Why Hendrix & Van Halen’s Improv Magic Matters More Than Ever in Today’s Music

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  • @Akaakaaka-ep9xh
    @Akaakaaka-ep9xh 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I just saw Kenny Wayne Sheppard playing on the Hendrix Tour...he took me back several decades to old school jamming and improv. Loud and proud, made me smile. KWS definitely channeled Jimi and brought the magic back!

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love that!

  • @Robert-v4b9w
    @Robert-v4b9w 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Great video Brad ! ! !

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you!

  • @mako-g90
    @mako-g90 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Frank Zappa was a master of improvisation, I was fortunate enough to see him twice in the 80's, and the shows were completely different and completely great. I wholeheartedly agree with you on personalizing performances, it adds excitement and humanizes the show.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Man you were so lucky to witness that

    • @mako-g90
      @mako-g90 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm 66 and saw a lot of good shows back then, just found your channel a couple weeks ago and enjoy your insights and experiences.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mako-g90 Thank you so much. So glad to have you here.

    • @slowfinger2
      @slowfinger2 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For sure! I saw him in Toronto (late 70's) and he didn't pick up his guitar once, until the encore. Very disappointing. He had this hot-shot young guitarist ripping everyone's heads off. I made note to find out who that was. Turned out it was Steve Vai on his first tour with Zappa. The both of them traded licks for 20 minutes in the encore. Glorious stuff.

  • @ProbablyTooLoud
    @ProbablyTooLoud 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Good topic. Improvising is where I’ve discovered some cool material. Wash, rinse, repeat and have fun.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It is a very important element to the process.

  • @PaulLoughrin
    @PaulLoughrin 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great video, Brad! Yea, when I see a band in concert, it's nice to hear and see the musicians playing the songs a little differently.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It makes the performance more special

  • @jerryhatrick5860
    @jerryhatrick5860 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Awesome analogies.. None of my days ever go as planned. But they always go as they should.
    Everything is always as it should be.
    My brother tought me when I was a teen just starting out.. What makes you a good musician is covering up your mistake.. Or double it and make it jazz.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Right on, bro!

