Hi, I have a tip/request for testing the poop avoidance of these robots: It would be good to test the poop avoidance on carpets, especially the deep long-haired ones because, from my experience, animals tend to go on carpets rather than on hard floors.
been thinking about getting this.. what type of adapter does it have? Since this is a Chinese company does it have 220V? Will it be compatible with 110V?
@VacuumWars I bought this. And had to return it. My two cents and maybe yo Ivan add this to your tests. 1-carpets with black lines… it seems to consider them as barrier, and will not want to cross them… I tried putting them inside the carpet and it would clean around it. 2-The kitchen kick board is not detected. So it would stay almost a full robot away from the edge of the kitchen counter.
I had the thing for 48 hours. It refused to remember maps, could not deal with my angled wall, kept losing its base, freaking out, getting stuck, and frankly it was using an insane amount of water as it had to constantly return to the base in Vac & Mop mode to wash itself... even if it never used the mop. It also constantly made a god aweful grinding noise, presumably from a defective rubber part. Frankly, my experience can be summed up as: I had to baby sit the thing so much it was taking longer than just cleaning the house myself. I'd also like to point out, even on the edge cleaning mode, this thing left an entire unit's length between it and my wall. It refused to clean anywhere near edges. Now, WHEN it worked it worked crazy well. I manually vacuumed and mopped my floors the day before and the thing pulled an insane ammount of dirt, hair, and grime out (selling me on the fact I "need" a daily robo vac). That said spending multiple hours baby sitting and debugging the product just to get 1 full clean is not acceptable.
I returned it after 3 weeks. Kept forgetting where its base was after finishing a whole house clean. It's strange because it knew where the base was during cleaning and returned to wash mop and empty dirt bin every 15 minutes. But when it was done cleaning the whole house, it would go to area where base was not at and keep trying to find it there until it ran out of battery. I re-mapped the house and it did the same thing again. I was liking it until it started doing this. It also had a lot of carpet fuzz built up in the pre filter that i had to clean every couple runs. The filter is supposed to be cleaned with water but it didnt get clean from rinsing it. I had to replace the filter every week.
LOVE this, a true robot, that I don't need to babysit, it mostly takes care of itself. Also love the 'doghouse' style docking station for it. Looks like a must buy for anyone in the market
I am really surprised at the positive review. I had the Ecovacs Deebot T20 Omni (TEO Omni Costco version, which is identical) for about 3 months, and I had to return it to Costco. The app is absolutely horrific and disorganized, and no matter how I change the copious amounts of settings, it refuses to clean edges, and yet will repeatedly try to run over very large obstacles. We have 100% hard flooring with no transitions, and although it cleans the large wide open areas very well, it just fails in so many other areas. Now I have to decide if I should try a RoboRock without the Costco safety net. In the meantime we use Dyson Omni-Glide cordless as a first pass for dust, and a Tineco Floor ONE S3, and those together do a great job. And who doesn't need a little exercise?
I bought one of these 2 weeks ago and I have been extremely satisfied so far. It’s my first robot vacuum and I’m very glad I spent a bit more and went with the T20. I have a good mix between short pile carpet, hardwood floor and a thick carpet. My only slight con is sometimes the T20 doesn’t quite get as close to the skirting boards when mopping as I’d ideally like.
I’ve had the T20 for a month, along with a Roborock S8 to compare (no base station, but I wanted to see which was best with a view to importing an S8 Pro Ultra). I’ve sent the S8 back. The navigation was mostly incredible but it kept getting stuck between chair legs and needed rescuing. It also started saying it had a LiDAR error and would get lost. The S8 also had poor obstacle avoidance, chewing up dog toys. Also the S8’s dual roller is amazing at getting dog hair off carpet, by it kept rolling up small rugs under itself. After being rescued and put back in the same place, or as close as possible, the S8 often struggled to figure out where it was, then failed to dock and the maps would get messed up. The Ecovacs T20 isn’t quite as good at general navigation, especially around room edges, but it hasn’t got stuck once and avoids all obstacles. It’s been very reliable, it just does its job and docks without issue. The T20 carpet cleaning isn’t close to the incredible carpet performance of the S8, but it’s OK if you do a couple of passes on the max setting. However the biggest issue is the app - I also find it freezes and needs restarting. Also can’t name rooms, which is annoying and strange. A bug I have also noticed is that it’s deletes my rugs and carpets from the map if I clean a different room. Otherwise it’s usable and as the vac itself has been the most reliable (so far) of all the ones I have tried (including the Roomba J7+ which was a complete nightmare) So I’ll be keeping the T20. It far from perfect, with a sub-average app and so-so carpet and edge cleaning, but at least I can leave the house and be confident it will finish the job and not need the baby sitting and constant manual intervention the S8 did. I do agree the Roborock Q Revo will give it a serious run for its money, and much cheaper, as long as it doesn’t have the same problems I had with the S8. I probably would have got one if they were available where I am.
@@ap99149 The J7+ had amazing obstacle recognition and avoidance, and it was well built. But I had endless problems - sensor errors, bumper saying it was stuck when it wasn’t, made strange noises, the suction power and carpet clean started great but got worse and worse over time, despite regular maintenance of filter and brushes. The navigation was poor and it would miss patches for no reason, so I had to send it back for a spot clean. It was always the same patches it missed with no obstacles, just clear floor. There was obviously a bug with the navigation algorithm, and it really showed that lack of LiDAR was an issue. The LiDAR also meant it had to bang around to ‘feel’ it’s way around more, which marked the wall and resulted it a less accurate map. Another problem was it’s cloud based, using Amazon Web Services. A number of times AWS was down, or the software would not connect, and the vac could not be used. That to me seems insane, local control is important to me. Finally after a few months it just stopped in the middle of my kitchen and said it was stuck. It wasn’t, it must have been failed sensor and could not be recovered. That’s when I returned it.
I don't have an S8, however I do have an S7 maxV and that thing never really gets stuck and has pretty brilliant navigation, and amazing vacuuming! Without (and with too, to be honest) the Ultra dock it won't come close to the same mopping as these newer vacuum robots, but it's still been a godsend for me. Btw, the issue of not finding where the robot is after you move it yourself is too real, I've just learnt to place it near its dock and then make it go back out to avoid headaches
Thanks for the excellent and appreciated comparison. Hopefully Ecovacs have fixed the mapping issues where the room names would delete, and rooms would disappear.
After some early adopter pains, my T20 has been working quite well. It does well with obstacle avoidance, but it has a hard time with these small blur Nerf balls that we toss around for our cat. It’s ran over them a few times and they get stuck in the main brush. But the mopping and vacuuming performance has been outstanding. Oh, and I’ve had the same issues with the app. It’s buggy at best.
I'm returning this robot for the Roborock Q Revo. While it eventually cleans the whole house, its navigation is hesitant and inefficient. It constantly changes direction when encountering even minor obstacles, making it feel unsure of itself. Additionally, the app's layout is not well layed out as roborocks.
Seems like Dreametech L10s Ultra changed the game by providing premium features at a more affordable price. Glad that others are following suit. Now we just need someone to figgure how to get these robot vacuums to climb & clean stairs. Hopefully we see companies taking a stab at that in a couple year's.
I've said this on other videos but if they don't invest in developers for their app then this vacuum is useless. The hardware on these is incredible but the app makes them near unusable. I returned my X1 in favour of an S7 MaxV. Appreciate your review doesnt focus on living with the robots for weeks on end.
@@pandraus it takes ages to divide your house into the rooms. Then the app would spontaneously delete the map and you'd be back at square one. Also, it decided to not notify me when we were away that it ran out of clean water. Also, the combinations of mopping and no vac and vice versa weren't available at the time. The Roborock...absolutely, never have to go into the app
I would like to see a ranking or list of your favorite robot vacuums for carpet only. It is a big concern of mine and isnt done well by many. I have a Roomba S9+, which you said (a year and a half ago) was a great pock for carpet enthusiasts. It has been fantastic. However, now they are discontinuing parts after only releasing it a couple years ago. I would love for you to address that as well. Maintaining a robot vacuuming shouldn't be that difficult. Its interesting! Now, I have to try and source aftermarket parts. I would really love for you to address this in another video as well. I will likely buy whatever robot vacuum you recommend as the "carpet expert vacuum". Thanks in advance and great work! I love your channel!
