Arkham Asylum Retrospective: How It Changed The Game
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- Come watch someone try to avoid using the term "gritty" for about 40 minutes as they explain how Arkham Asylum changed how we viewed Superhero games.
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I get the criticism of Detective Mode, especially as it began transitioning over to other games where it made less sense, but I feel it was important for making the player feel like Batman. You're supposed to be Batman in his prime, so you need a mechanic that gives you some idea how the "World's Greatest Detective" sees the world.
Vance B True, it was essential in the batman games, and made gameplay a lot more fun too. But it was overused. Almost all predator challenges for players would’ve spent the majority of it within detective mode. I tried to not utilise it too much as the visuals were great also, and detective mode took that away. Super useful and needed, but they should have perhaps anticipated that in advance, thus why the scrambler thugs (City) and guys who detect vision mode in (Knight) were needed at times
@@Onlyhooper Wait you kept detective mode on? I only turned it on when I needed to find someone to beat, collecting riddler trophies, or story progression. Why would you keep it on?
@@maesterdanteamadeus444 No idea, a lot of people do.
No, I said in my first reply that I didn't do that because I enjoyed the graphics and environmental details, whereas detective mode turned everything colourless with red and blue skeletons. But I know people that kept it on far too much. It made predator challenges very easy, and I think that's why people overused it. Devs said it was a mistake to not balance it too.
Batman has no prime, he only has downfalls.
Watching this made me realize the key fault in Spider-man's stealth in that there was no urgency in any of those segments. You could take out all foes leisurely and they would never adapt or change their behavior as you picked them off one by one.
That, and the wall crawling is restrictive and there aren't many items that work well with stealth since many of them might get you caught (other then the Web Mine).
Stealth in spider-man was pretty bare-bones, fingers crossed they flesh it out in the sequel
Imo the stealth in Spider-Man had some pretty blatant flaws, like not being necessary for 95% of the game, failing to encourage creative use of gadgets, and the fact that perch takedowns are pretty much the safest and most reliable way to do every single one, unlike the ones in Batman where you need to asess the situation, strategize and stay on the move to not be spotted
But they were still very satisfying to pull, so once they make the sequel I hope they expand on these segments
Not only that, but the AI in Spider-Man during stealth situations is really stupid or just really oblivious. How do they not see or hear their comrades webbed up against the wall or hanging from a perch? How do they not hear Spidey’s webs when they spray?
@@Nassit-Gnuoy That's not inherently bad, just immersion-breaking. A good AI is not meant to defeat the player but lend itsef to creating interesting gameplay scenarios. Which admitedley the game doesn't pull off either, since the AI is WAAAAAY too easy to manipulate, and then again, when the mooks turn around it's useless as long as you're on top of a perch and can execute perch takedowns, since perches more or less make you completely invisible
Great intro, I love how you just transition from Spider-Man to Batman without explicitly saying so.
Foxcade: "Pulled a sneaky on ya."
Same, I like Spiderman but had several batman deja vu moments
I mean, no one is saying Spiderman is bad, so I dont know why you are getting so defensive about it. Also, having played most of those games and looking at footage of the rest, the combat only resembles those Spider-Man games in the most rudimentary fashion, but only in the way all platformers use jumping because it's a base requirement. Spiderman never owned combo punching goons.
@bigevilworldwide1 I don't know about the other games you listed but Web of Shadows doesn't have the same combat as Arkham. WoS is a beat em up with dial up combos.
@bigevilworldwide1 First doesn't mean it was better lol The arkham games were the first version where it wasn't trash combat unlike the spider man games.
True Story: I knew a guy that rented Arkham Asylum and mere days later the place went out of business.
I guess you have to keep the game if you can't return it.
Batman: Arkham Rental
Dam Winchester Batman return to Arkham rental store 🤣😂
Big win
Vengeance is coming
What a lucky shit 😂
This game was such a fun surprise, honestly nobody saw it coming. There were so many clever bits too, like the scarecrow nightmare starting out with a simulation of a graphics card crash and reboot
Absolutely agree. I was late to the game as well, the graphic style in screenshots looked terrible to me, and despite praise I passed on it. I later played the Demo and bought it straight away, it looks great in motion and the game play is wonderful.
