What am I Supposed to Recommend Now?? - The Problems With OnePlus
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From flagship killer to dead flagships, OnePlus has taken a plunge from grace. Where did it all go wrong for the brand who once promised they would never settle?
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THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS. Whoever in your team recommended talking about OnePlus - Thank you.
I've been very disappointed having owned Oneplus 1, 3T. 6T, Nord and 8 Pro. Loved owning a OnePlus at first. Will unfortunately be moving away from the company as they are mediocre at best now.
what are you switching to?
Me too, I still have my OP 8 Pro, because I wanted to try out Android for a long time, coming from the walled ecosystem. The 8 Pro was hard- and software wise the best phone I could imagine. TLDR, I'll switch back to iOS again this fall. Don't really like Apple as a company, but their phones are solid and iOS is really reliable imo.
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Agreed, I had a 3T and a 5T, the 5T just died and when I was looking around I was disappointed when I saw the new OnePlus' even though I loved them, picked up a z fold 3 and cant complain after a couple weeks.
The OnePlus 3 has been my one and only OnePlus phone. Loved it, but everything after it already became way too expensive and offered really nothing over any other flagship phone.
You still use a OnePlus 3?
@@ethanlenning sorry, I meant my one and only OnePlus phone.
@@ethanlenning I kept my oneplus 3t for 6 years. Only recently replaced it, insane value for money IMO. Was such a great phone. Shame the battery died otherwise I'd still be using it.
I still have my OnePlus 7T Pro and loving it. The notchless design is still something that's nowhere to be found in new phones.
I still have my Oneplus 3 and looking at getting a new phone finally but still have no issues and it still runs everything
My first OP was the OP5, when the OP7T Pro came out with the pop up I couldn't help myself. It has been a great phone, but now I wanted to see if the OP10T was for me... I was excited to see what OP had in store for me this time, not anymore
Same. OP5 was the first OP. Then moved to OP8 Pro. Then I broke it by accident and as OP9 was releasing a few days later (and I was in vacation), I jumped ship to Note 20. Now I see the newer OP phones (including 9) and thank my stars that I made the switch.
What more could you want from a phone? It offers flagship performance, decent cameras and excellent battery/charging
The 10 is crap
I've been hoping for a while now that we see a return to form. Owned a OnePlus One and have probably gotten over a dozen phones purchased for them via recommendations and my own purchases. While I still love some of their devices and their original philosophy, we've seen many moves astray from it. Really hoping they can indeed focus so we can all go back to cherishing that one special brand.
I've had my OnePlus 7T hang up by itself when I dialed 911. Imagine trying to explain to someone who is injured that you cannot dial 911 because your phone has some weird glitch and needs to restart while they are laying on the floor bleeding with a dislocated shoulder. Needless to say, that was the final straw after a long series of unusual or weird glitches with my OnePlus. This could have actually killed somebody.
holy shit
Yikes!
jeez, i remeber when that bug became a thing... one of the craziest bugs in phones in recent times imo. absolute incompetance from oneplus, for all we know someone could have died because of this
My experience with this seems to have been tied to the 90hz display. Every few weeks I toggle from 90 to 60 and then back to 90hz and the gremlin seems to be kept at bay
Wtf I hope they’re doing better now
Imagine dying because of Oneplus refusing to call 911
I'm glad this got coverage. Oxygen OS was the only selling point for me and the thing that kept me coming back again and again until the 8 Pro. It's unremarkably mediocre now. This company used to have a heart, sadly it's been replaced with a raging desire to become what they were trying to destroy.
The failovers for flashing and the general hardware combos are still good. The ROM is the only thing they need to fix to go back to what they used to be.
thats how it always goes, put hyper competitive pricing and good marketing of your products (aka flagship killers), make a name, then try to join the big guys, if the "nothing" company is successful at all they will go down the same route 100%
I got an 8t however switching to the nothing phone because of how terrible OnePlus os is now 🤣
"You become the very thing you swore to destroy"
I had the OnePlus 7 pro which was pretty good but the camera was meh
The OnePlus 7 which I used to own was the best phone at the price range at the time. later, when OxygenOS 11 was installed, the storage slowly started to ran out. Now I know why.
I appreciate the Kirkland Metal Mixing Bowl in 3:57
One of the most durable mixing bowls I've ever owned.
You either die a hero... well, you know where this one's going.
It's amusing how LMG videos had lots of OnePlus sponsorship a week or two ago, and now we have this video exposing how bad the brand has fallen (I actually like this move, expose brands regardless if they were/are a sponsor or not. Keep it up, LMG).
Is taking up sponsorship for a product, even when knowing it's not up to the mark a correct thing to do?
I love LMG, but just kinda confused by these moves.
You assumed because a video from two weeks ago had them supporting one plus??? You do realize this videos are made like months in advance. This video wasn't made a week ago. The same goes for those videos you saw where they had one plus as a sponsor
@@malfaroangel3896 I don't think that changes the fact that Linus had issues (Which are still not resolved. If they are resolved I don't think this video should have been posted.) with OnePlus regarding their phones before they got sponsored by OnePlus. They should have probably refused the sponsorship, as they know OnePlus's phones have not been not up to the mark (as shown by Linus stating here that he would not recommend OnePlus to his friends or family).
Anyways thanks for your time.
if they didn't do sponsorships for any product that had issues-they couldn't do ANY sponsorships ever. There is no such thing as a perfect product, which is why reviews exist, to help you decide if the pros outweigh the cons.
Really? I hadn't noticed.
I had the "answer phone call" button issue too, couldn't accept phone calls from an EMT while administering CPR to a guy on the sidewalk. I had to pair my Bluetooth headphones and use their accept call button. The phone went into a drawer that very day. It's useless if it can't be relied on for the basics.
Holy shit, that’s big. Phone failed at being a phone.
@@prashank Not that unheard of unfortunately. Smartphones can have low call quality, sometimes so bad the other side can't hear you reliably. OnePlus 3 had aggressive noise canceling that would cancel your own voice in-call if there was a speck of dust in one of the ambient sound microphones (a tiny 0.5mm hole near the camera).
Did they make it?
@@herb414 No, but it wasn't the phone's fault. Aneurysm.
@@iaadsi at least you don't have to wonder if you had used a different phone would they have made it with a cause of death such as that. Nothing you could have done.
Glad you covered this topic. bought a op9 after seeing my friends with an op8pro, liked the software.
bought it, almost instantly got updated to oxygen os, and downhill we go:
tons of bugs (camera crashing, AOD centering problems, Media storage expanding, bugs with ui, bugs with buds pro and more...)
Reported everything to oneplus trough their app, got a response that theyre working on it and yet, a full year later, nothing changed, nothing fixed.
not even gonna talk about how much i miss oxygen os and how much i hate color os.
Install a custom rom on it
@@jesse1211 which is?
@@l10r35 There is a couple of custom roms based on android 12 and 13 avalaible. You can try the
Pixel experience for the pure android stock experience found on Pixel phone without extra customisations
But If you are a bit geeky and want extra customisations try the following ones instead :
Evolution X
Syberia os
Cherish os
Awaken os etc.....
@@jesse1211 alright, thank you very much mate
I'm glad i can help you 🌚
if google continues it's current pricing, and general trend with it's pixel phones i think they would be a great recommendation for most people that don't absolutely need an iphone, or need the extra customization other brands offer. at launch they can occasionally be buggy, but after that they seem to be pretty reliable.
They need to put better antennas in their phones for that to happen
@@TheologyUnleashed honestly never had a problem with connectivity on my pixel 7, on either verizon or tmobile here in the USA. i have since switched to iOS though, was tired of the gaming performance of my pixel.
@@aidan8583 do you spend time on places with poor coverage?
I've been pretty sad to hear about all of these issues. I'm still rocking my 7 Pro and honestly, I have not experienced a single of the issues listed. I am glad I seem to have caught their last "good" phone, so to say. The motor pop-out front camera is a blessing for a person who takes no more than 3 selfies per year such as myself. It's been the main reason why I've been hesitant to even plan on changing my phone, since I refuse to give up screen real estate (with a notch or punch hole) for a camera I will never use. Disheartening to hear that this may no longer be the sole reason why people like me should hold back on buying a new phone, though.