LOVE your channel. I never buy anything vaccum without watchig here first! I have a two year old Roomba i7+. The battery is losing lots of life and frankly it requires a lot of hands on support. (it gets stuck or wont charge on a regular basis) Of course, It does not mop either. I am now debating on wheter to buy a new battery or just get a better unit! The reason it gets stuck is the probe that sticks out of the top hangs on things - mostly counters. This one looks like it simply will not clean under counter overhangs at all. When I look at the lower right corner @4:28 I see a whole bunch of floor untouched so it just stays away from counters so it wont get stuck (good!) but I will step in coffee gounds and crumbs close to the counters! (bad) That is a an interesting and tough trade off though. Never stuck but never really clean ariound the edges. Tough call! You should add and overhang/counter test to your regimine!
Right now considering returning it. Got 3 days. Cant mop a second floor! So bungalows only??! Best so far (laresar, iRobot) but whats the point in saving 3 maps if theres no water tank and tiny dust container... you need the basestation on each floor.
@@AncientTech4u I had a T8 TruDetect with auto empty station. The obstacle avoidance was crap, battery life was crap and it constantly got stuck on a small threshold that every other robot can get up and down easily (and it's not even high) The map kept getting deleted and the robot kept getting lost. The auto empty base got through bags quickly and the bin would never empty properly. Now I have a Roborock Q7+ Max and it's in a totally different league.
I bought the N8 and was surprised that it went under my king size bed and under my couches in the living room. I returned it as it did not have an empty station and found the mapping a bit erroneous. I purchased the T20 and it is amazing. Disappointingly it does not go under my bed for the couches as the N8 did. There is an area in my kitchen that it just will not clean. I returned it thinking it might be a problem with the unit. My second T20 is doing the same thing. I absolutely love all its functions. It vacuums and mops beautifully. Love all its features. It just does not like my kitchen. I am going to try and have it clean my kitchen at different times of the day to see if the shadows are causing the error. Support have advised that dark spots on wooden floors can be misleading and the Deebot thinking it is a hole it can fall into. But the rest of my living room is the same flooring, and it does a great job there. I'm willing this little robot to work as I love everything about it.
It does not have an integrated water tank. You mentioned the dock had the same option as the X1 which refills the on board water tank. The T20 does not have one which is also why it has to go back to have the pads washed so often.
I have the same question. Is it a problem that it doesn't have an internal water tank in the vacuum? Do the mopping pads dry out quickly? Does it need to return way to often to rewet the mopping pads? The review didn't cover this but I would have liked it to. 👍
I didn't realise it lacked an onboard water tank until you mentioned it. The Roborocks S7/S8 have a significant advantage in this area, so I wonder why this wasn't mentioned in the video.
@@adiands850 I don't know and I am kinda shocked. As a reviewer of robot vacuums myself we do miss things here and there, but this is a big thing to miss.
@markmuilwijk if you have a lot of carpet, beware. If you have mop and vacuum enabled it will keep wetting its mop during the vacuum cycle even if it hasn't started mopping. If you have mostly hard floors I don't think it's a negative but if you have carpets then a lot of water gets lost on the carpet due to it running back and forth
I bought the T8 Omni AIVI based on your partial review. The software flaws alone make it hands down the worst thing I have ever bought. No "AI learning" it constantly ran into the same things over and over. it stores maps of rooms in a way that fills up it's tiny memory over time. Ex: if you move a chair, it then thinks in must be on a new floor of your home, ceates a new map for that floor, does not delete the old map. The maps fill up at approximately AG after it burns through the alphabet the first time. Returned to evovacs twice, they said it works as intended.
I say partial review, because you said you were going to use it in your home and give an update, at which time you must have ran into this issue after a few weeks, unless you live like a robot and never move any chairs. ;) Insert captcha here. When it works, it works good, but after three days of use, the data processing of the dog brain just can't keep up with the data it has to sort through, and the added search time leads to glitches in other operations IE it seems lost sometimes. The misleading claims from evovacs are unforgivable IMO
Prices were the lowest since launch last week, because of new models. Now T10 is out of stock, so I went with T20 on amazon. I have a Omni 920 for now around 5 or 6 years, running twice a week. And the plastics are worn out : wheels, bumper, covers, lidar motor brushes are wear out. wheels pivot rod are broken, it's loud, water tank is leaking. But still working ! Hopefully, this is be a nice upgrade over the 920, had only few issue, like every 8 months or so I had to remap the house since he was creating new rooms and get lost. But not a major bummer.
Thank you for this channel!! I watch it religiously. I have an older ECOVACSHOME system 500 series. His name is dumbass, but I have a Dyson v12 absolute (because of this channel) and he’ll run after I vacuum, and still continues to pickup stuff. I kept looking at this one and waiting to see if you’d do a video on it.
I'm surprised to see T20 acing the various tests. The T20, along with its competitors all look very promising but I'm concerned about long-term reliability as my own T9 started performing poorer and poorer (obstacle avoidance, mapping) over time after 1.5 years of use. These robots are considerable investments and it's frustrating to see them deteriorate that soon. I can't help but think these are planned obsolescence. Hoping to get a sense from the community here if you guys had similar observations with your Ecovacs, Roborocks etc?
@@RichyNeal I did, religiously. Navigation improved after i performed a reset and remap, still observing the obstacle avoidance performance. Hopefully this resolves the ageing issues.
What happen vacuum wars? why you neglected the fact that T20 don't have onboard water-tank and the base scrubbing area cannot be remove make it difficult to clean... and why there is no roborock Q Revo review?
I have the same question. Is it a problem that it doesn't have an internal water tank in the vacuum? Do the mopping pads dry out quickly? Does it need to return way too often to rewet the mopping pads?
@@markmuilwijk Well basically your first area will be superwet and gradually the mopping will be less efficient until your robot rewet its mop.. How many times you need your robot go back to the base just to wet the mop?
@@anubizz3 Thanks, that makes sense about the gradually dryer pads. I have the Deebot X1 Omni, which has a setting for how often it should return to wash the pads. It can go up to 20 minutes without returning (for when floors are pretty clean). I'm worried that the T20 Omni will be returning too much, so much so that cleaning will take forever, and I'm wondering if anyone here has the T20 Omni and knows a ball-park average for how long the T20 can go with wet pads before it rewets them in the base station. I'm asking for a friend who wants one.
Just got mine earlier this week. Used it about 4 times. But I need to refill and dump the dirty water daily... I thought it was supposed to last 60-90 days? What gives?
RoboRock Q Revo will give this a run for the money. On sale $699($899) vs $999 ($1,099) on sale for the T20 Omni. . Head to head comparison is needed between these two. I just bought the Q Revo on sale and it will be arriving today so I am out of the market for a vacuum for at least the next 4 years.
Hey, I also purchased a Revo on sale and already received it a few days ago. Couple thoughts: 1. It extremely slow on standard setting. I haven't had a robo vacuum in about 10 years so I wasn't sure what to expect. They are still very slow. I can vacuum whole 500ft downstairs (living room, bathroom, and kitchen/dining) in about 10-15 minutes and do a better job. Revo took 40 minutes to vacuum less and it still missed debris. I timed both, vacuum and mopping on standard. Mopping was a bit faster, but because it has to go back to base and wash a mop every 15 minutes it still took 40 minutes. I haven't tested/timed vacuuming and mopping at the same time yet. 2. I was surprised at how quiet it was vacuuming on quiet setting. It was near silent it seemed, yet still picked up I would say 99% of stuff on our laminate floors. Obviously on carpet it will be pretty noisy because you need more power, but our whole downstairs is all flooring and it felt like it was near silent. I tried using more power and it would still fail to pick up all debris, so it seems like there's no point in using more power and making vacuum louder if you only have laminate flooring. 3. Horrible obstacle avoidance with a lot of false positives. This is probably the thing that's going to make me return the vacuum. I am extremely surprised T20 scored so high in obstacle avoidance since I believe both of these use same sensors after doing away with camera. Ok, so I knew obstacle avoidance was super weak on this vacuum from watching other reviews, no big deal, I made sure there was no clutter on the floor. But what I wasn't ready for is phantom obstacles. We have dark brown laminate flooring that's gotten quite shiny after about 5 years of people polishing it up with socks. And I don't know if it just reflects too much light and messes with vacuum's light sensor or what, but it often freaks out and claims there's an obstruction, marks it on the map and then starts going around this phantom obstacle. It nearly got itself trapped by claiming there's an obstruction somewhere close to corner and barely wiggled itself it out of there in wide open area. That's pretty frustrating concidering this is a nearly 1k vacuum. After every run so far I had to go into the map and dismiss about 5 "obstacle" areas and app warns me that once I do that, obstacle avoidance is disabled for that spot on the map. So basically, pretty soon I'm going to end up with 0 obstacle avoidance in my house. I should just go into the app setting and disable it altogether, save me the headache of dismissing obstacles in the map. Overall, cool vacuum. I'm not disappointed, just pretty underwhelmed. Still deciding if it's worth it or if I should return it.
