Reacting to Epic the Musical (Ocean & Circe Saga)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ย. 2024
- How's it going everyone! I hope you are excited as i am as we enter the next 2 sagas in this video. I already caught up in the live stream and the 2nd video should be up sometime next week. Please give love to all the original artist and especially to the creator of Epic the Musical Jorge Rivera-Herrans! if you enjoyed this video please hit the Like & Subscribe button below. Feel free to comment down below and we can chat about the ride that is Epic the Musical! I'll see yall in the next video!
Haven't seen anyone else clarify, but the reason Odysseus was so excited and why he trusted him, is because Hermes is FAMOUS in Greek Mythology for being a no strings attached kinda guy. He'll show up and give you help without asking for anything in return because hes a Chaotic guy who finds it entertaining. He is BY FAR the most helpful god who will give heroes the help they need
@@bradleybarnett1469 Oh good to know! 😯
@ThatOneGuyPlays yeah! Also, don't know if Odysseus knows, but Hermes is also his grandfather in the original story lol
@@bradleybarnett1469 😦 huh? (I'm getting the audio book cause WHAT! 😂)
Funniest part about the guy who dies at Circe's island btw: he had a planned line in the next song "The Underworld", but Jorge ultimately decided to cut it, so in-story AND outside of the story, he is forgotten. His name is Elpenor.
@@TheLeafcuter Pour one out for the Homie who Partied till he LITERALLY Dropped! 😂
@@ThatOneGuyPlays
The actual cut song was released too and I swear, within hours of it being dropped, people already made animatics for it. That one's for Elpenor and I think there's another cut song that was released for Perimedes. Both are insanely hilarious! 😂
@@sleepy_existence There's also another one with Elpenor and Odysseus on the island of the lotus eaters when Perimedes ate the lotus fruit.
“See, he handled this really well. Didn’t cross any boundaries, and they-.”
TH-cam spoilers- “Oh, you thought.”
@@icemagiciangh Bro the "Mutiny" Spoiler! From TH-cam Algorithm 🤣
@@ThatOneGuyPlaysit sadly be like that sometimes
Also…
36:40 … it appears I have been called out 😂
Wet Hades strikes again.
Wet Hades and Divine Sugar Mama shall spread to every chat 😂
Fun fact: I think the reason Anniflamma drew Circe like that, with the sun symbols on her jewelry and the fins, is because in mythology Circe was a daughter of the sun god Helios and an Oceanid nymph, meaning her grandfather was the ocean itself; the titan Oceanus. I imagine Anni was trying to represent her heritage in subtle ways, which I always thought was a fantastic touch 😊
Also, the fight between the cyclops and the chimera(?) is canonical! Jorge, the creator, has said that is how he envisioned the fight :)
@@tsukihimeyfan Oh Cool! 😯
“Poseidon: “Odysseus of Ithaca! Do you know who I am?”
Chorus: “Poseidon! Poseidon! Poseidon! Poseidon!”
Odysseus: “……Posei-“
Poseidon: “Yes, yes, yes. It’s a rhetorical question, jsckass. Ahem…I’ve been so gracious…”
@@nothri 😂🤣😂🤣
Thing is. Luck Runs Out isn't just a second talking back to a captain. He's also publicly doubting a decorated war general, his brother-in-law, and his KING.
to be honest, that is also part of his job - to question if what he does is right, and also, to serve as connection between him and crew. Eurylochus did as much encourage crew to doubt speaking publicly as he made known to Ody they were already doubting. Crew felt "everything changed since Polites", and Eurylochus, being voice of crew, conveyed that
@@danylonazarov Yes, but you don't do it publicly. You pull him aside and go hey, so here's the talk. You've got to do something to make the men feel better. Eury opening the door there as much invited the men to go hey, if the second in command thinks Ody is slipping...
