I would say yes and no. It's the best if you're purely looking for the best gaming experience (and software) while giving zero shits about build quality and budget. It's not the best if you consider the other 2 factors.
To each their own ofc but to me a keyboard needs to be more than JUST a gaming keyboard. I use it for everything so I want some creature comforts as well. Proper wrist rest, media keys and even a numb pad :p That said, the keycaps/lighting looks great. Lekker switches are great too.
Love my 60 HE. The ghost version of the 80 HE is tempting because i was planning on buying and building a omnitype bauer lite 😅 i really want a translucent board.
this 8k battle, tbh if reviewers have such a hard time saying "its clearly faster" ... it's just one more evidence that on daily use, all HE boards will perform well and around error margins. Even if they are quicker, you won't really notice :)
No matter how you look at latency there are many variables to it. Some keyboards even respond differently when multiple keys are pressed at once. There are examples where you can notice a difference just as there are examples where you can not. There isn't one clear cut answer and that is why reviewers stay neutral. In the debate of does it matter vs does it not, there can never be a clear cut winner in every situation.
At that point pick based on your layout preference altho if u have none, probably wooting with the l45's seeing you get better software, water resistance and longer warranty
What I'm most interested in is how compatible their pcb is with other cases. We've seen everyone make custom 60HE builds, but when it comes to a 75% layout there are a bunch of different variations when it comes to the spacing and layout of the arrow keys, insert, pgup, pgdn and del keys. I'm sure brands will make some cases specifically for this pcb, but I really want to know if any that already exist are compatible; because who wants to wait?
Not sure if there'd be too many keen interest in making a 3rd party case for the 80HE, the market is so saturated at the moment. And I can't imagine that the tooling for the 80HE would be cheap, unlike the 60HE which is based of the tray mount design, that's existed for quite a long time now.
It has zero compatibility with anything, because they chose a weird niche layout that doesn't have any standardized pcb/ plate files. 75% keyboards in general (the 80he isn't a 75%) don't have any standardization that allows for case swapping.
@@GSixFiveFourThreeFourDashTwo they release plate and case files on github? So anyone that wants to do case for 80he can do it. Even they would help you a little
@@Frozoken you have no clue what ure talking about. the venoms have more sensitive actuation and rt at 0.01m minimum and true 8k polling and its objectively faster than wooting and its shown in benchmarks
@mil-kw9zi misread it is as wooting 60he ik the venom 60he is slightly faster but it's negligible. Also theyre both true 8k polling, the 80he just has a big with the led bar dropping it. With it off the 80he is true 8k polling. Not that it even matters on a keyboard where on the spectrum it lies thats above 4k but below 8k. 5k, 6k or 8k it doesn't even matter above 2k really lol
Did my reply to a comment get deleted?!? Wtf. If it did.. was it due to me swearing.. i dont comment alot so i dont actually know if thats like normally not allowed or whatever
You like this layout because it has an LED bar and "everything about looks does feel great". Amazing explanation. Especially like Del key being in a nice spot. Literally a standart spot for it. Absolutely horrible layout that makes no sense. This is TKL minus Home&End and with Ctrl in a non standard location, which only breaks mussle memory just as any non-standard layout.
This comment is overly angry and doesn’t track. You say delete is in a standard spot, which it is, but then say “absolutely horrible layout that makes no sense”. This is a standard 80% layout…? You can switch the keycap and remap function and CTRL and the non standard CTRL is fixed. Besides that, why is it horrible? Many of us who come from the custom side of things have been waiting for a standard layout larger than 60/65%, and this checks those boxes. Plus it comes from the first brand to popularize HE stuff. And tbf, everything on this board does feel great, and the light bar is an awesome edition. Not sure why you’re hating just to be angry, let some of us enjoy a good 80% HE board man
The plastic doesn't look dense enough and exposes far too much of the inside, and that front flex on the PCR is nasty as a result of cheap material. Just wish Wooting didn't opt for such a goofy layout - great review otherwise
induction switch is coming as well th-cam.com/video/IuR-85DmCno/w-d-xo.html similar but different switch again. wooting opened the gate, but there are so many other choices now. plus all HE boards at the moment still looks ugly and sounds horrible.
Sound is due to open bottoms, which a few switches now have fixed with closed bottoms like the raw GE, I believe, as well as the Jade Pros and Max's. Apparently, the Jade Gaming is coming too, but that's later. But apparently, they're all long pole. As for looks, that's opinion based, but yea, over time, we're gonna see more cases come out. I think the cleanest is Keychrons but they're also the most simplistic.