When I saw that as a kid, I was freaking out thinking my game disk was broken
When the third scarecrow section started, I legit thought my 360 was starting to red ring on me AGAIN. I didn't play the game for 3 days because I was too scared that it might happen if I turned on the system. Eventually I decided to bite the bullet and wait for the inevitable.....it was only after the cutscene continued that I realized it was the game screwing with me.
That graphics card crash scares the shit out of me every time.
nochtczar Lol I remember that part I was only 12 at the time and thought my ps3 broke and I was so pissed and thought the game disc broke until I reloaded it and found out it was apart of the game and thought oh wow that’s actually really clever
Games did change after Arkham Asylum.
From good to bad
@@nbkguy4203 no
@@andreiaromanesei9270 well i kinda agree. city is better, but origins and knight are not
@@TheChosenMoose01 Origins had some good boss battles and story (But yea the smoothness of the game was terrible), Arkham Knight had better graphics, more satisfying and smooth takedowns and combat (But the Batmobile and tanks were used too much and most boss battles were wasted).
Arkham City had a great story and boss battles, and the fact you can glide was awesome (But many details were missed), Arkham Asylum was the perfect game that no one can complain about. What I'm saying is that all games are great in their own ways.
@@keithbeslaying6923 i agree 100%. each game did something better than the last game
OH GOD EA had the Batman license thank lord they put it down and rocksteady took it
5.00€ for a batrang
David Little HAA! More like $150
I mean it was going to be done by Pandemic who had made the good Battlefront games.
To be frank tho. It was going to be made around the time EA was still a good company, aka the Dead space era.
I did enjoy the batman begins game and it would've been interesting to see a video game based on the dark knight but it was worth it to get the arkham games.
The best part of the game is how it really makes you FEEL like batman
It really makes you feel like knack 2 HD
@@luizigzag824 Jokah 2 baybee
@Welomeister No, but have you played Bookworm Adventures?
Ben Giles my favourite moment of dunkey’s channel
Random person: I gotta say, bumbler interactive isn’t what it used to be
Bumbler interactive: no u
Batman does not kill anyone by his own rule and the game does not allow you to do such act. But... I think I broke that when I hit a thug with a Batclaw in the Botanical Gardens and pulled that poor bastard into the pit so deep you can't see the bottom of it.
Small thing but I felt I've let everyone down by doing it.
*hits someone full speed with batmobile* 😣 *blows up a car full of people and watches there unconscious bodies ( according to detective vision )burn*
In Arkham city I was able to inverted takedown a thug on wonder tower, I cut the rope that was hanging the thug and he fell of the whole tower
Yep, I thought it hilarious that Arkham Knight had the whole plot about how 'Batman does NOT kill'.... AND gave me a Batmobile in the same game... I Guarantee a LOT of people died in that game... Sure.. they say those bullets were 'nonlethal'... but they ALSO blew up tanks... so I call them liars.
Not even counting the ones that were just plain run over by the car...
That's an issue with most of these games. Even back in Spider-man 2 for PS2... The amount of people that I accidently punched off the skyscrapers... beyond measure >.
@@phantom1592 The Tanks that you blew up in Arkham Knight were all unmanned drones and the people you hit with your car where knock away with a non lethal electric shock before fully being hit I know the electric shock part sounds ridiculous but it's the truth
In the Return to arkham remaster, you can see tge floor in the aviary room, so if you use a batclaw on those thugs into the pit, you can see them.
Don't believe me? Try it out for yourself
Now I feel like replaying Arkham asylum
Suhil Jugroop ditto
me too
Who DOESN'T :)
do it
It still holds up really well, I just started another playthrough
Im not much of a gamer. Never have been other than sports games. But I finally broke down and played Spider-Man because I heard so many good things and I am a huge Marvel fan.
After I was done, I was like... "This is one of the best games I have ever played".
