Watch Bose's incredible electromagnetic car suspension system in action
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Bose spent years developing the ultimate suspension system that offered a super smooth, magic-carpet like ride. It was a technical success but a commercial flop. See why.
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No way!!!
Cost and weight ?
Rudolph the red nose reindeer..
Had a very shiny nose...
And if you ever saw it.
You would say it was made by Bose!
This is very satisfactory🤣
Is Fake
Those suspensions should come as a standard in all ambulance cars
Great thought!
That would actually be a really great idea.
totally!!
In a sense I do agree, but if it was that level, if they cornered hard enough, the suspension could potentially cause a flip.
Ahmed Wael 100% agreed
Conventional - GTA IV
Electromagnetic - GTA V
and VERY HEAVY cars in GTA IV
I enjoyed the heavy brick feel of gta 4. I found that it worked because the physics let you throw that weight around really well. The motorcycle physics also should have stayed from 4. I'm pretty sure they used the midnidnight club LA engine for the driving physics just tweeked.
Exactly what I thought as well. 😂
You look experienced
@@h4zard_ GTA IV cars are not so heavy. The GTA V cars have a unrealistic torque and grip, enough to climb a 85° hill.
For those who have never been in an LS400 those cars come off the line smooth like a coffin. You can hardly tell if the car is on. It’s difficult to imagine this car being more smoother than it already is.
Its not about being smooth, its about keeping the car flat
My favorite description about that engine is the following:
The allowable tolerance for vibration is zero. If the motor mounts are healthy, there is ZERO vibration that comes into the cabin. Even with the engine turning 5000 revs.
i test drove an sc300 (2jz in it) that thing moved like butter
@@rabbitdrink So think about LS400 which is way better in terms of comfort and being smooth
@@LivingTheDream77and that contributes to how smooth a car rides no?
Every new technology always starts as "too heavy and expensive."
due to lack of experience, info and possibly required materials, investments and researching for it.
Just like mobile phones back in the day.
It's like the iPhone of suspension... Except this suspension is good and iPhone isn't
@@kylereynhart lol
Its not new,electric conversions of cars been done since the early 2000's
My car would be literally flying around in India if I had those suspension setup 1:33
fck 😂
Flying car pet
😂😂😂
In Bangladesh too
@Manzoor Hekmatyar no
why is no one talking about how that car just jumped over a bump. it jumped. it hunched down and jumped...
Just like the UFOS do
+Seth .Topalian How did it control the gravity??+
that was like some serious "Knight Rider" shit... I was like, "whoa"...
IT JUMPS!!!
I can't stop laughing lol best comment ever!
It's too heavy?! How! It literally made the car jump 2 feet over a bump!
Agreed
yes but if you have a 500km milage on a full tank, now you gonna have 350-400, you still want it?
@@senior5904 yea just to experience it for a little.
Those electromagnetic suspension draw so much electric energy, so it needs additional electric source and battery (that weights alot)
@@ichihusni5014 Who cares, modern cars should offer this.
They always find a way to keep out the tech people actually need
Yup. Thank the global lockdown aliens and their dumb fans.
The tech’s not conventional yet, as the name “electromagnetic” implies, the suspension would need a constant power source
@@mftripz8445 Cars already have a constant power source...
@@mangoesareonsaleatcoles660 Sure, well you just keep pumping power into something that currently uses no power and see how your fuel bills look. In a time when every company is looking to increase efficiency. No chance.
I don’t think people sitting in really expensive cars care about efficiency… like what colour is your bugatti?
If they are abandoning it I really hope someone picks this up. I really don’t want this great tech to be lost to time. I think it has great potential.
eurosonly well I forgot about how it was patented. I’m just saying it could have potential to make rides smoother.
They did end up making seats for trucks
Volvo and Mercedes open source their research, don't they?
I thought Mercedes had developed some very advanced suspension. Perhaps Bose could be persuaded to opensource the Technology and not wait until the patents expire.
@@eurosonly Those patents probably expired by now. 17-20 years for a product patent and then it becomes public domain.
Imagine setting down some road spikes only for the car to just leap over it
Car jumps over spike stripes
Cop: am i a joke to you?!
Then set 2 spikes so it cant jump over it
the car has a mind of it's own and wants to preserve itself
@@tjsh02it just starts levitating above the spikes 💀💀
I'm sure, some crook looked at this video and thought the same thing.
