WOKE CULTURE MADE ME HAVE TO SHARE A BATHROOM WITH OTHER PEOPLE OF MY GENDER!!! (I am scared because they could be trans and I can’t stop thinking about what’s in other people’s pants)
WELL I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I HAVE TO WORK WITH THE SNOWFLAKE GAYS AND BLACKS NOW, CANT EVEN MAKE AN INNOCENT 13/50 JOKE WITHOUT SOME WOKEY GETING OFFENDED😡😡😡
My boyfriends Cristian conservative father actually voted Democrat in the midterms cus he was tired of all the culture war shit and he wanted a higher minumum wage
@@BleedForTheWorld They are, most likely, not. Considering they subscribe to channels like Tim Pool, Matt Walsh, Actual Justice Warrior, etc. At least they are helping by boosting this channel.
I think Americans are just in general getting sick of culture wars. Which is really bad for republicans, because that means they might actually have to turn to trying to be elected on policy.
The only default answer they also have is "the economy is bad because of Biden". They have absolutely nothing to say specifically on that nor about any topics such as education and healthcare unless it relates to a culture war issue
They're forced into a losing battle because they *have* to blame "wokeness" on everything in this stage of their theatrics. They abandoned everything else because of some rainbows and women...!
No, it is not a stupid happenstance. This is a concerted effort to deflect attention. NEVER mistake the malicious efforts of conservatives for stupidity. They ARE NOT stupid: they're evil, and trying to create a new target for hate.
In Australia our right leaning major party is getting slapped hard by voters because most newer voters are progressive and don't want to destroy the planet.
Good on you for assessing how well their professed priorities reflected your own, and acting on that. It’s often easier for us all to defer to our current beliefs/biases/environment. Good on ya. I try to stay open to new information and reflect on my options but it can be so easy to overlook how entrenched we can be in certain identities/ideas.
Spent my late teens and early 20's somewhat "conservative". Mid 20's I just kinda woke up and realized it didn't make any sense at all. Mid 30's now, and I drift further left every year. Glad you too could reassess your values.
This actually makes me so happy that right-wing voters are unironically waking up. We need to guide these poor souls to a better party. Now's the time to show them empathy from the left
I would. I wouldn’t say that they are gonna flip, but it might let up on the gas of extremism. I wouldn’t mind a GOP that wasn’t genocidal, even if their stance on Free Markets makes me groan
You do realise this "waking up" of the voters is something that could affect both sides negatively right? Let's not forget that whole "why I left the left" trend of videos lately springing up
That's nice and all but the Democrats are do nothing and they are still useless. If Biden was five times as good, propagandists would have a hard time trying to stick anything on him after a while.
The good things happening are because gen Z has come of age. I've been looking forward to this. I've known it was coming. This boomer thinks zoomers are great.
Money is the most consistent predictor of political views, even more reliable than race or religion. Once gen Z gets old enough to start getting rich they'll shift to be more conservative. The same thing happened to Gen X and millenials.
@@dadbodenvy4247 i think us gen z ers missed the mark with the whole “getting richer when becoming older” shit. That would fly 80 years ago but weve been so royally fucked by the system that there is barely any future left for us. Also do you honestly believe that most young people will escape poverty purely because they grow older? Because if thats the fact than youre not even worthy of participating in this convo
@@dadbodenvy4247 Not quite true. Money drives you to the right on economic issues, sure, but it doesn't really affect your cultural issues. Like landing a cushy job isn't gonna make you homophobic, all of a sudden. And the trend culturally has been sharply leftwards. I remember in my childhood homophobia was normalized. Nowadays, even the republicans aren't outwardly homophobic most of the time. The recent attacks on trans people is a last desperate attack on the last social minority they can attack before it too becomes normalized. And it's happening, too. Remember the fox news story that covered a child's transition in a positive light? Remember the polls showing that a good chunk, over a third of republicans support childhood transition? It's a battle they're bound to lose.
@@dadbodenvy4247 Yeah, that makes sense. If only they were paid a livable wage at base, and had lots of opportunities to buy homes, settle down, and oh wait... Current conservatives don't like that. Kinda hard to make new "keep stuff as is" people when everyone is barely scraping by and does NOT have a relaxing, rich life.
My only concern is that when conservative republican voters say "talk about it less", they very well likely mean "I don't want this woke BLM trans-agenda crap forced in my face", not simply "please focus on more important socioeconomic issues". That, along with believing that minorities/underprivileged groups don't need any more focus because there's nothing to worry about, they are no longer discriminated against, because Bud Light put a rainbow on their cans.
Either way, Republican Politicians take a hit as their goal is to start a Genocide. Hard to do a Genocide when your voters don't care about giving you the power to do so.
Yeah I’m not entirely convinced by Vaush’s take away from this poll. I remember when Kyle Kulinski did an entire segment on his show about a study saying more and more republicans are upset by the direction America is taking and he interpreted that as conservatives becoming class conscious. This was right before Jan 6 mind you.
This reminds me of when Vaush reviewed the cope stream after the midterms. A prevalent point in that stream was that they constantly talked about wielding power against their opponents, and not a one mentioned helping their voters.
I don't remember who it was, but one of these right-wing pundits referred to Biden promising to pass policies that would help black people as "bribing black people for their vote" - as though it's not meant to be politicians' jobs to pass policies that make the people's lives better.
turns out that maybe building your entire political platform as a glorified 2016 gamer-gate anti-sjw youtuber may end up being just as relevant in a couple of years and tire people out as they wish to focus in other stuff beyond constant panicking and bitching over harmless stuff
Ive noticed this. 2 ex coworkers texted me right when the trans rhetoric went to "we do not want ANY trans people." and asked how I knew it would ramp up lol. They just wanted it away from kids. There is no logical leap to "stop all trans healthcare" from childhood protection when the reasoning is "protecting the kids." Another huge misstep. They also hate the books disappearing from schools and dont like propagandizing American history. Both of them average center right conservatives. Not bad people just disinfranchised middle class men. So that gave me hope.
You're giving them too much credit. Their lack of competence limits how evil they're allowed to be, not the other way around. Stupidity isn't their flaw, it's their saving grace.