So a friend of mine says... well, you might like Arkham Knight if you like Spider-Man.
I played it for about 45 minutes and I was like... I TOTALLY see the influence on the Spider-Man game.
Then my same friend said, well you can played the first 2 games on PS4 because they remastered them.
I was ehhhh about it. But found a great price. Hesitated to open the packaging.
But when I did, I could not believe I was playing a game that should have been outdated.
I got to City and I got it... Meaning I understood.
These games changed gaming. They were fantastic LONG after they should have had that affect on someone playing it for the first time.
I even liked Origins. The criticism of the game is fair. It really doesn't do anything new. But sometimes it's cool just to play a greatest hits album.
Ka1ne got any suggestions based on how much we like arkham games?
@@hazo9441 if you like great story, Mass Effect 2 is widely regarded as one of the GOATs
@Ka1ne trash games
Wow a marvel fan saying the arkham games are great damn.
I bought the game at release the moment I heard Kevin Conroy was doing Batman, Mark Hamil was doing Joker, and Arleen was doing Harley.
That alone confirmed my purchase.
Yep. They are the Batman/Joker & Harley. Nobody else can be them in my opinion, although Troy didn't do too badly as Joker in Origins. Gotta hand him that at least.
I just did another walkthrough again!
It's 11 years later and this game still holds up!! Which shows it's a masterpiece!
I'm playing through it again and I refuse to belive it 11 years old man this game feels like smth that could've been released in
2017 or smth if the animations weren't so weird
Looking forward to the Arkham City Retrospective!
I come from the future.
He has yet to do it
Arkham Origins is HIGHLY underrated.
That may have been my favorite one.
Best story, imo.
It's the only game in the franchise I own, ironically. I think it's a decent game. The best part of it was the Crime Reconstruction mechanic.
I feel like Origins and Knight are grouped together as "the bad ones", even though they both improved on things from the earlier games (forensic analysis, boss battles, lore, enemy types, etc). And personally, I think Arkham Knight is the best one in the series, but everyone ignores it because of the horrendous PC release (even though the console version ran just fine).
The multiplayer was pretty fun too, just buggy as hell
As a Poison Ivy fanboy, it is so great to find a fellow man of culture!
This was a treat to watch. Everything was easy to understand and enjoyable while still going in-depth with the aspects of AA that really shine. You really opened my eyes to some of the game's shortcomings, but did so in a way where I went, "Oh yeah, he's got a point" and I friggin" love that. Keep this stuff up man, I've got a suspicion that you're about to get a helluva lot bigger very soon!
The type of "enhanced vision" was quite a fashion in videogames already before Arkham Asylum launched, for example Infernal (2007), Assassin's Creed (2007 aswell) just from my personal experience. I do agree Arkham Asylum was a great game, since it had big quality in mostly every single aspect, but it was not the responsible of this "enhanced vision" all around.
It most certainly perfected and popularized it
Rocksteady made it more logical
But that was more restrictive as you had to get the bar full, stand still, and couldn't see enemies unless you were close to them, which would change later in the series such as Unity, BF, and Syndicate like in the Arkham games
This game was pretty good but it would have been a lot better if the Joker had damaged tattooed on his forehead and Batman asks him "Do you bleed?" before ripping out his throat and drinking his blood and then just screams.
Brandon Powell Then he bat-brands the corpse for good measure
M A R T H A
Damn..... that was funny
Also plot twist, Jokers mother is also named Martha
@Outlaw Gaming It's actually pretty good and original, it's just not the joker that should've been in suicide squad aha
While I understand why people aren't a fan of the "detective vision" mechanic that has shown up in a lot of modern titles, I kind of need it if I'm going get through particular games. I'm legally blind, and thus I have a hard time seeing particular things in certain lighting, and fine details and textures are difficult for my eyes to register. (And a lot of modern games love them some dark, gritty visual design) So being able to highlight intractables, pick-ups, and enemies is incredibly helpful for keeping a fun gameplay flow for me. There have been so many times in games where I would be stuck for hours in an area, not because I was dumb, but because the solution was right in front of me and I just straight-up couldn't see it.
