@@C00kiesAplenty The point is Siege Rhino is not considered to be modern playable anymore. Playing with these days are considered to be a joke/meme deck and jank by those standards something Seth is known to love playing
@Christian YapSiege Rhino wrosk really well in the deck espeically with Ephemerate. If you don't want to play Siege Rhino the new Orzhov Stonebalde/reanimate deck is probably your best bet.
And so it did when I played it in my Athreos, Shroud Veiled commander deck, put a coin counter on it and then had a sacrifice outlet to exile two of my brother's lands on each of my turns.
@@smegmalasagna you can also use a lurrus deck to keep recycling animate dead/dance of the dead, or kaya's ghostform. I did the same thing by using enduring renewal+archon of thingy to delete my friends lands and enjoyment
Ashen Rider is a long white haired dude carring a sickle and riding an albine panther with wings. I think that's all the reason you need to play it. What i can't wrap my mind around is why you would play a deck like the guy on match 3. The thought behind must be "boy, how can i be a c**k blocker even in magic?"
8:53 "we just couldnt find a finisher" in a game where he had 4 untapped black mana with persist and unmarked grave in hand vs 0 graveyard hate but chose to use both spells to bring back fulminator mage.
I built the rhino rites you made back in the days, one of my first modern decks. I had such blast to play it and eventually upgraded the mana base with fetches and stuff. Happy to see it updated with mh2.
So legacy is the only format I consistently play. I love value piles in that format and this is the first deck to make me want to play Modern! Might check this deck out in a non-budget form.
Just got 12 Whack as my first modern deck returning to mtg, and now I wanna try this one too lmao. Looks like a sweet deck, good upgrade path, and Siege Rhino is hella nostalgic to me. (Ngl, this whole deck is nostalgia city from a couple episodes of Friday Nights, the reason I started playing mtg in the first place)
This deck looks so cool. For sure gonna take it to my lgs’s modern event next week. I took the B/G reanimate deck y’all made a while ago and it’s been great fun
I played a match against this build earlier this week. Good to know where it came from because I was having a hard time finding a deck list to link to.
Sleeved up the deck and i have to say those man-lands are doing a lot of work. There are those turns where you just want to smash face with siege rhino’s and as many creatures as possible and finish your opponent with an ephemerate.
I wanna see you take on a First Day of Class deck. For 1 and a R you get a sorcery with "whenever a creature enters the battlefield under you control, put a +1/+1 counter on it". It goes infinite with Murderous Redcap and I think pretty much any creature that has Persist, I think. All you need is a sac outlet to get the combo going.
m1 g2 why did we never unmarked grave for a finisher? also i think in that game if they blast zone our damping sphere and then we hit their tron land, leaving them with 1 land, thats better than killing the blast zone, especially since we have another damping sphere
Grief is probably a bad call as you don't really wanna disrupt, so much as slam threats on the field. Maybe in the sideboard but IDK tbh. Solitude is probably a solid 1 or 2 off replacing maybe a boneshards and a rhino. All in all though the deck is pretty solid. You really don't want to cut too many rhinos as its a big factor in the resilience of the deck vs GY hate. It buys you the time you need vs faster aggro decks (which we didn't really get too see in the vid) to get to the point where you're hard casting bombs or find your anti-hate if for example RDW resolves a rest in peace or something.
Hey! I love the video, what do you think about Life from the loam over Grisley Salvage in the main board and maybe 1/2 of Footsteps of Goroyo in the side ?
This deck reminds me of a better Sidisi Whip deck from standard back in the day. Except siege rhino is now the worst creature in the deck lol. It’s awesome to see it
yea I liked those sets, I think the best time was after theros rotated out and before magic origins was released. Theros (thoughtseize and more aggro) and origins was still fun though
@SaffronOlive In the article you mention casting Bone Shards on turn 1 to Persist on turn 2. How is that legal if there's nothing for Bone Shards to Target?
Probably more of the same. Its only the mana and the sideboard that gets upgraded. The list is already really solid outside of those two things, big kudos to Seth for the fantastic build!
