Wes convincing Evan in the Duel to call out CT so he didn’t have to was a pretty smart move. In the Island, when the guys made a deal with Evelyn to keep themselves safe and pick her for their boat. Although that move did suck for Paula lol
I was a big fan of Kam's power move. it wasn't the best, but it was our first showing of Kam the master mind.. But mostly Da'Vonne's confessions were gold. She was having none of that white rug Kam had around her neck lol
I think it’s edited to exaggerate the “power” of this move, I think it a smart defensive move but the show edits it to be the genius play which I would agree w if the end result was two strong teams facing each other rather than rookies. Still was great to watch the antics 😂
Sylvia deserved the Oscar that year. Or at least an emmy for that performance. She sold it perfectly. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Kam will always have the crown. Vendettas showed her physical capabilities as a Killa and Final Reckoning showed she can destroy you with her mind. She is the ultimate package. I love her. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
@@ville666sora I'll definitely agree with u there cuz anyone could've taken out Faith&Angela and same for Jozea&Da'Vonne really but Da'vonne i feel could've had a good season if she wasn't stuck with probably the worst player of the challenge ever
And what’s so crazy is kam ain’t no champion, Sarah will never come back to the challenge after bananas pulled a big move on her and Ashley is never going to win again Bc she’s a snake sooooo…
I agree, but I feel production keeps butting into her moves because this time no matter what Hunter & Ashley would be coming in and then in Double Agents she wanted to take a shot at CT and it was a women's day. It feels when Kam tries to make a big move the production is a foil which I would just like a more straight forward game to let the players play and make the moves they want. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I would also point out that the plan to let Evan win the season and pool the money is also smart because apparently Evan would have less tax money taken out of his prize money due to Canadian tax laws compared to Mark or Brad
God I complained about Double Agents being long and drawn out...but damn I am dying for a new challenge season! We've been spoiled for content the last few yrs. Thank the lord for Angelcake!!!
I completely agree with Ashley’s decision, but I think they were both equally trashy to each other and although Ashley received a huge payout, she has been targeted heavily and early each of the following seasons she’s been on.
Thank You. I don’t fault her for taking life changing money but I truly hate when she gets a pass. Hunter was equally if not more terrible that season but Ashley has been terrible on basically every season she appeared on
I feel like Ashley is probably still a target on every season she does, regardless of if she stole Maybe she would’ve lasted longer on WOTW1 if she split, but honestly, she only had 1 real ally in Amanda that season, I doubt she’d make it far either way
@@jonnykilroy9762 she was awful that season as well. They should’ve split the money. She deserves no pass. Horrible loser, quits all the time and she wouldn’t be there without hunter. Disgusting move. Sure great tv. But anyone clapping their hands for her decision is quite shitty themselves.
@@TheKYLEdavid she always will be because she’s a sore loser you can get to quit because she become and is a unbearable human being who throws temper tantrum’s when she doesn’t get her way. She already the worst champion of all time. Hopefully she never wins again because she doesn’t deserve it. Screw Ashley Mitchell.
Agreed. It's really impressive how she had the whole house pressed and made moves in just her second season. She's amazing. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Yeah that's a big one that really helped both their games especially Bananas who went on to win that season. Very smart move. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Duel 2, the entire process of getting rid of Landon. The other guys quickly agreeing to throw Landon in the elimination when he left the room and then in the elimination, Brad swinging Landon's ring so he had time to get to his ring and win the elimination. Landon would have won the final with relative ease if he had been allowed to get there.
The house was smart to send him in. If he made it to the finals everyone could kiss that prize money and 1st place goodbye. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
definitely thought that Tori and Jordan joining the UK team was one of the best! The US team was so toxic, and they kept getting rid of their strongest players and that came back to bite them.
I wouldn’t call it one of the dumbest moves but I’m sure Leroy has regrets about that season. Had he sided with the other alliance the vote flips and Tori/Jordan probably don’t swap sides and the US most likely cruise to a win
Two smart moves not mention are both from kyle christie. Vendettas: he pretend to be dumb but actually made smart moves. During one of the dailies, him, tony & bananas had to pick teams. Kyle suggested that they pick teams based off voting. That way if they lose they'll still be good with who wouldnt vote them in. WOTW2 - the destruction of the US team was because of kyle. He was the one who told laurel about the alliances.
For Ashley M's Smart move it lead to the "Banana Curse" where she couldn't make a final and lost in eliminations (twice on double agents). I'm not sure that move had any longevity for her time on each season but curses can be broken. Sarah Rice the same concept had she not pulled the move she did she could have beaten them in a final. Again the curse of screwing over a friend had dire consequences but at least she is a two time champ for her efforts. Smart moves in their respective seasons but the backlash carried over to many seasons and many eliminations lost.
A smart move was that same battle of the sexes i think. mark, danny, theo, and Eric had a strategy of that 2 of them would be in the captain spots each mission. That was if they win they kept there alliance and if the guys lost, they would swing the vote to the 3rd captain. They controlled the game
Would love to see a fantasy cast list and video around this concept: The Challenge Champ Sh*t Only 2 options: every player for themselves, or 2 teams, team1 players who have only won once, team2 players with 2 or more wins. And preferably a paramount showcase instead of mtv
This is a very interesting idea. I can try to work on it and see what I can come up with. Thank you for watching and the video suggestion. I really appreciate it!
Have you considered doing a best of series with final specific activities like top 5 men and women of all time. For example: swimming, distance running, eating, puzzles, math, snow related activities, mountain climbing, canoeing/kayaking, partnership, and team member.
I had not but this is a great idea. I was gonna start a full rewatch of the season soon where I start from the very beginning and power through all the seasons in order. This would be great to keep in mind while I take a ton of notes. Thank you for watching and the video suggestion. I really appreciate it!
