What does the Alex Caruso trade signal for Bulls' future? | Parkins & Spiegel
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ย. 2024
- On the Parkins & Spiegel Show, Sun-Times reporter Joe Cowley broke down the Bulls' trade of veteran guard Alex Caruso to the Thunder in exchange for young guard Josh Giddey. Are the Bulls trying to make sure they retain their first-round pick in the 2025 NBA Draft? The Bulls owe the Spurs a first-round pick then, but it's top 10-protected.
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Giddey will not be used the same way that was used in OKC so .... the liability of him being spaced in the corner isn't even a viable concern because he will have the ball in his hands in Chicago.
I think he's a good fit for us
Never thought it could get worse than Gar-Pax until AK said “hold my beer!”
It’s all Reinsdorf. He controls everyone.
Thanks 😂💯. I've been following Chicago Sports for 50 + and A.K. is the worst F.O. hire I've seen. No ideas, No Charisma and No Hope for the Future. The Bulls have it slammed into reverse with the Accelerator buried into the floor 😬
Every year for the Bulls is a year where the team takes a step back
Giddey has no baggage... just let him play
😢Alex Coruso
10.1 points
3.8 rebounds
3.5 assist
😂Josh Giddy
12.3 points
6.4 rebounds
4.8 assist
🔥 Great Trade 🔥
I would rather some 1st Round picks. I'll give AK begrudging credit for getting up long enough to actually do something, but doing all this without getting a 1st Rd pick from OKC, who is drowning in them, is a little bewildering.
Giddy at 21 yrs old is essentially a draft pick he’d go top 3 this year
I have a bad feeling this is going to get even worse. I don't think this is what people think it is. I don't think this is the start of the rebuild we all know we need. I think our front office believes they just got the next Lonzo Ball. The missing piece. I definitely think we look to trade Lavine but I don't think it's going to be for picks or for even another young player. I think we are looking to get a veteran defensive big, like a Clint Capella. We will attempt to overpay for Derozan and we will look to make the playoffs again next season. He will have to choose between us, for a much bigger contract, or go for a championship somewhere else. Maybe he will accidentally do us a favor and choose the championship. But I think we are STILL shooting for the sweet sweet play in.
I pray I'm wrong and this is a sign of us accepting that we aren't good enough to contend so we have to rebuild. Even though I really didn't like this trade... If it means we are actually committing to a rebuild then I think it's ultimately a good thing. But I think history will show that the Bulls front office is always going to be delusional enough to somehow make things worse.
@@TwistYourDreams No he wouldn't. Did you watch him this season? He was left wide open and was afraid to shoot 3s. He was awful. I will admit I would have loved this trade 3 years ago but Giddey has REGRESSED since his rookie year. We should have gotten more in return. This trade was horrible and I've been wanting us to rebuild for years so I WANTED us to trade away Caruso.
@@odonnellcaleb even if Giddey regressed, that's how bad this draft is. Did you know Derrick White was rated more valuable than the 1st overall pick? That's how bad this draft is. The actual draft to target is 25'
@@794edgar Derrick White is 10x better than Giddey. If you're acting like Derrick White is just some dude then I know you have some questionable judgement. They said the 2020 draft class was really weak. Anthony Edwards, Lamelo Ball, Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassel, Tyrese Maxey, Jaden McDaniels, and Desmond Bane all went in that draft class.
Giddey needs a new contract. We are going to have to PAY him. This was one of the dumbest trades I've ever seen.
There's a whole bunch of players in this draft whose upside I would rather have than Giddey.
What does this trade signal for the bulls future? Not a damn thing, Bulls will only win 42 games for the next 5 years, this organization sucks.
None of this matters as long as jerry is alive
@irish6783 Michael runs the show now, and it's just as bad. It'll never end.
@@wilfredberqvist9096 you don’t think Jerry has influence on Michael?
@@irish6783 And you think it'll change when Jerry dies? Do you realize how great the Bulls are for the pockets of the Reinsdorfs? Why would he change a thing?
@@wilfredberqvist9096 at least there’s a chance Michael will listen to his front office when his dads not around.
Trash front office.
AK has lost his marbles. 🤦♂️ Couldn't get at least one 1st round pick in addition to Giddey? Well, to put it mildly, as a Bulls fan I'm not giddy about getting Giddey! 🤷♂️
the disrespect on Giddey lmao
I love giddy...this was a down year...last season he was initiating rebounding...dude literally a Luka light
@@rodneyharvey8938😂😂😂you lost your mind !!! He not in Luka Galaxy FOH 😂
Bulls and soxs the worst franchise in sports and it’s sad
Same owner for both too
I would say at least the Sox have a direction, the bulls don’t know what to do
@@monsi8536 the owner is cheap and hire friends with no experience he is the worst owner ever in the history of Chicago sports
Jerry is a parasite
@@monsi8536the sox direction is south to Nashville
Bulls FO: can you include the 2025 pick?