@@carboncopy8 - But I don't own an 80HE. Keyboards are just tools to me but I do appreciate the HE tech, and as far as case case designs go, I have other preferences. Ironically, Geon's Frog Mini revision won't be made by him, and will be made in a 'sweat shop' in China.
Dear AimAdapt. I'm so curious about the review of Zowie GSR-SE Bi. And GSR-SE Bi vs GSR-SE Gris(or route) vs VAXEE PE(Color printing ver.) vs PA(Color printing ver.) I'm so curious about the comparison of the Four MousePads above. I know you're too busy, but can you take some time to review it?
saw the video twice already. i love your opinion, succint and right at it. I own a white zinc 80HE as well and am so glad that i got it. its end game for me. thanks!
lmao you get 7/9 home cluster to use at once and you're meant to pick the ones you want. I'm not using scroll lock and pause break which are the most useless keys ever and you could too. There's no reason for it to be wider to save those keys. I have del, pgup/down, home/end, print screen and insert
Imagine waiting 1 year for that overpriced keyboard and getting a keyboard with a flexible case, with dust and dots inside the led bar and such a low quality keycaps... I dont speak even about zinc case which cost like a bridge but looks like a keyboard from the year 2000
I agree expecialy about the case design, as for the price, they got away with the plastic 60he, for 180 euros too, its just overhyped in general. Its a good keyboard preformance wise, and wooting as a company, seems pretty "nice" . Personaly i really like, Pwnage ZenBlade, and Zoom75 HE, i prefer the 75% layout cause of the F row keys tho.. ps, now with their new layout, there is no option to go aftermarket case wise, which is a downside too.
@@maxzoRHD the perfomance of keyboards is also overhyped! that is not that important at all.. u will not be able to see any difference between any of hall effect keyboards.. that polling rates and latency is useless thing when it comes to keyboards! i have tested many of them included 80he... all of them is the same thing .. its more about marketing only.
@@Shyvorix give this keyboard to somone from that "hobby" and he will through this back to your face. This keyboard is overpriced cheap gaming plastic keyboard! And Its not hate its my opinion and experience.
@user-j9ki7r I am in the keyboard hobby in fact. The quality of the case itself, is cheap. The resulting sound is nice, but not the best. I am waiting for the zinc case version because it CAN sound amazing, as proven by my favorite creator, Keybored. Am also waiting for my Jade Pro's to arrive. As for keycaps I already have a set but am awaiting a DCX WOB soon... Really the main things I'm buying this for is knowing Wooting will still support this board years and years from now, and that aspect is endgame to me because performance is above all else.
I just got my 80 he the other day and I hate it. My space and back/ delete key sticking way worse than yours. It a great board don’t get me wrong. But paying this premium price tag for the zinc model and to have my space and back keys sticking the way they do is not an acceptable. Reached out for support and get the auto response they are busy blah blah. I ended up fixing them myself by taking it apart and relubed them myself and it working. Sure not a biggie but from a company like Wooting and the price tag for a so called PREMIUM so not acceptable. Horrible experience coming from a 60 He to the 80HE
Loved the review. I like how chill you are
I would say yes and no. It's the best if you're purely looking for the best gaming experience (and software) while giving zero shits about build quality and budget. It's not the best if you consider the other 2 factors.
To each their own ofc but to me a keyboard needs to be more than JUST a gaming keyboard. I use it for everything so I want some creature comforts as well. Proper wrist rest, media keys and even a numb pad :p That said, the keycaps/lighting looks great. Lekker switches are great too.
True :)
Man I really wanna buy this keyboard but having to wait until the 25th for the shipment is crazy.
Love my 60 HE. The ghost version of the 80 HE is tempting because i was planning on buying and building a omnitype bauer lite 😅 i really want a translucent board.
Any plans on reviewing the luminkey magger68?? The pro version comes with gateron jades out the box
I want some too test the 35gf springs on the wooting v2 switches with the 80he
this 8k battle, tbh if reviewers have such a hard time saying "its clearly faster" ... it's just one more evidence that on daily use, all HE boards will perform well and around error margins. Even if they are quicker, you won't really notice :)
No matter how you look at latency there are many variables to it. Some keyboards even respond differently when multiple keys are pressed at once. There are examples where you can notice a difference just as there are examples where you can not. There isn't one clear cut answer and that is why reviewers stay neutral. In the debate of does it matter vs does it not, there can never be a clear cut winner in every situation.
would u say this or the ez 63 with magnetic jades
the wooting with the lekker l 45v2
Tough call. Both are my two favorite keyboards ATM. I do slightly prefer the Wooting though.
At that point pick based on your layout preference altho if u have none, probably wooting with the l45's seeing you get better software, water resistance and longer warranty
How do you fix the sticky shift key and space bar?