7 pro user like you...love the phone...hopefully they dont release android 12 update for it...
I really love the 7 pro, it's jus awesome! I just have been struggling with battery capacity and i don't know where to get a new one :/
The OnePlus 7 Pro is peak OnePlus hardware for none selfie users. But Android 11 broke the user experience for an amazing piece of hardware.
I guess we're just the lucky few, I have a 7T and it still works perfectly fine.
Ex 7Pro user. Mine had burn-in and unresponsive touch screen issues. I did about 8 months of research on what to get next and settled with the Fold3. I've been VERY happy.
I was an extremely happy OnePlus 3T user for over 5 years and I just recently changed it for a Pixel 6. It was an excellent phone and it represented the peak of OnePlus in my opinion. They did make a few great devices after it (the 7 series was a standout in particular) but the truth is that every single iteration from the 3T onward moved them more towards generic mediocrity and further away from the reasons many of us loved the brand in the first place. Remember people, brand loyalty is never a good thing. Always get what suits your needs. There is no reason to go down with a sinking ship just because you used to like it in the past. Goodbye OnePlus.
Also did the same move from OnePlus 3T to Pixel 6. No regrets. Goodbye OnePlus.
Мне больше всего запомнилось, как они стабилизацию в 5T в пред последнем обновлении отключили )
Peak of OnePlus in my opinion was the OP 7 Pro. That phone was the definition of speed (when it came out ofc)
I used the Oneplus 3T for five years and never really had anything to complain about until the battery died this year. So I switched to the iPhone 13. But really the 3T was such a good phone that i never really found a reason to change for over 5 years
Same I used 3T for 5 years with absolutely no issues and finally switched to Pixel 6 Pro in December.
I agree. OnePlus bugs are almost almost as plentiful as in video LTT ads these days!
iphone has Alot bugs 👌
I've absolutely loved my OnePlus 9 pro but it took months after launch to finally have many of the simple bugs I had issues with to be fixed. I didn't have issues with the storage dumping but I had issues with so many UI, texting, calling, and maps features. I've waited it out now and I haven't run into many of those bugs I used to have in a while. I definitely love the camera and OS of the phone with the fast charging and super responsive screen I will probably stick with my OnePlus 9 pro for a while. It's not like new mobile processors coming out are outperforming the snapdragon 888 significantly and charging is surpassing the 65w. Also there is no point in higher resolution or higher than 120hz on a phone.
My 5 cents to this is that as long as OP released phones once or twice a year, we were in better hands, as the devs only needed to support a limited number of devices. Now when they have two versions of the primary phone, plus the T models, at least two? versions of Nord and then some Asia only models, it's getting wild. So, as Linus put it, they need to focus! If they want to have a phone in three different price groups fine, but maybe leave it at that. Three phones per year is enough. Apple is doing at least this one thing correctly.
Actually, Apple in the recent years has been doing wonders(for Apple standard). The only downgrade I can mention is the price.
@@SpruceX But apple doesn't release a phone every month. one pluses road map this year is to basically do that...and there way to small to accompany all those different devices. Its getting so bad they they are releasing phones with realme frames just like poco is doing with xioami... Apple releases 4 models a year and throw in an se model but are a way bigger company and have been used to optimizing older devices with newer software (for better or worse). That's why when it comes to os support and security they cant keep up and can really only support there flagships in the long term (which there struggling to do)
One plus just reskins oppo phones now
The OnePlus brand did become famous and sales started to grow. The moment it happened they went from being the flagship killer to being a crappy reskinned Oppo!
i like my 9R very much.
what a vibrant colourful display !
im not too much into phones but this is the best among the phones ive used yet.
and the fast charging helps a lot.
it also has a speaker on the top front of the display which gives a loud clear voice when talking on calls without having to turn the speaker on.
all these r just what i need in my phone but the reason im pissed off with them is that after the last software update they simply removed 2 features from it.
the call connect end vibrate tone.
and the speed dial !!
both gone.
what kind of blunder is that ????
i really like the 10 pro and wd like to get that one now but confused coz i dont know what to expect from them
I have a OnePlus 7 Pro. Based on all the reviews of their more recent devices, it seems to me like this is the last good phone they made. I love this phone and have no plans to change it. The only minor drawbacks are that there's no wireless charging and a software update added an annoying "accessibility options" shortcut that I can't remove and keep accidentally pressing. Apart from that, it works like a charm and I have no plans to change it any time soon.
Edit: I just managed to remove the accessibility options menu. It's still annoying that they pushed it themselves though because I have no use for stuff like this.
👍🏻 7 Pro was my last 1+. I have no plans to go back to them based on their offerings since the 7 Pro
My OnePlus 7 Pro was brilliant, but updates have ruined the battery life. My battery health is good (I only ever trickle charged over night), and I'm getting 3-4 SOT. I don't game on my phone btw.
The thing is though, with a budget of €500-600, and wanting a phone the same size that's somewhat snappy, I have no idea what to get. Sure there's Xiaomi and Realme, but trying to get quality cases etc for them is a nightmare.
Yep, I owned the 1, 2, 3T, 5T, 7Pro, and 7TPro.
When I bought the 7TPro I hated it, sold it, and went back to my 7 Pro. It's literally just the same phone, but with less stable software. It seems that OnePlus likes making the least optimized stuff they can make now...
Still, they absolutely trashed the 7 Pro's battery life with updates. It also turned on in about half the time that it takes for it to turn on now (even while completely brand new software after a factory reset).
It's sad, but I'm keeping mine lol. I Just got the battery replaced with an original by Oneplus's support, it was a nightmare dealing with them, they kept my phone for two months, broke something while opening the phone and tried charging me for it lol. I didn't budge and after some angry back and forth they fixed it
I've had friends with major issues with to op7pro, in my opinion I think the 6t was the last great phone they made. I used my 6 for 4 years, but then the battery became unbearable.
For the love of God, hold onto that thing as long as you can. I LOVED my 7 Pro and got caught up in the number game and traded it in on an 8, and then a 9. Both feel like passable modern androids, no longer novel, exciting, or unique in any way.
I recently got my hands on the OnePlus 9 and it was only because I had only one very precious game that could not save on cloud and it was on my previous OnePlus 7T. The reason why I needed a new phone was because of only 2 issues. 1st was that my phone was basically locked away from at&t's servers because they made a change that was like "we only support 5g phones now" so I wasn't able to call or use mobile data. but the 2nd issue was much worse. My very first softwire update just broke the phone. It takes ages to start the phone from a restart, It was overheating much faster, and worst of all, when I was gaming say like on Brawl Stars and I had my left thumb on the screen and moving it was all right but when I wanted to aim and shoot my movement is just dancing across my screen and it didn't allow me to move until I got my finger off and then it would work, just not for long though. same thing was actually with when I want to type something, it just types for me and clicking characters that aren't even close so that it could be mistaken as a typo.
How is the 9 working out for you? I got the 9 pro refurbished for 400 despite watching this video beforehand. I got the T-Mobile variant, but have At&t, so it came with Android 11 and I can't update it unless I put in a T-Mobile sim card... but it's been perfect so I don't even want to update. So fast. Incredible battery life. No bugs I've noticed. Great photos.
I can't believe you play brawl stars
I have never faced the bugs you mentioned in my 7T but still I have had my own set of issues with both the software and hardware. This made me switch over from Oneplus 7T after 2.x years and try Samsung's old-flagship model. As a newcomer to Samsung smartphone, let's see how well this transitioning treats me.
Hey, I'm still using my 7T, but so far I've had almost no bugs. What were your problems?
While the price is what initially got me into OnePlus, the software was what sold me on it.
But since the OP5, it's been going downhill every year, I even went back to my OP3+ until last year.
Every phone has great specs these days, what makes you stand out is good, clean, efficient software.
Pixel and Samsung stand out with early security patches. Can get a similar experience on other popular phones using LineageOS, but not all phone's bootloader can be relocked.
The 3 was their last great phone, the 5T was ok, the 7Pro was the last phone I bought from them.
The 8t is what I have and it's my first from OnePlus. Overall a dogturd.
I am probably at the point where my OxygenOS 11 on the OnePlus 6T is the best the software will ever be ever since Carl Pei did the right choice and left 1+.