OKC GM: no but we'll give you our 2024 pick
bulls FO: na this draft isn't that good we'll just take giddy 😂
Idiots should have got giddey plus a pick. OKC has 9 first over next 3 years. They can't even use all those picks
Na it was more like can we get a pick and giddey and they said...we don't want to trade giddey, he wants a trade cause he's not a bench player...can we get some picks you're trading a back up free agent signing due for a new contract...bulls said, nevermind deal let's go
Giddey went 6th in 2021 as a 19 year old. Look up who went ahead of him. A 19 year old Giddey would be in consideration for the #1 overall pick in this draft.
Giddey is solid it’s long term a good move for Chicago. No shot okc was adding picks giving up Giddey for Caruso
It signals no hope of ever playing defense...
the comments the overaction is wild mike wilbon has the best most logical take this take is great as well
It's not an overreaction. Wilbon has to live in Chicago. He won't cross the reinsdorf's any more than anyone else in sports media. This trade was complete garbage. Full stop.
@@eyeofagamatto3821 DID YOU EVEN HEAR WILBONS REACTION LMAOOOO
I think even bringing up something that has no evidence of any wrong doing is a totally wrong by you, he was cleared of any wrong doing , your not guilty just being accused , your guilty based on evidence which they never had any . Shame on you guys
As if they didn't have enough guards. Caruso's inability to stay on the floor at all or not hobbled seem to be a given and must be included in any calculation about him. On both sides but since the Bull's aren't going to win why not have a guy who is fun to watch and the fans love.
Alex Caruso is definitely in line for a head Coaching job when he's ready.
joe cowely didnt make sense in the beginning, the bulls protection for spurs pick is top 10 then top 8 the next 2 years, not top 14 lol
Just a simple mix up with the Portland pick which is top 14 protected
lol moved away for a few years and they are still bringing Joe Cowley out lmfao
Josh's alleged indiscretions create so much angst yet the person who was the last POTUS is immeasurably worse yet his any failings don't seem to disqualify him from running for office again....
America is a country of so many contradictions....
Josh will do well, just watch and see.
🤦♂️ no draft picks. Still can't believe it.
I bet Billy Donovan wishing he was in the rebuild in okc know.
If you do this you have to u load vuchovic, either derozan or Levine, if your going to get younger get younger, admit your choice of getting older a few years ago failed, then move forward….he sold the future of the bulls three yrs ago or so……
the bulls went with vets and then didn’t pull the trigger on kyrie. so dumb.
Good for Caruso getting a chance to win again! Bad for Giddey, the young girls in Chicago can run laps around the girls in OKC!
OKC holds prayers before game, what does that mean? Does that make them more moral? That suppose to mean they did a real deep investigation? Give me a break!
Obviously it was enough for the Bulls lol
@@Mr.Byrnes Well bulls are dysfunctional
What is the problem with prayer…yikes!
@@mjcharb4283 I didn't say prayer is a problem, I'm saying this guy on the radio saying the thunder pray before the games as if by praying somehow if Giddy was guilty they would do the right thing, as If they somehow different than the other franchises who's goal is to make money, comprehend come on.
Good content!!
Cody should ask for a trade now 💯
Caruso and Derozan (sp) epitomized the Jordan Bulls culture. Without them, what's left? Who will carry the mantra: it's all about winning? Zachman is all about money me, money me, money me.
The biggest problem with Bulls fans is that they always live in the past...we should've...we could've...not understanding that anything can happen nothing is guaranteed and most importantly you were not in the room listening to these trades they could be embellishing the value that was there anyway just sit back and cheer.
Cowley is right. It's a good move if the intention is to tank. Ideal scenario is Giddey has a bounce back breakout years in 2025 and the Bulls still tank to get within a top 10 pick (anything 11 and up goes to SAS). Then they come back in 2026 with that top 10 pick + a more confident Giddey + a rebuilt Lonzo + Coby + whatever AKME was able to get for Demar, Lavine, and Vuc.
Lonzo is not a part of the long-term picture.
"A guy who comes with some baggage" really.
Feels like we been rebuilding since D.Rose and Jimmy left! How do people still have jobs!! 🤦🏾♂️
What it signals to me is we are the worst run team in the league. I have WANTED us to blow this roster up for 2-3 years now. We wasted most of the value our vets had. Now that their value is the lowest it could possibly be we trade our best asset for a player who was just exposed in the playoffs, was being left wide open, and had a whole bunch of off the court problems.
I would be shocked if we didn't have at least 5 better offers on the table. Even though this is supposed to signal a rebuild starting. I don't think thats what this is. I'm terrified that this is a retooling and our front office believes that if we can get our next Lonzo (who is not as good as Lonzo was before his injury, not even close) and we move Zach to get a defensive big, we can still compete for a playoff spot.
We could have gotten draft picks. This off season is going to be disastrous.
Maybe I'm wrong... maybe they actually are FINALLY starting the rebuild 2 years too late. I doubt it, but MAYBE. I doubt it though, and even if we are this was an awful way to kick it off. If this is what we got for Caruso we are getting a couple vending machines for whoever else we trade away.
