I have a box set of Artie Shaw - great clarinetist in the swing era, certainly one of the very best. He had a great quote in the liner notes, "Benny Goodman was a better clarinetist than me, but I was a better musician." That's worth talking about. A lot of guys diss Jimmy Page, but he did so much as a composer in the rock genre, so much that nearly every rock band in the 1970s had to come up with their own "Stairway." The new live concert release "Inner City Blues" is fantastic, by the way. Clapton with Cream got the power trio going - Sabbath was basically a Cream knock off. Hendrix was another great composer as well as player. All these guys are top-notch. Van Halen and Rhoades took guitar to new places in the late-1970s-early 1980s. Great discussion. If you were doing a session and you didn't know what kind of music you'd be recording, who would you pick? In the 1970s, Roy Buchanan or Danny Gatton could kill it on rock, blues, country, jazz or funk. Only a few other guys were that versatile and not many were that good. Larry Carlton, Tommy Tedesco and a few others might be in the discussion, but I give the nod to Roy and Danny - they were road warriors.
To extend that thought - Who is the "Greatest Rock n Roll Band " in the world? According to Mick and Keith - any band on any given night. There are moments and minutes of complete transcendence. Sublime and unforgettable. Peace.
❤ my mom and her brother were good friends (as teenagers to death) with a guy named Nokie Edwards. That prince of a man and prodigy. We loved him so much. He once came to my gig with my mom and sat in, it was such an honor. My keyboard player and I talked about that until he died saying in first thing he did was tune our guitar players guitar, we were like, yes! I got a Don Rich story too.
@ we knew them all. That was a pretty special time for Tacoma. Don’s mom, Josie Wilson, was way ahead of her time , getting them promoted, with their record label. We were so proud of them.
I'm a guitarist & this is a question that makes me roll my eye's back in my head. When you reach the level of musicianship that our hero's achieved it's simply a matter of preference. One of the thing's that I feel is different about the older guitar gods from the modern shredders is that the old guys played from their heart while the newer players play from their head. I'm not knocking them, but it's a different world for the modern players. The old guys had to struggle with gear that wasn't built to do the things they wanted to do & they had to deal with poverty & fear of breaking a string because they couldn't afford to replace it. They also had to drive around in a beat van & play in dive bars for years before they made it. It was these struggles that developed their characters & shaped their music. The modern players although they may be technically better, they are missing the battle scars that are crucial to creating soulful art. Having said all of that, "what in the hell do I know? We in the west tend to only think of western music, but there is a music scene in Japan that is just mind blowing tons of phenomenal musicians. If you would've asked me just a few years ago who my favorite band of all time was I would've never thought in a million years that it would be this modern all female band from Japan called Nemophila, but here we are. They have chops & soul & even though I don't understand most of the lyrics, it doesn't matter because the music does the talking.
A greatest list would be something that may be half the guitarists would know everybody. It would be a weird list like Jim Hall, Django Reinhart, Ed VH, Hank Garland, John McLaughlin, Steve Lukather, Jeff Beck, Hendrix, Andres Segovia, Jan Akkerman, Holdsworth and on
Hey Brad. I was about 1/2 way thru a Beato interview with Rick Wakeman when yours popped up and I came on over here. You might enjoy it. The dudes memory is quite remarkable..
Vinnie is a legend and has a great podcast going. Guitarists Shawn Lane was an Alien, and Zappa too is underrated (listen to his solos albums series, like 'Shut up and play some guitar', Allan Holdsworth too was a phenomenon, so many good guitarists! And there are the anti-heros like Snakefinger too. It's a bit like 'who's the faster cow-boy'? Well there's always someone faster, and there are so many different styles ! Does it really matters? Take care
Great video Brad! So many for sure. I'm not a guitarist, so they are ALL great to me haha. But I noticed, when ever watching Eddie Van Halen, Randy Rhoads, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughn and Carlos Santana, they NEVER mess up or are ever sloppy. Oh, David Gilmour is another. If they ever messed up, I never noticed at all haha! Roy Clark was amazing too!
For me the "Greatest" guitarists of all time are those that changed the instrument in a major way and did the unthinkable. Think Chuck Berry, Hendrix, EVH and Jeff Beck. These are guitar revolutionaries.
❤ good video Brad. And yes, this is very subjective to so many applications of percussion that matter to both the song, and to what we feel. I must say at one sweet time I had Dennis Bradford as my drummer. him and Danny Wilson were the bottom end for Jeff Lorber, all that wizard island masterpiece and more.
❤ here’s a fun fact, when I joined up with my music partner, I came from a country background, and he was jazz and really really good at it. We both had mass appreciation and love and respect for good music. It was wonderful I could never unlearn the things that I’ve been exposed to in music. Our Setlist was always just wildly diverse, and we changed our members sometimes added, and one girl that worked with us said we were the funnest band because we let everybody choose their own material. I thought that was an imperative. that really worked because people really appreciated that diversity. We went from heartaches by the number to impressions to rebel yell to respect and back again.❤ Thanks for letting me share Brad.
@ Brad, thank you so much. You're such a good person and a fantastic musician. I wish you and your family always the very best and I'm glad to be connected.❤️
Damn Brad, I’m stoned right now lovin’ the conversation and talking to my phone to you like I’ve lost my mind. But I’m having a blast of a guilty pleasure in the topic! Mainly because one could make a cool game of this comparison summit mount for the mighty Chalice of Greatness!! The Steve Howe versus Jimmy Page is a good one!!! Toe to toe!!! It’s Roundabout against Heartbreaker!!!! Ding 🛎️ fight!! Hahahaha 😎
Just watching this now. Good one, Brad. As for me, I'm a hard rock and metal rock singer and fan. So, my choice would be EVH. Yea, Hendrix was great, but I gotta go with EVH. Peace!