Dario’s move in rivals 3 was dumb. Whether cory and ashley had an alliance with everyone or not, Sarah & Bananas were the strongest team in the house by far.
There’s always that one round of voting that kind of turns the season one way or the other and this was it. I remember Wes and Cory were pissed while Bananas just chuckled bc he knew it was dumb but he knew he and Vince would most likely skate to the end now
Frank was a killer politician and I believe the reason why Zach is a Challenge champ. I don't agree with his tactics of taking low blows to people on the seasons. But he was effective. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
CT saving team uk from the final elimination cementing the team for a final to beat the U.S team. The same team that thought CT would do what they wanted well really what cara and Pauly wanted 🤣 that’s the smartest move I thought
I feel like that was just a matter of CT accurately predicting when the Final would happen Had there been 1 more set of eliminations after that episode, I could easily see Team US sending in CT against Jordan if Team UK lost the elimination
Thank you. I am happy you liked the video, I have a ton more coming. I can't wait for the next season to start. Hopefully it's soon. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I couldn't make the whole video Wes LOL I had to diversify. I did talk about his whole Exes 2 seasons and Total Madness. He has more instances but I feel those two seasons he did a great job with. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Exes and Rivals are like my two favorite series the Challenge has done. Really top tier. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Watching the past seasons,the greatest move was when Ashley decided to KEEP THE MONEY(she was given a choice,that's not stealing)and not share any with hunter. At first I thought it was a dirty move until they showed the replays of how he treated her throughout that season but hunter always argued with a girl or tried to defend cory or nelson when they clearly put themselves in a situation to get sent home. I never liked him since he was a rookie
It definitely worked out the best way possible for Jordan and Tori to turncoat. They did really well on the UK side vs the US side where their athleticism wasn’t really valued.
Jordan and Tori kept getting sent in but it worked out for them in the long run. Tori had to deal with Jenny while Jordan got Josh which was the best thing for him. It was ultimately the smartest move they could do that season. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Tony sending Bananas into elimination against Devon in Vendettas even though he didn’t win hands down smartest move it was the perfect storm to catch Bananas off his game right before a Final with only one Winner I’ll be the first person to give Zach and Cara Maria all the credit I can I’m sure if they beat Bananas in an individual Final
For sure. You don't get 7 wins unless you are smart. I just wanted to diversify the video with other smart moves. I am looking into making a Bananas documentary which will lay out his journey, Challenge career and smart moves. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Ill say Wes from War of the Worlds. Imo his best gameplay ever, he just ran into a Turbo in the finals. If Cara solves the puzzle he at least woulda had 2nd, I believe he was in the most tribunals that season also.
I agree, Wes did well in his comeback from a hiatus but I also felt like the heavy lifting was done during the offseason and I wanted to keep the moves from what happened on The Challenge. But I agree, he killed the season and came in third only to Turbo (Turkish god) and Theo (an Olympic athlete). Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I don’t think Frank could have been effective with his rookie strategy if the cast of battle of the seasons wasn’t already majority rookies. The only thing I can really give him with that is that Wes didn’t think of it first lol Also, unpopular opinion…Wes’ political game > bananas’ political game.
I can see where you are coming from, but we've seen rookies in seasons but seldom do they come together to really try to take out the vets. I felt everyone was enamored by Frank and he knew if they could take out the vets, his team would be unrivaled all the way to the finals. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I'm sorry Angel, but that Dario move was one of the stupidest moves I've seen in challenge history. And I can't believe you put it in a smart move video big dog smh 💯
@@lawtraf8008 Any season Kam is on, she has reinvented her playstyle and continued to grow. Though she has never won a challenge, she has the greatest potential to become a champ.
@@Ahzula01 Thank God, I thought you were a Kam hater LMAO 😂😂 and I wanted it some clarifications. I love Kam, she's my favorite. I'm arguing with so many idiots here who are insulting and disrespecting Kam.
@@Ahzula01 Kam is queen and I would put her whole career here but I wanted to show off other smart moves. I will make her own video though when I do the full research. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
If anyone was smart they should have been taking Johnny Crybaby Bananas out early in the game not letting him sit back and make it to the finals every season
I agree, but he was premature volunteering. He was worried that the finals were close when they still had like awhile before that time. He had enough time and probably would've won another spot in the tribunal to send himself in later in the season. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I can't find S34 but S35 is still on MTV.com. If you have a cable provider or sign up for the 24 hour pass you can watch Total Madness. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Kam’s smart move wasn’t all that good when it resulted in the eventual winners coming in the game . You shouldn’t have to make ” big “ moves to take out weaker players
The move by itself was genius and great strategy. It was just wasted. The way everybody burned votes it still would’ve worked just the same had she turned the gun on say Brad/Kyle or even Bananas/Tony
She made that move to protect the vets. She was thinking long term so the vets would have her back in the game. If there is one player that isn't afraid of anyone, it's Kam.
Mark got paid. Battle of the Sexes 2 the guys gave him a kickback at the reunion and Duel 2 they pooled their money in and split it evenly. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I think anybody taking all the money is such a jacked up thing to do because at the end of the day , they still needed that person to win. If they as a team had did worst then, they'd at least get the 2nd and 3rd place prizes which is more than zero... But in this situation specifically , I think they both were awful to each other. They showed those situations to try and justify it , but didn't show the stuff that she did also. At the end of the day, I say split the money and let karma handle that person. But that's just me...