@@ivysylvan yeah, but Ody was in the middle of commiting to another of his recless plans, which last time lead to 6-7 men dying (first loses in years!), and when Eurylochus asks for explanation and expects Ody to justify it smartly, he gets "have faith friend we`ve come this far". Not all came this far. some havent. Polites havent. Instead of pointing at giant storm and asking "you have other ideas" he half-gaslight crew with "i`ve got us here", "none men died ON WAR" and etc.
It was Ody's communicating skills slipping. Or one might say wisdom LEFT him literally, idk. But crew and Eury were justified with showing little doubt, and more doubt when they didnt get explanation\affirmations they needed
@@danylonazarov I disagree. "I need you to always be devout and comply with this or we'll all die in this."
Ody knows this is a longshot, but they're out of options. They won't make it through this storm, for all that he's trying to keep the crew's spirits up. Doubt and division will only bring that on faster. Which is exactly what happened. Eury doubted, he opened the wind bag, and everyone died.
@@ivysylvan that's what he should have said to crew then. "Trust is matter of survival", instead they got "hey, trust me, worked at war and no one died there" don't mind that we recently lost men and it's on everyone's mind, because crew "remembers them")
Odysseus when he sees a blind cyclops that can still literally tell on him: "My name is Walter Hartwell White. I live at 308 Negra Arroyo Lane, Albuquerque, New Mexico, 87104-
@@icommitars0n FOR REAL THOUGH!!! 🤣
Just got to the Done For part. The first animatic (anniflamma’s) for the song was more accurate to the canon (specifically the fight where the chimera goes against the cyclops.) That was confirmed by Jorge himself to be canon in Epic. That’s why Hermes said he could “manifest a being of your creation, all you need is imagination.”
Yeah, I dunno what chat’s issue was, Anniflamma’s is frequently used on reaction playlists for a good reason
I'm sorry but that one commenter in chat icks me 💀
@@chiliiCh to me they just seem like they’re pretty young (probably a teenager).
@@liminalpsych I think I know and it has something to do with him not liking circe not look like a hot elf
@@Shaphi95 a hot elf??? 😂
Oooo one of the *very* few (if not only) reactors I’ve seen who’s *immediately* noticed “oh no, second in command questioning his captain in front of the men, no, bad, stop”. Some people get there towards the end of the song but not usually as soon as the first chorus!
Aaaand then you mention that you’re a security guard. Aha. I see why you picked up on that issue xD nice
35:40 oh she’s there already. All that piano? That’s Athena’s instrument. She’s agreeing with Poseidon.
“Any soldier who opened the bag? Execution.” 👀
@@alexispincock7409 Yeeaaahhh...I was in a mood 😂 (For real though, they couldn't have waited to step on their home island and then jump on him like a football celebration to check the bag after 😩🤣)
@ThatOneGuyPlays
I actually think it was good they opened the bag cuz Poseidon would attack th3m the moment they landed home. That how petty he is.
@@terra4822 ok I don't doubt that Poseidon WOULD pull up to Ithaca because, ODYSSEOUS GAVE HIS HOME ADDRESS! but at least they would have met their families before they die. Poseidon was still at the land of the giants where he barely heard from his son of what happened.
Ironically about your distrust for Hermes, he's about the only god whom you *can* trust to do you a random good for no reason. He is the god of travelers after all, so he needs no other reason to help people who are on a journey or adventure.
(The other unconditionally good and trustworthy god, Hestia, rarely shows up in myths at all because she's goddess of hearth and home, so she doesn't have much to do with heroes. Not that I'm calling Hermes unconditionally good, but he doesn't need a reason or motivation to help besides wanting to see people have a chance at -entertaining-him- succeeding fairly.)
Fun fact. For the Hermes song, Wouldn't You Like, there is a part mixed in that is the Rick Astley's song Never Gunna Give You Up.
Hermes really just being a supportive great grand daddy to his boy Odysseus.