Agreed our best asset for a young prospect former lottery player who fell out of their rotation? Wow this management sucks ass! It’s simple if I’m the Bulls I say NO! Not until you give us back draft capital period! Furthermore, pairing Alex with Zach would have brought more back and got more draft capital!
Another thing that is maddening is watching so many former Bulls from the wasted Jim Boylen era contribute with their new teams (most cases in the playoffs) the past 2-3 years years -> Markkanen, Strus, Gafford, Cam Payne, Wendell Carter Jr). Jim Boylen really wasted those years where they had nothing to play for but at least could have developed a team and not just the Zach Lavine show.
@@ryansmith290 I could write an essay about Lauri. I swear on my life when everyone else turned on Lauri I was saying "I know the second we trade him he's gonna be a star". I'll be honest and say I always pictured him going to the Spurs and I thought Pop would develop him and that was a huge part of it... but I just knew it would happen. But he's exceeded even my lofty expectations for him.
I always felt like that because whenever any reporter talked to Lauri he was basically like "Please, I just want to be allowed to take other shots than 3s" "I want some touches in the post". Everyone was hating on him for being soft. All the while he's begging our coaching staff to let him be more than a finesse floor stretcher.
I don't think Patrick Williams is a future star but I'm 100% sure when he leaves us he's going to become a great piece to a winning team (sounds like OKC really wants him). Everyone hates P Will now but what opportunity have we really given him? Since he's been here he's been at best a 4th-5th option on offense.
Any successful player development has been accidental. Ayo and Coby are the bright spots on our team now. They wouldn't be getting anything over 15 mins a game if our team managed to be fully healthy. Players can't develop when every single "star" we have only brings offense to the table. Player development is not happening when the only thing our best players bring to the table is their ability to get shots up. So even the people who argued tanking wasn't a good idea because sometimes good teams find players late like Nikola Jokic. Denver had to send away a pretty good player in Nurkic to give Jokic a chance to grow. Maxey didn't shine until Harden was gone. Haliburton wasn't a superstar until he could spread his wings without Fox. You gotta make some space for young players to develop.
@@odonnellcaleb I am 100% with you on Williams. They can't give up on him. No point of trading him since he is at his lowest value as is, just need to squeeze every ounce from him unlike what they did with Lauri. I was ready to give up on Coby a couple years ago but was shocked how well he did last yr filling in for Lavine.
P-Will, Ayo, Coby, and Terry are only young players that Arturas (a.k.a Art U R Ass) has brought in during his tenure. They have nothing to lose from keep playing those guys more to see what they got while they get rid of old players and hopefully start tanking because attracting the big FA option is out of the question as usual...
@@odonnellcaleb I forgot but Bobby Portis is another example of former Boylen era Bull who benefitted from change in scenery. It is funny how Portis/Strus/Payne/Gafford all played in the last 4 Finals and were important role players lol
Demar in Philly 😮
Understand what buy low sell higher is...we bought Caruso at a really cheap price he has taught the young guys ayo dasumo pat Williams and coby white how to play defense and communicate and how to get better in weight room he's set the culture already now its time to get paid and we got younger and better probably based on the lack of playmaking we've had...all for a free agent signing that should have stayed in L.A. a win is a win
Won't Change until we have new owners for bulls n sox
Why would they go from we want to be a competitive team and don't play their best team then go the next season to basically a rebuild all about young talent?If they that bad with managing talent then throw it away for a rebuild they not worth following.
As a matter of fact Jerry should sell the team to Chicago fans we'll be owners and play the talent right when we have it ,it doesn't matter if it's a championship caliber team or a rebuild.
More mediocrity
You would know!!
Thunder fan here : A starter for OKC is worth more than just about any other player on any other team.. The success of OKC and the mediocrity of the Bulls disguises the value of this trade.. we have bench players that would be starters on the Bulls... and don't think for a second that one of OKC's starters isn't going to better than just about every other player on this Trash Bulls Team. Thx for Caruso tho.. we're glad to have him back
Bulls fan here I can agree partially. Nobody on your team aside from SGA is better than Demar as it stands. You guys do have a ton of prospects I agree and are competing for a championship next year no doubt.
So very true. Look at Tre Mann at Charlotte - couldnt get on court for OKC and had some excellent games starting for Charlotte. Win/Win this trade and I think Josh Giddey will absouletly star in a weak East conference.
R Kelly in a bulls uniform
Your ignorance is striking!
Bulls is in the great way to rebuild.....
Giddy literally a 17/7/7
So who’s on the floor.
Rosen wants out, Zack wants out,
No Drummon, no Caruso.
White, Lonzo, Giddy for PG
Stacy on the mic…. What else we got? Benny.
Caruso is overrated
There is no future
okc just lost a bright young core
Bulls robbed okc on this trade. This guy won’t even start for okc he is t good enough Smdh
Keep”3vime don’t give him away he is young enough….see if you can get a young rising star for Delmar…..love Delmar but he is getting old
Worst Franchise in the NBA. The thunder have 9 first round picks over next 3 years. How the heck can they even use / roster all these players.
Add in they are a cheap franchise, we should have gotten at least 1 first rounder even if its 2024. Come on BULLS
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