SPENDING 500,000+ DOLLARS ON A VIDEO GAME ??? || NovemberHotel React
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The most ironic thing about whales is that they pay tons of cash to NOT have to play the game. 😂
That's actually half the resaon and the other half is vanity
Or they just want to smash everyone in the arena. If not, they are just basically simps to pixels but to each of their own. If I could afford it, I might be one of them who knows.
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Exept the "not playing the game" is the "boring" grind part. Which is an issue with the game that makes those boring momements and make it attractive to skip it.
@@pegaz7381Just buy a game that doesn't have those boring parts. Play Elden Ring.
The discussion of Genshin being pay-to-win or not at the start was starting to irritate me. You can't describe Genshin as pay-to-win, but you can describe as predatory, scummy, design to addict, or pay-to-unlock-content-you-should-have-had-access-to-if-it-wasn't-designed-to-trap-the-player-in-a-cycle-of-gambling!
It was just misleading, what leader board??? I stopped around September and I don't remember leader board with rewards
@@Blarpozoom Exactly. It's still scummy and heavily monetized to the detriment of the player, but it isn't pay-to-win!
@@TwilightWolf032Necro posting but Genshin has no content that is locked behind microtransactions. What are you talking about?
@@voicey5831 It's a gacha game, you pay to unlock a CHANCE to unlock the characters, gears and crafting items to make them stronger.
And if you're a completely free to play player, you're just not getting the things you want due to how much stuff there is to obtain and only so many chances you get.
So, pay to win.
Part of me thinks these idiots deserve to be scammed, but it ruins games for everyone.
These cash whales are the reason why we keep getting live service trash, I don't remember which company who made fun of one (who very well deserved it), but the company apologized to the maidenless fool(s)
It's why most people (like myself go play games that's single-player, or it has a multi-player feature with little to no microtransactions
Gacha games have existed since the 90s. It ain't the whales. The difference is that there are more F2P players these days willing to put up with shitty experiences because of brand loyalty or some other reason.
That comment about wow though...
I remember woman whored herself out for an epic mount, so.. yeah.
Got mounted for the mount... Probably learned her lesson.
Back of the napkin math says that a person who's been subscribed to WoW since launch and bought every expansion has probably paid over $3,500. This is nearly 2 decades of spending.
For some reason, I don't think these guys are running these financial decisions by their wives.
Very bold to assume these people have partners
It's hysterical you think these losers have ever had the scent of a woman in the same room with them let alone on their junk. lmfao If they did, all that money they spent on jpegs would be going to the call girls instead.
I've spent about $5k total across 12 years of gacha. I don't entirely regret it but it was still dumb decisions all day. I did play with a guy who spent $100k plus on a game though which is wild.
The "technically you can get it F2P" is such a L take. Takeing BDO as a example, getting maxed out gear is technically possible, but the time investment makes it unrealistic.
WIth games like genshin you can save up free pulls, but since they bring out new stuff all the time, and will not stop until the game shuts down, at which point you can no longet get new things, getting every charakter is improbeble, getting them all with their full kit, i.e. 6* is impossible.
More sunken costs than the U-boat program...
45:47 This happened to me when I was a kid. My mom put her credit card on to get playstation plus but I didn’t really understand how that stuff worked, so when I saw the add funds button I thought it was free money or some sort of glitch. I ended up buying MW2 since it was always rented out at Blockbuster and one of the John Cena marine movies. My mom ended up confronting me on it and explaining how credit cards and monetary systems like that worked. Luckily I ended up learning an important life lesson for only like $70 unlike today where $100 could be spent in a matter of seconds for a card pack or gacha roll.
Can't take the microtransactions with you when the game dies either.🤣
The most I've spent on a F2P game was the Gift thing in Genshin, which is $5 for 30 days of extra summon resources.
I considered it a monthly sub since I was having a lot of fun with the game at the time.
I know someone who's spent $20k so far on DragonBall Legends though, and that's easily the most predatory game I've ever seen.