Mark takes dives to ensure money and has done it in multiple seasons. In sports that's called rigging/fixing and cheating. That's not a smart move that's spineless
That is not always the case. If you win you have a good shot of being asked back. But not always. I'm sorry if something in the video lead to some miscommunication. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
This is a great video suggestion. I'll take a look into some research and see what I can come up with. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Wes was having a hell of a season and in a blink of an eye he was in a Hall Brawl against Leroy with little to no chance to make it farther. It was a shame lol Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I'm not on board with the side deals like Mark's where the money is pooled and split etc. I feel it goes against the essence of the game and isn't as fun for the audience to watch a rigged competition with no real urgency or heart.
I agree, I am not a fan of this idea. But I'm looking at Mark's perspective as it's smart for him to get paid when everyone else could've just said no and the same outcome would've happened. I wouldn't take the deal but somehow everyone that Mark spoke to did. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Idk. I am still on the fence about whether I want to cover BB this season. I am still feeling like I was burned from last season. And I feel I am getting in a good rhythm after I took the week off from being burned out to where I don't want to overload my schedule. But we'll see. I will watch Wednesday's episode and see how I feel. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
The only reason San Diego won in BOTS was because Devon was on Team Brooklyn. If it was just Sarah and Chet or JD and Sarah Brooklyn would've one. I was rooting for them all the way. Usually I root for the rookies because the vets always won but Frank and Zach are trash human beings.
I legit can't stand Frank and Zach. I mean BOTS (2012) is one of the toughest seasons to watch because of how disgusting it is and how much bullying there was. So many low blows and just toxic masculinity during the season. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
135 As much as I respect and value your opinion, From my perspective Cam wasn't making a flex move, instead she was showing the world how grimmy she was, a total phony lying and betraying those who respected and trusted her. Think of future seasons were Kam played a scared game, hiding behind Caria Maria and Paulie both of whom manipulated everyone they could, threatened others with their numbers and failed everyone by Paulies poor performance. Kam claimed she and Leroy were a power couple, but neither had ever won a final!
You're clearly a kam hater LMAO. She made a move. Tell me one person trustworthy there lol. Banana, CT, Wes, Kyle, Cara Maria and many others have done 10 times worse and are way more sneaky than Kam but you do not care . Also The fact that both of them never won a final don't mean they aren't ones of the strongest. CT who's a legend of the challenge didn't win till his 10th season lol. Kam in 5 seasons made it to 3 finals and her elimination record is one of the best ever, she's a beast. CT himself even recognized it last season and regretted so much not choosing her instead of Ashley in the beginning. People are always scared to go to eliminations against her because she proved to be one of the best. In last season, we saw it again when she was sent it by Theresa and Jay against Ashley millionaire. Theresa said herself that knowing that Ashley is one of the best, she had to send a stronger person who can take her out and Kam showed why she's called Killa Kam. I always remember that elimination because of Jay shocked face and comments. While talking to Theresa he said " 10 wins, 1 loss, that's how good she is, she's a beast" and Theresa just look at him and nodded saying " I know" . In the others seasons after Final reckoning, she didn't play a scared game, she started having many friends so she was always in the team with the numbers. Everybody in the challenge want to have the numbers to be comfortable, they all do. If having the numbers is playing a scared game then all of them have played a scared game at least once, even the big players like CT, Wes or Banana. You're such a hater and that's pathetic. If you do not like her that's fine but do not try to lie or say she's not one of the strongest and smartest competitors of The challenge. I have many people that I do not like like Wes, Cara Maria and others but I'm not going to deny the fact that they are ones of the strongest, that's a fact. Try to be better.
Leroy isn't a manipulative liar like Kam keeps proving that she is. Kam followed behind Cara Maria and Paulie because Kam was playing a scared game, just relying on numbers not her own skill set. Kam maybe good physically at challenges but she is a liar and manipulative which if she is such a beast she doesn't need to play a scared game...
@@ellej3112 I’d give you WOtW2 she did hide in the alliance but other than that she always stands on her own feet and played her own game. And what had she lied about? I hope you aren’t referring to Leroy’s agreement with Kyle last season
It sucks that they aren’t more athletic competitive LGBTQ+ males MTV can find to do challenges on the show but Frank was extremely disgusting on BotS-2012 to Sam so I don’t blame them for not bringing him back plus even Frank knew how toxic he was becoming so he got out of it. Tyler became great though he was a mega bust on his first 2 challenges. To be fair Ashley is a toxic human being herself and MTV pushes her as the preeminent star female advocate on the network. 1. Caught body-shamimg Jamie on Rivals 3 2. Instigating a fight between Turbo & Jordan on WotW 2 3. “Allegedly” spitting on Bear on Total Madness
Frank definitely knew how to play the game but he was very toxic and taking low blows to hurt everyone on a personal level was disgraceful. I really liked Tyler. Winning two seasons in a row is really impressive. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
You have no idea what what you're talking about. Getting rid of the rookies to protect the vets is was the purpose of her move. That was so she could be protected by the vets in the long run. Having the vets as your friends and not as enemies is as the best thing.
Honestly would rather not have Mark come back. I don't want to see people who throw challenges, and make deals to let other people win as long as they get a cut of the prize money. Not saying it wasn't smart, but just so boring and underwhelming.
It had most of the house fooled and in a panic that basically swayed votes in favor of her plan to get rid of a team she didn't like. It wasn't a power move, but it was definitely smart and makes for great TV. Also, it positioned her in the house as not only a physically strong competitor, but a mentally strong one as well.
@@DonnKnee No, not it all. It just showed that they were willing to openly lie to the whole house and cant be trusted. That play is something you can only do once and doing it early to get rid of a non threat is completely sloppy gameplay.
