Ghost face getting his ass kicked to me made him a little more scary than the indestructible other slashers. It made seem like you could possibly win, but he always seem to be just a little bit more ahead. Fighting an unkillable nightmare lich, yeah you're dead. Fight a person who actually gets hurt when you punch him, you have a chance. The stakes are higher if you have a chance.
@@helloworld2784 exactly, I’ve never been scared of Freddy for example, because it’s almost a lose scenario. While with Ghostface, it’s the idea of false hope as you mentioned that creates a more realistic yet tension-filled antagonist
Wow I made this horror movie template! The films you picked looked so similar to my own list when I realised that you used the one I created. I don’t wanna be that guy who makes a big deal out of nothing but man it felt really good to see you consider my template half decent and get some use out of it. It feels like I’ve somewhat contributed to the horror community which is cool. I’m the same with Alien at S Tier - I also put The Witch there and Halloween. I really really like Hellraiser so that’s A tier for me. I will have to watch The Thing again as I put it in A tier but after hearing your enthusiastic praise for it I guess it’s time for a rewatch. Fun Fact: I put Twilight Breaking Dawn in the template as a meme due to that horrifying cgi baby! More terrifying than any horror movie I’ve seen.
The fact that Rob Bottin was 22 years old when he made the prosthetics for The Thing blows my mind. I’m around 20 and I can barely tie my shoelaces properly
Maybe it would be best if he did something like what are the best horror movies he's seen each month so he doesn't have to make a whole vid about an specific film.
I would love to know where these would have landed on your list: -Candyman -The Taking of Deborah Morgan -Sinister -The Hitcher (1986) -Bram Stoker's Dracula Also, I was surprised by how similarly I would have rated everything (though I would have given out S's a little more generously). Also also, I'm happy to see you defend The Village. I had the same initial reaction, but have since watched it many times, and it's one of my top movies, regardless of horror.
Sinister is seriously one of the best horror movies, in my opinion. I wasn't super into the sequel but man, I loved the first one. The Taking a Deborah Morgan was surprisingly pretty good as well!
My opinion: If you like Bram Stoker's Dracula for aesthetic and horror of it,it is fine. It is a beautiful movie to look at,but as a fan of the original Dracula novel I'd put it into tier F just because the movie bastardizing all the hard work Stoker put in the novel which granted him so many stink eyes from the victorian society enraged me. I almost ruptured an artery while watching it,it made me so mad. Dracula is not supposed to be a "straight historical romance" or beautiful. It is an allegory of homosexuality in Victorian Era. I know it is an adaptation but it's success among the mainstream viewers completely wrecked the image of Dracula in public mind,now everyone thinks Dracula was in love with Mina and "died for her" instead of him being in love with Jonathan and it being a hazard to the prim and proper victorian society.
I loved Hush. I think it’s mostly because I’ve had very poor hearing my entire life; so not noticing if someone is in my house, and themes similar to that, terrify me. I also really liked that there are moments in the movie where YOU can’t hear anything either, just like the main character. Then again, I am biased because of my own fears and experiences :)
It made me very happy to hear you defend 'It Follows' and put it in A tier, lol. For the same reasons, I really like that movie and it had some genuinely unnerving scenes without needing to make jumpscares out of them. Like sure, the idea of "STD killer ghost" sounds dumb on a surface level, but what it does with the concept, really works.
I'm happy about that too, I've heard a surprising amount of people talking about how dumb and not scary It Follows is. I found it absolutely one of the scariest movies I've seen in recent years, the unstoppable, eternal stalker idea is haunting to me.
It's also a coming of age movie, and you can't really tell wich era the movie is in there are lots of things from different generations, it's crazy when you start noticing it, like the tube tv but also de weird kindle the girl have, old cars but modern houses, everytime I watch I notice something neat
I think my only problem with that movie is them flubbing the ending (at the pool). The rest of it is great, though, and the ending is even kinda ambiguous. I love how you never know if it's a just a person walking towards the camera, or IT just calmly walking to the protagonists (apart from the scenes where it's clearly IT). Also I just about shit myself in that one scene where it stepped out of the shadows after the heroine's mom or sister opened her bedroom door. Okay, I'm being hyperbolic, but the scene I'm referring to was an actual full body shudder + recoil from the screen moment.
@@TripleB87 yeah the ending I think is the weakest part, with the pool scene. Also big agree. That doorway scene also had me shit my pants, it was done so well lol
My condolences, I have a younger sister who was about the same age as charlie in that movie so it was a rough watch but I can’t imagine how it was for you
Dead By Daylight won't want the controversy with Jeepers Creepers, considering its director was convicted for raping his debut feature film's lead actor, Nathan Forrest Winters, who was 12. I have no clue why Salva was not blacklisted as soon as the accusations hit, and so far as I know Winters is still calling for a boycott of all Salva films to this day.
I found out about this tidbit about JC from Dead Meat (Dead Meat refuses to make a kill count of Jeepers Creepers for this reason) and rewatching some parts of the movie with this knowledge made some parts of the movie hit differently
The sad part is that Salva no longer has any involvement in Jeepers Creepers, and I believe even finally lost the rights to it or had them bought out from under him, but the series has been so tainted because of Salva that it will probably never recover.
Honestly, I thought Dead Silence is scarier than it sometimes gets credit for. James Wan included some effective visuals that still creep me out today, like the unnaturally gaping mouths of the victims after Mary Shaw visits them.
I find it funny that he admits to liking some good, fun camp in certain horror films but then puts Dead Silence in F Tier. When you watch Dead Silence, you are there for a campy good time. Sure it has jumpscares, but the plot is literally about a ghost that rips your tongue out if you scream, I mean come on. And I fucking LOATHE jumpscares.
Dead silence was a movie I passed over for years until a friend made me watch it - I’m glad he did. It was marketed as 2000s schlock horror but it’s so much more effective than that. James Wan really does have a knack for the unsettling, and I appreciate that he brought back the notion that the protagonist doesn’t have to “win” in horror moviesp
Solid list. Toss up between Alien and The Shining as favorite horror movies for me. I'd probably have The Witch, Hereditary, and Midsommar in S tier but then I am a sucker for folk horror and the occult. Would be cool to see a Junji Ito list or general horror book list someday.
Junji ito is God tier in my opinion, he comes up with such original and generally disturbing ideas. Just refreshing to see in the oversaturated horror market. I too would enjoy a tier list involving him.
Thanks for sticking up for the Babadook. I love that movie, for both how creepy the Babadook itself is, and the deeper aspects to the film. It's really masterful, even if there's one specific part during the climax that uses extremely common, incredibly overused stock audio that very nearly ripped me out of the moment (completely saved by Essie Davis' performance). It took a rewatch to fully understand it, but it was so worth it. The filmmakers are genius. I mean, c'mon, they flip the script on the kid so suddenly that you don't even notice that you go from absolutely hating his guts (yeah, I don't blame her, he's a fucking nightmare) to really feeling bad for him, and even for how you felt as he was obviously struggling with the fact that his only remaining parent is going insane in front of him.
The only part I don't like about that movie is the kid, he annoyed tf out of me to the point where I didn't care if he died or not 😂 his acting wasn't great at moments either.
@@GreedAndSelfishness I had the pleasure to watch it on the big screen on Friday night. My local cinema is doing special late night showings of cult classic horror films. Next week is Tetsuo the Iron Man, exicted to go see it! My first viewing of PB on the big screen was absolutely phenomenal. I loved every second of the anxiety ridden masterpiece.
I agree. I watched it a second time last week and changed my 4.5 rating into a 5. I absolutely love that movie together with the very similar Black Swan.
I'm probably not the first person to mention this, but I highly recommend watching all the asian original versions of the horror movies. They are so much better in building the creepy atmosphere. I remember watching some of them in their original form and then in the adapted one right after and they didn't even feel like the same movie, even when the story was technically the same. Also, I don't think this list included them, but I'd recommend Shutter, Dark Water and Pon/Phone in their original asian version.
The first time I watched Ju-on I was legitimately scared, even after seeing the grudge. There’s something about the atmosphere they slowly build, the nihilism of it all, the dread and eventual payoff. So good.
okay, so as a big horror enthusiast, Ringu (and the other following) and ju-on the grudge are so much better than the Americanized version(s)! like the movie Quarantine. The original spanish version REC is also better, as well as the second one. Watching you ranking these makes me want to take a membership from Shudder again...
This. I also commented on both ju-on and REC, both amazing movies butchered in the remakes. REC in particularly, they decided to do a shot-to-shot remake and change the ending which is the best part. Unbelievable. I think john would definitely enjoy non-american horror, although he probably focused on NA movies for his audience. Also he didn't make this list, so there is that.
