I use the same configuration even my X is above the Fantom on the stand. I downloaded this video for reference though. Thoroughly explained and sometimes it’s easy to start tripping with internal and external routing. Best explained to the point video now.
I learned something new with this video. MSB and LSB will make a world of difference. I was using Looper to convert the MIDI (from my Fantom rack) to audio.
Just subbed , liked the videos i saw in the list. Im waiting for my live 2 , but that there is my dream set up. Mpc x and a roland fantom. 1 day hopefully
Using the USB driver for the Fantom is a beast too. That will give you 16 channels stereo or 32 mono to push to audio tracks. You have to have it hooked up to a computer though. The MPC hardware only picks up the midi portion if using straight USB to it . PC gets both audio and midi through the one cable. I also think you can use both the midi ports and usb too though so you can still chain your midi. If you don’t hear anything make sure you routed an audio track to the corresponding output of your channel on the Fantom too. Default is 1/2. If all else fails or confused use 1/2 on the MPC and just solo the audio you want to record.
acoustic drums on the Fantom are incredibly insipid. I would like to use the Fantom the way you described but with the MPC drums. Would you have a good way to set this up with the MPC syncing to the Fantom and recording all to the DAW? Happy New Year Y'all
@@SunlightOfTheSpirit Do a fresh power on. Don’t change any settings beforehand if you aren’t too sure what they do, because you’ll need to save after. Go to menu and then the general tab. Make sure USB driver is set to vender. Next go to the USB tab further down the menu on the left. Make sure USB audio mix/parallel is set to parallel. You have to hit the write button and do a system write to save those changes. Then reboot… Once rebooted the Fantom will give you its audio drivers. In your DAW just select the audio driver Fantom-06 07 08. Once you do that you should be able to see the midi options as well as the audio inputs in the audio channels. Keep in mind you have to make sure zones on the Fantom match to the track to where you want it to go. If you are using the MPC software or really any daw make sure you actually add the audio track too. First Fantom audio channel is 1/2, second is 3/4, third is 5/6 and so on. Make sure you don’t have the faders down on the Fantom, and arm to record you should be able to see the signals if you have input monitoring on. MPC side it’ll help if you have the MPC routed into an audio interface since you can’t have two audio drivers set as the main in your daw. You’d have to get your tracks as audio. You can route audio into the Fantom too. To do that plug your main outs or sub mix to your line in on the back of the Fantom. In the Fantom after hit menu and then effects. Click to where you see mic on the screen and that should change to line in. Also tap the bottom left to were it says audio in to enable incoming audio. At this point you probably can simply if using midi in/out to the MPC…for me I just record my Fantom to audio then switch to my audio interface to hear all hardware together. If you don’t have one thing routed into another you will only hear Fantom or only MPC. The interface bridges both. As for the midi clock I usually leave MTC 30 on in the daw. Fantom has an option in the midi tab to sync via USB or MTC 30. Don’t think it makes a difference there.
Thanks dude, I have an MPC live 2 and was meaning having this synced with the Fantom but also recording in Ableton live while playing along when I hit transport on the Fantom. Dunno if I should be usb midi to the Fantom or midi din cables?
@@SunlightOfTheSpirit Midi Din cables along with TRS cables are more simpler. When you understand the routing you typically do the same thing every time. USB in this case is more about convenience of getting all your Fantom tracks as audio. However if you are patient enough you can just bounce them as audio one by one and won’t need to deal with nearly as many steps. If you are using the MPC in stand alone without a PC, you can’t even use the usb drivers like that because the MPC won’t see the Fantom as class compliment. Only as a controller to trigger midi data.
