I don’t use dwell time when using my mandrel but I do run the case in the mandrel drop the case back down, turn the case 180 in shell holder and run the case back in to the mandrel. When I seat the bullets using Wilson seating die on my arbor press I find that I have very consistent seating pressure and when the seating pressure is higher those rounds are pulled for sighters. I can’t afford the Amp Press so no way to test than believing that target. Very nice series of videos.
What's wrong with the bullet acting as the mandrel? I still don't see why I need a mandrel. I size my brass to a .003 neck tension with a bushing die and then seat the bullet. Can you tell me what is wrong with my process if all I want is .003 neck tension?
If you turn your necks, maybe nothing. If you don’t, then you have to deal with uneven thickness of brass in the neck. Sizing from the outside like a bushing does can cause uneven neck tension. Sizing from the inside like a mandrel does means the tension is even around.
The mandrel is for mainly people who want the most precision out of their handloads, but sometimes even when seating the bullet one side of the brass can be thicker and could cause less brass life. or even me, I want to get one so I can make 6.5-.257 Roberts out of 6mm remington but I have to go from .244 to .262 (6mm to 6.7mm) so that's a lot of stress on the brass if I use certain dies
How are you lubing the case necks or mandrels when doing this? I've always used carbide size buttons so I've never had to lube necks. What does that process look like? I thought it would be included in this video
The powder throw video will be fairly soon. To be honest, I am struggling with the ST a little. It is capable of so much, but also a bit finicky. The learning mode is what will save it from being too finisky, but I have not worked enough with it yet.
I think there could be something to it. Loading for PRS matches is a compromise. I think if Bench Rest shooting or F-Class it may be more important to leave it there for a couple seconds. But have not seen much difference in my shooting. It would be an interesting test. I will add it to my list of things to do a test on! Thanks for watching.
@@precisionmatchtimer I completely agree. I have done it, and skipped it, and haven’t noticed a difference. For my prs needs I am skipping it until further convincing data has been gather. Great videos. Thanks
You dont allow your mandrel die to “float”, as explained in the setup by 21 century? It looks like you have the die screwed down tight against the turret….
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Awesome reloading set up. I use 263 expander mandrel for 6.5 creedmore with some Redding neck lube... Chasing that consistent neck tension.
I don’t use dwell time when using my mandrel but I do run the case in the mandrel drop the case back down, turn the case 180 in shell holder and run the case back in to the mandrel. When I seat the bullets using Wilson seating die on my arbor press I find that I have very consistent seating pressure and when the seating pressure is higher those rounds are pulled for sighters. I can’t afford the Amp Press so no way to test than believing that target. Very nice series of videos.
What's wrong with the bullet acting as the mandrel? I still don't see why I need a mandrel. I size my brass to a .003 neck tension with a bushing die and then seat the bullet. Can you tell me what is wrong with my process if all I want is .003 neck tension?
If you turn your necks, maybe nothing. If you don’t, then you have to deal with uneven thickness of brass in the neck. Sizing from the outside like a bushing does can cause uneven neck tension. Sizing from the inside like a mandrel does means the tension is even around.
The mandrel is for mainly people who want the most precision out of their handloads, but sometimes even when seating the bullet one side of the brass can be thicker and could cause less brass life. or even me, I want to get one so I can make 6.5-.257 Roberts out of 6mm remington but I have to go from .244 to .262 (6mm to 6.7mm) so that's a lot of stress on the brass if I use certain dies
That was a very cursory overview. Do you lube? If so, with what? Also if so, is it cleaned off or left to assist with bullet seating?
You should watch the other videos in the series.
How are you lubing the case necks or mandrels when doing this? I've always used carbide size buttons so I've never had to lube necks. What does that process look like? I thought it would be included in this video
Dry lubing. Go back one video in the series.
Why you don’t use the mandrel in one step in your sizing die?
There was no mandrel for my sizing die at the time. They have come out with one though and I am using it now.
Question.....after using the mandrel do you clean out the dry lube before seating the bullet? Wonder if it makes a difference, good or bad.
No! The dry lube is an important part of bullet seating as well.
Hey man, awesome video! Can't help but notice the Supertrickler and ingenuity setup there.. What's your experience with both so far?
The powder throw video will be fairly soon. To be honest, I am struggling with the ST a little. It is capable of so much, but also a bit finicky. The learning mode is what will save it from being too finisky, but I have not worked enough with it yet.
Do you find that mandrel sizing results in easier and more consistent seating?
More consistent is the key. I can feel it. When a round is too easy or too hard it becomes a fouler round for me.
What is the diameter of your mandrel for 6BR?
Good question. I have tried a few. Am currently using .2415. With the little bit of spring back the brass ends up at .241 or two thou of neck tension.
What are your thoughts on dwell time and memory
I think there could be something to it. Loading for PRS matches is a compromise. I think if Bench Rest shooting or F-Class it may be more important to leave it there for a couple seconds. But have not seen much difference in my shooting. It would be an interesting test. I will add it to my list of things to do a test on! Thanks for watching.
@@precisionmatchtimer I completely agree. I have done it, and skipped it, and haven’t noticed a difference. For my prs needs I am skipping it until further convincing data has been gather.
Great videos. Thanks
@@LedGuitar1218 Won't stop me from testing it! But I think results will be exactly as you said. But I've been wrong before...
You dont allow your mandrel die to “float”, as explained in the setup by 21 century? It looks like you have the die screwed down tight against the turret….
There is some float. It is not all the way tight.