3 months late but guess it applies to any budget deck. I think it would be just neato if you would also do a game of the ultra budget deck and non-budget deck (not in a league just in the normal queues) just so we can see what those would look like
What changes would you make with the new cards from New Capenna and the rest of 2022? I feel that Workshop Warchief may be a solid replacement for thragtusk. Blitz it gain life draw a card get a token reanimate it gain more life
Seth, is that a Black Lotus on the shelf up and to the left of your head? The lotus is normally situated in the right of the art frame but the camera may be mirrored. Edit: Nvm, the box to the right has letters that aren't mirrored.
@@mtg_shaggy Later to dinner is much worse of a card with the option of rites, mainly being able to cast it twice or cast it from the yard is really good. Also a food token doesn't really matter for anything. We've actually had 4 Mana white reanimation in modern already as well
I feel like this deck wants Prismatic Ending over Path to Exile to hit GY hate pieces like Relic and Grafdiggers. Either way, looks like a lot of fun, might actually build this in paper.
@@6ixpool520 good point, Knight is also reanimatable, but I do thing being able to fairly reliably cast Prismatic with X3 to eat bridges is probably better suited than whatever the weird sideboard card from Strixhaven was.
'grizly salvage, hopefully mill an ashen rider' >Unmarked grave in hand 'can we please draw an actual finisher' >Unmarked graves a burial rites to reanimate another useless fulminator instead of getting an ashen rider
I fail to see how keeping his opponent off of mana was a bad line of play. If the opponent can't resolve anything, it doesn't matter when he draws into his finisher. It was a very controlling way to play, not a wrong way to play.
@@zenmello7616 Ashen rider also destroys a land and hits for 4 in the air Keeping hands with no clock against tron is a surefire way to lose because they will eventually find tron or simply make their land drops and tap 6 for a wurm. It is absolutely a wrong way to play..
@@ClubbingSealCub Not when you can repeatedly remove multiple permanents every turn cycle 🤷🏼♂️. The Tron player was climbing uphill that entire game, and lost through a crucible. If it worked out, it doesn't really matter. Seth won, so clearly it wasn't wrong.
*Wins the game with Ashen Rider and MH2 Cards * "Siege Rhino is back!" Never change, Seth
Hey, don't forget the Ephemerate from MH1
@@C00kiesAplenty The point is Siege Rhino is not considered to be modern playable anymore. Playing with these days are considered to be a joke/meme deck and jank by those standards something Seth is known to love playing
@Christian YapSiege Rhino wrosk really well in the deck espeically with Ephemerate. If you don't want to play Siege Rhino the new Orzhov Stonebalde/reanimate deck is probably your best bet.
@Christian Yap I know it's old news, but maybe Thragtusk? the Ephemerate flicker still leaves you with a 3/3 then.
@@Tupiaz do you have a list for that?
"We'll get rid of your... will to play" The secret mode of Ashen Rider
Such a fun card to play
And so it did when I played it in my Athreos, Shroud Veiled commander deck, put a coin counter on it and then had a sacrifice outlet to exile two of my brother's lands on each of my turns.
@@smegmalasagna you can also use a lurrus deck to keep recycling animate dead/dance of the dead, or kaya's ghostform. I did the same thing by using enduring renewal+archon of thingy to delete my friends lands and enjoyment
Ashen Rider is a long white haired dude carring a sickle and riding an albine panther with wings.
I think that's all the reason you need to play it.
What i can't wrap my mind around is why you would play a deck like the guy on match 3.
The thought behind must be "boy, how can i be a c**k blocker even in magic?"
First match:
Game 1: Hi, I'm Reanimator
Game 2: HAH! Jokes on you, I'm actually Ponza!!
Siege Rhine is deffo a good gruul ponza card
"Hello everyone, it's Seth... Probably better notice how fried I'll live."
- auto captions
Lol
He talk in hieroglyphics.
Probably the first of the modern budget magic decks that really excites me enough to give it a hard look and consider the upgrades too
Glad you liked it!
Same, which is why I'm scared that it'll spike in price until it's no longer budget, like izzet blitz did.
@@Frostgiantbutsmall I'm calling it Izzet Blizzet from now on, and you should too
I run Traverse the Ulvenwald instead of the MH2 entomb. A playset of Inquisition also does a lot of work.