People really think Genshin or Fate/GO are bad, naw sooooooon, that bitch changes the meta every new character and creates new events only those characters can win.
So you're gambling for a character, gambling to level them up, gambling to maybe beat the event, and then repeating that every new event.
For Co-Op events it's extra bad cos most people won't be lucky enough to have that character, so you'll be playing with someone who by no fault of their own can't really win.
It's so bad. Also my comments are always super long, I ramble a lot.
Yeah dragon ball legends (DBL) is hard on newer players that don’t pay money. There’s only really 2 rarities that matter: Ultra and Sparking. Ultras are the premium unit that makes it easier to win.
7:23 when its upwards a 100 year grind on a game that wont last 10, or requires actual lottery levels of luck, its hard to say you CAN do it if you try... I can win the lottery by the same logic, I may find a jackpot lottery ticket someone let og of on a windy day, but shit realistically will not happen.
43:37 the problem is I like the grind to some degree, there is a point where it goes from fun grind and unlock to fuck you for making me spend 80 hours to play as luke skywalker, I will not play a shooter without an unlock system because its just not very fun to play games like arena shooters anymore, not long haul at least. if I have an unlock system I can at least play FOR something.
The problem is when a company decides to try and pad that out to several months for what may have been a few weekends 10 years ago because player retention is a metric they track, then the asshole at top said 'let them buy the unlocks'
battlefield 3 and bad compnay were as good as it gets for unlocks, 4+ made it hell to the point I just stopped playing, 5$ into the game so I wasn't out much but the monetization was horrific.
Didn't Tectone spend 500k on Genshin? He whaled so hard he bought out the fun out of the game and quit
whats really hypocritical is that these are the same gamers that want microtransactions banned for gaming.
@@jacksoncabrera7236 Yet they fucking gulp the 30$ mounts in wow, and after that Tectone talks shit about Genshin "costing" so much money which is fucking bullshit because i've never spent a single cent on that game, given i play it since launch every patch but still they amount of free pulls there are out in the world to get is fucking huge but the dicktone spent 500k so how would he know how much free pulls are there, the whales are the ones that cry about not enough free stuf the most because they don't need to play the game to earn shit
If it's true that's pathetic..
@@Standoffmuffin It is, also when he was lifing with is ex wife he put the streaming setup in a fucking living room can you believe it ? you could actually see she had enough no wonder she left him i can't stand this dude
the youtube comment argument bit is just relatable and sad.
you will never win over the other person and you'll just waste your time and energy failing to do so.
If the game keeps you playing month after month and doesn't let you buy an advantage over others, then it's worth a drop of cash like any other game. If for no other reason than supporting it so it stays alive longer.
This just makes me happy and relieved I'm making myself a retro-attic, I'll stick with single-player games and keep to myself, people are too crazy out there.
40:21 depending on the typ of tank they may cost anywhere from mid 6figures to mid 8figures. The age and varient also play a role. Older ifvs are on the lower end and modern mbts are on the higher end.
There are places where you can drive a tank wich costs around 2k per hour i think.
If you want to own a tank that is also possible and costs somewhere around the 6figure mark. They are usually old tanks that the military doesn't need anymore (end of ww2 era) and that got demilitarized (wich is what costs a lot of money)
I am someone who also has spent $10k on world of tanks, I know the thought process and it sucks. Usually you hold on to 2 things for that specific game.
1. It's a rare tank that no way will be sold again I have to buy it now.
2. You want to show off the "rare mega collection" that you got in hopes people pay attention to you.
I have also spent an uncomfortable amount on mobile gaming and it always has a similar want, you want to be looked up at as a god or greater player. To be someone of value to others because you can't find the value in yourself.
I'm in no way defending P2W gaming, just giving my insight as a recovering addict of this behavior, it eats you away and by the time I realized what happened I maxed out my cards and left pennies in my account. After doing that 2 years ago I am still paying off what I owe now.
