This is all YOUR fault - LG Wing Review
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0:00 Intro
1:01 What is this thing?
2:30 Software
5:55 Not so Auto
10:00 Hardware
14:51 Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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5 minutes ago
Haha
Bruh the whole reddit line was so cringe
No more LG support right?
@@elusivelectronyea
Ah LG, like it or not, this was the only phone company that dared to try new stuff even if it didn't work out
One of the last bastions of the kind of odd creativity we saw over a decade ago, until Unihertz came around anyways.
Which is exactly why they died. Too many attemtps at standing out while being mediocre with their normal phones
It was the only one who focus on audio,now we only got ASUS.
@@xPandamon their normal phones were quite nice, I still daily my G8s thinq. The only thing that I'd complain about after 3 years is the dying battery
Why charge something that works?
Never thought that LG is still giving so many updates for the Wing despite the closing of smartphone division.
The last few generations of LG flagship phones (since the G8) are getting 3 OS updates instead of just 2 for older phones. My last two LG phones are two of them and they got their last update in September 2022
Hey guys, I normally don't comment but I felt I needed to. My daily phone is an LG Wing and I have had NONE of these issues with it.
Especially the the screen issues: I have had mine for 2 years and have no scratches, no bubbles, and no wiggle.
The screen is NOT loose, in fact it's tight and satisfying the way it slides out.
I normally use it vertical but when I need to write an email or send a text I swivel and the smaller screen is perfect for the keyboard menu, it was designed for gboard and it works well.
I use it when I'm watching live streams so I can see the full content and the chat.
The gimble mode has been huge for me as a creator and the cameras are made for the live gimble feature.
This phone was made for hyper nerds, creators, and warranty voiding pirates.
It really gets a bad rap considering how great it is.
correct
LG wing is goated. the phone is amazing. His review almost seems like it came from a hater before he even got the phone and wanted to hate it. I as well used the phone for 2 years. I'd still have it if it wasn't for the fact my toddler got ahold of it and broke the screen. Only reason I didn't get a new one or attempt to fix it is because LG got out of the phone business. If they weren't abandoning cell phones I'd buy another one in a heartbeat. I have the Samsung S23 Ultra now and it feels like a downgrade in every aspect escept for the camera.
As a wing owner, half of the stuff mentioned in this video is BS.
I had an lg wing and the experience in the video was not mine. Lg wing was a gem and I’m sad they shut down their phone department. I do have a question I want a wing again and I’m wondering how the updates are now. Is it still supported?
@@brian530 for now yes, but it seems like it will soon end
Quick note: If you use the included LG keyboard, it automatically shows up on the bottom screen when the phone is swiveled out and you click on a text prompt in the top screen. It's the 3rd party keyboards that don't work as well.
I've been using my Wing for 2 years now and was like why is the keyboard not on the bottom when swiveled. The first thing I did when I set it up was install Gboard and a custom launcher.
Typing this on the stock LG keyboard through the bottom screen rn
I would have appreciated if Linus shared this knowledge
@@gerardomorales151 ..... wut? he was having this issue too and didn't know this solution.
Sorry, let me rephrase. I wish Linus would have shared he switched away from the non-stock keyboard. The way Linus brought up the issue with the digital keyboard made it seem like it was an LG oversight.
That seems like something that should be like on every bit of paper to get to the phone. And several screens before you change the keyboard lol.
LG deserves massive respect for not only keeping headphone jacks, but also putting a quad dac in there to make it sound amazing. I miss their flagship series
I miss my G8 so much! I was forced to get this A52 5G because of 3G switch off, despite my G8 being 4G, they wouldn't accept it for some reason. I hate modern phones so much, this A52 "piece of crap" is so buggy, the fingerprint sensor sucks, I hate under the screen sensors, they're all terrible. I also tested their speed with the same app, this newer phone is half the speed of the G8. Phone companies are full of shit, they just want you to buy a new phone.
This phone makes me so aggressive
@@thedarkdragon89A52 is a budget phone, G8 was a flagman
And that's why my LG V30 is still going strong on its second battery!
I don't think there's a jack on this phone
11:02 - in German we call that Vorführeffekt (demonstration effect), when everything goes smoothly once you'll show it.
OF COURSE there's a German word for it.
As a previous wing owner, you could have gone to the app setting where you can choose to remove/hide or uninstall multiple apps.
LG was the ONLY phone builder who refused to just accept the rectangle slab as the only acceptable form-factor and not only dared to try out new things, but also doing so with throwing its whole corporate weight behind those attempts. I really wish they would still be making phones.
It's too bad none of them were very practical or useful. Fun and cool? Yeah. Of course. Actually useful? Rarely.
it's also the only company with a relatively non-bloated OS outside of google pixel
@@-ThatGuy- most of the mainstay android features we have now were first pioneered by LG, they never got the credit they deserved. e.g always-on display, wide angle camera / multi camera set up.