I bought the original abzan rites and have had a blast with it. This is just a better version of it.
22:39 bone shards kills planeswalkers
Huh, good call.
yeah I was wondering why he just didn't kill Tezzeret and kept working towards a 7-8 drop.
8:53 "we just couldnt find a finisher" in a game where he had 4 untapped black mana with persist and unmarked grave in hand vs 0 graveyard hate but chose to use both spells to bring back fulminator mage.
I think the mana tax on damping sphere was stopping him from doing that in one turn.
@@manicstring8406 even so next turn could’ve used it to finish the gane
This one actually triggered me.
Yeahhh the tendancy towards ponza was definitely suboptimal. LD only matters with sustain , or preferably pressure on board. This had neither. Ah well
I mean that's not really fair. Keeping Tron on low mana is usually the best play because of Karn. He didn't know he was gonna not draw anything
That lantern control player had some pretty backbreaking misplays lmfao
My first modern deck and still the favorite one, now new and improved. Amazing
I really love this deck too :)
lol the last time Seth played this deck it got me into modern. Very excited to see it new and improved
Holy shit, this is possibly the most fun budget deck I've seen from you guys. A+
Opponent: *scoops to archon*
Seth: "siege rhino did this
Classic Seth he does it every time 😂
I built the rhino rites you made back in the days, one of my first modern decks. I had such blast to play it and eventually upgraded the mana base with fetches and stuff. Happy to see it updated with mh2.
I’ve never seen Tron humiliated so badly! I love it!
"Come on, Magic Gods, reward us for our greed."
Do.... do you think Seth has ever watched this channel, or....?
I see this going only one way, Spectacularly!
So legacy is the only format I consistently play. I love value piles in that format and this is the first deck to make me want to play Modern! Might check this deck out in a non-budget form.
Have fun!
This looks like a really fun budget option.
It is!
Wow got to hand it to you Seth this deck actually looks great. Kudos for the mana base, it’s pretty good for a 3 color Budget deck
That first match was legendary, holy cow! Love it! Siege Rhino for the win!!! 👏
"We will get rid of your will to play!". Love the deck.
Finally, our beloved abzan rites!
Seth’s ringing endorsement..: “ we can mostly cast our stuff” haha
wowowowow. that game against lantern was insane. you should post a list of this without budget restrictions. Amazing game play
Seeing Tron get taken apart always makes my day. Thank you Seth
About 29:00 there was a forgone cycle off the triome
Just got 12 Whack as my first modern deck returning to mtg, and now I wanna try this one too lmao. Looks like a sweet deck, good upgrade path, and Siege Rhino is hella nostalgic to me. (Ngl, this whole deck is nostalgia city from a couple episodes of Friday Nights, the reason I started playing mtg in the first place)
This is an awesome deck. Looks great fun to play
I got this deck for modern because of this vid :) I'm really looking forward to play it.
Sweet deck, I'm looking forward to seeing the upgraded list get played on stream in a league.
The plan works perfectly right after he was about to scoop.
This deck looks so cool. For sure gonna take it to my lgs’s modern event next week. I took the B/G reanimate deck y’all made a while ago and it’s been great fun
Seth with a damping sphere in play only killing tron lands and letting opponent have all the forests.... never change.
I played a match against this build earlier this week. Good to know where it came from because I was having a hard time finding a deck list to link to.
Honestly not having fetch lands helps keep land count high to cast the archons. This deck looks amazing!
Seth dropping a Rengar voice line is neat
You gotta make a much abrew on that Mardu Vehicles list. Or possibly a series that takes old top tier standard lists and upgrades them for modern?
im amazed at how resilient that deck is, even when they boarded in hate, it was never good enough
Yes yes yes, building this deck for sure.
Sleeved up the deck and i have to say those man-lands are doing a lot of work. There are those turns where you just want to smash face with siege rhino’s and as many creatures as possible and finish your opponent with an ephemerate.
That final swing on Lantern was so juicy.
there's something very cathartically satisfying about bringing back archons for 2 mana
Seth playing very well with this shard. And I don't have to hear him mispronounce mountain 20 time. Nice.
