This is the most aggressive guide ever, it's like my dentist is insulting me while reluctantly fixing my teeth. I lowkey kind of love it, but I feel slightly sorry for the new blood coming into wow classic. At least thanks for picking up Kargoz's legacy! Also just to reiterate the strength point for people who don't quite realize: a weapon with 15 dps and +7 strength is basically as good as a weapon that has 16 dps and no stats, think about that.
Angry Pallytime LOL. Me = "Please... stop... I want food... the hell is wrong with you people? You want a 1-5 leveling guide while I am at it? Damn!" I know when paladin gets hard. And 1-30 is NOT it. Do whatever you like and have fun.
First paladin ever and one of my first characters ever right now. Lvl15. No Hc. Do your recommend i try this or just ret to get a hang of the class ? Ty !
So if we go retri as you show in the video you get - Mana reserve with benediction - Deflection - SoCom if you happen to find a slow weapon - Pursue of justice (huge for leveling) - Civiction = crit chace (you will never get that crit chance so early) - Improved Retri aura (big dmg when you go with 1h) You are 29. You can play with both 2h or 1h/shield (whatever you find best or buy anyway). Why would I respec at 31? Just to get BoS is better than all this utility and damage you get from retri tree? I would go on and get Reboubt/precision/Guardian's favor. And maybe...maybe at 42 with BoW I would respec to prot if I feel my killing time is not good enough and taking more mobs might be better. Since we are talking about HC, I think I will pass on all instances as I level.
Seal of Command is 7PPM reguardless of weapons speed. For example. Its 46% Chance to proc with a 4s Speed Weapon and 23% with a 2s speed weapon. No need to use Slow weps with Command. Going Ret if you know what you're doing is FINE. Waring Stam / Int gear mostly and judging on CD is probably your best bet DPS wise. I think I tested it and could look it up if you like. Stam / Spirt / Int gear... aka a Mix is Really good, but in that case you don't judge on CD... but you use Might instead of wisdom. The Stam / Int also lets you use Might which is nice though. Keep in mind you get 10 hp per stam, 15 mana per int, and a WHOOPING .14 DPS per point of Str making Str pretty useless without gear. Holy / Prot... Stam / Int build is just a well rounded MONSTER... but isn't "Objectively" superior to Ret and 2 hander. Both have the same kill times effectively.
@@pallytime2156 yes after your vids I won't chase str/sta. I will try to get sts/int. I know about ppm of SoCom but would you go with it with fast 2h and not SoR?
That's a VERY deep answer but in general Command don't care about Wep speed just the damage of the wep. So weapon progression is just "Hight DPS = Better" SoR weapon progression is Knightly Longsword at level 33 and... nothing else. And mean NOTHING else.
Move Speed is "ok". Its 8% though so don't get to excited. One paladin will get dazed and die running from things that can kill it (aka large packs of mobs). The other has like 3x the effective HP and can just heal / walk out of such things dazed the entire time... its kind a gross.
I wonder why you don't mention Verigan's Fist? Or maybe i missed it. But nobody cares about smith mighty hammer. Verigans fist is GODLIKE. You feel sooo strong from 22ish-30
brother is there an asylum looking for you? 😂 I just found you because kargoz is gone but wtf is your way of doing a video, speaking, making grunts all the time, swearing a LOT. literally mental. really makes me miss kargoz and his straight forward atittude and not this info from wish lel. at least I have FUUUUUUUN rocking some 1hander on HC I guess. so thanks for that at least
Nah. What's happening is that I make Paladin Vs X PvP Guides and any PvE questions I use to pawn off on Kargoz... but sense he's not around... and all other paladins left with guides out a dumber than a box of rocks... Ya'll get to deal with ME And the PvP community MIGHT just have a bit more of a hard edge to us than the PvE community. Also, holy crud, do I get some DUMB comments. I think it must be 10 year olds because my brain struggles to understand these questions. I got people saying "I am not sold on Blessing of Sactuary for AoE farming over Divine Favor Free Crit heal" Asking me for a "Talent Guide" after I told them 11/0/0 tell level 20 then be 11/21/0 at level 41. Like what? Ya'll want me to hold your hand? Is it REALLY that hard? If you mess it up it costs you... what... 5 gold to respec TOPS? Just stop... guys... please. Damn clowns what to know how to min-max leveling. Here how you min-max leveling = Have fun. We done here? Damn...
This is the most aggressive guide ever, it's like my dentist is insulting me while reluctantly fixing my teeth. I lowkey kind of love it, but I feel slightly sorry for the new blood coming into wow classic. At least thanks for picking up Kargoz's legacy!
Also just to reiterate the strength point for people who don't quite realize: a weapon with 15 dps and +7 strength is basically as good as a weapon that has 16 dps and no stats, think about that.
Angry Pallytime LOL.
Me = "Please... stop... I want food... the hell is wrong with you people? You want a 1-5 leveling guide while I am at it? Damn!"
I know when paladin gets hard. And 1-30 is NOT it. Do whatever you like and have fun.