I personally enjoyed the American remake of The Ring more than Ringu, which surprised me because I rarely feel that way. But I definitely agree with REC being better than Quarantine.
@@AntonConstanti Ring is probably one of the best j-horror remake. Same cannot be said for the grudge. I mean it's okkkkk, but the original is so much creepier and dreadful (in a good way).
Really appreciate the spoiler-free synopsis of each movie, I have only recently started watching horror so this gives me plenty to add to my " watch list", thank you :)
Yeah I was a bit confused about that one. Like, it's already a scary thing! Isn't the point to use something innocuous and make it unexpectedly scary via association? It's like saying, "If you wake up and see that your house is on fire, that means there are spirits"
1. Alien 2. The Thing 3. The Shining For me those three are the three top legendary horror movies. There are some other good ones, really good ones even. But those 3 are just masterpieces.
Earlier this year my step father (who loves horror movies) mentioned he never saw scream. Immediatly put it on and he loved it. The fact he always thought drew barrymore was the main character was the best reaction :D
Not a massive zombie movie fan cause they can be kinda samey but Train to Busan is easily one of my favourite horror movies. The character development and the prominent focus on class division just elevated it. It was so well done and Gong Yoo is just an incredible actor. I seen that they were making a second one but honestly I’m scared to watch it because the first one was so good.
Just watched it today; because of this list. Very solid movie. For me the theme of a missing father was both relatable and worldwidely universal, too - especially nowadays. Basically cried in the end. Similar theme to 'Interstellar', in that regard.
@@MrTherandomguy42 Yep. But I also adore super obscure indie films. I just have a soft spot for the early 2000s in general haha! Back when The Matrix led to everyone having dark green/blue tinted aesthetics with rock/metal soundtracks lol.
@@MichaelFromTheAttic As for me, I typically don’t watch horror films due to me being sensitive to jump scares, which is also why I can barely play horror games. Legitimate horror films I have seen include…does The Sixth Sense count? I have also seen the terrible and 100% not scary horror film The Bye Bye Man but I watched that as a comedy, tearing it apart with my brothers, had a good time!
@@MrTherandomguy42 The Sixth Sense is a legit horror film. It's just so old that it's not considered scary anymore. When you think about it, you were seeing ghosts and some were mutilated as they were at the time of death. It's also a horror film in the sense that it's the POV of a child who is being told he's crazy and the only one who believes him is his therapist... who seems to be losing power in his own life, so how can he help? It's certainly a horror movie. It's a horror movie that they considered "safe for kids" yet there's a scene where someone explains an area is where "During the Revolutionary War, they would hang traitors here." And you immediately see a family being hung from the rafters... Not really as child friendly as we sell it. Honestly it's... pretty scary because it delves into the psychological aspect. M. Night does a lot of "softcore" horror that doesn't use jumpscares. People are expecting him to keep doing The Sixth Sense when he says he intends to make movies that are like telling a story at bedtime/around a campfire. It doesn't work for all of his movies but I find it does make for creative and uncomfortable feelings.
Dude, A Quiet Place 2 blew #1 out of the water. Just friends, family and my own opinions; but, we were edge of seat. They worked it as both a prequel and sequel and it turned out very smooth which helped build a deeper storyline.
You wouldn't believe the amount of happiness I felt when you placed Scream in S Tier! It's one of my all-time favorites, and not just in the horror genre either. Plus I genuinely feel like all the sequels are good, or at the very least enjoyable in their own way, unlike most horror movie franchises.
That honestly shocked me, but I haven't seen Scream in an extremely long time, to the point I barely even remember it. But I guess it's time for a rewatch. I was very nearly 1:1 with John his tier list, and Scream being the only movie in his S tier I can't remember needs to be fixed.
Bateman from American Psycho is one of my favorite fictional killers, he has that chameleon-like, faceless quality despite being intensely memorable. Really enjoyed the book as well. The fact that it directly quotes from soulless irl advertisements from the time is perfect. The horror feels like it extends beyond the film itself, it really is more satirical as John says. ...Also the "unexpected moment" from Don't Breathe was... definitely something. LOL
One of my absolute favorites is a movie that's a mix of genres, Pan's Labyrinth. Such an excellent film. Beautiful story, incredible special effects and creature design, and genuinely terrifying at moments while just being unsettling at others. I mean, how many movies can you say are a mix of historical drama, fantasy, and horror with an ending that can be interpreted in more than one way? Also, I love the soundtrack
I always remembered as a 5-year-old kid when I wanted a Furby my dad showed me the gremlins and told me that the furbies turn into gremlins when they touch the water. Never wanted a Furby ever in my life again and was shocked when I found out as an adult that the gremlins and furbies aren't related lol
@@SuperMathsBeaver Srsly, furbies kinda suck I guess the furby booms were kind of cool for their time since they worked with an app, but they’d disconnect from it every 5 seconds. And now it’s not even on the app store anymore, ultimately making them as boring as their older versions =V
Oh man I'm so glad you put Scream in S-Tier. I have fallen absolutely in love with the movie and its easily one of my favorite movies of all time. Its actually one of the reasons for why I tried out DBD again half a year ago since I just love Ghostface
50:31 _Blair Witch_ was the first film to coin the _term_ "found footage". However, Dean Alioto's _UFO Abduction_ predates it by 10 years and was so convincing it's passed off as real UFO footage. "The McPhearson tapes" are just the movie with the opening and ending credits removed.
If you're going to split hairs the majority of Cannibal Holocaust is found footage and that predates UFO by almost a decade. You could even make the argument that Peeping Tom is a found footage movie and that came out in the 1960s
@@dullroar2673 Who's "splitting hairs"? John specifically brought up the topic of found footage movies that predate Blair Witch. I pointed out that Blair Witch coined the term, but the earlier UFO Abduction is filmed in the same style. Pointing out earlier movies thah may or may not be found footage only supports both of our points, so why are you acting like this is some sort of gotcha?
I really liked the Autopsy of Jane Doe. It had a lot of twists and the ending was surprising and I think compared to a lot of modern horror movies it did a lot of new things. It was a crime you put Nightmare on Elm Street on B-tier though, but Evil Dead on A tier is good. Embarrassing fact about me, none of the Final Destination movies scared me except for the one about Rollercoaster. It made me go from someone who loved amusement parks to someone who became a lot more wary and slightly scared. It’s very embarrassing. IT (the original) also scared me to death and also genuinely made me terrified of clown. I watched it as a young girl (same age as the kids in the movie) and it was the middle of a blizzard that left us stranded in our home for days. I had to sleep with my mom for a week to get back to normal. It’s insane to think how much I scarred myself as a child with watching things like Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, IT, and now anything involved with horror or the supernatural are the things I love today. Silence of the Lambs is one of my favorite movies, but I have to reflect on the intense transphobia in it today. While the movie does a great job at addressing sexism, it ignores the fear of the LGBTQ+ that it stirs up which might have contributed to a lot of hate and stigma that the community faced in the 90s all the way to today. There is a conversation that should be had about it that I think people avoid because of what a great and iconic movie Silence of the Lambs is. The Shining is again, one of my favorite movies of all time. I once heard a theory about the Shining, both the book and the movie. King and Kubrick had two different visions with the Shining (which is why King hates it so much and has endorsed other Shining adaptions) and it’s because in the book, the hotel is actually haunted, but in the movie, Jack is mentally breaking down and everything is in his head. Obviously the sequel, Doctor Sleep, shoots this whole idea down, but again you have to look at the two examples in a bubble and Kubrick’s ‘The Shining’ in it’s own universe. How he treated Shelly Duval was completely disgusting though, but I’m trying to judge the art. Psycho was the first movie to show a flushing toilet, which almost got the movie banned in America. The reason Albert Hitchcock insisted on keeping it in the movie was because it would unnerve the audiences so much, that it would get them on edge for what would happen next in the movie and they wouldn’t know what could possibly happen next. The first time I saw Psycho I was like eight years old. Sorry I went on a huge rant, I literally just meant to comment on Autopsy of Jane Doe but I was writing as I was watching and I got carried away as you kept talking.
Ditto. He makes tier lists entertaining even if you're not particularly interested in the thing he's ranking. I haven't played a Pokemon game in 20 years and his tier list on that was great
I didn't think I've watched that many horror movies, so it was a revelation to me when I knew and watched almost all the movies in this tier list and how I agreed with 95% of your tier choices! This was very fun indeed. [add] If you liked Train to Busan, check out The Host too. Very well made -- same guy who directed Snowpiercer, Okja and (everybody now knows) Parasite.
This just made me want to see you make a secondary movie channel even more now, I feel like you would provide some great insights and entertainment as to what makes great movies great and trash movies, well, trash. Kind of like a movie review channel in a sense, which I know probably won't happen with as much as you have with your main channel and your main focus being on playing horror games but it doesn't hurt to dream!