Steve Stevens invented how to tweak circuit resistors on ray guns to play guitar in tandem with the behaviour of each respective electronics plus how to perfect it with effects. He opened new horizons beyond Star Trek where no man had gone before or since!
Wes Montgomery, Hank Garland, Joe Pass, George Benson, Danny Gatton, Leon Rhodes...there's way too many great players. Probably best to have a "most influential" LIST.
@@badbrad Hi Brad, ultimately, I think your whole video really says this while also saying that people often make big, big judgements without really knowing all that much about what's out there/what been done. The portion at the end on songs/songwriting is really the cherry on top. There's no doubt Van Halen were just the right band, with the right songs, at the right time for "hard rock." Oh yeah, their guitarist/riff meister completely redefined "the game," too. Great, great video. So many people, and this doesnt make them bad, they just don't know, they don't have "Big ears," they can't "hear it," so much music just goes right by them. You are clearly a "musical omnivore," a guy who devours all kinds of music and can dig it because you can "hear it." I remember being a rocker and then hearing The Mahavishnu Orchestra at about age 18 and going, "Holy f#$%ing sh#t." This began my voyage into a shit load of other music. But for a lot of people, they just can't do it for whatever mysterious reason. We're the lucky one b/c it's never boring!
98% Think what you said is perfect. The reality however, is, in the same mindset. Those who do not put popularity as their motive, and respect the art. Are just as relevant while there might be fewer fans, and not as popular because their songs don't resonate with the masses. Does not make them any less relevant. Just not as popular. And in some cases. More respected by those who do know. Great topic , Brad. After all. The beauty is we are all moved by something different! And "THE BEST" is nothing more than an opinion.
I know who my GOAT guitarist is, EVH. With that being said it’s more of a personal choice, because when you get to that level of greatness and ingenuity there are so many.
There’s great guitar players in every genre. There’s country, jazz and classical guitar players that can blow metal dudes out the door. The greatest argument is dumb, this is music, not sports.
Chet Atkins, per my Father. He was on all the radio and TV shows. He also ran a record label. I think he opened a lot of doors. You can still sit with him on the bench in Nashville and get advice on your music career.
As for Randy Rhoads, although so many people equate him with Marshall amps, his early sound (especially during his Quiet Riot days) came down to Ampeg amps with Altec speakers.
I caught 2 Sturgill shows in St Louis and I’m still not sure I can put into words what I saw . One thing for sure , we will be hearing about a dude named Laur Joemets for a long time .
You nailed it again👏!! Would Charlie watts sound good in Zeppelin? Vice versa? Bonham in the Stones? Would be completely different...could do that all day.
Best of all time is so subjective but I’m lucky that the 2 that were the most influential to me happen to be 2 of the greatest of all time, although I don’t care what others think. Criss Oliva and George Lynch.
as a side remark, nobody really wrote "with" Ozzy. First of all, initially before the brand hijack, it was The Blizzard of Ozz band, put together by Bob Daisley and Ozzy, and Bob red or green lighted the potential band members together with Ozzy. Second point is the common denominator that they all wrote _with Bob_ who was the key to unlock everyone's brilliance at every stage of the writing process, including collaboratively figuring out best progressions and rhythms for guitar and bass and the phrazing of the lyrics he wrote. Because he wrote s Bob is the central person who solidified Ozzy's career even when he was chronically in a completely incapable state and absent. Heck, even in the beginning Lee would be creating/singing melodies for new songs while Ozzy was clocked out, so even though Ozzy could have some added input, he could even have virtually zero input in writing even though he was credited. It truly was a shame on the Osbourne family that they didn't express appreciation and gratitude to Bob at the RNRHOF. Jake and Lee aswell. So technically it would be "writing with The Blizzard of Ozz" band and later "writing with Bob for Sharozzy Inc.".
Three (or 4) great new young players: Ichika Nito, John Nathan Cordy, Danny Yau , oh Max Ostro, etc, etc. Probably the best ones, we'll never hear from them! Guthrie Govan is a great contemporary one too!
I'm old enough to remember guys like Glen Campbell and Roy Clark, both wizards. I've never really enjoyed choosing who's best. There are so many greats, who do what they do. I mean of course there's obvious choices but there's just too many great players and styles. It's all good!
Any comparison is intriguing but I'm not sure it's quantifiable. Could Eddy or Randy play a Stevie Ray Vaughan song convincingly? I'm not convinced. When I heard rock gods play blues, it's always somehow, lacking. I love Sach.. but his blues is not what I consider top notch. As for the rolling stones lists, completely agree. How can Dave Manichetti never show up? Great licks, great feel, melodic, jazzy and he sings? What does a guy need to do? Nicely presented, thanks for sharing.