I'm an edge case but I won't be upgrading to "OxygenOS" 12 for the life of this phone. It's perfectly stable as it is and I just need it to keep living like that for the next coming years.
@@tannerbethard8575 Damn, and I was so hyped to upgrade to that once the price went down.
Hey guys, correction here: You CAN get log data without having to root, you need to enable adb debugging, connect it to your PC, and use ADB or Android Studio to get the logs, but you will most likely need to root to delete those files in the OnePlus 9 situation
You are correct. You don't need root to get logcat. They are just showing off over there
They couldn't even figure out Magisk Hide or Zygisk Deny List........ With Magisk flashed.... And they are a tech company.
ADB is a life saver. I have had to restore my mobile data button several dozen times since I got my phone.
Why T-Mobile doesn't want me to easily be able to shut off data, I have no idea.
@@user-tq7bq3qf3k they obviously know about Magisk. But the focus of the video is not "how to delete log files in OnePlus".
@@user-tq7bq3qf3k wow dude you're so smart wow
I have a Oneplus 6, was my first proper smartphone but I compare it to a lot of other and the software was perfect ! The alter slider was useful and i love the navigation gesture from the bottom, unfortunalty, the gesture disapear with the 8 model, the alter slider with the 10T and the OS is likely to do it as well.. and with all of that.. me, what a shame, it was so good.. Now i'm looking forward to the Nothing Phone, I'm watching closely the 1st model and maybe i'll take the next one if the user experience is still pretty good.
I'm really into photography and I was very excited to hear about the Hasselblad collab, only to realize that the camera shows so much noise and also has a lot of focus issues.
Also after a few updates, my black lock screen started showing Hz lag and it gave me a lot of headaches. (I don't know how to call that screen it is the screen when you turn your phone and it is black and only shows time and some app notifications.) The last issue I've been having is that it doesn't show my Whatsapp notifications, which is annoying as I use this app the most.
Unfortunately they have lost me too. I loved the 5T and used it for years. Not worth the upgrade.
Used the 6T. Decent battery life. Then, funnily enough, with their last update ever to the 6T, battery life drastically reduced. Switched to a custom ROM and it went up by almost 50% - with the same apps, services, etc
Also also that's interesting. My 6T battery life has never changed?
People seriously sleep on running whatever rom they enjoy. I'll never understand it. You can find step by step guides, it doesn't take terrible long, and you'll hopefully learn a thing or two along the way. People still just refuse to ever get their toes wet.
i like my 9R very much.
what a vibrant colourful display !
im not too much into phones but this is the best among the phones ive used yet.
and the fast charging helps a lot.
it also has a speaker on the top front of the display which gives a loud clear voice when talking on calls without having to turn the speaker on.
all these r just what i need in my phone but the reason im pissed off with them is that after the last software update they simply removed 2 features from it.
the call connect end vibrate tone.
and the speed dial !!
both gone.
what kind of blunder is that ????
i really like the 10 pro and wd like to get that one now but confused coz i dont know what to expect from them
I'm currently using a 6T. Battery life has been pretty awful. I blamed the phone's age
What ROM did you went with?
Well at least there is always the Escobar Phone.
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@@superidol238 well, that didn't work out
Agreed. The last good phone that I had was the 7 plus. My 9 plus is just shy of unusable, especially with each update, which has broken the direct contact shortcut, the direct text shortcut, the silent slider, the screen rotate, and triggering speaker phone and mute buttons. Meanwhile, sporadic issues with fingerprint registration, answer buttons failing etc. I submitted cases after each issue and just get canned responses where they want the same information (which we know they have anyway) and completely ignoring the fact that there are hundreds of others posting and reporting issues.
I have a OnePlus Nord n200 and the memory has been filling up rapidly, I only have 2 games download and streaming apps. The only 2 outliers are my work app and VPN. That doesn't even come close to the maximum 64 GBs of space I have, I've even transferred some of my images to a micro SD card and I'm still nearing the max in space.
I'm still using my 7 Pro to this day, and frankly until something completely mind-blowing comes from Oneplus (or any other brand tbh) I have no desire to upgrade.
The design of the 7 pro is still really good and the display is beautiful. Definitely one of the best phones they made. Maybe the last good one too.
i have one too and have the same experience maybe these issues just effect the lower end models
I'm using the OP7TPro and still loving it. Especially the uninterrupted, big screen, its speed and the clean software. But it'll become old or break eventually at some point. For the next smartphone I want a desktop mode, clean software, a big screen, and fast experience. Maybe the upcoming Motorola Edge 30 Ultra.
Same here! Still rocking an OP6!
I have a 7 Pro with LineageOS.. Custom ROM support was the reason I got a OnePlus
@@jemsterr same here, running pixel experience on my 7pro, just waiting out the hole-punch designs on other phones so it doesn't feel like a downgrade when I inevitably upgrade
Thank you for covering this, my first "flagship" phone was a oneplus 9 that I've had for about a year now. The first three months it was the best phone I'd ever had, and then slowly things started to break, beginning with the fact that my phone wasn't ringing for phone calls. I've had numerous other bugs as well, including youtube videos playing themselves after I've paused them, and my phone completely hard resetting after I updated to OxygenOS 12! (luckily I had a backup). It's been frustrating to say the least, and I likely will never buy from oneplus again.
the samsung s21fe claps the oneplus 9, sorry for your loss mate
@@roboticvenom1935 trust me every day I regret not going for the s21
I have a 8T on Android 12 - a few problems i'm having:
- always-on/ambient display doesn't work anymore
- Sometimes my phone dienst ring when being called
- Android auto conpletely stopped working last week
- Add drawer doenst move out of the way when scrolling from the bottom to the top
- Music starts playing at random times, same for instagram and youtube
And some more...
This is my last oneplus phone. Ive been a fan of the brand for years but I'm done. Especially after the Android 12 update. If I wanted a Oppo, I would have bought a Oppo, not a oneplus.
Same I've had some issues in using it right now and usually it's fine but i have an issue with charging
Same issue with TH-cam even frame drops happening and crashes also and proximity sensor works even when i am not one the call one Plus also ruined my first flagship phone experience
And i never wanted oppo i bought OnePlus for near stock Android experience not oppo experience 🙂
Loved all my OnePluses, from the 3 all the way to my current 8 Pro (I had actually bought the 1 for a relative as well). But my latest experience has been really awful. I have the memory problem (99% full on a 256GB) and numerous other software glitches (messages randomly not being sent, phone app messed up after latest update, photos app messed up after update, USB connectivity not working 50% of the time, synching problems with android auto, etc. etc. etc.). Just bought a Samsung yesterday, something I never thought I'd do. I was a die-hard disciple fanboy of OnePlus and they managed to completely alienate me, with their lack of response to the Memory problem, which I still find bewildering...
That's heartbreaking
I've had oneplus 3 and oneplus 6s, and I was so happy with those phones and now i got the 9, i'm very dissapointed. I've only had it for a half a year and already considering to change my phone already. There are so many small bugs that irritates me and it just got an update that just added more bugs.
Thanks for telling me, just bought a pixel 7 instead
@@BrendenPragasam how is it going? Didn't Linus hint it was the same with Pixels?
Loved my OnePlus 3 and currently using a 7pro, but this will be last OnePlus device. Bugs and weird behaviour keep getting more and more noticeable. Either a Pixel or whatever Nothing release seems to be the logical next step. Kinda sad though since OnePlus did so much right.
Nothing will be more of a sidegrade than an upgrade if rumors are to be confirmed
Pixel 6 is the most buggy phone even Mkbhd wont recommend. Google to research more before you buy.
I'm using 7pro right now too and I'm completely disappointed by device support. Most likely will switch to Samsung next year
My Pixel 5 has been the most stable experience ever. Provided Google has worked out the Tensor bugs when I'm ready to upgrade (and they still have a phone that isn't a massive brick) I'll be sticking to Pixel, even though they're not officially available in my country
Been using 7 pro also, came from 3t. Sadly, i might switch to apple due to weird issues currently from my 7 pro.
Very sad, it is.
