Drinking Espresso from the 1950s
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Thanks again to Ben Schofield for the opportunity to taste something so old!
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Thank you so much for the experience James! It was great to be able to get a glimpse behind the scenes, and apologies for the irreparable damage to your taste buds
Thank you for delivering 70 year old coffee to James! Very amusing video
And thank you Ben for adding another video to the "James drinks things that might break the Geneva convention" series
your ancestors were from Scotland
@@smallrossy Yup! Glasgow roots
Did you also taste the coffee? Can you share your thoughts?
There are few things more entertaining than an Englishman in mild discomfort.
Happens every World Cup...
This is by far my favorite comment on a TH-cam video ever.
I'm ctfu.
What a beautiful sentence.
I gain so much joy from James' disgusted expression.
James Hoffman: dont brew 2 weeks old beans
James Hoffman: brew 70 year old coffee
If they haven't been in contact with fresh air, you can brew two week old beans without any problem :)
Steve 1989: *Lights a 100 year old cigarette*
"What's it taste like?"
James Hoffmann: dont brew 2 weeks old beans
James Hoffmann: dont brew pre-ground coffee
James Hoffmann: brew 70 year old pre-ground coffee
I didn't really take that as a recommendation so much as a warning by example.
then repeatedly declares how awful it tastes, but keeps drinking. classic!
james: that's awful, I don't think I'm going to vomit but I'm almost there"
also james: *takes another sip*
@@-.-.-.-.-.. James in this video says it had a bit of a cacao taste, but cacao ages really badly and even if sealed well it can kill people there have been stories of 100 year old cacao killing people so be careful with old cacao/coffee because some coffee might be mixed with cacao
its priceless content
SteveMRE1989 vibe haha
takes another sip, makes an espresso out of it and sips that too
Andrew Zimmern school of tasting stuff. If you don't like the first bite/sip, take a second one. Sometimes a flavour is so foreign and strange that it seems bad at first and becomes good as your brain adjusts to the experience.
James: "People out there think this should go to an antique roadshow and never be drunk and they're WRONG!"
James minutes later: "If you have some of this lying around DONT DRINK IT"
...maybe just, maybe keep it sealed, maybe just look at it from time to time...maybe dont crack it open and drink it. That's my advice to you.
I hope you have a great day.
I for one, would never go to an antique roadshow, sober.
The value is in the tin, not the contents. The contents are a liability. Soda can collectors know this. The exception being if its in a glass bottle the color of the soda in the bottle makes it more pretty on a shelf.
@@MrWolfSnack so you're saying I can finally empty my childhood 1990s Coca Cola polar bear collectors cans into the sink?
edit: On second thought, what if Steve from MREInfo wants to drink those in 30 years?
@@lunakoala5053 I'm more amazed they never leaked. I was saving the Mountain Dew Halo game fuel from 2007 until it started leaking everywhere in 2010. There's still permanent stains down my wall where it was dripping.
British Museum: * finds 3000 year old coffee beans in ancient Egyptian tomb *
James Hoffman: "I must drink it"
@@seanhoogland1938 Honey never goes bad, coffee bean on the other hand ... ...
Thought balloon after the first sip, "I was wrong. They were RIGHT."
At the British Museum the phone ring and someone answers it. 'No, Mr Hoffman, as we said before.' 'Pharaoh Coffee was just an advertising idea.' 'It isn't really 3000 years old.'
What if the british museum just left other people's shit where they found it
I wanna try that 3k year old honey
What I learned from this: tea leaves age better than coffee beans. I've had tea from the 50s. It had an aged flavor but never tasted bad - never.
Was it stored correctly or just in a tin from the grocery store for 70 years
I would be interested to store and age coffee in a humidor like environment, maybe in charred oak or even bourbon barrels
Maybe you had Pu-erh tea. It ages well when stored correctly.
@@JZH10000 I guess it was stored away in a tea farmer's rafters before being discovered and a local tea shop got a stash of it.