( . Y . )
I remember a Prince of Persia game for the PS2 that was SOOOOOOO frustrating. You had to do the typical run up a wall, grab a curtain, swing on a rod, climb more wall... and only grab certain spaces or fall and have to start all over... but the modern graphics were so realistic and seamless it took FOREVER to get through each room. For a game like that to 'flow' you need those handholds and paths highlighted in some way.... I never did beat that game. Got frustrated and quit after a couple of months.
Don't AAA games already have a 'blind' vision for people like you? In fact I'm pretty sure one of the Arkham games does.
Edward Armstrong I think you're thinking of the colorblind correction settings
Oh, it's not just you! The environmental details in modern games are so busy now, it can often be much harder to tell what to look for or what you can interact with and whatnot. I started thinking about this again when I played the original and 2016 Doom games recently. I had a much easier time keeping focused on the combat in Classic Doom, because the simpler visuals allow for much more clarity. It could be harder to make stuff out on the new one, due to all the excessive visual "noise".
Now I really want to read your "Dark Knight" university essays...
Game-changing superhero titles per medium:
Video games = Arkham franchise
Live action TV series = Batman (1966-68)
Cartoon TV show = Batman: The Animated Series
Animated movie = Mask of the Phantasm
Live action film = The Dark Knight trilogy
Graphic novels = The Dark Knight Returns, The Killing Joke, Batman: Year One, etc...
Other superheroes provided their own game-changers, but none have drastically changed every medium like Batman has.
BECAUSE HE'S BATMAN!!!!!!!!!
I remember the the great white shark.
Another great video. The boss fights in this game are it's one major weakness, and the main reason why I think Origins gets more crap then it deserves is because it's combat in the boss fights is so much better. The Deathstroke boss fight is the best combat combat in the entire series, just as how the Mr. Freeze boss fight is the best stealth fight.
i agree wholeheartedly origins gets a lot a flack because it was rushed out in a year by wb and the smaller dev team made the best they possibly could've with the time given and i will say once a lot of the bugs were ironed out origins had the most refined combat yet particularly when it came to bosses the whole package however can't be overlooked yes the gameplay was more refined yes the graphics were slightly better but the story was lackluster and the amount of bugs and the horrible performance on release earned it a warranted backlash and given another chance i feel the team could have made an amazing arkham game... but as is it's still better than knight tho
You know, I think that Deathstroke fight is overrated, there's not much dynamism or creativity demanded from it, your basically just countering his moves and punching him a bit until he dies, then batman beats him in a cut scene before you even finish off his health bar, fuck that.
I way prefer the first Bane fight and the Copperhead fight in the same game, I know that they fall into the 'glorified mob fight' in a lot ways like the video mentions, but they do it way better than anywhere else in the games and lean on the stuff that makes the combat system fun and rewarding as a result, while revolving around a main enemy that's much more interesting to engage compared to, say, Bane in the first game or Solomon Grundy in City.
Casvic You do realise the death stroke boss fight is basically a carbon copy of the ras al ghul boss fight in city? Even most of the animations are the same. Lazy, just lazy.
@@bandito_x9621 yeah, but it's faster paced and doesn't have boring fluff like the giant form or clones. It's more fun and if they were able to used old assets to speed things up but not make it boring, I don't care. I did programming in high school and college so trust me when I say this, everyone uses copy + paste.
Anyways, the stuff I actually found to be lazy is the fact that Joker is the main villain yet again, the crime scene mode is too easy and the shock gloves aren't balanced at all.
If it wasn’t for Batman Arkham Asylum, superhero video games would never be the same today! This game was “Where it all began!”
Idky why Batman Arkham Origin is so disliked, i do understand that fighting/block combo but other then that, i love everything!! The boss battles, the two city's x) and the use of the Batwing. Also mentioning the cinematics like honestly, i love love love Arkham origin❤
My favorite in the series
origins was a fine game, and Knight was a blast.
