Enterprise Clears Moorings | Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Admiral Kirk boards the Enterprise to oversee a training cruise for Starfleet Academy cadets.
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Best startup ever. The music just feels right. This whole movie is a shout out to naval battles of sailing ships. Perfection.
Correction, I submit this fanmade startup for ‘the undiscovered country’ is better. Still this holds as the best ‘actual’ one.
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this is the best science fiction has ever looked, and quite possibly ever will look
Its the only series I have see all in the cinema....i hope they do re runs
Best uniforms in all of Star Trek, sharp and professional. I could see a RL navy wearing those uniforms, or something like it.
Absolutely, I was pleased to see the Orville season 3 dress uniforms take some heavy inspiration from these.
Much better than the lounging clothes used as uniforms in The Motion Picture
As a longtime fan I wholeheartedly agree. The uniforms absolutely command respect.
@@rprince418Or the 24th century PJs.
@@rprince418 even TNG had lazy uniforms compared to these
This style of cinematography, degree of detail and style is almost all but lost today. Not just a fantastic Trek moment, but a great bit of cinema!
Correct!
Well said
Who says Spock doesn't have a sense of humor? Here we see him screwing with Kirk, McCoy and Saavik all at once. But also showing off his prize pupil and giving her a teachable moment in the process. Meanwhile, you can practically hear Kirk thinking, "Why the hell is Spock putting MY ship in the hands of this child?"
Give how much longer vulcans live its probable she was the same age as him.
And we see him get his own back in Undiscovered Country when he exchanges looks with Spock after ordering impulse out of Spacedock
I swear you can almost see Mr Spock smile when he stands up….
Remember.. sulu is the driver...and he ain't going to crash the lady is he..
Exactly. I don't know why Kirk's so terrified.
Spock: Mr. Sulu. You may... indulge yourself.
Sulu: Risa it is.
This film defined the meaning of ‘perfection’!.
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STAR TREK II used the same footage of the Enterprise leaving drydock as they did in TMP, but with they way they edited it for II, and the bombastic but beautiful score by the late James Horner, it felt like an entirely new scene. That's good filmmaking. Not to mention that the Constitution Class refit of the Enterprise/Enterprise-A is, in my opinion, the best looking Enterprise that has been shown on both big screen and small screen. I grew up on TOS, but, that'll always be the most beautiful and majestic Enterprise of all time, in my opinion, with the Sovereign Class Enterprise-E in a very close second, tied with the Constitution Class ship from STRANGE NEW WORLDS.
Didn't feel entirely new to me, that's for sure. Quite obviously bits from TMP. Seeing as WoK is my favorite movie of all time, I don't mind at all.
I've never understood why Kirk looks so panicked. Saavik is just overseeing the process. Both Sulu and the navigator are experienced officers.
I think it was more just to drive home how inexperienced most of the crew is for this voyage, setting up for even greater tension when Khan sucker punches the Enterprise (also explaining why the Enterprise may have been so easily crippled even by a sneak attack.) That and maybe the 1980's culture still be a bit cautious about a female captain?
Because HE wasn’t the one giving the orders. Egomaniacs of any stripe become unmanned when they’re not in direct control of a situation. They always want to rush to the controls and take over, to make sure it’s done “the right way”. Even if it’s already being done just fine.
@@DeathReviews 100%. Narcissist gonna narcissist.
The navigator's an officer cadet like Saavik (red undershirt). Just look at how he's acting at the con station next to Sulu: looking everywhere on the console like he's not quite familiar with everything yet, whereas Sulu is just sitting there all nice and relaxed, like it's just another sunday drive. Kind of a great juxtaposition actually and I'm sure deliberately done to contrast the cadet crew from the experienced officers.
Navigator is a cadet also, if you look at his sleeve, you see the same while patch on his left arm, the same as Saavik.
I remember the first Star Trek motion picture where it showed the enterprise clearing moorings, and I thought it was dull. So when I saw them doing it again, I rolled my eyes and prepared for disappointment.
But then I saw the spectacle of it and heard the awesome music, and was blown away. The subtle humor of Bones offering Kirk a tranquilizer was icing on the cake.