@@MrTiaan All the sales are over right now. Amazon and Walmart had the Q Revo for $699 and T20 for $999. If you wait it will go on sale again. Maybe even cheaper since they both want market share.
@@Fpsnut It is on it's first run and I am happy. I am using it to lesson the amount of times I have to vacuum and wash the floors and not replace it altogether. If I run it every day I can get my work down to once a week. Got kids and Cats so pretty much have to vacuum and mop every day.
I got the T10+ for $549 on Prime Day from Best Buy competing. Seeing as the T9+ is just now clearancing for the same cost and all major retailers returning to $950 until they clearance them as well, $900+ including shipping if direct sale from China on T20, no tank for mopping and rather rinse and reuse, and finally the omission of the camera all make me happy I went with T10+. I like the camera to use as a UGV I can check on things like alarm sensors or simply making sure all is good while away and it parks camera inward (never once got an alarm notice of motion after re-enabling my motion in 3 years owning the T8 Omni when running the robot on sentry checking shit out for when away for those making such stupid jokes or actually concerned), it's actually a valued feature and I don't get the concern seeing as I'm not walking around naked in front of the robot vacuuming nor would care should China see my dong anyhow. Inboard tank + camera make my win, plus no slime trail dragging nuts with the wet clit spinners.
Thanks for the great review once more! I almost ordered the Roborock S8 max v ultra, but after this review I don't know anymore. And now also the Roborock q revo... need help deciding 😔
@@Brem2010you are probably better off with S8 Pro ultra if you want better obstacle avoidance and completely hands free experience. The tray that cleans the mopping pad on Q revo does not clean itself, so you have to take it out and clean it often. Also, S8 Pro ultra is better than Q Revo in terms of carpet cleaning performance.
I bought it today. 1) when the mop pad cleaner kicks in the whole house started shaking. The water pump system is loud af. 2) the bin clearing is also insanely loud. 3) for a 580 F^2 home, it took 78 minutes to vacuum and mop. It had to go back 6 times to refresh the mop. 4) even on quiet it felt a bit loud moving around the house. 5) for some reason, on the first pass through it didnt want to really get into the corners. 6) the room divider kept giving me errors and woulsnt let me divide obvious rooms. 7) the voice commad is stupid hard to pronounce. Hello yikow is a weird name. - i give it a C experience. Going to try out the Roborock Q Revo to see if it performs better.
Potentially best premium robovac? I'm curious how much price vs performance plays into a comparison with the S7 maxV ultra, is it just providing equivalent performance for much cheaper or is it actually beating the s7 in performance?
I see the Ecovacs 1099$USD on the website compared to 1599$USD for the Roborock S8 pro ultra. It's a HUGE difference! My guess is that Roborock will have no choice but to drop its price.
I have the last version of this vacuum and haven't found the navigation particularly good and would question if it even has a functional bump sensor on the front of it. Many are the times that it has slammed into things that should be obvious. For example, it slammed into the fireplace hearth - and no, it's not black - and every time I pushed pause and moved it away, it went right back to it and continued to slam into it. And it does this regularly. It pushes light furniture around the room, so it's obviously not detecting it. It's not likely a faulty unit because I've had 2 of them and they've both done it. The other day, I saw some debris on the bathroom floor while I was cleaning and it was still there after it was done. The Roborock doesn't have these issues and it can do the carpet without removing the pads. Yes, I know the new Ecovacs finally raises the pads. I appreciate not having to mop and vacuum as often as without it, but it's not been great.
@@guillaumegagnon7049 Thanks for the suggestion. I know it updates on occasion, but I have not told it to update in quite a while. I'll check for updates.
I’ve had my X1 Omni for just over a year and I’m about to have to send it back to Ecovacs because it no longer fills the robot with water, cleans the cleaning sink with fresh water and struggles to make it back into the station, most of the time it gets stuck and I have to do it manually. I spoke with the company I bought it through and they said it’s a big issue with the X1 Stations where the pump calcifies and seizes up… not very great confidence for longevity at just over a year old….. your thoughts?
The T20 is a dream especially as we have 2 dogs and constant hair to deal with. My only concern is that since changing the vacuum bag (and I bought the right one) it does not seem to be emptying properly.
I am just waiting for the day that robot vacs can steam the floors with the rotating heads instead of using soap. Mechanically, it's probably not as hard as it sounds like to do but it requires significantly more power output then then most Li-Ion batteries would probably push. I'm hoping cheaper and higher energy density batteries of the Sodium-Ion variety make it from BYDs electric vehicles to robovacs to allow higher power cleaning. I've found using steam to be more effective at removing stuck on messes, less costly (over time), and never leaves any sticky soap residue.
I am not a friend of the mopping feature. Such a big thing putting in home takes pretty much space. I put my shark UR2350AE into the corner of my home next to the shoe rack.
I'm returning this robot for the Roborock Q Revo. While it eventually cleans the whole house, its navigation is hesitant and inefficient. It constantly changes direction when encountering even minor obstacles, making it feel unsure of itself. Additionally, the app's layout is not well layed out as roborocks.
Does this have auto tank filling though? I was under the impression this robovac doesn't have an onboard water tank and has to return to base to wash and wet its mops for mopping.
Can we get a direct comparison between the S8 RoboRock Pro Ultra and the Evovacs Deebot T20 Omni? also add the prices for Europe and USA in there as well.
I thought wow this seems pretty awesome and then went to the link and it's over $2200 on Amazon Australia (Where I live)... Idk why the mark up is so insane in Aus for anything electronic lol. Still seems like a good vacuum regardless.
Questions that are not covered in many robot reviews. Can I remove the washing pads manually to wash if needed? Does it stop at top of stairs ? Is it easy to vac and wash two story house? What is their Customer Service like when needed for problems ?
Yes pu can remove them to wash. It does stop for stairs, it has sensors for it. Easy to vacuum two story house but for moppin you need to take the basestation to with you.
why I came to your channel was to see what is the best product for pet hair. so confused about all of these products, there are so many. we have a great Pyrenees and want something that will pick up large tufts of dog hair and dog dander. do you have any information about this?
Hello, thanks a lot for the review. Love your channel. Could you possibly clarify something for me? I read on Google that "Unfortunately, though, Ecovac has designed the Deebot T20 Omni in such a way that the robot doesn't have a built-in water tank". In your video it shows that it does. And I could not find anywhere else info regarding this. Could you clarify this please, cause this is a game changer. Thanks.
Man, im in the process of returning their new X2 Omni. I cant tell you how bad the navigation is, as is the cat hair pickup performance. After first upgrading from a Roborock S50 to a S8 (returned) to the X2, ill just replace the battery on the S50 and keep it. :(
Why did you say at 1:30 that the omni station refills the water tank.. t20 omni has no on board watertank... i trust your reviews. I didn't think i needed to double-check you...
I have this T20 Omni robot, and at this point I won't recommend it to anyone, because it's terribly buggy. Both the cleaning strategy leaves a lot of uncleaned areas with TrueDetect 3D active, which does more harm than good, and the operating app, which throws errors every now and then. If you have a pedestal a little deep under the cabinets in the kitchen, forget that the robot along will clean (even though there is room). It will detect the cabinets in front above and erroneously assume that this is already a wall, or there is no space. There's no telling what it's guided by. And leave the cabinet still unclosed for a while, the robot won't even pass under the door. It will go around them in an arc and, of course, will not clean under them. The above problems are caused by TrueDetect 3D, because instead of using this option to not pull up cables and such, it uses TrueDetect for other purposes, such as misjudging that it won't drive somewhere. Turning off TrueDetect 3D causes the robot to clean under cabinets, pass under doors and also drive into places it has trouble accessing. Just why buy a robot with an obstacle-avoidance option if it works badly? Oh, and disabling TrueDetect 3D makes the robot blind in front and very often hits objects with its bumper. Another problem with the T20 Omni robot is the procedure for returning to and leaving the station. The robot leaves the station each time with mops laid on the floor to mop a remote area. Likewise with the return to the station. If the robot returns with raised, dirty mops, it lays them down, and so dirtying its driveway, it drives back to the station. After vacuuming itself, it also lays them down and scrubs them dry as it drives into the station. Nonsense. As if they forgot to program the robot with different start and return procedures depending on the circumstances (program). The app is so clunky that it often doesn't display the current status of the robot and you have to exit the app every so often to see where the vacuum cleaner is and what it's doing. It looks like a WebView app, and when you open it, it loads like a page. On top of that, it is badly translated into Polish. Sometimes there is a blank screen with "undefined" instead of the message content. Buttons in windows to confirm saving a change signed as "Continue " and "Discard". - guess what the author had in mind. The cleaning schedule once every few days doesn't turn on. And to make things even worse, there is no option to manually control the robot (remote control). Of course, I reported these problems to support, but months pass and nothing has changed, no update that even improved going out and back to the station without laying down dirty mops. Most of the positive reviews, from what I observe, come from sponsorships or the free donation of equipment for testing in anticipation of a positive review. It is also worth mentioning that Ecovacs sent out an email to users in August 2023 that the robot has a manufacturing defect, and this applies to the T20 Omni series manufactured up to and including June 2023. The problem is that one mopping pad falls out periodically. Of course, mine caught and further there is a form asking for an address where they will send replacement parts. After 2 months they sent new mops and plastic pads and so far nothing has fallen out.