HEY BRAD , When someone would ask Me something like that , IF YOU WANT TO PUT SOMEONE IN THE CATEGORY OF GREATEST , FOR ME It would not be Just GREAT PLAYING , Example Greatest Drummer or Guitarist would NOT be someone who Just Could Play but who Made that Guitar or Drums more Famous Or CONTRIBUTED something to or for That Instrument. BUDDY RICH , Was the Only Celebrity Great Drummer who was at Gene Krupas Funeral , That ought to tell you something about what he thought about Him. EXAMPLE Drummer , GENE KRUPA Varied techniques: He incorporated press rolls, BRUSH WORK, and interactive playing with soloist. Dynamics: Krupa could play with both power and subtlety, adapting his style to different musical contexts. First to record with a bass drum: He was one of the first drummers to record with a bass drum, despite initial resistance from recording engineers. Standardizing cymbal terminology: Krupa is credited with standardizing cymbal terms such as Crash, Ride, Splash, Pang, and Swish in collaboration with Avedis Zildjian Tom-Tom Tuning: Krupa played a crucial role in the development of tom-toms that were tunable on both sides. This innovation allowed for greater tonal control and versatility in drum sounds Drum kit configuration: He helped streamline the drum kit, moving away from extraneous elements like temple blocks and Chinese tom-toms, focusing on a more manageable setup with bass drum, two or three toms, snare drum, and a few cymbals , also Contributed to bringing forward the More Use of the HIGH HAT Cymbal. HE BROUGHT THE DRUMMING TO THE FOREFRONT with his Great Playing , and Brought In The DRUM SOLO In BANDS , STILL used to this Day. SHOWMANSHIP: KRUPA was the First Drummer to Twirl The Drum Sticks in His Fingers , AND STILL DONE TODAY LOL , His visual appeal and energetic performances elevated the role of the drummer from mere timekeeper to FRONT LINE PERFORMER. Dynamics: Krupa could play with both power and subtlety, adapting his style to different musical contexts Inspiration: His playing inspired millions to become drummers. AND STILL does to this Day. His technical innovations, showmanship, and musical versatility continue to be studied and admired by drummers today. Neil Peart was a close follower of Krupa , Studied him Big Time So when someone says GREATEST to put someone in that Category. FOR ME its Not Only That They were Great Players, BUT someone that was so advanced AND Changes to even IMPROVE their Instrument. That They Were way ahead of There Time. So far No one Has Changed the Set Up Krupa made to the Drum Set even after all Theses Years , And Still Twirling There Drum Sticks lol , AND YES BOY O BOY he was a Great Drummer. ,, CHICAGO LOU
to me its who affects me the most jimi live, songs like machine gun from band of gypsys and hear my train comin from Berkeley just blow me away I can play some of it but not alot and many more songs, also robin trower live with amazing solos, I like van halen his guitar playing impresses me but doesn't touch me at all same with many of these newer guys
Stevie Ray did it all. Glen Campbell too. I got you...Keith Richards did it all. How many guys can come up with something so simple but will be listened to 100yrs from now.....Satisfaction?
Greatest can have several meanings. There are several great players. No one can say anyone is the single greatest. If anyone tries to name one there are several thousands of people ready to disagree. Just appreciate all the greatness out there and ignore these rankings
There is one that can do anything by anyone you mentioned. He has also played in front of 10s of thousand of people per night (with Deep Purple). It's Steve Morse. He can literally do it ALL.
You aced the answer, there is no greatest. It’s all personal best. My favorite is and always ,Edward Van Halen, along with Lynch and Vai. Best and favorite modern one to me is Nita Strauss. But many many more great guitarists thru time.
I think based on Technical skill its Lenny Breau. A finger style Jazz guitarist from the 1950s to the 1980s. Based on Influence and innovation I think its jimi hendrix. My personal Goat is mr John Dawson Winter III. Think hes the most passionate player ever
I saw a rolling stone "100 greatest guitarists" of all time list about 10 years ago and it included Joan Jett...all you need to know is she shouldn't be in the list of 1,000,000th guitarists ever...like you said, what kind of guitarist are we talking about here?
I couldn’t pick a GOAT… but I have debated this for at least 20 years. If you throw away chops and technical aspects and you just go by how they influenced guitar playing and their body of work, I think it comes down to three people. Hendrix, SRV, and Jimmy Page.
@ SRV always admitted to being influenced by Hendrix and Albert King, and his big brother. But somehow SRV found the formula to get that sound to every blue collar, before the turn of the century American. David Bowie certainly saw something in him.
It’s all subjective. Greats in every genre, you just have to find out who they are. Country, rockabilly, psychobilly, instrumental, on and on. Then there are the session legends. Same with drummers. I agree on some of the so-called greats. But to me, if their chops fit what is going on in the particular song, and/or they have their own recognizable style, that’s good enough for me.
G.O.A.T. lists mean different things to different people. Who I think is great, you might think sucks royally, and vice versa. If it's based on someone who can easily assimilate themselves into various styles of music, my G.O.A.T. drummer would be Terry Bozzio of Missing Persons, Jeff Beck's band and Steve Vai's band. My G.O.A.T. guitarist would be a tie between Al DiMeola and Gary Moore. They can shred through rock and metal runs just as easily as they can play flawless fusion runs.
No Such Thing as a GOAT . So many Guys have SO little Knowledge of anything beyond Zeppilin or Rush . I asked a Kid Who His Top 10 Drummers were ...He said 1 thru 5 Were John Bonham...He's never heard of Billy Cobham ,Bill Bruford , Alphonse Mouzon etc etc
The whole questions of “The greatest “ on any instrument or vocalists is ABSURD. As you point out you cannot compare genres but even within genres it is not a valid question because there it is not a race or a contest and music does not have some exact standard or limit or mark to hit. Its not like say a sprinter who runs the 100 yard dash the fastest ever recorded and then gets called the GREATEST SPRINTER. Music is created and made as an art form not some pissing contest. The magazines are just trying to sell copies and ROLLING STONE isthe worst.
complexity doesnt make a guitarist great in the eyes of the masses, virtuosity still has to be in the confines of great phrases/songs. 99.9% of music lovers would rather listen to EVH/Hendrix over Jason Becker or Al Dimeola.
