking a Zyrtec every day. I'm also deathly allergic to penicillin, and sulfa gives me Steven Johnson's. I also have a skin allergy to nylon, so I have to thoroughly check clothing labels. 😕 That MIL needs to be in prison for premeditated attempted murder. 👿
My mom nearly died from SJS back in the late ‘70s after taking a sulfa drug that was relatively new to the market. Turns out that in the 18 months it had been available, 11 other people had come down with SJS, but she was the first to survive. Her lawsuit was the reason SJS was added to the list of possible side effects. She still has issues with dry eyes and scars on her body from the amount of skin she lost. I tell new doctors that I might have inherited that allergy, since I’ve discovered while researching the topic that there is a one in three chance that I have.
@@kathyastrom1315I'm sorry but what is SJS cause I honestly never heard of it before so I genuinely don't know what it is
@@djrosette Steven Johnsons Syndrome, it's a disease that occurs as a reaction to medication. "Early symptoms of SJS include fever and flu-like symptoms. A few days later, the skin begins to blister and peel, forming painful raw areas. Mucous membranes, such as the mouth, are also typically involved. Complications include dehydration, sepsis, pneumonia and multiple organ failure."- wikipedia
@@djrosette It’s Stevens Johnson Syndrome. It can be (and most frequently is) an allergic reaction, usually to medication, but it can also arise from an unknown source. It is a dermatological condition shown in skin loss, hair loss, eyes can become badly affected to the point of permanent blindness (warning: graphic medical description ahead-when I mentioned the family history to my optometrist, he gave me a horrified look because he had seen only one case in his long career, a young boy in the hospital, and he said that poor kid’s eyes had liquified), up to and including death. The condition is rated on a scale of the amount of damage to the body-I forget what the most minor level is called, SJS is given to the moderate level, and TENS is given to the most severe level. My mother’s current doctor, when looking at her medical history and hearing what she had to say about her bout, thinks that she would be rated as TENS instead of SJS if she got sick today. She had skin loss over 50% of her body, lost just about all of her hair, and spent nearly a month in the burn ward of one of Chicago’s best hospitals since it is such a rare condition and was even rarer in the late ‘70s. There is no way to cure SJS/TENS, all you can do is give palliative care for the symptoms.
I gave a presentation on it for a library school class on health reference since I have that connection with it. I warned my classmates before I showed pictures of patients, but even so, their reactions were extremely distressed. So, the same word of warning to anyone who might want to research it themselves.
@@kathyastrom1315oh ok. Thnx for the info cause I had never heard of it before. Sorry for people who hafta deal with it and I'm glad I never had it
OP 1.... WHY would you be so STUPID enough to trust her with your cat's safety and well-being when she had "lost" or destroyed things of yours???!!! 🤬 That poor cat! 😿😭
It sucks to say but the mother-in-law killed that cat that cat was put down.... And I don't think it was done professionally because that would have left a paper trail so I honestly think that mother-in-law murdered their cat and I feel just sick to my stomach thinking about that poor animals last minutes of life
I had the best mother-in-law in the world!!! So blessed!!!
Me too!
Story 2- I would so be giving that company an earful before deciding if they'd like to continue it through lawyers in court. They were told not to give out details, failed to do that, them have the gall to pull the husband in for a meeting with HR like it's his fault? Oh, no you don't!
That father-in-law needs to divorce his wife because that's just psycho behavior to go into another person's house and do that shit. Also I help her brother-in-law does the same thing and puts her on the restraining order too.
Apparently the BIL was feeding MIL information. Which was how she knew when they were moving.
I'm glad that the husband in the first story wasn't a mommas boy like I see in many of these stories.
I’m not sure I agree with that. If he wasn’t a mommas boy he would have put a stop to all his mothers BS a long time ago.
@@khendralibbey617 I'd say he was in denial, since that is his mother, but once he realized what was going on, he shut that shit down.
Every time I hear or read a story about someone not believing allergies exist, my mind immediately defaults to the coconut oil story.