Exorcism Of Emily Rose is definitely not a typical exorcism movie, its a court drama mixed with horror, never seen anything like it. I'd definitely say watch it again. The creepy aspect you're remembering is, if you wake up at 3 am and smell something burning, its a demonic presence. I took that with me for a long time too, saw it when I was still relatively religious so got me good. I'd also personally say Lady In The Water is when Shyamalan went downhill, then The Happening confirmed it for sure lol. Meme status achieved heavily with that one.
I actually used one of those free trials through another video's sponsor, and I was pretty disappointed with their selection. It's almost all decades old or obscure stuff, and TV movies. That being said, if there's anything they have that you REALLY want to watch, you can absolutely do it in a month. Note: Don't know if they still do it but they used to offer you ANOTHER free month if you tried cancelling your free trial. Really.
For people who dislike or isn't interested in The Babadook, watch The Open Book scene. I will kid you not...still to this very day, while watching the scene on TH-cam, I still get the chills and goosebumps from the atmospheric tone & music. IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, MIGHT I ADD! Very powerful scene as to why I hold it up as one of my All-Time Favorite Horror Films.
I grew up watching the Saw series, I used to watch it for the torture porn originally. I rewatched it all as an adult and the story is actually amazing and consistent in my opinion. Definitely S tier for me
Did you ever watch Martyrs (2008)? I think it's a modern classic when it comes to horror, but not that many people have watched it due it being a French movie.
God Martyrs. I still have PTSD. It's in my list of movies you can watch only once (another one is Buried). French horror is crazy (Frontiers, anyone?), John should definitely have a look. I mean he probably did, but for the sake of NA audience he focused on more famous movies. Also he did not make the list so there is that.
@@todeskult2818 as much as i found a Serbian movie objectively disturbing, martyrs scarred me and I don't dare to watch it again. I guess at a certain level it's a matter of personal demons.
@@blackest3314 my uncle gave me a DVD of Buried for Christmas once, knowing I liked dark things. My partner and I watched it later that week and we bloody loved it, started a bit of a Reynolds craze between us... I had only seen him in Definitely Maybe before (completely different genre btw) and was just blown away by how brilliantly he performed in this gritty story, keeping us captivated the whole time - definitely kickstarted a lot of discussion about how horrible being in his particular situation in this film would be!
I have to watch hereditary now, if only because Toni Colette. I feel like the one element of Halloween, at least the original, that makes it so amazing is the tense atmosphere. It's a slasher but not fully, which is the appeal. I would classify Halloween and Silence of the Lambs to be S tier, personally, but I agree with most of this list, ironically. I think it's Final Destination 2 that had the semi truck with a bunch of either tree trunks or pipes on the back that inevitably kill the person - that always stuck with me and I'm still haunted by it and can't drive behind those trucks to this day. That doesn't make it a good film but damn the impact is real. Does Shudder have all of these on it? Ps, I'm only 1 hour and 5 mins in, but haven't seen... I think it was called House of Wax, but it had a scene where someone was trapped under a sewer grate and they put their fingers between the grate to alert their friend who was with that killer above them... and the killer cut off the fingers with a set of wire cutters and that has always stuck with me to this day too.
Just for putting The Thing in the S tier you already deserved a second Like John. Arguably a piece of art of the horror and sci fi genre, very underrated back then, but aged incredibly good.
The scene from Get Out that I remember most vividly and made me rewind to watch it again was (not to give too many spoilers) the phone call scene. The actress in that scene was sooo good.
For anyone interested. Nightmare on Elm Street 3 is the best of the franchise. It actually has a plot that makes sense but still keeps the traditional weirdness. Give it a shot!
If another TH-camr did an hour and a half video talking about horror movies, I'd be bored as all hell, not with John. It's nice to see someone with a great knowledge of horror movies/games that isn't pretentious and sees a wide range of horror not just the main stream. I loved this John! By the way John, I think you'd really enjoy the original Japanese movies, there are A LOT of Asian horror movies that are great, particularly from Japan, China (my favourite from China has to be Dumplings) and Thailand (4bia and it's sequel is great).
John should definitely check some not-american horrors. The original Grudge is way better than the remake. I liked the netflix series, not very scary but so damn creepy and unsettling. Shutter is another good thai movie and I also loved The Eye (from Hong Kong, not the awful remake with Jessica Alba).
I knew what to expect right off the bat with Dumplings just from reading the DVD jacket, and oddly while watching it I didn't feel "horrified" in the normal sense. But boy howdy it seriously fucked me up in ways I didn't expect for over a week after finishing it. Big agree on seeing the Japanese originals for lots of horror movies. Something about the "lower" production look and the uncanny valley dialed up to eleven. Less flash and bang. More lasting scares.
My favorite is the Thing because in all the gore in that movie, they managed to make regular looking people terrifying. Any monster that can mimick people you know is just terrifying to me. The indie horror game “Do you Copy?” Game me chills.
I do not watch a lot of horror films but my favorite ones are Predator, A Nightmare on Elm Street (And Dream Warriors), the Final Destination franchise (Except for the 4th one) and Train to Busan.
Hey John, loved the video! Have you ever seen "As Above So Below"? If so, I would love to know where you would place it on your tier list. Much love and keep up the good work!
Love this type of content John! Well, any type of content from you is good. And Scream definitely deserves the S tier. One of the few horror movie franchises where the sequels don't drastically drop in quality imo
I didn't think you wouldn't put the thing in S-tier, but also relieved you did. My all time favorite horror movie (with the shining and 28 days later as close 2bd/3rd), with the special effects still looking good nowadays.
I mean, the only one I didnt agree with was Silence of the Lambs. That is one of my all time favorite movies. It's absolutely S tier for me, almost for Anthony Hopkins' performance alone.
Pretty spot on with your list tbh John. I agree with It Follows and The Village being underrated. The only thing I’d change is that I’d put Hills Have Eyes 1 in B tier, there’s just something about that movie I like
Yeah I agree pretty much everywhere and totally agree that The Village gets waaaaay to much shit for what is a reasonably solid movie, like John said I think Lady in the Water is where he started to go down hill. The only thing I'd change is I'd put The Descent in either A or maybe even S-tier (as long as we're talking the original UK ending and not the butchering it got in the US just to make a sequel), I'd put Hush higher as well but that's probably because several of my family members are deaf so it scared the shit out of them and thus me in turn.
This is a great video! My parents raised me on horror movies and books so luckily I've seen all the classics but there are a few newer movies on here that I haven't seen that I will definitely have to check out. Thanks John!
Definitely recommend rewatching Hush! I was very very impressed with it. It's not an exceedingly scary movie, but the tension is killer! Breaks my heart that you put The Conjuring - my favorite horror film - in B Tier. But I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it regardless!
Loved Hush and in general everything directed by Flanagan. Also I think Kate Siegel is a very good actress (she also looks a lot like Angelina Jolie ahah)
Honestly the main reason I have Conjuring in B tier is because I find exorcism films kind of exhausting. Once you get to a certain point in the movie, every single cast member is screaming every line, the possessed person is looking grosser and grosser every scene... it's numbing to me after a bit. But like I said, I really appreciate Wan's sense of drama in those films, the direction is really good
@@JohnWolfe That's understandable. I personally found The Conjuring just had a perfect buildup to payoff, and the assault on the senses that you describe as exhausting makes it feel impactful to me, sort of like how you say the film does a good job of making the stakes feel really high. The soundtrack and growing tension as a result of Wan's direction lends a great deal to the perfect amount of buildup to a huge finale. Loved the vid, thanks for the content! (And John Carpenter's The Thing should totally be studied as a whole course on how to do horror films)
I agree completely ! I really liked Hush personally. In my opinion, the fact that she's deaf really added to the tension, it made her even more vulnerable. She is also one of the rare protagonist in horror movies (that I've seen) that is actually smart, very resourceful. I'm a fan of the work of Flanagan and Spiegel so maybe I'm biased lol. Loved their work on The Haunting of Hill House too. Not related at all but I wish John would have reacted to Sinister. I'd love to hear his opinion on it.
I watched Hush because everyone was raving about it. I was pretty unimpressed to be honest. I remember there was this bath scene towards the end of the movie and I couldn't stop laughing. Think it played too much on the cliche home alone in the middle of nowhere scenario. Also I would put the exorcism of Emily rose ahead of the conjuring, based on that girls acting alone, which made that movie so popular.
