EGR Delete or EGR Cooler?
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- Are you experiencing an EGR cooler failure? Have questions about the difference between an EGR cooler and an EGR delete? Watch this video to learn more about EGR deletes and how they can be more of a problem than a solution. Further information can be found here: bulletproofdiesel.com/pages/e...
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I'll go with deleted every time. Thanks!
I’m planning on doing an hpop delete on the 6.0 I’m going to use in a step van conversion
The hpop powers your injectors. That would make your engine a paperweight.
So yh my EGR coming out first thing tomo
Mine was talking to me as well. Turned out it was asking me to delete it. I did.
Same haha
For what engine??
@@big_W 6.0 Powerstroke
Stop going of topic and get straight to the point!
Much appreciated
I laughed out loud when you said the egr keeps the engine running cleaner. Tell me how exhaust soot running through the engine is cleaner. Lol
He meant cleaner for the exhaust gases going into our air. NOX
He mean exhaust emissions is cleaner with egr system than traditional engine.
I mean who cares if it releases NOX
Democrats who want to control everything
@@thepipewhisperer8357EPA has entered the chat lol
Most professional and technical video I’ve seen so far on the topic thank you for being a class act professional!
Thank you for the kind words!
Engines run cleaner when they aren't trying to reburn exhaust that chokes them out.
Doesnt really choke them out and doesnt really make the engine run non-clean. It's better for the environment and better for the miles per gallon.
You must be one of those "roll coal" types...lol!
@@MrKnockout_ its not better for mpg and diesels burn cleaner then gas engines... they acutally put out more chemicals with all the emissions on it lol. Also having a egr active smooths out the cross hatchs on your liners. Which cuts your engine life in half, with a egr active its like throwing a handful of sand in your intake all the time its a pile of junk.
@@duckymini6609 agreed and it's way worst for mpg's
@@patriciomunoz2830 and cooler is less reliable than delete. Your bound to generate some soot even without a tuner which will plug up the egr cooler
Because l almost don't understand some english fast speaking people, I got your instruction very well. From puertorico thankyou.
The early 2003 6.0L Ford’s have the best EGR Cooler ever made. My HPOP went out in mine just 2 weeks ago. Since they were right there I told them to replace the oil cooler and EGR cooler, with a Bullet Proof EGR cooler. They replaced the oil cooler only. They pulled, cleaned, and inspected my EGR cooler. They found it to be perfectly functional with no issues.
The shop owner told me when I picked it up that they didn’t upgrade the EGR cooler. He told me I had the early 2003 6.0 EGR cooler. That it works better than any aftermarket EGR cooler. He also told me he has never had to replace the EGR cooler on these early engines.
I have a late '04 and did the delete when it was about 10 years old. Engine light never came on 👍. They changed some things on the 6.0 mid '04. Usually it's the other way around when it comes to performance but the later ones are junk
So they made the 6.0 worse as it was produced????? I thought they would make improvements. But all seriousness. I didnt think they could make the 6.0 worse cause its junk
tractorboy31 I’ve never had any major issues with mine. But I also use only synthetic Amsoil product and I don’t follow the 7,500 mile oil change interval’s either. When I replaced my oil cooler it wasn’t loaded with corrosion either. Just had it changed because they were right there and it was 15 years old. Coolant and oil filtration systems will save any motor. Especially a 6.0 because of the small tolerances. That being said I used to be a diesel mechanic. These motors will run for ever as long as you take care of them. But parts will fail. Engine wise I’ve only had to replace the turbo, intercooler, HPOP, glow plug warmer, ICP sensor, and batteries. In a 15 year old Excursion. The oil cooler was just buy choice.
So if you know what you have with a 6.0 and know how to take care of it. It should last you a good while.
I still have the original injectors in my truck because I use a fuel additive that is designed specifically for these Ford injectors.
All diesels no matter who makes them have some issues. Duramax, Cummins, and Ford.
@@michaelbutcher6432 the 6.0 is a good engine. I bulletproofed the heads a few months ago (got 180k on the factory!) and it still has the factory finish on it. These engines will run 500k, maybe more, if taken care of like you said. They just have some quirks that we all know about. I'm not a diesel mechanic so I appreciate the fact it's simple enough that I can work on it unlike the new generation of diesels with all the electrical crap and that you don't have to pull the cab. I wouldn't be surprised if these motors are sought after in the coming years much like the 7.3
Michael Butcher What fuel additive do you use?