  • @larryzaks2838
    @larryzaks2838 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I heard Jimi Hendrix 3 times. The first time was the early show on May 10,1968 at the Fillmore East with Sly and the Family Stone. I went with a friend from the dorm at Columbia where I was a freshman. There were two shows, an early show that advertised Hendrix and Sly who were actually friends I learned a long time later. Sly had a big hit record Dance to the Music at the time.
    We sat in the balcony. I didn’t know there was a late show or would have gone to that one. Tickets were 3 dollars. I felt like the oldest person in the place at the ripe old age of 18. The audience was probably from New Jersey, very young teenagers we called teeny boppers.
    It was impossible to talk to anyone when Sly played. The music was incredibly loud. Unless you were there you wouldn’t believe it. There is a recording of the 2nd show
    with the wrong photo with no holes, but Hendrix does say his amps needed to be fixed.
    In the first show, those rotten bastard teenagers screamed for Hendrix when Sly played. “We want Hendrix! We want Hendrix!” It was sickening. Here is Sly and the Family Stone on Ed Sullivan in 1968 who I heard again at Woodstock along with Hendrix and a lot of other bands.
    th-cam.com/video/9sQbY1n02bA/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=DreamAuthorityMusic
    There was a classical guitarist who played between Sly and Hendrix. He got booed terribly and didn’t last long. I did learn to play classical guitar a few years later. The other day I asked myself why would anybody play before an audience that had booed Sly. I don't know. He must have been crazy. No classical guitarist of the caliber of Segovia or Julian Bream would have gone on, but this guy did. Why? Did he owe Bill Graham the owner a favor?
    I never met him and can’t ask. Then Hendrix went on. The volume was deafening. When Hendrix played the speakers buzzed from holes in them between songs. I had the record Are You Experienced but never saw him play guitar. I went into shock with the tricks he did - playing with his teeth, behind his neck, between his legs. I couldn’t believe it.
    At one point, I could swear he played some of 3rd Stone from the Sun, th-cam.com/video/Zts332Y-nyg/w-d-xo.html which I thought was impossible since I believed it had to be done in the studio. There’s an interview in the 1975 edition of Guitar Player Magazine where guitarist Mike Bloomfield says that he heard Hendrix played live every sound he got on record. So he probably did play that song. I left the concert in complete shock. It was one of the greatest concerts I ever heard. The only two groups in the 1960’s I didn’t hear that I wanted to were the Doors and the Cream. So I can’t complain.
    There was a second set that I would have loved to have gone to that started at 11:30 with Sly. Did the classical guitarist play? I don't know. th-cam.com/video/EJJBkyG_0Q8/w-d-xo.html
    Read the comment from @yazidmanou9371 from that show which I can't believe
    This was the day where Jimi dedicated "Foxy Lady" to the Blues Generation. For years no one knew what he meant exactly !
    I learnt in 1999 that this quote was in fact a tribute to the band of my New Jersey friend Sal Bernardi (who later played guitar for Rickie Lee Jones, he lives in Paris for years now). Few days before the show, Sal and his young friends got to have Jimi on the phone in his hotel and asked him a dedication during his next show. To their absolute amazement, he did it and I sent the proof (booteg tape) to Sal 30 years later !!! You can hear the dedication at 9.03
    I thought this was a show where somebody in the crowd yelled out “Are you better than Clapton?” and Hendix immediately retorted “Are you better than my girl friend.” It might be on here. At 9:06 Hendrix says Blues Generation. At 4:32 Hendrix says he hasn't had time to get his amplifiers fixed. There is a comment from @ligger2 that there was a photographer in front somewhere. It's not in the photo. So either the commenter lied, or there was a photo and it got taken down and replaced. I don't know.
    I next heard Hendrix at Woolsley Hall on the Yale University campus on November 17, 1968
    www.jimihendrix.com/encyclopedia-item/november-17-1968-the-experience-perform-at-yale-universitys-woolsey-hall-in-new-haven-connecticut/
    Someone from the crowd yelled out when Hendrix was tuning up. "Hendrix stop fuckin around." He immediately replied, "I'll play that next." I was staying with my cousin who was in grad school. A friend from high school was there. Neither went. It was maybe a ten minute walk from their dorms at most. I went cause I loved Hendrix. It was a much smaller venue than the Fillmore East. After I left, I couldn’t hear the person talking next to me.
    Woodstock was a whole other scene. Most everyone had left and I’d guess there were about 10,000 people in the audience of the 400,000 or so that had attended. I got as close to the stage as possible probably 15 feet away. There was a wall in front of it. Hendrix played probably around 8AM. I don’t remember much of the concert, but I didn’t think he played very well. I have the whole concert on CD (except for Larry Lee singing Mastermind that was left off,) and it sounds a lot better now than what I remember hearing. I later learned he was supposed to go on at midnight and was up all night. Considering that fact, it was amazing he could play at all.
    I was walking quite far from the stage when he played The Star Spangled Banner. th-cam.com/video/sjzZh6-h9fM/w-d-xo.html I thought, “What the fuck is this shit?” I didn’t like it. Now, I think it captures the spirit of an insane America at war in Vietnam. I had protested the war a number of times and was lucky not to have been killed by the cops or the National Guard.
    It is now 56 years later. I can’t believe I lived this long or that I heard Hendrix play 3 times, but I did. Jimi Hendrix is number one on almost every poll of rock guitarists I have seen. He was in a separate universe from every other guitarist. Nobody was even close in my and most everyone else's opinion including Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Pete Townshend of the British guitarist or could begin to play what he did. There were no monitor speakers back then, which means the sound was coming from behind him. There are videos of him tuning up while playing. How he could hear well enough to tune up at that volume seems impossible to me, but he did.
    There is a movie of him at the Miami pop festival on May 18, 1968. He dyed part of his hair blonde. Here he plays Foxy Lady th-cam.com/video/_PVjcIO4MT4/w-d-xo.html. I read that the concert I attended at the Fillmore East was also filmed. Either the film was thrown out or is in a box somewhere. I don’t expect it to turn up in my lifetime but if it does I’d pay a lot of money to watch it. I was blessed to have heard him play and still listen to him almost every day.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      WOW Incredible postQ. Love it! What an "Experience" pun intended.

  • @deeafo
    @deeafo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great chat man

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for watching!