@@MicukoFelton This was Tieguanyin.
I've had the pleasure of a 1960s Pu-erh, chipped right off a block. Exquisite stuff. I think it's because fermentation isn't a part of making a coffee bean, whereas it is critical to the processing of tea leaves.
James’s anxiety combined with dog taking dump in background is TH-cam gold!
I cracked at this.
Oh em gee.
James would have been better to have processed the dump.
Timestamp? :O
@@Velocirarrptor 3:35 . Lady holding plastic bags, wishing dog would hurry up. And seconds later, James sniffs the can and says "There's a mixture of smells..." Pure unadulterated unrehearsed serendipity. English humour at its classic best. Gotta love it!
Here we witness the slow transition of suave coffee enthusiast, advocate & businessman James Hoffman into the Steve1989MREInfo of coffee.
Amazing comment, I love Steve lol
Hope one day that James can review the famous coffee, instant, type 1 and compare it to the coffee, instant, type 2. I'm sure Steve can help..:)
Steve should deffinetly send him some of his coffee collection
"But James! You haven't given early-mid 20th century coffee a fair crack! If it were whole unground beans perhaps it would be a different experience!"
James: *grits his teeth through violent flashbacks, trauma & nausea to give it a fair crack*
-after tasting-
"it's exactly the same, but with more pungency. So now I feel worse than ever."
No hiss :(
i'm obsessed with the chaotic good energy of James' "There are people out there who believe this should go to Antiques Roadshow and never be drunk-and they're WRONG"
James might have changed his mind after drinking the vile stuff!
By the end he is "if you have some of this at home, maybe leave it on the shelf and don't open it, just admire it once in a while" hahaha
Steve1989MREInfo would probably say "Lets get this out onto a tray"... "NICE!"
He would actually say 'Dont be a wuss, I have Coffee Type A, Spray Dried, Coffee Instant, Coffee Core. Which year would you like?'
Nice hiss!
Watch the video to the end. ;)
@@TheMrVengeance ahh cheeky! I didnt catch that. And I did watch to the very end lol.
Nice hiss
Brought back memories. I had a rather different experience with some very old coffee. My in-law's family had owned a wholesale grocery in the Midwest of the US. They roasted and sold coffee, among many other grocery items. In the '40s, they were visited by a salesman with some premium Guatemalan coffee. He left them some small sealed tins of green beans to try out. They knew, from the price point and the quality of the coffee, that their customers would never pay that much, so the tins sat there. When I was visiting those relatives with my wife in the late '70s, her grandfather pulled out an unopened tin and asked if it would be any good still. I had no idea. However, this was Seattle, a few years after Starbuck's started. So, I trundled down there--to the original Pike Place store, as it was the only one they had at the time--and asked them how long green coffee beans stored. Smelling a rat, they asked how long it had been? When I told them, they were a little dubious But green, and still sealed, they thought they might be OK, and asked me to let them know how it went. I also asked for recommendations for roasting it and, as suggested, did the beans on the stove in a cast iron frying pan over fairly high heat. What I got was some lovely, coffee-smelling beans, if somewhat unevenly roasted. Ground them up in their old wall-mount, hand-crank grinder (what they used in the grocery warehouse for tasting) and probably ran them through a paper filter (no clear memory, but that seems likely). The result was coffee. Not great coffee--it was a bit unbalanced, with too-low acid--but perfectly drinkable coffee. Better, in fact, than the dishwater we used to get in hotels in those days.
Haha thanks for sharing! I know green beans can be stored for much longer then roasted beans (let alone roasted and ground like in the video) so if you find an old 70 year old tin of green beans it would probably have aged better than the stuff in this video :P
This was a lovely story, thank you very much for sharing.
We all get sadistic pleasure from watching James drinking decades old coffee, admit it.
8:43 - That reaction though haha
LOL
The weirdest thing is, I think James ever so slightly enjoys it at some masochistic level
I am screaming to myself "Don't do it!!!"
