For me, Elite Smelting Factory from Mekanism has won over the IC2 Electric furnace like multicore processors won over CPU with very high clock speed. The power consumption is too high to be practical
That was soooooo cool ^.^ that Electric Furnace from IndustrialCraft2 is the best I've ever seen. Even faster than he fastest one I've made with SlimeFun. It was so cool seen all the different furnaces at once like this. Loved it!
One extra thing about the Electric Furnace that I've spotted; it uses the vanilla furnace smelting recipie. If you have certain nether ores in your pack as well, smelting them will make 2 ore blocks of the regular type. Which means combining mods can net you 10 ingots per nether ore if eveything lines up. Check the in-game NEI/JEI to make sure though
I've watched quite a few of your videos mostly mekanism videos and theres a lot of great things to say, but I really admire that you put time into what you do and care enough about your fan base to respond to multiple comments that may be over a year after the original video was posted... Its been 2 years but you've responded to comments three weeks ago and I admire that. Thank you for taking the time.
I appreciate the kind words Cruhsawnt. I do try to respond to every comment, though I do admittedly miss some from time to time. I figure if they take the time and watch the video and comment, least I can do is respond back.
3 years late to the party, but I have a challenger for the ic2 furnace Furnace Overhaul mod: Zenith Furnace Upgrades: Electric Fuel Upgrade, Processing Upgrade, Speed Upgrade. It far outstrips anything I have seen before. As with the others power it with the creative energy cube, but it can run with 512 RF/t. It can work off of less power, but that is what I always supply it with. Compare: the output, the power requirement, and the speed, between FO mod and IC2
Still not exactly a fair comparison between the seared furnace and the electric furnace. The seared furnace can get far larger than that - it doesn't just scale up but out as well, it is by far and away the most fuel efficient furnace for bulk smelting(lava may take a lot of power to produce but the seared furnace uses hardly any in the process of smelting), and if you start throwing in double chests of items, the electric furnace, for all of its speed, will not be able to beat the shear volume that the seared furnace can provide.
Hi John. I can see your point, building a massive Tinkerer's Furnace from bedrock to build limit would indeed allow for a large amount of cooking at a single time, though i think they capped the height it can be not too long ago. There is still the slow cook time to deal with per round of items, but the output per cook duration could be high. However, I'm a realist at heart, I like my machines practical. If you are cooking a standard workload of a couple items then that massive furnace is still going to be slow and cumbersome, not to count the resources needed to build it. Whereby the smaller quicker one block powered furnaces will serve you well and allow you to get onto what you are wanting to do faster. The only point at which the Tinkerer's Furnace could outshine the others, as i'm thinking, is in the extremely rare situation where you'd need to as you mentioned cook up many double chests worth of stuff rapidly. However, to build the furnace of a sufficient size you'd need many many many double chests of furnace cooked seared stone. It's just not seeming practical to my way of thinking. Don't get me wrong, I like the furnace, and it doesn't get enough love from the community. We can agree there. I even used it in my 'The Final Frontier' series. But at the end of the day, for general purpose use that most of us will need in a Minecraft playthrough the speed of single cooked items will be more beneficial than the power to cook a bajillion items at once slowly. Just my way of thinking. But I really do appreciate you bringing a different perspective and getting me to think through it. I love it when someone can make me think of things in a different way.
@@oblyx Each slot processes at roughly a normal furnace speed when given lava in a tinker's furnace. So if you put in 9 stacks of fish _distributed across every slot_, the race would at least be a lot closer. Sadly, I don't know any way of doing that.
Add a lever on top of induction furnace from ic2 and turn it on to keep it 100% heat forever. It gonna be fast, may be not the fastest... But pretty fast
There is the wireless heating coil from extra utils 2 that can be used in the ultimate furnace that will not use coal. Only some rf from the battery and some gp. Also there are upgrades from calculator but i don't know if they can be used in the furnace. And lastly (i said this in the 5x ores too) i think that there are ultimate upgrades for mekanism machines
@@oblyx No but it is the most largest array i've ever made, it's so big that at maximum render distance in the center i can't see the east and west sides of it, but i have a small draconic reactor, not too big, but still a mind boggling amount of power
Wait until this guy sees the gregtech multismelter. At high enough voltages and coils it can smelt tens of thousands of items per second, although gregtech isnt included in many packs nowdays
I'm aware of that but it wouldn't be fair because it requires another mod which may or may not be in the pack. Also, that's a fairly recent addition and as I remember wasn't an option when this was filmed.