The reason the Diablo Immortal whale was going to charge back his card. Was because he spent so much money the match making system broke and he couldn’t fight anyone. He was literally too strong for anyone else to even be remotely close to his power level. Also Genshin isn’t really pay to win even with the bare bones team and character ms you earn from events you can still complete the content. Plus their is an option to make the content easier by temporarily reducing the world level. Till you feel like putting it back to normal.
If I had 150k, I would spend it. On a beefy af computer. Not on microtransactions
I understand what people mean when they say that a pve game can be pay to win, but at the same time. unless the game has some form of hardcore mechanic you're either winning or you're loading to try winning again
The guy in the first clip is JTisAllBuisness
He was a friend of mine 10 years ago in a game called Castle Clash , and he spent 100s of dollars every day, to spin loot boxes for rare heros...
That game had disgustingly OP Heros vs complete bedwetters
20 dollars, that's over double then what I got last time I worked.
Heh, them whales sound like Charlie Sheen when he ranted about being on cocaine and having tiger blood and winning.
paid battlepasses are a cancer. DRG's battlepass does everything they do, but you don't have to pay for it.
I spent 800€ on various stupid shit on an MMO. The shame at the end of the month, having to go to my grandma and ask to borrow 400€ to pay for rent because I blew it all away made me feel so much shame I never bought anything past the main games and DLCs. 5 years and I still haven't bought an in-game item again.
Those ears look so soft and fluffy ❤
I play video games and phone games. I never paid for games on my phone and spent about $300 a year for pc and pc games, not including electricity. And I think that's a bit of money to spend on games.
And i know my Steam library can disappear one day.
If hololive made holocure they could have made billions monetizing it
There is TWO situations that I feel whaling is justified.
One is for streamers, where they are using whaling as stream content. In that case it is a budgeted investment to entertain the viewers.
The second, is because things are fucked up. I remember hearing online about someone that, thanks to being paraplegic, gets some monthly money from the government. BUT they can't save it. If they end up saving their money past a value their payments are frozen, even if someone pay them just a little bit more. So at the end of the month they have to hurry to use some of it so the new payment does not push them past their limit. As I said, fucked up, but whaling would be a way to use thay money safely - not the best, but it is LITERALLY money they HAVE to use quickly or they lose much more later...
personally i think that people can use their money in anyway they see fit, as long as they got enjoyment out of it, it's fine, life is short after all
I really wish profiles weren't anonymous sometimes because I feel like you could make a strong bet that atleast 75% of these people who say "If you're broke just say so"...are actually under 18s who have everything brought for them lol
I play league for 11 years and didnt put a dime into that game ,still confuses me how people can put so much money into pixels.
The mentality of both whales and gacha haters confuses me. First of all people like to keep saying that you're spending money on pngs which personally I think it's a stupid thing to say, unless you're playing a game of still images then you're not paying for pngs now are you? In the case of Genshin you're not paying for pngs, you're paying for a 3D model of a character with their own sets of animations and gameplay.
As for those who keep arguing about them not needing to pay for a character because they can jerk to them online... are you for real? You can do whatever you want on the internet during your alone times but just know that looking at a character online while you have your fun time isn't the same as playing those characters in a video game. Usually I don't care all that much if someone isn't into certain kind of things, what does annoy me though is when I hear people either having brain dead opinions or just straight up spreading misinformation to others who might just take it at face value and roll with it which would only serve to spread even more misinformation.
Oh god BDO. Me and a friend played that together up until you HAD to get that stupid NPC trader or whatever and you had to be online to protect it from npcs and guilds and we read you had to be in a guild if you wanted to progress at all. That's when we both said F it and quit.
Have spent like 500 euros on League of Legends... over the course of 15 years.
So I think that that is fine.
I think there is a big difference between P2W, which typically involves PVP, and Pay to Progress (P2P,), which normally is about games that focus on PVE. Although P2W and P2P can both be in PVP games. Genshin is definitely P2P since the "end game" is achievable by grinding and getting the characters from the free "pull" currency given. As a side note, Warframe is P2P, but the "end game" is really just Fashion Frame (make the characters look good), and you can earn in-game currency to get cosmetics for Fashion Frame.