Would you change ephemerate to teleportation circle? Satyr Wayfinder can blink, but the instant speed blink can't be understated...
Ah yes my favorite deck type good old animation station 🤣
If anyone has an upgraded list with different options I'd love to see it!
The deck is good as is! Try to upgrade the mana base if you haven’t already. Grief/Solitude are good additions too. Hope you’re having fun w modern!
I wanna see you take on a First Day of Class deck. For 1 and a R you get a sorcery with "whenever a creature enters the battlefield under you control, put a +1/+1 counter on it". It goes infinite with Murderous Redcap and I think pretty much any creature that has Persist, I think. All you need is a sac outlet to get the combo going.
m1 g2 why did we never unmarked grave for a finisher?
also i think in that game if they blast zone our damping sphere and then we hit their tron land, leaving them with 1 land, thats better than killing the blast zone, especially since we have another damping sphere
If you play Lantern Control, you don't get to go to heaven when you die.
Of course not, Hell needs us to torment sinners.
Could a non budget version of this deck play grief and some solotudes?
I would think yes, absolutely. You'd have to take out the Rhinos though lol
@@hart7668 poor rinos tho :(
Yep!
@@robinkube16 Yeah :/
Grief is probably a bad call as you don't really wanna disrupt, so much as slam threats on the field. Maybe in the sideboard but IDK tbh.
Solitude is probably a solid 1 or 2 off replacing maybe a boneshards and a rhino. All in all though the deck is pretty solid.
You really don't want to cut too many rhinos as its a big factor in the resilience of the deck vs GY hate. It buys you the time you need vs faster aggro decks (which we didn't really get too see in the vid) to get to the point where you're hard casting bombs or find your anti-hate if for example RDW resolves a rest in peace or something.
Siege the day!
...that Game 3 result cements in my mind that the M:tG community at large is VASTLY under-estimating *Unmarked Grave*
It's really strong!
Any deck with siege rhino makes me happy
@26:26 Ephemerate the Wayfinder and fizzle the Brutality?
Are there any other good options people would recommend to supplement either siege rhino or Archon of Cruelty/Ashen Rider
Solitude
Hey! I love the video, what do you think about Life from the loam over Grisley Salvage in the main board and maybe 1/2 of Footsteps of Goroyo in the side ?
Why not maindeck 2 knight of autumn and SB 2 Rhino?
This deck reminds me of a better Sidisi Whip deck from standard back in the day. Except siege rhino is now the worst creature in the deck lol. It’s awesome to see it
Seth out here with the maindeck ghost quarters in a shaky budget 3 color mana base plus fulminators and damping spheres in the board XD
Why concede when you can bone splinter on the Tezzeret?
I would like to see a non budget version, I think this deck did well
The fact that this isn't running at least 2 priest of fell rites over the eternal witness seems like a major oversight.
Amen, being able to Unmarked Grave a priest is a big play.
E wit is more flexible and can be abused with ephemerate
Khans standard was one of my favorite formats. rhino FTW
yea I liked those sets, I think the best time was after theros rotated out and before magic origins was released. Theros (thoughtseize and more aggro) and origins was still fun though
@@Chris3s actually when origins was released, theros was still in standard
@@TheMCGamer2012 hm was it? where can I look it up? hard to check for myself
@@Chris3s Standard cycles were much longer back then- magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mm/metamorphosis see the gif in the bottom half
@@TheMCGamer2012 thanks, I think both were fun, with theros and after rotation
Siege Rhino steals the glory :D
10/10 Teferi Impression Seth 6:20
So is ashen rider a cast trigger to exile even if it gets countered.
@SaffronOlive
In the article you mention casting Bone Shards on turn 1 to Persist on turn 2.
How is that legal if there's nothing for Bone Shards to Target?
Your opponent could have a creature on your first turn.
I have your og rhino rites deck. Really fun but this looks even better. Definitely gonna change up the deck.
I love this thing!
Curious how the non-budget version of this would do
Probably more of the same. Its only the mana and the sideboard that gets upgraded. The list is already really solid outside of those two things, big kudos to Seth for the fantastic build!
Love you Saffron!
That was the dirtiest Thragtusk I’ve seen. So many 2013 standard cards too.