The point of the move was that she could ensure that the team of their choice could go in without having to worry about people throwing votes and the vote going sideways Keep in mind that 1 episode earlier, basically the entire house said they wanted Angela and Faith in, but then almost everyone burned votes and then Tori & Derrick and Joss & Sylvia went in for no real reason Plus, she wanted to ensure that she could protect her allies, since the first Elimination Candidate could pick anyone who voted for them. Whereas if they just let the chips fall where they may, then one of their good allies could’ve been picked as the Second Elimination Candidate (assuming there was no Mercenary twist, which Kam & Kayleigh couldn’t predict)
@@DonnKnee No one considered Kam and Kayleigh a threat. Duh. The "rep and respect" is just to build character for the audience not something recognized by the smart players.
Ultimately though it's Ashley's choice to give him half of her money that she won for her performance in the final or not. It was a great move and super smart. Ashley taking that money guarantees she gets called for years to come to be on the show.
Ashley would have taken the money from Hunter even if he would have been nice to her. The threats were just the justification she could use to try to look like the good guy. Dont believe everything a reality tv contestant says
If you think Johnny was Badass for taking the money from Sarah, then I presume you think Ashley was just as Badass for taking the money from Hunter. Ashley wouldn't have made it to the finals without Hunter and Johnny wouldn't have made it to the finals without Sarah.
@Franco Bradshaw Because I mention Ashley taking the money in the video as a smart move but I didn't mention Bananas doesn't mean I find one smart and the other one dumb. I chose to highlight Ashley's decision because that was her Challenge moment that put her on the map and gave her the persona of Ashley "Millionaire" Mitchell. It was her turnkey to Challenge legacy. At the time Bananas took all the money, he was a 6x Challenge champ. He already had staked his claim as the winningest competitor and him taking all the money was etching his name deeper in the record books, adding another big win in history and enlongating his legacy. Also he gave the reasons that he didn't know how long he was going to be doing the Challenge after that moment but he then came back for every single season which I feel was his justification along with the Exes 2 betrayal. I think it was smart for his overall legacy. But Ashley doing it in her 4th season (she quit ep1 of Dirty 30), her second win where whether she quit more or left episode 1 the next three seasons she was guaranteed spots on the Challenge and will be in the top 5 of prize money won for a long time. Also everytime she's on the show that's all people talk about with her. So it gave her the persona she needed to go from good player to icon. Bananas was already and will be at the top spot in Challenge stats for a long long long time. That's why I included Ashley's move in the video.
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Very important.
Tell me youre a brown noser with out telling me
Idk…Cory cursing himself in this past season so all his partners got eliminated until he finally got Kam is pretty freaking smart 🤷🏽♀️😂
True he kept himself out of elimination too
@@marcofanik7074 yep! Genius move
Kam aint that good though lol
@@ville666sora ain't that good? Kam was the best girl in s36 lol
@@Jay-rg7fl still got cursed cuz they didn't win
Wes convincing Evan in the Duel to call out CT so he didn’t have to was a pretty smart move. In the Island, when the guys made a deal with Evelyn to keep themselves safe and pick her for their boat. Although that move did suck for Paula lol
I loved that. Never cared for Paula and I enjoyed watching her get screwed over
I was a big fan of Kam's power move. it wasn't the best, but it was our first showing of Kam the master mind.. But mostly Da'Vonne's confessions were gold. She was having none of that white rug Kam had around her neck lol
I think it’s edited to exaggerate the “power” of this move, I think it a smart defensive move but the show edits it to be the genius play which I would agree w if the end result was two strong teams facing each other rather than rookies. Still was great to watch the antics 😂
My favorite was Kam’s plan because of Sylvias acting ….but very underwhelming result
Sylvia deserved the Oscar that year. Or at least an emmy for that performance. She sold it perfectly. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Kam will always be the queen after that move she pulled she was already killa kam but she leveled up in that moment
Kam will always have the crown. Vendettas showed her physical capabilities as a Killa and Final Reckoning showed she can destroy you with her mind. She is the ultimate package. I love her. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
She wanted to throw in rookies though lol. If you're going to go through all of that, then make a big move.
@@ville666sora I'll definitely agree with u there cuz anyone could've taken out Faith&Angela and same for Jozea&Da'Vonne really but Da'vonne i feel could've had a good season if she wasn't stuck with probably the worst player of the challenge ever
Killa Kam, Queen Kam, Millionaire Mitchell and Savage Sarah. I love the women of the challenge
And what’s so crazy is kam ain’t no champion, Sarah will never come back to the challenge after bananas pulled a big move on her and Ashley is never going to win again Bc she’s a snake sooooo…
Kam’s plan was executed so well! It would of been even better if she got heavy hitters out that way.
I agree, but I feel production keeps butting into her moves because this time no matter what Hunter & Ashley would be coming in and then in Double Agents she wanted to take a shot at CT and it was a women's day. It feels when Kam tries to make a big move the production is a foil which I would just like a more straight forward game to let the players play and make the moves they want. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
And the acting crying by Sylvia was Oscar worthy
@@AngelcakeVids I couldn't agree more with you.
Veronica's Dirty 30 & The Ruins deliberation moments.
This should just be a whole video about Kam because she rocks the competition with how smart she plays
😂😂😂😂😂
I would also point out that the plan to let Evan win the season and pool the money is also smart because apparently Evan would have less tax money taken out of his prize money due to Canadian tax laws compared to Mark or Brad
God I complained about Double Agents being long and drawn out...but damn I am dying for a new challenge season! We've been spoiled for content the last few yrs. Thank the lord for Angelcake!!!
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I completely agree with Ashley’s decision, but I think they were both equally trashy to each other and although Ashley received a huge payout, she has been targeted heavily and early each of the following seasons she’s been on.