Fuck EGR cooler. My first truck Brand new Cascadia 2011 . I almost bankrupt. My second truck dd15 2015 Brand new ..I delete on the first day after I got it from the dealer..Fuck throught all the warranty . I m now over million miles and still run smooth and survive with no any other issued
Yep !! Nice work
I’ve considered putting two egr coolers in, that way the flow is reduced and thus the heat, while the cooling capacity remains the level used with the full flow
a car i once owned had a egr failure. in broken mode the motor passed smog check with flying colors.
with a new egr valve it had to be "forced" to pass. only problem with the egr valve was a visual. (diaphragm was broken).
Thank you!
craziest shit i've ever heard. someone telling you how good egr is for you and your diesel... my ass.
If peoples are stupid enough to believe that shit … f them 😆
Did a welded plug style delete preemptively on my '06 over 5 years 75000km ago.
No problems whatsoever.
Hi, what did you do about the egr valve?
@@swashington942 it is there and operates normally but has no exhaust gas going to it.
@@kellyh4035 do you get a CEL? I made the mistake of updating my tuner, and I don’t have the option to turn the egr off. I was wondering if plugging in a valve will clear the codes.
@@jorgecortez-fx6pb I just deal with the code
Guy says the smart choice is the one I sell that is like $1k vs the less than $100 option. not to mention if he ever had the intake apart on a vehicle with egr after 100k miles he would know why its a bad idea to recirculate the exhaust.
He's just trying to sell their EGR cooler. Glad I live in TX and kept my 6.0 with the stupid EPA crap like EGR removed.
I have a LLY Duramax with170,000 and I dont want that shit going back through my intake during a FPR replacement I found out some of the intake was closed up with only a 1/4 inch opening so no on coolers
There is absolutly no way. That the regen process is better for the atmosphere. Than letting the sut just sit in exhaust. In a solid state.
Buring that shit up. Using more deisel to do so. Is by itself. Dumb as hell
Like the video. Like to have more in depth of what efect have EGR Delete
No soot buildup on intake
Made a large investment on the BPD HD Air Cooled Oil Cooler system, EGR Cooler, FICM, Professional Package and Head stud upgrades available at BPD. Am convinced it was a wise investment. My 6.0 is running well, and my once lost confidence in my F350 is surely gaining back.
Would love to hear an update if you still own the truck.
You’re a idiot keeping the egr
I bought it and deleted the egr
I have a 2015 Subaru WRX. The new Subaru's use a new engine (FA20 DIT) that collects a lot of carbon into the engine. I would have to add Lucas Ignition cleaner when I fuel up at the petrol station. I added an EGR delete, along with a TGV delete, to keep the engine breathing better and keeping it cooler. Not to mention, with the EGR delete, I'm eliminating the carbon build up in the engine.
Subaru's have diesel engines?!
George Austers lol yes
Lance Tardiff ?
They do not sell a delete because they are all about smog compliance. So they have a biased opinion.. In my opinion.. I am going to have mine removed and modified so that it is deleted.
I guess they know what they are talking about......but my vehicle will be deleted.
I feel like this is a video made to cover there ass from all the people illegally deleting there egr, which I don't blend them. That or to make more money selling there expensive ass coolers.
Probably..
Can you bullet proof the EGR in a 2019 Nissan titan XD with the 5.0 Diesel ?
Water comes from oil drain plug after engine rebuild why?
Idk if its the same type or anything but on one video for a Dmax EGR he removed had so much Carbon buildup on it and he explained how that cap cycles back into the truck unless you remove it. Is it the same with Ford EGRs?
Exhaust gas is routed to the combustion chamber, but carbon buildup generally hasn't been a problem on Fords - we hear that some Ram/Cummins have had those issues within the EGR cooler itself (carbon buildup). We're happy to report that we now produce BulletProof EGR coolers for selected versions of the 6.7 Cummins and the 6.6L Duramax, and our H-Core's helical tube structure resists both rupture and clogging. Simply put, these EGR coolers actually work well.