It’s all in the presentation…
I'm pretty sure they used the same footage from The Motion Picture, just not all of it. They kept the pacing up.
@@thegardenofeatin5965Yeah it was reused footage, but they didn't hang on the shots for nearly as long as they did in the motion picture. Also, I suspect that they changed the color grading on it to make it slightly different. It seems warmer than it was in tmp.
This scene cracks me up. Spock gives Saavik the conn, and she instructs Sulu on what to do. Kirk's all nervous for some reason. Does he think if she gives Sulu something incorrect, that Sulu will automatically do it and destroy the Enterprise? I'm sure he'd be more like, "Are you sure you want me to do that, Lieutenant?"
Thank god she knew to go forward.
Why is Kirk so nervous? Sulu is at the helm. What could possibly go wrong? 🙂
He's not nervous, he's pissed he's a passenger and not calling the shots.
Thank you for this so very much!
I am not the biggest fan of Star Trek. But I love this movie. Because my mom is a Trekkie. I love this moment in film.
To this day I really believe Kirstie played a better Savik than Robin.
Agreed.
Concur.
Wait, is McCoy saying "would you like a tranquiliser" or "would you like to tranquilise her"?
The former. But it would've been funny if McCoy had sneaked behind the captains chair and put her to sleep :)
@@Pavel_M_Mihalik ok, I just became unsure for a moment. Good that it's this way. Thank you for the upload, one of my favourite moments in the movie!
In hindsight I'm not sure why he was worried. Despite Savok giving orders, Sulu is still the one flying. It's not like he's gonna drive the ship into the spacedock.
@@rprince418 asian driver AND a rookie in the captains chair? oh my gaaaaawd
@@defmore5099 Chopper pilot to Sulu "you fly?".. "oh, here and there". Star Trek IV
Spock is perfectly aware that humans are driven by emotions, so he decided to test this fact on Kirk. 🙃😅
Sulu is the pilot, not the person sitting in the captain's chair. Admiral Kirk would have nothing to worry about since he is intimately familiar with Sulu's piloting skills and spent years trusting him with the ship's and the entire crew's safety.
Sulu is thinking to himself " I do this everyday DUH!"
Wait until you own a boat and start giving orders to an inexperienced crew. :)
Major continuity error. “Aft thrusters” should clear the space dock. “One quarter impulse power” should drive the Enterprise hard and fast away from Earth, such that the planet is a rapidly shrinking image on the view screen, within a few seconds. Kirk did this in one of the other movies, taking the ship out of the hanger of space dock, from a dead stop. The space dock disappeared really quickly… 😅
Trek has always been a bit inconstant with impulse speeds. In VI they aren’t going fast enough when Kirk orders them to use impulse out of Spacedock - the remastered scene someone posted on YT a few years ago fixes that.
What a metaphor for me.
I am thinking that one quarter impulse power really means 0.25 percent of full impulse power. Full impulse power lilely is around 110000 miles per second
A minor detail. At least you’d clear the dock before you could hit anything.
But yes, ‘aft thrusters ahead slow’ might’ve been more prudent, especially since regulations specifically state thrusters only while in space dock. But when did Admiral Kirk ever pay attention to that?
@@FS2K4Pilot even still..even at .25 percent of full impulse power it would still be thirty or forty miles per second. It only looks slow on the movies because they needed the slower speed to build tension
@@chrisdodds7469 It’s a little faster than that. 1/4 impulse gets you more like 40,000 miles per second.
@@FS2K4Pilot if thats the case in star trek three The Search of spock the enterprise would have collided with the starbase bay door and been blown apart. Kirk did say one quarter impulse power when they started moving.
@@chrisdodds7469that would’ve happened even at 40 miles per second.