Really is subjective, my favourite player may not be the g o a t, really is each to their own, in my case Johnny Ramone is the Greatest because of his innovative down picking technique, would there be a James Hetfield if not for Johnny? We’ll never know…
The reason that it's such a great question is that there's really no right answer. The greatest player of all time could be a session player that played on hundreds of records of multiple genres that nobody's generally familiar with. Tony Rice? Paco DeLucia? Chet Atkins? Billy Strings? Wes Montgomery? Joe Pass? There just isn't ONE 😊 The Rolling Stone list is an absolute joke driven by social biases and Woke ideology 😑
Most impressive guitar player I've ever seen is Guthrie Govan. My favorite guitar player might be Alex Lifeson. Who do I think is the most accomplished guitarist or the greatest, most recognized and original with true artistry? Tough one... Jeff Beck is the only name that stands in the light. There are many others circling the campfire but I can't make out their faces. The fact that Rolling Stone forgot that Alan Holdsworth even existed in their top all-time 250 guitar players list, negates their credibility quite significantly, doesn't it? As far as drummers go, if you think someone's the "best", play some of their videos and then watch some videos of Dave Weckyl or Vinnie Colaiuta and you'll probably think twice about how good your new favorite drummer actually is. In my opinion, I think Neil Peart was the most accomplished, recognized, respected drummer with true artistry and originality. He definitely wasn't the "best" drummer ever (see Weckyl/Colaiuta, etc) but he was one of the greatest in scope and influence. His skies were incredibly wide.
I have a vhs drum video called Burning for Buddy. Neil plays on it and is the worst drummer on the video. And I revere Neil but jazz was not his genre.
@@badbrad Now, Steve Smith on the other hand... This is where I really discovered him and how talented he is. You'd never notice much from listening to Journey alone, but Steve is such a power house.
I have a box set of Artie Shaw - great clarinetist in the swing era, certainly one of the very best. He had a great quote in the liner notes, "Benny Goodman was a better clarinetist than me, but I was a better musician." That's worth talking about.
A lot of guys diss Jimmy Page, but he did so much as a composer in the rock genre, so much that nearly every rock band in the 1970s had to come up with their own "Stairway." The new live concert release "Inner City Blues" is fantastic, by the way.
Clapton with Cream got the power trio going - Sabbath was basically a Cream knock off. Hendrix was another great composer as well as player. All these guys are top-notch. Van Halen and Rhoades took guitar to new places in the late-1970s-early 1980s.
Great discussion. If you were doing a session and you didn't know what kind of music you'd be recording, who would you pick? In the 1970s, Roy Buchanan or Danny Gatton could kill it on rock, blues, country, jazz or funk. Only a few other guys were that versatile and not many were that good. Larry Carlton, Tommy Tedesco and a few others might be in the discussion, but I give the nod to Roy and Danny - they were road warriors.
You’ve hit on something really important, you can’t just look at skill, versatility counts for a lot.
Check out Vinnie Colaiuta playing with Jeff Beck ... Live at Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club. Tal Wilkenfeld on bass and Jason Rebello on keys.
I’ve watched that one a lot.
That's a great show!
I love your insights, Brad. Thanks.
I'm a 50 yr old guy that's worked on plumbing for the last 23 yrs..intending to parlay into music business
That’s awesome!
I agree. For me, better 3 notes that pierce my soul, than 300 that only pierce my eardrums.
Yes!
give me Neil Young over yngwie, satriani, vai and all those souless shredders. simple - make it fucking mean something is all I want
Dude, I'll tell ya', seeing Allan Holdsworth was the most mind blowing musical experience of my life!
Man I hear you there
To extend that thought - Who is the "Greatest Rock n Roll Band " in the world?
According to Mick and Keith - any band on any given night.
There are moments and minutes of complete transcendence. Sublime and unforgettable. Peace.
Peace
That is actually a very clever statement. I agree!
❤ my mom and her brother were good friends (as teenagers to death) with a guy named Nokie Edwards. That prince of a man and prodigy. We loved him so much. He once came to my gig with my mom and sat in, it was such an honor. My keyboard player and I talked about that until he died saying in first thing he did was tune our guitar players guitar, we were like, yes! I got a Don Rich story too.
Wow I know of his playing that is awesome!!! The Ventures!!!
@ we knew them all. That was a pretty special time for Tacoma. Don’s mom, Josie Wilson, was way ahead of her time , getting them promoted, with their record label. We were so proud of them.
@@SeeCSeesCC WOW
I'm a guitarist & this is a question that makes me roll my eye's back in my head. When you reach the level of musicianship that our hero's achieved it's simply a matter of preference. One of the thing's that I feel is different about the older guitar gods from the modern shredders is that the old guys played from their heart while the newer players play from their head. I'm not knocking them, but it's a different world for the modern players. The old guys had to struggle with gear that wasn't built to do the things they wanted to do & they had to deal with poverty & fear of breaking a string because they couldn't afford to replace it. They also had to drive around in a beat van & play in dive bars for years before they made it. It was these struggles that developed their characters & shaped their music. The modern players although they may be technically better, they are missing the battle scars that are crucial to creating soulful art. Having said all of that, "what in the hell do I know? We in the west tend to only think of western music, but there is a music scene in Japan that is just mind blowing tons of phenomenal musicians. If you would've asked me just a few years ago who my favorite band of all time was I would've never thought in a million years that it would be this modern all female band from Japan called Nemophila, but here we are. They have chops & soul & even though I don't understand most of the lyrics, it doesn't matter because the music does the talking.