@@BulletProofDiesel thank you sir
You failed to mention the thousands of dollars to replace the particulate filter and other components also the time out of work to wait to get truck out of the shop
Buying exhaust parts which are expensive and useless for the performance and economy of the owner/consumer is the reason why the hard working American does not want to spend hard earned money on useless emission systems.
Exactly!
If you do an egr delete on 2003 6.0, Do you have to put the actual egr back in the in take manifold?
no. use the block off plate and go on your way.
u said it yourself could be clogged with soot. delete egr and no soot from exhaust goes into your engine. could be clogged from a dirty tune but not always the case
Deleted 6.0’s get 5mpg more on average. Have you seen diesel prices today?? 3/10/22 5.29 gal and climbing.
Haha nope bullshit ..
downhill in neutral maybe ur getting
5 more miles per gal
With deleted EGR I went to yearly inspection center and had very good result, soo..... DELETE!
What and keep dumping exhaust into your intake that’s like my doctor telling me to run a hose from my butt to my mouth I don’t think so
Haha ! Exactly
That'll be next! Haha
Question, will an egr delete make the function of the egr cooler useless? I am thinking about doing an egr delete on a maxxforce n13 engine to prevent egr cooler leakage of coolant or failure. Am i saying this right?
Yes, if you do an egr delete you might as well remove the egr cooler as well because it won't be doing anything, and it will prevent the cooler from splitting and leaking out all your coolant
Greetings from Deer Valley.
Where is bill?
Anyone has some advice for me? Golf 4 alh 1.9 tdi
My 6.0 went thru 2 egr cooler and it has 110k miles
I wonder if they fired those 6.0 engineer.
How do you know if the egr cooler is bad on my 06 f250 i just had alot of work done to it when i picked it up it is leaking water out exhaust no water in oil no oil in water no miss a little lose of power what do ypu think
Typical symptoms of EGR cooler failure are, white smoke/steam out of the exhaust pipe, coolant leaking out of the exhaust and/or mysterious coolant loss from the degas bottle. This is a very serious issues and can cause other more serious engine damage. You will want to return to the service shop immediately.
Once you delete the egr how do undelete and restore back factory?
You can use something like this: bulletproofdiesel.com/collections/all/products/bulletproof-egr-undelete-kit-ford-6-0l-diesel-h-core-square-egr-cooler-1
I got the bullet EGR cooler. I like it. But it still boils the coolant
The purpose of the bullet EGR cooler is to provide larger passages to prevent cracks in the cooler(leaking coolant), reduce carbon build up, and provide better egr cooler flow. Boiling the coolant is irrelevant.
Putting dirty exhaust gases back into the intake is just about the worst thing for your engine. The air intake and valves get gummed up, air flow is reduced over time, and your coolant runs hotter because it’s cooling exhaust gas.
In Ontario Canada, we have emission testing after each bowel movement...(meaning too often), will a 6.0 pass an Etest with the EGR delete?
There are different kinds of deletes, and we don't manufacture them, so it's tough to say. Our EGR coolers have a lifetime warranty because they work well, so there's no need to delete.
Doesnt matter anymore!
Ive heard though the grape vine deleted had cleaner exhaust. Go fiquire
Is like running a marathon but having a cigarette before the run.
Only way to make it effective with EGR valve, do high mileage and change oil more than regular.
If you use it to just pop around the corner to work or pick Kids up only you will suffer with the EGR.
Buying theirs is like smoking a fancy cigar....still bad
Am a EGR DELETE guy
Am sorry but who's worked on a 100k diesel engine. Omg the BLACK BLACK gooey stuff.
EPA Federal admission laws only apply if you have a contract with them
People will not delete EGR if you make them cheaper
Oh wait they are in calls that’s why they are say to not delete the egr
So how do you keep the soot from entering the combustion chamber, how do you keep the after market cooker from clogging, and how do you keep Soot build up from clogging up your intake?
you do an EGR delete lmao
Delete and let ur lungs take care of the pollutants instead....www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11417675/
blanking plate
Stupid ass progressives lol
Kiwini Turne
It’s a shame for someone to believe a white smoke behind my truck is a better way to go during regen. People pull over not to smell it. Sad
One of the main reasons why the diesel engine blows white smoke out of the tailpipe is a bad injector, causing too much fuel to be injected into the combustion chamber. A clogged fuel filter, resulting in an unbalanced air/fuel ratio mix inside the combustion chamber, travels through the hot exhaust causing white smoke from the tailpipe, this will also cause misfires and a lack of power.A blown head gasket, transmission fluid leak through a damaged diaphragm. damaged valve stem seals or piston rings can leak oil into the combustion chamber.
