I've done a few more modifications than you did, and I spent a little more--$5800 total. But I paid $5500 for my 2020, so the total comes to $11,300 which is less than I paid for my new Beta 390 RR-S, and the Beta is not as versatile. I did VMX tubeless spoked wheels, which are MUCH better than the KTM ones. I kept the cast wheels with Conti TKC70s on them for when I'm going to do a 90% pavement ride--it takes me about 1/2 an hour to swap. And I replaced the entire exhaust system with a 2018 390 Duke exhaust which has no cat, no resonator, and wraps around the engine instead of under it. Since I did that I needed to make my own skid plate since no one makes one which isn't for the under-the-engine exhaust. I have lots of clearance and my homebrew skid plate attaches like the black dog plate. I tried the black dog pegs, didn't like them and switched to some pivoting flat pegs. I made my own kickstand sensor disabling switch that allows me to bypass the KS sensor if it either screws up or starts bouncing around. I also added a second ABS sensor to the front wheel so I can disable the rear sensor without trouble codes. I switch it to the front with just a SPDT switch. I made my own turn signal/auxiliary brake and stop light mounted on my number plate holder, and modified the wiring on some Cyclops auxiliary lights so the amber running lights are now turn signals, I use Mosko Moto Reckless (rackless) 80 bags and the Mosko Nomax tank bag, which includes a camelbak. I also use crashbar bags, one side for my somewhat huge toolkit, the other for a Green Chile recovery system. It's a great little bike, more versatile than either my 701 Husky or my 390 Beta. Without the luggage on it my bike weighs 330#. I took a lot of stuff off.
Nice, what a great setup. To get it down to 330#s, that is quite change. I like what you have done with this bike. Thanks for sharing, it's great to see others enjoying it like I do.
Hi @ponobill sounds like a sweet set up! did you have to modify/weld/cut anything to install the duke exhaust system? Also do you run your can high or still below the swing arm? Thanks
just an fyi for anyone who want to do the resonator delete, I have the coober header cat delete and ecu, and they said don't remove due to loss of back pressure, if your running the coober
Thanks, Matt. Motorcycles are not inexpensive. I bought a new BMW R1250RS and a KTM 390 Adv last year, then added many mods and accessories to both, then riding gear for both, then camping gear. Yeah, I don't think I'm going to add up what I spent. But hey, I'm enjoying retirement.
It takes a brave man to add up what they've spent on their bike. I am a ways behind you with the 390 yet, but my Tenere 700 had everything (more than I needed even) I wish my bike had standard indicators rather than the european led ones. Nice one.
Thanks for the video, I have a 195kg Adventure bike and a Toyota Prado (AU GX), that I was thinking about doing the same. I'm interested to see how things are going with this set up now after 1 yr. Thanks again.
I haven't ridden this bike much in the last year. I was riding a Tenere 700 but absolutely hated it and then picked up an Aprilia Tuareg. The Tuareg has been my main bike this summer. I still get out on the 390 occasionally. I just purchased the Veridian Cruise Control for this bike. I think if I had cruise control sooner I might not have purchased these other bikes. I still think it is a great bike.
Got a -23 Spoked Wheel model and spent about $1500 on crash bars, rally seat and performance mods (coober ecu, k&n filter). Selling now but if I kept it I would have added another more straight handle bar, hand protection and heated grips.
Great review of the mods Matt. I generally do not count bags as a mod, as I have moved them between bikes. And it past time for a collapsing brake pedal! - Frank
It adds up quick! That's why it's usually cheaper to buy a used bike that someone else has already farkled. But, the 390 doesn't really have any peers, and the ones that are close would require most of the mods that you did anyway. I've done front suspension, windscreen, skidplate, pegs, tail rack, rackless luggage, fuelx, heated grips, quadlock mount, and I'm sure a couple other things. Thanks for the continued content.