@@peopleofearth6250 This is somewhat true for the parties, yes, but not for individuals. And individuals are the things that vote, and a party is only as strong as it's support base. Even if a party is vehemently anti-democratic, they still need people to actually support them in the sense of "abiding by and carrying out their despot's orders"; it's the difference between fascism being the social order in NSDAP Germany, and Mosley's "British Union of Fascists" having to fight for table scraps of legitimacy, only ever hoping to be seen as anything more than agitators by the public at large. Which, in turn, brings out that "somewhat true" also means "largely untrue": Their incompetence gives the GOP an unlimited amount of evil they can ATTEMPT, but it never puts on the actual amount of evil they can actually get away with while still having any credible amount of support/power. And this is the threshold we're reaching - where lots of people who were formerly on board with the GOP and thus contributing to their overall effectiveness are deciding they've gone a bridge too far.
@@peopleofearth6250 For the party, stupidity is the saving grace. For the people, stupidity maximizes the harm they can do despite their best intentions.
Just out of curiosity, did you tell them about the history of the LGBT community with slogans like "save our kids"? It's really interesting and it should be taught in schools A good place to start is the AIDS crisis and Anita Bryant who was one of the leading "save our kids" advocates. There was a very successful boycott of orange juice because she was the spokesperson at the time
Perhaps the positive side of the "banality of evil" is that they're just as susceptible to human error. They jumped the gun on the hate train too early, and its going to bite them in the ass. Or at least thats what we're hoping for
I don't think the problem is that they jumped on the hate train too early as much as it is that they overstayed their welcome and the train is running out of coal. they're losing relevance because, as someone else in the comment section pointed out, "they built their entire political platform as a glorified gamer-gate anti-sjw youtuber", and believe it or not, it's been about 7 years since 2016
The disparity between the working class and the people they work for has only been increasing. People will only lean on hating eachother for so long until they realize who put us in these positions.
unless theyre given false consciousness thru propaganda & end up believing that jewish people run a kabbal to keep them down. i wish we could trust that eventually ppl would wake up, so to speak, but with ppl like carlson & west & all the covert nazis in right-wing media i wouldnt say we can sit back & let things play out
I agree with Vaush's take. There is a lot of political science literature that suggests that American politics is largely defined by a "cultural cleavage." In essence, cultural issues mobilize voting bases in modern American politics. The data Vaush presents suggests that the GOP's go-to "woke" talking point is waning with its base. However, the GOP is good at jumping on whatever new right-wing moral outrage pops up, so this could quite easily change. Overall, each subsequent generation is more culturally progressive than the last, which spells bad news for the GOP in the long run.
This is true, but I feel like they already *have*, they've just become obsessed with shoving it under the "woke" umbrella for some reason. As Vaush pointed out, "woke" was originally a BLM thing. Then the trend because homophobia, so they added gays to "woke". Then trans people, etc etc. If anything, the issue is they've began making it less obvious when they're trend jumping. GOP voters historically liked it when the GOP would stay on-top of the "current issue", and now - even though they are - the fact that all of their new positions are just being made addendums to the "anti-woke agenda" makes it really hard to see such.
I mean the "woke" thing is so amorphous that it has very little meaning, and the trans scapegoat is such a niche talking point that it doesn't land well. Historically, conservatives pushed the idea of inclusion affecting personal rights, even with the bathroom talking points, but now they're attacking individual rights from a collective perspective. Another thing is that technology has changed a lot over the last 10-15 years, particularly the function of social media, so propaganda is being pushed constantly and changes rapidly. Where as in the past, the party would release a few talking points within msm and stick to it causing political cohesion. But I do think you're right not to underestimate Republicans.
@@lighting7508 not according to statistics I've seen, every generation has had a decline in Christian affiliation since religiosity has been tracked. With Gen Z being only 38% Christian as opposed to 42% of millennials. After 2016 a whopping 20% decline in Christianity has taken place, not sure if it is directly tied to Trump but most likely the authoritarianism of Evangelicals in general. That said, White Christian Evangelicalism is primarily right-wing, however historically Christianity has been tied to the Civil Rights Movement, particularly through Liberation Theology.
Been saying this for a while now. When you surround yourself in all-consuming hatred, it will eventually consume you as well. I genuinely think america's politics are about to make a major heelturn by the next election
Hopefully my hypothesis won't age poorly but I think the complete lack of anything ambitious and positive the right-wing in this country has to offer will be the end for them. The most 'aspirational' thing you can read into the reactionary right's rhetoric is the Christian eschatological promise of the second coming, which is pretty pathetic if you ask me.
They want the 1950s nuclear family to come back, but that can never happen because they wouldn't want one family member to be able to make a middle class salary while working an average job.
The demographics are against them. Generation Z seems to self-report 1 in 5 as LGBT. As well as just leaning vastly more left. This will become a major issue for them in the next two cycles as Boomers exit the voting pool with increasing rapidity. Really, the GOP has become so reflexively reactionary that they immediately attack anything new, which is what young people are into, which further divides them from this generation. And the right lives in this echo chamber where they think that can't matter. They aren't going to be able to reprogram young people into little fascists.
@@kayakat1869Conservatives really are the unnatural principle. Time moves forward and progresses yet they are trying to keep us backward in one decade of American history and glorify it as if it was something golden. Masters of manipulation and propaganda.
Definitely. The drain the swamp lies, the I’m gunna fund my own campaign I don’t need their corrupt money lies…they wanted to believe that sht so badly. They still want to believe it. My parents voted for Obama twice. They ate up the hope and CHANGE crap. Loved it. Now they are die hard trump cultists that still think he’s draining he swamp and kicking the ass of the elite. They are so disillusioned with government that they want it to all burn down now and they think Trump will burn it down.
That phrase definitely won some supporters but generally people with very little understanding of politics or knowledge of specific politicians... just feels.
@@SigFigNewton waa waa, my tax money might have to go to saving the lives of poor people instead of bombing the middle east, i am so oppressed, guess i need to vote fascist
My dad definitely flipped a switch on this over the last year. Won't do shit to help his hick ass county but he was slightly further in than your average Trump supporter so its nice to see even those people waking up.
At our Easter family get-together today my conservative uncle used the word "woke" about a dozen times. I really wanted to ask him to define it, but I learned a long time ago (or at least since I became a leftist) to not get into politics with extended family on holidays.
Yeah the hilarious thing is that it no longer means anything substantive to conservatives, it is *literally* an empty virtue signal - "By saying 'woke' a lot I am proclaiming my proud membership of Team MAGA". And that's it. That's all it means.