Do your research before blaming white smoke from the exhaust on EGR delete.
is that possible to delete the egr valve and use blowoff valve instead of egr valve in diesel engine
The EGR valve is part of the emission control system and cannot be removed or deleted.
@@BulletProofDiesel hai iam from india and i got a mahindra bolero with 2.5 ltr cdri engine and i want to insatall a blow off valve in it (big fan of suututututu sound ) is it possible to install
478k on all stock 6.4 just change fluids and filters....
I think I just found out what the problems are with my car. Wish me luck
Best of luck, and don't hesitate to call us for help! 888-967-6653
Deleting mine tomorrow
Hey I just bought one of these trucks, what do you have to do to delete it if that’s the best possible way of maintaining the truck
@@nataliasenecal3616 there are tons of videos on it. How do you k ow nothing of this engine and own one?
If you aren't able to rewrite the ECU code regarding the EGR/TGVs do not remove/block/alter them. You can do major, permanent damage to the engine at worst or just have the car go into and stay in limp mode until you put everything back in its original state and reset the ecu. If you're looking for cheap horsepower: E85
E85 in a diesel?!? Lmao. How long did that run before blowing its top?
@@yamahakid450f Lol! I fast forwarded past the beginning, and somehow blanked on this being a diesel engine. You re quite right!
@@warpdrivebyyou’re stupid
Very Good!...
Yes running spot through the clean air back into a perfectly clean fuel air mix will make a much cleaner combustion incresting milage and horse power and longevity of your engine. 😅😂😂😂😂😂. If early catistrofic engine failure is what you dissier.😅😂😂😂😂😅😅
Too bad there is still the dreaded 401 that you still have to deal with.
mini maxx will turn that off right away after an EGR delete from what i hear
So no real CON to a EGR Delete. If you have your stock EGR cooler welded, there is no way to tell if its deleted. I have the external Oil cooler from you guys which is a good product, but the welded EGR cooler is the way to go. My 6.0 runs smoother, cooler and has more power.
Riverratsd I agree welded egr is the way to go and an oil cooler relocation kit
So what the egr is welded blocked of internally
@@tractorboy31 no, they just weld shut the inside of the tube so no air can flow through it. Welds have nothing to do with mounting
Egr delete am getting it.
Cars don't use egr valve no more. WHY coz they are not in the Triangle of combustion 😂😂😂 Blue Tec I would use but can only buy the nicotine smoking machines for now.
Or we can the epa from touching diesels because they’re causing more damage for peoples trucks
I have a bulletproof diesel egr cooler that is welded lol
my favorite part is when he says "cost effective" LOL as of this post, the BPD egr cooler for my 03 6.0 is $460 with a $100 core charge and ONLY comes with the cooler, while i can get a Standard motor products cooler that comes with all hardware AND gaskets from Rock Auto for $230.79 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why not pump the exhaust gas forward to the intake AFTER the dpf unit?
Diesel
can someone please answer my question. Is it possible to stop the EGR by just removing the vacuum line that is attached to the EGR valve? or would this have any potential damage in the long run?
Slengo Slengaw nope
No you'd get hella codes
"My wife's watching 👀" (the feds)
Keeping my rusted, but mechanical sound 1990 Dodge B block, just saying.
Not hating on that at all.. B blocks are killer.. so much so, that we designed an equally killer water pump to go with it. Check it out here: bulletproofdiesel.com/collections/all/products/cummins-water-pump-5-9-6-7
So just replace one bad component with another one that will fail. Waste of money
Our EGR coolers don't fail in most cases. You can install them and forget about them. That's why we offer a lifetime warranty.
Seen a 2010 f350 with 46k miles for 21k, what's the problem?
6.0 ...ouch.
Igor Sanchez the 6.0 was from 2003-2007. That would be a 6.4
SonofaLeach 6.4 is the problem
gene Neal aged fast.