@@pockyhunter187 🤣Oh Wow! 🤣
Ody's consent to the whole circe thing in the odessy is at least a little iffy (if we can recognize power imbalances of male gods and women we can do it when its reversed) with the whole she can turn you into an animal if she's denied and him wanting to save his men. Hermes does tell him as much, which in itself isn't great. This can of course differ between versions but the core features remain simmilair. Not written with that intent surely, but neither where any of zues's "trysts". I do enjoy the change for the musical. And it's not "as bad" (comparing is not useful) as a certain other case for him down the line, but still def counts.
i also made a comment about that lol, he's one of the oldest tales of a male victim and people downplay it so hard
@@trystaseale3867 He really is, and it's a very important discussion to have. Regardless of written intent then, his case is still unique and very relavant, and very surpising for the time period in how blatant it is in, certain, parts. Drives me up a wall when people dissmiss it as him being unfaithful
Anni’s version is my favorite of Done For. It’s also closer to canon in the Epic fight. She also has a great version of Ruthlessness. (And just to put this into perspective- the worst thing Odysseus could think of. The most powerful one to take on _a goddess_ is none other than the creature that killed his best friend. Take that as you will).
Anniflamma’s Ruthlessness is my absolute favorite. I hope he checks it out.
@@ShyyGaladrielshe’s so good at portraying gods. (She’s making a video for Thunder Bringer, and I’m super excited). I know it’s not close to canon Odyssey, but I actually love her Circe design. So calm and not threatening at first, then, _BAM_ , GODDESS IS IN THE HOUSE
Anniflammas Done for and the are other ways are the best animatic. Thanks for the reaction! 😊
Thank You! I'm having a fun time Reacting to this series 😊
1:10:03, I'm not being a hater but that's really victim blaming, in the original Odysseus was forced to sleep with her by Hermes, so he wasn't consenting. He did stay on the island for a few years but he also has seen men die and he is stressed and mourning but he never cheated. He was r-worded. He was also completely honest with his wife and she understood and forgave him.
@@trystaseale3867 ohhhh 😶. Glad in this version he simply said no and Circies complied.
6:30 Zeus is the god of lightning and thunderstorms over land. Posiden is the god of storms over the ocean, essentially hurricanes.
@@ventusbruma1039 Ohhh Ok! That makes sense 🤔
Living blind or be dead death is the bigger mercy
@@phantomdemon1988 Depends on the Times. Warriors of Greek were alright with dying with honor on the battle field. Nowadays Soldiers will do whatever it take to make it home to their families even if they are missing limbs.
Love your reactions! And a small thing - the name of the creator/voice of Odysseus (Jorge) is pronounced hor-hey, I believe.
@@fossilmcfossilson4742 🤣 Yeah chat corrected me during the Underworld saga 🤣
31:35 Yeah, nothing good ever happens when you dox yourself to people who wanna hurt you. Especially to gods and monsters. Rookie mistake, Odysseus!! 😂
FULL SPEED AHEAD Until we find the prophet
Would love to see u do HadesTown next, it’s a great contemporary retelling of another Greek myth
@@Rcmkney23 I Will put it on the list of things to react to next 😉
your reactions are very fun so far, glad you’re doing it!
@@katj1296 😁Thank You! Glad you Enjoyed!
Eurylochus' doubting starts at the beginning of the Ocean Saga, with "Storm" notice how _everything_ he says is him disagreeing in some way with Odysseus
"Captain we will capsize/our fleet will fail"
"We're taking too much damage"
"At this rate we wont make it out alive"
Its much more noticable in "Luck Runs Out" because he _confronts_ Odysseus, but the problems did not start there
(Tho to be fair to Eurylochus, Odysseus _was_ being reckless with that storm & he _refuses_ to listen to Eurylochus' concerns, just tells him to shut up & fall in line)
Nothing against that other artist, but I'm sorry, their Done For doesn't hold a candle to Anniflamma's
Both in terms of animation (the anatomy, the scale, "camera" angles, movement/flow of the animation)
AND in terms of _interpretation_
Circe is POWERFUL, she's a minor goddess, daughter of a _Titan_ & Anniflama's Circe exudes _power_ (also her fight scene is accurate to what Jorge intended)
I also prefer Anniflama's version of "Other Ways" because it shows how forceful shes being (there's a _reason_ Hermes in the Odyssey _warns _ Odysseus not to deny her advances)
You should check out Anniflama's "Other Ways" !