LG offers Quad Dac in their flagships, DTS X 3D, Dual display, military standard build quality,ip68, OLED displays, custom skin but they won't preinstall any bloatware. Decent ram management, superb design and colours, glass+metalic finish, more importantly they didn't removed 3.5mm Jack except in LG Wing.LG is for innovations. Versatility,stands out in new unique things.
All respect for LG but I think the current form factor is still perfect in our time. The real thing that these manuf need to do is to make smaller and slimmer phones again like how Asus do with their phones and that luxury type phone from Xiaomi that is small and realistically designed for a human hand. Phones nowadays are as huge as a TV XD. It makes me cringe whenever I see a 4'11 human hold a giant phone. If I want a to watch on big screens, I have a TV and a dual monitor pc lmao
Few comments on the LG Wing:
4:00 The TH-cam app used to work better with the LG Wing, it's the more recent version of the app that doesn't go from full screen back to the regular window size because TH-cam made it so it auto maximizes video when a phone is horizontal, which is why it freaks out (it never used to).
4:17 It's not Google Maps, you're not using the 'LG Keyboard' that comes with the phone, it will go to the bottom screen if the phone is in Wing mode.
5:50 Same thing when using remote desktop with the 'LG Keyboard' you're using the 'Microsoft SwiftKey Keyboard' it doesn't know to auto switch to the lower screen.
Also another thing worth covering is that if you connect it to a USB Monitor you can use a full screen interface similar to Samsung's Dex interface (another reason why there's that track pad)
12:30 You're meant to use the on screen volume control by swiping down on the lower screen when the phone is in Wing mode rather than the physical buttons, also if you turn on the Always On Display a double tap on the screen will wake it rather than having to use the power button.
cope
@@ggill1313 wym cope lmao dude's just saying how the experience should be
I've been using an LG wing too. Apart from only 1 or 2 minor software issues mentioned here, I have never even faced these serious problems Linus has.
Yeah he's just complaining
@@udhankarr1004 linus can't be an authority in tech reviews if he doesn't know the tech he is reviewing🤣🤣🤣. i find him hilarious!! hahaha! as if he is just an ignorant user! another hahaha! he should quit if he can't cope with tech! another hahaha!
Actually, in the app drawer you can organize and delete applications more quickly, you just have to open the drawer, click on the three dots at the top right and touch where it says organize applications and that's it, you can freely move the apps apps and delete them without leaving the app drawer. 😊
I was a person who used LG back from the g6 and the OG stylo series and had quite a few of their phones. They weren't always the most up-to-date with their processors and hardware, but their design philosophies and the way that they made phones that were unique was always a really cool thing to me. Before the foldable phones and stuff came along and became the way they are today, they had the LG g8x, which came with a dual-screen accessory that was essentially a case that fit around the body of the phone to add an extra inner screen. It used the USB-C port to power the extra inner display and smaller outer display that could show the time and notification icons when the device was closed. They also had one for the V60, which was the phone that I had, and I believe the last phone they made that was officially sold in the US (correct me if I'm wrong). They essentially made a "folding phone", and to be honest, it was really cool, but finding a use for the accessory was difficult as to me the fact that it wasn't a singular display that folds in the middle kind of made it harder to find uses for it as well.
I think the thing that sent LG under was the fact that they'd throw their whole company at these devices, but because they weren't as popular as the Samsung or Google phones, it was really hard to get the software support needed to really make those phones come to life, which is really a shame. They had their own proprietary apps and whatnot but you could uninstall them and I don't ever really recall them installing your phone with a bunch of bloatware from the bat out of all of my time using them. I think they treated their customers well in their time in the industry, but because they weren't pulling the apple and Samsung marketing stuff they just didn't get as far with the general consumer population and therefore didn't get backed up enough by all of the app developers because realistically with how little people used these niche devices and accessories there wasn't really a reason to put a whole lot of effort into making sure they worked perfectly all the time.
All-in-all, I'm glad you stuck to your word and used it for a month, I personally would've recommended a v60 because at least the dual screen accessory would have been similar to your previous daily driver, but I think showing off the last phone they ever produced to the masses is a really cool thing since they didn't really get a huge spotlight over here in North America.
Quick Edit after the fact: In all of their phones I don't think they ever removed the headphone jack ONCE, despite the fact that a lot of the major players were doing it, and they also really, really cared about the quality of the features they had when it came to their more "basic" phones. I really think the wing was one of the harsher ones because honestly it's just a really difficult form factor to work with. It's really a shame that they had to leave the industry, but I also feel like sometimes they tried too hard to make these new innovations/gimmicks when they could've kept making more of their good, more budget friendly devices with quality headphone jacks, displays and software.
I went through 3 of these phones. Each was faulty and crashed horribly. I really was sad. I wanted so much for the Wing to be amazing.