Thank You. I don’t fault her for taking life changing money but I truly hate when she gets a pass. Hunter was equally if not more terrible that season but Ashley has been terrible on basically every season she appeared on
I feel like Ashley is probably still a target on every season she does, regardless of if she stole
Maybe she would’ve lasted longer on WOTW1 if she split, but honestly, she only had 1 real ally in Amanda that season, I doubt she’d make it far either way
@Jacob Bradford every time that decision is always prefaced with “well Hunter did XYZ” maybe it’s not a pass but people always build in an excuse
@@jonnykilroy9762 she was awful that season as well. They should’ve split the money. She deserves no pass. Horrible loser, quits all the time and she wouldn’t be there without hunter. Disgusting move. Sure great tv. But anyone clapping their hands for her decision is quite shitty themselves.
@@TheKYLEdavid she always will be because she’s a sore loser you can get to quit because she become and is a unbearable human being who throws temper tantrum’s when she doesn’t get her way. She already the worst champion of all time. Hopefully she never wins again because she doesn’t deserve it. Screw Ashley Mitchell.
"I'm not a huge fan of Hunter"🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I 💯lost my mind 🤯when Wes and Bananas were working together. I can't wait to see them do it again.
If Wes would've been more patient he could've made it to the finals. Didn't need to go in against johnny.
Kam's move was one of the best ever
Agreed. It's really impressive how she had the whole house pressed and made moves in just her second season. She's amazing. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Kam is the Queen of big moves.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Season 35 Wes and Bananas throwing Jordan into a pole wrestle against Fessy.
Yeah that's a big one that really helped both their games especially Bananas who went on to win that season. Very smart move. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Mark making all these deals and getting kick backs from the actual winners is very godfather-like for him.
Kam pulled off the single greatest political move in Challenge history 🙌🏻
Duel 2, the entire process of getting rid of Landon. The other guys quickly agreeing to throw Landon in the elimination when he left the room and then in the elimination, Brad swinging Landon's ring so he had time to get to his ring and win the elimination. Landon would have won the final with relative ease if he had been allowed to get there.
The house was smart to send him in. If he made it to the finals everyone could kiss that prize money and 1st place goodbye. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Ashley's Final Reckoning spiel is so freaking iconic, I memorized it, word for word HAHA lol
definitely thought that Tori and Jordan joining the UK team was one of the best! The US team was so toxic, and they kept getting rid of their strongest players and that came back to bite them.
I wouldn’t call it one of the dumbest moves but I’m sure Leroy has regrets about that season. Had he sided with the other alliance the vote flips and Tori/Jordan probably don’t swap sides and the US most likely cruise to a win
I’m glad you put Ashley on smartest moves. What he said was foul and people really do sleep on her she’s a stealth ninja
Two smart moves not mention are both from kyle christie.
Vendettas: he pretend to be dumb but actually made smart moves. During one of the dailies, him, tony & bananas had to pick teams. Kyle suggested that they pick teams based off voting. That way if they lose they'll still be good with who wouldnt vote them in.
WOTW2 - the destruction of the US team was because of kyle. He was the one who told laurel about the alliances.
I always wondered about that he lit the flame under the US team and tore them apart lollllll
Omg that one lie in WOTW2 really blew up the American team 😂
@@Itisthatdeepdives which lie was it? I dont remember.
@@welibra8914
The alliance was a lie. He made it up.
For Ashley M's Smart move it lead to the "Banana Curse" where she couldn't make a final and lost in eliminations (twice on double agents). I'm not sure that move had any longevity for her time on each season but curses can be broken. Sarah Rice the same concept had she not pulled the move she did she could have beaten them in a final. Again the curse of screwing over a friend had dire consequences but at least she is a two time champ for her efforts. Smart moves in their respective seasons but the backlash carried over to many seasons and many eliminations lost.
Whenever Ashley won a challenge championship, she usually does poorly in the next few
she made it to the final again 2 seasons later lol
@@sindysus5865 true but ever since hasn't made a final since
@@jablackjam yea but that’s because of casting imo she’s constantly been the only female champ on casts
@@sindysus5865 therefore the curse continues until further notice
Nelson’s move was incredible in invasions
A smart move was that same battle of the sexes i think. mark, danny, theo, and Eric had a strategy of that 2 of them would be in the captain spots each mission. That was if they win they kept there alliance and if the guys lost, they would swing the vote to the 3rd captain. They controlled the game
For me it's CT roasting tarrell owens so hard he left a charity season cuz the truth hurt him
Would love to see a fantasy cast list and video around this concept:
The Challenge Champ Sh*t Only
2 options: every player for themselves, or 2 teams, team1 players who have only won once, team2 players with 2 or more wins. And preferably a paramount showcase instead of mtv
This is a very interesting idea. I can try to work on it and see what I can come up with. Thank you for watching and the video suggestion. I really appreciate it!
@@AngelcakeVids awesome content man!
@@caleb8407 Thank you. I really appreciate you saying that. I am working hard on making good content and I have a lot more coming.
Wes and Kam's moves are epic.
Have you considered doing a best of series with final specific activities like top 5 men and women of all time. For example: swimming, distance running, eating, puzzles, math, snow related activities, mountain climbing, canoeing/kayaking, partnership, and team member.
I had not but this is a great idea. I was gonna start a full rewatch of the season soon where I start from the very beginning and power through all the seasons in order. This would be great to keep in mind while I take a ton of notes. Thank you for watching and the video suggestion. I really appreciate it!
Dario’s move in rivals 3 was dumb. Whether cory and ashley had an alliance with everyone or not, Sarah & Bananas were the strongest team in the house by far.
There’s always that one round of voting that kind of turns the season one way or the other and this was it. I remember Wes and Cory were pissed while Bananas just chuckled bc he knew it was dumb but he knew he and Vince would most likely skate to the end now
I wanna see Frank come back. He was a beast.