@GGVMusic So no PC factored in? The MPC won't see all your audio outputs from the Fantom in that case if going directly into the MPC with USB. While the MPC sees class compliant audio drivers/interfaces since v2.10. I think the Fantom driver is a little more complex than the MPC is coded via software at the moment. It'll see the midi portion of the driver fine, but not all the separate audio channels. Just the main. If you are running both the MPC and Fantom via USB to PC...Make sure you have vendor mode turn on in the Fantom settings. Menu, System, Driver and if you see generic change that to vendor. Hit the write button to save then reboot the Fantom after. In this case you want to be using the Fantom 6/7/8 driver as a audio driver within your daw settings. Then you can see all audio outputs from the Fantom. This enables the Fantom to read both 16 channels midi and give you the 32 channels of audio. If you are using another driver/audio interface in your daw settings then you probably will end up only hearing sound from your main 1/2 outputs only cuz the drivers won't know about any other Fantom channels at all. If standalone it's better to use the midi din and trs cables...but you will not be hearing all those outputs the Fantom has to offer as their own individual thing. Instead everything out of the main output. On the Fantom make sure in the zone view tone 1-16 are correct. Also in Zone Edit, OUT/PC make sure the output there is correct. This section is also important for recalling your projects to get the same tones. MSB, LSB, and PC. However the second you make a minor change to the tone like the attack for example, you have to write the tone as a user tone or it'll just revert back to the original tone before the change. It's also easier on the MPC to be in the midi channel and control MSB, LSB, and PC from there with its jog wheel. It'll also save those settings so when you load the project again it'll remember the correct tones on your Fantom. A tip though is if you see the MPC level monitor hearing the input lay your notes down and then go into the audio tab at the bottom of the mpc screen and just record that midi into audio to be safe. After you can mute the midi tracks and unmute if you want to modify anythng. Also if you are not in the mood fiddling around with the MSB, LSB, PC. I usually find out those numbers and rename each midi track to the numbers they are on. So if I reload a track and it's all wrong...I still have the correct numbers in the individual midi track names and know I can go back anytime when im feeling up to it to put them the right way.
Hey Bolo 1st Thank you for taking your time and creating this video for the community brother, greatly appreciated. I used the same setup, but every time I change the sounds it changes my track. For example track one piano and I change the sound to another it automatically changes my track to another track. It doesn’t stay on track 1
Could you do a tutorial on how to export a wav/mp3 file from the MPC whilst having tracks recorded with the FA or Fantom? I created a song in song mode using different midi channels where the Fantom was definitely there each time. After exporting it into a wav/mp3 file I wasn’t able to hear the Fantom and it was muted only the beat was there which I created on the MPC… Any help is appreciated!
The thing that bothers me about using external synths with the MPC is that you have to use the Main / Direct knob to mix in the audio levels of the synth with the internal MPC sounds and when you do that it lowers the overall output of the internal MPC sounds so it creates an overall dull output. I wish Akai just let you mix IN the input audio and kept the MPC internal audio levels the same.
Hey u have any loop packs I can get like sexy red or glo rilla stuff and u need to check out galaxis it has over 20,000 sounds can u make a video with that and Mpc 🔥
Any suggestions for the sound NOT coming out of the speakers from the MPCX special edition and Fantom 6 keyboard? Everything is attached where it should be. Just no sound from the Fantom 06 coming out the speakers alone. MPCX plays by itself
Man Bolo .. paper kinda tight right now but I do want to use your link to get a J6 😂😂🤷🏾♂️ … just to start understanding how to play midi in instead of pad perform .. thanks Bolo ✌🏽
When you record MIDI tracks into the MPC X do they automatically loop if you're recording? Or do you have to assign the sample first before it will play back
@bolodaproducer Peace Bolo. On the MPC X, I mapped all 16 knobs to different effects using different submixes, but I can only set a pgm to one submix. Is it possible to chain submixes? I'm looking for a way to map and use all 16 knobs for realtime FX control without having to switch the submix routing during a live set.
@@BoloDaProducer And if it turns out it's not possible to chain sub mixes, maybe there's a way to group multiple effects to assign them to a single knob?
@@BoloDaProducer found a workaround. The goal was to map all 16 knobs, but assigning 4 inserts to the master and another 4 to the submixes, now there's 8 independent effects available.
Bolo, finally got this. I can record and hear audio of the fantom 06 in the mpc x but, when I switch to the mpc sounds, I have no audio coming from the mpc x itself. My output of the fantom is going to the input of the mpc. The output of the mpc is going to the input of the monitor station and out to my speakers. But, again when I try to play the sounds of the mpc, nothing What am I doing wrong on the mpc side
When exporting the sounds from the mpc that I recorded using the fantom 06 they dont have any sound. There’s only 8 audio tracks. So if I have 12 instrument sounds from Roland then what do I do?
No disrespect towards your time at all Bolo, but I have been using my Fantom combined to my MPC live 2 as a midi program, and I want the audio saved, but I don’t play the keys.. what do I do? This would help me a lot, please and thank you 🙏🏾
whats up Bolo, so i have everything connected as you stated. When i record a 4 bar loop, it only plays 2 bars then the rest cuts off. do you know why that is?