Story 1 and update 1, I'm not surprised that jnmil tried such tactics to harm op. Definitely not surprised that she tried to lie to her son and stutter excuses despite everyone knowing how much she hates op plus malicious. Typical that she started leaving passive aggressive messages to op because she blames op for her son now having a strained relationship with her despite everything she's done.
Last update, not surprised that she broke into the house to trash it. She couldn't stand that op blocked her and her son ignoring her so she tried to get "revenge", specially on op. She only proved how psycho she gets when she doesn't get her way, which is op gone. Fil is no better for just immediately bailing her out despite everything she's done, definitely cut him as well, since he just wants to enable her. Definitely not surprised that she now stays away from them after she got arrested. She probably now realizes that her son was serious about her getting her arrested and is now sulking that her son will stand up to her. But i wouldn't put it past her to try something again as she believes everything is op's fault.
My friend's son had serious allergies and she had problems with stupid people who didn't know the difference between a child not liking certain foods and being allergic to them. "Don't worry! I won't tell him there are nuts in that dessert!"
Last story: OP see if your husband's employer would be willing to file a restraining order against MIL as well as send MIL a cease and desist letter that states that MIL is to no longer contact the company or ANYONE who works for the company and that her son has now been transferred to a new office somewhere else in the country. But then OP and hubby stay in their current city and hope that MIL starts looking elsewhere.
Also, OP be careful of friend's social media posts as MIL might try to track you that way. You would be surprised at how easy it is to make a fake account and track someone down through just their friend's posts.
It is NOT YOUR PLACE to test whether or not someone else's conditions are "real" or not! EVER!
Story 1: Use your video footage to get a restraining order against MIL ASAP! Were you able to recover your baking equipment and jewelry?
Story 2: Here's hoping MIL does get some jail time for violating the RO. Hopefully, she can also be placed in an involuntary psych hold.
As a cat parent, the first story pissed me off so much 😤 poor kitty and poor cat parents
All Karens are allergic to Common Decency
When you have the baby in the hospital, you and your husband should have a code. That only you to know and don't tell her when you give birth or wear or with gender, it is.
OP 1: If they were renting, the landlord should also sue the MIL.
The MIL dressing as the bride at OP's wedding pretty well shows the MIL's motive in all this. She wanted to take OP's place in every sense with OP's husband. I imagine OP's clothes and jewelry made MIL wet thinking about being OP. And she threw away everything that was a part of OP otherwise to mentally remove her from the marriage.
Story 1 : MIL wants to keep her son to worship alone in the vault
Story 2 MIL wants to keep her grandkid to worship alone in the vault
I have two allergies, one to penicillin & the other to sulfa drugs!😊
OMG! You too?!? Let me guess: Penicillin=💀, and Sulfa=Steven Johnson's? Those are mine! 😁
@@WatermelonQueen541 The penicillin makes me swell up and gives me hives, the sulfa makes me sick and then I pass out.
My mother was allergic to Penecillin and honey. People kept telling her that honey was healthy and she wasn't allergic. She couldn't even have a bite of a graham crack without breaking out in hives. She was definitely allergic!!
@@lindabartholomew6435 definitely.
@@WatermelonQueen541what's Sulfa 🤔
The last story though, that is why our receptionist is told to never give up the direct extension of anyone. They can write e-mails, and if they are allready in contact with a specific person they would have gotten the extension.
I return from my pet sitting job for 2 minutes, and Fluff already has a new video ready and uploaded
1) Hopefully the OP got full financial restitution for the damages and theft done by the MIL.
2) Hard to believe that there are still people out there that don't believe allergies exist. Kind of sad that people are just so ignorant and incapable of learning.
This channel continuously reminds me how happy I am that I never got married. MIL’s are freakin’ crazy!
Ditto!
Psycho mom in law "lost control of her little boy" and he started making his own choices without her consent. That puts narcissism into hyperdrive. They're good to move. She's the kind of crazy to steal "her " grandchild.