@@oblyx the only thing I would have added really was thaumcrafts infernal furnace or whatever it is called. As far as I know it can take infinite number of items and u can leave it for a few mins and it cooks everything. From sand to ores to chicken.
Botania is a pure tech mod to my way of thinking. I purposely left it out because whenever i put it in a video like this i get tons of haters. I love the mod and have done several tutorials on it. I'm building a huge cake based mana creation machine now in my Revelation series. Glad I'm not the only one out there that likes it. Sometimes i feel alone. 😁
I'll definitely check out your tutorials on Botania.. and probably every other mod that you've covered. Glad to see you agreeing with botania being tech.. I was not expecting this. I too have to face people much like those haters you face just because I love Botania.
yes, depending on the capacitor you use (which some mods add capacitors past octodict and better than loot capacitors) you can get it down to up to 3 items a tick.
As I mentioned in the video, that's not always true. It depends upon how the pack is modified and we were using a specific pack that was popular at the time.
I didn't forget it. It's not in the pack. Only those mods included in that pack we're used. Otherwise there could be hundreds across different versions.
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The one thing you have said about the Ultimate Furnace is that it would be able to do those 9 stacks with just 9 sticks as fuel.
When the Induction furnace from ic2 get redstone signal or redstone inverter upgrade he will be always in 100% heat level.
I'm not well versed in IC2 so good info, thanks.
The problem with that is that it will always be draining power to maintain that heat.
@@agushernandez6083 ends up only taking 1 eu per tick I think to maintain heat
Nice Video
Sidenote:
The winner uses so much more energy then the others because of the upgrades.
This is a few years late, but the upgrades on Extra Utils now has tiers. Higher tier upgrades allow more to be installed.
yup, things are always changing. i may do another down the road, but there are so many other things I want to get to first and just never enough time.
Ic2 electric furnace with around 20 overclocker smelts a stack of items in a tick
Edit: it does have the drawback that it uses WAAYYYYY more power
When power is unlimited, it's not a drawback, which you get to that eventually.
For me, Elite Smelting Factory from Mekanism has won over the IC2 Electric furnace like multicore processors won over CPU with very high clock speed.
The power consumption is too high to be practical
He also didn't show that the ultimate exists... Which it has for years...
@@torunsmok5890 Ehhh...
Wasn't that long ago where Elite was the maximum.
That was soooooo cool ^.^ that Electric Furnace from IndustrialCraft2 is the best I've ever seen. Even faster than he fastest one I've made with SlimeFun. It was so cool seen all the different furnaces at once like this. Loved it!
Thanks! I was surprised by the results. I knew it could be pretty quick but had know idea it would outshine the supremium furnace.
One extra thing about the Electric Furnace that I've spotted; it uses the vanilla furnace smelting recipie. If you have certain nether ores in your pack as well, smelting them will make 2 ore blocks of the regular type. Which means combining mods can net you 10 ingots per nether ore if eveything lines up. Check the in-game NEI/JEI to make sure though
I've watched quite a few of your videos mostly mekanism videos and theres a lot of great things to say, but I really admire that you put time into what you do and care enough about your fan base to respond to multiple comments that may be over a year after the original video was posted... Its been 2 years but you've responded to comments three weeks ago and I admire that. Thank you for taking the time.
I appreciate the kind words Cruhsawnt. I do try to respond to every comment, though I do admittedly miss some from time to time. I figure if they take the time and watch the video and comment, least I can do is respond back.
@@oblyx well that shows a lot about you and I just want to say you've earned a subscriber. And great video I enjoyed it :) have a good day/ night
@@cruhsawnt3494 thank you
1.5x speed does well with your vids when I’m not just chilling
Watch how ya like brother. Just glad ya watched.