@@Arnogorter you can tell because he always goes back for seconds 😂
_"With notes of battery acid and pain."_
Bet you don't see that profile on many bags of coffee.
So basically starbucks espresso.
@@bigalandann Reads more like an extreme hotsauce label
Ah, memories from years gone by of the only time I foolishly bought a coffee from the local Burger King out of convenience.
Sounds like something you would hear in a Monty Python sketch
12:50 I love how he couldn't bring himself to say crema 😂
"It has got this acidity, this weird papery, cacao-ey taste that should be pleasant but is just unwelcome at the party. "
How is it possible to describe a situation (any situation) with such grace and ease, yet punctuated with deep disgust (albeit gently). I'm so entertained and very amused (or amazed) 😆
What a sophisticated way to say that it tasted like shit lmao
That's Brit for you lol
It's like watching "Jackass, The Espresso."
"It's bad. I have to remind myself it's pasteurized."
*takes another sip*
:D :D good one
Jackasspresso?
I just love Ben's reaction to the gift grinder. There's something so genuine about it, you can see the exact moment when he goes from "who, me?" to "oh, neato". Good job keeping a camera on him to capture it. :)
10:33 - I think this is a flabbergasted Ben!
Could have given him comandante :(
Glad someone else observed that 🤣
"Tastes of ... metal ... battery acid ... and PAIN!" Well, now we know why not to save our coffee for a rainy day. Thank you James, and thank you Ben!
"It's pasteurized" Also, rat poison can be boiled and still be rat poison.
Also, great video and thanks for not sending this off to the antiquities snobs and 'enjoying' it for us all to see. 😂
Yeah -- late to the party, but want to point this out as well; if something has been growing in the can, boiling / cooking it after the fact won't remove the toxins. Yes, it will kill the bacteria, but the toxic byproducts they produce will still be in there.
We need a 1950's coffee poster with "Metal, Battery Acid and Pain"
sounds like grog from Monkey Island
I just made one earlier:
www.canva.com/design/DAEO8VP78Yc/ea6oYqdzfoYthcEDNIc1oA/view?DAEO8VP78Yc&
"That was a terrible mistake", a few seconds later: "one more sip!" 10/10
Kinda like Steve with the MREs. Nice!
Yes, James forgot to bring the right water filter.
The bad thing with a James Hoffman taste reaction is that I have no idea if I would think it’s good or bad myself
Have you seen Hames Joffman? That is some funny stuff.
That’s the problem with all videos of people tasting anything
Or even just looking at someone eating something
It's a red herring. Everyone's tastebuds are different. People that think ranch dressing on a pizza is the best thing ever. I just want to vomit.
"I don't know if i'll ever taste again, should I taste it again?; i'm going to taste it again" LOL That is funny. Thanks for this vid. Was great.
James: Sorry it’s not your day hand grinder.
Hand Grinder: 🥺
James: Lets grind some a bit finer and pull some espresso.
Hand Grinder: 🥰
And then...
Hand Grinder: 🥺
James Hoffmann: There are people out there who believe that this should go to Antiques Road Show and never be drunk - and they're *wrong*.
Also James Hoffmann: If you discover coffee in your grandparent's attic, maybe just keep it sealed, maybe just look at it from time to time, maybe don't crack it open and drink it.
I was going to make an identical comment. He sure changed his mind, didn't he?
From a preservation standpoint do open the tin and remove the coffee. Any sort of foodstuffs containers remove the food. There are a handful that you wouldn't do at home. (paper wrapping for example, if it survived...) The reason why is as decomposition happens and it causes expansion which can destroy the container.
Also the tin seems to have been compromised at some point given the dent and spots of rust
He did the deed for us. Learn from his experience.
Super interesting James.
I discovered a coffee shop in Tokyo that aged beans for up to 20 and 30 years it was truly an incredible taste of coffee that I have not forgotten to this day!
I have not found anything like this outside of Japan!