The fact they didn’t even offer this on mainstream cars is a crime against humanity.
Police: these spike strips will destroy any car
Bose: *hold my beer*
Hold my suspensions*
Come on bro, just a little effort
@@yacinealg152 ikr 🤣
Hold my 🧲
No need. Just put it in the cup holder, it's not like it'll spill.
Rolls Royce would right a check for that suspension and pay extra so Bentley can't get it too.
write^
They should send you to school too. lol
+Ramin Prince Hey give him a brake. Maybe his skool wasn't top-tier.
Lol its funny he can't spell but knows of the rival between Bentley and RR.
Bose might just license it unless Rolls Royce pays a heavy penny
+Tim Young I think Ferrari is just jealous because he was not mentioned.
+Tim Young Brake. Nice touch.
I never knew bose did so much outside of sound systems.
Who were the idiots that deemed this suspension system "too heavy and too expensive???????". FIRE THEM!!!!!
The people who bought it
I don't know the actual details of how much the suspension system costs and weighs, but this new suspension feature is more of a luxury rather than a neccessity. If it's too expensive to integrate, it would mean car manufacturers would have to raise the price of the cars making it less affordable to consumers. Unless you have all the data and the economics concerning this, please don't make such a careless statement.
Alan
You are a damn visionless moron!
there's a good chance they ditched it due to trends in the car industry
A suspension system like this would be expensive, but also make the road have almost no textured feeling, the thing is modern cars are trending to be more sporty, and tactile, so a system like this would go against popular trends (trends that consumers bought into)
there's a reason power steering is tuned to give force feedback, and not feel floaty like 70's land yacht, or car designers are making everything angular and aggressive looking, even on slow consumer sedans and SUV's
trends might bring magnetic suspension into popularity in the future with luxury cars thought
Bromie
Sorry but u sound like an idiot. No such thing as “too expensive” with certain cars, and many ultra-luxury cars still have buyers that want smooth, no bump driving with NO ROAD FEEL! The Bose suspension ACTUALLY HANDELED BETTER making your use of the word “sporty” absolutely meaningless. Think, then type.
Shocking, this is completely advanced technology from another dimension
Too heavy??? Lol a mercedes s class weighs like 4500lbs
MrJuicemunkey and teslas over 5000 yet air rides are fine lol
And with this it would weigh even more.
@@kaapicino But it's already heavy so it would be a lower percentage of the overall weight
Pretty sure they are referring to unsprung weight..
this is not a mercedes this is lexus
I'd love to feel it for myself. What a great achievement. I do hope someone picks it up and puts it into production.
That's what she said
@@borkingdoggouwuuwuw no, its what avidcomp said
A company did pick it up
this looks unreal, thats how good it is
Is that Matt Farah's Million Mile Lexus?
yes
+Riswan Ahmad P no
Is it really? They say they 'bought' 2 LS400s
Nope it's brown
This is not Matt Farah's million mile Lexus. This is not Matt Farah's million mile Lexus. This is not Matt Farah's million mile Lexus.
"shut up and take my money!"
"why are we not funding this?!"
thats what i thought : bought over and shelved!!!!
Bose's suspension or boss's suspension 😳 That is so smart
I come back to this video every once in a while and it blows my mind every time
The Suspension in the other Car was absolute crap. No Lexus with a regular Suspension wiggles that mich. The Porsche on the other Hand needs a stiffer Suspension because it is a Sports car
Now that's luxury ride.
Imagine the height that the rear end of the car will have when you climb up a 20 degree incline. haha.
just kidding
Lol😂
Xylius Schaaij
Wait... So you're saying that there's a well known and understood technology that they used to achieve this result rather than inventing some never before seen system/technology that would take billions of dollars and a lot of time to develop only to achieve the same result?! That's absolute madness, you're crazy man.
@@1998gameover a quick push as if you went in a ditch then pull up wheels as it does for bumps
@@1998gameover It rapidly extends the front suspension, thus raising the front of the car then does the same with the back. Timing is everything.
It would fly over
The old ls400 looks also in 2023 so elegant and wonderful.
Funny that this was recommended to me on April fools Day
ok
@@Bodega-sx5ue ...Boomer
@@____e.p.art____ that's not how it works...