This isn't surprising at all. The more I've engaged with conservative family members, the more I've learned that we're all fucking tired and just want to be able to live and vibe.
Republicans will focus heavily on brown people who are fleeing climate change and crossing the southern border. Sweden has see a resurgence of fascism because a few Muslims migrated to that country on account of climate change. My fear is that the whites will panic once they realize that the USA is on track to become a majority minority country by 2040 and those whites will readily embrace violence to prevent that from happening.
Hahahahaha awesome. Between this and the polls showing people are either friendly or indifferent to gay and trans people this really indicates people are getting tired of this shit from the right. You love to see it.
I think the difference between Trump and the later stuff is Trump was actually riding a popular trend, not trying to push it farther than his base wanted. He would dog whistle and conspiracy talk but never got specific beyond the point of leading into it (sometimes I'm not sure how much he even understands of the meaning behind some of the things he says), so it's less exhausting and committing in a way. Trump can make a show without asking for anything directly, hinting and allowing and letting fanatics do the rest, but allowing the rest of his base to pretend they weren't. Trump could be a lot of things to a lot of people.
While I'm happy the Republican rhetoric is backfiring, I'm somewhat worried on the off-chance that they pivot this into more abstract, less socially immediate issues like "economic policy" (insofar as the average Republican understands it when they used to say that they voted because "the dems are worse at the economy") while they consolidate power behind closed doors and try again with renewed fervor in a couple years.
I'm happy the GOP is losing support, but I also fear that people's distrust of Republicans would make Democrats _too_ palatable by comparison. It's exactly what the Dems want, as evidenced by the fact Democrat politicians fund Republican candidates in the hopes they'll run on a platform so crazy that Democrats are the better alternative. It's important to remember that both parties are right wing.
But will this translate into changes in voting? As in if a Republican voter has the choice between voting for a fascist who only talks about Wokeness, or not voting at all, will they choose not to vote or will they go "at least they ain't a librul."
I think it will, especially because a lot of these people have gay and trans family members, so a lot of them will feel less incentivized to vote because they love their family members more than they are afraid of "wokeness".
There were enough registered Republicans who voted for Biden because they hated Trump to make Trump lose 2020, and the overturning of Roe v Wade lead to further Republican loss in the 2022 midterms. So there is hope.
We don't need Republican voters. Most voters don't vote Republican, so that is all we need. Ideally they get in line, if they don't we ram them down. That's how we implemented slavery and civil rights legislation. Don't expect neo confederate Trumpist neo Nazi QAnon Russian traitors to quietly accept who's in charge. They didn't before.
Thanks for your explanation and analysis. This is what I've been thinking for a couple of years now. Grinding up against human nature. It's too much effort for the GOP to keep their constituents angry.
I really want to watch the Republicans weasel their way out of caring about trans people vis-a-vis Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles. There will be so much avoiding humble pie and it'll be funny to watch them tie themselves into pretzels to return to things people care about in a way that looks organic.
The thumbnail is cut short. There should be another panel that says No, sweetie, this is the only thing that has even a slight chance to be 50% popular.
Yeah, its almost like these "woke" topics are fucking useless and only take away from the real problems. You know, the whole vinyl chloride in the water thing
I interpret many of the Black respondants who think Republicans should talk about it more believe that Republicans should start being woke, not start bitching about wokeness more When you realize that "woke" has been appropriated away from Black people, it makes a lot of sense that many Black people would have different ideas of what this means
Same thing is happening in the UK. The tories are obsessed with culture war issues. But the electorate want solutions to the economic crisis they have wrought
It’s to the point where they are bitching about representation of disabled people as being woke. Like Fox News bitching that a Lego set for handicapped people was Lego going woke 😑😑😑
I feel like a reason for the disparity between black people and other racial groups in the poll might be because they took the framing of the question in a positive sense rather than negative, saying that republicans should talk about it more as in they should be more 'WOKE'.
I left the right when I finally understood that wokism never once affected my life in a negative way but low wages and corporate price gouging did. Tim pool types will accept everyone being a corporate slave but call himself free if it’s not woke.
Woke is the perfect right wing buzzword because it can mean anything right wingers want to mean. To one group of right wingers it’s trans people. To another it’s black people. To another it’s women. It’s malleable and that’s what makes it the perfect dog whistle.
Does anybody else feel like this is the best Vaush clip of all time and have the need to send it to as many friends and family as possible? Or is it just me
Anti woke rhetoric does not put a chicken in your pot or a roof over your head. Please keep beating these silly drums GoP, you will win all the elections 😂
Maybe some people genuinely interpreted "Republicans should talk abt wokeness more" as talking abt it _positively_ . It bears to mention for example that the term "woke" originated in the black community under a clearly positive, pro-black connotation. This might be one possible explanation for that confusion among black people, I might be completely off base tho. It's not like I'm suggesting that most people are not aware that Republicans talk abt "wokeness" in a negative and highly distorted light. Nonetheless who knows, one might still interpret the statement the wrong way.
While it is a good thing that Republican voters aren't as invested on the trans stuff as politicians and media figures are, but I worry that they might become more hostile if it ever affected them personally. Like if someone in their family or a close friend ever came out as trans to them, they might go from thinking "I don't care as long as it doesn't affect me in any way" to then saying "Damn it, now I got put up with this woke shit for the rest of my life".
I got the feeling recently that the whole Bud Light woke can drama was at least a minor jumping of the shark moment for the anti-woke campaign. A lot of regular people are just tired of the bickering
I want to see a video from Vaush talking about Establishment corporate neolin Dems broadly becoming less and less popular in favor of justice Dems and progressives.
While I saw this as initially promising, they say their sample size was just of 1000 registered voters. I don't think this expresses the entirety of even a state, let alone the country.
Minority groups supporting GOP talking about woke could one of two things. Part of it could be people taking woke at its original meaning and being like "Yes the Republicans need to acknowledge bigotry!" the second part could be that homophobia/transphobia is strongly prevalent in some minority communities.
If conservatives are actually capable of thinking rationally about their self interest and not just virtue signalling the latest talking points spoon fed by Fox News while their house falls apart around them that might restore some of my faith in humanity. Not all of it, but a bit.