I have an Ikhos Create ls23 which has really good navigation and cross cross pattern of cleaning and an average mop which is just a damp cloth, but if run on cross cross pattern it does the job, I also have a roomba 776 random navigation and I always felt it was a great build and picked up much more than the supposedly more advanced. I now bought roomba j7 and bravado m6 and I feel they are better than the supposedly more advanced robots. During the time I also had an Eufy with mag strips which I sent back as the strips were ridiculous and a mamibot which again wasn’t well built
Great review. I’ve been waiting for your review since the initial “sponsored” reviews came out on launch. How does it do with pet hair? I currently have a T8 osmo and it initially struggled emptying the bin. But I think there’s been some firmware updates to improve this as I’m certainly noticing less issues. The ecovacs app isn’t the best for stability and I notice the same issues on the T8. I hear the roborocks app is better but in the UK we can’t get the S8 pro ultra so to import and pay a premium I think I can live with it. Do you know if there’s any issues with having two ecovacs vaccums from different regions in the app? My T8 was a Chinese import so I have the app setup as Chinese region. I assume I can add another vacuum to my account purchased in the UK (one upstairs one downstairs)
We have a permanently shedding Goldren retriever and cat. Mainly hard floor but rugs are challenge for vacs. The S8 (now returned) was amazing at pet hair on carpet. The T20 isn’t amazing, but does get it all after a double pass on max. Absolutely no issues emptying its bin at the base station, even when rammed with pet hair.
@@BadgerBob Have you had to clean take the hair off the brush? I have the T9+ and my retriever sheds like crazy and it all gets stuck on the brush head to the point after every run I have to manually go and take the hair off and empty the bin as it wont empty
What's better the T20 omni (1000$ on sale on amazon), the Q revo (1000 on sale on amazon) or the Dreame L10s ultra (1100 on sale on amazon)? Would really appreciate your help!
I think it's worth mentioning the biggest downside of the T Omni line compared to the X: the lack of an onboard water tank. I couldn't ever recommend buying this to anyone in a multi level house because in order to mop, you have to move the entire base station so the pads can get wet.
Is anyone else seeing the issue where it wont fully clean under furniture if obstacle avoidance is enabled. I thought it was just me but ive seen a few comments on Reddit now saying the same. Ive reach out to Ecovacs support but its been nearly a week now and no response
I use an ancient Scooba that has a big clean water and dirty water tank.. the dirty water it pulls up is black! I'm scared to move on from it when these new ones seem to just be moving around dirty water on the floor.. so weird.. This needs a clean water tank and it does it suck the dirty water off the floor or just swirl it around? Otherwise it would need to go back to the base every minute here.. I have white floors, they get dirty fast. The demo wood floors look clean but I feel like mine would have dirty swirl marks everywhere unless I had it go to the base nonstop which is a massive energy drain.😢
Too bad i bought one but it couldn't go over my thresholds in my new apartment, fired up my old trusty s5 max and it passed like a charm, so i went with the roborock s8 pro ultra instead, same there not a single problem with the thresholds..
I had this a few years ago when I upgraded from a eufy 30c to the ecovacs t8 aivi! I've had nothing but problems with it. Especially with the app and map and it never got sorted. So as good as this looks, I think I would go roborock over ecovacs
There is another thing: the mop does not distribute the water equally. It starts with a lot of water and then 3 minutes later, almost no water on the floor. For the price, it does not worth at all.
Hello Sir, I have a Ecovacs Deebot T20, and am trying to use it on multiple floors. Do I have to take the charging base to different floors to use it? It's quite heavy. If I only take the robot to a different floor without the charging station, after cleaning, the robot will keep trying to find the charging station. After a long time looking, it will stop and say it can't find the charging station.
Nice video !.! Quick question can you setup a job to only vacum and another one to only mop ? I like tonhave both work separated to avoid extra cleaning on the central brush and dust bin
No not yet ,,,,Ecovacs X2 Omni will be released in Oct ...I hope they update their software otherwise I won't get it ....I heard Roborock much better in term of software!
Does the T20 actually fully turn OFF the voice assistant? I had the X1 with their YIKO assistant and even with it off it would get triggered and yell "TO TURN ON YIKO VOICE ASSISTANT..."
Ecovacs Deebot T20 Omni on Amazon: geni.us/8oIPM
Are you going to review the new Kobold VR7?
Hi, I have a tip/request for testing the poop avoidance of these robots: It would be good to test the poop avoidance on carpets, especially the deep long-haired ones because, from my experience, animals tend to go on carpets rather than on hard floors.
Amazon link does not work.
been thinking about getting this.. what type of adapter does it have? Since this is a Chinese company does it have 220V? Will it be compatible with 110V?
@VacuumWars I bought this. And had to return it.
My two cents and maybe yo Ivan add this to your tests.
1-carpets with black lines… it seems to consider them as barrier, and will not want to cross them… I tried putting them inside the carpet and it would clean around it.
2-The kitchen kick board is not detected. So it would stay almost a full robot away from the edge of the kitchen counter.
I had the thing for 48 hours. It refused to remember maps, could not deal with my angled wall, kept losing its base, freaking out, getting stuck, and frankly it was using an insane amount of water as it had to constantly return to the base in Vac & Mop mode to wash itself... even if it never used the mop. It also constantly made a god aweful grinding noise, presumably from a defective rubber part. Frankly, my experience can be summed up as: I had to baby sit the thing so much it was taking longer than just cleaning the house myself.
I'd also like to point out, even on the edge cleaning mode, this thing left an entire unit's length between it and my wall. It refused to clean anywhere near edges. Now, WHEN it worked it worked crazy well. I manually vacuumed and mopped my floors the day before and the thing pulled an insane ammount of dirt, hair, and grime out (selling me on the fact I "need" a daily robo vac). That said spending multiple hours baby sitting and debugging the product just to get 1 full clean is not acceptable.
I returned it after 3 weeks. Kept forgetting where its base was after finishing a whole house clean. It's strange because it knew where the base was during cleaning and returned to wash mop and empty dirt bin every 15 minutes. But when it was done cleaning the whole house, it would go to area where base was not at and keep trying to find it there until it ran out of battery. I re-mapped the house and it did the same thing again. I was liking it until it started doing this. It also had a lot of carpet fuzz built up in the pre filter that i had to clean every couple runs. The filter is supposed to be cleaned with water but it didnt get clean from rinsing it. I had to replace the filter every week.
LOVE this, a true robot, that I don't need to babysit, it mostly takes care of itself. Also love the 'doghouse' style docking station for it. Looks like a must buy for anyone in the market
I am really surprised at the positive review. I had the Ecovacs Deebot T20 Omni (TEO Omni Costco version, which is identical) for about 3 months, and I had to return it to Costco. The app is absolutely horrific and disorganized, and no matter how I change the copious amounts of settings, it refuses to clean edges, and yet will repeatedly try to run over very large obstacles. We have 100% hard flooring with no transitions, and although it cleans the large wide open areas very well, it just fails in so many other areas. Now I have to decide if I should try a RoboRock without the Costco safety net. In the meantime we use Dyson Omni-Glide cordless as a first pass for dust, and a Tineco Floor ONE S3, and those together do a great job. And who doesn't need a little exercise?
I was hoping for the Q revo review! hope we will see it soon!
Our full Roborock Q Revo review comes out tomorrow at 4 PM EST! th-cam.com/video/iJGTtEzI0dc/w-d-xo.html
thanks been wanting this review for ages you never disappoint. I still watch these even though i am not in the market for a vacume
Glad you are here! Thank you!