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why did you subject yourself to it 3 times? Maybe a second, but a third?
I LOVED MY lLGv50
I did not realise that I have been lucky, my Wing has been ok.
The fingerprint reader is not great, and second screen needs protective film to not scratch, but generally not any signifant software bugs. Only big bug is that if I move chrome to lower screen, half of the top screen stops responding touch. Chrome must be open using chrome icon on lower screen to top screen work ok.
So in short.........
You're a slow learner.
I loved LG. They had plenty of misses but they tried things that nobody else did. I miss their finger print reader / power button on the back in the perfect spot.
G8 was probably the best
IR BLASTER
Lg was my first cool phone I loved it LG G2
@@tonylazutto5794 im still rocking it - it's bulletproof
5:49 thats because you use 3rd party keyboard, the 1st party one from LG does show correctly on the bottom screen
and emulating 3DS/DS games would be pretty cool on this... if the emulators had support :D
So glad that you are also testing the Fairphone. That's the one where I actually want to know your opionion because I am seriously considering switching to it from my very old phone. I was pretty disappointed that the Reddit trolls won out, but now I'm hopefull again.
Just consider what you do and look at the capabilities of different phones, the opinions of the reviewers shouldn't matter too much unless their usage aligns with yours. That's why I miss channels like Erica Griffin
I actually loved LG Phones and the way that they didnt give in to what a phone should be, But rather what a phone CAN be.. and i always respected that. They did phones others were to scared to do.
Meh, I'll keep my Nokia 6300 thanks.
And that's why they suck harder at making mobile devices than ZTE... Standards exist for a reason and it's because they fucking work. Innovation is great, but not testing said innovation before release is the textbook definition of stupidity. LG's phone development is also the textbook definition of trash. Which is why they stopped developing phones.
I had the LG G4 for almost 2 years and it was a good phone. Liked the fingerprint reader on the back.
I had the thinq with its dual screen case. I actually loved it. Only replaced it when Verizon accepted it as a trade it for $800
Thanks for sharing
As a Fairphone voter I'm so happy he's testing that one as well now.
For the lolz, maybe rehire Colton to test the Unihertz as well?
What happened to Colton?
@@darkdraconis fired as always
@@PrograError lmao it's a joke?
Just searched it on Google didn't knew it's a running gag, never came to me
Like at the lan where he says you can get rid of old stuff and Linus grabs him and goes "any 1 need a Colton?"😂
At this point I'm just under permanent stress anticipating a sponsor segway in the end of every sentence
That screen wobble when closed is physical haptic when typing.
The LG V60 was a beast of a phone. Had an amazing SD 865 processor, a huge 5000mA battery, 8gigs of ram, quad dac and 15w wireless charging. All it was missing was a 90 or 120hz display but that was it. LG should've toughed it out and stayed in the mobile phone market.
That battery must have lasted for days. 865 was very power efficient.
@@Cozzmy13 paired with a 60hz display, it was. I would've kept it had it not have charging port issues. I also got a great trade in value at T-Mobile. I forgot to mention it had micro SD support!
Honestly, while I also enjoyed LG’s phones, as someone that sold phones for many years, they just did horribly in the market (even with LG giving VERY generous incentives for selling their phones). I’m willing to bet they only covered R&D on most of the phones they released at best. Yeah, they definitely had their passionate fans, justifiably so, but there just weren’t enough for them to keep going. I mean why keep struggling to recoup costs when you are a market leader in other markets?
It's a beast NOW I'd say(given the low price you can get it for today). But it's specs were pretty standard for high end phones when it was released, and those other phones were getting 90HZ+ screens as well. The S20FE for example had the same specs pretty much, and a 120HZ screen and the v60 had a lower res screen than the V50. Still, it had that sweet dac, was pretty durable(except for the USB C being iffy for some people) and a decent battery. The camera software improved over time. It had that gimmicky second screen, some people liked that.
Until it started to crap itself the V20 was nice and had replaceable batteries. Also dual Sim and microsd.
Denis is too good at making sponsor segments enjoyable
I thought Linus fired him.
please, more sponsor segments by Denis. They're the only ones I truly enjoy watching
It's kinda a secret channel superfun section.
They are pretty bad tbh.
@@necroboxic8526he did he just trespasses every day does work and leaves for no reason
I've owned an LG wing for almost 3 years now (got mine on March '21) and I haven't had HALF the issues described on this video.
No scratches or dust on the second screen. No scratches on the shell of the phone. I did crack my front screen but the phone had a serious fall and I'm surprised it even works after that fall, let alone survive with only a few cracks on the corner of the screen.
The front screen didn't get loose at all. AT ALL! 3 years (and a HARD fall) and I tried to see if I could feel any "looseness", as Linus said on the video, and it had zero.
The software is cool once you get used to it, I did have issues on the first days but now I use other phones and I feel "cramped", I'm so used of the extra screen space whenever I need it, it's feels weird not to have it.