Kind of heartbreaking. My dad got a OnePlus One back in 2014, telling me that it was considered to be the best phone in the world at that time (flagship killer and all, I guess). That's what introduced me to the brand. He ended up upgrading and gave me his OnePlus One, and looking back, it was absolutely among the best phones I had. I was 15 then and have stuck with OnePlus ever since. Even my brother has noticed my commitment to the brand and, despite all the changing trends, I've stuck around because I just really loved what OnePlus was doing. And now I'm worried that my next upgrade is going to have to be something else.
The timing of this video is crazy for me because I've been thinking about this a lot lately as I recently factory reset my OnePlus 6T because I had so much useless material on it and it was getting unbearably slow and almost impossible to operate normally. My dad recently upgraded to a OnePlus 8 Pro and says he's really liked it so far, but I told him that a lot of what I've been reading is that OnePlus has really dropped the ball over the past few years and that my phone, the 6T, was basically their last really good phone. Thankfully, after my factory reset, I can see my phone lasting me at least another year or two because I don't care an awful lot about having the latest phone hardware, but I hope that when that point comes, OnePlus has cleaned up its act and gone back to what made them such a unique choice back in 2014.
7 pro is quite good aswell
7 series and 7t pro specifically are great phones
My first proper phone was also a McLaren edition 6T that my dad handed down to me in Jan 2019 and I've been using it ever since. While i still love using it it's reliability and responsiveness has deteriorated. I still use it to this day as OnePlus have done a great job in providing security updates after the android 11 upgrade but the slowdowns and the log dumps filling up the storage was preventing me from using it in crucial times. I'll be going to University this September and so i got myself an S22 Ulta and absolutely love using it. Sad to see that OnePlus have lost their position as the defacto android phone to buy
go to samsung.. it's the choice if you look at things objectively
The didn't drop off after 6T, 7 was excellent as well. 8 was good. I think 9 was where the decline started.
My OnePlus 5T was amazing. Absolutely loved that phone. I "upgraded" to a OnePlus 9; worst decision I ever made.
Mee too, i sold it and buy IPhone
Mee to
Still using 5T and don't want to upgrade because of all these bad reviews of new models :(
i like my 9R very much.
what a vibrant colourful display !
im not too much into phones but this is the best among the phones ive used yet.
and the fast charging helps a lot.
it also has a speaker on the top front of the display which gives a loud clear voice when talking on calls without having to turn the speaker on.
all these r just what i need in my phone but the reason im pissed off with them is that after the last software update they simply removed 2 features from it.
the call connect end vibrate tone.
and the speed dial !!
both gone.
what kind of blunder is that ????
i really like the 10 pro and wd like to get that one now but confused coz i dont know what to expect from them
@@danielherranz671 the same, my 5T still working, I changed the battery once, no need to change
I like how the ad reads let me know about something I might want but they aren't anywhere near 90 seconds like some.
I love this format. Having different people tell their problem! Hope we see more of Yvonne in future videos.
These kind of problems are EXACTLY the reason why I'll never never ever buy an Android phone. It's 2022 and they still haven't figured out how to make a long-lasting reliable phone. You're out, period. Tech enthusiast or not, the one thing I care on a phone first and foremost: RELIABILITY. So there is only one company to go to. Decent battery life, without adding a brick of a battery, comes right after which manifests the choice even more.
yes!
@@RandomUser2401 well, i agree but i think Samsung is catching up with Apple in terms of reliability.
@@RandomUser2401 yeah you should get out more. There are other brands that produce Android phones and I've never had issues like this on Samsung, Google or Sony phones. Apple has had a ton of issues themselves, yet somehow Apple fans remember none of them 🤦 It's ridiculous the lengths Apple fanboys will go to to prove Apple is the best (spoiler: it isn't)
@@RandomUser2401 Well I've atm the One plus 6. It 5 years old, still last me over a day (not a heavy user). It runs last version of android and it not being slowed down.
For support, I had to replace my sim-card of the phone, but because i used a old push out design card it got stuck in the phone. Contacted One plus, next day a delivery guy came to pick up the phone and 2 days later it returned with the card removed without any cost. So I can't complain about support. I prob am a lucky user and never experienced issues with the phone, neither with my One plus 3.
I'm SO glad you're covering this. Android 11 filled up in 2 weeks. I thought I was going crazy and rooted or not, there was no solution. I was pretty much forced to Android 12 to solve it
I kept having freezes and slowdowns with speedups that are only fixed in Android 12
While now missing features like the hidden space because I use a different phone app...
@@StiekemeHenk yes it's depressing. I was so hyped to get a One plus phone only to the everything
I wish they would bring their OS back
I get that GPS issue with Android auto too, however the last straw for me was when my 8t decided to brick itself for 2 days straight. No explanation, no cause, nothing. Just picked it up one morning and it was totally unresponsive. 2 days of new phone shopping later, and it randomly decides to come back to life, again without any explanation of what happened. I should have just stuck with the 6t...
I still use a OnePlus 6 to this date, and it still works amazingly. Sad to know the state of this awesome flagship killer company get to such a state. Hope i can continue to use it for another 5 years 😅
I use the OnePlus 7 and it's very buggy. Every now and then the whole phone randomly reboots. It hasn't happened to me during something super important yet, but it's so incredibly annoying. I'll probably buy a Samsung device next year, 4 years of OS Updates are the main selling point.
It's not longer receiving security updates (which I need for some apps).
had my 6 for 3 years treated me well for a long time but it started to get buggy and the battery would die insanely quick and would barley charge, cousin gave me his old 7 pro for $100 and it runs so nice so happy I have this phone still
Sell it otherwise you'll get a Qualcomm crash dump mode
Me too, until today; it freaked out on me and I'm on YT looking for a new phone... not a 1+ though...
The first oneplus phone will always hold a spot in my heart, that with CM13 was amazing. Rooting at literally a touch of a button. Those were the days
since I updated my op7 to android 12 I can absolutely agree with Linus! the os doesn’t feel as polished anymore and everyday i consider going back to android 11. that’s really not what you want from a update that has been overdue for months… I want my trusty old op3 back!
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
I understood that reference.
MKBHD
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COVERING THIS! I bought my first OnePlus phone, the OnePlus 7T, back in 2019. Still the phone I'm using. Loved it. I have recommended OnePlus to all my friends and Family. My wife, 2 sisters and my Mom and Dad all got OnePlus phones per my recommendation. I have yet to have problems, but feel awful because my sister's and Mom's phone stopped sending texts and I couldn't fix them. Which hurts as an aspiring Computer Engineer. They both bought replacement OnePlus Devices per my request saying, "This must be an anomaly". Now my wife's phone, which we bought because my wife's old phone had a bad camera and we just had a baby, has the same problem as Linus's Wife. Please OnePlus, fix these issues! I have loved my experience and want to stay with you but I'm not afraid to jump ship and give into buying flagships.
Why are you so loyal to them? This is awkward to read
@@bookshelf5759 I like my phone? Not sure why it's awkward to read. Thanks for the feedback on my feedback though.
I also have the 7T but man mine is starting to have a lot of issues after a few years (not to mention that I dropped it and it's very shattered), it's going to be so hard to upgrade to a phone with a punchhole or bezel camera.
@@halosheepftw Weird that there is the inconsistencies between phones of the same model, right? Like I said, still no problems on mine. Been working great. So odd. What do you want to replace it with?
I got the OnePlus 10 Pro and honestly haven't had a single issue, love that its close to stock android, and have no issue with APN settings or anything you have reported. Linus should revisit this now and the upcoming 11.
Hey Linus, are you saying that something is supposed to happen on your cars gps screen from your phone? is that how android auto works? (i dont have a car...out of the loop) I mean, I would expect my GPS to be in my car... or if i had a phone, id expect to need to have it on and active versus being at the lock screen where apps are idled.
I just switched to an S22+ from a OP7T. They have a "Goodbye" thread on their forums where you can see this has been going on for a while. They increased the price, decreased their quality and neglected their once loyal supporters. Picking up an S22 is a no brainer, especially since they are often on sale for hundreds of dollars less than the Oneplus flagships. If they cannot listen to their community I hope they at least listen to you Linus.