3 years late to the party, but I have a challenger for the ic2 furnace
Furnace Overhaul mod: Zenith Furnace
Upgrades: Electric Fuel Upgrade, Processing Upgrade, Speed Upgrade.
It far outstrips anything I have seen before. As with the others power it with the creative energy cube, but it can run with 512 RF/t. It can work off of less power, but that is what I always supply it with.
Compare: the output, the power requirement, and the speed, between FO mod and IC2
Yeah, it's do for a refresh with newer stuff.
Still not exactly a fair comparison between the seared furnace and the electric furnace. The seared furnace can get far larger than that - it doesn't just scale up but out as well, it is by far and away the most fuel efficient furnace for bulk smelting(lava may take a lot of power to produce but the seared furnace uses hardly any in the process of smelting), and if you start throwing in double chests of items, the electric furnace, for all of its speed, will not be able to beat the shear volume that the seared furnace can provide.
Hi John. I can see your point, building a massive Tinkerer's Furnace from bedrock to build limit would indeed allow for a large amount of cooking at a single time, though i think they capped the height it can be not too long ago. There is still the slow cook time to deal with per round of items, but the output per cook duration could be high. However, I'm a realist at heart, I like my machines practical. If you are cooking a standard workload of a couple items then that massive furnace is still going to be slow and cumbersome, not to count the resources needed to build it. Whereby the smaller quicker one block powered furnaces will serve you well and allow you to get onto what you are wanting to do faster. The only point at which the Tinkerer's Furnace could outshine the others, as i'm thinking, is in the extremely rare situation where you'd need to as you mentioned cook up many double chests worth of stuff rapidly. However, to build the furnace of a sufficient size you'd need many many many double chests of furnace cooked seared stone. It's just not seeming practical to my way of thinking. Don't get me wrong, I like the furnace, and it doesn't get enough love from the community. We can agree there. I even used it in my 'The Final Frontier' series. But at the end of the day, for general purpose use that most of us will need in a Minecraft playthrough the speed of single cooked items will be more beneficial than the power to cook a bajillion items at once slowly. Just my way of thinking. But I really do appreciate you bringing a different perspective and getting me to think through it. I love it when someone can make me think of things in a different way.
@@oblyx Each slot processes at roughly a normal furnace speed when given lava in a tinker's furnace. So if you put in 9 stacks of fish _distributed across every slot_, the race would at least be a lot closer.
Sadly, I don't know any way of doing that.
May I introduce you to
*S E C O N D I C 2 F U R N A C E*
Add a lever on top of induction furnace from ic2 and turn it on to keep it 100% heat forever.
It gonna be fast, may be not the fastest... But pretty fast
So I did the math and graphed it out. It will take using 300 stacks of items at once before the industrial furnace becomes faster than ic2
In my opinion industrial craft is broken, I much prefer the classic thermal expansion.
@Ramtin Kolahchi i agree I really like the complexity of mekanism
I would've liked to see the thaumic furnace from thaumcraft as well, but otherwise this was a cool lineup. Great video as usual!
That was awhile back. I'm not sure but I think thaumcraft hadn't been updated yet.
@@oblyx oh sorry, I didn't look at the posted date 😅
I know this video is old, but usually the ic2 furnace can hold up to 4 stacks of upgrades and at ~28 it has literally 0 processing time.
There is the wireless heating coil from extra utils 2 that can be used in the ultimate furnace that will not use coal. Only some rf from the battery and some gp. Also there are upgrades from calculator but i don't know if they can be used in the furnace. And lastly (i said this in the 5x ores too) i think that there are ultimate upgrades for mekanism machines
there are ultimate tier upgrades but you cant use em on elite factories so no elite is max tier
I made the largest immersive engineering arc furnace array, i needed a draconic reactor to run it
Nah a diesel gen from IE runs it fine. I've got that exact setup going in my current Revelations series.