I thought the Windows Alert sound at the end of the 2nd Match was on my computer and I got confused as hell. lol
*Jaws theme starts playing*
3 months late but guess it applies to any budget deck. I think it would be just neato if you would also do a game of the ultra budget deck and non-budget deck (not in a league just in the normal queues) just so we can see what those would look like
What about Resto Angel instead of ephemerate? It's also another reanimate target
Game 1 against that whir deck might have used Boneshards on Tezz?
What changes would you make with the new cards from New Capenna and the rest of 2022? I feel that Workshop Warchief may be a solid replacement for thragtusk. Blitz it gain life draw a card get a token reanimate it gain more life
You cant just release a siege rhino budget magic Seth. You can't do this to me.
Also, my boi is gonna get banned in Penny Dreadful! Nooo!!!
Can we get an affinity vehicles deck???
Gonna test priest of the fell rites in this!
would this be fine in historic?
I've waited for this since wither bloom command
Any chance you'll play this again soon on stream or like Much Abrew?
Sweet
Seth, is that a Black Lotus on the shelf up and to the left of your head? The lotus is normally situated in the right of the art frame but the camera may be mirrored.
Edit: Nvm, the box to the right has letters that aren't mirrored.
We need a update of this deck for 2024 modern.
A tron whooping ALWAYS cheer me up.
the last lantern match... couldn't you play siege rhino and blink it 2 times to win?
From the thumbnail, I thought you were going to use the new card "Late to Dinner" instead of Unburial Rites tbh...
right????? why wouldnt he?
@@mtg_shaggy Later to dinner is much worse of a card with the option of rites, mainly being able to cast it twice or cast it from the yard is really good. Also a food token doesn't really matter for anything. We've actually had 4 Mana white reanimation in modern already as well
@@MstrKipper o damn, we have?
@@mtg_shaggy Yeah it's called Resurrection, but it's not played in any modern decks I think ever
@@MstrKipper ahhhhh okay i was unaware of that card. thank you for lettin me know why rites is a better pick!
I know this deck did well, but how about 2 Gyrudas main as both, selfmill and reanimation?
Persist says “Non-legendary” so Gyruda would be anti-synergistic.
@@ms.sysbit5511 I did not mean to persist Gyruda.
EARLY SCOOPS VS LANTERN!!!!
Ah yeah Siege Rhino!
I feel like this deck wants Prismatic Ending over Path to Exile to hit GY hate pieces like Relic and Grafdiggers.
Either way, looks like a lot of fun, might actually build this in paper.
Already has knight of autumns though. Sometimes path is the only thing that saves you so I'm not averse to its inclusion
@@6ixpool520 good point, Knight is also reanimatable, but I do thing being able to fairly reliably cast Prismatic with X3 to eat bridges is probably better suited than whatever the weird sideboard card from Strixhaven was.
Satyr Wayfinder and Grisly Salvage? Pardon me, as I press that like button.
Those are two of my favorites too.
Oh my god it’s siege rhino again
whip of erebos would also work with this deck
Siege Rhino is great with grief and the other two creatures
love it
'grizly salvage, hopefully mill an ashen rider'
>Unmarked grave in hand
'can we please draw an actual finisher'
>Unmarked graves a burial rites to reanimate another useless fulminator instead of getting an ashen rider
I fail to see how keeping his opponent off of mana was a bad line of play. If the opponent can't resolve anything, it doesn't matter when he draws into his finisher. It was a very controlling way to play, not a wrong way to play.
@@zenmello7616 Ashen rider also destroys a land and hits for 4 in the air
Keeping hands with no clock against tron is a surefire way to lose because they will eventually find tron or simply make their land drops and tap 6 for a wurm. It is absolutely a wrong way to play..
@@ClubbingSealCub Not when you can repeatedly remove multiple permanents every turn cycle 🤷🏼♂️. The Tron player was climbing uphill that entire game, and lost through a crucible. If it worked out, it doesn't really matter. Seth won, so clearly it wasn't wrong.
@@zenmello7616 it worked out, but it was still an incorrect decision.
@@ClubbingSealCub I don't think you understand the definition of incorrect then, lol. If it worked, and would work again, it isn't incorrect.