With the current deals in the netherlands I'm getting a S22 ultra (for 840 euros, brand new from the Samsung website) and will be leaving behind my OP7Pro on 1st July
Looks like i'll make the same switch
I had a 6t before an oxygen os broke my cellular, and there was no support at all. i am switching to iphone
@@BallinBC I got a S22+ 256GB for 450 from Google Fi
fun fact:
OnePlus started with a cooperation with Cyanogen Inc. (known for CyanogenMod) and they actually made the software for the OnePlus One, called Cyanogen OS 11 based on KitKat.
But OnePlus initially broke up with them due to the bugs and issues, Cyanogen Inc. wasn't able to fix in time (or at all) so they hired devs from the formerly Paranoid Android team and created OxygenOS.
Seeing them getting into the same mess makes me wonder, if anyone from the initial OOS devs is still around in the company.
OnePlus once was known for stable, clean and feature rich software that had many great stuff from custom ROMs.
So basically the custom ROM, that isn't a custom ROM.
Very sad.
Seems like the last vendor who cared about customers also no longer cares about anyone but themselves and the good old days of custom ROMs also are over due to the restrictions google had been making the last few years ( SafetyNet for example).
So nowadays you can choose between a bloated, messy OS or an clean, fast, free and lightweight OS, that can't be used for online banking, doesn't play netflix in HD and so on.
The big issue here is: LineageOS comes unrooted out of the box but since a bootloader unlock on modern devices can already break certain things, it's almost impossible to enjoy.
Old devices will not suffer from this but google just implemented hardware assisted detection routines for an unlocked bootloader on more recent devices.
I think i will just use my OnePlus 3t yet another year.
Sadly, google made sure old devices with anything before linux kernel 4,9 will no longer work with Android 12 (at least RIL = mobile data, sms, calls as it seems) so people are actually forced to upgrade their hardware, unless there are devs who take the huge effort to backport the whole stuff needed by android 12 OR port a newer kernel which isn't easy either.
So yeah there you have it.
Great comment!
There will be another brand like oneplus and the it as well will Fall into mediocricity
Then the cycle repeats cuz money runs around the same themes
The smartphone company with the best os in the market ...just turned into the worst overnight
What tf
Oxygen os was too simple for modern times
Awesome info 👍👍👍
I loved the 3T so when I upgraded to the 7T, I was expecting the same great experience. However, the secondary rear cameras became unusable after barely 2 months because they were clogged with dust.
Never heard of that, you got bad luck.
I'm writing this from my 7t which is still kicking ass after 4 years of intensive, and i mean INTENSIVE, use and abuse.
Newer models are a bit of a let down tbh.
The same things started for me with Nokia, solid phones, a lot of updates almost directly from google, but at some point something didn't go right. Heck they yet have to come with a new top model, they have apparently one in development, but apparently they are never happy with them and are doing quite well in cheap and medium marked (specially Asia) that they are not in a hurry.
My OP7 Pro was probably my favorite phone I've owned. I loved the pop-up camera, full screen zero notch plus privacy piece of mind. If I didn't crack the screen after my insurance on it expired, I would still be using it. Sad to hear they've gone so far down. Samsungs new software support policies pulled me into getting an S21 Ultra last year to replace it.
I have the 7T Pro and really appreciate it for those reasons. I got it in late 2019 and have only ever had one or two minor software glitches with it. Everything still works really well, the battery is great, and Oxygen OS's customisability for a really minimal and pleasing aesthetic is probably my favourite feature of this phone. I really hope OnePlus can pull themselves together again, but the odds seem a lil tough.
On the same ship as you basically. It was such a brilliant phone with so much uniqueness to it, I'd say it's one of my favourite mobile phone I've owned to date. Sadly last week it stopped working completely and I'll be moving to S22 Ultra
Software support means nothing to me as I always throw on a 3rd party OS. Samsung goes above & beyond with locking down bootloaders, so they're about the same as Apple to me.
likewise
I will replace my 7 Pro with a 7 Pro, or the 7T McLaren. Never a Samsung. Oxygen OS on Android 10. All these bugs are on Android 11 and 12. Android is moving towards higher system security against the user, which is breaking function.
I ended up feeling the same way with my Pixel XL. I really liked the phone and the specs for such a low price but the amount of bugs was literally insane sometimes my phone would literally be useless. At on point the main bug was the phone just randomly rebooting itself, one time it did it like 6 times within like 10 minutes, that was genuinely one of the most infuriating things i ever experienced
I've had that with my pixel although the random reboot was only twice a day
nexus 5 was googles last good phone, they fell off after that with high prices, inferior hardware and buggy software even tho its supposed to be stock android. The nexus line was like oneplus before oneplus was even a thing
Weird that they would imitate Windows.
really good content, keep it up Linus and team. I've been an OP user since 2016, sad to say OP has completely deteriorated. my best bet now would be poco x4 gt, im planning to have this as the replacement to my rooted OP5
Agreed. While doing service and repair I've seen all issues describe happen with all manufacturers (including apple)
The 7 Pro was the last one I feel was still good and priced correctly, even though it wasn't exactly the same "identity" as the original phones. Since they ditched their OS for ColorOS and have basically become an off-brand of Oppo phones, it's just not worth keeping up with them anymore.
True, I switched from the 7 Pro to the Pixel 6, which made things worse, but Ok. But the phones after the 7 were way too expensive for 'flagship killers'
@@willisgamingtv1320 Can you talk more about the transition from the 7 Pro to Pixel 6? I have a 7 Pro too and while I'm not planning on upgrading, it's interesting to hear your thoughts
Still running the 7 pro and still love it and haven't had any issues with it ever (touch wood)
Wow this was good to know. I have a 7 pro and still love it but I was thinking of switching but I guess I'll stick to this unless I really have to
Agreed, and this is coming from a User of the OP 7P with the best colorway (Nebula Blue) and I loved the company at that time, now I'm most likely not gonna get a OP phone when it's time to upgrade.
Oneplus launcher keeps crashing on my device... Had to install a 3rd party launcher cause it is unusable otherwise😶
My nord has been crashing every day since they released android 11 on it .... Like hard crashing where i have to hold the power and volume button to reset...
Oh and that was a year and a half ago
Same, using Niagara launcher now
@@romirder Android 11 really is a buggy mess
The only way to fix it is by switching OnePlus shelf off
@@nayan.punekar Nothing to do with android 11, I have been running custom roms of a11 and now a12 without any issues on oneplus 7 pro.
Watching this after buying my first oneplus phone, Nord CE 2 Lite 5G. I already rooted it, and at least with magisk there is way to hide root from some apps, my bank app refuses to work if it detects root but it works when i hide root from it.
Anyways part of why i chose this is that i wanted to root it and have option to install custom rom. My previous phone that was huawei, is stuck in android 5.1 because i cant unlock bootloader and now lot of apps are starting to require android 6, if i could install custom rom it would still do everything i need from phone just fine.
6:11 Honestly suprised Brandon didn't just lose the 8 pro and take the Oneplus 10 Pro from the shortcircuit episode.
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain - OnePlus
To be fair, they were only good for the first 3 phones. After that they become a direct competitor with the flagship brands.
Dr. STRANGE.
@@truemendus lol
I still miss the software from my OnePlus 7t. Thing was an amazing value. Being able to turn on the flashlight by drawing a shape of your choice on the lockscreen. Was so convenient.
I use the V for torch. I still have the 7t but it will be my last oneplus had the 3 as well
Same. Rocking the OP7 Pro still. Hard to let go of Oxygen Os, but it's declined and become buggy with time.
Op7t here too. Sim1 slot just doesn't register my sim anymore so I have to use sim2. Will be my last one plus
Yeah I'll also be switching from the 7T to something else once it EOL... (Or I'll root it and use lineage or so)
Op 7t here too, android 11 ruined the phone.
This is just another reason I run magisk and custom oses. One plus is still decent. Just have to know the right roms. I haven't used factory roms since I first got into all the aftermarket stuff
could you recommend one for 9pro? just in case.
@@OliverEvergreen I know evo x still makes roms for it. Cr droid isn't bad. Would be cool if bootleggers made stuff for it
can you recommend a custom rom for OP6?
I've noticed almost all those problems on both my Sony Xperia zx2 Compact, and Samsung ZFlip 3. These problems do not seem to be isolated to One Plus.