Just because I put some salty fish on a shelf for 30 years doesnt make it katsuobushi
You could age them green, I suppose - but roasted? No.
@@davidfuller581 yes I think you are correct, they must have aged them green then roasted a few days before serving.
Poor Ben, having to watch as you spat out his family label.
"I don't know if I will ever taste again." "Should I taste it again?" - Incredible
The man is a scientist.
"I think I'm done, I think I'm done drinking that"
Less than a second later:
"Let's make an espresso out of it"
😂😂
I would actually LOVE to see more videos out here in this field! Specifically on outdoor coffee equipment and gear we could use out in the wild!
BUT WAS THERE A HISS WHEN YOU OPENED IT?
Also, you should get that out onto a tray.
That would be NICE
"Don't do this at home" so do it in a park. Got it.
Yes. That way if you you succumb to the coffee you have a chance a stranger or passerby will call emergency services.
I'm having a difficult time finding those notes on my flavor wheel.
You're channeling your inner Ashens and I'm loving it.
I absolutely ❤️ this guy. What a hilarious legend. He needs his own Netflix special.
“That was a terrible mistake”... TH-cam sensation James Hoffmann ladies and gentlemen
TH-cam sensation James Hoffmann, a few moments later: "one more sip..."
Don't forget,
"My taste bud may never forgive me. I may never taste again."
*Moments later*
"Should I taste it again?"
Made me lol irl.
“Metal, battery acid and pain”: sounds like a Deftones gig.
probably a mixture of the container chemical compounds, aluminium and a lot of fungus + coffee. Definitely interesting to watch - only :D
Haha Battery Acid reminded me of that Queens of the Stone Age song
Battery Acid in my veins , Unidentified remains of James post-bad decision espresso
This is a blend, about 50% courage and 50% crazy! Thank you for leading with courage!
"Did I do this okay?"
Lesson from Ashens: Never swallow it, and have Vodka at hand to wash and cleanse your mouth with.
Or go the Chef Excellence route and use Tesco value gin.
"This one's for Ben." and he smiled.
The mOnster
Let's be honest, I deserved it
It could have been worse. He could made a cup for Ben to try too...😁
@@cycg1935 don't you worry, he did
breaking news: distant ancestor of the coffee plant from 56 million years ago discovered in petrified tree sap
james: notes of roasted sauropod and volcanic ash
I admire and appreciate the immense suffering and curiosity that you bring to us, your devoted viewers and brewers, Jim. What an experience. What a paragon of our industry. Bless your poor, abused taste buds and gastrointestinal tract, my friend.
James, I consider myself new to the coffee world only having been drinking for about 5 years. I never really took the time to understand and take a good look at my drink until I saw the ultimate French press technique for the cleanest cup of coffee someone had recommended me.
I want to thank you for spending your time sharing this passion and for educating me. I look forward to my morning cup while visiting with your newest video from time to time. Keep on keeping on. 👍
"Looks a bit weak", proceeds to pour what looks like hot apple juice
Lol
@@Farquad76.547 that’s not him lol
“A bit”
Coffee snobs: “I would never grind coffee the night before, only ever fresh!”
James Hoffmann: “hand me some of that ground 70 year old coffee”
Remember when James admitted to grinding his morning brew coffee the night before and setting a timer? th-cam.com/video/HfkdkZRv6Mc/w-d-xo.html
People on r/coffee always say they save unused grounds for cold brew because grind freshness doesn't have a noticeable effect on cold brew flavor. You could put that to the test.
I got nothing else to say but a thank you for every useful you make for us and the coffee company ! Greetings from Greece !
Ben was my favourite barista at JCT Oxford, offering coffee geekiness to me in a town where there was little!!
Any other good places? Not had a great experience at JCT
@@SWatchik The Missing Bean and Vaults & Garden are two places I've had good experiences at. Wasn't as informed on coffee when I visited though so may be awful now.