Just going to say this. During the 2022 midterms abortion was like the number 6 issue on the list for democrat voters when polled. That didn't effect the results of what Democrat Law makers passed. Because a dedicated cohort of the party was pushing for it. The same thing is happening with republican voters
nice trends, but they'll fall in line with whoever the donor class puts in front of them. they care way more about power than woke-ness, or any other "ism" for that matter
@@norman6524 "A good maximum sample size is usually around 10% of the population, as long as this does not exceed 1000. For example, in a population of 5000, 10% would be 500. In a population of 200,000, 10% would be 20,000. This exceeds 1000, so in this case the maximum would be 1000." 1,000 is the standard, so it's still fine
I don't think they understand "net" talk about it less. They are ignoring the amount of people who are satisfied with the amount it is being talked about (the purple bit in the middle). Those people are still in favor of it being talked about. So very right wing people still net want it to be talked about.
Still, 40% of "very republican" people said talk about it less. Nearly half of VERY republican people are getting tired of it. When nearly half of the avid supporters are starting to get tired it's very telling
@@daaaaaaanny Do we have something to compare it to, though? There's a fair chance that a lot of them never cared for it, they just vote for the lower taxes or gun humping or they think their religion requires them to vote Republican or any of a number of nonsense reasons.
Tbh it feels like both sides are negative rn, like its the current trend. Even Vaush at the start of the clip has to prephase the ''im gonna be optimistic for a bit, yes there are still plenty of scary signs on the horizon but...'' currently neither side are selling the path to a better world both sides are fearmongering in different ways, or at least thats what it looks like superficially to me
Idk man, a world where minorities arent under constant assault from the government seems like a pretty nice path forward to me. Pointing out that one side is disproportionately targeting all different kinds of minorities isn't "fear mongering" its just accurately describing their political strategy. If it makes you feel afraid then good, that means you're human. You should feel a little afraid at a government willing to direct so many resources into making small parts of the population miserable.
Thing being, there genuinely are some scary signs on the horizon. So it's not so much fear mongering as it is a accurate description. I mean we have people using straight up genocidal rethoric towards trans people and that is just an acceptable thing to do for some people. That's scary. (Yes saying we need to eradicate "Transgenderism" is the same as saying trans people should not exists and we need to take active steps to make it so.)
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These people seriously gotta be asked "how has woke culture directly impacted you" and 99% of them wont have an answer except for minor annoyance 😂
Or they'd answer with a cliche about a thing that doesn't happen
BUT THEY PUT A GIRL IN STAR WARS !
WOKE CULTURE MADE ME HAVE TO SHARE A BATHROOM WITH OTHER PEOPLE OF MY GENDER!!! (I am scared because they could be trans and I can’t stop thinking about what’s in other people’s pants)
WELL I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I HAVE TO WORK WITH THE SNOWFLAKE GAYS AND BLACKS NOW, CANT EVEN MAKE AN INNOCENT 13/50 JOKE WITHOUT SOME WOKEY GETING OFFENDED😡😡😡
And 99.9% of them won’t be able to define “woke” when asked.
My boyfriends Cristian conservative father actually voted Democrat in the midterms cus he was tired of all the culture war shit and he wanted a higher minumum wage
incredibly based
Not based, He's still a Christian conservative......right?
Damn, maybe there is hope for conservatives to actually vote based on their own self-interest
@@nicholbrownshayne material conditions are important. Are you a leftist?
@@BleedForTheWorld They are, most likely, not. Considering they subscribe to channels like Tim Pool, Matt Walsh, Actual Justice Warrior, etc. At least they are helping by boosting this channel.
I think Americans are just in general getting sick of culture wars.
Which is really bad for republicans, because that means they might actually have to turn to trying to be elected on policy.
they will just change the target, now is trans people, they will find another new minority to athack
The only default answer they also have is "the economy is bad because of Biden". They have absolutely nothing to say specifically on that nor about any topics such as education and healthcare unless it relates to a culture war issue
Where are these supposed replies TH-cam? WHERE ARE THEY?!
@@537monster lmao 😂
Imagine Republicans actually having policy ideas 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They're forced into a losing battle because they *have* to blame "wokeness" on everything in this stage of their theatrics. They abandoned everything else because of some rainbows and women...!
Rainbows and trans women got them acting most unwise.
But they have to cater to their racist 75+ audience, who are feeling the door of death creak everyday
@@zeptocreations5507 They actin up.
No, it is not a stupid happenstance. This is a concerted effort to deflect attention. NEVER mistake the malicious efforts of conservatives for stupidity. They ARE NOT stupid: they're evil, and trying to create a new target for hate.
People are like “healthcare pls”
Which of course they'll never get by voting for the GOP
Can’t even drink my bud light to numb the pain 🥺
“Oh you don’t need healthcare here look there’s a trans person on this candy bar”
@@kingpinpasta2934 "Oh you broke a bone and can't work due to poor safety conditions? That's the fault of the trans movement!"
@@thunderspark1536 It's also the fault of green M&Ms!
In Australia our right leaning major party is getting slapped hard by voters because most newer voters are progressive and don't want to destroy the planet.
Totally! The LNP confiming they will campaign against the Voice to parliament is only going to further bury the right wing of Australian politics.
@Kirbecca let's see if the teal independents become a new formation of the conservative side of Auspol.
Hopefully Dutton will lead them to oblivion.
@Kirbecca I have nothing to add, just wanted to say I love your pfp!
I considered myself a conservative until fairly recently, and yeah all the anti-trans stuff is a big part of what finally made me abandon ship
Cool. Welcome to the light Side.
Welcome friend. We love you
Good on you for assessing how well their professed priorities reflected your own, and acting on that. It’s often easier for us all to defer to our current beliefs/biases/environment.
Good on ya.
I try to stay open to new information and reflect on my options but it can be so easy to overlook how entrenched we can be in certain identities/ideas.
We stan personal growth ❤
Spent my late teens and early 20's somewhat "conservative". Mid 20's I just kinda woke up and realized it didn't make any sense at all. Mid 30's now, and I drift further left every year.
Glad you too could reassess your values.
This actually makes me so happy that right-wing voters are unironically waking up. We need to guide these poor souls to a better party. Now's the time to show them empathy from the left
Wouldn’t quite call this “waking up” but I feel you
I would. I wouldn’t say that they are gonna flip, but it might let up on the gas of extremism.