And I never use Android auto from the Wing. Not that I don't like it, it's just that if you mount your phone correctly on the dash, it's functionality is waaaaaay much better than what Android Auto provides. Just connect the phone via Bluetooth so you can hear audio from the car's speakers and you can use the phone to listen to music, navigate AND use it as a dashcam all at the same time. DO THAT with Android Auto (or any other phone for that matter).
Also, the wow factor when you show the swivel to any "tech geek" and see their eyes widen... Absolutely precious.
All in all, the LG Wing is a decent phone. Of course it's not a flagship but it's way better than chat Linus makes it to be. And, honestly, Linus's critiques lately... More miss than hits... Thought this guy knew his stuff. Guess he cares more about clicks and likes now than actually reviewing products.
9:52 Jake: So are you my real Dad? 🤣😂🤣
Shutout to the editor: taking the time to put those very real messages on screen, we appreciate it!
Also I would love this kind of video every now and then, it's really nice to see the weird/bad tech that most of us will never otherwise experience
For what it's worth, I really hope you end up doing a fairphone daily drive test at some point!
I'd also love to see this too!
The world would love it if they got some more attention!
Isn't that what he said he'd be doing at the very end
he says he's gonna do it around 14:20
i came to comment section just to say this...
I would love a handheld keyboard trackpad combo with a phone holder like the ones you can attach to many game controllers
I had the wing for a few years, and I used to flip the phone so the main screen was in portrait and the second screen was to the right. It was way better for multi-tasking in that orientation IMO. Even now I still miss having the 2nd screen but didn't want to buy a used replacement.
My absolute favorite lg feature was the ability to control the volume of every app. A lot of games just allow you to turn sounds/music on or off. With my lg phones, I could turn them down so I could quietly hear the app while still being able to listen to podcasts.
you could do that on Samsungs too
New Androids allow it in general. Redmi does it now.
Yea stock android has been having that feature since Android 11 if I can remember... it just falls on Samsung, Redmi etc to adopt that feature into their skin.
it's been an lg feature since android 5.0 i've remember been eable to do than on my LG G3 and LG nexus 5
I've owned Motorola, Nokia, LG, Sony, Samsung phones and they all had this ability.
A LG Wing user here; only the LG Keyboard opens on the bottom screen. And the waking/fingerprint/phone black screen issues came with the Android 13 update sadly. Besides that I agree mostly with your issues.
oh, my fingerprint reader works fine, even with Android 13
I was actually seriously tempted by the Wing, having Plex play on the top screen and Waze on the bottom. Ended up getting the Velvet for the headphone jack and the potential of a dual screen case that I never was able to get.
Why are you watching TV while driving
@@krZabii you're not exactly watching, unless you have a custom super-cruise control (LOL!). But you can have a movie on with the hearing-impaired audio, play music videos, audiobooks, or long-form YT videos. I mainly do this for long road trips.
It's sad that LG didn't get the recognition they deserved. Still daily driving my LG v60 and hope it will last a couple more years. I love the inbuilt DAC and the option to add a secondary screen with a case.
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M with LG phones you always had a pretty clean android experience with a couple of added LG apps. The update cycles could have been better though but that is a problem that most phone manufacturers share.
I love my v60, unfortunately I broke my screen and its nearly impossible to fix these phones.
@babaXY do you have software issues with it?
Nah, LG is trash. What they did with the Stylo 6 shouldn't be overlooked.
@@Namenloser_ none at all. The dual screen works fine for me, too.
I really wish LG had been given a fair chance and that people would have voted for the LG V60 with the dual screen cover. It's fantastic and even has an audio jack.
As well as the ever-disappearing micro SD card slot expansion! You can carry the LG V60 around with a 1 TB micro SD card and use it as an external hard drive.
I kind of wanted Linus to get the Samsung xCover 6 Pro.
It's drop-proof and waterproof. Comes with a headphone jack and microSD slot. It's modern in performance and features. Has 5-Year of support. Is actually built to be repairable. And has a stupidly long battery life, which can easily be doubled or tripled in a matter of seconds by hotswapping thanks to it's User Removable Battery.
In my opinion, it is much better than the Fairphone 5. That won't age too well, making it's 7-Year support basically a moot point, unlike the Samsung.
@@ekintekoI just got the xcover6 pro as a work phone on Thursday. Haven't set it up yet since they aren't activating them until tomorrow, but this gives me hope since the phone it's replacing is the sonim xp8 running android 8 oreo,which was awful from the start 5 years ago.
I miss my LG G8X ThinQ with the Dual Screen. I accidently smashed it and has been wanting a new one ever since.I was given a crappy One Plus phone thats been giving me issues ever since I got it. I loved my LG I had an LG Since the LG G2.
Exactly! If you want to see true LG prowess, get a V60 ThinQ or even a G8X ThinQ. I'm currently watching this video on a G8X with my headphones plugged in the Quad DAC!