@@SWatchik Brew on north parade avenue is the most consistent place probably
@@SWatchik I remember enjoying Colombia Coffee Roasters in the covered market
Ankit Siva they exploit staff apparently, don’t go there
"James Hoffman uploaded a video 22 seconds ago" now this is how to make my day
It’s 22 minutes for me but still stoked
It's always a pleasure to watch your videos @James Hoffmann. Thank you so much.
LMAO the last time i heard someone say "oh dear god" to drinking coffee was when I mistaken the salt for sugar when making it for my Mom 😂😅
Thank you for being the only youtuber who seems to give a damn about social distancing.
No one seems to be wearing a mask in London tough.
@@Sina-wt4xn Why would you wear a mask outside not close to anyone?
@@dv4497 I'm not specifically talking about the James's talking part of the video. In the first part of the video we're seeing people walking around and almost no one is wearing a mask. In my country everyone are wearing a mask and it doesn't matter if we're in indoor area or outside, According to WHO the virus can spread to 8 meters and infect people from that distance.
@@Sina-wt4xn Ummm everyone is pretty spaced out in an open field.
@@dv4497 It seems like a big park and yes people are spaced out but there are some narrow ways that people are have to pass from and they will be absolutely exposed there. Despite the fact that you might face the people that they might have a question from you or they want to talk to you for any reason, Or you want to buy something from the grocery store of the place. All I'm saying is that you can't guarantee the distance and the immunity of yourself.
Yes... sitting in a room, breathing the same air as Ben would be reckless...
However, drinking from 70 year old coffee grounds is completely acceptable.
Made My Day!
Thank You Ben & James ♡
Hey it’s post-spanish flu and pre-covid l
Baratza Encore is a great grinder! I have it myself. It's been doing its work dutifully for the past 5 years. Love the thing.
You are one brave soul! I really enjoy your videos. Thanks,
SteveR
New series suggestion: Drinking coffee in parks with James Hoffman.
Uhm, yes please
while late October is not the best time to start such series...
Ben and James' Park bench?
Do it!
Plot twist:
This was actually snuff and not coffee.
I don't know how I missed this James Hoffmann video until now, but this one is another gem! James' unscripted guest at 5:00 and his reaction at 13:10 had me in stitches with laughter.
Loved this. Thank you for taking one for the team.
"...apologies for not having a nice tray to set this out on"
Alright, let's get this out on a camping table, 𝙉𝙞𝙘𝙚!
"Hmmm. That's rancid." Siiip.
"Nice hiss!"
@@StoutShako takes another sip. Ohh that’s not too bad actually.
Need to get James to try some coffee instant type 2.
A man of culture
Tasting Notes: Metal, Battery Acid, Pain; sounds like Starbucks
at least they have syrups to make the pain sweeter in a way
This was so.good, im still laughing xdd
True. But you try spitting it out on the floor in Starbucks. They get very cross with you.
@@bigblue6917 so you did that too...
If only Starbucks had that much character
I loved the 'on the field' videos, love to see more parks or parts around the city
Extra points for not being distracted by all the puppers running into frame.
His facial expressions after first taste were priceless.
70 year old coffee, a socially distanced get together and just the loveliest rain jacket, what more could we ask for?
Love this -- so entertaining, and funny
And I love the effort to help those who need help -- FIRST CLASS!!
Cheers!
Brilliant! Thanks for the good comedy on a rainy day here as well.
The dogs running around in the background was magnificent 😊
It was fun to see you film outside, I’d definitely be up for seeing another video or two outdoors if you can find a good reason for it. :)
Also thanks Ben for giving us the gift of James suffering through multiple sips of this coffee. I hope you have another (empty) can you can keep as a family memento!
I'm so not used to well mastered music on intros to youtube videos that it alarmed me that perhaps my headphones weren't connected and it was instead playing out of my computer speakers. That's refreshing. Already glad I subscribed.
Dear James, you told me not to do this at home so I went to a park with a tiny fold up table and a portable espresso making setup and recreated your experiment.