I wouldn’t mind a GOP that wasn’t genocidal, even if their stance on Free Markets makes me groan
You do realise this "waking up" of the voters is something that could affect both sides negatively right? Let's not forget that whole "why I left the left" trend of videos lately springing up
@@nicholbrownshayne recently? That's been a thing for years now. Dim Tool was one of the first online people to bring that up.
That's nice and all but the Democrats are do nothing and they are still useless. If Biden was five times as good, propagandists would have a hard time trying to stick anything on him after a while.
The good things happening are because gen Z has come of age. I've been looking forward to this. I've known it was coming. This boomer thinks zoomers are great.
Money is the most consistent predictor of political views, even more reliable than race or religion. Once gen Z gets old enough to start getting rich they'll shift to be more conservative. The same thing happened to Gen X and millenials.
@@dadbodenvy4247 that would require the ability to maintain wealth or income, which is becoming increasingly difficult for newer generations
@@dadbodenvy4247 i think us gen z ers missed the mark with the whole “getting richer when becoming older” shit. That would fly 80 years ago but weve been so royally fucked by the system that there is barely any future left for us. Also do you honestly believe that most young people will escape poverty purely because they grow older? Because if thats the fact than youre not even worthy of participating in this convo
@@dadbodenvy4247 Not quite true. Money drives you to the right on economic issues, sure, but it doesn't really affect your cultural issues.
Like landing a cushy job isn't gonna make you homophobic, all of a sudden.
And the trend culturally has been sharply leftwards. I remember in my childhood homophobia was normalized. Nowadays, even the republicans aren't outwardly homophobic most of the time. The recent attacks on trans people is a last desperate attack on the last social minority they can attack before it too becomes normalized.
And it's happening, too. Remember the fox news story that covered a child's transition in a positive light? Remember the polls showing that a good chunk, over a third of republicans support childhood transition? It's a battle they're bound to lose.
@@dadbodenvy4247 Yeah, that makes sense. If only they were paid a livable wage at base, and had lots of opportunities to buy homes, settle down, and oh wait...
Current conservatives don't like that. Kinda hard to make new "keep stuff as is" people when everyone is barely scraping by and does NOT have a relaxing, rich life.
My only concern is that when conservative republican voters say "talk about it less", they very well likely mean "I don't want this woke BLM trans-agenda crap forced in my face", not simply "please focus on more important socioeconomic issues". That, along with believing that minorities/underprivileged groups don't need any more focus because there's nothing to worry about, they are no longer discriminated against, because Bud Light put a rainbow on their cans.
Either way, Republican Politicians take a hit as their goal is to start a Genocide. Hard to do a Genocide when your voters don't care about giving you the power to do so.
Oh dude i LOVE the malding coming from all the loser alcoholics who are mad about those cans lol
@@adamsmasher9769 Hey! Don't you conflate wholesome alcoholism for conservative hate! Us alcoholics will love a fence post with enough booze!
@@ashkebora7262 fair enough lol
Yeah I’m not entirely convinced by Vaush’s take away from this poll. I remember when Kyle Kulinski did an entire segment on his show about a study saying more and more republicans are upset by the direction America is taking and he interpreted that as conservatives becoming class conscious. This was right before Jan 6 mind you.
This reminds me of when Vaush reviewed the cope stream after the midterms. A prevalent point in that stream was that they constantly talked about wielding power against their opponents, and not a one mentioned helping their voters.
@@MollTheLioness Very true. Lets hope it bites them in the ass, at least.
I don't remember who it was, but one of these right-wing pundits referred to Biden promising to pass policies that would help black people as "bribing black people for their vote" - as though it's not meant to be politicians' jobs to pass policies that make the people's lives better.
It's mask-off cruelty is the point, for Republicans. They have no other policy to run on.
Who cares about healthcare and chemo when you can own the libs.
Surprisingly, "owning the libs" really that good a strategy - especially when pushed at the expense of at least some sort of "boost the cons".
turns out that maybe building your entire political platform as a glorified 2016 gamer-gate anti-sjw youtuber may end up being just as relevant in a couple of years and tire people out as they wish to focus in other stuff beyond constant panicking and bitching over harmless stuff
But why aren't the M&M's sexy anymore??
Ive noticed this. 2 ex coworkers texted me right when the trans rhetoric went to "we do not want ANY trans people." and asked how I knew it would ramp up lol. They just wanted it away from kids. There is no logical leap to "stop all trans healthcare" from childhood protection when the reasoning is "protecting the kids." Another huge misstep. They also hate the books disappearing from schools and dont like propagandizing American history. Both of them average center right conservatives. Not bad people just disinfranchised middle class men. So that gave me hope.
You're giving them too much credit. Their lack of competence limits how evil they're allowed to be, not the other way around. Stupidity isn't their flaw, it's their saving grace.
@@peopleofearth6250 This is somewhat true for the parties, yes, but not for individuals. And individuals are the things that vote, and a party is only as strong as it's support base. Even if a party is vehemently anti-democratic, they still need people to actually support them in the sense of "abiding by and carrying out their despot's orders"; it's the difference between fascism being the social order in NSDAP Germany, and Mosley's "British Union of Fascists" having to fight for table scraps of legitimacy, only ever hoping to be seen as anything more than agitators by the public at large.
Which, in turn, brings out that "somewhat true" also means "largely untrue": Their incompetence gives the GOP an unlimited amount of evil they can ATTEMPT, but it never puts on the actual amount of evil they can actually get away with while still having any credible amount of support/power.
And this is the threshold we're reaching - where lots of people who were formerly on board with the GOP and thus contributing to their overall effectiveness are deciding they've gone a bridge too far.
@@peopleofearth6250 For the party, stupidity is the saving grace. For the people, stupidity maximizes the harm they can do despite their best intentions.