Such a good phone.
this wing phone reminded me of the LG crystal phone back about 14 years ago i believe. they came out with a slide phone that had a touchscreen number pad that was see through. that's why it was called the crystal. and i remember thinking that it was really cool and innovative. though i was still into the buttons so i never got that phone. my friend had it
5:04 There is a seam.
Really happy you enjoyed your time with the Wing Linus! You should have asked some of us that have been using it for a while for all the tips and tricks, probably would have enjoyed it even more!
I don't know at what point in the video you got that he enjoyed his time with it
This phone design is literally the worst. So far from the everyday phone it can be. It’s just a gimmick
@@Exorion1er Sorry that was sarcasm. I forget that doesn't translate well to text comments.
@@DevonDoesTech ah, my bad then !
@@chrissjogren6843 That's an interesting opinion, what makes you think it's just a gimmick?
LG will be missed, they really don't bloat their phones too bad and they tried some interesting experiments like the Wing here. The V series holds a special place in my heart having had one in my pocket for nearly a decade at this point. Their no compromise approach to audio especially is what kept me coming back, and the V60's dual screen case pretty much succeeds in what the Wing here failed to deliver. I would love to see you guys take a look at them!
I was so hoping that they'd stick with it, because I could see the merit of the form factor.
Sort of like Surface Pro 1, which was far from perfect, but M$ stuck with it and now its probably the best of both world tablet/laptop on the market.
I really missed my V20 😢😢
That's the problem they experimented with and moved on they needed to actually stick with something
I really really loved their LG G3 and it's laser focus camera
Nice review👍. Glas to hear that the Fairphone Had a Fan and geht's maybe a review from an big TH-camr.
It could be useful for gaming, you can have the game on landscape screen and gamepad buttons on the portrait one.
My favourite phone of all time is the LG G8. Still my daily driver. It was part of LGs "promised upgrades" set of phones AFTER the announced foreclosure. Truly great device today!
A bit smaller than the V60, but has a beautiful QHD P-OLED display, Hi-fi Quad DAC (Producing the BEST audio quality and experience with a good pair of headphones), a 3.5 headphone jack, and Micro SD card support up to 2TB of external storage.
I personally feel that phones are now regressing in some areas, removing features that were genuinely appreciated by many.
I can't find any device that I can confidently say will replace the experience that I've gotten with my G8. Sony comes close with the 3.5mm headphone Jack and SD card support, but their flagship price is more than I'm willing to pay and they lack Quad Dacs.
The Pixel 8 Pro seems interesting with the recent Pixel updates that were dropped a few days ago.
For now, I'm going to keep rocking this timeless device!
#LG
Does it still get updates?
That's my only concern that kept me from looking at something like that.
Still rocking my LG G4. It's... not a great experience anymore
I just ordered a regular pixel 8 mainly because I'm absolutely sick of 6.7+" screen sizes. My gaming in the go is sudoku puzzles and brain games and if the screen feels to small I can always... Wait for it... Hold it closer to my face. Ive got fairly big hands but I've broken a lot of bones in my hand so those stretches get rather uncomfortable with a bigger phone.
@@RowantuYou can get a brand new s21 FE for like $200. I still have my S20 fe and after four years the battery still lasted me all day. Just an idea.
@@Ballissleandroid 12 was last os update like others flagships from 2019
I find it great to ssh into servers for maintenance. The stock keyboard shifts to the bottom display and I get the full top display to see terminal readouts.
When i was using my wing i used the LG keyboard and the Google keyboard and both would default to the bottom if you had it open and wanted to type.
@@lonewolfsstuck Linus was using the Microsoft Keyboard
@@lonewolfsstuckYep, same here, Discord in landscape with the keyboard at the bottom is hilarious
@@wedge9t No idea why lol. It's like he's intentionally trying to be obtuse.
he probably didnt realize the microsoft one broke it@@CockatooDude
Good luck finding a protective case for that
I love the idea of the formfactor, I just wish someone fleshed it out
During the G2 and G3 era, LG was years ahead of everyone else on ergonomics and design, it's amazing how fast they lost that lead before completely burning their phones division to the ground :(
It only happened because reviewers were paid by Samsung to push their phone and absolutely shit on LG. All these "tech influencer" were the reason LG died and they aren't sorry
The G3 was so good
Nowadays, the only G2 and G3 they sell are OLED TVs 😂
One of the issue was that LG never did proper marketing for their mobile lineups. Which is why they didn't get enough attention. And since there weren't a lot of users there weren't a big recognition that LG made good phones. So it became more of an enthusiast phone.
But man I love the Quad DAC they have on the G7 and V35. It sounds so good with mid tier earbuds or headphones.
As a G3 owner, calling 4 full seconds of input delay between touch and feed back "years ahead of everyone else" is downright deranged. I wasted 300 bucks on that thing.