I guess you need to play with stabilisers a little
Clean lube from stabs and re lube
@@JakubixIsHerethis is the way. Had to do this myself. But still totally not good business from Wooting for a so called premium package
Will you review the Made68 Pro next? And possibly compare that to the 80HE?
They are sending me one eventually so I should have a review out on it in the future
They are sending me one eventually so I should have a review out on it in the future
@@AimAdapt Looking forward to it!
are you a satanist
What I'm most interested in is how compatible their pcb is with other cases. We've seen everyone make custom 60HE builds, but when it comes to a 75% layout there are a bunch of different variations when it comes to the spacing and layout of the arrow keys, insert, pgup, pgdn and del keys. I'm sure brands will make some cases specifically for this pcb, but I really want to know if any that already exist are compatible; because who wants to wait?
Not sure if there'd be too many keen interest in making a 3rd party case for the 80HE, the market is so saturated at the moment. And I can't imagine that the tooling for the 80HE would be cheap, unlike the 60HE which is based of the tray mount design, that's existed for quite a long time now.
@@Alby911 they could make cnc case for 80he but it would be extremly expensive
They always release files for people that want make case
It has zero compatibility with anything, because they chose a weird niche layout that doesn't have any standardized pcb/ plate files.
75% keyboards in general (the 80he isn't a 75%) don't have any standardization that allows for case swapping.
@@GSixFiveFourThreeFourDashTwo they release plate and case files on github? So anyone that wants to do case for 80he can do it. Even they would help you a little
why didnt u compare it to the ez63
They perform very similar to one another
@@AimAdapt okay but if u did it would have been a nice touch tho, but still nice vids keeep up the good work🥰
@@AimAdapt No, they're not.
Is it easy to swap the keyboards cases?
venom 60he/tkl pcb are better than this performance wise for a lower price, only caveat is you have to build it yourself
no they objectively aren't
@@Frozoken you have no clue what ure talking about. the venoms have more sensitive actuation and rt at 0.01m minimum and true 8k polling and its objectively faster than wooting and its shown in benchmarks
@mil-kw9zi misread it is as wooting 60he ik the venom 60he is slightly faster but it's negligible. Also theyre both true 8k polling, the 80he just has a big with the led bar dropping it. With it off the 80he is true 8k polling. Not that it even matters on a keyboard where on the spectrum it lies thats above 4k but below 8k. 5k, 6k or 8k it doesn't even matter above 2k really lol
@@mil-kw9zi 0.01mm is fake to look like it is faster than wooting. But it wont work properly because of mispresses
Performance test was nice but compare it to something older and ''normal'' keyboard....
What's the cheapest he keyboard rn?
I somehow managed to get my Keyboard weeks ago. And in my opinion, it's a solid Keyboard and was well worth the money.
Which keyboard is faster and better overall, Wooting 80HE or Iqunix EZ 60?
80he is faster tho feature wise it is not diffrent to 60he
Wooting is miles better.
@@JakubixIsHere Yes, it is different to 60HE. 80HE has true 8K pulling rate and lower latency as a result. But the question wasn't even about 60HE.
Review the ATK Z1 gaming mouse please.
It cool, but it hasn't came back outta the box since I got my Razer Blackwidow V4 PRO 75%.
So you got overpriced "custom" keyboard
HM80 imo is better. Has a better build, better sound, easy to use software, and you can even use a split spacebar
I am trying to get one sent out for review.
could you review atk x leviathan keyb. its look stunting and has a great feature i guess 🤔
Did my reply to a comment get deleted?!? Wtf. If it did.. was it due to me swearing.. i dont comment alot so i dont actually know if thats like normally not allowed or whatever
You like this layout because it has an LED bar and "everything about looks does feel great". Amazing explanation. Especially like Del key being in a nice spot. Literally a standart spot for it.
Absolutely horrible layout that makes no sense. This is TKL minus Home&End and with Ctrl in a non standard location, which only breaks mussle memory just as any non-standard layout.
This comment is overly angry and doesn’t track. You say delete is in a standard spot, which it is, but then say “absolutely horrible layout that makes no sense”. This is a standard 80% layout…? You can switch the keycap and remap function and CTRL and the non standard CTRL is fixed. Besides that, why is it horrible? Many of us who come from the custom side of things have been waiting for a standard layout larger than 60/65%, and this checks those boxes. Plus it comes from the first brand to popularize HE stuff. And tbf, everything on this board does feel great, and the light bar is an awesome edition. Not sure why you’re hating just to be angry, let some of us enjoy a good 80% HE board man
The plastic doesn't look dense enough and exposes far too much of the inside, and that front flex on the PCR is nasty as a result of cheap material. Just wish Wooting didn't opt for such a goofy layout - great review otherwise
this or kb65he?