I love Knight. Only about 2 games have made me want to go to NG+, and Arkham Knight is one of those 2. The other is DS 3, for those who're wondering
Arkham knight is the perfect batman experience
@@BossKillRatio I think the regular gameplay of Knight is the best in the series. The combat, the predator segments, the traversal mechanics all were refined into perfection. And then they decided to throw a tank game once every mission and a half it. Tbf I know a lot of people really like the Batmobile, and that's fair, there's nothing wrong with that, but I just wish it was used more as a fun way to traverse the city and solve a few puzzles, rather than being central to the game. All I'm saying is, I don't like tank or racing games, so to me AK was constantly flowing from "this is the best arkham game hands down" to "I could be playing anything else right now". It's a game I love and hate
Knight was a pretty fun game but I feel like since it was the first game with the batmobile, they tried to implement it in way too many of the missions which kinda took away from feeling like batman because most of the game u were in a car exploding vehicles. Other than that though I loved knight
I stopped playing after 100% all most wanted mission except The Riddler. I was like why would play hard for 100% for short cutscene while I can watch it on TH-cam.
One of the best games I ever played
I don’t even like videogames anymore, and I still play Asylum and City occasionally.
That was the strongest first 42 seconds I've ever seen in a video
I never had a chance to play this game, because I arrived when Arkham City was at the franchise's head. And its kind of sad, because after watching this retrospective it really feels like some of the things that made Asylum special were lost to wide market appeal, in particular the shift from tightly-desigmed metroidvania to ubisoft-esque open world
Nice video, as usual. This was a really good essay too
Great essay man I loved it. These type of video essays give me so much nostalgia. Thank you
Aww Arkham Asylum! What a freaking amazing game. I still remember the first time I made an enemy piss himself by appearing right behind him after taking out all his friends.
Stayed up all night playing this game when I first got it. My dad woke up the next morning and asked me if I had been up all night and I told him "There's no time to sleep. Gotham needs me."
He laughed and then told me to turn it off because he wanted to watch Star Trek. And I got sad.
I think I'm going to replay the series now. Thanks mate.
Man I feel the same. I love all the games, but asylum had this special atmosphere and really made me feel like Gotham’s only hope (other games had Batman saved by his allied). The game mechanics were improved on in the other games, but damn does asylum hold a special place in my childhood and heart.
Assassin's Creed's Counter move was actually in the first game as well which predated Arkham Asylum, that said as the series went on the combat became more and more like the Batman Freeflow system until, Origins basically rebooted the combat into an action RPG.
Spiderman 2 had the counter/dodge aka react button
And Spidey 3 had Spidey vision ( came out may 2007 creed was Nov 2007 )
But hey everything is a copy of arkham
@@Elnegro.. To be fair people do tend to copy what popularized the trend rather than what actually started it so even though Arkham Asylum pretty clearly took the inspiration from Spider-Man (the counter icon even looks virtually identical for crying out loud), more people are going to look at the Arkham series to copy things from, purely because of popularity. Speaking of copying, aside from press y/triangle to counter, in what way did Sleeping Dogs "copy" Arkham Asylum I've played it and aside from countering, the combat controls nothing alike with emphasis on preset combos and grapple moves and especially environmental kills and weapons, it's also a lot stiffer but I don't mean that in a bad way.
@@GodOfOrphans Arkham fanboys make no sense anything with a counter button is a copy of arkham
@@Elnegro.. It's less Arkham Fanboys and more what GodOf said hell Doom when it was released ended up getting every first person shooter called "Doom Clones".
@@TheArthasmenethril Don't really follow
I remeber when I was a kid with the scarecrow hallucination glitch out thing freaking out and restarting my xbox everytime It happened before the you turn into the joker for about an hour. After I gave up one final time I started crying till it switched over cause I thought I wasnt gonna get to finish the game.
I didn't really have bug issues with Arkham Knight.
Okay, that makes more sense.
PC is the bugged version, Consoles however had none
@@TwiKnight2001 was*
b. eastie It's still got issues.