I love that you defended The Conjuring films because those are two of my favorites of all time. Spot on analysis of the directing and payoff. (I do love Annabelle: Creation as a spinoff, and The Nun has a certain charm even if it's lacking in story 😅)
I appreciate your comments about The Shining being 'not for everyone' even though you put it in S Tier. As a horror movie fan it's one of those movies I always feel like I *should* enjoy it, but I just don't. The long quiet stretches to build tension and the very slow buildup just make it so by the time the ending rolls around I'm already over it. I definitely understand why other people like it, but it doesn't do it for me. Your list seems really consistent and well-reasoned, thanks for sharing!
Officially the only tier list I've ever watched from beginning to end, and couldn't be more satisfied through and through. I wasn't allowed to watch horror films all growing up but i love your content and extremely respect your opinions on all the games I've watched you play. As an adult I've enjoyed horror films but never knew where to start, or which were the good ones. Quite a few movies im definitely going to make an effort to see now thanks to you.
The Village was marketed as a horror film when it really was a love story with a thrilling mystery attached. I didn't know about the twist when I first saw it, and I initially watched it with people who HATED the twist, but I loved it. I thought it was a great movie with a great twist. But I can see how people who went into it looking to see people get torn up by old timey monsters would be disappointed. I'm so happy to finally see someone who enjoyed it like I did, though. Much respect.
I can’t tell you how happy I was when John put scream in S tier. And honestly I agreed with almost all of his rankings, for the movies I’ve seen at least.
Totally random: but this video popped up in my algorithm and my mind randomly thought “I wonder what HarshlyCritical is up to”. Searched that name and it’s this channel haha I haven’t watched you since like 2013! Glad to have made it back!
This was so much fun to watch! I have been a huge horror film fan since I was a little girl. My dad would sneak me downstairs to watch horror movies late at night with him so I've seen all the movies on your list and it was fun to agree and argue with you on your list.
I’m excited to see you posted this because I’ve been binging horror movie tier videos and now one of my favorite horror let’s players is posting one? Sign me up
I really love that you also like the movie it follows. I was actually holding out hope that it was going to be on this list to see what your opinion on it was. To be honest I haven’t been creeped out by a movie like it follows in a long time.
Solid list, well done. John Carpenter’s The Thing is as close as you can get to a perfect horror movie. There are so many subtle details that just aren’t found in modern horror films. Besides all of the obvious components that make this a great film (atmosphere, tension, soundtrack, practical effects), the piece that really gets me is that we know NOTHING about the crew members, other than their jobs at the station (family back home, relationships, hobbies, personal beliefs). It’s part of the overarching theme that we truly don’t know who the characters are and they don’t really know each other well enough to decide who might be the imposter. It keeps everything calculated, analytical, and scientific as the crew tries to figure out who is infected and leads up to the perfectly executed blood test scene. Man, what a great movie.
John THANK YOU for rating The Village!! i honestly adore that movie, it might not be specifically a “horror” but I genuinely think it was tastefully done, the twist was decent, the acting is great and the characters are so emotional and intense, and the SOUNDTRACK? oh my god! insanely underrated, dude! and honestly i do think the “creature” design was terrifying, and the way they portray it through the movie is pretty effective not saying it’s a perfect film but i find it so charming, if a little bit campy - it and Signs are two of my favourites to be honest Ps. Rear Window is amazing, and also, if you haven’t seen Rope by Hitchcock, but you like a film that all plays out in one place (though it’s a little like a theatre anti-murder mystery)? [chefs kiss]
I just watched Rope recently, like a few months ago, and was blown away by how tense I felt the whole movie! Glad to see someone else watch and enjoy it too! Rear Window is still my favorite tho!!
I really appreciate these non-game videos you make even if they aren't games. Just seeing you have a good time looking through these movies and talking about them is really cool, plus I get to live vicariously through the experience as well, thanks for making this content!
Would’ve really liked to see where you’d rank ‘Christine’, gotta love that blood thirsty classic ‘58 Plymouth Fury. Absolutely love that film. 💕 Was honestly a bit taken a back that it wasn’t on here.
Big horror fan too and It Follows especially is very underrated and deserves to be better known. The concept alone is just so simple and effective but the atmosphere of the whole thing is so eerie and unsettling - it just adds so much to it.
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Ghost face getting his ass kicked to me made him a little more scary than the indestructible other slashers. It made seem like you could possibly win, but he always seem to be just a little bit more ahead. Fighting an unkillable nightmare lich, yeah you're dead. Fight a person who actually gets hurt when you punch him, you have a chance. The stakes are higher if you have a chance.
It gives false hope. It's also realistic.
@@helloworld2784 exactly, I’ve never been scared of Freddy for example, because it’s almost a lose scenario. While with Ghostface, it’s the idea of false hope as you mentioned that creates a more realistic yet tension-filled antagonist
Love your take on this. Yeah that is a really interesting way to think about it
I disagree only because realistically, all you'd need is a gun and Ghost Face is now the hunted
@@RatchetandSly that's the point
Wow I made this horror movie template! The films you picked looked so similar to my own list when I realised that you used the one I created. I don’t wanna be that guy who makes a big deal out of nothing but man it felt really good to see you consider my template half decent and get some use out of it. It feels like I’ve somewhat contributed to the horror community which is cool. I’m the same with Alien at S Tier - I also put The Witch there and Halloween. I really really like Hellraiser so that’s A tier for me. I will have to watch The Thing again as I put it in A tier but after hearing your enthusiastic praise for it I guess it’s time for a rewatch. Fun Fact: I put Twilight Breaking Dawn in the template as a meme due to that horrifying cgi baby! More terrifying than any horror movie I’ve seen.
Thanks for taking the time to make it!
This is very wholesome
Link?
No cemetery man or brain dead hurts my soul
where is friday the 13th
1 full hour of just John listing horror movies?!
time to binge watch what he thinks is superior.
The fact that Rob Bottin was 22 years old when he made the prosthetics for The Thing blows my mind. I’m around 20 and I can barely tie my shoelaces properly
@@ribbon9110 it's a joke dude😂
@@ribbon9110 who shit in yo cereal bro?😂
@Ribbon “didn’t ask” is such a stupid response, like yeah, you didn’t ask, but the comment section is public, people can reply to you.
@@ribbon9110 I appreciate when people are called out on their bullshit that they always go after small things like my name or my pfp.
@@ribbon9110 I’m not a fan of talking to people like you, so I’m gonna stop. Seeya!
I feel like a Horror movie review format would be awesome with John doing it. That dry sense of humor of his would be a prefect fit for it.
Yeah I'd watch John be a horror film critic of new movies
Maybe it would be best if he did something like what are the best horror movies he's seen each month so he doesn't have to make a whole vid about an specific film.
I would love to know where these would have landed on your list:
-Candyman
-The Taking of Deborah Morgan
-Sinister
-The Hitcher (1986)
-Bram Stoker's Dracula
Also, I was surprised by how similarly I would have rated everything (though I would have given out S's a little more generously). Also also, I'm happy to see you defend The Village. I had the same initial reaction, but have since watched it many times, and it's one of my top movies, regardless of horror.
Sinister is seriously one of the best horror movies, in my opinion. I wasn't super into the sequel but man, I loved the first one. The Taking a Deborah Morgan was surprisingly pretty good as well!
@@lacymiri Sinister 1 is definitely better, and Deborah Morgan took me by surprise
@@antviper135 It’s the Taking of Deborah Logan. Not Morgan.
@@astrea4020 They must have been thinking about Dexter hahaha.
My opinion: If you like Bram Stoker's Dracula for aesthetic and horror of it,it is fine. It is a beautiful movie to look at,but as a fan of the original Dracula novel I'd put it into tier F just because the movie bastardizing all the hard work Stoker put in the novel which granted him so many stink eyes from the victorian society enraged me. I almost ruptured an artery while watching it,it made me so mad. Dracula is not supposed to be a "straight historical romance" or beautiful. It is an allegory of homosexuality in Victorian Era. I know it is an adaptation but it's success among the mainstream viewers completely wrecked the image of Dracula in public mind,now everyone thinks Dracula was in love with Mina and "died for her" instead of him being in love with Jonathan and it being a hazard to the prim and proper victorian society.
*John Carpenter's The Thing has been my all time favourite horror movie since I was a kid and still is*
Near perfect film.
You can find out who is infected if you look hard enough in the background for missing coats and people
@@sxb2andtheotherguys Yes and no idiot characters tripping over a fucking mosquito
I loved Hush. I think it’s mostly because I’ve had very poor hearing my entire life; so not noticing if someone is in my house, and themes similar to that, terrify me. I also really liked that there are moments in the movie where YOU can’t hear anything either, just like the main character. Then again, I am biased because of my own fears and experiences :)
I loved hush too, It was well made. Definitely not a low-budget movie.