Ok
@@____e.p.art____ I am reminding you of your comment.
they do bunny hop with car,and I can't do it with bike :)
The Lexus LS400 as standard may just have the smoothest suspension ever but it’s just a whole lot better with this technology and that’s just crazy.
Imagine using this in parking lots with speed bumps xD
it's not goig to jump over things rewatch the video
punker4Real he’s not saying jump over them lmfao he’s saying just drive over them
Imagine using this at a kindergarten. You wont even feel the kids you run over. It'll be like it never happened
@@UCKY5 yeah, till someone makes this an aftermarket modification lmao
we've had a citroen c4 which despite its pretty normal suspension technology was remarkable at swallowing speed bumps. If only it didn't break every 3 or so years...
This is one of the most practical car modifications I have ever seen.
This is quite close to the Citroen hydropneumatic suspension that was introduced in 1955 in the DS-model. The Citroen Xantia Activa from 1995 was even better. Bose reinvented the wheel sotospeak...
yup, the Activa was the ultimate set up, still holds the fastest 'elk' test record, beating all the supercars.
bose realized that road vibrations can be outmatched by giant speakers acting like suspension
first watched this on TV and read about it in Popular Mechanics in 1993. Still amazed.
Why am I seeing this now and not 5 yrs ago!? Incredible 👏👏
if thiese suspension cost me 10000$ I want it just take my money pleaseee
Add two zeros you will be close...
@@stc2828 it would no cost more then 100k if its mass produce i know cars like bentley mulsane and rolls customer would pay the aditional cost for the extra magic carpet ride
Clandestine Clandestine it is lmao
My 85 Maxima had that - it worked really well
JR
CNET, can you stop loading up your sites with trojans, rookits, and virus. They are even in your downloaders, thanks...
+Iove75 Never use CNET, thats my personal review.
It's not a secret or magic.
It's a hydraulic suspension system but the fluid inside is magnetic.
Changing the strength of the magnetic field acting on the fluid changes the fluid's viscosity almost instantly.
An onboard computer is able to adjust the stiffness of the suspension thousands of times per second.
So its basically just like GMs Magneride, but instead of the shocks its the springs?
It uses linear motors, not hydraulics. What you described actually sounds more like a semi active suspension and not fully active like this one.
I swear I thought of this when I was a kid in the early 90s and I saw a Mercedes go by when I was riding my bike. I thought “what if the car could read the road ahead and push and pull the tires in anticipation of the road surface” and it seems like this is exactly what this does.
mercedes actually implemented that in some of their cars with air suspension starting in the mid 2000's i believe, their suspension uses radar to detect the road and tighten or loosen up in response to surface changes
Everyone gangsta until the vehicle tilts and goes on 2 wheels
Impressive, but still Citroën made it earlier and simpler. Of course hydropneumatics is not as easy to actively control as electromagnets, but let's be honest, Citroën produced and sold those cars since 1956 until late 2010s. Most notable are the hydractive systems introduced in XM and Xantia Activa, perfected in the C6.
this is amazing!
Yep
Hey gta guy
1:33 Push "R" button and do jump action. you get mini turbo when you land
Where are these now?..😅
Anyone in January 2019?
I had to check the description if this video was posted on April fool's day.
Bloody magic
I've been playing with magnets then a thought of having a magnetic suspensions for a car came up. So its already in existence
Same here
These should be standard on tanks. The srability would greatly improve accuracy and comfort for the crew
Finally, we can go off-road without having to be thrown around inside a Jeep
This^
Just saw an ad of chinese luxury van (GAC M8), that advertise this type of suspension as a feature...
Good to see, that this technology didn't get permanently shelved like many other good one's. 👍
This technology should be standard on any flagship luxury car. And anyone willing to pay 6 figures for a car will see the value in this.
Its the magic body Control by Daimler, in serial Production since over at least two years, Audi followed
If it's electromagnets you could bank the car during turns/braking which would increase rider comfort quite a bit. Just a few degrees makes a huge difference in perceived Gs.
And, oh my god. It can bunny hop.
Citroen hidropneumatic and Bose eletromagnetic
Great systems, but complex and expensive, you don't see It even in a Rolls Royce
CGI on instagram posts be lookin like:
As great as this is, most people will get car sick if they don't feel any connection to the road, it's very trippy if you have been in a high end luxury car. Also you could damage the car if you don't feel what you went over. Just a thought!