11:38. "Fenton, Fenton. FENTON! JESUS CHRIST FENTON!"
I was half expecting that dog to come bounding up and gallop through the whole set up. 😂
Top comment!
For his next trick, James will be grinding some dirt from the ground around him, and brewing it.
It would probably taste better.
I can finally be content with the Starbucks cold brew I drink when I watch his videos.
usual taste description: "chocolaty, nutty, smoky"
1950s taste description: "pain"
The way James responded to that pup is so representative of his character in general, that was wonderful.
Also, fancy seeing Ben! JCT was a regular haunt back when I commuted through Oxford. Hope he's up to cool coffee things now!
Pahahaha it is a small world isn't it?
Is JCT jericho coffee trader?
The description of "Metal, and battery acid... and and pain" is a thing of art. Thank you for sharing this experience with us :)
Oh James, my sides hurt from laughing so much! 🤣🤣 After a hard week, this was what I needed. So thank you for making my Saturday 😊 Good on you for accepting Ben’s challenge. Hope you didn’t feel ill afterwards.
Hi James. Just wanted to mention that here in my little town of Emerald, Victoria Australia we have a number of local cafes selling the most wonderful coffee…all praise to ‘incy wincy’, ‘the general food store, ‘Bam Bam Italian’ and ‘penny and a pickle’ …..thanks..
the intro walk and the music was quite calming. well done James!
Someone in italy: I found coffee from julius caesar’s era, wanna try?
James: 🏃🏻✈️
This was brilliant and definitely brightened up my week.
Awesome video I love the boldness and enthusiasm!!
Your giveaway has put a tear in my eye, James. I think more than anything it shows a willingness to step out of your comfort zone. And more than the giveaway itself, your leading by example and inspiring people to help others in whatever way they can. Me personally too, i'm trying to understand that really it's the effort that counts, however grand or limited our means.
James is the best!
One of my newfound joys in life is watching James Hoffmann drink bad coffee. #thisiscourage
Why am I enjoying this so much - this video is so great!
I lived on Crete for a few years in the mid 80s. There was a Nescafe coffee that looked (and smelled...as per your description) just like that...it was some of my favorite coffee EVER.
This video has strong "Dad, I don't think we should go camping again" energy in an extremely wholesome way
Next video: Smuggling coffee findings from an archeology site in Ethiopia and trying.
“... and pain?” Thank you for your dedication.
Guess Antiques Roadshow is shaking their collective fingers and saying “Wouldn’t listen!”
This is so exciting! I’m so amazed at how I’m on the edge of my seat.
"Oh the finish! It keeps going...is that metal? Battery acid? Pain?"
I havnt laughed that hard for a while!!
This is how a gentleman drinks ground rancid coffee. Thank you James for taking one for the team.
I bought a hand grinder from 1885 that probably sat in an attic for the past 80 years, who knows? I took it apart to clean it and the coffee that was stuck to the burrs was exactly the same orange as the coffee in your 70 year old tin. And that grinder is now my daily grinder. It's fast and the grind is real nice.
I have never felt so joyous at a James Hoffman review
This episode of "Time traveling with James Hoffman" is extremely british :v
Extremely English ...
Thankfully it’s James Hoffman...
You've heard of The Doctor, but have you heard of The Barista, exploring all of coffee throughout time and space?
James Hoffman: Nup
Steve1989MREInfo: Nice
Should have stuck to the Freeze Dried Coffee Instant!
But did you hear that hiss? should have had a shot there!
@Joe Anderson .... I am so glad I am not the only one who immediately thought of Steve1989MREInfo!!! cheers!
my first through as well
13:58 I'm pretty new to this kind of coffee enthusiasm and I found your videos--I must've watched 12 videos of yours before seeing this one? This moment is what really gave me respect for you and your dedication to your craft. Subbed. Cheers.
"oh dear god" -- total laugh out loud on that one.
thoroughly enjoying the expressions too, as usual. :D