Frank was a killer politician and I believe the reason why Zach is a Challenge champ. I don't agree with his tactics of taking low blows to people on the seasons. But he was effective. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
@@AngelcakeVids facts are facts Drew! I definitely loved seeing him compete but the low blows were not it.
@@tararain97 watch his Mike Lewis podcast interview. Doubt he’ll be back anytime soon
CT saving team uk from the final elimination cementing the team for a final to beat the U.S team. The same team that thought CT would do what they wanted well really what cara and Pauly wanted 🤣 that’s the smartest move I thought
I feel like that was just a matter of CT accurately predicting when the Final would happen
Had there been 1 more set of eliminations after that episode, I could easily see Team US sending in CT against Jordan if Team UK lost the elimination
Yes! Down with Cara's Cult!!
Kams move would’ve been more impressive if she outsmarted vets and making 2 strong teams go against each other
Great vid keep it up can’t wait for the next season
Thank you. I am happy you liked the video, I have a ton more coming. I can't wait for the next season to start. Hopefully it's soon. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I'm still convinced that Wes was offered a huge bonus to go in against Johnny on TM.
I'm shocked that Wes isn't on here more. 😏😏😏
I couldn't make the whole video Wes LOL I had to diversify. I did talk about his whole Exes 2 seasons and Total Madness. He has more instances but I feel those two seasons he did a great job with. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Lmao I love that the dumb moves video was like twice as long as the smart moves video
I felt the smart moves would need more explaining so I had fewer instances of them to explain more on why I felt they were a smart move.
u should do best performances in a challenge like jordan in ww2
That's an interesting idea. Thank you for watching and the video suggestion. I really appreciate it!
i will never get over battle of the exes 2 Wes played it beautfully if it wasnt for exile the final was his
I still feel like Kam doin that move you showed to start is like, bigger or almost big as a Win😂😂😂 became a icon 😭😭
It was a huge risk but she executed it perfectly.
You'll blow up soon man. Keep it up. Great videos.
I literally lost my sh!t when Wes and Bananas worked together. 😱🤯😳🤤😃
Okay I’ll give you wes on that one season but the thing is he hasn’t changed his strategy since then he try’s the same thing every game
Only with bananas i hear conspiracy theories about guys throwing challenges just to get some of the prize money
I just finished exes 2.... Its a good 1.
Shout out to Tyler.... I saw his wins, great competitor
Exes and Rivals are like my two favorite series the Challenge has done. Really top tier. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Watching the past seasons,the greatest move was when Ashley decided to KEEP THE MONEY(she was given a choice,that's not stealing)and not share any with hunter. At first I thought it was a dirty move until they showed the replays of how he treated her throughout that season but hunter always argued with a girl or tried to defend cory or nelson when they clearly put themselves in a situation to get sent home. I never liked him since he was a rookie
It definitely worked out the best way possible for Jordan and Tori to turncoat. They did really well on the UK side vs the US side where their athleticism wasn’t really valued.
Jordan and Tori kept getting sent in but it worked out for them in the long run. Tori had to deal with Jenny while Jordan got Josh which was the best thing for him. It was ultimately the smartest move they could do that season. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Tony sending Bananas into elimination against Devon in Vendettas even though he didn’t win hands down smartest move it was the perfect storm to catch Bananas off his game right before a Final with only one Winner I’ll be the first person to give Zach and Cara Maria all the credit I can I’m sure if they beat Bananas in an individual Final
Bananas could have his own video on all of his smart moves
For sure. You don't get 7 wins unless you are smart. I just wanted to diversify the video with other smart moves. I am looking into making a Bananas documentary which will lay out his journey, Challenge career and smart moves. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Frank was mtv gold
Johnny taking the money from Sarah.
Wes play smart on rooks but bananas catch on
Ill say Wes from War of the Worlds. Imo his best gameplay ever, he just ran into a Turbo in the finals. If Cara solves the puzzle he at least woulda had 2nd, I believe he was in the most tribunals that season also.
I agree, Wes did well in his comeback from a hiatus but I also felt like the heavy lifting was done during the offseason and I wanted to keep the moves from what happened on The Challenge. But I agree, he killed the season and came in third only to Turbo (Turkish god) and Theo (an Olympic athlete). Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
There’s no way Wes didn’t make a deal with Bananas to give him the win with a monetary kickback. His elimination performance was str8 trash
How about Battle of the Sexes (Season 6) when the guys used the females puzzle to complete theirs and win.
That was smart. For sure a good one that I didn't mention. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I don’t think Frank could have been effective with his rookie strategy if the cast of battle of the seasons wasn’t already majority rookies. The only thing I can really give him with that is that Wes didn’t think of it first lol
Also, unpopular opinion…Wes’ political game > bananas’ political game.
I can see where you are coming from, but we've seen rookies in seasons but seldom do they come together to really try to take out the vets. I felt everyone was enamored by Frank and he knew if they could take out the vets, his team would be unrivaled all the way to the finals. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Yo big brother felt like it might be good this year. Hope you decide to cover it : )
I'm sorry Angel, but that Dario move was one of the stupidest moves I've seen in challenge history. And I can't believe you put it in a smart move video big dog smh 💯
Can we put down Kam entire Challenge career please.
wdym ?
@@lawtraf8008 Any season Kam is on, she has reinvented her playstyle and continued to grow. Though she has never won a challenge, she has the greatest potential to become a champ.
@@Ahzula01 Thank God, I thought you were a Kam hater LMAO 😂😂 and I wanted it some clarifications. I love Kam, she's my favorite. I'm arguing with so many idiots here who are insulting and disrespecting Kam.
@@lawtraf8008 I would never disrespect the Queen.
@@Ahzula01 Kam is queen and I would put her whole career here but I wanted to show off other smart moves. I will make her own video though when I do the full research. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
ashley cause she won the most money and then mark cause he won money all the time and then frank for winning with his team.