Its amazing how much we spend on extras on a bike........... we never make it back when we sell but hell isnt that the usual when it comes to toys........ and you hit it on the head......... all the mods are a great way to just chill in the garage and have a great time....... I have built a few old Yami XSs and well just a great time in the garage........ told people before I enjoy building them more than riding them........ its just a great way to spend a rainy evening in the garage....... and not sure exactly but have at least 2500 into upgrades on my 23 390....... love the BD skid plate but the noise not so much....
I have a tip for the noise off the skid plate. I used rubber washers to mount it which dampen the noise and that seemed to fix it. Wrenching on a bike is a great way to unwind. Cheers.
@advmatt Even easier, I coated my skid plate on the engine side with gorilla glue and then sprayed it with water to catalyze it. the glue foams up to about 1/4" and provides both noise dampening and some impact protection if something I hit pushes the plate close to the engine. Banging on the plate with the gorilla glue foam in place produces a little thumping sound. No ringing.
i didn't get your new video notification, for which I have submitted. Since my friend started working at Google, some things have changed. Will have to give him a call :)
Great observation. I have found so much more cash in my pocket not being married, well except having a bike, it feels the same as being married. It's always demanding attention and requiring money.
Matt, did you like those Zana racks? I juts bought the Tusk and they are WIDE!!! I may go with Zana too. Any issues mounting the WM bags? I have their 30 liter older raft-material bags.
I overloaded the Zana racks when I had the Givi bags. The Wolfman are a much better setup and the racks would have lasted forever with the weight carried over the seat. Unfortunately I bent the pannier rack when it was overloaded. I am planning to replace the Zana rack with the Hepco Becker. It looks narrow, at least more than the Tusk. The price is high. With that being said the Zana rack have been really good for the money.
About half of my mods were to make my 390 _orangier._ That adds about 3 mph to the top speed ... sorta. I put LED turn signals on front and back. Initially they blinked fast, but after a couple of starts they slowed down to stock. I'm an excellent mechanic. 🙄 Really irritated by the exhaust? I mean, it ain't much, but irritated? cool vid, thx S
What do you think about FuelX? You have a lot of customization in your bike, but this popular add on don't. Do you have a specific reason not to do this? Thanks for your videos. I found a lot of inspiration there.
I am not a fan of fuel controllers. Most fuel controllers require the catalytic converters be removed and the resonator stays in to maintain back pressure. I don't want the resonator due to heat it produces right next to the shock. I also think there is greater risk of damaging the engine if the fuel mixture is off. The added increase in power and performance is not worth it to me. Hope this helps explain why I haven't done it.
Nice! I've done several of the same ones. Seems like a lot at first but if you factor in the suspension and spoke wheels, the balance over a 3 year timeframe really isn't that much. On a side note, didn't you install a throttle lock as well?
@@advmatt Yea, seems like the only real solution is retrofitting cruise control but it's a hard sale @ $700 orso. I've been using my old GoCruise for a little relief but typically try to take the long road and avoid hwy as much as possible.
I have never felt like I needed one. I don't get any wobble at Highway speeds. I use Ride On fluid to make sure my wheel and tire are balanced and that seems to work really well for me. Not sure if you are experiencing a tire balance issue.
I bet the Cost per Mile or Cost per Smile is off the charts! So you haven't felt the need to add stuff like Fuel-X controller or smaller countershaft sprocket?
Completely off the charts. I have not been compelled to add a fuel controller. I have seen some issues where the bike becomes a bit less reliable with a fuel controller. I have been perfectly happy with the gearing and have no plans to change the counter shaft sprocket. I do too much long distance travel to reduce the gearing and I have never had an issue with it at slow speeds. Keep the rpms up and use the clutch.
I have not kept up with the valve clearance checks. I did the first one at 8k miles but haven't done another yet. It's on my to do list this winter. Yeah, it should be every 9k miles.