I bought one of these 2 weeks ago and I have been extremely satisfied so far. It’s my first robot vacuum and I’m very glad I spent a bit more and went with the T20. I have a good mix between short pile carpet, hardwood floor and a thick carpet. My only slight con is sometimes the T20 doesn’t quite get as close to the skirting boards when mopping as I’d ideally like.
It's not meant to be a perfect mopping experience. If it was, the robots would look much different and they'd cost a lot more.
@@DyanosisRemember Scooba?
Every 7 days the machine does an edge pattern. You may be able to reduce the time between the edging.
You can set a deeper edge clean once a week and sort that issue
any update on how good it is after 6 months?
I like the white color on both the robot and the dock it looks futuristic
White is right -- 👴
@@zureai??????
Haven’t seen you in a while. I remember seeing you a lot Robot masters comment section.
Definitely going to be purchasing this unit after this review 👍
Hope you enjoy it!
A long waited one! Awesome review as always. Thank you!
I’ve had the T20 for a month, along with a Roborock S8 to compare (no base station, but I wanted to see which was best with a view to importing an S8 Pro Ultra). I’ve sent the S8 back. The navigation was mostly incredible but it kept getting stuck between chair legs and needed rescuing. It also started saying it had a LiDAR error and would get lost. The S8 also had poor obstacle avoidance, chewing up dog toys. Also the S8’s dual roller is amazing at getting dog hair off carpet, by it kept rolling up small rugs under itself. After being rescued and put back in the same place, or as close as possible, the S8 often struggled to figure out where it was, then failed to dock and the maps would get messed up. The Ecovacs T20 isn’t quite as good at general navigation, especially around room edges, but it hasn’t got stuck once and avoids all obstacles. It’s been very reliable, it just does its job and docks without issue. The T20 carpet cleaning isn’t close to the incredible carpet performance of the S8, but it’s OK if you do a couple of passes on the max setting. However the biggest issue is the app - I also find it freezes and needs restarting. Also can’t name rooms, which is annoying and strange. A bug I have also noticed is that it’s deletes my rugs and carpets from the map if I clean a different room. Otherwise it’s usable and as the vac itself has been the most reliable (so far) of all the ones I have tried (including the Roomba J7+ which was a complete nightmare) So I’ll be keeping the T20. It far from perfect, with a sub-average app and so-so carpet and edge cleaning, but at least I can leave the house and be confident it will finish the job and not need the baby sitting and constant manual intervention the S8 did. I do agree the Roborock Q Revo will give it a serious run for its money, and much cheaper, as long as it doesn’t have the same problems I had with the S8. I probably would have got one if they were available where I am.
Brilliant comment.
What made the Roomba such a nightmare?
@@ap99149 The J7+ had amazing obstacle recognition and avoidance, and it was well built. But I had endless problems - sensor errors, bumper saying it was stuck when it wasn’t, made strange noises, the suction power and carpet clean started great but got worse and worse over time, despite regular maintenance of filter and brushes. The navigation was poor and it would miss patches for no reason, so I had to send it back for a spot clean. It was always the same patches it missed with no obstacles, just clear floor. There was obviously a bug with the navigation algorithm, and it really showed that lack of LiDAR was an issue. The LiDAR also meant it had to bang around to ‘feel’ it’s way around more, which marked the wall and resulted it a less accurate map. Another problem was it’s cloud based, using Amazon Web Services. A number of times AWS was down, or the software would not connect, and the vac could not be used. That to me seems insane, local control is important to me. Finally after a few months it just stopped in the middle of my kitchen and said it was stuck. It wasn’t, it must have been failed sensor and could not be recovered. That’s when I returned it.
I don't have an S8, however I do have an S7 maxV and that thing never really gets stuck and has pretty brilliant navigation, and amazing vacuuming! Without (and with too, to be honest) the Ultra dock it won't come close to the same mopping as these newer vacuum robots, but it's still been a godsend for me. Btw, the issue of not finding where the robot is after you move it yourself is too real, I've just learnt to place it near its dock and then make it go back out to avoid headaches
Thanks for the excellent and appreciated comparison. Hopefully Ecovacs have fixed the mapping issues where the room names would delete, and rooms would disappear.
You’re a lifesaver I couldn’t work out how to do this for love nor money!
After some early adopter pains, my T20 has been working quite well.
It does well with obstacle avoidance, but it has a hard time with these small blur Nerf balls that we toss around for our cat. It’s ran over them a few times and they get stuck in the main brush. But the mopping and vacuuming performance has been outstanding.
Oh, and I’ve had the same issues with the app. It’s buggy at best.
I'm returning this robot for the Roborock Q Revo. While it eventually cleans the whole house, its navigation is hesitant and inefficient. It constantly changes direction when encountering even minor obstacles, making it feel unsure of itself. Additionally, the app's layout is not well layed out as roborocks.
Seems like Dreametech L10s Ultra changed the game by providing premium features at a more affordable price. Glad that others are following suit.
Now we just need someone to figgure how to get these robot vacuums to climb & clean stairs. Hopefully we see companies taking a stab at that in a couple year's.
I've said this on other videos but if they don't invest in developers for their app then this vacuum is useless. The hardware on these is incredible but the app makes them near unusable. I returned my X1 in favour of an S7 MaxV. Appreciate your review doesnt focus on living with the robots for weeks on end.
Once you set all the schedules for your robot, the app becomes much less important, no?
@@pandraus it takes ages to divide your house into the rooms. Then the app would spontaneously delete the map and you'd be back at square one. Also, it decided to not notify me when we were away that it ran out of clean water. Also, the combinations of mopping and no vac and vice versa weren't available at the time. The Roborock...absolutely, never have to go into the app
I would like to see a ranking or list of your favorite robot vacuums for carpet only. It is a big concern of mine and isnt done well by many. I have a Roomba S9+, which you said (a year and a half ago) was a great pock for carpet enthusiasts. It has been fantastic. However, now they are discontinuing parts after only releasing it a couple years ago. I would love for you to address that as well. Maintaining a robot vacuuming shouldn't be that difficult. Its interesting! Now, I have to try and source aftermarket parts. I would really love for you to address this in another video as well. I will likely buy whatever robot vacuum you recommend as the "carpet expert vacuum". Thanks in advance and great work! I love your channel!
Thank you! We will add this to our list of ideas!
LOVE your channel. I never buy anything vaccum without watchig here first!
I have a two year old Roomba i7+. The battery is losing lots of life and frankly it requires a lot of hands on support. (it gets stuck or wont charge on a regular basis) Of course, It does not mop either. I am now debating on wheter to buy a new battery or just get a better unit!
The reason it gets stuck is the probe that sticks out of the top hangs on things - mostly counters. This one looks like it simply will not clean under counter overhangs at all. When I look at the lower right corner @4:28 I see a whole bunch of floor untouched so it just stays away from counters so it wont get stuck (good!) but I will step in coffee gounds and crumbs close to the counters! (bad)
That is a an interesting and tough trade off though. Never stuck but never really clean ariound the edges. Tough call!
You should add and overhang/counter test to your regimine!
Right now considering returning it. Got 3 days. Cant mop a second floor! So bungalows only??! Best so far (laresar, iRobot) but whats the point in saving 3 maps if theres no water tank and tiny dust container... you need the basestation on each floor.
You need to review it’s direct competitor which is the Roborock Q Revo.
I wouldn't touch Deebot again. Total junk.
@@sbomorse own an older Deebot, it’s very reliable. Too bad their quality is way worse now.
@@AncientTech4u I had a T8 TruDetect with auto empty station. The obstacle avoidance was crap, battery life was crap and it constantly got stuck on a small threshold that every other robot can get up and down easily (and it's not even high) The map kept getting deleted and the robot kept getting lost.
The auto empty base got through bags quickly and the bin would never empty properly.
Now I have a Roborock Q7+ Max and it's in a totally different league.
@@sbomorse by older i mean very old, older than 2015
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I bought the N8 and was surprised that it went under my king size bed and under my couches in the living room. I returned it as it did not have an empty station and found the mapping a bit erroneous.
I purchased the T20 and it is amazing. Disappointingly it does not go under my bed for the couches as the N8 did.
There is an area in my kitchen that it just will not clean. I returned it thinking it might be a problem with the unit.
My second T20 is doing the same thing. I absolutely love all its functions. It vacuums and mops beautifully. Love all its features. It just does not like my kitchen. I am going to try and have it clean my kitchen at different times of the day to see if the shadows are causing the error.