I'm really excited to hear the thoughts on the Fairphone 5 in a month or two. The phone's already pretty expensive, so I can't really justify/afford paying a huge amount in customs too, but it is very appealing! Sad that they took away the headphone jack though - here's hoping they don't also remove the microSD tray with the 6.
Murena sells fairphones in the US, so you dont have to import them, and they said that they're working on getting the fairphone 5. They do come with their degoogled android ROM but you can always roll back to stock android.
They took away the headphone jack?? I thought the whole point of the phone was to be a worthy alternative?
@@Bassquake76The point of the phone is to be an eco friendly alternative to mainstream phones. Most new phones don't have headphone jacks because they create issues with waterproofing and packaging. It sucks, but the headphone jack is far from a dealbreaker. Just stick a dongle on your headphones and move on with your life.
I'm running a Fp4 in the northern US on U.S. Mobile. Its not too bad, but to get the most out of it you have to flash alternate firmware and be all about the FOSS lifestyle. I went with lineage, and have no issues outside of worse battery after the last update (tho its still better than any phone I've had). You sacrifice a bit of performance and camera quality compared to other flagship phones, but thats not exactly FP's goal, and meets my expectations for a more ethical device.
One issue is a phantom input bug that occasionally spazs the screen when I'm grasping the bottom right corner; really annoying, but I just avoid that corner now. One thing I hate is the lack of headphone port. I feel the company was disingenuous in there reasons for removing it, confirmed with their less eco friendly Bluetooth earbuds/phones. Also, its a bit of a pain to unroot the phone for each Lineage update, but thats more of a nitpick.
Overall love it, and recommend for someone who wants a more ethical phone. Just don't expect it to be what its not.
Simple review: Overpriced, underpowered
I felt that "und exactly" coming and it made me giddy with excitement for some reason
Thank you for featuring my post in this video!
That sponsor segment was absolutely amazing, love the running gag
What was really lovely is the reference to the Linus vs Dennis PC Build Simulator video, where Dennis insisted that thermal paste belonged in the socket.
I am very happy you are trying out the Fairphone after all, very interested to see how it stacks up!
I never thought I would enjoy the ads in the videos more, since Dennis makes them
That’s not rattling. That’s advanced haptic feedback.
Man, these sponsor spots, absolute pieces of art, thanks.
Also the LG Wing was def a phone I wanted, back when LG still made phones (it was expensive as heck, though).
LG Wing user here! I absolutely love this phone! I do want to note that only the stock LG Keyboard works as intended with the secondary screen. If you download Gboard it will not work how you want it to Linus! You goof lol. Glad you got to experience this phone! Regardless if it was more negative for you.
I'm really glad, your going try the fairphone. I'd been hoping for a review for a long time
I really want to see this concept be brought up again! Sure, with improvements of course both hardware and software.
The last LG phone I had was the G4 and it was the best phone there was at the time. They did really user friendly stuff, like adding a very very minor vertical curve length-wise that made it easier to use as a phone! The double tap to wake I believe also was born on this phone, too. Industry changing. I really really loved LG
The G4 was my favourite phone, and the V20 was a close 2nd
The buttons on the back of the phone was pretty cool. I had a g2 and g3 or 4 I think, I had 2 generations of them. LG made some good shit back in the day
Mine too I loved it so much, great camera, great controls, user replaceable battery, if I could just swap a board in there with larger storage and a more powerful chip I'd still be using it today
Wasn't the G4 infamous for dying out of the blue due to a hardware issue?
@@txcforever yeah some of the earlier revisions used really cheap solder that would crack under the chips and when that happened the phone would stop working. They eventually fixed this and mine wasn't affected but it was a pretty big deal at the time
Linus you know the internet. This is exactly what was going to happen. The community cannot be trusted. I hope lesson learned, but I bet a similar thing is going to happen again
BoatyMcBoatface say what?!?!
They could have stuffed him an SH-01J so there's that.. I mean it runs Android! :P
I don't watch Linus because he knows the internet. I watch Linus because he knows the internet and still manages to repeatedly get trolled. Quality stuff.
I mean, the "F(x)tec Pro1-X" exists with its swing out keyboard.
I had an LG Phone since the G3. I think my favorite LG Phone was the LG V20 with its second display for quick access and easy removable battery which was great for Pokémon Go.
I switched to the LG G8X Thinq (vomit name) and loved the dual screen that was free with the phone. I may not have used the second screen as much but it felt great when I did use it. Especially since it was a glass screen.
I have the wing and TH-cam was not doing that for me try updating it 4:18
5:16 😂 "it's now out of fashion to be able to copy part of a text" XD I feel that, really one of the fashion trends along the removal barrel jack
I really liked the ad spot with Sarah and Dennis. I would love to see more ads with other people from the team!
Can't find this phone in The Netherlands and I am shocked to see it's been around for 3 years already!