In particular, if you leave Android's "chat features" on, things will (often silently) fail to send. This is not unique to any one manufacturer - the solution, however temporary (the feature occasionally turns itself back on...) is to disable chat features.
Lmao, I love how this video comes a week after OnePlus paid for multiple sponsor spots
Wait, which videos? 🤔
@@_____alyptic I'm not sure if there were any on the main channel, but a couple on techlinked/shortcircuit. Don't remember the exact vids
@@_____alyptic Probably can't post the links cuz spam filter but if you check out the tech quickies "IT'S RAINING GPUs!!" and "Goodbye, Internet Explorer ☹" both have a sponsor segment for the OnePlus 10 Pro 5G. Mind you both of those videos were posted a mere 8-10 days ago.... :/
5:48 "But then it breaks again the moment my kids do something cute!" A legit and easy to empathize complaint that I don't think we would have gotten from Linus. The following shot of Yvonne's half-clone with bunnies was cute indeed, glad the camera worked there!
"Yvonne's half clone"
@@tanmay4217 could either be seen as extremely offensive to us in the Asian community or cute af 😅 luckily I ain't that sensitive
Edit: oh should explain, I've had people come up to my brother's baby and go awww so much likes like you and my brother asks in what way because the baby looks more like the mother and the usual answer is because they're both Asian 😅
@@jackthemagiccat4571 This is the same way for Asians seeing, for example, blacks as all looking alike. Caucasians and black folks all see us Asians as looking alike.
@@SUSHI4lyf yup, I've heard Asians say similar it happens to all races expect white(though that just could be me, I've never heard someone say all whites look alike but I've heard different subsets of POCs looking the same) tbh I've had every race day we look the same 😅 it's a universal issue unfortunately but I'll be frank I've heard it more towards Asians than my other POC friends but again it's because I'm of that race each person has a different experience if that makes sense
@@jackthemagiccat4571 And that's unfortunately why Asian hate crimes have escalated during this time of covid.
Actually the only software I'm missing and what just changed my life was the Samsung screenshot tool on the side as a widget with OCR text copy and paste. Or share screenshot without saving it..
Just moved from a OnePlus 6T that I loved to a new Google Pixel 6a. Did NOT consider another OnePlus (such as the 10 pro or 10T) because of bugs I had for about a year after the 6T's final update. The bugs in my case were: Pocket mode stopped working, had to turn it off; Auto brightness became untrustworthy, also turned it off; the camera would almost always hang then crash several times before I could use it. The first two issues were relatively minor and can be worked around but the lack of functionality was missed. But the camera issue was really bad with no workaround either resulting in a lot of frustration waiting to finally be able to use the camera or photo opportunities completely missed. There were apparently a lot of other bugs left unfixed in this final update that other users experienced that I did not. So I can see why so many decided to roll back to a stable build of Android 10, install a custom ROM, or buy a new phone like I did.
I was dismayed when I had to pay near Samsung prices for my OnePlus 9 Pro but never with the performance and ease of use... until they upgraded to Android 12. Now basic features are a hassle and they even managed to downgrade the camera with awesomely useful features, like manual switching to the macro mode, disabled except when the phone decides to use them at the most inopportune times.
This is also my biggest grievance. You can roll back to the android 11 version which is what I plan to do
@@TrickyZerg314 I want to, but I'm worried about messing it up and making things worse.
I updated android 12 on my OP9 and I really didn't like it so I found a way back to android 11 and it is so much better as android 12.
@@Quake210 Fair enough, I'm literally doing it right now so I'll let you know how it goes
@@runejackers8671 So you're saying 11 better in your opinion?
I've owned a OnePlus One and I loved it. Owned the OnePlus 5T which had an audio firmware issues they've never acknowledged, a 6 and 7T Pro but ultimately switched to Samsung despite hating their old OneUI. But since then Samsung has come a long way in improving their software and hardware. I love my S21 Ultra and I got what I've been missing for years: stable software with regular updates
A little over a year ago, I bought a Google Pixel 6, but it had several bugs, the worst being that my calls would go straight to voicemail. I took the Pixel 6 back to the store, and they told me that several customers complained about the same issue. The store offered to exchange the phone, however, the Samsung S22 was not available, so I opted for the OnePlus 9. The only issue I had was that the unlock sensor would not recognize my fingerprint at times, the problem was remedied in a future update. Since then, I had no more issues other that I don't like Oxygen OS 12. I'm patiently waiting on the Samsung S23.
One my problems with my 8 pro is not supporting Stereo output with Bluetooth connections.
Odd... I use airpod pros and the stereo works fine. Running 13 with the Bluetooth fix
Thank you for coming out with this video. I have been for months trying to figure out where all my storage is going (which I was assuming bloated apps were the problem) but this system dump issue is definitely my problem. I've been looking for a new phone and was going to consider a new OnePlus, but this video let me Dodge a bullet. Please come out with a new video about the best phones right now. Linus you're one of the few people I trust in phone reviews. You don't just read off the specs and call it a day but you actually use it for a good period of time and succinctly talk about the pros and cons of your experience.
Just watch MKBHD.
@@captinsparklezremix literally one of the worst reviews out there, he has no grasp on real life
For Samsung phone reviews, watch Thao Huynh on TH-cam.
You know, I was wondering what happened to OnePlus. There’s not nearly as much buzz for their phones now as there used to be a few years ago. I guess now we know why.
Moral of the Video: Don’t piss off the spouse &/or the kid(s).
Since Carl pei the "brain of oneplus" left their company it's all going to downhill
I bought the Nord…. Until it was on OxygenOS10 it was amazing…….Android 11(OxygenOS11) onwards it sucks…. Software is garbage. They removed features in android 12(OxygenOS12)… my last oneplus ever…..
I got one for free, it's FAR better than my old phone. I don't have any of these issues but I guess I'm lucky?
It's oppo but in oneplus name for NA now lol
They merged with Oppo, that's what happened.
5:47 same problem with Nokia 9 Purevieuw
one thing i noticed with their software was, whenever an update would be available that fixes a bug, something else breaks after updating, they RLLY need to fix that
The onplus 5t was the most flawless phone i have ever owned, got 3 years out of it. No software bugs whatsoever, extremely responsive, top of the line specs, a headphone jack and quick charge too. And for half the price of most of the other brands flagships. This was stock, no root or custom rom required. If they just made that exact same phone again with modern specs, sd 8 gen 1 or dimensity 9000, updated camera, faster quick charge and maybe 120hz i would buy instantly.
I still use the 5t and it is working great
gosh i finally broke my 5t last week. I'm here because I'm looking for a new android phone now and I don't know what to buy. I can't imagine buying something from the network carriers. I've had 3 One plus phones in a row, but all i hear now is one plus is not good anymore.
@@vidymetry141 I went from the OP5T to the Pixel 6. I'm pretty happy with the Pixel device. But keep in mind the that there isn't face unluck and the fingerprint is less responsive. Workaround for the fingerprint is adding the most used fingers for 2 or 3 times.
4 years on my 5T and still going strong
The edges are kinda banged up from drops but there are no major issues .Gonna jinx myself am I right 😅
@@pedrovervaeke4291 same here. Camera is better, other wise the most prominent improvement is that the screen is not cracked!
Sad to leave 1+ but it had to be done:(
I love videos like these.
They don't cost much if anything to make, but they provide so much more value than just buying and showing off the latest 5-figure PC components that I'll never afford anyway.
Thanks for the video it outlined to me what the situation is with ONEPLUS. My OnePlus 6pro was amazing and worked for me for over 3 years. I absolutely loved the phone. I "upgraded" to the OnePlus 8 Pro and the problems started, I upgraded to Android 13 and the face proximity sensor broke during a call the screen doesn't turn off. Not repairable in Poland at the moment because there are no parts available. I am disappointed.