  • @johndenson3107
    @johndenson3107 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    👍

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks

  • @Nik.No.K
    @Nik.No.K 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It’s a good point, all concerts nowadays are on a click track and the whole show is heavily planned/choreographed. There’s something very exciting about going to a show and not knowing exactly what you’re going to get. It’s not really a true live experience nowadays, just a reproduction of the record. All I can say is that I will continue to keep real music alive. Making stuff with no click tracks or DAW and trying to be organic with the live performances. I’ll try at least…

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Man I salute you for that!

  • @LeslieFlowerChildOfGod
    @LeslieFlowerChildOfGod 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’ve learned some bands or artists must be seen live because you get so much more than what’s on their album/CD. Wishing I saw more classic artists in the 90’s when concerts were more affordable.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Absolutely!👍🏻

  • @lindaellen808
    @lindaellen808 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are correct ,with so much tech, now.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Too much, it’s true.

  • @alexdoyleguitar
    @alexdoyleguitar 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I teach for a living and this is really missed on by many students. They are learning difficult songs earlier than ever from creativity and improv....it's a dying art

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hate to hear that.

  • @brotherhoodoflightshowcurr3318
    @brotherhoodoflightshowcurr3318 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the mention. Right now I am working on creating a lot of new material for my upcoming tour with the Alman Betts Family Revival tour starting November 30 ending December 21.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hope you have a great tour. Dude you rock!!!

  • @jerryhatrick5860
    @jerryhatrick5860 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Certain songs however are so iconic.. Imo should be done as they were recorded. And to do so is pretty difficult..
    Rush, Yes,Genesis, for example.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree with that 100 percent.....

  • @CawKee
    @CawKee 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Wind Cries Mary" is sublime because it came together "in the moment". Was example of a piece of music that benefited from it's spontaneity rather than weeks of turd polishing

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh ya!

  • @CawKee
    @CawKee 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Replaying a solo note for note is like your partner asking to be kissed like the first kiss, never the same.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It never is

  • @slowfinger2
    @slowfinger2 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another beautiful day. Appreciate your thoughts today Brad. Helped me expand the world around my definitions. Is it a Betty Crocker cake in a box, or a scratch cake? Zappa's line, "is that a real Mexican poncho, or a Sears poncho." In a way, I think you were saying that the Betty Crocker can be modified, added to, and/or made into something else. Creativity expands our options, and vise versa. LOL. I'm not sure if any of the above makes sense on this topic.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Makes sense to me.

  • @darandeyoe
    @darandeyoe 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In the cover and tribute band world, I gig every weekend. All over southern California, Nevada and Arizona. People will judge your solos for accuracy. I am guilty too, watching other guitar players. I would never say anything too them. But there are few guitar players that are good enough to improvise and do it tastefully. They are truly amazing to watch. I'm not. So I just try to reproduce what was on the original recording as accurately as I can. With a few improvs here and there.
    Thanks for the video, great discussions.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you and Salute!

  • @flazjsg
    @flazjsg 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Michael Schenker worked on "Rock Bottom" ideas live for years, culminating with the jaw-dropping version heard on "Strangers In The Night."

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There ya go

  • @19Willy67
    @19Willy67 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Paul Gilbert is incredible with Improv. Live and especially medleys. Great topic and explanation. On a different topic I would love your opinion on some of the country guitar slingers like Jeff Dayton, Reggie Young and Steve Wariner.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Those guys are legends…..

  • @DRSTARR-333
    @DRSTARR-333 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good for you Brad 🎶 I always believed musicians should be able to improv’-e their parts - that’s what jamming live is all about -
    Expanding on and extending your solos giving them the meat and potatoes from the record and then throw in some extra solo sauce and spice it up with some real added flavor to keep the live shows exciting!! Music shouldn’t be so meticulously perfect and over calculated nor ever be stifling! Especially in rock ‘n’ roll ! Jazz cats have even more space to experiment with free stylin’ they kind of got it made in that sense - That being said on the other side of the music spectrum, I totally get a conductors’ orchestra not having the liberty on a classically structured piece although they have their own individual stylistic nuances that makes it not such a mundane same old same old performance.
    How else can you truly grow and be excited about getting up on stage every night?
    I used to do a lot of improv when I’d forget the words so I’d use gibberish- or ruff scat is how I’d come up with melodies then words and phrases materialize into a song! The creative process it’s whimsical and magical sometimes beautiful & sometimes it’s crap haha but having the creative freedom to try I believe is key👍

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Right on bro!