Story one 6:32: if I was op I would definitely be like “b!t
Story 2: Whoever gave the information to the MIL about the husband's new job location should be fired
Story 2: in Iowa, that's Child Endangerment Causing Serious Injury, a C felony (max 10 years prison). The "slap on the wrist" would have been probation with a suspended prison sentence. The first time she violated the RO she would have gone to prison for a long time.
Unless they got a Republican judge with the same religious delusions as the MiL...
@@SonsOfLorgar Or worse, a Democrat judge, as they tend to be far, far more lenient on crime in general. Just look up the census statistics sometime...
OP 1 needs to get a concealed carry license and protect herself and her new home. Actually, both need to get CCWs.
OP2 too
First story, CALL THE COPS. Press CHARGES. Stop talking yourself back into being a victim.
The last story today just breaks my heart. I hope everyone in your family is OK and I’m sorry that you had to go through something like that. I hope and pray that your mother-in-law never darkens your door again.
OMG that MIL in allergies story needs locked up for life !!
I can't believe assault charges were not levied against MIL in story 2. That was horrific. Everyone lost, all because of one person.
I hate it when someone does something to hurt you but it's too small to bring it up
OPs husband should have stood up to his awful mother way sooner. What the fuck is wrong with that man?
Least hes not a spineless mamas boy like some of the others
I suspect he was likely in denial of his mother's behavior until she showed her true colors by mistreating OP.
If someone managed to "lose" my cat while house-sitting, they would not be leaving the house in one piece.
Story 2: What kind of grandmother knowingly poisons her own granddaughter?!!! WTF? That woman needs to be in jail.
Or under it.
My mother didn't believe me when I explained that I got lactose intolerant with age. So one day, she wanted to prove me wrong and made a desert with whole milk. I got so sick that day! What's worse? She still don't believe I'm intolerant to lactose. "It was something else".
Sometimes, mothers are never wrong.
Someone (not family) did not believe me either. They did believe me after THEY had to clean up the toilet. XD
Those aren't mothers, those are egg donors...
A restraining order is a definite for MIL in story 2 She is dangerously psychotic.
Story 1: So glad hubby has a spine and stood up to his abusive mother and defended his wife
OMG that couple with the allergy daughter needs to get new phone numbers. And get your security system installed. Also what's The story of the father-in-law maybe it has something to do with her behavior, that's my question?
And concealed carry permits...
2nd story. Op "My husband is having a hard time he feels like his mother just died"
Me to op's husband "Hate to break it to you man but your mother died years ago and that demon that is giving life to and controlling her body is not your mother"
Both of the mother-in-laws in these stories needs to be committed. I doubt either of them could maintain a sane facade long enough in front of a psychologist to avoid it.
With a nutcase like the MIL from story 1, might be a good idea to put multiple locks on every external door, at least 3, from 3 different brands, that way, she gets her hands on one key, she still ain't getting in, and putting a secondary barrier on any windows (or make sure the windows ain't glass), along with dual locking mechanisms, if possible
And personal CCP firearms...
Allergies: Many (narcissistic) people don't believe anything they themselves haven't experienced and are so sure they're right about everything that they cannot be dissuaded. In my old section at work, two out of 12 of us had diabetes, but our supervisor, who had a master's degree in biochemistry, had never had symptoms of hypoglycemia so did NOT believe it existed, and resisted allowing any accommodations for it. One day we had a doctor (a forensic pathologist, no less, visit our section for the day. When we all went out to lunch, my supervisor announced publicly, "Well, OP, we've got you now! Doctor, is it true that diabetics get hypoglycemia so bad they can't function normally?" The doctor just looked at him like something that just crawled out from under a rock and said, "Absolutely! Then they have seizures or pass out, THEN THEY DIE!!" The supervisor never stood in the way of our needs after that, but looked pissed each time until he was eventually removed to a position where he didn't work with, or supervise, anyone! When he retired, only myself and one employee of a different section (out of a 60-person division) attended his retirement party....