Do you have any tips for the kickstand being too long after all loaded up? On some terrain, the bins wants to tip over to the right because the kickstand is too long… don’t know if people shorten them or what…
It sounds to me like you need to increase the preload on the shock so the bike doesn't sag so much. That is the only thing I can think of that would cause the bike to sit very upright on the kickstand. I know after I installed the fork spacers the kickstand seems a bit too short and it leans over toward the kickstand a long way. The only other reason I can think for the kickstand being too long is if a lowering kit was installed, effectively a short shock. In this case you need to purchase a short kickstand. I think I have seen short kickstands on AOMC.mx. I don't know if they come separate from the lowering kit but that will solve your problem. Hope this helps.
@@advmatt I adjusted my preload and that brought the bike up a lot, so thanks for the tip! What preload do you generally have yours set to with all the weight you carry? Is it maxed out?
Nope, no ball and chain for me. Explains why I spent so much. A wife would have cut those expenses in half, or at least what I would be willing to admit to.
I've done a few more modifications than you did, and I spent a little more--$5800 total. But I paid $5500 for my 2020, so the total comes to $11,300 which is less than I paid for my new Beta 390 RR-S, and the Beta is not as versatile. I did VMX tubeless spoked wheels, which are MUCH better than the KTM ones. I kept the cast wheels with Conti TKC70s on them for when I'm going to do a 90% pavement ride--it takes me about 1/2 an hour to swap. And I replaced the entire exhaust system with a 2018 390 Duke exhaust which has no cat, no resonator, and wraps around the engine instead of under it. Since I did that I needed to make my own skid plate since no one makes one which isn't for the under-the-engine exhaust. I have lots of clearance and my homebrew skid plate attaches like the black dog plate. I tried the black dog pegs, didn't like them and switched to some pivoting flat pegs. I made my own kickstand sensor disabling switch that allows me to bypass the KS sensor if it either screws up or starts bouncing around. I also added a second ABS sensor to the front wheel so I can disable the rear sensor without trouble codes. I switch it to the front with just a SPDT switch. I made my own turn signal/auxiliary brake and stop light mounted on my number plate holder, and modified the wiring on some Cyclops auxiliary lights so the amber running lights are now turn signals, I use Mosko Moto Reckless (rackless) 80 bags and the Mosko Nomax tank bag, which includes a camelbak. I also use crashbar bags, one side for my somewhat huge toolkit, the other for a Green Chile recovery system. It's a great little bike, more versatile than either my 701 Husky or my 390 Beta. Without the luggage on it my bike weighs 330#. I took a lot of stuff off.
Nice, what a great setup. To get it down to 330#s, that is quite change. I like what you have done with this bike. Thanks for sharing, it's great to see others enjoying it like I do.
Hi @ponobill sounds like a sweet set up! did you have to modify/weld/cut anything to install the duke exhaust system? Also do you run your can high or still below the swing arm? Thanks
@@paoloaldi1030no. It’s a bolt on mod. The exhaust header ends in the same place as the resonator so the muffler is in the stock position.
just an fyi for anyone who want to do the resonator delete, I have the coober header cat delete and ecu, and they said don't remove due to loss of back pressure, if your running the coober
Yeah, great tip. You either remove the stock headers or remove the resonator. You can't do both.
Thanks, Matt. Motorcycles are not inexpensive. I bought a new BMW R1250RS and a KTM 390 Adv last year, then added many mods and accessories to both, then riding gear for both, then camping gear. Yeah, I don't think I'm going to add up what I spent. But hey, I'm enjoying retirement.
Well done. What a setup, two bikes are always better than one. Retirement is when life really begins.
It takes a brave man to add up what they've spent on their bike. I am a ways behind you with the 390 yet, but my Tenere 700 had everything (more than I needed even)
I wish my bike had standard indicators rather than the european led ones.
Nice one.
Thanks for the video, I have a 195kg Adventure bike and a Toyota Prado (AU GX), that I was thinking about doing the same. I'm interested to see how things are going with this set up now after 1 yr.
Thanks again.