Wes would of won exes 2 if bananas didn't come back
If anyone was smart they should have been taking Johnny Crybaby Bananas out early in the game not letting him sit back and make it to the finals every season
Dude I heard that the challenge might come back in August.
I mean they finished the szn. They needa start pushing two a year and not one, kinda what they doing.
Hopefully the episode length and amount is shorter than DA, seeing how most the contestants cant do even do an unscripted confessional anymore.
Nelson had the best move hands down
Killa Kam!!
What if Wes won the elimination then Wes would of won season 35
I agree, but he was premature volunteering. He was worried that the finals were close when they still had like awhile before that time. He had enough time and probably would've won another spot in the tribunal to send himself in later in the season. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
anybody know where to watch seasons 34 and 35? For some reason it’s not on paramount plus or hulu.. and netflix only has old seasons
I can't find S34 but S35 is still on MTV.com. If you have a cable provider or sign up for the 24 hour pass you can watch Total Madness. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Kam’s smart move wasn’t all that good when it resulted in the eventual winners coming in the game . You shouldn’t have to make ” big “ moves to take out weaker players
The move by itself was genius and great strategy. It was just wasted. The way everybody burned votes it still would’ve worked just the same had she turned the gun on say Brad/Kyle or even Bananas/Tony
She made that move to protect the vets. She was thinking long term so the vets would have her back in the game. If there is one player that isn't afraid of anyone, it's Kam.
So did they split the money or give the kick back?
Mark got paid. Battle of the Sexes 2 the guys gave him a kickback at the reunion and Duel 2 they pooled their money in and split it evenly. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I think anybody taking all the money is such a jacked up thing to do because at the end of the day , they still needed that person to win. If they as a team had did worst then, they'd at least get the 2nd and 3rd place prizes which is more than zero...
But in this situation specifically , I think they both were awful to each other. They showed those situations to try and justify it , but didn't show the stuff that she did also.
At the end of the day, I say split the money and let karma handle that person. But that's just me...
Mark takes dives to ensure money and has done it in multiple seasons. In sports that's called rigging/fixing and cheating. That's not a smart move that's spineless
Should be banned
Wait so if you win first place you get to play in all future challenge seasons? I’ve never heard this can someone explain?
That is not always the case. If you win you have a good shot of being asked back. But not always. I'm sorry if something in the video lead to some miscommunication. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I’d like to see a table talk about challengers working smarter not harder and winning a daily or elimination
This is a great video suggestion. I'll take a look into some research and see what I can come up with. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Wow so Zach actually won a challenge?
Even as a Bananas fan, i feel bad for Wes on Exes 2 lol. He cooked 😂😂😂
Wes was having a hell of a season and in a blink of an eye he was in a Hall Brawl against Leroy with little to no chance to make it farther. It was a shame lol Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I'm not on board with the side deals like Mark's where the money is pooled and split etc. I feel it goes against the essence of the game and isn't as fun for the audience to watch a rigged competition with no real urgency or heart.
I agree, I am not a fan of this idea. But I'm looking at Mark's perspective as it's smart for him to get paid when everyone else could've just said no and the same outcome would've happened. I wouldn't take the deal but somehow everyone that Mark spoke to did. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
I wish Frank would come back
Are you going to be doing Big Brother episodes?
Idk. I am still on the fence about whether I want to cover BB this season. I am still feeling like I was burned from last season. And I feel I am getting in a good rhythm after I took the week off from being burned out to where I don't want to overload my schedule. But we'll see. I will watch Wednesday's episode and see how I feel. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
The only reason San Diego won in BOTS was because Devon was on Team Brooklyn. If it was just Sarah and Chet or JD and Sarah Brooklyn would've one. I was rooting for them all the way. Usually I root for the rookies because the vets always won but Frank and Zach are trash human beings.
I legit can't stand Frank and Zach. I mean BOTS (2012) is one of the toughest seasons to watch because of how disgusting it is and how much bullying there was. So many low blows and just toxic masculinity during the season. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
135 As much as I respect and value your opinion, From my perspective Cam wasn't making a flex move, instead she was showing the world how grimmy she was, a total phony lying and betraying those who respected and trusted her.
Think of future seasons were Kam played a scared game, hiding behind Caria Maria and Paulie both of whom manipulated everyone they could, threatened others with their numbers and failed everyone by Paulies poor performance.
Kam claimed she and Leroy were a power couple, but neither had ever won a final!
You're clearly a kam hater LMAO. She made a move. Tell me one person trustworthy there lol. Banana, CT, Wes, Kyle, Cara Maria and many others have done 10 times worse and are way more sneaky than Kam but you do not care .
Also The fact that both of them never won a final don't mean they aren't ones of the strongest. CT who's a legend of the challenge didn't win till his 10th season lol. Kam in 5 seasons made it to 3 finals and her elimination record is one of the best ever, she's a beast. CT himself even recognized it last season and regretted so much not choosing her instead of Ashley in the beginning.
People are always scared to go to eliminations against her because she proved to be one of the best. In last season, we saw it again when she was sent it by Theresa and Jay against Ashley millionaire. Theresa said herself that knowing that Ashley is one of the best, she had to send a stronger person who can take her out and Kam showed why she's called Killa Kam. I always remember that elimination because of Jay shocked face and comments. While talking to Theresa he said " 10 wins, 1 loss, that's how good she is, she's a beast" and Theresa just look at him and nodded saying " I know" .
In the others seasons after Final reckoning, she didn't play a scared game, she started having many friends so she was always in the team with the numbers. Everybody in the challenge want to have the numbers to be comfortable, they all do. If having the numbers is playing a scared game then all of them have played a scared game at least once, even the big players like CT, Wes or Banana.