It made me very happy to hear you defend 'It Follows' and put it in A tier, lol. For the same reasons, I really like that movie and it had some genuinely unnerving scenes without needing to make jumpscares out of them. Like sure, the idea of "STD killer ghost" sounds dumb on a surface level, but what it does with the concept, really works.
Yes, I liked that movie too. It was so creepy imo!
I'm happy about that too, I've heard a surprising amount of people talking about how dumb and not scary It Follows is. I found it absolutely one of the scariest movies I've seen in recent years, the unstoppable, eternal stalker idea is haunting to me.
It's also a coming of age movie, and you can't really tell wich era the movie is in there are lots of things from different generations, it's crazy when you start noticing it, like the tube tv but also de weird kindle the girl have, old cars but modern houses, everytime I watch I notice something neat
I think my only problem with that movie is them flubbing the ending (at the pool). The rest of it is great, though, and the ending is even kinda ambiguous. I love how you never know if it's a just a person walking towards the camera, or IT just calmly walking to the protagonists (apart from the scenes where it's clearly IT). Also I just about shit myself in that one scene where it stepped out of the shadows after the heroine's mom or sister opened her bedroom door. Okay, I'm being hyperbolic, but the scene I'm referring to was an actual full body shudder + recoil from the screen moment.
@@TripleB87 yeah the ending I think is the weakest part, with the pool scene.
Also big agree. That doorway scene also had me shit my pants, it was done so well lol
Hereditary is a masterpiece and it hit even harder because my baby sister had just passed away right before I watched it. Great list John !
My condolences, I have a younger sister who was about the same age as charlie in that movie so it was a rough watch but I can’t imagine how it was for you
Dead By Daylight won't want the controversy with Jeepers Creepers, considering its director was convicted for raping his debut feature film's lead actor, Nathan Forrest Winters, who was 12.
I have no clue why Salva was not blacklisted as soon as the accusations hit, and so far as I know Winters is still calling for a boycott of all Salva films to this day.
great point! i'd forgotten that that pos was involved with jeepers.
It’s a damn shame something so great is attached to someone so horrible.
I found out about this tidbit about JC from Dead Meat (Dead Meat refuses to make a kill count of Jeepers Creepers for this reason) and rewatching some parts of the movie with this knowledge made some parts of the movie hit differently
Bless you for spreading the word - I was going to comment myself but then saw yours and was like "DracoHandsome doing the Horror Lord's work"
The sad part is that Salva no longer has any involvement in Jeepers Creepers, and I believe even finally lost the rights to it or had them bought out from under him, but the series has been so tainted because of Salva that it will probably never recover.
Honestly, I thought Dead Silence is scarier than it sometimes gets credit for. James Wan included some effective visuals that still creep me out today, like the unnaturally gaping mouths of the victims after Mary Shaw visits them.
I second that!
I find it funny that he admits to liking some good, fun camp in certain horror films but then puts Dead Silence in F Tier.
When you watch Dead Silence, you are there for a campy good time. Sure it has jumpscares, but the plot is literally about a ghost that rips your tongue out if you scream, I mean come on. And I fucking LOATHE jumpscares.
Dead silence is the scariest movie i've ever seen and I dont know why... Only movie that I couldn't sleep after
Dead silence was a movie I passed over for years until a friend made me watch it - I’m glad he did. It was marketed as 2000s schlock horror but it’s so much more effective than that. James Wan really does have a knack for the unsettling, and I appreciate that he brought back the notion that the protagonist doesn’t have to “win” in horror moviesp
The dummy was creepy as hell but was terrible. My mom showed me it when I was 4, I don’t know why but all I can say is that sucked
Solid list. Toss up between Alien and The Shining as favorite horror movies for me. I'd probably have The Witch, Hereditary, and Midsommar in S tier but then I am a sucker for folk horror and the occult. Would be cool to see a Junji Ito list or general horror book list someday.
Junji ito is God tier in my opinion, he comes up with such original and generally disturbing ideas. Just refreshing to see in the oversaturated horror market. I too would enjoy a tier list involving him.
He did a Junji Ito list on Twitter pretty recently
Big fan of ari aster I see me too 😆
I actually did an (English translated Viz hardcore) Junji Ito tier list on Twitter recently! twitter.com/JohnWolfeYT/status/1418282512686718980?s=20
@@JohnWolfe that's the link I needed. Thank you so much!
Thanks for sticking up for the Babadook. I love that movie, for both how creepy the Babadook itself is, and the deeper aspects to the film. It's really masterful, even if there's one specific part during the climax that uses extremely common, incredibly overused stock audio that very nearly ripped me out of the moment (completely saved by Essie Davis' performance). It took a rewatch to fully understand it, but it was so worth it. The filmmakers are genius. I mean, c'mon, they flip the script on the kid so suddenly that you don't even notice that you go from absolutely hating his guts (yeah, I don't blame her, he's a fucking nightmare) to really feeling bad for him, and even for how you felt as he was obviously struggling with the fact that his only remaining parent is going insane in front of him.
The only part I don't like about that movie is the kid, he annoyed tf out of me to the point where I didn't care if he died or not 😂 his acting wasn't great at moments either.
“Elevated” horror is probably my least favorite I really didn’t like this movie unfortunately
I recently watched Perfect Blue for the first time and would easily put it in S tier.
Perfect Blue is amazing.
@@GreedAndSelfishness I had the pleasure to watch it on the big screen on Friday night. My local cinema is doing special late night showings of cult classic horror films. Next week is Tetsuo the Iron Man, exicted to go see it!
My first viewing of PB on the big screen was absolutely phenomenal. I loved every second of the anxiety ridden masterpiece.
I agree. I watched it a second time last week and changed my 4.5 rating into a 5. I absolutely love that movie together with the very similar Black Swan.
Perfect Blue is excellent 💙 I love Satoshi Kon's films.
I liked it, but not nearly as much as other people do…. I must be missing something?
I'm probably not the first person to mention this, but I highly recommend watching all the asian original versions of the horror movies. They are so much better in building the creepy atmosphere. I remember watching some of them in their original form and then in the adapted one right after and they didn't even feel like the same movie, even when the story was technically the same.
Also, I don't think this list included them, but I'd recommend Shutter, Dark Water and Pon/Phone in their original asian version.
The first time I watched Ju-on I was legitimately scared, even after seeing the grudge. There’s something about the atmosphere they slowly build, the nihilism of it all, the dread and eventual payoff. So good.
okay, so as a big horror enthusiast, Ringu (and the other following) and ju-on the grudge are so much better than the Americanized version(s)! like the movie Quarantine. The original spanish version REC is also better, as well as the second one.
Watching you ranking these makes me want to take a membership from Shudder again...
This. I also commented on both ju-on and REC, both amazing movies butchered in the remakes. REC in particularly, they decided to do a shot-to-shot remake and change the ending which is the best part. Unbelievable. I think john would definitely enjoy non-american horror, although he probably focused on NA movies for his audience. Also he didn't make this list, so there is that.
I personally enjoyed the American remake of The Ring more than Ringu, which surprised me because I rarely feel that way. But I definitely agree with REC being better than Quarantine.
REC is 1000x better than Quarantine!
I prefer the American version
@@AntonConstanti Ring is probably one of the best j-horror remake. Same cannot be said for the grudge. I mean it's okkkkk, but the original is so much creepier and dreadful (in a good way).
Really appreciate the spoiler-free synopsis of each movie, I have only recently started watching horror so this gives me plenty to add to my " watch list", thank you :)
"If you wake up in the middle of the night and smell burning toast that means evil spirits are about"
Actually that's a stroke lmao
Yeah I was a bit confused about that one. Like, it's already a scary thing! Isn't the point to use something innocuous and make it unexpectedly scary via association? It's like saying, "If you wake up and see that your house is on fire, that means there are spirits"
Unless the evil spirits are your brain having a stroke
If you wake up, and your toilet is clogged, it means there is a ghost nearby
Ikr I was like "No ma'am you're having a stroke you need medical attention not exorcism"
@@khaosctrlb47 oh fuck
1. Alien
2. The Thing
3. The Shining
For me those three are the three top legendary horror movies. There are some other good ones, really good ones even. But those 3 are just masterpieces.
The Exorcist? Most disturbing and creepiest horror movie by far
Scream is absolutely one of my favorite movies of all time, so seeing someone agree that it's S tier material makes me so happy
same!
FR
EXACTLY it’s such a good movie i love it so much
Earlier this year my step father (who loves horror movies) mentioned he never saw scream. Immediatly put it on and he loved it. The fact he always thought drew barrymore was the main character was the best reaction :D
100% agree. It deserves S tier.
Not a massive zombie movie fan cause they can be kinda samey but Train to Busan is easily one of my favourite horror movies. The character development and the prominent focus on class division just elevated it. It was so well done and Gong Yoo is just an incredible actor. I seen that they were making a second one but honestly I’m scared to watch it because the first one was so good.