Just out of curiosity, did you tell them about the history of the LGBT community with slogans like "save our kids"? It's really interesting and it should be taught in schools
A good place to start is the AIDS crisis and Anita Bryant who was one of the leading "save our kids" advocates. There was a very successful boycott of orange juice because she was the spokesperson at the time
Perhaps the positive side of the "banality of evil" is that they're just as susceptible to human error. They jumped the gun on the hate train too early, and its going to bite them in the ass. Or at least thats what we're hoping for
I don't think the problem is that they jumped on the hate train too early as much as it is that they overstayed their welcome and the train is running out of coal. they're losing relevance because, as someone else in the comment section pointed out, "they built their entire political platform as a glorified gamer-gate anti-sjw youtuber", and believe it or not, it's been about 7 years since 2016
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They boiled the frog too fast and now they're panicking trying to stave off the inevitable
Its either talk about wokeness or talk about real material issues. So they're going to just keep talking about wokeness
Exhaustion from being angry is what stopped me from fully falling down the alt right pipeline
The disparity between the working class and the people they work for has only been increasing. People will only lean on hating eachother for so long until they realize who put us in these positions.
unless theyre given false consciousness thru propaganda & end up believing that jewish people run a kabbal to keep them down. i wish we could trust that eventually ppl would wake up, so to speak, but with ppl like carlson & west & all the covert nazis in right-wing media i wouldnt say we can sit back & let things play out
I agree with Vaush's take. There is a lot of political science literature that suggests that American politics is largely defined by a "cultural cleavage." In essence, cultural issues mobilize voting bases in modern American politics. The data Vaush presents suggests that the GOP's go-to "woke" talking point is waning with its base. However, the GOP is good at jumping on whatever new right-wing moral outrage pops up, so this could quite easily change. Overall, each subsequent generation is more culturally progressive than the last, which spells bad news for the GOP in the long run.
This is true, but I feel like they already *have*, they've just become obsessed with shoving it under the "woke" umbrella for some reason.
As Vaush pointed out, "woke" was originally a BLM thing. Then the trend because homophobia, so they added gays to "woke". Then trans people, etc etc. If anything, the issue is they've began making it less obvious when they're trend jumping. GOP voters historically liked it when the GOP would stay on-top of the "current issue", and now - even though they are - the fact that all of their new positions are just being made addendums to the "anti-woke agenda" makes it really hard to see such.
I mean the "woke" thing is so amorphous that it has very little meaning, and the trans scapegoat is such a niche talking point that it doesn't land well.
Historically, conservatives pushed the idea of inclusion affecting personal rights, even with the bathroom talking points, but now they're attacking individual rights from a collective perspective.
Another thing is that technology has changed a lot over the last 10-15 years, particularly the function of social media, so propaganda is being pushed constantly and changes rapidly. Where as in the past, the party would release a few talking points within msm and stick to it causing political cohesion.
But I do think you're right not to underestimate Republicans.
Israel is the exception because young people there are super conservative due to propaganda against Arab folks there
Question, isn’t Christianity on the rise among youth because of right wing grifters on tiktok?
@@lighting7508 not according to statistics I've seen, every generation has had a decline in Christian affiliation since religiosity has been tracked.
With Gen Z being only 38% Christian as opposed to 42% of millennials.
After 2016 a whopping 20% decline in Christianity has taken place, not sure if it is directly tied to Trump but most likely the authoritarianism of Evangelicals in general.
That said, White Christian Evangelicalism is primarily right-wing, however historically Christianity has been tied to the Civil Rights Movement, particularly through Liberation Theology.
I'm not a voter(since I am not American and cannot vote in your elections), and I am pretty tired of it as well.
Good to see the inherent unsustainability of fascism be the very thing that stops it. Hope Vaush is right
Been saying this for a while now. When you surround yourself in all-consuming hatred, it will eventually consume you as well. I genuinely think america's politics are about to make a major heelturn by the next election
@@lolzor96 If they don't, the US is going to take a massive heel turn in to the dirt.
Republicans: "we're pro corporate!"; Disney: "We make the rules now!" DeSantis: *surprised pikachu*
Hopefully my hypothesis won't age poorly but I think the complete lack of anything ambitious and positive the right-wing in this country has to offer will be the end for them. The most 'aspirational' thing you can read into the reactionary right's rhetoric is the Christian eschatological promise of the second coming, which is pretty pathetic if you ask me.
They want the 1950s nuclear family to come back, but that can never happen because they wouldn't want one family member to be able to make a middle class salary while working an average job.
Their greatest ambition is that fucking wall.
@@basedeltazero714 I can't believe biden hid the wall 😭😭😭
The demographics are against them. Generation Z seems to self-report 1 in 5 as LGBT. As well as just leaning vastly more left. This will become a major issue for them in the next two cycles as Boomers exit the voting pool with increasing rapidity. Really, the GOP has become so reflexively reactionary that they immediately attack anything new, which is what young people are into, which further divides them from this generation. And the right lives in this echo chamber where they think that can't matter. They aren't going to be able to reprogram young people into little fascists.
@@kayakat1869Conservatives really are the unnatural principle. Time moves forward and progresses yet they are trying to keep us backward in one decade of American history and glorify it as if it was something golden. Masters of manipulation and propaganda.
i'm pretty convinced that average republican voters are invigorated with Trump's "drain the swamp" comment more than anything.
Funny since it comes from the slimiest swamp monster that ever existed! 😒
Definitely. The drain the swamp lies, the I’m gunna fund my own campaign I don’t need their corrupt money lies…they wanted to believe that sht so badly. They still want to believe it. My parents voted for Obama twice. They ate up the hope and CHANGE crap. Loved it. Now they are die hard trump cultists that still think he’s draining he swamp and kicking the ass of the elite. They are so disillusioned with government that they want it to all burn down now and they think Trump will burn it down.
That phrase definitely won some supporters but generally people with very little understanding of politics or knowledge of specific politicians... just feels.
@@SigFigNewton waa waa, my tax money might have to go to saving the lives of poor people instead of bombing the middle east, i am so oppressed, guess i need to vote fascist
@@FifthTrumpet Actually it's worse; "I'll vote for actual fascists because the other side doesn't support poor people".
My dad definitely flipped a switch on this over the last year. Won't do shit to help his hick ass county but he was slightly further in than your average Trump supporter so its nice to see even those people waking up.
At our Easter family get-together today my conservative uncle used the word "woke" about a dozen times. I really wanted to ask him to define it, but I learned a long time ago (or at least since I became a leftist) to not get into politics with extended family on holidays.
Yeah the hilarious thing is that it no longer means anything substantive to conservatives, it is *literally* an empty virtue signal - "By saying 'woke' a lot I am proclaiming my proud membership of Team MAGA". And that's it. That's all it means.
This isn't surprising at all. The more I've engaged with conservative family members, the more I've learned that we're all fucking tired and just want to be able to live and vibe.