This makes me miss my LG G2. What a GREAT phone it was for it's time. Among the best if not the best of them all!
that ad hurt
Ha loved the sponsor spot! Go Sarah and Denis!
From my experience, the keyboard always showed on the bottom screen, just you had to use the LG keyboard, that seems to be worthy sacrifice for me, and if you ever wanted to change it back to GBoard, there's a dedicated button to do so if you don't use gestures for navigation, still worthy trad of by my experience. But yeah it's slower than I'd like and buggier than even my V40 before this, but I can't help, but love it for what it's worth. Only thing I hate about it, is absence of 3.5mm jack, what was always highlight about LG phones :(
The LG V60 has a headphone jack with a Quad DAC and micro SD card storage. You can also get a dual-screen case for the LG V60.
muh customization
9:46 The notifications barging in first thing in the morning or first use of the phone in let's say... 8 hours happens on my Samsung S20 Ultra as well. Makes me question if it's just an Android thing entirely. Focus and DND is not enabled, so makes me thing it does it as a courtesy thing, or as a battery-saving thing
Those miniclips and especially the sponsor parts realy spiced up the video for me 😊❤❤❤❤
Dennis is a mad genius! Those sponsor spots where THE best!
Its a good production, but I wonder if the sponsor is really going to get their money's worth.
People watching this channel are likely to be the people who enjoy making their own PCs and tinkering with them.
Ihave so many friends who watch tech content who couldn't even unscrew their GPU
@@smalltime0 well not everyone does that when he gets older. Sometimes you just pay the extra bucks to build the PC for you. That ain't me, but there are enough people out there that think that way. If i had to build a PC for someone related that aren't my parents i would do it that way so I'm not 100% tech support.
@@smalltime0 Well, it depends. I can see some videos being watched by non-tech people that would buy a build-redux machine.
Not this video though. But the secret shopper would be a perfect video for this ad.
don't be a dennis.... ok >.
Ah, picture in picture. It's always interesting seeing how my youtube app automatically applies it when I'm in the US, without downloading any updates, and then losing it again when I go back home.
Fairphone 5 video when? Currently on the fence about it.
For route audio through usb c..you need to enable it in develepor mode
My problem with these kind of designs, from the days of clamshell phones, is that they have a flex cable permanently moving. And that means they have a limited life, because we know how godawful hard is to repair a phone for the regular user. Looking forward for mandatory replaceable batteries too.
I had an LG G4 back in the day and I've missed the rear-mounted buttons on every single phone I've had since. That thing was just the best, RIP to a real one.
I kinda wished LG did something with the old design of the LG KS 360. Loved it.
oh good i was hoping youd try the fairphone
After this I would really love to see you daily drive the FairPhone!
Edit: Love that he’s actually doing this! Excited for more content on the Fairphone!
I agree. Would love to see it.
reddit likes being counterproductive.
open source hardware had a chance at being in the public view and they tanked it for memes
@@manitoba-op4jx Yeah I was super disappointed when I saw the vote flipped. Incredibly lame, but typical of reddit.
@@manitoba-op4jx That is why you should never listen to reddit when it comes to voting
Yeah the new one. I want it!
Wild that they left out the headphone jack. That was the one thing LG users never complained about... I miss my quad DAC so much
Happy to deliver
It also fights vampires
I love that line, Don't be a Dennis
When you get a new android update.. Until you unlock the phone it doesn't give you notifications.
That isn't just an LG thing.. It happens on my S23 Ultra as well
As an active Wing user I can understand a lot of the complaints. I have workarounds for many of them but that doesn't make it any better of a phone.
I love it and am willing to put up with the quirks. Even the ones Linus didn't find in his time using it. And as someone who runs their phones into the ground (I used a Pixel 1 before the Wing) I'll be happy to live with my Wing until it gives up on life and I boomerang it into the sunset.
I'm very interested in a one month fair phone review, it's such an amazing concept, and the 4 was great.
I'm watching the sponsor segments instead of skipping them. Well done whoever decided to start making them so goofy. Dennis is great
Dennis was the one behind them, I suspect.
If only all ads on youtube would be like this. Maybe then they would stop having adblocker issues
The concept of this phone reminds me a lot of my first phone: the Samsung Juke. The screen flipped out in the same way but went 180 degrees, exposing the keypad and controls. I heard from other kids my age that these things got broken all the time. I’ve always been careful with my stuff and I still never trusted that thing. I was very happy to move to an iPhone 4.
Cool the outcome we expected lol. Can you try the Fairphone now please!
For clipboard copy on Android for apps that don't allow it, get into the task switcher. (I forget the gesture as I still use the three bottom buttons, thank you to Android for allowing that.) If you use the 3 bottom buttons, it is the square button. On the task switcher there is a "select" feature that allows you to select text on the snapshot of the task. Sorry, I'm explaining it poorly, but it has saved my bacon several times when I needed to copy and paste some text out of Facebook (for example).