Just watched it today; because of this list. Very solid movie. For me the theme of a missing father was both relatable and worldwidely universal, too - especially nowadays. Basically cried in the end. Similar theme to 'Interstellar', in that regard.
I freaking love Dead Silence 😂It's like every early 2000's horror movie cliche jam packed into one film.
That may be why John didn’t like it.
@@MrTherandomguy42 Yep. But I also adore super obscure indie films. I just have a soft spot for the early 2000s in general haha! Back when The Matrix led to everyone having dark green/blue tinted aesthetics with rock/metal soundtracks lol.
@@MichaelFromTheAttic As for me, I typically don’t watch horror films due to me being sensitive to jump scares, which is also why I can barely play horror games. Legitimate horror films I have seen include…does The Sixth Sense count? I have also seen the terrible and 100% not scary horror film The Bye Bye Man but I watched that as a comedy, tearing it apart with my brothers, had a good time!
@@MrTherandomguy42 The Bye Bye Man is the ultimate "laugh with your buds" horror movie 😅
@@MrTherandomguy42 The Sixth Sense is a legit horror film. It's just so old that it's not considered scary anymore. When you think about it, you were seeing ghosts and some were mutilated as they were at the time of death. It's also a horror film in the sense that it's the POV of a child who is being told he's crazy and the only one who believes him is his therapist... who seems to be losing power in his own life, so how can he help?
It's certainly a horror movie. It's a horror movie that they considered "safe for kids" yet there's a scene where someone explains an area is where "During the Revolutionary War, they would hang traitors here." And you immediately see a family being hung from the rafters... Not really as child friendly as we sell it.
Honestly it's... pretty scary because it delves into the psychological aspect.
M. Night does a lot of "softcore" horror that doesn't use jumpscares. People are expecting him to keep doing The Sixth Sense when he says he intends to make movies that are like telling a story at bedtime/around a campfire. It doesn't work for all of his movies but I find it does make for creative and uncomfortable feelings.
Dude, A Quiet Place 2 blew #1 out of the water. Just friends, family and my own opinions; but, we were edge of seat. They worked it as both a prequel and sequel and it turned out very smooth which helped build a deeper storyline.
Imagine John playing the THE THING old game. 🥰
Love that game♡
I didn't even know there was a game for it!!
You wouldn't believe the amount of happiness I felt when you placed Scream in S Tier! It's one of my all-time favorites, and not just in the horror genre either. Plus I genuinely feel like all the sequels are good, or at the very least enjoyable in their own way, unlike most horror movie franchises.
That honestly shocked me, but I haven't seen Scream in an extremely long time, to the point I barely even remember it. But I guess it's time for a rewatch. I was very nearly 1:1 with John his tier list, and Scream being the only movie in his S tier I can't remember needs to be fixed.
Bateman from American Psycho is one of my favorite fictional killers, he has that chameleon-like, faceless quality despite being intensely memorable. Really enjoyed the book as well. The fact that it directly quotes from soulless irl advertisements from the time is perfect. The horror feels like it extends beyond the film itself, it really is more satirical as John says.
...Also the "unexpected moment" from Don't Breathe was... definitely something. LOL
Considering John's background in advertising, it makes complete sense that he'd appreciate the commercial satire of American Psycho! 😂
I wouldn’t really call it horror. Just a great movie overall
One of my absolute favorites is a movie that's a mix of genres, Pan's Labyrinth. Such an excellent film. Beautiful story, incredible special effects and creature design, and genuinely terrifying at moments while just being unsettling at others. I mean, how many movies can you say are a mix of historical drama, fantasy, and horror with an ending that can be interpreted in more than one way? Also, I love the soundtrack
I always remembered as a 5-year-old kid when I wanted a Furby my dad showed me the gremlins and told me that the furbies turn into gremlins when they touch the water. Never wanted a Furby ever in my life again and was shocked when I found out as an adult that the gremlins and furbies aren't related lol
Your dad is an evil genius who saved himself a lot of money XD
@@SuperMathsBeaver
Srsly, furbies kinda suck
I guess the furby booms were kind of cool for their time since they worked with an app, but they’d disconnect from it every 5 seconds. And now it’s not even on the app store anymore, ultimately making them as boring as their older versions =V
I definitely have Furbyphobia I hate those things
Oh man I'm so glad you put Scream in S-Tier. I have fallen absolutely in love with the movie and its easily one of my favorite movies of all time. Its actually one of the reasons for why I tried out DBD again half a year ago since I just love Ghostface
50:31 _Blair Witch_ was the first film to coin the _term_ "found footage". However, Dean Alioto's _UFO Abduction_ predates it by 10 years and was so convincing it's passed off as real UFO footage. "The McPhearson tapes" are just the movie with the opening and ending credits removed.
Is that one the one about the family gathered for some holiday and they get slowly abducted by aliens? Cause I love it.
If you're going to split hairs the majority of Cannibal Holocaust is found footage and that predates UFO by almost a decade. You could even make the argument that Peeping Tom is a found footage movie and that came out in the 1960s
@@dullroar2673 Who's "splitting hairs"? John specifically brought up the topic of found footage movies that predate Blair Witch. I pointed out that Blair Witch coined the term, but the earlier UFO Abduction is filmed in the same style.
Pointing out earlier movies thah may or may not be found footage only supports both of our points, so why are you acting like this is some sort of gotcha?
@@DracoHandsome lmao bro you okay
@@VeryNiceDogs59 Do you understand English?
I really liked the Autopsy of Jane Doe. It had a lot of twists and the ending was surprising and I think compared to a lot of modern horror movies it did a lot of new things.
It was a crime you put Nightmare on Elm Street on B-tier though, but Evil Dead on A tier is good.
Embarrassing fact about me, none of the Final Destination movies scared me except for the one about Rollercoaster. It made me go from someone who loved amusement parks to someone who became a lot more wary and slightly scared. It’s very embarrassing.
IT (the original) also scared me to death and also genuinely made me terrified of clown. I watched it as a young girl (same age as the kids in the movie) and it was the middle of a blizzard that left us stranded in our home for days. I had to sleep with my mom for a week to get back to normal.
It’s insane to think how much I scarred myself as a child with watching things like Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, IT, and now anything involved with horror or the supernatural are the things I love today.
Silence of the Lambs is one of my favorite movies, but I have to reflect on the intense transphobia in it today. While the movie does a great job at addressing sexism, it ignores the fear of the LGBTQ+ that it stirs up which might have contributed to a lot of hate and stigma that the community faced in the 90s all the way to today. There is a conversation that should be had about it that I think people avoid because of what a great and iconic movie Silence of the Lambs is.
The Shining is again, one of my favorite movies of all time. I once heard a theory about the Shining, both the book and the movie. King and Kubrick had two different visions with the Shining (which is why King hates it so much and has endorsed other Shining adaptions) and it’s because in the book, the hotel is actually haunted, but in the movie, Jack is mentally breaking down and everything is in his head. Obviously the sequel, Doctor Sleep, shoots this whole idea down, but again you have to look at the two examples in a bubble and Kubrick’s ‘The Shining’ in it’s own universe. How he treated Shelly Duval was completely disgusting though, but I’m trying to judge the art.
Psycho was the first movie to show a flushing toilet, which almost got the movie banned in America. The reason Albert Hitchcock insisted on keeping it in the movie was because it would unnerve the audiences so much, that it would get them on edge for what would happen next in the movie and they wouldn’t know what could possibly happen next. The first time I saw Psycho I was like eight years old.
Sorry I went on a huge rant, I literally just meant to comment on Autopsy of Jane Doe but I was writing as I was watching and I got carried away as you kept talking.
I wholeheartedly trust John's horror opinions
Yeah same here
Horrorheartedly
@@TheReZisTLust I wanna edit my comment now haha
@@Divya_115 don't. Its too late
I know and I'm glad we have an extremely similar list and opinion!
"I cant think of any other zombie movies with a societal message like Train To Busan"
Every Romero zombie movie: Am I a joke to you?
Always love johns tier list videos happy he is doing more of them
Ditto. He makes tier lists entertaining even if you're not particularly interested in the thing he's ranking. I haven't played a Pokemon game in 20 years and his tier list on that was great
Oh, i didn't know he had others! I'll go a-lookin'
I didn't think I've watched that many horror movies, so it was a revelation to me when I knew and watched almost all the movies in this tier list and how I agreed with 95% of your tier choices! This was very fun indeed.
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If you liked Train to Busan, check out The Host too. Very well made -- same guy who directed Snowpiercer, Okja and (everybody now knows) Parasite.
Bong Joon-Ho fans here, thank you !