This is why you don't drink your own Koolaid.
Spellcheck wanted me to say "coolant" and that works too.
Wait, I shouldn't drink my coolant? I wish someone told me that 10 years ago.
It’s hard to imagine what republicans could even use as an aspirational vision.
Especially one that young people would look forward too.
Republicans will focus heavily on brown people who are fleeing climate change and crossing the southern border. Sweden has see a resurgence of fascism because a few Muslims migrated to that country on account of climate change. My fear is that the whites will panic once they realize that the USA is on track to become a majority minority country by 2040 and those whites will readily embrace violence to prevent that from happening.
Not much.
Hahahahaha awesome. Between this and the polls showing people are either friendly or indifferent to gay and trans people this really indicates people are getting tired of this shit from the right.
You love to see it.
I think the difference between Trump and the later stuff is Trump was actually riding a popular trend, not trying to push it farther than his base wanted. He would dog whistle and conspiracy talk but never got specific beyond the point of leading into it (sometimes I'm not sure how much he even understands of the meaning behind some of the things he says), so it's less exhausting and committing in a way. Trump can make a show without asking for anything directly, hinting and allowing and letting fanatics do the rest, but allowing the rest of his base to pretend they weren't. Trump could be a lot of things to a lot of people.
While I'm happy the Republican rhetoric is backfiring, I'm somewhat worried on the off-chance that they pivot this into more abstract, less socially immediate issues like "economic policy" (insofar as the average Republican understands it when they used to say that they voted because "the dems are worse at the economy") while they consolidate power behind closed doors and try again with renewed fervor in a couple years.
I'm happy the GOP is losing support, but I also fear that people's distrust of Republicans would make Democrats _too_ palatable by comparison. It's exactly what the Dems want, as evidenced by the fact Democrat politicians fund Republican candidates in the hopes they'll run on a platform so crazy that Democrats are the better alternative. It's important to remember that both parties are right wing.
But will this translate into changes in voting? As in if a Republican voter has the choice between voting for a fascist who only talks about Wokeness, or not voting at all, will they choose not to vote or will they go "at least they ain't a librul."
I think it will, especially because a lot of these people have gay and trans family members, so a lot of them will feel less incentivized to vote because they love their family members more than they are afraid of "wokeness".
There were enough registered Republicans who voted for Biden because they hated Trump to make Trump lose 2020, and the overturning of Roe v Wade lead to further Republican loss in the 2022 midterms. So there is hope.
They won't vote dem hell no, but they very well might just stay home
It is more likely to just be disappearing into inaction where Democrats gain ground by Republicans disappearing.
We don't need Republican voters. Most voters don't vote Republican, so that is all we need. Ideally they get in line, if they don't we ram them down. That's how we implemented slavery and civil rights legislation. Don't expect neo confederate Trumpist neo Nazi QAnon Russian traitors to quietly accept who's in charge. They didn't before.
Hate is energy and goals are pathways. All energy and no way to direct it is a bomb.
they finaly hit the end of the rope
let's not jump the gun. it doesnt matter what the people think if democracy is undermined
Not yet. After the trials.
Here in Australia we are looking at what may be the death of our major right wing party and I couldn't be happier.
Americans have always loved idealism and rights. Even during this trump era, it never quite was able to overcome that.
People in 2033: "Ugh, so sick of the GOP talking about BLORP."
Thanks for your explanation and analysis. This is what I've been thinking for a couple of years now. Grinding up against human nature. It's too much effort for the GOP to keep their constituents angry.
I really want to watch the Republicans weasel their way out of caring about trans people vis-a-vis Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles. There will be so much avoiding humble pie and it'll be funny to watch them tie themselves into pretzels to return to things people care about in a way that looks organic.
I think GOP strategy for “a better world” is to increase theocracy throughout the country.
Yeah because imposing your particular religion and/or sect of said religion down people’s throats is such a good idea.
Yeah, that's what concerns me. It's really concerning that my country is getting closer to becoming a dystopian theocracy.
The thumbnail is cut short. There should be another panel that says No, sweetie, this is the only thing that has even a slight chance to be 50% popular.
I can't promise it will be good, but I can promise my poll will be woke
Yeah, its almost like these "woke" topics are fucking useless and only take away from the real problems. You know, the whole vinyl chloride in the water thing
I think everyone has kinda gotten sick of the whole "woke" discourse from either direction.
I interpret many of the Black respondants who think Republicans should talk about it more believe that Republicans should start being woke, not start bitching about wokeness more
When you realize that "woke" has been appropriated away from Black people, it makes a lot of sense that many Black people would have different ideas of what this means
Same thing is happening in the UK. The tories are obsessed with culture war issues. But the electorate want solutions to the economic crisis they have wrought
The only solution is cut spending. But since people don’t like that the only thing politicians can talk about is woke stuff.
@@justsomeguy6336 only solution is to increase spending and increase taxes. But their donors don't like that
@@justsomeguy6336 They tried that for 13 years. It didn't work.
@@eelvis1674 So your solution is just inflation.
@@justsomeguy6336 huh? Inflation and wage growth yes.
I'm soo tired of the word "woke." I haven't heard anyone on the left use that words in years.
I haven't ever used it. If i had to use a term. I would be using "social justice" just like Teddy Roosevelt. myself.
Remember that one Dennis Prager interview where the interviewer said "corporations are bad" and Dennis said "I agree, they're way too woke."
It’s to the point where they are bitching about representation of disabled people as being woke. Like Fox News bitching that a Lego set for handicapped people was Lego going woke 😑😑😑
just wait another 10 years the americans will be busy arguing about some other irrelevant thing instead of the important topics.
Blorpness is the real threat.
I feel like a reason for the disparity between black people and other racial groups in the poll might be because they took the framing of the question in a positive sense rather than negative, saying that republicans should talk about it more as in they should be more 'WOKE'.
I left the right when I finally understood that wokism never once affected my life in a negative way but low wages and corporate price gouging did. Tim pool types will accept everyone being a corporate slave but call himself free if it’s not woke.
Positivity is such a help especially with all the negativity around trans pepo
i find it funny how vaush has Unity and Blender pinned to his taskbar like he uses them all the time and he's some game developer
Woke is the perfect right wing buzzword because it can mean anything right wingers want to mean. To one group of right wingers it’s trans people. To another it’s black people. To another it’s women. It’s malleable and that’s what makes it the perfect dog whistle.