They're ding dongs, but they're your ding dongs :D
No one want's to be around them or have them around, so they buy attention, it's compensating for lacking any social skills past throwing money out and hoping someone picks it up and brings them an icecream.
I say any instance of a real money option buying any type of stat altering gear is ptw, even if you can grind it.
38:56 the problem with addiction is that it is hard to accept it. Yes the first step to getting better is accepting it but if you never had to go through that shit you might not be able to understand. Every addict who is able to tell you (specially publicly) that they are an addict earns my biggest respect. I have spent 6 weeks in a psychiatry (not addiction related) next to the station with the addicts and had a lot of contact with them. It is hard for them. I'm not giving you shit for not considering/knowing that since i don't think that you ever went through something like that. But what i try to accomplish with this is that you at least try to put your mind in their place and think about why it could be that they behave the way they do. Who knows, maybe you'll understand where i'm coming from
Could someone please let me know what the outro song is at 46:28?
the irony is these games would have month long f2p grinds if cash shopes didn't exist the insanely long grinds is a symptom of cash shop users making companies turn their "games" into time wasters to incentivise purchases
Starwars battlefront 2: You CAN unlock all the charaters in-game, it'll just take time (about 4528 hours OR you can spend $2100usd)
Paid gacha and lootboxes are just gambling, period. Worse, you don't even get a shot at a monetary return if you win, unlike "real" gambling (unless you're planning on selling your account for more than you invested.) You're spending money on a slot machine that only pays out in cosmetics, equipment, or characters in a video game that will someday be taken down. Whether or not its also a pay to win system is entirely based on the game in question.
That said, if you're financially responsible and this is what entertains you, go for it. It's your money. As long as you're not harming yourself with your spending and you're getting enjoyment out of the game, its fine. Just don't allow yourself to become an addict that ruins their life over gambling.
Would I spend the equivalent of a house, or a college loan, on a video game? No, I'm not that rich, and it's some kind of fucked up that any individual game would require that kind of money. Just let me buy a reasonably priced complete game, because I can't support this sort of design. But again, it's not my money, and I don't make the laws.
24:24 okay what lando tucker... don't buy games you know you won't play.
What don't you have money? Blizzard
Saying that people who spend a lot of money on games generally have a lower iq is dangerous. There are certain mental illnesses that can cause that and those people often do know that it is stupid to do. I used to do it fully knowing that it is stupid and doesn't help long term but if you feel bad enough this temporary high through spending money can safe your life. Now that my mental health is back at a somewhat stable point i do somewhat regret spending that much but on the otherhand i know that this is probably one of the bigger reasons why i still am alive
I'm an addict, smoked weed for 10 years but i still moderate. I smoke for 250$ a month and have been doing that forever. The fact that some people can use thousinds of dollars a month and deny they are addicts. These people are the perfect example of you don't have to be smart to get rich
pay 2 win doesn't require pvp. Games generally have win/loss conditions, and anything paid for that helps you win would be pay 2 win. Progression is tied to winning in these circumstances.
Even the large majority of games that have an endgame loop have a story to beat. After that, pay2win transitions to player goal. Trying to become the most powerful you possibly can? If paying for something progresses you towards that goal, it's pay 2 win.
If a 3rd party is required for that progression, it doesn't make the game itself pay 2 win. Just like someone mentioned, you could pay a hacker to hack your game with the best gear, and that doesn't make the game pay 2 win. You are engaging at that point with a pay 2 win strategy, but in general we don't complain about such stuff unless it's pvp related, where your simply a cheater at that point. We really only use the term pay 2 win to refer to games that, within it's own systems, provide a way to pay to get an edge towards winning.
27:00 Navy SEAL pasta vibes.