This just made me want to see you make a secondary movie channel even more now, I feel like you would provide some great insights and entertainment as to what makes great movies great and trash movies, well, trash. Kind of like a movie review channel in a sense, which I know probably won't happen with as much as you have with your main channel and your main focus being on playing horror games but it doesn't hurt to dream!
I’m so glad you have Silence of the Lambs as an A tier movie, one of my favorites, absolutely rocks my socks
Hell yeah. I'm here for John's tier list. I've always been curious about his tastes in horror movies.
*_FACE ZOOMS IN_*
"Who the dummy Now???"
* Man Screams *
Dead Silence is, indeed, a joke.
Shudder is great! Been watching a movie a month on it and really enjoying it so far!
Thanks John!
Exorcism Of Emily Rose is definitely not a typical exorcism movie, its a court drama mixed with horror, never seen anything like it. I'd definitely say watch it again. The creepy aspect you're remembering is, if you wake up at 3 am and smell something burning, its a demonic presence. I took that with me for a long time too, saw it when I was still relatively religious so got me good.
I'd also personally say Lady In The Water is when Shyamalan went downhill, then The Happening confirmed it for sure lol. Meme status achieved heavily with that one.
You know it’s gonna be a really good video if it’s sponsored by shudder
I actually used one of those free trials through another video's sponsor, and I was pretty disappointed with their selection. It's almost all decades old or obscure stuff, and TV movies. That being said, if there's anything they have that you REALLY want to watch, you can absolutely do it in a month.
Note: Don't know if they still do it but they used to offer you ANOTHER free month if you tried cancelling your free trial. Really.
I started out a fan of shudder but after awhile of only able to watch it on mobile (there wasnt an app for the playstation) it got annoying.
I'm so glad you brought up what happened to Shelley. She lives in the mountains and is pretty secluded because of what kubrik did to her.
For people who dislike or isn't interested in The Babadook, watch The Open Book scene.
I will kid you not...still to this very day, while watching the scene on TH-cam, I still get the chills and goosebumps from the atmospheric tone & music. IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, MIGHT I ADD! Very powerful scene as to why I hold it up as one of my All-Time Favorite Horror Films.
"It really plays upon, the fear of being... a woman"
Fucking terrifying.
Another reason to show that john never gets scared is when he put dead silence in f tier
I thought it was so dumb lol
@@annaelisavettavonnedozza9607 how? It was a great movie
It sounds like a jumpscare movie
@@TheNraveles as John said, it was just another mainstream horror movie with no actual substance or purpose.
@@TheNraveles lmao no it wasn’t a great movie
I grew up watching the Saw series, I used to watch it for the torture porn originally. I rewatched it all as an adult and the story is actually amazing and consistent in my opinion. Definitely S tier for me
Finally, someone I trust to have a good taste in horror, making a horror movie tier list!! Thank you, John!
Next we need a comedy horror tier list. Gotta see Tucker & Dale vs Evil in that S spot!
John kinda snubbed Cabin in the Woods (imo), although I DO think it's a *tad* overrated. I'd be interested to hear his take on Tucker & Dale vs Evil.
Did you ever watch Martyrs (2008)? I think it's a modern classic when it comes to horror, but not that many people have watched it due it being a French movie.
God Martyrs. I still have PTSD. It's in my list of movies you can watch only once (another one is Buried). French horror is crazy (Frontiers, anyone?), John should definitely have a look. I mean he probably did, but for the sake of NA audience he focused on more famous movies. Also he did not make the list so there is that.
@@blackest3314 I love French horror though, they're on another level!
@@rachelwindsor850 Agree :)
@@todeskult2818 as much as i found a Serbian movie objectively disturbing, martyrs scarred me and I don't dare to watch it again. I guess at a certain level it's a matter of personal demons.
@@blackest3314 my uncle gave me a DVD of Buried for Christmas once, knowing I liked dark things. My partner and I watched it later that week and we bloody loved it, started a bit of a Reynolds craze between us... I had only seen him in Definitely Maybe before (completely different genre btw) and was just blown away by how brilliantly he performed in this gritty story, keeping us captivated the whole time - definitely kickstarted a lot of discussion about how horrible being in his particular situation in this film would be!
I really enjoyed your horror tier list, John. I was expecting you'd also put The Sinister there as well, I think it's a great movie
Hey I know I'm 2 years late but I agree!
John admires the purity of the movie "Alien," Ash admires the purity of the alien itself.
I have to watch hereditary now, if only because Toni Colette. I feel like the one element of Halloween, at least the original, that makes it so amazing is the tense atmosphere. It's a slasher but not fully, which is the appeal. I would classify Halloween and Silence of the Lambs to be S tier, personally, but I agree with most of this list, ironically. I think it's Final Destination 2 that had the semi truck with a bunch of either tree trunks or pipes on the back that inevitably kill the person - that always stuck with me and I'm still haunted by it and can't drive behind those trucks to this day. That doesn't make it a good film but damn the impact is real.
Does Shudder have all of these on it?
Ps, I'm only 1 hour and 5 mins in, but haven't seen... I think it was called House of Wax, but it had a scene where someone was trapped under a sewer grate and they put their fingers between the grate to alert their friend who was with that killer above them... and the killer cut off the fingers with a set of wire cutters and that has always stuck with me to this day too.
Just for putting The Thing in the S tier you already deserved a second Like John. Arguably a piece of art of the horror and sci fi genre, very underrated back then, but aged incredibly good.
The scene from Get Out that I remember most vividly and made me rewind to watch it again was (not to give too many spoilers) the phone call scene. The actress in that scene was sooo good.
For anyone interested. Nightmare on Elm Street 3 is the best of the franchise. It actually has a plot that makes sense but still keeps the traditional weirdness. Give it a shot!
Directed by Frank Darabont too! Known for Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile, the Mist, and the first (and best) season of the Walking Dead.
@@d0cf0x4 Darabont helped write it yeah. That likely explains why it had a great story/plot haha.
Yeah I'd say just watch the original and the 3rd one.
@@d0cf0x4 Chuck Russell directed it
My three fav horror films: (The Grudge (2004): 57:43 - 58:17) (The Ring (2002): 58:18 - 58:59) (Carrie (1976): 1:24:03 - 1:25:20)
8:41 "one thing that I appreciate about Alien... is like... it's purity"
you know who else did? Ash.
As someone with did I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to explain the negative portrayal of did in the media, it means a lot
If another TH-camr did an hour and a half video talking about horror movies, I'd be bored as all hell, not with John. It's nice to see someone with a great knowledge of horror movies/games that isn't pretentious and sees a wide range of horror not just the main stream. I loved this John!
By the way John, I think you'd really enjoy the original Japanese movies, there are A LOT of Asian horror movies that are great, particularly from Japan, China (my favourite from China has to be Dumplings) and Thailand (4bia and it's sequel is great).
John should definitely check some not-american horrors. The original Grudge is way better than the remake. I liked the netflix series, not very scary but so damn creepy and unsettling. Shutter is another good thai movie and I also loved The Eye (from Hong Kong, not the awful remake with Jessica Alba).
I knew what to expect right off the bat with Dumplings just from reading the DVD jacket, and oddly while watching it I didn't feel "horrified" in the normal sense. But boy howdy it seriously fucked me up in ways I didn't expect for over a week after finishing it.
Big agree on seeing the Japanese originals for lots of horror movies. Something about the "lower" production look and the uncanny valley dialed up to eleven. Less flash and bang. More lasting scares.
I don't understand the hate for dead silence
Same! Some truly unnerving scenes in that one
@mattfisher6901 yes there are, that's the only horror movie in my childhood to follow me after it was over. I'm still not a fan of crawlspaces.
Ooooh hello! Saving this video to watch with my mum when I visit so we can have a good binge! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
My favorite is the Thing because in all the gore in that movie, they managed to make regular looking people terrifying. Any monster that can mimick people you know is just terrifying to me. The indie horror game “Do you Copy?” Game me chills.
Scream getting the recognition it deserves, you love to see it
I'm surprised that you didn't rank Creep. I love that film and it's one of my favorite found footage horror films.
I do not watch a lot of horror films but my favorite ones are Predator, A Nightmare on Elm Street (And Dream Warriors), the Final Destination franchise (Except for the 4th one) and Train to Busan.
Hey John, loved the video! Have you ever seen "As Above So Below"? If so, I would love to know where you would place it on your tier list. Much love and keep up the good work!
Love this type of content John! Well, any type of content from you is good. And Scream definitely deserves the S tier. One of the few horror movie franchises where the sequels don't drastically drop in quality imo
I didn't think you wouldn't put the thing in S-tier, but also relieved you did. My all time favorite horror movie (with the shining and 28 days later as close 2bd/3rd), with the special effects still looking good nowadays.