Wooting obviously
Cool
induction switch is coming as well th-cam.com/video/IuR-85DmCno/w-d-xo.html similar but different switch again.
wooting opened the gate, but there are so many other choices now. plus all HE boards at the moment still looks ugly and sounds horrible.
Everyone has their preference but it does the job for me :)
Sound is due to open bottoms, which a few switches now have fixed with closed bottoms like the raw GE, I believe, as well as the Jade Pros and Max's. Apparently, the Jade Gaming is coming too, but that's later. But apparently, they're all long pole. As for looks, that's opinion based, but yea, over time, we're gonna see more cases come out. I think the cleanest is Keychrons but they're also the most simplistic.
Just watch how the next Geonworks PCB will obliterate this keyboard.
Is there anything more cringe than Geon simps, or product glazers in general
@@Alby911 No such thing as Geon simps, maybe Wooting meatriders yes
@@Alby911 But if you want a sweatshop quality product with horrible quality control then go ahead, I returned my 80HE
@@carboncopy8 - But I don't own an 80HE. Keyboards are just tools to me but I do appreciate the HE tech, and as far as case case designs go, I have other preferences. Ironically, Geon's Frog Mini revision won't be made by him, and will be made in a 'sweat shop' in China.
@@Alby911 I see, so your point is just hating on Geon. That, I dont quite understand but its a valid opinion itself.
Dear AimAdapt. I'm so curious about the review of Zowie GSR-SE Bi. And GSR-SE Bi vs GSR-SE Gris(or route) vs VAXEE PE(Color printing ver.) vs PA(Color printing ver.)
I'm so curious about the comparison of the Four MousePads above. I know you're too busy, but can you take some time to review it?
Sorry I don't have the Zowie GSR-SE Bi. I thought it was just the GSR-SE in a different colorway?
For me magnetic tkl keyboard are useless af
saw the video twice already. i love your opinion, succint and right at it. I own a white zinc 80HE as well and am so glad that i got it. its end game for me. thanks!
Short answer. Absolutely not
Would've been the perfect keyboard if it was a TKL. Didn't realise how important the home and end keys were.
lmao you get 7/9 home cluster to use at once and you're meant to pick the ones you want. I'm not using scroll lock and pause break which are the most useless keys ever and you could too. There's no reason for it to be wider to save those keys.
I have del, pgup/down, home/end, print screen and insert
So over priced
Imagine waiting 1 year for that overpriced keyboard and getting a keyboard with a flexible case, with dust and dots inside the led bar and such a low quality keycaps... I dont speak even about zinc case which cost like a bridge but looks like a keyboard from the year 2000
I agree expecialy about the case design, as for the price, they got away with the plastic 60he, for 180 euros too, its just overhyped in general. Its a good keyboard preformance wise, and wooting as a company, seems pretty "nice" . Personaly i really like, Pwnage ZenBlade, and Zoom75 HE, i prefer the 75% layout cause of the F row keys tho.. ps, now with their new layout, there is no option to go aftermarket case wise, which is a downside too.
@@maxzoRHD the perfomance of keyboards is also overhyped! that is not that important at all.. u will not be able to see any difference between any of hall effect keyboards.. that polling rates and latency is useless thing when it comes to keyboards! i have tested many of them included 80he... all of them is the same thing .. its more about marketing only.
Bruh this is hate for zero reason lmao. Also super expensive? You haven't been in the hobby cause this shit is cheap af...
@@Shyvorix give this keyboard to somone from that "hobby" and he will through this back to your face. This keyboard is overpriced cheap gaming plastic keyboard! And Its not hate its my opinion and experience.
@user-j9ki7r I am in the keyboard hobby in fact. The quality of the case itself, is cheap. The resulting sound is nice, but not the best. I am waiting for the zinc case version because it CAN sound amazing, as proven by my favorite creator, Keybored. Am also waiting for my Jade Pro's to arrive. As for keycaps I already have a set but am awaiting a DCX WOB soon...
Really the main things I'm buying this for is knowing Wooting will still support this board years and years from now, and that aspect is endgame to me because performance is above all else.
Overpriced keyboard not worth the price
I just got my 80 he the other day and I hate it. My space and back/ delete key sticking way worse than yours. It a great board don’t get me wrong. But paying this premium price tag for the zinc model and to have my space and back keys sticking the way they do is not an acceptable. Reached out for support and get the auto response they are busy blah blah. I ended up fixing them myself by taking it apart and relubed them myself and it working. Sure not a biggie but from a company like Wooting and the price tag for a so called PREMIUM so not acceptable. Horrible experience coming from a 60 He to the 80HE