Great post!!!!
A greatest list would be something that may be half the guitarists would know everybody. It would be a weird list like Jim Hall, Django Reinhart, Ed VH, Hank Garland, John McLaughlin, Steve Lukather, Jeff Beck, Hendrix, Andres Segovia, Jan Akkerman, Holdsworth and on
So true
Hey Brad. I was about 1/2 way thru a Beato interview with Rick Wakeman when yours popped up and I came on over here. You might enjoy it. The dudes memory is quite remarkable..
Thanks! I'll check it out.
@@badbrad I only thought of it cuz you mentioned Yes here…😎
The Wakeman interview is fantastic!
Vinnie is a legend and has a great podcast going. Guitarists Shawn Lane was an Alien, and Zappa too is underrated (listen to his solos albums series, like 'Shut up and play some guitar', Allan Holdsworth too was a phenomenon, so many good guitarists! And there are the anti-heros like Snakefinger too. It's a bit like 'who's the faster cow-boy'? Well there's always someone faster, and there are so many different styles ! Does it really matters?
Take care
In the end nothing matters
Great video Brad! So many for sure. I'm not a guitarist, so they are ALL great to me haha. But I noticed, when ever watching Eddie Van Halen, Randy Rhoads, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughn and Carlos Santana, they NEVER mess up or are ever sloppy. Oh, David Gilmour is another. If they ever messed up, I never noticed at all haha! Roy Clark was amazing too!
They were all absolute masters!
@@badbrad Ohhh, I know another great Brad. Terry Kath from Chicago! 😃
For me the "Greatest" guitarists of all time are those that changed the instrument in a major way and did the unthinkable. Think Chuck Berry, Hendrix, EVH and Jeff Beck. These are guitar revolutionaries.
They are indeed....
Add Charlie Christian
Duane Denison.
@@joelhague5515 Facts!
❤ good video Brad. And yes, this is very subjective to so many applications of percussion that matter to both the song, and to what we feel. I must say at one sweet time I had Dennis Bradford as my drummer. him and Danny Wilson were the bottom end for Jeff Lorber, all that wizard island masterpiece and more.
❤ here’s a fun fact, when I joined up with my music partner, I came from a country background, and he was jazz and really really good at it. We both had mass appreciation and love and respect for good music. It was wonderful I could never unlearn the things that I’ve been exposed to in music. Our Setlist was always just wildly diverse, and we changed our members sometimes added, and one girl that worked with us said we were the funnest band because we let everybody choose their own material. I thought that was an imperative. that really worked because people really appreciated that diversity. We went from heartaches by the number to impressions to rebel yell to respect and back again.❤ Thanks for letting me share Brad.
Wow that is awesome. Always great to have you here.
@ Brad, thank you so much. You're such a good person and a fantastic musician. I wish you and your family always the very best and I'm glad to be connected.❤️
@@SeeCSeesCC You are much appreciated here. Thank you.
Damn Brad, I’m stoned right now lovin’ the conversation and talking to my phone to you like I’ve lost my mind.
But I’m having a blast of a guilty pleasure in the topic! Mainly because one could make a cool game of this comparison summit mount for the mighty Chalice of Greatness!!
The Steve Howe versus Jimmy Page is a good one!!! Toe to toe!!! It’s Roundabout against Heartbreaker!!!! Ding 🛎️ fight!! Hahahaha 😎
Ha ha awesome duuuuude
Just watching this now. Good one, Brad. As for me, I'm a hard rock and metal rock singer and fan. So, my choice would be EVH. Yea, Hendrix was great, but I gotta go with EVH. Peace!
I hear ya bro!
rock... Chuck, Clapton, Hendrix, Eddie. these guys changed the way the instrument was played, opened new horizons and influenced the most players.
They did.
Steve Stevens invented how to tweak circuit resistors on ray guns to play guitar in tandem with the behaviour of each respective electronics plus how to perfect it with effects. He opened new horizons beyond Star Trek where no man had gone before or since!
Pre diddled and ready to roll!
Thanks bro!
💯!
The GOAT farm is monstrous .
It is indeed
@@jerryhatrick5860 agreed, so many great players
Ultimately, the whole "greatest" idea is fairly silly. Colaiuta is an incredible musician for sure.
Wes Montgomery, Hank Garland, Joe Pass, George Benson, Danny Gatton, Leon Rhodes...there's way too many great players. Probably best to have a "most influential" LIST.
I agree with ya.
@@badbrad Hi Brad, ultimately, I think your whole video really says this while also saying that people often make big, big judgements without really knowing all that much about what's out there/what been done. The portion at the end on songs/songwriting is really the cherry on top. There's no doubt Van Halen were just the right band, with the right songs, at the right time for "hard rock." Oh yeah, their guitarist/riff meister completely redefined "the game," too.
Great, great video. So many people, and this doesnt make them bad, they just don't know, they don't have "Big ears," they can't "hear it," so much music just goes right by them. You are clearly a "musical omnivore," a guy who devours all kinds of music and can dig it because you can "hear it." I remember being a rocker and then hearing The Mahavishnu Orchestra at about age 18 and going, "Holy f#$%ing sh#t." This began my voyage into a shit load of other music. But for a lot of people, they just can't do it for whatever mysterious reason. We're the lucky one b/c it's never boring!