You're such a hater and that's pathetic. If you do not like her that's fine but do not try to lie or say she's not one of the strongest and smartest competitors of The challenge. I have many people that I do not like like Wes, Cara Maria and others but I'm not going to deny the fact that they are ones of the strongest, that's a fact. Try to be better.
Leroy isn't a manipulative liar like Kam keeps proving that she is.
Kam followed behind Cara Maria and Paulie because Kam was playing a scared game, just relying on numbers not her own skill set.
Kam maybe good physically at challenges but she is a liar and manipulative which if she is such a beast she doesn't need to play a scared game...
@@ellej3112 I’d give you WOtW2 she did hide in the alliance but other than that she always stands on her own feet and played her own game. And what had she lied about? I hope you aren’t referring to Leroy’s agreement with Kyle last season
It sucks that they aren’t more athletic competitive LGBTQ+ males MTV can find to do challenges on the show but Frank was extremely disgusting on BotS-2012 to Sam so I don’t blame them for not bringing him back plus even Frank knew how toxic he was becoming so he got out of it. Tyler became great though he was a mega bust on his first 2 challenges.
To be fair Ashley is a toxic human being herself and MTV pushes her as the preeminent star female advocate on the network.
1. Caught body-shamimg Jamie on Rivals 3
2. Instigating a fight between Turbo & Jordan on WotW 2
3. “Allegedly” spitting on Bear on Total Madness
Frank definitely knew how to play the game but he was very toxic and taking low blows to hurt everyone on a personal level was disgraceful. I really liked Tyler. Winning two seasons in a row is really impressive. Thank you for watching and commenting! I really appreciate it!
Kam did all of that to throw in rookies...whack. not a great move. shouldve saved it for later and got rid of an actual good team. overrated moment
You have no idea what what you're talking about. Getting rid of the rookies to protect the vets is was the purpose of her move. That was so she could be protected by the vets in the long run. Having the vets as your friends and not as enemies is as the best thing.
Honestly would rather not have Mark come back. I don't want to see people who throw challenges, and make deals to let other people win as long as they get a cut of the prize money. Not saying it wasn't smart, but just so boring and underwhelming.
Kam's "Smart Move" to send in Rookies is on this list? For shame Drew. lol.
It had most of the house fooled and in a panic that basically swayed votes in favor of her plan to get rid of a team she didn't like. It wasn't a power move, but it was definitely smart and makes for great TV.
Also, it positioned her in the house as not only a physically strong competitor, but a mentally strong one as well.
@@DonnKnee No, not it all. It just showed that they were willing to openly lie to the whole house and cant be trusted. That play is something you can only do once and doing it early to get rid of a non threat is completely sloppy gameplay.
@@FLBoyCanScrap I would agree, but that's not really how it played out. Kam's reputation and respect only went up from there.
The point of the move was that she could ensure that the team of their choice could go in without having to worry about people throwing votes and the vote going sideways
Keep in mind that 1 episode earlier, basically the entire house said they wanted Angela and Faith in, but then almost everyone burned votes and then Tori & Derrick and Joss & Sylvia went in for no real reason
Plus, she wanted to ensure that she could protect her allies, since the first Elimination Candidate could pick anyone who voted for them. Whereas if they just let the chips fall where they may, then one of their good allies could’ve been picked as the Second Elimination Candidate (assuming there was no Mercenary twist, which Kam & Kayleigh couldn’t predict)
@@DonnKnee No one considered Kam and Kayleigh a threat. Duh. The "rep and respect" is just to build character for the audience not something recognized by the smart players.
If it wasn't for Hunter, Ashley won't even make it to the final. So he deserved ½
Ultimately though it's Ashley's choice to give him half of her money that she won for her performance in the final or not.
It was a great move and super smart. Ashley taking that money guarantees she gets called for years to come to be on the show.
Sucks to Suck
He had years to practice cardio yet he just focused on Upper Body
@@TheKYLEdavid 😭😭😭😭😭
Oh boy, AngelCake another hypocrite lol. Johnny move smarter making it over money than Ashley doing over … threats ?😂😂😂😂 Lmao
Ashley would have taken the money from Hunter even if he would have been nice to her. The threats were just the justification she could use to try to look like the good guy. Dont believe everything a reality tv contestant says
If you think Johnny was Badass for taking the money from Sarah, then I presume you think Ashley was just as Badass for taking the money from Hunter. Ashley wouldn't have made it to the finals without Hunter and Johnny wouldn't have made it to the finals without Sarah.
@Franco Bradshaw Because I mention Ashley taking the money in the video as a smart move but I didn't mention Bananas doesn't mean I find one smart and the other one dumb. I chose to highlight Ashley's decision because that was her Challenge moment that put her on the map and gave her the persona of Ashley "Millionaire" Mitchell. It was her turnkey to Challenge legacy.
At the time Bananas took all the money, he was a 6x Challenge champ. He already had staked his claim as the winningest competitor and him taking all the money was etching his name deeper in the record books, adding another big win in history and enlongating his legacy. Also he gave the reasons that he didn't know how long he was going to be doing the Challenge after that moment but he then came back for every single season which I feel was his justification along with the Exes 2 betrayal. I think it was smart for his overall legacy.
But Ashley doing it in her 4th season (she quit ep1 of Dirty 30), her second win where whether she quit more or left episode 1 the next three seasons she was guaranteed spots on the Challenge and will be in the top 5 of prize money won for a long time. Also everytime she's on the show that's all people talk about with her. So it gave her the persona she needed to go from good player to icon. Bananas was already and will be at the top spot in Challenge stats for a long long long time. That's why I included Ashley's move in the video.
Ashley was a horrible all season to him as well but Hunter gets the smoke. Make that make sense Angelcake. 🤡