One thing I’m worried about is that next year we’re gonna forget about this and republicans might change their strategy
Write this shit down in the books and journals. Then we dont forget
Never forgive
Never forget
Does anybody else feel like this is the best Vaush clip of all time and have the need to send it to as many friends and family as possible? Or is it just me
Anti woke rhetoric does not put a chicken in your pot or a roof over your head.
Please keep beating these silly drums GoP, you will win all the elections 😂
Maybe some people genuinely interpreted "Republicans should talk abt wokeness more" as talking abt it _positively_ . It bears to mention for example that the term "woke" originated in the black community under a clearly positive, pro-black connotation. This might be one possible explanation for that confusion among black people, I might be completely off base tho. It's not like I'm suggesting that most people are not aware that Republicans talk abt "wokeness" in a negative and highly distorted light. Nonetheless who knows, one might still interpret the statement the wrong way.
While it is a good thing that Republican voters aren't as invested on the trans stuff as politicians and media figures are, but I worry that they might become more hostile if it ever affected them personally. Like if someone in their family or a close friend ever came out as trans to them, they might go from thinking "I don't care as long as it doesn't affect me in any way" to then saying "Damn it, now I got put up with this woke shit for the rest of my life".
I got the feeling recently that the whole Bud Light woke can drama was at least a minor jumping of the shark moment for the anti-woke campaign. A lot of regular people are just tired of the bickering
I want to see a video from Vaush talking about Establishment corporate neolin Dems broadly becoming less and less popular in favor of justice Dems and progressives.
This is getting so long in the tooth for the electorate it risks being both impacted and infected
Hope they get the same treatment they show the American people! They deserve nothing less!
While I saw this as initially promising, they say their sample size was just of 1000 registered voters. I don't think this expresses the entirety of even a state, let alone the country.
That's not how the statistics of polling works...
Minority groups supporting GOP talking about woke could one of two things. Part of it could be people taking woke at its original meaning and being like "Yes the Republicans need to acknowledge bigotry!" the second part could be that homophobia/transphobia is strongly prevalent in some minority communities.
If conservatives are actually capable of thinking rationally about their self interest and not just virtue signalling the latest talking points spoon fed by Fox News while their house falls apart around them that might restore some of my faith in humanity. Not all of it, but a bit.
Was Vaush's chair always that fucked up?
He owns 3 cats
You can watch it happen gradually, he didn't buy it like that lol, people having been telling him to buy a new one for months. He won't 😎
@@overlookers we now know Vaush is too humane to declaw a cat.
No, once it was brand new. Time has taken its toll.
It's the cats but dude makes six figures, could get a new one
Just going to say this. During the 2022 midterms abortion was like the number 6 issue on the list for democrat voters when polled. That didn't effect the results of what Democrat Law makers passed. Because a dedicated cohort of the party was pushing for it.
The same thing is happening with republican voters
GOP: Infrastructure and healthcare? I sleep
GOP: trans people? I WOKE 😂
Healthcare pls
Exhaustion is the only hubris we could possibly hope for in order for Republican voters to stop supporting authoritarian politics, i.e. woke.
nice trends, but they'll fall in line with whoever the donor class puts in front of them. they care way more about power than woke-ness, or any other "ism" for that matter
They will still vote republican
The only problem with the poll is it says they only polled 1k people
That's a completely fine sample size though
@@daaaaaaanny not when like 180 million people vote
@@norman6524 "A good maximum sample size is usually around 10% of the population, as long as this does not exceed 1000. For example, in a population of 5000, 10% would be 500. In a population of 200,000, 10% would be 20,000. This exceeds 1000, so in this case the maximum would be 1000."
1,000 is the standard, so it's still fine
a 1000 poll means nothing though, could have been an overabundance of voters from the right state
I could do with some hopium
let them keep going. I've seen so many radicals turn around just because they find the GOP extremely cringe with their "wOkE" non problems.
Why would you put this in the pit instead of the main channel?
blorp
i cant BELIEVE what the blorp mob has done to this country,
We need Republicans to make America great again. It's in the slogan.
How is that optimistic tho? It just shows that they are tired of the topic, sure, but they would still be apathetic if a trans genocide were to occur.
The poll is woke
I don't think they understand "net" talk about it less. They are ignoring the amount of people who are satisfied with the amount it is being talked about (the purple bit in the middle). Those people are still in favor of it being talked about. So very right wing people still net want it to be talked about.
Still, 40% of "very republican" people said talk about it less. Nearly half of VERY republican people are getting tired of it. When nearly half of the avid supporters are starting to get tired it's very telling
@@daaaaaaanny Do we have something to compare it to, though? There's a fair chance that a lot of them never cared for it, they just vote for the lower taxes or gun humping or they think their religion requires them to vote Republican or any of a number of nonsense reasons.
Ask GOP supporters what WOKE means. The answers you get are wild.
This poll was woke
How tf
What’s difficult to understand about inflation?
Just a comment for the algorithm 💜💖🤖
but i thought youtube comments were an accurate cross section of conservatives??
Probably the gop is spending too much time in the internet.
Based Disney
Vaush W
If I had a nickel for everytime Vaush brings up Hitler......
If I had a nickel for every time the right does something nazis adjacent...
bababooey
Can we offer you more Woke in these trying times.
Blorp
Wok3
Tbh it feels like both sides are negative rn, like its the current trend. Even Vaush at the start of the clip has to prephase the ''im gonna be optimistic for a bit, yes there are still plenty of scary signs on the horizon but...'' currently neither side are selling the path to a better world both sides are fearmongering in different ways, or at least thats what it looks like superficially to me
Idk man, a world where minorities arent under constant assault from the government seems like a pretty nice path forward to me. Pointing out that one side is disproportionately targeting all different kinds of minorities isn't "fear mongering" its just accurately describing their political strategy.
If it makes you feel afraid then good, that means you're human. You should feel a little afraid at a government willing to direct so many resources into making small parts of the population miserable.
Thing being, there genuinely are some scary signs on the horizon. So it's not so much fear mongering as it is a accurate description. I mean we have people using straight up genocidal rethoric towards trans people and that is just an acceptable thing to do for some people. That's scary. (Yes saying we need to eradicate "Transgenderism" is the same as saying trans people should not exists and we need to take active steps to make it so.)
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