I’ve got a Marshall 1960b that I’ve had since 2003, didn’t know much about celestion when I bought it just knew I wanted a Marshall cab, turns out it has the g12-75ts. Last year I started building 2x12 cabs and I went with a v30 mixed with a celestion cream back h wired to 8 ohms. Love this combination.
Hello Rick thank you for making this video! I, like yourself prefer by far the G12-75s over the Vintage 30s for the exact same reason you mentioned, I simply find the V30s shrill and not as full sounding. So I'm we'll both get flamed for it but I have your back! 🙂
I got a jcm900 cab for 50 bucks from a dude on buy swap sell. It had t75 for all four speakers but two of the four had slipped magnets causing the voice coils to be stuck. I installed two v30 speakers to replace them and configured them in an X shape. It's a great stereo or mono cab switchable at the back. Great for mic'ing options. Digging the channel too Rick, hope all is well mate.
Cool Liam. You scored! the JCM800 1960A cab I have is a friend's on permanent loan. I picked up the 1960 AV recently for $400 and thought was a good deal. Going great here dude.
The Marshall vintage speaker is a vintage 30 but it has an alerted EQ curve that is proprietary to Marshall and the Marshal version is 70 watts its just like how the Mesa V30s are a Mesa propriety version. Also the Marshall vintage speaker came before the standard production V30 . The Marshall Versiom was designed specifically for the silver jubilee. The speaker was very popular so they made a standard production model. with an altered EQ curve The specs and materials are extremely close but they had to be altered slightly as the original was proprietary to Marshall. They also sound quite close with the Marshall versions being a little warmer and the upper mids being rolled back slightly. Its not really debatable whether they are very close to the same speaker. It's factually true.
@@RickHollis yeah both great. I just got the vintage Marshall cab after using 75’s for a while. Both are good in their own way. 75’s are definitely smoother scooped and the vintage g12’s cut through more
The combination of the both sound awesome! My favorite speaker combination so far is v30 with a creamback 65 rather than a t75. The 1960a looked a lot older than the AV cab, so how new was the AV? Were the speakers broken in yet? I just wanna know if the harshness will be a little more tamed than that since I plan to buy the same cab soon. Thanks for the great comparison!
What speakers are in the AV cab? Have you ever looked? Marshall website states Celestion G12 Vintage. Celestion doesn't make a G12 Vintage. They make the G12 Vintage 30 and the G12 Century Vintage. Have an Engl 2x12 with v30's. Looking for something else.
@Rick Hollis, loved the comparison and the combo sounds great together. Did you keep the cabs with two of each speaker? Did you make a new video with those cabs? I have the same dilemma and would like to hear them combined in one cab before I make the switch. Thanks!
Yep. I kept both cabs with 2 of each speaker for a stereo pair. I’ll be making a bunch more demos soon and will try to include the sound of one cab mic’d on both kind of speakers, blended.
Great video! Do you think you’d have the same experience if the 4x12 cab had two of each speaker? I’ve been reading this is a great option but would love your opinion. Thanks!
Man that sounded great. Some of the tones reminded me of the guitar tone on Dookie. Had a straight Mills cab with V30's and played a Marshall 1960AV cab a bunch. I feel like the straight cab helps tone down the shrill vibes a bit. Or at least it's not blasting you in the face. Haha. Cheers
The thought crossed my mind at the time but went with having the brighter speakers pointed away from my head. Besides, I’m likely to forget which speaker is which in an X configuration.
Ive also got the 1960A with a Marshall 6100 30th anniversary head, if it was good enough for Satch it should be fine for me :-). Love the channel btw Rick
@@RickHollis I was literally about to drop the cash for a 1960AV today, but after watching this, I'm going to get the A. Although I think it has the newer, made in CN g12t's - yours had three of the UK versions, which sound better. Do you remember which of the speakers you miked up?
I would prefer to hear a tube amp thru the speakers and not a transistor chip as the sound is definitely not TUBE. and regardless of how good your transistor chip may be, no professional are using them instead of a tube amp for a reason.