@@oblyx No but it is the most largest array i've ever made, it's so big that at maximum render distance in the center i can't see the east and west sides of it, but i have a small draconic reactor, not too big, but still a mind boggling amount of power
The ultimate furnace is indistinguishable in speed (to me) from the electric furnace, and the former uses 0 rf
Ultimate furnace work with extra utility heater
I know I'm a tad late, but you can speed up tinkers by 4x by using liquid pyrotheum instead of lava
Wait until this guy sees the gregtech multismelter. At high enough voltages and coils it can smelt tens of thousands of items per second, although gregtech isnt included in many packs nowdays
It's a dead mod. I haven't heard anyone picking up the torch to update it.
@@oblyx GT6 is still slowly being developed by greg.
While its an unofficial version, GTCE is also being develped
i know im very late but you can use blazing pyrotheum in the tinkers smeltery and the seared furnace wich massivly increases the "smelt" rate,
That's required multiple updated mods to be in a pack. I try to keep it mod per mod so people don't get confused.
@@oblyx yeah that's fair, good vid btw I thought ultimate furnace was the fastest, really didn't know electric furnace was that good
Appreciate that, thanks.
You forgot ender io. Alloy smelter, with the top tier capacitor upgrade is about half as quick as IC2 because it smelts 3 items at once
Only included what was in the pack.
Your voice is so relaxing
Haha, thanks. Glad I take some of the strain of the day off ya. I appreciate the nice comment.
Where is ProjectE red matter furnace???
Not in the pack
Whit the smelter if you put pyro it's faster
With a portable ender chest mod you could carry practically infinite food on you
True dat
Or ender storage mod using refined storage or applied energistics to continually add food to it and use an ender pouch to access it remotely
Unobtainium furnace join the chat
the electric furnace is a paid actor
/s
Lowkey sounds like bob ross
I should make some happy little trees 😃
You can blazing pyrotheum the tinkers furnace
I'm aware of that but it wouldn't be fair because it requires another mod which may or may not be in the pack. Also, that's a fairly recent addition and as I remember wasn't an option when this was filmed.
@@oblyx ah ok i didnt know that. Great video btw. I love your tutorials.
@@ChromaticCluck thanks cluck, I really appreciate that.
@@oblyx the only thing I would have added really was thaumcrafts infernal furnace or whatever it is called. As far as I know it can take infinite number of items and u can leave it for a few mins and it cooks everything. From sand to ores to chicken.
You forgot botania exoflame furnaces.. the more the exoflames the faster it is.. Also botania is magically tech!!!!
Botania is a pure tech mod to my way of thinking. I purposely left it out because whenever i put it in a video like this i get tons of haters. I love the mod and have done several tutorials on it. I'm building a huge cake based mana creation machine now in my Revelation series. Glad I'm not the only one out there that likes it. Sometimes i feel alone. 😁
I'll definitely check out your tutorials on Botania.. and probably every other mod that you've covered. Glad to see you agreeing with botania being tech.. I was not expecting this. I too have to face people much like those haters you face just because I love Botania.
The ultimate furnace is the best because it doesn't have upgrades and you compared it to a furnace that did
Not digging your logic there. The question wasn't what was the fastest without upgrades, it was simply what was the fastest period.
I don’t think you know quite how expensive the ultimate furnace is, the IC2 electric furnace is cheap compared
@@Zipplandia I know how expensive it is but it can pump out so much stuff for way cheaper
Ender IO?
yes, depending on the capacitor you use (which some mods add capacitors past octodict and better than loot capacitors) you can get it down to up to 3 items a tick.
Wrong about the extra utilities furnace it can hold up to 64 ultimate speed upgrades
As I mentioned in the video, that's not always true. It depends upon how the pack is modified and we were using a specific pack that was popular at the time.
@@oblyx what pack is it anyways?
@@oblyx He said ultimate speed upgrades, as in the top tier extrautils speed upgrade
You forgot a mod rotary craft
The friction heater it can cook stuff so fast
I didn't forget it. It's not in the pack. Only those mods included in that pack we're used. Otherwise there could be hundreds across different versions.
Where's ender io and thermal expansion
Thermal Expansion was in the video.
Meh. Ridiculously unnecessary speed. And I dislke IC2 quite a lot, so I never use it. Gonna stay that way.
This is a terrible comparison of all the furnaces, yuh failed to show the best potential of each furnace.
@Dustin Tepperlake Redstone furnace can double your food output with an augment