Genshin isn't pay to win you can get any character you want if you have enough common sense to save in game currency for them and the "you can't unlock the entire kit part" isn't completely true you can but you'd need to save alot but you don't even need those parts of the kit because its not that important most of the time you just get big numbers thats already way beyond most of the mob's Hp and even if you whale your characters won't be doing big numbers without great artifacts which you can't buy
So one way or another the game will make you farm.
There's P2W in single-player games now...
True ultimate gaming 🕶
Games that focus on whales are games that make their money by exploiting gambling addictions and people with more money than sense.
Unfortunately the only Star Trek MMO, Star Trek Online, has ironically become the kind of game that only cares about squeezing as much money as possible from the players and cares more about whales. Almost everything from the actual show added to the game goes in gamble boxes in recent years, with the stuff bought normally often goes in bundles that cost upwards of $100..
I play codm at least a few games weekly. It’s wild to spend 14k on it. Yes spending any per week on a game is dumb af.
As far as codm goes…
While there are skins you’d need to grind for, the season skin.
There’s plenty that come in free crates, etc just from logging in and playing sometimes. Or completing a challenge.
I’ve got multiple character skins, gun skins, etc and haven’t spent a dollar on the game. You don’t have to grind for some stuff that isn’t the stock stuff. You can also buy crates with the in game currency that isn’t the real money currency.
Man, I didn’t know that I was broke and that’s why I can’t pay for stuff for Genshin.
Whoa! Such news!
When i played it perfect world was p2w with the best weapons and armor only being available from the in game cash shop.
I play codm at least a few games weekly. It’s wild to spend 14k on it. Yes spending any per week on a game is dumb af.
As far as codm goes…
While there are skins you’d need to grind for, the season skin.
There’s plenty that come in free crates, etc just from logging in and playing sometimes. Or completing a challenge.
I’ve got multiple skins and haven’t spent a dollar on the game.
I've spent about around almost 2-3,000 dollars just on fornite just on skins alone and roughly 500-1000 on Team fortress 2 loot boxes. I abosltely hated myself for doing that back then. Even though they are just skins and cosmetics however TF2 was technically pay 2 win with weapon strangers, Microtransactions are still heavily predatory. I''m never buying a single Microtransaction again.
This is why I like most of my dota skins, worst case I sell em back and buy a game.
Playing the game normally and earning everything in game died a long time ago unfortunately. Without gacha it would just go back to DLC/microtransaction hell or whatever way they can come up with to milk players next.
Flexing how much you spend on a game is easily one of the most cringe things possible
I suppose the down side of paying for skins and the like on an online game, is that it is potentially all for nothing cause once those servers go down in maybe 10 years that’s it unless the next game allows transfer of account
14K could've bought a house...
I started an indie vtuber version of holocure. Gatcha and all, but there is no micro transactions. Maybe I should reconsider that part.
Lmao😂 she knows about bdo😂
I can admit to having paid more than I'd like on a gatcha game I know will be shut down, though definitely not these hundreds of thousands like this. I would NEVER act like it was a good thing. These people are nuts...
I’ve spent a shit ton of money on some of the games that I play but I don’t fucking brag that I’m financially irresponsible I’m ashamed of myself
When it comes to Genshin: it can't be pay to win if it's not hard to win.
I say as someone who spent around $500 on it. Lots of characters, not enough time or patience to invest in all of them.
As long as you play long enough to gather a decent team you can breeze throu everything and it doesn't even take that long with how many free primogems there are out in the world now that 5 regions are in game
Difficulty to winning is subjective, thus i disagree with your first statement. My mom has never touched a pc or a game controller outside of the wii (bowling). If she were to ever play genshin, it would take her a lot of time to just get comfortable moving and attacking. Regardless of that, pay 2 win isn't so much about literal winning. It could be the psychological effect that makes it egregious. If a person doesn't have the skill to hit the enemy at all, extra power doesn't matter, but they may interpret a few dollars to do more damage as helpful.