Guitarists who used solid state amps: James Hetfield, Chuck Schuldiner, Paul Landers, Adam Jones, John Fogerty, Dimebag, Billy Gibbons, Dave Mustaine, Yngwie Malmsteen, BB King, Alan Holdsworth, Ronny Montrose, Ty Tabor, David Gilmour.... any of those professional enough for you?
Superb audio quality. Great work man!
I’ve got a Marshall 1960b that I’ve had since 2003, didn’t know much about celestion when I bought it just knew I wanted a Marshall cab, turns out it has the g12-75ts. Last year I started building 2x12 cabs and I went with a v30 mixed with a celestion cream back h wired to 8 ohms. Love this combination.
Brilliant, more, please...
Coming right up, good Sir.
I like your vídeo, right to the point from the beggining making the comparison. Great work!
beautiful combination mixing speakers
Swapping speakers was a great idea. Big props. Now you have two great cabs.
Luv and Peace.
You are craaaazy 😂 Got my 1960A today and my ears blew away 😁and you use two of them 😜👍
Ha ha! I use 2 facing slightly different directions so I don’t have to be as loud.
real informative video, thanks
Cabs combined!!! Ah my god!!!
Hello Rick thank you for making this video! I, like yourself prefer by far the G12-75s over the Vintage 30s for the exact same reason you mentioned, I simply find the V30s shrill and not as full sounding. So I'm we'll both get flamed for it but I have your back! 🙂
I got a jcm900 cab for 50 bucks from a dude on buy swap sell. It had t75 for all four speakers but two of the four had slipped magnets causing the voice coils to be stuck. I installed two v30 speakers to replace them and configured them in an X shape. It's a great stereo or mono cab switchable at the back. Great for mic'ing options. Digging the channel too Rick, hope all is well mate.
Awesome Deal Liam that X configuration is killer
Cool Liam. You scored! the JCM800 1960A cab I have is a friend's on permanent loan. I picked up the 1960 AV recently for $400 and thought was a good deal. Going great here dude.
The Marshall vintage speaker is a vintage 30 but it has an alerted EQ curve that is proprietary to Marshall and the Marshal version is 70 watts its just like how the Mesa V30s are a Mesa propriety version.
Also the Marshall vintage speaker came before the standard production V30 . The Marshall Versiom was designed specifically for the silver jubilee. The speaker was very popular so they made a standard production model. with an altered EQ curve The specs and materials are extremely close but they had to be altered slightly as the original was proprietary to Marshall. They also sound quite close with the Marshall versions being a little warmer and the upper mids being rolled back slightly. Its not really debatable whether they are very close to the same speaker. It's factually true.
Great video thanks!
I used one of the cabs at a show last night for the first time. I’m very happy with the sound of the mixed speaker configuration.
@@RickHollis yeah both great. I just got the vintage Marshall cab after using 75’s for a while. Both are good in their own way. 75’s are definitely smoother scooped and the vintage g12’s cut through more
New subscriber. Digging the channel Rick . !!!
Thank you! Glad you like it :)
The combination of the both sound awesome! My favorite speaker combination so far is v30 with a creamback 65 rather than a t75. The 1960a looked a lot older than the AV cab, so how new was the AV? Were the speakers broken in yet? I just wanna know if the harshness will be a little more tamed than that since I plan to buy the same cab soon. Thanks for the great comparison!
I bought the AV cab used, but it had a metal grille across the front of it keeping it looking new. Guy I bought it off said he’d had it for 10+ years.
V30 + G12H 30 is a great combo as well.
I'll have to try that sometime.
What speakers are in the AV cab? Have you ever looked? Marshall website states Celestion G12 Vintage. Celestion doesn't make a G12 Vintage. They make the G12 Vintage 30 and the G12 Century Vintage. Have an Engl 2x12 with v30's. Looking for something else.
Celestion does/did make a G12 Vintage but they only sell/sold them to Marshall. They are a 60 watt version of a Vintage 30 (more or less).