I can't believe she(the mom) would do that to her son.. not only did she trash his place also,but destroyed his&hers relationship.. Wow!!! I mean,now after listening to the second story, I'm so shocked!!!!
A friends mother-in-law was horrible to her for over 4 years, her son always made an excuse for his mother until we had an intervention and told him ALL of the things his mom did to our friend. But then 2 years after the intervention that really didn't change anything (plus she got along great with fil and 2 sil and 1 bil) she got pregnant, 9 months later our friend has come home from the hospital with her baby and her mil goes to reach for the baby and our friend said, "betcha wish you treated me a lot better now, because NO, you can't hold her. And fil, sil's and bil and their husband and wives laughting out-loud". The other il's got treated a bit better but not much. She only got to see the baby but never hold her, and she was never allowed to babysit. When she ask her son he told her she did it to herself and sided with our friend. We were shocked. It's 18 years later and their 3 kids know exactly what grandmother is about and don't want to see her much.
I feel so bad for these families with crazy MILs. My MIL was one of the kindest, funniest, most generous people I knew. (My own mother was abusive.) She always made me feel welcome. I loved my MIL and miss her as she has since passed. But she was very much loved. It's a shame that everyone can't have that experience. That last story, they might have a case for stalking if she's trying to find them after they have moved.
First story: I suspect that MIL didn't just accidentally "let the cat out". Cats usually come back home if they are okay. She took it somewhere, and I wouldn't even be surprised if she had killed it somehow.
Story 2 I'm glad your taking legal action against her she's a monster
First one: This young lady needed to walk away from this woman's son. He needs to grow a pair and let his mother know she has no say and will not be included in any family affairs.
In regards to the allergy post. My daughter has coeliac disease. When she was diagnosed she was 11/12. She went on visitations with her father (my ex,) and he refused to believe anything i said, even with supporting hospital/doctor information/documentation. He continued to give her gluten, she would go there for a weekend every 2 weeks and would continually come home sick. Courts took no notice of the fact she was allergic, and was constantly sick after visitations, telling me what goes on in his house and how he feeds our daughter, was his business. I suppose if a governmental institution, can disregard an allergy issue, anybody can.
Concerning story #1, I would've told MiL that the ex-girlfriend was dumped because she wanted "daddy" (aka FiL).
Concerning story #2, I can tell Mil ALL about allergies (I have *several* severe allergies that I grew up with, including dogs [not cats].) MiL could've been charged with attempted murder! She got off lightly!
She also could have been castle doctrine raptured...
What a shame that MIL was not seeing a psychologist.
The MIL in the last story need to be locked away in a strait jacket!
Anyone ever notice how narcissists hate cats? I think because they can't be controlled or made to like you. You have to be genuine with cats and let them come to you.
Story 1: her "end goal" was to have the final say in everything as a position of power (a mother) and try and control her son (by proxy OP)'s lives and doing it, in that creepy controlling behavior, like moving and rearranging furniture, or getting rid of things she either doesn't like or doesn't think are necessary, or put up "the forbidden sign"
Allergies can be very serious. I learned that the hard way when I woke up one night with a full body rash. Not sure what caused it to this day, just that I spent two weeks with the feeling of my skin being lit on fire almost every day before I could see a doctor who could prescribe me some allergy meds to get rid of the rashes. I still take them to this day.
Bottom line, allergies are real, scary and can strike without warning. MIL should've spent the rest of her life in jail for what she pulled.
(For the first story) as a Doberman owner, I definitely approve of op & her husband getting a Dobbie (however this is a dog that needs plenty of attention & socialization, not just training)
The horrific part of Story 2 is that the District Attorney, Police, & Court failed a little child by not filing charges of Premeditated Attempted Unalivement against Crazy Granny. Then they allow her to continue walking thru the Restraining Order & Not Charging her with Stalking!! Are they all waiting until she either unalives the child or someone else or kidnaps the child before taking this Lunatic's threat seriously?! OP & Hubby need to press for harsher charges & possibly even changing companies & even countries to protect their kiddos!!