Anything that provides an edge towards winning gained through payment is pay 2 win. As for the "not enough time or patience to invest in all of them".. that's a development decision. An extreme opposite example would be 25xp to be the minimum gained for a battle, and every levelup is 1xp, max level 50. These conditions would make it so you only ever need 2 battles to max out your level. Drop rates and everything can be adjusted to make it so that you can have enough time. As for difficulty, their can be modes that lower or increase damage taken and dealt, or even remove combat entirely. No game is worth $500 of investment, free to play or not. That isn't to disparage you for your choices to put that kind of money into the game. I'm guilty of the same, $300 into Smite across my thousands of hours playing it. I've stepped away from free to play entirely for this reason.. they have to make money and generally don't take a proper approach to limit the money made from an individual. Smite had a god pack for $20, that unlocked all current and future gods. They could make that $40 and make all cosmetics and such free to unlock in-game alongside the gods themselves. It would provide tons of value and still pay for the development. That said.. it still wouldn't make as much money as what they are doing now.
Gacha is not P2W, it's a SCAM.
If I were play genshin, rather than stress out not getting the waifu rolling the frustrating system called gacha.
I just buy some account with THE waifu on it for 25-35$. You can spend 100$ and you got NOTHING you want.
What a shitty system.
@@aj991It's literally gambling. Gacha is garbage.
@@aj991exactly it’s p2w pay to get the best thing in the game and the best waifu I don’t understand how people don’t get it 😂
pocket watcher. I'm guessing its someone who doesn't buy the time saver microtransactions? that's a really weird flex
I whaled a but during covid in BDO and i still think about that 4 grand and i dont play BDO hardly ever anymore.
Oh I don't think WoW will die. Just like Everquest won't die. They just go into a sustain mode, and merge the servers overtime as the tech gets better and the pop drops. While having a stripped down dev team doing smaller updates to keep the whales happy. Yeah EQ has pay to win and pay to access in it now.
guys if you dont take out a mortgage on your house so you can give alana donations you're broke btw. is that the logic they're using?
Warframe has good pay to win mechanics, there's no leaderboards (that I've seen at least), nobody cares about pvp, and every purchase by a whale can mean free platinum for someone that plays for free, mostly or even 100%.
There's also om not a lot you can buy that will make you instantly broken, the mods is where you get strong, there's strong weapons and frames, sure, but everyone has th level up there gear, farm mods, and do everything else.
Warframe is a lot of "pay to skip this", in a way that isn't robbing free players of their experience
I remember playing some mobile game years ago and the 3 rank on the server payed $14000 a month. How tf do you spend that much and your not even first? Pretty sure I remember his dad was some Chinese hundred millionaire/billionaire.
oh a gamer spending that on a video game not the developer nor the publisher to make said video game
That comment "when I come home from work, I just want to play the game and I don't have time to grind for 2 weeks"... Way to miss a point of your own comment, you wouldn't have to grind for so long if there was no option buy it instead.
pay to get ahead is literally pay to win how do you not get that?
Pay to win doesn't mean that paying is the only way to progress or you can never win without paying. It means you pay to give yourself unfair advantages or ahead of the curve. Trying to split the terminology into more descriptions is just obfuscating the fact that it's garbage manipulative game design and shouldn't be acceptable.
43:57 without mtx theres a pretty big segment of the market that would probably not like gaming anymore. If the only way to progress is to play the game people who have real life commitments like kids/families/demanding jobs cannot be on the cutting edge of anything in the game. Nerds like me who can game in their free time and while working would be able to out compete them casually playing all day, even if they min maxed their short play session and had a long weekend play session they would never be able to compete with me or people like me. Ive literally manafactured my life to make decent money, have freedom to game all while making sure nobody paying me has a problem with it. Quite a few people wont play if theirs no chance of ever catching up. And if i spend 50-100$ a month on the game and can play 12-16 hrs a day casually while doing other things avg player cannot compete.