LG was kinda the last company to still make janky innovative phones and I think that's one of the reasons that made them to stop making phones
I had a LG X Screen as my first Smartphone and I absolutely loved it, it was one of the coolest things ever to have a separate task bar from your main screen or even controlling the music with the main screen being off
i really hope we get a update on the experience with the fairphone 5
LG is definitely a company that deserves respect for how innovative they were.
I actually have an LG Wing that I won for free at the beginning of the year. I've been dailying it ever since. It has some interesting quirks with the software, including the fact that I can't get to my app drawer if I unlock the phone from the AOD instead of pressing the power button first. And yeah, lots of apps don't work on the second screen. But I actually love to use the swivel mode for TH-cam just as a comfortable way to one-hand the phone and still watch in full screen. I've also discovered that it's kinda fun to use in swivel mode with the large screen vertical and holding the small screen off to the side, if you want to double app with something like Instagram reels.
Unfortunately my phone is carrier locked and I am stuck back on A10. But maybe that's a good thing because I haven't experienced almost any of these issues in the video. I have to say, maybe it's not the best phone, but it's just got a really nice overall feel, and the cool factor is off the charts (at least in my eyes.) I love showing it off to people and seeing them freak out. I keep thinking about switching phones to get updates and a smaller, lighter phone, but I always end up staying with it.
RIP LG, you were the only original ones in a sea of glass rectangles
The wing satnav usage would be awesome. Have music on the lower screen and maps on top
Should've had the LG V60 with the extra screen as a option. Killer phone still being used today. Also, double tap to wake was an LG first. Heck, i still use my LG V40 and a pair of Peerless Audio Status Between Pro ear buds which uses the aptX codec and has basically the best sound through BT 5.2. And yes Lenny, the V40 is nicer than the Joke 9.
I just opened a brand new LG V60 and just like all the V-series, they can push a pair of 600Ω Sennheiser HD800's which is due to the 2Vrms 3.5mm headphone jack with ESS SABRE's 32bit qDAC to clean up the audio. Especially FLAC files and mvk. for video. Also, the USB-c to HDMI comes in handy. I could go on and on about the right LG phone. Like i said before. The LG V40 is still serving me well. With some Status audio with the V-series is a match made in heaven. The V-series supports all audio and video codecs. Plus LG's stock music app is the best period. It changes color depending on the album of the artist so no 2 artists ambient background look the same. These phones also have MLT-STD 810G/H, so they can take a drop or hit. Plus the cold has no effect on V-series phones. My Note 20 Ultra 5 kept bootlooping in -15°c weather. How ironic....lmao.
I pulled out the V40 and had no issues. GPS accuracy is immaculate. Just check out the V40's (or all V-series) GPS test on GSMarena
Well thing is the whole phone selection thing became a joke. LG V60 would be at least better since it was a flagship device. May not be all great in modern standards but at least less compromise than LG Wing.
Honestly the Wing could have been much better if LG didn't give up on phones soon after it launched. Just having the keyboard on the second screen would have been very useful.
Yeah Linus complained about the power button but didn't turn on the always on display option to double tap to wake, also they didn't use the LG Keyboard that automatically knows which screen to use for the keyboard, Linus was using the Microsoft SwiftKey keyboard, which is why it kept appearing on the top screen regardless of the Wing's mode.
@@wedge9t You'll learn a lot of LTT phone reviews (mostly on Short Circuit now) especially where Linus is the reviewer will be hardstuck in his preferred ways of Galaxy Note 9 and not how each company handles gestures/shortcuts/features. He complains phone can't do X when it does have the feature tied to a different method of calling that feature. IE. Pixel 8 photo camera swapping he complains you can't swipe up but on pixels you simply twist/shake.
I wish the wing caught on, i love the concept so much but definitely needed a lot more polish. I hope apple picks up where the wing left off cuz they would definitely make the dual screen main stream.
I love the wing design
9:04 You can also remove them from the apps menu through settings on most (all?) Android phones. That way you have a choice, either quickly remove one and carry on where you are, or go on a phone cleanup rampage. I actually like that you have both of these options on the wing.
How dare you say something like that, as if Linus doesn't know about that already?!
(Probably because he dropped the ball a while ago and he actually doesn't know how Android works anymore)
There's a lot Linus doesn't know. It depends on who's watching how much of it gets uncovered. And that's fine, this is entertainment value :D
@@Niphrentil
9:57 My A30s does the same, reason is that it's locked after rebooting. Nothing starts before you unlock and let the device finish startup.
Yeah that's dumb.
Ngl, I think the best use for this is chatting. Full size keyboard on the bottom, full landscape size chat on the top. The keyboard takes up 50% of the screen on my phone, I would benefit from more screen space.
The thermal paste intro to the ad had me DYING