  • @giblespaul2001
    @giblespaul2001 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Okay, I suck at improv. DUDE I can’t get out of my pentatonic box.👏

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know that's not true....

  • @Manuel-Burnett
    @Manuel-Burnett 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    BadBrad, What band is playing on your video intro?! Everything about it screams David Grissom - the phrasing, the vibrato and those few bendy notes at the end while fading out...
    Going to local jam sessions played and integral role in my development as a guitarist and as a musician in general. Because of the informal nature of jam sessions, I liked that I could take more chances and experiment with ideas that I normally wouldn't try in situations where I was hired to "play it the same way, every day". Another thing is that switching to other instruments like bass or drums at the jam expanded my understanding of each member's role in the band, while also expanding my musical vocabulary and understanding of how all the instruments link together and work together in the mix.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Right on! I think you've got it. That track is from a band I had in Nashville. That's me on Guitar.

    • @Manuel-Burnett
      @Manuel-Burnett 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That’s my kind of music! Would love to hear more music like that!

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Manuel-Burnett Right on!

  • @CawKee
    @CawKee 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    When I first heard Hendrix it changed my perception of what was possible, up to that point people played instruments in a conventional, standardised way and here was a guy painting with sound

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      So true!!!!

    • @lancejasper7708
      @lancejasper7708 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Awesome way to put it Painting with sound...hearing the colors and laying it down raw and wild unleashed charisma

    • @flazjsg
      @flazjsg 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Great point! In every version of say, "Little Wing" you will hear him play something he never played before. Led Zep was the same.

    • @CawKee
      @CawKee 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @flazjsg Hendrix was a great lyric writer, the poetry of "Castles Made Of Sand" transports you out of yourself, few songwriters can do that with their best song, Jimi had a whole bag of songs that were of that standard. A lot of Jimi's songs were purposely "unfinished", the song is there but he always left space in the song to take it somewhere else if the mood suited him. Brad was right when he said the modern trend is to be a slave to the clicktrack, even live.

  • @jimhankins3865
    @jimhankins3865 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think it was Michael Wilton that stated that Queensryche improvised very little and that all the solos were completly worked out and yes I can kinda hear that . Might have to do with why they never grabbed me much after Queen of the Riech. (Might actually be a little impov on that guitar solo?)

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not sure.

  • @OSXMan
    @OSXMan 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A couple thoughts… I’ve seen the Black Crowes and Blues Traveler several times each. Two jammy bands. I’ve seen magical performances from both as well as a couple of duds. It’s so hard to get to that magical place. I don’t know how often it happens. But, I bet it happens a lot less these days. I doubt that playing “snapped to grid” or with backing tracks leaves much room for magic. What a shame.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You’re right, that magical place is a rare gem

  • @jerryhatrick5860
    @jerryhatrick5860 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Some music has to be played right..
    The there's songs I play in the likes of and mosty right..
    Then there's songs I play whatever I want.
    I refuse to play everything note for note leads.
    But a song like Jessica has to be done right most of the song due to the two guitar harmony .

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh ya!

  • @DanielCastillo-cn3pp
    @DanielCastillo-cn3pp 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Frank Zappa, John Coltrane great improvisers..

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh ya!

  • @Pieguy73
    @Pieguy73 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stevie ray vaughn needs more cred. He had more albums out, his live stuff is just phenominal. That guy was in a classs of his own also. Nobody since him. Nobody. Theres alot of great guitarist out there. Just not an srv, or jimi. Just fyi hendrix is from renton. Hes buried in renton. Maybe youve been to his gravesite? Gravesite what a great name for a deathmetal band.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      SRV is great.

  • @LemonFacebluesguitar
    @LemonFacebluesguitar 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Have never ever heard another guitarist say hes been told to play it just like the recording most musicians try tobsteer clear from the recording because its like bieng new and fresh so maybe you was playing for scaredycsts

  • @bodragon4582
    @bodragon4582 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Smokin Joe Bonamasso Vs Eric Gales guitar duel is some good improv, or the end of any G3 show, Good improv is an amazing experience, but bad improv is just some wankster noodling and thats the worst.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hear you there