The word itself is highly problematic to say the least.
98% Think what you said is perfect. The reality however, is, in the same mindset. Those who do not put popularity as their motive, and respect the art. Are just as relevant while there might be fewer fans, and not as popular because their songs don't resonate with the masses. Does not make them any less relevant. Just not as popular. And in some cases. More respected by those who do know. Great topic , Brad. After all. The beauty is we are all moved by something different! And "THE BEST" is nothing more than an opinion.
Very true
I know who my GOAT guitarist is, EVH. With that being said it’s more of a personal choice, because when you get to that level of greatness and ingenuity there are so many.
I hear ya there.
There’s great guitar players in every genre. There’s country, jazz and classical guitar players that can blow metal dudes out the door. The greatest argument is dumb, this is music, not sports.
That’s what I’m saying…
Duuude . I never once pondered baked “what if ozzy had joined Edward, Alex and Michael and duuuude David Lee Roth joined Randy “
Till now 😂😂😂😂😂
Chet Atkins, per my Father. He was on all the radio and TV shows. He also ran a record label. I think he opened a lot of doors. You can still sit with him on the bench in Nashville and get advice on your music career.
He’s a legend.
As for Randy Rhoads, although so many people equate him with Marshall amps, his early sound (especially during his Quiet Riot days) came down to Ampeg amps with Altec speakers.
Ah so that’s what he used….
I caught 2 Sturgill shows in St Louis and I’m still not sure I can put into words what I saw .
One thing for sure , we will be hearing about a dude named Laur Joemets for a long time .
That’s crazy to think that critics didn’t like Van Halen
Rolling stone slammed that band
James Marshall Hendrix... electric guitarist... for his catalog of music... his influence... all by the tragic age of 27...
I agree one of the all time greats but perhaps as an artist and not as an overall guitarist.
Yes Johnny Allen Hendrix indeed!
You nailed it again👏!! Would Charlie watts sound good in Zeppelin? Vice versa? Bonham in the Stones? Would be completely different...could do that all day.
It would be a whole different beast!
I'm a John Bonham guy but I have to go with Neil Peart, his timing seemed so radical but melodic.
He was great but I wouldn't say GOAt because there is no such thing....Could he play with the right feel to be in Earth Wind and Fire....probably not.
@@badbrad I wasn't looking at it that way, it was a trick question.
For beginner players, Page was easier to figure out than Steve Howe's intimidating complexity and depth. Thus Page is a much bigger influence.
I hear you there
Phil Keaggy, Guthrie Govain, Tommy Emanuel are up there, imo.
They are.
Best of all time is so subjective but I’m lucky that the 2 that were the most influential to me happen to be 2 of the greatest of all time, although I don’t care what others think. Criss Oliva and George Lynch.
Fair enough
Johnny Winter ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Great but the greatest of all time?
as a side remark, nobody really wrote "with" Ozzy. First of all, initially before the brand hijack, it was The Blizzard of Ozz band, put together by Bob Daisley and Ozzy, and Bob red or green lighted the potential band members together with Ozzy.
Second point is the common denominator that they all wrote _with Bob_ who was the key to unlock everyone's brilliance at every stage of the writing process, including collaboratively figuring out best progressions and rhythms for guitar and bass and the phrazing of the lyrics he wrote. Because he wrote s Bob is the central person who solidified Ozzy's career even when he was chronically in a completely incapable state and absent. Heck, even in the beginning Lee would be creating/singing melodies for new songs while Ozzy was clocked out, so even though Ozzy could have some added input, he could even have virtually zero input in writing even though he was credited.
It truly was a shame on the Osbourne family that they didn't express appreciation and gratitude to Bob at the RNRHOF. Jake and Lee aswell.
So technically it would be "writing with The Blizzard of Ozz" band and later "writing with Bob for Sharozzy Inc.".
I hear ya!
Three (or 4) great new young players: Ichika Nito, John Nathan Cordy, Danny Yau , oh Max Ostro, etc, etc. Probably the best ones, we'll never hear from them! Guthrie Govan is a great contemporary one too!
Those guys are all great but they need a Good song…..
I'm old enough to remember guys like Glen Campbell and Roy Clark, both wizards. I've never really enjoyed choosing who's best. There are so many greats, who do what they do. I mean of course there's obvious choices but there's just too many great players and styles. It's all good!
So true!!!
If we are talking all genres you must include Andres Segovia, Julian Bream and John Williams. Also Pat Metheny, John Scofield and Mike Stern.
They are some of the best in their genres but maybe not best all around
@@badbrad how about Greg Koch? That guy plays everything. How about Lukather? Same with him. Govan?
@@DabsDad All great....but the greatest....that moniker doesn't exist for anyone....
Frank Zappa, Roy Buchanan, Jeff Beck, Doc Watson, Leo Kottke, Jorma Kaukonen
All epic
Any comparison is intriguing but I'm not sure it's quantifiable. Could Eddy or Randy play a Stevie Ray Vaughan song convincingly? I'm not convinced. When I heard rock gods play blues, it's always somehow, lacking. I love Sach.. but his blues is not what I consider top notch. As for the rolling stones lists, completely agree. How can Dave Manichetti never show up? Great licks, great feel, melodic, jazzy and he sings? What does a guy need to do?
Nicely presented, thanks for sharing.
Thank you Ghost!! You’re right a lot of rock guys don’t sound good playing real blues.