Support have advised that dark spots on wooden floors can be misleading and the Deebot thinking it is a hole it can fall into. But the rest of my living room is the same flooring, and it does a great job there. I'm willing this little robot to work as I love everything about it.
This is an excellent, excellent review. Thank you for your detailed evaluation.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
It does not have an integrated water tank. You mentioned the dock had the same option as the X1 which refills the on board water tank. The T20 does not have one which is also why it has to go back to have the pads washed so often.
I have the same question. Is it a problem that it doesn't have an internal water tank in the vacuum? Do the mopping pads dry out quickly? Does it need to return way to often to rewet the mopping pads? The review didn't cover this but I would have liked it to. 👍
I didn't realise it lacked an onboard water tank until you mentioned it. The Roborocks S7/S8 have a significant advantage in this area, so I wonder why this wasn't mentioned in the video.
@@adiands850 I don't know and I am kinda shocked. As a reviewer of robot vacuums myself we do miss things here and there, but this is a big thing to miss.
@markmuilwijk if you have a lot of carpet, beware. If you have mop and vacuum enabled it will keep wetting its mop during the vacuum cycle even if it hasn't started mopping. If you have mostly hard floors I don't think it's a negative but if you have carpets then a lot of water gets lost on the carpet due to it running back and forth
@@RichyNeal Are you saying the automatic mop lifter is not effective on this model?
I bought the T8 Omni AIVI based on your partial review. The software flaws alone make it hands down the worst thing I have ever bought. No "AI learning" it constantly ran into the same things over and over. it stores maps of rooms in a way that fills up it's tiny memory over time. Ex: if you move a chair, it then thinks in must be on a new floor of your home, ceates a new map for that floor, does not delete the old map. The maps fill up at approximately AG after it burns through the alphabet the first time. Returned to evovacs twice, they said it works as intended.
I say partial review, because you said you were going to use it in your home and give an update, at which time you must have ran into this issue after a few weeks, unless you live like a robot and never move any chairs. ;) Insert captcha here. When it works, it works good, but after three days of use, the data processing of the dog brain just can't keep up with the data it has to sort through, and the added search time leads to glitches in other operations IE it seems lost sometimes. The misleading claims from evovacs are unforgivable IMO
@@davidchristensen3085ECOVACS releases a robot vacuum every time it breathes, don’t expect them to support them for long.
The heated water can also help with sanitizing the mop pads!
I can't believe yours scored so high for obstacle avoidance... our T20 unit can't avoid a power cord to save its life lol
Prices were the lowest since launch last week, because of new models. Now T10 is out of stock, so I went with T20 on amazon.
I have a Omni 920 for now around 5 or 6 years, running twice a week. And the plastics are worn out : wheels, bumper, covers, lidar motor brushes are wear out. wheels pivot rod are broken, it's loud, water tank is leaking. But still working !
Hopefully, this is be a nice upgrade over the 920, had only few issue, like every 8 months or so I had to remap the house since he was creating new rooms and get lost. But not a major bummer.
We hope you enjoy that T20!
Thank you for this channel!! I watch it religiously.
I have an older ECOVACSHOME system 500 series. His name is dumbass, but I have a Dyson v12 absolute (because of this channel) and he’ll run after I vacuum, and still continues to pickup stuff. I kept looking at this one and waiting to see if you’d do a video on it.
Thank you!
@vacuumWars I'd love to see comparison of eufy x9 pro and roborock q revo with this ecovac
Our full Roborock Q Revo review comes out tomorrow at 4 PM EST! th-cam.com/video/iJGTtEzI0dc/w-d-xo.html
Deebot is one of the only robot vacuums that can work on dark floor types.
I'm surprised to see T20 acing the various tests. The T20, along with its competitors all look very promising but I'm concerned about long-term reliability as my own T9 started performing poorer and poorer (obstacle avoidance, mapping) over time after 1.5 years of use. These robots are considerable investments and it's frustrating to see them deteriorate that soon. I can't help but think these are planned obsolescence.
Hoping to get a sense from the community here if you guys had similar observations with your Ecovacs, Roborocks etc?
May sound silly but do you clean the lidar? Mine was dusty, barely visible but the mapping was going crazy.
@@RichyNeal I did, religiously. Navigation improved after i performed a reset and remap, still observing the obstacle avoidance performance. Hopefully this resolves the ageing issues.
I actually have a backpack vacuum recommendation, it’s the Atrix Ergo backpack vacuum
Was waiting for this.
What happen vacuum wars? why you neglected the fact that T20 don't have onboard water-tank and the base scrubbing area cannot be remove make it difficult to clean... and why there is no roborock Q Revo review?
I keep seeing reviewers miss that there is no on board water tank. It is a big deal for people with multi floors.
It goes back to clean the mops, so they are wet and there is no need for one. But cleaning the base plate is a pain.
I have the same question. Is it a problem that it doesn't have an internal water tank in the vacuum? Do the mopping pads dry out quickly? Does it need to return way too often to rewet the mopping pads?
@@markmuilwijk Well basically your first area will be superwet and gradually the mopping will be less efficient until your robot rewet its mop.. How many times you need your robot go back to the base just to wet the mop?
@@anubizz3 Thanks, that makes sense about the gradually dryer pads. I have the Deebot X1 Omni, which has a setting for how often it should return to wash the pads. It can go up to 20 minutes without returning (for when floors are pretty clean). I'm worried that the T20 Omni will be returning too much, so much so that cleaning will take forever, and I'm wondering if anyone here has the T20 Omni and knows a ball-park average for how long the T20 can go with wet pads before it rewets them in the base station. I'm asking for a friend who wants one.
Just got mine earlier this week. Used it about 4 times. But I need to refill and dump the dirty water daily... I thought it was supposed to last 60-90 days? What gives?
Another amazing video ❤
Thank you so much 😀
RoboRock Q Revo will give this a run for the money. On sale $699($899) vs $999 ($1,099) on sale for the T20 Omni. . Head to head comparison is needed between these two. I just bought the Q Revo on sale and it will be arriving today so I am out of the market for a vacuum for at least the next 4 years.
We've been checking that one out but aren't quite done. Hope you enjoy it!
Hey, I also purchased a Revo on sale and already received it a few days ago. Couple thoughts:
1. It extremely slow on standard setting. I haven't had a robo vacuum in about 10 years so I wasn't sure what to expect. They are still very slow. I can vacuum whole 500ft downstairs (living room, bathroom, and kitchen/dining) in about 10-15 minutes and do a better job. Revo took 40 minutes to vacuum less and it still missed debris. I timed both, vacuum and mopping on standard. Mopping was a bit faster, but because it has to go back to base and wash a mop every 15 minutes it still took 40 minutes. I haven't tested/timed vacuuming and mopping at the same time yet.
2. I was surprised at how quiet it was vacuuming on quiet setting. It was near silent it seemed, yet still picked up I would say 99% of stuff on our laminate floors. Obviously on carpet it will be pretty noisy because you need more power, but our whole downstairs is all flooring and it felt like it was near silent. I tried using more power and it would still fail to pick up all debris, so it seems like there's no point in using more power and making vacuum louder if you only have laminate flooring.
3. Horrible obstacle avoidance with a lot of false positives. This is probably the thing that's going to make me return the vacuum. I am extremely surprised T20 scored so high in obstacle avoidance since I believe both of these use same sensors after doing away with camera. Ok, so I knew obstacle avoidance was super weak on this vacuum from watching other reviews, no big deal, I made sure there was no clutter on the floor. But what I wasn't ready for is phantom obstacles. We have dark brown laminate flooring that's gotten quite shiny after about 5 years of people polishing it up with socks. And I don't know if it just reflects too much light and messes with vacuum's light sensor or what, but it often freaks out and claims there's an obstruction, marks it on the map and then starts going around this phantom obstacle. It nearly got itself trapped by claiming there's an obstruction somewhere close to corner and barely wiggled itself it out of there in wide open area. That's pretty frustrating concidering this is a nearly 1k vacuum. After every run so far I had to go into the map and dismiss about 5 "obstacle" areas and app warns me that once I do that, obstacle avoidance is disabled for that spot on the map. So basically, pretty soon I'm going to end up with 0 obstacle avoidance in my house. I should just go into the app setting and disable it altogether, save me the headache of dismissing obstacles in the map.
Overall, cool vacuum. I'm not disappointed, just pretty underwhelmed. Still deciding if it's worth it or if I should return it.
Where you buy it link please
@@MrTiaan All the sales are over right now. Amazon and Walmart had the Q Revo for $699 and T20 for $999. If you wait it will go on sale again. Maybe even cheaper since they both want market share.