Its funny my machanic can hear the sound of a truck with egr delete night and day man
Gosh if I ran a 6.0 litre in the uk 🇬🇧 I’d need a mortgage, here now it’s £1.79 sterling a litre. I run a Vw passat and that cost me £130 to fill it. My EGR has a problem so is going in on Thursday for a delete and a remap from 140bhp upto 180 bhp
Just bought a used diesel. DEF injector failed. $2300
Thanks Obama
Lol. I run a 7.3. Just blew my tranny but the engine is good and will get it back on the road shortly
Cheap ford engineering is to blame for that one. Go over to Beijing and learn what unregulated emissions does to the air you breath.
do a full delete, cost a little less than fixing your def and your motor will last as a result.
Or blame Big oil for not cleaning up their fuel rather than passing it on to the engine makers to whom are also in on the "passing the costs" to the consumer to push sales as the old equipment slowed sales due to reliability!
He's the worst President of my lifetime by far. That potato currently in the White House is doing his best to catch up to him though.
Cost effective? Sure…
Not trying to be the advocate for a delete or anything... Just curious: has anyone here received a fine for deleting their powerstroke or other emissions equipped diesel?
Personally I'd rather not do something that is illegal like this.
From what we understand fines are possible and have happened in the industry. This is a great article.
vanblacklaw.com/environmental/epa-ramps-up-enforcement-against-engine-emissions-tampering/
This TH-camr: "Don't do drugs guy's, mkaeaj?"
Me & You: 🤪😳
I’ll worry about the environment when politicians quit using private jets!
It’s crazy how many people on here are not properly educated about EGR. Exhaust gas is INERT which means it’s not reactive! So in the combustion chamber it basically takes up space, causing less reaction and LOWER combustion chamber temps! You are not choking on exhaust, deleting EGR RAISES your combustion temps. Put a proper cooler on!
That's part of why so many people end up deleting their engine instead of upgrading their EGR cooler.
It is never better to choke your truck on its exhaust
Your not educated on the EGR properly. Somehow your about half right but then your solution is ignorance. Yes exhaust causes carbon, soot buildup in a few places and can ruin an engine. It’s never smart to recycle exhaust into an engine. It’s dirty, it’s not 100% oxygen and it causes lower temps in the chamber. This is bad because it’s exactly how soot builds up and clogs things up. Smh. You want higher temps it’s better for the engine and soot won’t buildup. Our atmosphere is vast enough to not be affected by nox. The egr was just another way to ruin engines and cause people to spend more money.
@@raingreen1103 I think you need to educate yourself a bit more on egr, I think you have a online chat room understanding of how egr works
Have you ever pulled the head on an EGR system?! There's enough "inert" soot to change the engine displacement!
egr delete is illegal, btw.
My thinking is the EGR system clogs because often people aren't using their diesel vehicles correctly. Diesel engines are made for high mileage and mid to heavy loads - if they are used too often in short travel (many times before the engine gets to proper working temp, which is the other reason the EGR is there - to help engine warm up and reduce wear) they will generate too much soot. When it is used properly it does not build up excessive gunk in less than 30k miles, and helps engine run leaner.
Edit - in some cases the PCV system is as bad as the EGR for creating soot. Worth having a catch can.
Shut the F up dude
You work for the EPA or something? Because that was one dumb theory... Guess what?? Pre egr diesels had ZERO issues running for whatever duration! EGR DPF DEF is the issue Moron!
😅😂😂😂😂
Delete that shit lmao
Sounds like a typical government standard explanation
This is my third ford and oh boy, they are all must of had bad coolants. ... egr, than injectors and than turbos.. I came to realize why people love ford's for - OWNESTY that's right, they always circle the problem....
*then
pulling the body on the ford 6.0l 😂😂😂 y’all gotta do it to change the oil too, right?😂👍
barton poore gotta do it on chevys too...
What a lie from this ball guy
Egr destroy engine all that crap build up like 1/4 inch
Nah, just delete it all.
This guy is just trying to sell his egr coolers
F the epa i want to roll coal
It's a diesel...leave it the fuck alone and fuck with the egr emissions bullshit. They don't burn like gas engines
Diesel engines suck. Too many secondary systems .
Gas motors don’t pull for shit
And no motor breaking on heavy loads 🤔
Get an older diesel
Or gas motor. Anything other then
The bullshit everyone’s putting out these days