Have the original OPO still working and wondering what I can do with it at this point. I did install Lineage OS on it a few years ago since it just runs really well with it. I also have an OP 7 Pro, sliding camera ribbon cable broke, OnePlus wanted to charge an arm and a leg to change it, solved it with a $25 camera off ebay and about an hour to spare to open and replace the part. I did have to install a bunch of different operating systems to narrow down the issue. The worst part was that the even though the front camera was dead, it also made my back camera stop working and caused some weird system instability problems. This also happened to happen just as I had to do an emergency trip to take care of my dad who was getting a kidney removed. In my panic, I bought a OP 10 Pro which works very very well, and I'm impressed, but I wish I had the chance to wait just 3 more days to buy the upgraded memory and storage for the same damn price, heck the phone hadn't even reached me and they put that thing on discount right there 3 days after I purchased the base 10 Pro (this really annoyed me). Given that I had to travel and I needed a working device to work remotely, I bit the bullet this time, but OnePlus' practices have become dodgy in every sense as of late, if Samsung had priority shipping I was ready to just purchase the S22.
I really liked the breakdown and the testimonies. I could see this being a semi-regular series when the opportunity arises.
And Andy's acting ,😁👌
Glad we could have some coverage of OnePlus from your team, thank you everyone! I currently own a OP 8 Pro & massively regret having accidentally upgraded to Android 12 - the update in the phone didn't explain that not only would I be upgrading to Android 12, but there would be huge changes to OxygenOS, most of which are straight downgrades if not outright bugs.
I really wish there were other competent Android phones that had a hard notification slider, I would likely jump to those in a heartbeat, but so far that is the one main thing holding me from switching off OP.
Im in the same position with my 8 Pro, really disappointed with the ColorOS merge. To many bugs in it and so many features are gone. I hate it
Install lineage os on it. Works like charm !!
@@shresthkumarlal285 i need it to work with banking apps, so thats not an option. Already had to go through that trouble to make it work with banking apps, not worth it.
But lineage is really good 👍
bro exact same thing happened to me, this update made me hate my 8pro
had the same issue on my op9, ended up downgrading the same day because the system almost made me throw up. You can downgrade using an APK and a zip file, it's easy but wipes the phone entirely (and you WILL get jumpscared by a qualcomm crash dump at startup).
I'm so glad you guys are addressing this. I've had a OP 3, 6 and 8 pro, and with the latest OS12 update that merged in ColorOS, it kind of sealed the deal for me that I won't be buying another OP phone (unless they decide to switch back to Oxygen for some reason). It's been so sad watching them fall from grace.
The only thing I disagree with is that I think OP HAS changed, a lot. They used to be pretty minimalist to save on cost. But over time, they started doing unnecessary brand deals with companies and celebs like Hasselblad and RDJ; spending R&D on gimmicky features most people will never ever use like an IR camera; shipping their phones bloated with apps I don't necessarily want like Facebook, Instagram, Netflix, Amazon, Prime video, Messenger, etc; spending more and more money on marketing instead of passing savings onto the consumer (which I guess I understand), and most importantly moving away from the stock android game which alienates some of their most important customers.
The company was built on enthusiasts who loved their near-stock OS, and they're turning their back on that enthusiast foundation in hopes of drawing in a larger market. But I think that's going to backfire. Enthusiasts helped them grow by word of mouth, and now I think they're going to cause their collapse by word of mouth. At least in the US market.
Got a n200 5g from tmobile for free with a new line and the only problem I've encountered has been lag when swiping up to close app tabs (I switched it from the dedicated buttons on the bottom). Have they had any updates since this video that has fixed some of their problems? does the oneplus 10 have these problems too?
I had a Oneplus 5 for over 4 years and it was the best successor for my LG G2, also an amazing phone back then. When switching over to the next one, Oneplus wasn't really a choice, unfortunately, because of high prices (also, didn't want to downgrade to the Nord series). Ended up buying a Realme GT 5G (the cool yellow one) by the same price of my OP5 back then. I believe Realme is the spiritual successor to Oneplus (inside BBK), not counting "Nothing", for obvious reasons. My brother bought the Realme GT2, which is also a great buy. I really recommend Realme now instead of Oneplus or even any other brand. They're good, price is fair, cameras are great, software runs smoothly, great specs and good looking. Still, I hope Oneplus gets back on track.
Ive had a 9 Pro for about a year now, it's my first one from OP and I also came from a longgg line of LG phones! I'm so disappointed I couldn't continue, but I've found OP to be pretty similar but also with some new stuff I like. There's a lot of phones id love to try from smaller/other companies with innovative designs but I'd have to get a whole different service plan or buy the phone unlocked and get a SIM with minutes, etc.
Right now for everyone to know, Oneplus peaked at the Oneplus 7T PRO and Oneplus knows it, it was the most bug free phone that had the balance of budget and flagship (At least from my experience), instead of balancing it now, they decided to completely break that balance and it is genuinely breaking the community... Not sure why would they do it...
I'm literally getting my fingerprints being useless around a month ago and the internal gallery application doesn't work anymore as it keeps crashing
Greed
Can confirm, I've been using a OnePlus 7T Pro (McLaren Edition) since it was released and I have minimal to no complaints, and coming from the LG G3 and LG G4 (both excellent phones at the time) it is the best phone I ever used, but this video made me reconsider whether my next purchase would also be a OnePlus phone.
@@psylencecy the best phone is probably going to be Pixel 7. I confirm that OnePlus has became a trash.
@[Mantis.cyber] xvs1[UNIT] tldr
My 7 pro was my breaking point. Having been with them since the 2, there's been a clear departure from the original values. After moving to the fold, there's still things I miss but it's a clear improvement. I just found it so odd that ltt were still using them as a sponsor after the lacklustre review on short circuit.
Like their breakup with TunnelBear, I feel like all the Oneplus 10 sponsor spots should be removed and addressed publicly until such time when this channel deems them worthy of purchase.
The 7 Pro was awesome. Definitely not what they stood for, but it was a great phone nonetheless, and probably the last great OnePlus phone too.
Got a 7 Pro and people can't even hear me in phone calls. And it's not a hardware issue.
@@biffrov same
I made the exact same move funnily enough, using hex, uad and some tweaks I feel I've got the best of both worlds.
Loved my 5T, but could never bring myself to buy another one when every time I have been shopping for a phone since, there has always been some kind of uproar about issues with OP phones. Really wished they were an option when I got my S22+, because had their reputation already not been in the gutter, I would have gladly purchased an OP over a Samsung.
Same, writing this on my precious OP 5T, bought it in 2017, 5 years, still going strong, although the battery isn't the same as before. I can milk out another year on this phone but now that I look at the market, I feel sad at its sorry state. Hardly any good options left. I'd probably try to get a replacement battery for the OP 5T and call it a day.
Longtime user of iPhones I looked for an Android when I needed dual-sim and Apple refused to serve that market. After an unconvincing experience with Xiaomi I switched to a OP5 and was quite happy, except for not getting Android Auto to work properly (I was actually hoping for Mirrorlink). Overall happy I continued with a OP6T and now OP7. I use Tasker for a few jobs but some don't work any longer because of WiFi or BT toggles - not sure if it's OP that didn't implement them in more recent Oxygen updates.
Anyway I was thinking about moving to the OP10T , but now I hesitate - but what phone brand is then the new OnePlus?
Man, it's a shame to see how this brand went downhill. First LG, now One plus. Hopefully brands like Nothing or Poco will step up and take the reigns where OnePlus failed. Or... maybe OnePlus can step up and fix their brand.
sooo disappointing
Trouble is that LG went steeply UPHILL in their last couple of years
It is disappointing to see each year there are fewer and fewer good options for Android phones here in the US. Basically all we are left with is Samsung and Google
I mean Nothing is made by one of the founders of OnePlus, so here's hoping.
LG was different though. They didn't fail, they just realized their phones made them basically break even. So they cut off the dead limb. They are fine with TVs, tablets, other various electronics and industrial things like chemicals, industrial machines and telecommunications products. The split system AC units they make are a good example of this. OnePlus is literally dyeing out.
Ok yeah, I'm feeling this. My OnePlus 6T recently broke (and I was already experiencing issues with it but I'd had the phone for well over 3 years) so I decided to just get the Nord phone. While yes, I understand I went from a (at the time) high end phone to something more entry level, the amount of frustration I have felt with this Nord is outstanding. Chat bubbles don't work correctly, sometimes not even appearing, apps not displaying properly and I'm a few instances popping up off center so part of the app is off screen, and the keyboard being so laggy on a messages screen that it will freak out when typing fast. At this point I think I'm tempted to try and get my 6T repaired and just keep the Nord to run my idle games.