Everything is working fine except it’s only recording midi. It replays midi and sound but doesn’t export the sound from the Fantom , gives a slow or distorted version of them when I try to export everything from the mpcx
@@BoloDaProducer for some reason the sounds the from Phantom comes out lower on the mpc when playing on the keys versus using the pads it’s away louder.. any idea why is that happening I got all of my volume knobs up ???
perfect timing just got my fantom 06 yesterday pairing with mpc live 2 💪🏾
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I use the same configuration even my X is above the Fantom on the stand. I downloaded this video for reference though. Thoroughly explained and sometimes it’s easy to start tripping with internal and external routing. Best explained to the point video now.
Brother, you got a new admire here, I followed your steps and it's very helpful... It just worked like bang on the first try... Big thanks brother.
I learned something new with this video. MSB and LSB will make a world of difference. I was using Looper to convert the MIDI (from my Fantom rack) to audio.
Just subbed , liked the videos i saw in the list. Im waiting for my live 2 , but that there is my dream set up. Mpc x and a roland fantom. 1 day hopefully
Nice to see this will get the Fantom 8 its the truth with analog filters as the filters of any synth is what gives a synth it’s on sound ie Moog LPF.
Thanks bro now I understand I was tired of saving audio loops
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Using the USB driver for the Fantom is a beast too. That will give you 16 channels stereo or 32 mono to push to audio tracks. You have to have it hooked up to a computer though. The MPC hardware only picks up the midi portion if using straight USB to it . PC gets both audio and midi through the one cable. I also think you can use both the midi ports and usb too though so you can still chain your midi.
If you don’t hear anything make sure you routed an audio track to the corresponding output of your channel on the Fantom too. Default is 1/2. If all else fails or confused use 1/2 on the MPC and just solo the audio you want to record.
acoustic drums on the Fantom are incredibly insipid. I would like to use the Fantom the way you described but with the MPC drums. Would you have a good way to set this up with the MPC syncing to the Fantom and recording all to the DAW? Happy New Year Y'all
@@SunlightOfTheSpirit Do a fresh power on. Don’t change any settings beforehand if you aren’t too sure what they do, because you’ll need to save after.
Go to menu and then the general tab. Make sure USB driver is set to vender.
Next go to the USB tab further down the menu on the left. Make sure USB audio mix/parallel is set to parallel.
You have to hit the write button and do a system write to save those changes. Then reboot…
Once rebooted the Fantom will give you its audio drivers. In your DAW just select the audio driver Fantom-06 07 08. Once you do that you should be able to see the midi options as well as the audio inputs in the audio channels. Keep in mind you have to make sure zones on the Fantom match to the track to where you want it to go.
If you are using the MPC software or really any daw make sure you actually add the audio track too. First Fantom audio channel is 1/2, second is 3/4, third is 5/6 and so on. Make sure you don’t have the faders down on the Fantom, and arm to record you should be able to see the signals if you have input monitoring on.
MPC side it’ll help if you have the MPC routed into an audio interface since you can’t have two audio drivers set as the main in your daw. You’d have to get your tracks as audio. You can route audio into the Fantom too. To do that plug your main outs or sub mix to your line in on the back of the Fantom. In the Fantom after hit menu and then effects. Click to where you see mic on the screen and that should change to line in. Also tap the bottom left to were it says audio in to enable incoming audio. At this point you probably can simply if using midi in/out to the MPC…for me I just record my Fantom to audio then switch to my audio interface to hear all hardware together. If you don’t have one thing routed into another you will only hear Fantom or only MPC. The interface bridges both.
As for the midi clock I usually leave MTC 30 on in the daw. Fantom has an option in the midi tab to sync via USB or MTC 30. Don’t think it makes a difference there.
Thanks dude, I have an MPC live 2 and was meaning having this synced with the Fantom but also recording in Ableton live while playing along when I hit transport on the Fantom. Dunno if I should be usb midi to the Fantom or midi din cables?