@@anaflores1960 I will put it on my watch list. The artists are amazing especially since I could never draw that well let alone animate, but yeah I understand the idea of liking a specific artist more than another 😄
I love when people breakdown stuff always nice to see, again great reaction wish there was no chat tho lol
This was such an incredible reaction! I love Epic so much and your insights were awesome! Thank you for this!
@@hindymarkowitz1340 Thank You! Glad you Enjoyed 😁
Just as a little tip: Maybe change your style of thumbnail! I almost didn't click on it, because I thought it were just the two sagas, I had to read the title to register it was a reaction. If you make your face on the thumbnail bigger, it will probably get more people to click on it, since everyone will immediately see that it's a reaction. Other than that, i really love your way of reacting to everything! You go so much in depth on every song and understand everything that happens very well, becauseyou also notice the little things in the music/animatics! Keep it up!😄
@@anirac1506 still working on how to implement the green screen so I'll try but probably won't be soon 😅
People make a big deal out of 12 vs 10 years but they have been travelling since the war some amount of time. At least a few weeks based on in song references. It's not unreasonable that it might be closer to a year or two of wandering with some of it not covered in the songs.
Thank you for being one of the few people who understand that having the 2IC publicly questioning the captain is not okay and a recipe for disaster!! Not nearly enough people share that view, and i despair every time someone says, "yEaH, TelL hIM EurYloCHuS"💀
The Betrayal of the Bag is the fucking worst
"i stopped this 20 secs in cause i didn't like the design of Circe" 😭😭?????????????? so shallow....
@@fothorso But now you get to see the full thing with Multiple WINIONS! 🥰
@@ThatOneGuyPlays ?????
Please read this comment!
When you get to the song “Suffering” Dont watch the animatic!
Please please please! Im beggin you! Start by listening to the song without the animatic, then the first 20 seconds of the next song without the animatic and then you can go directly back and watch the animatic. Please… 😭😭😭
I really hope you do this, cause its such a spoiler. Just your first listen. Please! Have the same expirence as the rest of us! Please! 🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭
@@malenejensen02 😅 About that...I kinda already caught up to the end of Thunder Saga during this stream. It was just to long of a video that I decided to split it up. My Underworld and Thunder saga reaction is coming out Friday 😅 Sorry.
Oh, if youre willing to watch more than 1 version of the animatics I 100% recommend
Wolfythewitch's "Just a Man"
Mircsy's "My Goodbye"
Mircsy's "Keep Your Friends Close"
Anniflamma's "Ruthlessness"
Neal Illustrator's "Ruthlessness"
Anniflamma's "Other Ways"
Falperio05's "Underworld"
These are all _excellent_ takes on the songs + you'll gain so much extra appreciation for the lyrics the 2nd time around
@@audreyii6750 I'll keep them in mind for the next reaction 😉
Glad to see you reacting to more Epic! I really enjoyed your reactions and I’m looking forward to more, your takes are really interesting 😁
@@Dawn-qi5er Thanks 😁 the Underworld & Thunder saga comes out next week!
@@ThatOneGuyPlays Can’t wait! You’re one of my favorite reactors at the moment. A new saga (the wisdom saga) comes out August 30th. I hope to see your reaction to it!
By the by, idk if anyone has told you before, but with the backing vocals the musical works with a kind of rule, I forget what it's called by basically every single voice that sings has to be present in-world except for the gods, they're the only ones that can produce their own backup vocals on command out of thin air, for humans there have to other people singing for them to have those extra vocals xD
I watch so many reactions I'm not sure I commented before. But welcome to the winion group!
