It’s interesting which armor survives and what doesn’t, but was just blindsided that lower status knights had imported Italian armor…and it was cheaper?!
One thing I would like to know is why Henry VIII (as I understand it) got German armourers for the armoury at Greenwich. Had the English armour industry died out completely by then? If not, why were the German armourers considered superior?
To paraphrase and summarize from Dr. Capwell's "Arms and Armour of the Renaissance Joust" (Royal Armouries Museum, 2021, p.43) - There were excellent English armourers, particularly in London, but they were artistically and technologically working in the styles of his father and grandfather. As a young king, Henry was fashion-conscious and Continentally-oriented, and he also looked up to Emperor Maximilian I (who was thirty-two years older) as a mentor and role model (plus they had a common enemy in France). Fine armours were often given as diplomatic gifts, and the excellent-quality but conservative English armours would have been ill-suited for gift-giving, plus Henry did not have personal access to the very latest styles and techniques. Apparently Henry hired Milanese armourers first, but was not satisfied with their work, so he replaced them with Flemish and German armourers, whose products suited him better.
Also South German and Austrian armorer from 1480 onward could produce tempered, medium carbon steel armor. The Italian was previously the best armorer in the 15th century in Europe until the Germans/Austrians caught up and surpass them. England only managed to make tempered, medium carbon steel armor because of the imported German armorers and much later in the mid 16th century. The rest of Europe (Spain, France, Poland, Flanders, North Germany couldn't produce steel armor and used iron or low carbon steel. This was from "The Knight and the Blast Furnace".
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27:49: Bannockburn was fought in July 1314, not 1315.
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It’s interesting which armor survives and what doesn’t, but was just blindsided that lower status knights had imported Italian armor…and it was cheaper?!
I love the English style
One thing I would like to know is why Henry VIII (as I understand it) got German armourers for the armoury at Greenwich. Had the English armour industry died out completely by then? If not, why were the German armourers considered superior?
To paraphrase and summarize from Dr. Capwell's "Arms and Armour of the Renaissance Joust" (Royal Armouries Museum, 2021, p.43) - There were excellent English armourers, particularly in London, but they were artistically and technologically working in the styles of his father and grandfather. As a young king, Henry was fashion-conscious and Continentally-oriented, and he also looked up to Emperor Maximilian I (who was thirty-two years older) as a mentor and role model (plus they had a common enemy in France). Fine armours were often given as diplomatic gifts, and the excellent-quality but conservative English armours would have been ill-suited for gift-giving, plus Henry did not have personal access to the very latest styles and techniques. Apparently Henry hired Milanese armourers first, but was not satisfied with their work, so he replaced them with Flemish and German armourers, whose products suited him better.
Thanks for the comprehensive answer, Ray! Interesting (and not what I would have thought!)
Also South German and Austrian armorer from 1480 onward could produce tempered, medium carbon steel armor. The Italian was previously the best armorer in the 15th century in Europe until the Germans/Austrians caught up and surpass them. England only managed to make tempered, medium carbon steel armor because of the imported German armorers and much later in the mid 16th century. The rest of Europe (Spain, France, Poland, Flanders, North Germany couldn't produce steel armor and used iron or low carbon steel.
This was from "The Knight and the Blast Furnace".
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Italian fashion is a thing of historic poportions, didn't now that Gucci went back to medieval times building armour :)
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