@Rick Hollis, loved the comparison and the combo sounds great together. Did you keep the cabs with two of each speaker? Did you make a new video with those cabs? I have the same dilemma and would like to hear them combined in one cab before I make the switch.
Thanks!
Yep. I kept both cabs with 2 of each speaker for a stereo pair. I’ll be making a bunch more demos soon and will try to include the sound of one cab mic’d on both kind of speakers, blended.
You need more continuous content Rick!!
I'm working on it.
I run A DSL 2000 with a 1960 AV slant on top with a 1960 B on the bottom, it sounds good 2 me.
Great video! Do you think you’d have the same experience if the 4x12 cab had two of each speaker? I’ve been reading this is a great option but would love your opinion. Thanks!
I played a show using one of the cabs after putting 2 of each in it and it sounded fantastic. Now I have a stereo pair :)
@@RickHollis Awesome! Thank brother!
Man that sounded great. Some of the tones reminded me of the guitar tone on Dookie.
Had a straight Mills cab with V30's and played a Marshall 1960AV cab a bunch. I feel like the straight cab helps tone down the shrill vibes a bit. Or at least it's not blasting you in the face. Haha. Cheers
i guess it's kinda off topic but does anybody know of a good website to stream newly released series online ?
@Lorenzo Karter Flixportal =)
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@Lorenzo Karter Happy to help xD
I see this is 8 months old but you should try the speakers in an "x" pattern in one of the cabs.
The thought crossed my mind at the time but went with having the brighter speakers pointed away from my head. Besides, I’m likely to forget which speaker is which in an X configuration.
Ive also got the 1960A with a Marshall 6100 30th anniversary head, if it was good enough for Satch it should be fine for me :-). Love the channel btw
Rick
Thank you! I've had the 1960A here for a while and had various V30 cabs but never compared them side by side before. Now I know :)
G12t’s in my Sunn 412 straight front cab, I also run a second 1 or 2 12 cab (with cheap drivers) to add that bit of upper mid.
Cool. It's amazing the difference speaker choice makes.
Please tell me where I can get the rack unit for the fryette power station ?
I bought mine from the Fryette website.
@@RickHollis awesome thank you!
@@RickHollis you’re talking about the silver shell or head right? Whatever it’s called
Forgive me but I’m new to cabinets will a 100 watt head work with this cabinet I see one on reverb and I’m thinking bout getting the a
Yes they both will work. They cover a amazing range of sounds.
You're a nutter with good taste. Subscribed.
Luv and Peace.
Thank you Ian!
Good video fella! You have a new subscriber.
Thank you!
@@RickHollis I was literally about to drop the cash for a 1960AV today, but after watching this, I'm going to get the A. Although I think it has the newer, made in CN g12t's - yours had three of the UK versions, which sound better. Do you remember which of the speakers you miked up?
@@GuvnaOnSpotify top left of each cab which appears to be the UK version as you kindly pointed out.
@@RickHollis Fantastic, thanks. You just saved me from making a mistake. Rock on brother.
Thanks for this i much prefer the A
Sounds FUKING AWESOME 🤘🤓
A all the way
I own a 2x12 with a celestion hot100 completing a V30, awesome combination!
I never liked the Vintage 30 speakers. The G12T-75 speakers sound much better to me. I hate that high hizz sound of the V30's.
Problem is that the Vintage 30 speaker are much louder and therefore will dominate in the mix if packed into one cab.
Vintage 30s are so harsh and nasally, I never understood the hype from them
I prefer the 1960A.
the A sounds better
I would prefer to hear a tube amp thru the speakers and not a transistor chip as the sound is definitely not TUBE. and regardless of how good your transistor chip may be, no professional are using them instead of a tube amp for a reason.
Thats horse shit 🤣
Guitarists who used solid state amps: James Hetfield, Chuck Schuldiner, Paul Landers, Adam Jones, John Fogerty, Dimebag, Billy Gibbons, Dave Mustaine, Yngwie Malmsteen, BB King, Alan Holdsworth, Ronny Montrose, Ty Tabor, David Gilmour.... any of those professional enough for you?
Sounds like you don't know about Bluguitar....