Terry Kath in the running.
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HEY BRAD , When someone would ask Me something like that , IF YOU WANT TO PUT SOMEONE IN THE CATEGORY OF GREATEST , FOR ME It would not be Just GREAT PLAYING , Example Greatest Drummer or Guitarist would NOT be someone who Just Could Play but who Made that Guitar or Drums more Famous Or CONTRIBUTED something to or for That Instrument. BUDDY RICH , Was the Only Celebrity Great Drummer who was at Gene Krupas Funeral , That ought to tell you something about what he thought about Him.
EXAMPLE Drummer , GENE KRUPA Varied techniques: He incorporated press rolls, BRUSH WORK, and interactive playing with soloist.
Dynamics: Krupa could play with both power and subtlety, adapting his style to different musical contexts.
First to record with a bass drum: He was one of the first drummers to record with a bass drum, despite initial resistance from recording engineers.
Standardizing cymbal terminology: Krupa is credited with standardizing cymbal terms such as Crash, Ride, Splash, Pang, and Swish in collaboration with Avedis Zildjian
Tom-Tom Tuning: Krupa played a crucial role in the development of tom-toms that were tunable on both sides. This innovation allowed for greater tonal control and versatility in drum sounds
Drum kit configuration: He helped streamline the drum kit, moving away from extraneous elements like temple blocks and Chinese tom-toms, focusing on a more manageable setup with bass drum, two or three toms, snare drum, and a few cymbals , also Contributed to bringing forward the More Use of the HIGH HAT Cymbal.
HE BROUGHT THE DRUMMING TO THE FOREFRONT with his Great Playing , and Brought In The DRUM SOLO In BANDS , STILL used to this Day.
SHOWMANSHIP: KRUPA was the First Drummer to Twirl The Drum Sticks in His Fingers , AND STILL DONE TODAY LOL , His visual appeal and energetic performances elevated the role of the drummer from mere timekeeper to FRONT LINE PERFORMER.
Dynamics: Krupa could play with both power and subtlety, adapting his style to different musical contexts
Inspiration: His playing inspired millions to become drummers. AND STILL does to this Day.
His technical innovations, showmanship, and musical versatility continue to be studied and admired by drummers today. Neil Peart was a close follower of Krupa , Studied him Big Time
So when someone says GREATEST to put someone in that Category. FOR ME its Not Only That They were Great Players, BUT someone that was so advanced AND Changes to even IMPROVE their Instrument. That They Were way ahead of There Time. So far No one Has Changed the Set Up Krupa made to the Drum Set even after all Theses Years , And Still Twirling There Drum Sticks lol , AND YES BOY O BOY he was a Great Drummer. ,, CHICAGO LOU
Gene Krupa revolutionized the drum set, and his showmanship set a standard for drummers that continues to be admired today.
to me its who affects me the most jimi live, songs like machine gun from band of gypsys and hear my train comin from Berkeley just blow me away I can play some of it but not alot and many more songs, also robin trower live with amazing solos, I like van halen his guitar playing impresses me but doesn't touch me at all same with many of these newer guys
I hear ya!
Is it Django Reinhardt? Is it Dean Parks? Is it Albert Lee? Is it Jeff Beck? Is it Larry Carleton? Is it Charlie Christian? Is it Tony Rice???
All of them.
Stevie Ray did it all. Glen Campbell too. I got you...Keith Richards did it all. How many guys can come up with something so simple but will be listened to 100yrs from now.....Satisfaction?
Played legato like Holdsworth? Played metal like Van Halen. Played Jazz like Joe Pass?
I’m not a country guy but I’ve always respected Glen Campbell. He was a very talented musician. He did his own thing.
Greatest can have several meanings. There are several great players. No one can say anyone is the single greatest. If anyone tries to name one there are several thousands of people ready to disagree. Just appreciate all the greatness out there and ignore these rankings
True!
There is one that can do anything by anyone you mentioned. He has also played in front of 10s of thousand of people per night (with Deep Purple). It's Steve Morse. He can literally do it ALL.
Great player but I don’t really think anyone does it all. Steve is the best Steve. Ed is the best Ed.
RR used a Marshall...I believe a JMP.
I don’t think in the studio he did….
@badbrad You may be right on that... I do not know what he used to record the Ozzy albums.
I've always loved Brian Setzer's playing - let alone handle all the vocals - but he never seems to make anybody's list.
He is great 👍🏻
Drums: Hal Blaine or Jeff Porcaro
For Guitar: Les Paul.
All legends
You aced the answer, there is no greatest. It’s all personal best. My favorite is and always ,Edward Van Halen, along with Lynch and Vai. Best and favorite modern one to me is Nita Strauss. But many many more great guitarists thru time.
Yes indeed
Wess Montgomery
Greatest Jazz of that era
More than best I think it’s influential such as:
EVH
Hendrix
Eric Johnson
Steve Luk
Chet Atkins
Solid
I think based on Technical skill its Lenny Breau. A finger style Jazz guitarist from the 1950s to the 1980s. Based on Influence and innovation I think its jimi hendrix. My personal Goat is mr John Dawson Winter III. Think hes the most passionate player ever
Ok I hear ya.
I saw a rolling stone "100 greatest guitarists" of all time list about 10 years ago and it included Joan Jett...all you need to know is she shouldn't be in the list of 1,000,000th guitarists ever...like you said, what kind of guitarist are we talking about here?
lol man you know
Because it lumps extremely different players in the same category
exactly
Listening to BadBrad is like listening to Morgan Freeman. I just lie down and listen to this like a podcast
Thank you!