@@Fpsnut It is on it's first run and I am happy. I am using it to lesson the amount of times I have to vacuum and wash the floors and not replace it altogether. If I run it every day I can get my work down to once a week. Got kids and Cats so pretty much have to vacuum and mop every day.
I got the T10+ for $549 on Prime Day from Best Buy competing. Seeing as the T9+ is just now clearancing for the same cost and all major retailers returning to $950 until they clearance them as well, $900+ including shipping if direct sale from China on T20, no tank for mopping and rather rinse and reuse, and finally the omission of the camera all make me happy I went with T10+.
I like the camera to use as a UGV I can check on things like alarm sensors or simply making sure all is good while away and it parks camera inward (never once got an alarm notice of motion after re-enabling my motion in 3 years owning the T8 Omni when running the robot on sentry checking shit out for when away for those making such stupid jokes or actually concerned), it's actually a valued feature and I don't get the concern seeing as I'm not walking around naked in front of the robot vacuuming nor would care should China see my dong anyhow. Inboard tank + camera make my win, plus no slime trail dragging nuts with the wet clit spinners.
IIRC, Uwant U200 (released early 2023), was the first robot vacuum with hot water mopping and hot water mop pad washing.
Please do a dedicated Q Revo video
We are looking at one now. Thanks for asking.
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Thanks for the great review once more! I almost ordered the Roborock S8 max v ultra, but after this review I don't know anymore. And now also the Roborock q revo... need help deciding 😔
😂same bro
I was in your exact shoes 5 hours ago. After a lot of research I ripped the bandaid and went with this one! Roborock was also my other choice
Wait for q Revo.. It almost have it all..
@@anubizz3 I need the confirmation from this channel, I don't believe anyone else 😅
@@Brem2010you are probably better off with S8 Pro ultra if you want better obstacle avoidance and completely hands free experience. The tray that cleans the mopping pad on Q revo does not clean itself, so you have to take it out and clean it often. Also, S8 Pro ultra is better than Q Revo in terms of carpet cleaning performance.
what about Deebot T20 omni vs Roborock S8 pro ultra?
I bought it today. 1) when the mop pad cleaner kicks in the whole house started shaking. The water pump system is loud af. 2) the bin clearing is also insanely loud. 3) for a 580 F^2 home, it took 78 minutes to vacuum and mop. It had to go back 6 times to refresh the mop. 4) even on quiet it felt a bit loud moving around the house. 5) for some reason, on the first pass through it didnt want to really get into the corners. 6) the room divider kept giving me errors and woulsnt let me divide obvious rooms. 7) the voice commad is stupid hard to pronounce. Hello yikow is a weird name. - i give it a C experience. Going to try out the Roborock Q Revo to see if it performs better.
Potentially best premium robovac? I'm curious how much price vs performance plays into a comparison with the S7 maxV ultra, is it just providing equivalent performance for much cheaper or is it actually beating the s7 in performance?
I’m curious as well
I see the Ecovacs 1099$USD on the website compared to 1599$USD for the Roborock S8 pro ultra. It's a HUGE difference! My guess is that Roborock will have no choice but to drop its price.
@@guillaumegagnon7049the S7 max v ultra is only $1200 now after the S8 pro came out
Can you make a comparison with the L10s ultra after the last update? I think it will be quite interesting to watch this battle! Good review 😊
I have the last version of this vacuum and haven't found the navigation particularly good and would question if it even has a functional bump sensor on the front of it. Many are the times that it has slammed into things that should be obvious. For example, it slammed into the fireplace hearth - and no, it's not black - and every time I pushed pause and moved it away, it went right back to it and continued to slam into it. And it does this regularly. It pushes light furniture around the room, so it's obviously not detecting it. It's not likely a faulty unit because I've had 2 of them and they've both done it. The other day, I saw some debris on the bathroom floor while I was cleaning and it was still there after it was done. The Roborock doesn't have these issues and it can do the carpet without removing the pads. Yes, I know the new Ecovacs finally raises the pads. I appreciate not having to mop and vacuum as often as without it, but it's not been great.
are you on the lastest update? I saw people saying the same thing and after an update, things seemed better.
@@guillaumegagnon7049 Thanks for the suggestion. I know it updates on occasion, but I have not told it to update in quite a while. I'll check for updates.
Only Dreame L10 ultra is available in India. This Ecovacs T20 is also available. Which is better?
It is so awesome
Did you test it vacuuming human or pet hair? I'm wondering if it can avoid hair tangling
Hey this robot is the best. I had an n8 pro plus and the nav on this one is way better. It's very worth it.
Would be amazing to see a full comparison between the new Samsung BESPOKE JET AI vs Dyson GEN5 detect. Looking forward to that video
I’ve had my X1 Omni for just over a year and I’m about to have to send it back to Ecovacs because it no longer fills the robot with water, cleans the cleaning sink with fresh water and struggles to make it back into the station, most of the time it gets stuck and I have to do it manually.
I spoke with the company I bought it through and they said it’s a big issue with the X1 Stations where the pump calcifies and seizes up… not very great confidence for longevity at just over a year old….. your thoughts?
The T20 is a dream especially as we have 2 dogs and constant hair to deal with. My only concern is that since changing the vacuum bag (and I bought the right one) it does not seem to be emptying properly.
Does its main brush get tangled? I have this issue with my vacuum cleaner and I am trying to figure out if the newer versions resolved this
Any videos on the T30s coming? Kinda wondering if I should buy it or the Eufy X10 pro
We have ordered ours but its still on its way.
I am just waiting for the day that robot vacs can steam the floors with the rotating heads instead of using soap. Mechanically, it's probably not as hard as it sounds like to do but it requires significantly more power output then then most Li-Ion batteries would probably push. I'm hoping cheaper and higher energy density batteries of the Sodium-Ion variety make it from BYDs electric vehicles to robovacs to allow higher power cleaning. I've found using steam to be more effective at removing stuck on messes, less costly (over time), and never leaves any sticky soap residue.
Please do a review of the Bissell Crosswave Hydrosteam. I love your videos!!
He just did it
@@JahBlessd thank you!!
The plus or pro version can be plumbed into the water system. But I think that's only out here in China.
I am not a friend of the mopping feature.
Such a big thing putting in home takes pretty much space.
I put my shark UR2350AE into the corner of my home next to the shoe rack.
Between the L20s and T20 omni. Which one would you recommend ??
nice one
Thank you!
How does this compare to Roborock Q Revo?
What do you think it will do if it faces a something like cat vomit like a hair ball ? Or other types of pet soiling ?
I'm returning this robot for the Roborock Q Revo. While it eventually cleans the whole house, its navigation is hesitant and inefficient. It constantly changes direction when encountering even minor obstacles, making it feel unsure of itself. Additionally, the app's layout is not well layed out as roborocks.
Does this have auto tank filling though? I was under the impression this robovac doesn't have an onboard water tank and has to return to base to wash and wet its mops for mopping.
But what about Q Revo
Our full Roborock Q Revo review comes out tomorrow at 4 PM EST! th-cam.com/video/iJGTtEzI0dc/w-d-xo.html
How about the new Kobold VR7? Haven't seen anything about it here?
Can we get a direct comparison between the S8 RoboRock Pro Ultra and the Evovacs Deebot T20 Omni? also add the prices for Europe and USA in there as well.
Please do a comparison of this versus the roborock s8 pro
I thought wow this seems pretty awesome and then went to the link and it's over $2200 on Amazon Australia (Where I live)... Idk why the mark up is so insane in Aus for anything electronic lol. Still seems like a good vacuum regardless.
it's 1099$USD and here in canada where I live it's 1599$CAD. Not bad!
Questions that are not covered in many robot reviews. Can I remove the washing pads manually to wash if needed? Does it stop at top of stairs ?
Is it easy to vac and wash two story house? What is their Customer Service like when needed for problems ?
Yes pu can remove them to wash. It does stop for stairs, it has sensors for it. Easy to vacuum two story house but for moppin you need to take the basestation to with you.
why I came to your channel was to see what is the best product for pet hair. so confused about all of these products, there are so many. we have a great Pyrenees and want something that will pick up large tufts of dog hair and dog dander. do you have any information about this?
Hello, thanks a lot for the review. Love your channel. Could you possibly clarify something for me? I read on Google that "Unfortunately, though, Ecovac has designed the Deebot T20 Omni in such a way that the robot doesn't have a built-in water tank". In your video it shows that it does. And I could not find anywhere else info regarding this. Could you clarify this please, cause this is a game changer. Thanks.