I haven't ridden this bike much in the last year. I was riding a Tenere 700 but absolutely hated it and then picked up an Aprilia Tuareg. The Tuareg has been my main bike this summer. I still get out on the 390 occasionally. I just purchased the Veridian Cruise Control for this bike. I think if I had cruise control sooner I might not have purchased these other bikes. I still think it is a great bike.
Got a -23 Spoked Wheel model and spent about $1500 on crash bars, rally seat and performance mods (coober ecu, k&n filter). Selling now but if I kept it I would have added another more straight handle bar, hand protection and heated grips.
These bikes are too easy modify. Before you know it your wallet is empty.
Great review of the mods Matt. I generally do not count bags as a mod, as I have moved them between bikes.
And it past time for a collapsing brake pedal! - Frank
I stupidly buy bags for each bike so that I can pack and run at a moment's notice.
It adds up quick! That's why it's usually cheaper to buy a used bike that someone else has already farkled. But, the 390 doesn't really have any peers, and the ones that are close would require most of the mods that you did anyway. I've done front suspension, windscreen, skidplate, pegs, tail rack, rackless luggage, fuelx, heated grips, quadlock mount, and I'm sure a couple other things. Thanks for the continued content.
You have done quite a bit to your bike as well. It's all worth it to me.
Its amazing how much we spend on extras on a bike........... we never make it back when we sell but hell isnt that the usual when it comes to toys........
and you hit it on the head......... all the mods are a great way to just chill in the garage and have a great time.......
I have built a few old Yami XSs and well just a great time in the garage........ told people before I enjoy building them more than riding them........ its just a great way to spend a rainy evening in the garage.......
and not sure exactly but have at least 2500 into upgrades on my 23 390....... love the BD skid plate but the noise not so much....
I have a tip for the noise off the skid plate. I used rubber washers to mount it which dampen the noise and that seemed to fix it. Wrenching on a bike is a great way to unwind. Cheers.
@@advmatt I did the rubber washers also but still noisy...... oh well its not a road bike.
@advmatt Even easier, I coated my skid plate on the engine side with gorilla glue and then sprayed it with water to catalyze it. the glue foams up to about 1/4" and provides both noise dampening and some impact protection if something I hit pushes the plate close to the engine. Banging on the plate with the gorilla glue foam in place produces a little thumping sound. No ringing.
@@PonoBill that's a great idea!
i didn't get your new video notification, for which I have submitted. Since my friend started working at Google, some things have changed. Will have to give him a call :)
I don't think anyone is getting notifications for my videos. You still found it!
From this video we can infer that Matt is single. No married man would dare to publicly disclose the amount he spent on his bike!
Great observation. I have found so much more cash in my pocket not being married, well except having a bike, it feels the same as being married. It's always demanding attention and requiring money.
I would tell you what I paid for the Hyperpro shock, but I already feel badly that I ordered afyer you, and received it months sooner... 😁 - Frank
Getting close to 10K! - Frank
Getting real close. The last 100 subs took two months so this 1k may take a year.....
@@advmattYe of little faith. I predict Q1 of 2024. Loser pays for the next 390 Chain! - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding you're on. My channel has not been doing well the past six months, so I will definitely put that chain to use. Cheers.
Thanks Matt! Great video! Where you living now?
I am in California temporarily. Four more weeks until I move to New Mexico permanently.
Matt, did you like those Zana racks? I juts bought the Tusk and they are WIDE!!! I may go with Zana too. Any issues mounting the WM bags? I have their 30 liter older raft-material bags.
I overloaded the Zana racks when I had the Givi bags. The Wolfman are a much better setup and the racks would have lasted forever with the weight carried over the seat. Unfortunately I bent the pannier rack when it was overloaded. I am planning to replace the Zana rack with the Hepco Becker. It looks narrow, at least more than the Tusk. The price is high. With that being said the Zana rack have been really good for the money.
$5800 !!! Whoa!
About half of my mods were to make my 390 _orangier._
That adds about 3 mph to the top speed ... sorta.