@@memebot6490 they patched it up last year, my computer is fine with it
Only 3 minutes into this video first time ever seeing a video from you, and I love everything you've done so far with the intro
i remember buying this game day one. alot of the magazine previews touted it as taking some cues from the riddick game and that really intrigued me. looking at screengrabs and such i instantly new it was significantly more interesting than any super hero videogame i could think of so i took the risk.
I have always connected Butcher Bay & Arkham Asylum in my head. They are the two best movie/licensed property tie in games ever when they released. It can be argued that Spider-Man ps4 can be added to that list now
We still getting that Bayonetta 2 retrospective or... 👀
End of this month! (...Or very early next knowing my timing)
PHILL SHIVELY maybe aquaman , Martian manhunter, or cyborg. Even a teen titans game would be great
First time i saw arkham asylum i cried like a littlw girl when i came from school. My uncle had it and i saw it and i couldn't believe they brought a beloved character in all its detail to life. They game was exactly what i imagined as well which made it so much better for me. My uncle was a legend for introducing me to gta IV and batman arkham asylum and mortal kombat and tekken when i was a little fetus lol
I didn't feel like it is 40 minute video. It really kept my attention. I haven't got bored at any moment of it. Great job!!!
Love your work man, keep it up!
The Long Holloween is one of the best Batman stories out there. I loved it.
too bad the artwork is so ugly. Hope it gets animated.
Great vid I appreciate all the work put in. Thanks for taking me back to those good days.
Fantastic video, I love the detail you've gone into and I think you've nailed your explanation of what the game is all about. Also liking the links you make back to the comics
Great vid. I always enjoy watching your content.
Of course, you're the only one I've seen wearing the amazing ends of earth suit instead of the homecoming one. As if this video wasn't amazing already.
Liked and subscribed in the first minute and a half. Just how you explain being a child of the 90s and growing up in Batman. Always and forever will be my favorite hero. 🖤🖤
I was never my favorite franchise but respect where it’s due it was a quality product.
Always nice to see videos from you.
Still of my favourite games of all time! Played through multiple times.
Your comment about it being the best of the 4 is absolutely correct.
And yes, I left detective mode on ALL THE TIME.
I downloaded the demo version first then bought the full game. It was mind blowing. Even at a time when Assassin's Creed had just come out.
Your quickly becoming one of fav essayists
Love the music in the background man. Nice selection!
TL;DR: I'd love to see a retrospective of Assassin's Creed and its influence on gaming.
Great video! I know the video is a bit old, but I felt this needed to be said. While a lot of this is true, I felt like you undercut a lot of what Assassin's Creed did similarly. The first game came out two years before Arkham and had already done a lot of what you mentioned here. Eagle Vision is a significantly less powerful detective vision, but holds the same purpose. The stealth involved a lot of the same things: finding the high ground, learning routes, etc. Even the fear element was there, albeit less of a focus. The combat involved a lot of the same aspects including counters, timing, and overall flow. In addition, AC2 cleaned up and improved upon a lot of things that the first game did, and it was only three months after Arkham released so not much room for influence.
PS: You have gained another new subscriber. Current count is 66.6k, spooky.
Oh hey, a video about a game whose remastered version I am playing through. Loving it btw :D
Now Arkham Asylum, that was a game!
THANK YOU for making this video I saw the blatant similarities and nobody said anything and since these games are so old nobody talks about them so thank you so so much for voicing the opinion that nobody was willing to say
in horizon zero dawn, the "Detective vision" was used well as it didn't block out the beautiful visuals and slowed down your walking speed meaning you wouldn't use it constantly unless you wanted to slowly walk everywhere.. it's the best version of the "detective vision" to date
Please do retrospective for god of war.
great video dude! still waiting for part 2 of bayonetta's retrospective tough
Question: Remember those lunatics in the Asylum who just charged at you while screaming?
Where were they in Arkham City?
I was 4 when I first played asylum it was so fukin cool except form the killer croc and scarecrow part which I was too scared to play so my dad had to complete the missions for me and is probably my favourite game to this day
Nostalgia......