Man, im in the process of returning their new X2 Omni. I cant tell you how bad the navigation is, as is the cat hair pickup performance. After first upgrading from a Roborock S50 to a S8 (returned) to the X2, ill just replace the battery on the S50 and keep it. :(
Why did you say at 1:30 that the omni station refills the water tank.. t20 omni has no on board watertank... i trust your reviews. I didn't think i needed to double-check you...
I have this T20 Omni robot, and at this point I won't recommend it to anyone, because it's terribly buggy. Both the cleaning strategy leaves a lot of uncleaned areas with TrueDetect 3D active, which does more harm than good, and the operating app, which throws errors every now and then.
If you have a pedestal a little deep under the cabinets in the kitchen, forget that the robot along will clean (even though there is room). It will detect the cabinets in front above and erroneously assume that this is already a wall, or there is no space. There's no telling what it's guided by. And leave the cabinet still unclosed for a while, the robot won't even pass under the door. It will go around them in an arc and, of course, will not clean under them.
The above problems are caused by TrueDetect 3D, because instead of using this option to not pull up cables and such, it uses TrueDetect for other purposes, such as misjudging that it won't drive somewhere. Turning off TrueDetect 3D causes the robot to clean under cabinets, pass under doors and also drive into places it has trouble accessing. Just why buy a robot with an obstacle-avoidance option if it works badly? Oh, and disabling TrueDetect 3D makes the robot blind in front and very often hits objects with its bumper.
Another problem with the T20 Omni robot is the procedure for returning to and leaving the station. The robot leaves the station each time with mops laid on the floor to mop a remote area.
Likewise with the return to the station. If the robot returns with raised, dirty mops, it lays them down, and so dirtying its driveway, it drives back to the station. After vacuuming itself, it also lays them down and scrubs them dry as it drives into the station. Nonsense. As if they forgot to program the robot with different start and return procedures depending on the circumstances (program).
The app is so clunky that it often doesn't display the current status of the robot and you have to exit the app every so often to see where the vacuum cleaner is and what it's doing. It looks like a WebView app, and when you open it, it loads like a page. On top of that, it is badly translated into Polish. Sometimes there is a blank screen with "undefined" instead of the message content. Buttons in windows to confirm saving a change signed as "Continue " and "Discard". - guess what the author had in mind. The cleaning schedule once every few days doesn't turn on. And to make things even worse, there is no option to manually control the robot (remote control).
Of course, I reported these problems to support, but months pass and nothing has changed, no update that even improved going out and back to the station without laying down dirty mops.
Most of the positive reviews, from what I observe, come from sponsorships or the free donation of equipment for testing in anticipation of a positive review.
It is also worth mentioning that Ecovacs sent out an email to users in August 2023 that the robot has a manufacturing defect, and this applies to the T20 Omni series manufactured up to and including June 2023. The problem is that one mopping pad falls out periodically. Of course, mine caught and further there is a form asking for an address where they will send replacement parts. After 2 months they sent new mops and plastic pads and so far nothing has fallen out.
I have to T20, this description is accurate.
One feature this doesn't have is an onboard water tank. Is this a big deal on this robot?
There is no plastic middle piece between the water bins to hold the brush... what the heck....
But wait the t20 doesn't have a in-tank for water, at least the one for the link shared in the comments doesn't have it
I have an Ikhos Create ls23 which has really good navigation and cross cross pattern of cleaning and an average mop which is just a damp cloth, but if run on cross cross pattern it does the job, I also have a roomba 776 random navigation and I always felt it was a great build and picked up much more than the supposedly more advanced. I now bought roomba j7 and bravado m6 and I feel they are better than the supposedly more advanced robots. During the time I also had an Eufy with mag strips which I sent back as the strips were ridiculous and a mamibot which again wasn’t well built
Switch up the reviews from vac mops, airpurifiers and robot vacuums to actual vacuums like upright in canisters
Will you try the newer T30?
It's not available in the US yet, so we haven't checked it out yet.
Vs the J9 plus combo?
Great review. I’ve been waiting for your review since the initial “sponsored” reviews came out on launch. How does it do with pet hair? I currently have a T8 osmo and it initially struggled emptying the bin. But I think there’s been some firmware updates to improve this as I’m certainly noticing less issues. The ecovacs app isn’t the best for stability and I notice the same issues on the T8. I hear the roborocks app is better but in the UK we can’t get the S8 pro ultra so to import and pay a premium I think I can live with it.
Do you know if there’s any issues with having two ecovacs vaccums from different regions in the app? My T8 was a Chinese import so I have the app setup as Chinese region. I assume I can add another vacuum to my account purchased in the UK (one upstairs one downstairs)
We have a permanently shedding Goldren retriever and cat. Mainly hard floor but rugs are challenge for vacs. The S8 (now returned) was amazing at pet hair on carpet. The T20 isn’t amazing, but does get it all after a double pass on max. Absolutely no issues emptying its bin at the base station, even when rammed with pet hair.
@@BadgerBob Have you had to clean take the hair off the brush? I have the T9+ and my retriever sheds like crazy and it all gets stuck on the brush head to the point after every run I have to manually go and take the hair off and empty the bin as it wont empty
@@jezzacarlton No, to be fair it’s not an issue. The only place hair builds up in a little on the sides where the brush clicks in.
What's better the T20 omni (1000$ on sale on amazon), the Q revo (1000 on sale on amazon) or the Dreame L10s ultra (1100 on sale on amazon)? Would really appreciate your help!
We go over our top favorites in our Best Robot Vacuum competition video right here: th-cam.com/video/ccFspGr1SIQ/w-d-xo.html
when are we going to get a robot vac with steaming function 👀
I think it's worth mentioning the biggest downside of the T Omni line compared to the X: the lack of an onboard water tank. I couldn't ever recommend buying this to anyone in a multi level house because in order to mop, you have to move the entire base station so the pads can get wet.
Is anyone else seeing the issue where it wont fully clean under furniture if obstacle avoidance is enabled. I thought it was just me but ive seen a few comments on Reddit now saying the same. Ive reach out to Ecovacs support but its been nearly a week now and no response
I use an ancient Scooba that has a big clean water and dirty water tank.. the dirty water it pulls up is black! I'm scared to move on from it when these new ones seem to just be moving around dirty water on the floor.. so weird.. This needs a clean water tank and it does it suck the dirty water off the floor or just swirl it around? Otherwise it would need to go back to the base every minute here.. I have white floors, they get dirty fast. The demo wood floors look clean but I feel like mine would have dirty swirl marks everywhere unless I had it go to the base nonstop which is a massive energy drain.😢
Doesn't go under low areas because of the bump on top.
Too bad i bought one but it couldn't go over my thresholds in my new apartment, fired up my old trusty s5 max and it passed like a charm, so i went with the roborock s8 pro ultra instead, same there not a single problem with the thresholds..
I had this a few years ago when I upgraded from a eufy 30c to the ecovacs t8 aivi!
I've had nothing but problems with it. Especially with the app and map and it never got sorted. So as good as this looks, I think I would go roborock over ecovacs
There is another thing: the mop does not distribute the water equally. It starts with a lot of water and then 3 minutes later, almost no water on the floor. For the price, it does not worth at all.
Hello Sir, I have a Ecovacs Deebot T20, and am trying to use it on multiple floors. Do I have to take the charging base to different floors to use it? It's quite heavy. If I only take the robot to a different floor without the charging station, after cleaning, the robot will keep trying to find the charging station. After a long time looking, it will stop and say it can't find the charging station.
Is the obstacle avoidance better than the X1 or X2?
What’s the difference between this and the X2 Omni?
Nice video !.! Quick question can you setup a job to only vacum and another one to only mop ? I like tonhave both work separated to avoid extra cleaning on the central brush and dust bin
Yes, you can setup jobs for either, or making one that first vaccumes, then mops.
@@hirolau thanks for the answer 👍🏼👍🏼
I think Dreame x20 pro will be superior to the ecovacs T20
What do you use this robot vacuum at your house
No not yet ,,,,Ecovacs X2 Omni will be released in Oct ...I hope they update their software otherwise I won't get it ....I heard Roborock much better in term of software!
We are looking at that one as well as a handful of new releases now, so the initial reviews will be coming out one at a time starting next week. \
Does the T20 actually fully turn OFF the voice assistant?
I had the X1 with their YIKO assistant and even with it off it would get triggered and yell "TO TURN ON YIKO VOICE ASSISTANT..."
where have you found one with a water tank?? those variants only came out in China, the west gets only one model it appears