1:40 it remains "TURBO BOOST" from Knight Rider :)
Who’s here after watching the video of the new vehicle and suspension made by a Chinese company
CAFE killed this on the United States
If this was out there imagine how many ppl wouldn't slow down
a few decades of r&d and this product would have been made light enough and cheap enough for mainstream production. computers used to weigh a lot and cost a lot of money, now you get many times the computing power and it fits in your pocket and won't break the bank
This would be perfect for luxury sedans
These suspensions should be given for all cars in indian roads
The jump almost made it look like it's way a joke, but man... Was that real? That's some really interesting stuff, is there more about it? Like did it continued in some way?
Dude those were the smoothest driving cars ever
I wish there was a place where we could get the suspension changed to this on our own cars
Lexus model from Street Fighter 😆
Lexus LS400
Best vehicle to escape a high speed chase to avoid spike strips 💀
Backing over your wife has never been more comfortable.
And it was at 1:33 when all the criminals seen this and thought, spike strips won't matter anymore when we get chased by cops🤣🤣
Car: **drives**
Police: I will ruin this mans whole career.
Also police: **drops spikes**
Car: **jumps over spikes** ez..
Police: **surprised pikachu face**
Rolls Royce is awful heavy and pricey to afford this tech.
Air suspension can do that now so its not needed anymore
DuBstep115 I’ve looked at the best air suspension tech that you can buy and non of it can do those large adjustments in fractions of a second. There is also a lot more going on with the adjustment tech with the Bose suspension
@@jimmybarr9411 cool story
Now I know what KITT Turbo Boost was.
1:33 Damn.. this is Knight Rider Turbo Boost mode
The guy who invented Speed breaker: Am I a joke to you..?
Consider this : The ‘Conventional suspension’ shown in this video is that of a Lexus LS400, which was one of the best riding cars of its time. And the Bose suspension just casually beats it like it’s nothing. Just think about that
This is chassis ?
Good point
Can confirm my LS400 has an incredibly smooth ride
@@kj64gaming19 my buddy has a special edtion one its like driving a cloud
Bose is bankrupt. JBL
bye bye police spike strip
Haha lol right
Police spike stip: Am I a joke to you
I'll start to count Lexus jumping over fences instead of sheep before going to bed now.
A police Spike strip will pop tires not suspension
@@melikwalker296 Yes but at 1:32 the car jumps over that thing using the suspension so it should be able to do the same with the spikes
Police at roadblock: *Lays down spikestrip*
Bose Suspension: "I'm about to ruin this man's whole career."
jumps over spikestrips*
There's a lot of you lame unoriginals.
That's actually sounds like a good reason why cars don't have it yet.
@@supercruiser4925 we’re just trying to have fun
@@supercruiser4925 That’s exactly what i was thinking. If you do not have anything original in mind, do not post the comment and for god sakes, do not try to be “funny” under literally every video to compensate the following: no friends, no family, dead dog etc.
Too heavy and too expensive? Still u can use it with Rolls Royce.
Adromedox which one?
Adromedox oh ok thanks
Magnetic suspension has been available in a production car since 2004 (2003 build date) it was only available in the Cadillac XLR then available in others a several years later (MagneRide gen2) as an option
I drove a XLR .. The ride was not always super smooth aka Phantom bumps in the road, and if the suspension bottomed out it made a loud noise..... it put heavy ware on the other suspension components i.e tie rods steering rack which cost more $$$$$ to replace.
it was then offered in the Tahoe LTz / GMC Yukon Denali 2015 model... it's 400-500$ for each shock when they break..
it was really nice at higher speeds well over 120MPH though on the 210 freeway
Adromedox that’s air suspension...
@@punker4Real Ah ah ah. The Cadillac MagneRide is totally different from the Bose setup. The Cadillac actively changes the damping ratio in the shock absorbers only. While the Bose is essentially floating on electromagnets that they can increase or decrease the power to change the spring rate thus lifting and lowering the car over the bumps and dips to keep the car body dynamically level.
when you turn down the game physics
More like , when you understand how actually physics works ;)
GTA IV physics vs GTA V’s lol
@@aymidin we've got mister smart over here
Go drink some more electrolytes
Wayyyyyyyy down.