Spacedock still isn't finished still relying on the open shipyard hanger
Actually Daryl I think they had ESD finished about that point but they still were relying on open Gantry type shipyards for certain starships at that point at least for certain things I do know that in the first movie they they had been refitting USS Enterprise NCC 1701 in dry dock facility 3 or as some call space dock 4 at the San Francisco fleet yards orbiting Earth actually the funny part is if you go by what they say in some of the Lost years books supposedly they disconnected the saucer section and flew it down to the Navy yards near San Francisco to do a lot of the work on the saucer there instead of leaving the ship connected and having to do without gravity in the saucer section while certain stuff was being done in the lost year's novel a flag full of stars they did go and cover enterprises saucer taking off from the San Francisco Navy Yard and having it flown up to dry dock where it would meet up with the engineering section and it's nacelles but then they had to have dry dock Chief Billingsgate and his tractor pressor team maneuver the saucer properly for final reattachment because unfortunately back then they didn't have the separation systems that ships like the Enterprise d under Captain Picard had where they could reattach the saucer without the need for certain equipment.
@@mikegallant811 Actually, at this point in time they did have separation systems. The only thing was they were for use in an emergency and would require a Space Dock or Starbase to reattach the saucer section to the stardrive (if said stardrive hadn't been destroyed in battle or warp core breach).
Why was the deflector array red when starting up but blue after leaving spacedock?
"Why was the deflector array red when starting up but blue after leaving spacedock?"
The deflector array is designed to send out an energy wave ahead of the ship that can push gas, dust, and other larger objects out to the side and away from the ships line of travel at the highest warp speeds. Think about what would happen if the deflector array was engaged inside of space dock.
It's been posed that the red/orange deflector array is the array at standby after being brought online and the ship is moving on maneuvering thrusters where navigational deflectors are not needed. It goes blue when active once under impulse and begins moving at speeds where impact with even a micro meteor would ruin your whole day.
Cause it was in the script.
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"Cause it was in the script."
That also. Perhaps because the writers actually gave it some thought and realized that there should be a difference. Every so often they actually engage their brains and think about the minutia while writing.
@@oldtimefarmboy617 Or maybe the lightbulbs they had only came in two colors.
For everything there is a first time.
The best of all the movies. Wish Kirstie Alley had returned as Savik. Didn’t like Robin Curtis.
She foolishly thought she should get second-highest pay, after Shatner & Nimoy (who got the same pay). Never mind De Kelley. Paramount told her to GTFO.
@@just_kos99 It wasn’t her, it was her stupid agent.
Question...when Kirk orders "one-quarter impulse power" is he talking about power level or speed?
Same with today's ships ordering "full speed", "flanking", etc., (it is possible to request specific speeds: "make revolutions for thirty knots", etc.) or with warp factors: power level.
I've always assumed it's asking degree of speed under light speed
Sulu: "Admiral on the bridge."
Me: No, Kirk was still in the turbolift. He'd have to take at least one step onto the deck to *technically* be on the bridge-- I've got to quit binge-watching CinemaSins videos. 😀
One could argue that since the turbolift capsule was parked inside the bridge dome, Sulu’s line was technically okay. 😅
@@Pavel_M_Mihalik Yeah, that makes sense. 🙂
Shut up Wesley!
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Truck here
Where riker ahhhhaa
Her pronouns are he and him.
Naval tradition for 300 years nothing to do with Star Trek....they changed it in the 90's. Sad.
SORRY BUT BY FAR THIS IS THE WORST OF ALL THE Star Trek Film s , BUT BUT BUT saying that seeing Enterprise coming out of Space Dock All Shiney and New W , O , W . allway s get s me , . ; : .
are you actually mentally ill
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Gonna have to explain that take chief
@@beepthemeep12 Schizophrenia?
Respectfully, why do you consider this the worst of the Star Trek films?
Saw this in the theater. Didn't know at the time at age 9 or 10 it was going to be one of the best sci-fi movies of all time! At the very least the best Trek movie.
When I was a young teenager I saw this movie in the theater. Still one of the greatest moments of my life watching the Enterprise leaving drydock. I was so excited I couldn't sit still in my seat. I knew this movie was going to be great. Still my favorite Star Trek movie of all time.
Kirstie alli did such a great job portraying saavik
Truth! The lady in Part 3 was good as well but Kirstie Alley was on another level.
I think of this every time I back my old station wagon out of a parking lot
It's amazing how by recutting existing tape and adding a new soundtrack, they maintained the glory/awe of the Enterprise unfurling her sails while dropping so much time.