Eddie Van Halen Van Halen Chad RHCP
Ok
Maybe there's a top 10,000 . Nothing's simple .
True
I couldn’t pick a GOAT… but I have debated this for at least 20 years. If you throw away chops and technical aspects and you just go by how they influenced guitar playing and their body of work, I think it comes down to three people. Hendrix, SRV, and Jimmy Page.
My only argument in your picks is SRV is largely derivative of Hendrix and Albert King.
@ SRV always admitted to being influenced by Hendrix and Albert King, and his big brother. But somehow SRV found the formula to get that sound to every blue collar, before the turn of the century American.
David Bowie certainly saw something in him.
It’s all subjective. Greats in every genre, you just have to find out who they are. Country, rockabilly, psychobilly, instrumental, on and on. Then there are the session legends. Same with drummers. I agree on some of the so-called greats. But to me, if their chops fit what is going on in the particular song, and/or they have their own recognizable style, that’s good enough for me.
I hear ya!
G.O.A.T. lists mean different things to different people. Who I think is great, you might think sucks royally, and vice versa. If it's based on someone who can easily assimilate themselves into various styles of music, my G.O.A.T. drummer would be Terry Bozzio of Missing Persons, Jeff Beck's band and Steve Vai's band. My G.O.A.T. guitarist would be a tie between Al DiMeola and Gary Moore. They can shred through rock and metal runs just as easily as they can play flawless fusion runs.
All great choices
Trailor Swift was listed as a Top 10 Guitarist of the year or some silly nonsense like that.
LMAO
Guitar? Brad Nowell, from Sublime.. Might be my opinion but could aldo possibly be hard to deny!
Great songs for sure.
@ Whoa!! BB !! my man! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING! LEGEND.
Greg bissonette
That's a guy who can do it all...
Tracii Guns is the best...and that's final
Ok….
No Such Thing as a GOAT . So many Guys have SO little Knowledge of anything beyond Zeppilin or Rush . I asked a Kid Who His Top 10 Drummers were ...He said 1 thru 5 Were John Bonham...He's never heard of Billy Cobham ,Bill Bruford , Alphonse Mouzon etc etc
Yeah most will never know
The whole questions of “The greatest “ on any instrument or vocalists is ABSURD. As you point out you cannot compare genres but even within genres it is not a valid question because there it is not a race or a contest and music does not have some exact standard or limit or mark to hit. Its not like say a sprinter who runs the 100 yard dash the fastest ever recorded and then gets called the GREATEST SPRINTER. Music is created and made as an art form not some pissing contest. The magazines are just trying to sell copies and ROLLING STONE isthe worst.
Man I agree 💯
Yes Vinnie, easily the greatest all around drummer of all time, could play any style easily.
Man you know!!
The greatest overall musician of the 20th century is probably Leon Russell.
Great musician who didn’t get the credit he deserved.
complexity doesnt make a guitarist great in the eyes of the masses, virtuosity still has to be in the confines of great phrases/songs. 99.9% of music lovers would rather listen to EVH/Hendrix over Jason Becker or Al Dimeola.
Me included
Really is subjective, my favourite player may not be the g o a t, really is each to their own, in my case Johnny Ramone is the Greatest because of his innovative down picking technique, would there
be a James Hetfield if not for Johnny? We’ll never know…
The world may never know
The reason that it's such a great question is that there's really no right answer. The greatest player of all time could be a session player that played on hundreds of records of multiple genres that nobody's generally familiar with. Tony Rice? Paco DeLucia? Chet Atkins? Billy Strings? Wes Montgomery? Joe Pass? There just isn't ONE 😊 The Rolling Stone list is an absolute joke driven by social biases and Woke ideology 😑
Man you get it!!
Most impressive guitar player I've ever seen is Guthrie Govan. My favorite guitar player might be Alex Lifeson. Who do I think is the most accomplished guitarist or the greatest, most recognized and original with true artistry? Tough one... Jeff Beck is the only name that stands in the light. There are many others circling the campfire but I can't make out their faces. The fact that Rolling Stone forgot that Alan Holdsworth even existed in their top all-time 250 guitar players list, negates their credibility quite significantly, doesn't it?
As far as drummers go, if you think someone's the "best", play some of their videos and then watch some videos of Dave Weckyl or Vinnie Colaiuta and you'll probably think twice about how good your new favorite drummer actually is. In my opinion, I think Neil Peart was the most accomplished, recognized, respected drummer with true artistry and originality. He definitely wasn't the "best" drummer ever (see Weckyl/Colaiuta, etc) but he was one of the greatest in scope and influence. His skies were incredibly wide.
Great post!!
Eric Clapton is God. Written on a wall. Remember that story. lol He single-handedly holds the alternate GOAT title. God Of All Time.
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HAL BLAINE.
One of the most recorded drummers of all time....
Sorry its Jimi
See post above…
I love it if you can’t reach Joe six pack and his girlfriend
It’s true not easy to play some hip stuff and still be relatable.
Eddie wasn't into Hendrix at all.
He says but I sure hear a lot in his playing….
I have a vhs drum video called Burning for Buddy. Neil plays on it and is the worst drummer on the video. And I revere Neil but jazz was not his genre.
Man I hear you loud and clear.....
@@badbrad Now, Steve Smith on the other hand... This is where I really discovered him and how talented he is. You'd never notice much from listening to Journey alone, but Steve is such a power house.
@@allenmitchell09 very true!