I have a 8T and bubbles are the WORST
Thanks for the warning. I will not buy an 8T then used either. I'll try to get my 6T repaired (Warp Charge/USB-C port not working as intended) and live with it for as long as I can until a worthy successor (on the used market) comes along.
I had the OnePlus 6t until a year ago. Where I switched to the 9 pro but in fact I experienced the same things. OnePlus once was a flagship killer but know the normal series is expensive and the Nord series is just a way to fix the flagship killer image. Also I think it's a shame that there are know many more apps pre installed. On my 6t I didn't have that many apps pre-installed.
I was seriously thinking of replacing my Oneplus 5 with a newer model like the Nord or 9 but after seeing this video, I am having serious second thoughts. I loved the near stock android experience and great value that they offered but now I have no idea what to buy that has the similar qualities.
Hell no. Don’t go for oneplus again. It’s Color OS now. Oxygen OS is dead 😢
I'm in the same boat as you, was just about to order the 10t pro but found this vid,
I've had my 5T for about 4.5 years now, and I still love it. The battery is getting pretty bad however, so I'll likely have to replace it before it turns 5, and I don't think my next phone will be a OnePlus unfortunately. It's a real shame for all the reasons you mentioned about the company's old outlook and price points, and I just can't justify a new OnePlus given the no-longer 'flagship killing' prices and the abundance of better competition.
Had one too, but now switched to an iPhone. Camera is just so much better!
Do the battery sooner then later. I replaced the one on my 6t a few months ago. Feels like a new phone again. It's fast. And the battery lasts all day and then some again. Was only $17 on Amazon and took about 15 minutes with the help of a TH-cam video. The battery came with the necessary tools too!
I've had a (128gb) 5T for 4.5 years too! And it still works like a charm! Just recently upgraded to a Pixel 6 pro though, mainly for the cameras and software features. Seems like most of the bugs have been ironed out and the fingerprint scanner works good unlike some users reporting, maybe I'm lucky?😂. loving it so far!!
Hopefully the 6 pro will serve me as well as the 5t did
But that's the question, where do we move?
OnePlus' absence does leave a hole in the market. My friend was looking for one and there is literally no option. He ended up getting an iPhone which was way over budget as it was urgent for him.
Same here, red OnePlus 5T which I love dearly... 1+'s quality seems to have gone way down with Colour OS, and the cameras (or camera software) haven't caught up to the other flagships even though their prices have... It would be hard to choose them again.
I noticed that it mainly started after they decided to finally join with Oppo. My oneplus 8T runs amazingly in Oxygen os 11, and I tried to update to 12 but the software was so bad I had to delete my data and rollback. Maybe its cause they combined oxygen with Color OS from oppo. Either way I refuse to update and I've been thinking about installing a custom rom like paranoid android, made by some of the guys who made the original amazing Oxygen OS, that even has the gestures that were exclusive to Oxygen with much better software. I am just waiting till the 8T version comes out of alpha and into beta to go and install it.
Exactly the same situation with my 8t it turned into an absolute peace of shit after 12
I am in the same situation as you, but when i upgraded i didn't roll back, still you are completely right, the "upgrade" to 12 is a complete downgrade in comparison to the mutch better Oxygen OS.
My 8T on the other hand had s SHITTON of bugs on 11. Still has some on 12, but a lot less and more minor ones. I did like 11 better tho. Have been wondering if I roll back to it will the bugs come back... Should try it sometime.
I bought the 8T expecting sw would go to shiz. I'm on arrow OS. Clean. Fast. No bloat, no OnePlus spyware. Banking apps work. 8h+ SOT.
Sounds legit. I might have to go this route 👍
I had to replace my one plus nord 3 times, after that I switched to 8t, had an issue with my phone data not working, but fortunately it started working after the recent software updates.
Got the one plus Nord 2t and while I've only gotten 1 bug with the setup notification.other than that it's been a solid phone.and got it super cheap as well for £298 and the ear buds which came to £342.97 was a package deal. Only thing I'm worried about now is if this bug with the dump files is still happening.
As well as the insane charging speed. The battery graph is almost vertical it's insane it can fully charge from 0-100% in under 28 mins. even with battery conserving features enabled.has me worried long term
I was actually extremely happy with Oxygen OS 11. It just worked beautifully on my OnePlus 8. But since i made the unreturnable update to OS 12 things have gotten so bad. Basic tasks are a struggle now 😅 probably going to switch to the latest apple or samsung now.
Goto xda ! There's maybe thread related to rollback to oos 11
Why would you switch to a worse phone and OS? That's like saying you don't like using a gas stove in your kitchen because you think they are dangerous, so instead you switched to burning firewood indoors.
@@kuroodo_ i do love my customizability on Android a lot actually. But currently I just want something reliable... possibly like switching from gas to an induction stove hehe
I got OP8T as my first (and probably last) OP phone. OOS11 is good, it is best android experience I had at the that time of spring 2021. OOS12 ruined everything. Idk how come people talking about this just now, but when people talk about apple comparing to eveything else, it mostly goes down to software issues. Android phones always lack of good tuned software starting from basic functionality bugs and simple interface stuttering to complete disaster bugs breaking all system. OOS11 is still smooth and mostly fine (not without bugs tho), but 12 is a disaster. I rolled back to 11 after a week and my device feels good again, but if I was about to buy a new phone this year - I would have a really hard time to pick one. Honestly, I would be so desperate so I might even pick an iphone. That is what android phone manufactureres di to us.
@@kuroodo_ Having used both OnePlus phones, Samsung phones, and iPhones, this statement is just false on its face. iOS is less customizable, and I miss being able to access emulators without sideloading - but beyond that, the experience has been essentially flawless. Especially with the newer iPhones, there’s something on offer no android on the market can offer: insane battery life.
When I first got my hands on 1+1, I knew that this is gonna be something great. A bit later they launched 3T which I preordered. Absolutely loved the phone. I had 0 problems with the software or anything else really, and it was super cheap compared to other phones with similar specs. I then preordered 5T when it came out. Didn't need it, the 3T was still working fine but I wanted to support OnePlus and also get the little bit better camera. Everything after that didn't intrieve me so much, so I waited. Then came the 8 pro. It was definitely alot more expensive, but my 5T's fast charging stopped working so I decided to upgrade because of that, and also for the much better camera and display. Both the 3T and 5T I've handed out to friends to use and they are both still working fine. Even the 5T fast charging started working, not sure what was the problem.
I'm still using the 8 pro but I'm gonna need a new one soon. The battery life has decreased significatly and I have weird bugs where the phone judt freezes for a while. When I lock the phone and open it again, it works fine. This happens pretty seldom, propably once every week or two weeks. Rarely more than once in a day. It's not because of any programs, because sometimes it happens even in home screen when just unlocking the phone.
I loved OnePlus because it NEVER froze on me, had pretty close to 0 bugs and everything just worked like it was supposed to. I had an iPhone and Samsung flagships before that and they all had freezes, poor battery life etc. Didn't think OnePlus would ever be like that but I was wrong. My next phone propably won't be OnePlus unless they get their shit together.
Bro i had that charging issue for the longest time...turns out you just need to push the cable in the charger side a little harder
An issue I'm running into on the OnePlus 9 is that messages I received from other people will delete for no apparent reason. As well as my fingerprint scanner to unlock my phone will sometimes say that I moved to fast or that it was wrong.
I had a 6 for quite a while, but I upgraded to the 8 when AT&T was dropping their 3G and the 6 wasn't on their list of devices that would be unaffected by the change. I've been happy with it, but I don't think I'll be continuing with OnePlus after this phone unless they change some things. I almost didn't even go to the 8, but I managed to find it on a serious discount that brought the value of it back in alignment with my penny-pinching sensibilities. I'm hoping that by the time it finally dies, there will be a device in my budget with at least similar, if not better, specs. Right now, anything that I look at within the price I'm willing to pay doesn't measure up in specs. I shop like it's a computer. Processor, ram and storage are my big necessities. Cameras don't get used much, so almost anything is good enough for me these days, in that respect.