Time is money. Some people are time rich some people money rich. And some people are degens like me😂😂
21:05 Gaiming PC with Ryzen 7950X3D, RTX 4090, 64GB RAM. 3440 x 1440, 240 MHz, OLED Ultrawide Screen. And literally every single CoD game on Steam.
Or faking skins on CoD mobile.
All these gaming whales just show they have no self control with spending
Whilst I say people are free to spend their own money as they wish, and as long as they're keeping to their responsibilities and commitments, what's sad is these people thinking spending X amount on predatory and egregious monetisation practises to be some sort of flex, when in actuality they've just thrown their money into the proverbial fire.
To those who also use the tired excuse of "I pay so I can skip the grind because I work so and so amount of hours with only this much time to play games." Who made the game grindy on purpose in the first place? Who are the ones making the game bloated so financially-retarded gamers will feel forced to spend money to buy boosters or whatever pay2skiptime thing they're selling? I'm so done with the modern state of gaming, or at least AAA gaming, so many subscriptions, MTXs, battle/season passes here, there, and everywhere.
10k on Genshin? Fucking casual.
And it's not pay to win. There's so many channels dedicated to 30starring Abyss without spending a dime.
Yes it is impossible to have EVERY character at MAX rank in a gacha game without whaling. It's also impossible to own every video game without spending money. You can't expect to have literally everything in a system where money is expected to be exchanged without spending money.
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What does she mean there's no PvE in BDO? I exclusively play PvE only and have over 160p hrs in it.
I write essays cuz im bored as fuck at work and ccs were nice enough to waste their time making videos i could watch so i can waste some time talking shit or critiquing some dumb ass idea i heard. Ive made like 300$ over the last couple days while watching ur videos since i found u. Its not exactly a waste of my time to type lol even if nobody responds. I could have been actually working for the last bit
4:20 Pay to "Win" doesn't ahve to mean against other players imo
So, my situation is such that I can only really do free to play or buy to play games, my income is too unstable for subscription fees. And small enough its hard to justify.
which does by extension mean i cannot and do not whale. And nor do i tend to play games that encourage whaling overtly. To the point of making the free play unpleasant.
However i do agree that this kind of spending should have limits on it, and the pricing of theses things are almost always egregious if a digital outfit costs more than a real one, something is stupid.
Also. As shown, I do like to type longer TH-cam comments, i believe if i have something worth saying, i might as well be eloquent about it.
Warframe doesn't have a shop, just trade
China is known for banning vgames lol
Genshin isn't pay to win. I don't spend any money and I win everything lol
Warframe kinda 50/50 I have a buddy that buys every prime access without hesitation I am a free to play player………
What? You don't get ranked against other players in Genshin. There is no leaderboards or anything like that. It's not P2W cause there's literally nothing to win, its just pay.
Man imagine working 10 hours a day and on weekends you want to hop in wow or other mmo or other games and if it didn't have cash payments you are like 2-3 days behind and feel left behind yes i see playing another game or maybe if you have good friends they help you to catch up if it's a multiplayer game, me personally am a free to play gamer and if i can't enjoy the game without paying then imma find some other game, but i understand the want to catch up with people who has more free time, but if the shop items are basically best in server that's just scummy i would approve of a system that lets you catch up with avarage or above average players, but not the top players it diminishes their grind, i mean Alana's point is so wrong if it's free to play and you can catch up with everyone is not possible cause other people have more free time and can grind 12-18 hours a day and if there was no mob grind then probably they would finish more quests and be ahead, and these people so idiotically defending companies for their predatory practices.
Any blizzard mobile game is automatically going to be top 10 in its category, the devs they are competing against are ultra shit and have no money.
Genshin is pay to win in my book. You spend money to get the best characters, then steam roll the game.
It's just a more acceptable form of pay to win since there is no other player as a victim.
Warframe no you can trade and get anything for free if you grind
ok codm is a good game and just wish they make a pc version for we can have all the goofy shit in that cod online game and the serious stuff in the new titles like codm is litrally seen as a good game in mobile