@@leadingblind1629 In Winion: "Welcome! 😊"
1/02:34 I agree with what you’re saying but two things. Ody was arrogant enough to reveal his name when he thought he had the upper hand, and that was when he wasn’t riding on off the god weed (interpret that however you want :) ). Also and giving Ody more credit on this one- he doesn’t want to clash with another goddess if he can help it. Ideally if he can keep her off guard and guessing just how dangerous he is he can avoid a direct confrontation. If she thinks he’s more than a man and gets intimidated that’s an advantage for him. The fact she is intelligent enough to call his bluff and see through the ruse immediately from a storytelling perspective tells us a few important things- mostly that this is not a being like the Cyclops he can outsmart but also she isn’t a creature like Poseidon who can easily overwhelm him. She is AS intelligent as he is, no more and no less. The song does a superb job of establishing in every way that they are equals in this fight, each batting aside the others bluffs before both harmonizing and attacking. One of my favorite songs in a great saga.
I love your reactions so far please keep doing this. You’re getting a new subscriber and like.
Oh, I already subscribed since the first reaction to the epic with the Troy Saga and Cyclops Saga.
There is still underworld, saga and thunder, saga, and plus wisdom saga comes out this month on August 30 though it is only the audio you would have to wait a little bit for animatics
@@alexeysimushov4971 I'll leave it up to the viewers if they care if I react to the Songs only or if I should wait for the animatics 😉 Thanks for the Subscription and Like 😁
About you’re many views: Yeah… Be happy there isn’t that many reacting to it yet. We (the Epic fandom) is seeking every single bit and drop of epic content we can get! 😈
But also your reactions are great! (Well I haven’t watched this video yet, let me go do that, then I’ll come back here again)
Jorge (Jay) is amazing! Trust me! We are suporting him! He wrote all the lyrics and music himself, except he had help with the mixing from JP Warner, and a producer I think? Maybe that was also JP. Dont remember. It's two years ago I saw those tiktoks okay!
“That is a great plan! …if you stil had a goddess friend…” LOL 😂🤣😂🤣
17:07 🤣
26:37 He litterally was! 😭 It’s written in the oddessey that Penelope looked out on the sea and saw a big storm in the distance. The storm Oddesseus were in 😭😭😭
28:00 😂 Kill them all!
30:30 “Poseiden is comming in like a boss battle” Funny you say that 😂 Cause Jay litterally descripes that.
38:25 “Jorge Rivera-Herrans” pronounced: “Hor-hey”
38:48 Someone dies at Circe’s island
Watch this video to get it. Its a Cut song. YOU HAVE TO WATCH IT! Well… There’s a lot of cut songs you should watch… Actually can we do a video on that?! Its all small snippets. Want a list?
But this is the story of Elpenor:
th-cam.com/video/TGSFiGKR9F8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QXHye00hX9l9Gstr
Now im done with the video! Great reaction! Really enjoyed it! Very much looking forward to the next video!
Sidenote:
Im really happy with the playlist you're watching, these are deffinitely the best animatics out there, some songs have fewer animatics (e.i. Storm only have that one animatic) but some songs deffinitely also have a lot too choose from.
A couple of things to end my comment.
1. The first two saga's have been rerecorded, so they sound a little different, than what you have been reacting to. Its the same instuments and lyrics, but the way some lines are said is different (personally I liked the old versions better, but oh well) the reason for this, is some leagal issues. Jorge was not being paid for the royalties for the first two saga's (Some people screw him over, OH WAIT, thats the producer! Right! Blair Russel I think. F*ck that dude. Anyway, so he went against the system, GO JORGE! 😆And then he made his own company "Winion entertainment", and released the other saga's and now the rerecorded once, under there.