@@pallytime2156I need a 1-4 leveling guide plz!
Kill me@@FUELISLANDGLADIATOR
Can you make a character creation guide after the 1-4 guide? 😅
@@TheSwampLordGG"go fucking have fun"
"go fucking have fun " made my day LOL
this is killing me lol glad i found this channel . Not played in years and this vibe is just what I needed and wanted, utube can be so dull it seems
This guy cracks me up 😂
First paladin ever and one of my first characters ever right now. Lvl15. No Hc. Do your recommend i try this or just ret to get a hang of the class ? Ty !
That's an old video... check out Holy Shock / Spirt videos. TLDR = Spirt is kinda proving chad
I assume this applys to pretty much all classes regarding stam and armor being the best. maybe spirit if ur a caster.
Thanks for clarifying that :)
So if we go retri as you show in the video you get
- Mana reserve with benediction
- Deflection
- SoCom if you happen to find a slow weapon
- Pursue of justice (huge for leveling)
- Civiction = crit chace (you will never get that crit chance so early)
- Improved Retri aura (big dmg when you go with 1h)
You are 29. You can play with both 2h or 1h/shield (whatever you find best or buy anyway). Why would I respec at 31? Just to get BoS is better than all this utility and damage you get from retri tree? I would go on and get Reboubt/precision/Guardian's favor. And maybe...maybe at 42 with BoW I would respec to prot if I feel my killing time is not good enough and taking more mobs might be better. Since we are talking about HC, I think I will pass on all instances as I level.
Seal of Command is 7PPM reguardless of weapons speed. For example. Its 46% Chance to proc with a 4s Speed Weapon and 23% with a 2s speed weapon. No need to use Slow weps with Command.
Going Ret if you know what you're doing is FINE. Waring Stam / Int gear mostly and judging on CD is probably your best bet DPS wise. I think I tested it and could look it up if you like. Stam / Spirt / Int gear... aka a Mix is Really good, but in that case you don't judge on CD... but you use Might instead of wisdom. The Stam / Int also lets you use Might which is nice though.
Keep in mind you get 10 hp per stam, 15 mana per int, and a WHOOPING .14 DPS per point of Str making Str pretty useless without gear.
Holy / Prot... Stam / Int build is just a well rounded MONSTER... but isn't "Objectively" superior to Ret and 2 hander. Both have the same kill times effectively.
Check out the SoM video I suggested if you want to see the test and get the findings when I tired just about everything out.
@@pallytime2156 yes after your vids I won't chase str/sta. I will try to get sts/int. I know about ppm of SoCom but would you go with it with fast 2h and not SoR?
That's a VERY deep answer but in general Command don't care about Wep speed just the damage of the wep. So weapon progression is just "Hight DPS = Better"
SoR weapon progression is Knightly Longsword at level 33 and... nothing else. And mean NOTHING else.
What about rushing towards movement speed?
Move Speed is "ok". Its 8% though so don't get to excited. One paladin will get dazed and die running from things that can kill it (aka large packs of mobs).
The other has like 3x the effective HP and can just heal / walk out of such things dazed the entire time... its kind a gross.
Very cool
Is there an addon that will get to to the top level as soon as I plug my computer in? Eh? Classic is what? Oh......... Nevermind.
Not to be the grammar police but it’s ‘Tanaris’ not ‘Tarnaris’ 😅
Pretty sure he said Tarnassus.
@@roboturner in another video he mentions the desert Tarnaris so he’s still wrong
I wonder why you don't mention Verigan's Fist? Or maybe i missed it. But nobody cares about smith mighty hammer. Verigans fist is GODLIKE. You feel sooo strong from 22ish-30
2 handed weapons will get you killed in hardcore. Fine outside of HC. 20% of palaldin players likely die just trying to get Verigans Fist
brother is there an asylum looking for you? 😂 I just found you because kargoz is gone but wtf is your way of doing a video, speaking, making grunts all the time, swearing a LOT. literally mental. really makes me miss kargoz and his straight forward atittude and not this info from wish lel. at least I have FUUUUUUUN rocking some 1hander on HC I guess. so thanks for that at least
Nah. What's happening is that I make Paladin Vs X PvP Guides and any PvE questions I use to pawn off on Kargoz... but sense he's not around... and all other paladins left with guides out a dumber than a box of rocks...
Ya'll get to deal with ME
And the PvP community MIGHT just have a bit more of a hard edge to us than the PvE community.
Also, holy crud, do I get some DUMB comments. I think it must be 10 year olds because my brain struggles to understand these questions.
I got people saying "I am not sold on Blessing of Sactuary for AoE farming over Divine Favor Free Crit heal"
Asking me for a "Talent Guide" after I told them 11/0/0 tell level 20 then be 11/21/0 at level 41.
Like what?
Ya'll want me to hold your hand? Is it REALLY that hard? If you mess it up it costs you... what... 5 gold to respec TOPS?
Just stop... guys... please. Damn clowns what to know how to min-max leveling.
Here how you min-max leveling = Have fun.
We done here?
Damn...