I put LED turn signals on front and back. Initially they blinked fast, but after a couple of starts they slowed down to stock.
I'm an excellent mechanic.
🙄
Really irritated by the exhaust?
I mean, it ain't much, but irritated?
cool vid, thx
S
I never thought to add more color, dang, to think I could be getting a bit more out of my bike. Well done.
What do you think about FuelX? You have a lot of customization in your bike, but this popular add on don't. Do you have a specific reason not to do this? Thanks for your videos. I found a lot of inspiration there.
I am not a fan of fuel controllers. Most fuel controllers require the catalytic converters be removed and the resonator stays in to maintain back pressure. I don't want the resonator due to heat it produces right next to the shock. I also think there is greater risk of damaging the engine if the fuel mixture is off. The added increase in power and performance is not worth it to me. Hope this helps explain why I haven't done it.
Nice! I've done several of the same ones. Seems like a lot at first but if you factor in the suspension and spoke wheels, the balance over a 3 year timeframe really isn't that much. On a side note, didn't you install a throttle lock as well?
I did add a throttle lock, forgot to mention that. It hasn't been working very well so it's like it's not really there.
@@advmatt Yea, seems like the only real solution is retrofitting cruise control but it's a hard sale @ $700 orso. I've been using my old GoCruise for a little relief but typically try to take the long road and avoid hwy as much as possible.
Matt have you ever considered a steering damper? I have 2022, I find that it will wobble at highway speeds.
I have never felt like I needed one. I don't get any wobble at Highway speeds. I use Ride On fluid to make sure my wheel and tire are balanced and that seems to work really well for me. Not sure if you are experiencing a tire balance issue.
I bet the Cost per Mile or Cost per Smile is off the charts! So you haven't felt the need to add stuff like Fuel-X controller or smaller countershaft sprocket?
Completely off the charts. I have not been compelled to add a fuel controller. I have seen some issues where the bike becomes a bit less reliable with a fuel controller. I have been perfectly happy with the gearing and have no plans to change the counter shaft sprocket. I do too much long distance travel to reduce the gearing and I have never had an issue with it at slow speeds. Keep the rpms up and use the clutch.
Have you kept up with the valve clearance checks on this bike? If memory serves me right, they're about every 9k miles right?
I have not kept up with the valve clearance checks. I did the first one at 8k miles but haven't done another yet. It's on my to do list this winter. Yeah, it should be every 9k miles.
Hi matt. Does your side windshield produce a rattling noise?
Not that I have noticed but I am aware that the tabs on the side panels can break making them loose.
Matt, where did you get the LED tail lights? Is that just a bulb change, or is it a new set of lights?
Its a bulb change. I did this a few years ago, I just didn't talk about it until this video. More to come on this topic.
Do you have any tips for the kickstand being too long after all loaded up? On some terrain, the bins wants to tip over to the right because the kickstand is too long… don’t know if people shorten them or what…
It sounds to me like you need to increase the preload on the shock so the bike doesn't sag so much. That is the only thing I can think of that would cause the bike to sit very upright on the kickstand. I know after I installed the fork spacers the kickstand seems a bit too short and it leans over toward the kickstand a long way. The only other reason I can think for the kickstand being too long is if a lowering kit was installed, effectively a short shock. In this case you need to purchase a short kickstand. I think I have seen short kickstands on AOMC.mx. I don't know if they come separate from the lowering kit but that will solve your problem. Hope this helps.
@@advmatt I adjusted my preload and that brought the bike up a lot, so thanks for the tip! What preload do you generally have yours set to with all the weight you carry? Is it maxed out?
@@OutWithTheWildThings yep, on the stock shock I had the preload maxed.
Not to mention the tires. I bet you put on at least a $1000 worth
Good point. I bet I have spent close to $2k on tires.
You must not be married. Married men never admit how much they spent on the bike.
Nope, no ball and chain for me. Explains why I spent so much. A wife would have cut those expenses in half, or at least what I would be willing to admit to.
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