John! Right on time for dinner. Thanks for the content as always!
Glad to know Sexually Transmitted Demon got in tier A like it deserves. Great tier list, John!
Depending on what STI u have you can get rid of it with a course of tablets from the doctors,don’t worry you will be cured.👍🤣🤣🤣🤣
everyone who are fans of all the movies John didn't put in the S tier must think he's being quite critical. maybe even harshly so.
lmaooooo
I mean, the only one I didnt agree with was Silence of the Lambs. That is one of my all time favorite movies. It's absolutely S tier for me, almost for Anthony Hopkins' performance alone.
I’ve never seen it follows but it sounds like that one meme about the snail that’s always following you
Pretty spot on with your list tbh John.
I agree with It Follows and The Village being underrated. The only thing I’d change is that I’d put Hills Have Eyes 1 in B tier, there’s just something about that movie I like
Yeah I agree pretty much everywhere and totally agree that The Village gets waaaaay to much shit for what is a reasonably solid movie, like John said I think Lady in the Water is where he started to go down hill. The only thing I'd change is I'd put The Descent in either A or maybe even S-tier (as long as we're talking the original UK ending and not the butchering it got in the US just to make a sequel), I'd put Hush higher as well but that's probably because several of my family members are deaf so it scared the shit out of them and thus me in turn.
I think you're the only person I could watch a whole hour and a half tier list video from start to finish. I like the descriptions and the charm
I honestly thought John would put Child's Play in D or F tier because of all the "Chucky should be in Dead By Daylight!" People
Oh noo... the dreaded "C" word. 😉
This is a great video! My parents raised me on horror movies and books so luckily I've seen all the classics but there are a few newer movies on here that I haven't seen that I will definitely have to check out. Thanks John!
Definitely recommend rewatching Hush! I was very very impressed with it. It's not an exceedingly scary movie, but the tension is killer!
Breaks my heart that you put The Conjuring - my favorite horror film - in B Tier. But I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it regardless!
Loved Hush and in general everything directed by Flanagan. Also I think Kate Siegel is a very good actress (she also looks a lot like Angelina Jolie ahah)
Honestly the main reason I have Conjuring in B tier is because I find exorcism films kind of exhausting. Once you get to a certain point in the movie, every single cast member is screaming every line, the possessed person is looking grosser and grosser every scene... it's numbing to me after a bit. But like I said, I really appreciate Wan's sense of drama in those films, the direction is really good
@@JohnWolfe That's understandable. I personally found The Conjuring just had a perfect buildup to payoff, and the assault on the senses that you describe as exhausting makes it feel impactful to me, sort of like how you say the film does a good job of making the stakes feel really high. The soundtrack and growing tension as a result of Wan's direction lends a great deal to the perfect amount of buildup to a huge finale.
Loved the vid, thanks for the content! (And John Carpenter's The Thing should totally be studied as a whole course on how to do horror films)
I agree completely ! I really liked Hush personally. In my opinion, the fact that she's deaf really added to the tension, it made her even more vulnerable. She is also one of the rare protagonist in horror movies (that I've seen) that is actually smart, very resourceful.
I'm a fan of the work of Flanagan and Spiegel so maybe I'm biased lol. Loved their work on The Haunting of Hill House too.
Not related at all but I wish John would have reacted to Sinister. I'd love to hear his opinion on it.
I watched Hush because everyone was raving about it. I was pretty unimpressed to be honest. I remember there was this bath scene towards the end of the movie and I couldn't stop laughing. Think it played too much on the cliche home alone in the middle of nowhere scenario.
Also I would put the exorcism of Emily rose ahead of the conjuring, based on that girls acting alone, which made that movie so popular.
Very helpful list, John. I found 3 movies on you list I never heard of before. Thank you!
I love that you defended The Conjuring films because those are two of my favorites of all time. Spot on analysis of the directing and payoff. (I do love Annabelle: Creation as a spinoff, and The Nun has a certain charm even if it's lacking in story 😅)
I appreciate your comments about The Shining being 'not for everyone' even though you put it in S Tier. As a horror movie fan it's one of those movies I always feel like I *should* enjoy it, but I just don't. The long quiet stretches to build tension and the very slow buildup just make it so by the time the ending rolls around I'm already over it. I definitely understand why other people like it, but it doesn't do it for me. Your list seems really consistent and well-reasoned, thanks for sharing!
If Alien isn’t S-tier I’m gonna be upset.
Spoiler
You shan’t be upsrt
I’m personally not that fond of alien.
For me alien would have to be A tier cause I like Aliens better for S.
@@Bread. I’m one of the people who prefer Alien over Aliens.
@@Ann1ka2425 They are both great movies for sure!
Officially the only tier list I've ever watched from beginning to end, and couldn't be more satisfied through and through. I wasn't allowed to watch horror films all growing up but i love your content and extremely respect your opinions on all the games I've watched you play.
As an adult I've enjoyed horror films but never knew where to start, or which were the good ones. Quite a few movies im definitely going to make an effort to see now thanks to you.
For those who enjoy psychological horror, The Night House was excellent.
Do you mean the light house?
@@peytonthedude745 night house is a new horror film in theaters now
@@madeofmeatsOh i didn't know
The Village was marketed as a horror film when it really was a love story with a thrilling mystery attached. I didn't know about the twist when I first saw it, and I initially watched it with people who HATED the twist, but I loved it. I thought it was a great movie with a great twist. But I can see how people who went into it looking to see people get torn up by old timey monsters would be disappointed. I'm so happy to finally see someone who enjoyed it like I did, though. Much respect.
I can’t tell you how happy I was when John put scream in S tier. And honestly I agreed with almost all of his rankings, for the movies I’ve seen at least.
Totally random: but this video popped up in my algorithm and my mind randomly thought “I wonder what HarshlyCritical is up to”. Searched that name and it’s this channel haha I haven’t watched you since like 2013! Glad to have made it back!
This was so much fun to watch! I have been a huge horror film fan since I was a little girl. My dad would sneak me downstairs to watch horror movies late at night with him so I've seen all the movies on your list and it was fun to agree and argue with you on your list.
I’m excited to see you posted this because I’ve been binging horror movie tier videos and now one of my favorite horror let’s players is posting one? Sign me up
I really love that you also like the movie it follows. I was actually holding out hope that it was going to be on this list to see what your opinion on it was. To be honest I haven’t been creeped out by a movie like it follows in a long time.
Solid list, well done.
John Carpenter’s The Thing is as close as you can get to a perfect horror movie. There are so many subtle details that just aren’t found in modern horror films.
Besides all of the obvious components that make this a great film (atmosphere, tension, soundtrack, practical effects), the piece that really gets me is that we know NOTHING about the crew members, other than their jobs at the station (family back home, relationships, hobbies, personal beliefs). It’s part of the overarching theme that we truly don’t know who the characters are and they don’t really know each other well enough to decide who might be the imposter. It keeps everything calculated, analytical, and scientific as the crew tries to figure out who is infected and leads up to the perfectly executed blood test scene. Man, what a great movie.
Ah yes. Snacks and John content. True perfection.
Thank god ive been looking to watch other horror movies and just didnt know where to start! Great timing for me John!
John THANK YOU for rating The Village!! i honestly adore that movie, it might not be specifically a “horror” but I genuinely think it was tastefully done, the twist was decent, the acting is great and the characters are so emotional and intense, and the SOUNDTRACK? oh my god! insanely underrated, dude! and honestly i do think the “creature” design was terrifying, and the way they portray it through the movie is pretty effective
not saying it’s a perfect film but i find it so charming, if a little bit campy - it and Signs are two of my favourites to be honest
Ps. Rear Window is amazing, and also, if you haven’t seen Rope by Hitchcock, but you like a film that all plays out in one place (though it’s a little like a theatre anti-murder mystery)? [chefs kiss]
I just watched Rope recently, like a few months ago, and was blown away by how tense I felt the whole movie! Glad to see someone else watch and enjoy it too! Rear Window is still my favorite tho!!
I really appreciate these non-game videos you make even if they aren't games. Just seeing you have a good time looking through these movies and talking about them is really cool, plus I get to live vicariously through the experience as well, thanks for making this content!
The Village has to be better than the film he attempted to make based on a beloved animated series.
Would’ve really liked to see where you’d rank ‘Christine’, gotta love that blood thirsty classic ‘58 Plymouth Fury. Absolutely love that film. 💕
Was honestly a bit taken a back that it wasn’t on here.
It Follows is such a great film. The soundtrack does wonders for it as well!
Big horror fan too and It Follows especially is very underrated and deserves to be better known. The concept alone is just so simple and effective but the atmosphere of the whole thing is so eerie and unsettling - it just adds so much to it.