Did one run last night, and was lucky to have Hellbornes early in the waves. I forgot to put back a point to the decompose vulnerability upgrade after some experiments, so in this run I missed quite some damage from vulnerable. I think for the the Hordes, a mixed thorns build would be better than the Golem focused version that I am experimenting with. Please refer to this link for my S5 thorns builds maxroll.gg/d4/planner/b230r01s
@@Snitzel12345 I am using stickers for more thorns. Golem A for corpses, reaper A for CDR. Also decompose is used for essence generation to offset Great Feast essence drain.
@@sinitarpku Ah ok thanks, your GigaTanky version in the planner doesn't have it equipped is why I asked. Love your videos and thank you for posting updates!
Dude, I haven't even optimized my glyphs or gear yet and this build CRUSHES. Been driving myself effing bonkers trying to piece together a viable minion build. Did a Razorplate minion build last season and this one is infinitely better. Well done, sir. You earned my sub.
@@serpentvenomous Glad you liked it! my gear and master working are still not perfect, yet the golem is already doing 200-300m per normal proc, and 500-800m when the Razorplate effect triggers. Also the survivability is superb, most of the time I can just sit in the middle of the packs and chill.
Yo man, was thinking of building this build, seems very fun and cool, i see you play on hardcore, is there something that can be changed in this build for players on softcore? More damage than survivability or its not that much really in this case?
@@mahoragaaaa for me it is quite helpful to reduce golem cooldowns to 4-6 sec. If you use a Shako and crit twice on the CDR, then one golem CDR temper can get it to about 6 sec cooldown.
@@mahoragaaaa This needs to be calculated case by case. For example, if you have 1500 int and 40000 thorns without that item, adding a maxrolled non GA int (131 int at mw 12/12, no crit) gives you about (1+(1500+131)/800) / (1+1500/800) - 1 = 5.7% x damage increase. On the other hand, adding 1364 thorns (maxrolled non GA 12/12 MW no crit on gloves) gives you 1364/40000 = 3.4% x damage increase. On a shied it is 2045/40000 = 5.1%. You also get all res from int, making hitting the cap easier.
@@looloolingmong651 Yeah, I hate it when many things just don't behave the way they describe it. Also Mendeln, supposedly the minion unique ring, does not work (the mastery ranks give no damage buff to golem and mages).
Did one run last night, and was lucky to have Hellbornes early in the waves. I forgot to put back a point to the decompose vulnerability upgrade after some experiments, so in this run I missed quite some damage from vulnerable.
I think for the the Hordes, a mixed thorns build would be better than the Golem focused version that I am experimenting with.
Please refer to this link for my S5 thorns builds
maxroll.gg/d4/planner/b230r01s
Why use decompose without sticker-thought? you could swap to the bone golem upgrade that gives vulnerable if that's the only reason
@@Snitzel12345 I am using stickers for more thorns. Golem A for corpses, reaper A for CDR. Also decompose is used for essence generation to offset Great Feast essence drain.
@@sinitarpku Ah ok thanks, your GigaTanky version in the planner doesn't have it equipped is why I asked. Love your videos and thank you for posting updates!
@@Snitzel12345 got it. The Gigatanky version uses decompose for essence generation, vulnerability, and also to trigger the Might aspect.
Thank you for the build, please explain why not go for 100% minion attack speed.
Dude, I haven't even optimized my glyphs or gear yet and this build CRUSHES. Been driving myself effing bonkers trying to piece together a viable minion build. Did a Razorplate minion build last season and this one is infinitely better. Well done, sir. You earned my sub.
@@serpentvenomous Glad you liked it! my gear and master working are still not perfect, yet the golem is already doing 200-300m per normal proc, and 500-800m when the Razorplate effect triggers. Also the survivability is superb, most of the time I can just sit in the middle of the packs and chill.
Привет, не могли бы вы скинуть свой вариант билда с бритвенной броней? Я просто не могу понять, почему его нет на maxroll
Yo man, was thinking of building this build, seems very fun and cool, i see you play on hardcore, is there something that can be changed in this build for players on softcore? More damage than survivability or its not that much really in this case?
In SC you can use AoTD to get another 100%x (or 150% x on amulet)damage
@@sinitarpku Do we want 2x times on both rings from tempering, Golem Active Cooldown? To spam the taunt
@@mahoragaaaa for me it is quite helpful to reduce golem cooldowns to 4-6 sec. If you use a Shako and crit twice on the CDR, then one golem CDR temper can get it to about 6 sec cooldown.
@@sinitarpku Thorns over inteligence on items? For example shield gloves
@@mahoragaaaa This needs to be calculated case by case. For example, if you have 1500 int and 40000 thorns without that item, adding a maxrolled non GA int (131 int at mw 12/12, no crit) gives you about (1+(1500+131)/800) / (1+1500/800) - 1 = 5.7% x damage increase. On the other hand, adding 1364 thorns (maxrolled non GA 12/12 MW no crit on gloves) gives you 1364/40000 = 3.4% x damage increase. On a shied it is 2045/40000 = 5.1%.
You also get all res from int, making hitting the cap easier.
you know, i been thinking, if we can fix the CDR issue, Skirmers#1 is good isn't it ? 30% more damage and extra body
@@looloolingmong651 I tested it last patch, the 30% does not work for thorn procs.
@@sinitarpku i swear it, necro is the buggiest class we got in this game. Shits never behave to what we expect
@@looloolingmong651 Yeah, I hate it when many things just don't behave the way they describe it. Also Mendeln, supposedly the minion unique ring, does not work (the mastery ranks give no damage buff to golem and mages).