Hahaha the car physics on the Bose suspension looks like shitty physics in a video game.
suspension is going to get so advanced that shitty physics becomes the most correct representation of real life
Elizabeth E Have you seen those self stabilizing electric motorcycles?
Elizabeth E lmao
Damjan Cvetkov-Dimitrov Like GTA V LMAO
Bose's suspension is to conventional suspension, as GTA III is to GTA IV
Take all mah money...
Plot twist : He's a poor guy.
Nope, they are useless
@@barunaartsanjaya wdym?
Me want to
Give it here
Imagine all that research and it’s gets converted into trucker seats
and now the trucks are losing their drivers... driverless trucks.
@@tangokaleidos1926 no, i think AI technology cant change human insthing
@@anassidiq driverless trucks are a reality regardless of what you think. AI is replacing drivers. It is a fact.
@@anassidiq human instinct and human stupidity are often the cause of road accidents
Murica
It's just a young suspension who hasn't learned physics yet. Calm down
Aluminum spikestrip? Checkmate
Underrated
Nah it wont live long enough to see one
I've never seen suspension that makes the vehicle jump over obstacles. That is some next level stuff right there. No wonder it was deemed too impractical. That was almost unbelievable!
Seriously
This is some '82 knight rider stuff
@@t49_hornet16loved the series
Transformers* stuff!
Knight rider turbo boost 😁
I can't believe that I finally saw a suspension system that can handle speed bumps so efficiently.
Ive dreamed about bringing out this idea of a suspension, fuck bose lmao
+feduo45465 with this suspension, speed bumps will be pointless lol!
+feduo45465 Mercedes has their version of it "Magic Body Control"
+feduo45465 Citroën's hydropneumatic suspension handled speedbumps pretty great, but this is even better.
+feduo45465 I contacted Bose many years ago for this. It requires a lot of electricity. The draw on the engine's alternator would lower fuel economy ~10%. That's what really did it in.
What of speed bumps? Wouldn't this thing just fly through them?
+I Like The Train's Jeans Speed bumps actually cause more damage and injuries then they prevent
How do they know that? Do people report that they didnt have an accident?
yeah but if you went really fast you would still notice it
But your missing the big picture of frog 🐸 hopping over all those speed bumps
So what you're saying is, you would also ignore the speed limit? or in a parking lot, you would be that idiot that goes 60 mph?
_"Too heavy and too expensive"_
Translation........Car companies do not like using technology they didn't invent.
What? Bose has worked with many car companies integrating their audio system
@@armandocastro6914 Well, infotainment and vehicle itself are different stories.
they're starting to use more rudimentary versions of this.
and they emulated this using hydraulics to decent (yet much worse than this) effect
Uh, nah, think it's just too heavy and too expensive.
That’s not true at all lmao
1960: there will be flying cars in the future
2019: kind of
@raul castillo way to get laid
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@raul castillo *dude this aint tinder*
Lol that girl in your profile picture is hot af
this video was made in 2016 but ok
I would pay a lot of money to have this as an option in a car. It's astounding, and so incredibly useful!
Bobby Garrity It has been done already by Mercedes however in a different manner when Mercedes launched Magic Body Control in the 2014 S Class. It uses cameras to scan the road ahead which allows the suspension to "predict" the bumps and therefore move over it. Search Mercedes Magic Body Control.
Bobby Garrity so you mean it should be standard suspension for any vehicle with a suspension.
this is better then mercedes
SDav21
It has NOT been done in Mercedes. The magic body control doesn’t come close to what the Bose suspension does in smoothing, eliminating bumps.
@@SDav21 but the bose suspension works with magnets not like air in the s calss
This glitch still works in 2019?
Joja nah I think they patched it
Just tested in 2020, instructions unclear, ended up flying like Mary Poppins
@@aidaspida70 Just a spoon full of blinker fluid bring the car back down
it was fixed with 2020 update
@@GameRusher1234 The creators are thinking of bringing the glitch back, ever since the backlash from the fans. I think sometime around that 2030 update they've been teasing.