@@SunlightOfTheSpirit Midi Din cables along with TRS cables are more simpler. When you understand the routing you typically do the same thing every time. USB in this case is more about convenience of getting all your Fantom tracks as audio. However if you are patient enough you can just bounce them as audio one by one and won’t need to deal with nearly as many steps. If you are using the MPC in stand alone without a PC, you can’t even use the usb drivers like that because the MPC won’t see the Fantom as class compliment. Only as a controller to trigger midi data.
@GGVMusic So no PC factored in? The MPC won't see all your audio outputs from the Fantom in that case if going directly into the MPC with USB. While the MPC sees class compliant audio drivers/interfaces since v2.10. I think the Fantom driver is a little more complex than the MPC is coded via software at the moment. It'll see the midi portion of the driver fine, but not all the separate audio channels. Just the main.
If you are running both the MPC and Fantom via USB to PC...Make sure you have vendor mode turn on in the Fantom settings. Menu, System, Driver and if you see generic change that to vendor. Hit the write button to save then reboot the Fantom after. In this case you want to be using the Fantom 6/7/8 driver as a audio driver within your daw settings. Then you can see all audio outputs from the Fantom. This enables the Fantom to read both 16 channels midi and give you the 32 channels of audio. If you are using another driver/audio interface in your daw settings then you probably will end up only hearing sound from your main 1/2 outputs only cuz the drivers won't know about any other Fantom channels at all.
If standalone it's better to use the midi din and trs cables...but you will not be hearing all those outputs the Fantom has to offer as their own individual thing. Instead everything out of the main output. On the Fantom make sure in the zone view tone 1-16 are correct. Also in Zone Edit, OUT/PC make sure the output there is correct. This section is also important for recalling your projects to get the same tones. MSB, LSB, and PC. However the second you make a minor change to the tone like the attack for example, you have to write the tone as a user tone or it'll just revert back to the original tone before the change. It's also easier on the MPC to be in the midi channel and control MSB, LSB, and PC from there with its jog wheel. It'll also save those settings so when you load the project again it'll remember the correct tones on your Fantom. A tip though is if you see the MPC level monitor hearing the input lay your notes down and then go into the audio tab at the bottom of the mpc screen and just record that midi into audio to be safe. After you can mute the midi tracks and unmute if you want to modify anythng. Also if you are not in the mood fiddling around with the MSB, LSB, PC. I usually find out those numbers and rename each midi track to the numbers they are on. So if I reload a track and it's all wrong...I still have the correct numbers in the individual midi track names and know I can go back anytime when im feeling up to it to put them the right way.
Great video, question I have a similar setup with the keyboard stand and second tear combo but my chair sits kinda low any high chair recommendations?
Cool vid. Definitely a lot to digest (pause) but will come in handy.
I Love that the colors reminds me of the 3000
This really helpful. Thanks Bolo!
Hey Bolo 1st Thank you for taking your time and creating this video for the community brother, greatly appreciated. I used the same setup, but every time I change the sounds it changes my track. For example track one piano and I change the sound to another it automatically changes my track to another track. It doesn’t stay on track 1
Love these videos! 😊
Thanks!!
Can you make a beat with these configurations and how you capture the audio into the MPC? Thanks
I did some on my lives
Is this the same process to setup a MPC KEY 37 and Fantom 7?
Thanks bruh. I needed this for my fantom now I gotta figure out the msb and lsb for my hydrasynth
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Excellent video, many thanks 👍👍👍
Thanks. I have the same set-up and this was helpful.
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how do you gear heads save your projects? do you have to have everything exported/recorded as wav or you can save midi also?
I just showed in video how to save the project
Could you do a tutorial on how to export a wav/mp3 file from the MPC whilst having tracks recorded with the FA or Fantom? I created a song in song mode using different midi channels where the Fantom was definitely there each time. After exporting it into a wav/mp3 file I wasn’t able to hear the Fantom and it was muted only the beat was there which I created on the MPC… Any help is appreciated!
Yo homie you should do one on Roland fantom and MPC Software
The thing that bothers me about using external synths with the MPC is that you have to use the Main / Direct knob to mix in the audio levels of the synth with the internal MPC sounds and when you do that it lowers the overall output of the internal MPC sounds so it creates an overall dull output. I wish Akai just let you mix IN the input audio and kept the MPC internal audio levels the same.