Fun Fact: most of the lighting you see shining on the various parts of the ship were created using dental mirrors and flashlights off camera
They better play this for CVN-80's launch.
INDEED.
Still the best star trek movie by far.
Absolutely!
Impressive example of why practical models beat CGI...
Rest in Peace Kriste Alley
Only Shatner and Takei left from this scene after Alley’s passing.
It seems only the gold-shirts are left…
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon This is actually true.
Yeah...I'm 44 and it feels veeery strange that Kirsty passed so young. So strange where Trek is now compared this golden age of the early 80s
What about the guy in the navigation position that never says a word and quickly loses his position as Spock moves to the science station and Cheers Lady moves to navigation?
@@seanwebb605 He moved to the Station between Weapons and Communications later in the movie.
Damn I love these beauty shots of the old girl
Must love the james horner cues as the enterprise powers up, impulse engines thrust over and enterprise flies out of spacedock for one more adventure.
The greatest Star Trek film ever made, and that will probably ever be made.
Kirsty Alley did such a good job as Savikk
She did. I miss her.
Even without the Music, this scene still gives me goosebumps.
"Admiral on the Bridge."
Didn't Wrath of Kahn just reuse drydock footage from ST-TMP? Harve Bennett was trying to save money. I know they weren't happy when the Klingon ship trio was reused again from ST-TMP to Wrath of Khan
Golden age of science fiction, 1970-1983.
Why do they call her Mr savvik ?
It’s a naval tradition. Officers below the rank of Commander were called “Mister”.
www.reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/5w4b1b/why_is_saavik_called_mister/
So, was all of this Khan, Spock's death, etc. SULU'S fault? If he had indulged himself a different direction in space, they wouldn't have been the closest ship to Regula?
Oh my....
Not so: the Enterprise was contacted to respond to an emergency on Regula.
The Enterprise will ALWAYS be the closest ship that can be sent for whatever reason. 😂
@@AurizenDarkstar Sometimes other ships in the sector, but not with an experienced commander like James T. Kirk. Even if the ship is a mess.
@@ColonelMarcellusbecause they were the closest
One thing I always loved about TWoK is how the Enterprise is as much a character in it as Kirk or Khan, and maybe no scene in the movie illustrates this as well. It's as much thanks to Horner's immaculate score as it is the still-impressive effects shots.
This is all from the motion picture lol the Goldsmith cue for Enterprise leaving dock is much better
@@cbspock1701 The Goldsmith IS a superior piece, but this ain't bad for a young film composer.
True, and when the Enterprise is destroyed in STIII it guts Kirk (and me) pretty much the same as when he finds out his son is dead. Kirk sacrificed everything beloved to him in order to get Spock back. As weird as it was to bring Spock back, they really did encase it with a great story with some sacrifices that had to be done to achieve it.
@@crimsonviper1138It's probably the best scene in that entire movie. I didn't care much for the search for spock, but watching the enterprise die hit me pretty hard. It was like Kirk, Scotty, and Chekov were pulling the plug on an old friend in hospice.
"Mr Sulu, you may indulge yourself" "Aye sir", it would be more fun if he rolls inverted and goes straight down.
I want the last minute of that to be my ringtone
Spock: "I wish to go. Now."
Seeing her leave her moorings always sends a chill up my spine.
Shame this music wasn’t in any of the TNG films.
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I never tire of watching this, the acting, the music & of course the enterprise.
THIS IS THE FIXED VERSION, THE THEATRICAL RELEASE STILL HAD THE BRACE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SHIP VISIBLE WHEN LEAVING DRY-DOCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, it's still black - you can see at 02:14 the black on our left (the ship's right) follows the ship and masks out the stardock.
They only fixed it for the 4K releases of The Motion Picture and the TMP Director's Cut.
Starboard side
Vaya vaya ya ya ya no hables TH-cam ya ya ya
I do not have any special reason why Sorry just one person who did not like it ;
Awesome !
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All of this we reused from the first movie
Nope, slightly different.
Model was slightly different too
Perfect in every way to convey the moment of readiness for the journey!
This was indeed reused footage from 'The Motion Picture'. Same with the approach of Kirk and company's travel pod.
@@insomniacbritgaming1632not the shots they reused from tmp