Too heavy and too expensive????? What a lame excuse! What's the REAL reason? Since when is a top of the class Mercedes s class or rolls Royce too heavy or too expensive? I don't buy that nonsense for a minute. This could have been implemented in a luxury car and their buyers would have been more than willing to pay the price of entry.
Real excuse was it was too good and they wanted us to have these shit shocks we have now which need replaced every so often... 👎👎
The real reason would be too hard to maintain
I agree, that car would be the new sensation. And I would buy that car in a heartbeat!
They show only large bumps on relatively low speed, when unsprung masses don't play a role. They don't show how it works on a lot small bumps at high speed, when the wheel will start to bounce.
The real reason is the suspension and tire business would go out of business. They made some backroom deals and paid a hefty sum if Bose would shelve this secret technology. Thus is the world in which we live.
We dont need an ipad on dashboard we need better suspension that keeps us alive
+Berat Berk Çeki Are you implying that speedbumps kill people?
+Nachtigall Okay let's say you are doing with 60 and you didn't see the speedbump and there is a person after it you couldn't be able to stop because you are in the middle of air going to space but there is a fuel leak so you blew up and everyone died because you ate an apple.
Berat Berk Çeki
I see your point
+Berat Berk Çeki LMAO!
+Berat Berk Çeki
...*but I can't play **_Fruit Ninja_** on a better suspension*.
I've read an article about this that said it was considered for ambulances as well as luxury coaches. Speculation on reasons for it not working out included constant high power draw (as it's active it requires current for every oscillation) and also the impact of a power failure, which would presumably result in the unit completely collapsing unless it also were combined with a conventional spring
Those are 2 very good points. Constant power draw would require upgraded alternator as well as battery making it more expensive on that end, and then on top of that for safety purposes you now also need another suspension incase the power ever stops. A very cool and usefull technology but our battery and power generating tech hasnt caught up to it
@@thespexks2565 also note that speedbumps would be useless if used in common cars, many people hate speedbumps but they are really important for keeping traffic safe
Buses could too
@@thespexks2565 the first issue is not that big an issue for electric cars
@@Dicaso9going over a speed bump at 30 mph is still gonna do damage to your car doesn’t matter what the suspension is. U just won’t feel it, but ur gonna have to slow down a lot to avoid damaging ur car
LOL ITS LIKE GTA V versus GTA IV :D
finally someone notices this
Thijs Rikkerink its realistic
AHAH
@@thijsrikkerink6333 you think realistic suspension is weird? I'm pretty sure you're a stupid 10 year old
@@satanas6740 Your pretty sureness is not true then, because i was twelve when i reacted then. But i get your point. I interested into cars alot more because my dad has a car workshop. So i know that its like that. Thanks for your comment although it could have been nicer. Have a nice day! ;)
That car must be a one of a kind car for being the only car with the most comfortable suspension. I wished they'd make more cars like that
There is more than one of the Bose suspension LS400s.
Police chase? Just jump right over the spike strip!
@@doohickey-enjoyerin commercial cars he could just disable them
obviously theres only going to be one car thats the most comfortable lmao
I thought that's y they cancelled it lol
@MrBlueRBLX
It's so weird and satisfying to look at. That's some great innovation tho.
This suspension is really impressive and it's a shame that it never took off. It would be perfect for high end luxury cars such as the one they actually tested the suspension on.
Cars could still go thro speed bumps at any speed, thats why this project didnt go thro
Still better than clear-motion
You have ABC and E ABC in Mercedes cars.
they do sell this technology ..for truck seats ...it's a shame we can't have it in a car even if it's an option
@@Djordjeblrs Not the same.
That was amazing.. But maybe spend some of the R&D money lowering the price of the speakers ;)
i think you miss the point of RnD
TestedMATTIA Don't think so, two companies I've worked for both used money from research and development to improve AND lower the cost of existing products.
i didn't say spend ALL the money from R&D on lowering the costs.
+Dieter Rust True. Do we not develop machines to replace expensive labor costs? Of course we do.
+Dieter Rust The main point of owning expensive speakers is being able to say you own expensive speakers. Many well-made more affordably-priced speakers deliver the same quality, but nobody will be as impressed by them as they will be by speakers that come with a high sticker price.
+Dieter Rust Bose speakers don't really cost much to make.
That is still the worlds best suspension ever built period I have been trying for months to get venture funding license the intellectual property from clear motion and restart the project