Also GO Teagan, GO Steven, GO Armando, GO Luke and everyone else who came back to rerecord their songs)
2. Oh yeez... Dont remember...
3. The next saga comes out already the 30'th! Its going REALLY fast this year. I was there from the beggining when the first saga was released, December 25'th 2022, the second came quickly after, late january, but then we had to wait untill december 25'th again! 2023. Almost a year for The Ocean saga! A YEAR! anyway, now we have, the circe saga (feb 14'th), The underworld saga (April 26'th) and The Thunder saga (july 4'th)
See a patern? Holidays. But now we're breaking it.
August 30'th baby! "The wisdom saga"
That was a lot of text... Hope you read my comment anyway 😅🤞
@@malenejensen02 Thanks for the Excitement! 😂 I'm just glad people enjoy the reactions. Idk what will happen when the series ends and I react to other things after epic 🤔
Btw Penelope's instrument is specifically the viola, not the violin, idk if you know the difference by ear, but it's an important distinction to make if you do
Also rip for the spoilers
@@Epicdragon-vn6hu Oh!? I'll have to look for the difference between the 2 instruments 😯 (Yeah the spoilers were brutal at some points....buuuut they were funny 🤣)
Honestly Athena wasn't right. The only reason that killing someone is brought up so heavily is because back then in Greece killing dying in battle is very honorable and killing people is the correct thing to get glory.
This is also why i dont like Athena at this point (i know where the story goes but wont say) she didnt care about Odysseus (evan if she did she still easily abandoned him after a mistake that she caused).
She wants a hero, she wants the glory that Odysseus can give her. Thats why she wanted him to kill the Cyclops. You said it yourself if he didnt tell the cyclops his name there is no threat as he couldn't tell Poseidon. So Athenas line in Remember them is wrong "he's still a threat until he's dead".
@@Zufallige.Eidechse.auf.Felsen Almost all (if not all) the Greek gods were out for themselves so that doesn't surprise me. I just think it would be a cool story if she did care but couldn't show it because of her position as a godess
@@ThatOneGuyPlays less that she couldn't as God's in the myths have been known to care for mortals on occasions (like the case of Poseidon and Pelops) its more her own stubbornness that prevents her.
Nice reactions! When u do react to the Underworld saga, I reccomend Ximena's No Linger You Animatic, it's my favorite honestly.
Dude. Circre is overreacting but its because other travelers hurt her family - she went full nope afterwards.
Ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves of course - you have to be brave to be kind
Again for the people at the back; Being ruthless is safe, being kind is brave
@@aquakittykat That is true, but it's a risk not many are willing to take especially when Family or Loved ones are the cost of that risk. Remember Eurilicus wanted to just raid the island with the Winions. It's just a risk for any adventure
Loving your reactions man!! Love your videos!!
@@chelseabrown3533 Thank You! 😁 Glad you Enjoyed!
Nice stream, pleasure to be there
@@Frostoad Hey Frostoad! Thanks for being there! 😁
I like your commentary
@@MewDenise Thank You 😊
Oh you're reactions are great and its actually amazing that you actually know some of the mythology so you can peice together whats happening if your confused i get so annoyed when i watch a reaction and they get an answer to their question that is just completely wrong
@@yourstruely7005 Thank You! I'm glad my Nerdom was able to make the reaction more enjoyable to watch 😂
Glad you came back, new sub now! Love your Epic reactions!
In the Odyssey, it is a "floating"
In the sky? or On the sea? Interpretation is a funny thing?
@@risperdude Thank you for the Sub ☺
Odysseus did not exactly have a choice in the original story... kinda victim blamey to say the powerful witch/goddess holding him there was someone he could say no to.
The Wind gods are... what can I say like the mercurial winds?
Pero si el animatic de anniflamma es muy bueno!!! Que lástima 😢 aparte de eso, me gustaron las reacciones 😂
Thanks my dude! I will be reacting to Multiple animatics on the series next monday
3:27 ….. Wet Polites? 😅
@@liminalpsych my brain takes it's time sometimes 🤣
don't forget to like
@@sierradavis9826 What they Said! 😂