Hey u have any loop packs I can get like sexy red or glo rilla stuff and u need to check out galaxis it has over 20,000 sounds can u make a video with that and Mpc 🔥
Any suggestions for the sound NOT coming out of the speakers from the MPCX special edition and Fantom 6 keyboard? Everything is attached where it should be. Just no sound from the Fantom 06 coming out the speakers alone. MPCX plays by itself
@BoloDaProducer thanks for this. How would you go about hooking up the MPC to both the Fantom-06 and computer at the same time?
Man Bolo .. paper kinda tight right now but I do want to use your link to get a J6 😂😂🤷🏾♂️ … just to start understanding how to play midi in instead of pad perform .. thanks Bolo ✌🏽
Click my link and check out the Juno DS 61 it has a lot of sounds and it’s on sale!!!
Do we use stereo or mono 1/4” cables
Can't beat the classic mpc and keyboard workstation combo
Wuss good homie can you change sequences on fa 06 ?
Bolo what stand is that supporting the X and the Fantom 06?
When you record MIDI tracks into the MPC X do they automatically loop if you're recording? Or do you have to assign the sample first before it will play back
@bolodaproducer Peace Bolo. On the MPC X, I mapped all 16 knobs to different effects using different submixes, but I can only set a pgm to one submix. Is it possible to chain submixes? I'm looking for a way to map and use all 16 knobs for realtime FX control without having to switch the submix routing during a live set.
Let me see… but I don’t think that’s an option yet
@@BoloDaProducer And if it turns out it's not possible to chain sub mixes, maybe there's a way to group multiple effects to assign them to a single knob?
@@BoloDaProducer found a workaround. The goal was to map all 16 knobs, but assigning 4 inserts to the master and another 4 to the submixes, now there's 8 independent effects available.
Bolo, finally got this. I can record and hear audio of the fantom 06 in the mpc x but, when I switch to the mpc sounds, I have no audio coming from the mpc x itself. My output of the fantom is going to the input of the mpc. The output of the mpc is going to the input of the monitor station and out to my speakers.
But, again when I try to play the sounds of the mpc, nothing
What am I doing wrong on the mpc side
Great video!!! Would this work with the Akai Professional MPK261 61 Key MIDI Controller?
No
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Lyrics I got beats I don't.bet I can write a hit any beats u got waiting for another
When exporting the sounds from the mpc that I recorded using the fantom 06 they dont have any sound. There’s only 8 audio tracks. So if I have 12 instrument sounds from Roland then what do I do?
I’ll make a video this week
Can you add the MPC to the KEY61?
No disrespect towards your time at all Bolo, but I have been using my Fantom combined to my MPC live 2 as a midi program, and I want the audio saved, but I don’t play the keys.. what do I do?
This would help me a lot, please and thank you 🙏🏾
whats up Bolo, so i have everything connected as you stated. When i record a 4 bar loop, it only plays 2 bars then the rest cuts off. do you know why that is?
Everything is working fine except it’s only recording midi. It replays midi and sound but doesn’t export the sound from the Fantom , gives a slow or distorted version of them when I try to export everything from the mpcx
Thanks alot
Great video
Thanks!
Soon as you hit record play on the Mpc. The instrument change!
You got to be doing something wrong….
So are the stock sounds in the fantom 06 similar to the old school fantom x6?
That’s what I’m asking to myself. I still got my x6 and plan on getting an mpc soon
@@AdrianP225ok cool well could you add sounds to the X6 or do you run with what's already in it?
@@Realtalkyou08 you can add sounds but with the new models it’s much easier because all you have to do is download the new updates to my knowledge.
Bolo what happened to the black FA-06?
I still got it
@@BoloDaProducer Okay cool, im about to scoop me up one in a couple of weeks. I want those roland supernatural sounds without breaking my pockets lol
Brooo thank youuu
You’re welcome!
Which Z-Stand do you use?
Here ya go! amzn.to/3TEpDcf
I tried this man…couldn’t get sound like you did…mpc one/ fantom 06. Can help me solve? I don’t have an interface..or computer..just monitors.
Beats is needed 2 write 2
I got everything connected right but not receiving any sound
Watch my last hook up video I have work around
@@BoloDaProducer for some reason the sounds the from Phantom comes out lower on the mpc when playing on the keys versus using the pads it’s away louder.. any idea why is that happening I got all of my volume knobs up ???
its easier to just pick your sounds on the fathom that way you know wat sounds your pickingkn
am a writer you got beats to hear and buy