Arkham Asylum is a rad game, and now I'm glad that I have a video to give people to back up that opinion. A nice retrospective as always, with a good amount of detail and a fair look at each aspect (like the excellent atmosphere and the underwhelming boss fights.) There was a hiccup with the portion covering combat as the background music got a bit bombastic and made it hear to hear the voiceover at one or two points, but nothing too major (and it could just be my awful hearing playing tricks again.) I especially love that you mentioned how Rocksteady went with their own angle rather than a straightforward adaptation and what a breath of fresh air that actually was for the time. That and the glitching Scarecrow-esque introduction? Sweet stuff.
EDIT: I said Arkham Knight instead of Arkham Asylum. Fixed that now.
Arkham Knight is an amazing game. Anyone who ever said it wasn't has no credibility should be ignored and laughed at.
@@shinbakihanma2749 Because people shouldn't ever be allowed to have opinions of course
The Story was pretty terrible aside from a few positive moments and the design for the stealth/predator portions is the worst of the 4 games. The additions to combat and sound design though was top tier (even though batman felt more like a superhero than a disciplined man with intensive training, but that's been an issue since City). Still an enjoyable experience.
Ah, bugger me, I meant to say Asylum, not Knight. My bad. Still some fair points on Knight there, though. It's a mixed bag (the Batmobile can make or break the game for people) but I still got my enjoyment out of it.
@@missingaforest3639 you're way off the mark. The story was not terrible. Far from it. The DLC stories were pretty lacklustre though. The predator sections were amazing, more refined and gave you more options. It was more fun than previous entries. Arkham Knight is the best game in the series. What they pulled off was remarkable. It makes the previous games boring by comparison. I even LOVE the Batmobile. Yeah, i said it. The batmobile fucking RULED. COME AT ME BRO!!
You're becoming one of my favourite youtubers, these vids are top quality. Keep it up!
Thank you so much!
Great retrospective as always, I hope It gets bigger one day.
The Arkham games are the greatest incarnation of Batman and my favourite games. Arkham Knight is my favourite game of all time.
Its called Redbox, im pretty sure they have them in most Super Markets. They usually only have AAA titles but yeah you can rent the games, although sometimes its not too bad of a deal to just buy the used copies from them as instead.
The comparison in the intro is literally all i could think about when I first started playing Spider-man
God I love you. So glad I found you. Subscriber earned.
this really makes you *feel* like batman
i loved this video, it was an amazing look back at one of my favourite games. the only thing i would complain about is the fact you are using the Return to Arkham version of the game instead of the original. i know it's a lot easier to record the newer version, but i think the brightness and shininess ruins the gothic atmosphere the original had. It also showcases more of the blemishes that the darker lighting, were hiding. but beside that, legendary video.
One of the games that marked my childhood , great content man 👍
I grew up with Arkham City rather than asylum but everything you say echoes how I feel about it and it’s easily one of my favorite games because up until that point I’ve never seen anything like it in a videogame before and I was always glued onto what was happening whether it was me or dad playing the game
I would love to see a video essay in this style for Arkham City and how it changed the formula from Arkham Asylum with its open world and the bigger scope of the game. With how it benefited from those changes and the disadvantages of moving away from the linear Metroid-vania gameplay of Asylum. I personally prefer Arkham City because of its tone being more akin to the animated series and how it felt more like a comic book world as opposed to Asylum. Also the simplicity of Asylum’s combat and stealth mechanics are kind of difficult to go back to after experiencing what the other games in the series brought to the table in those fields. But I have to say, this video made me realize and newfound respect for Asylum and what it meant for the series and games in general. I never comment on videos but I thought I should tell you how great of a job you did with this, keep up the great work 👍
Good stuff man. I actually never realized Arkham Asylum wasn't the first game Rocksteady made. I already wanted to go back and replay this, but now that I know it's the 10-year anniversary in 2019 I think I'm going to make a point to revisit it.
Only negative comment would be to note the original Assassin's Creed released in 2007 and was pretty heavily reliant on the counter-attack feature. I recall more than a few interviews comparing it to Assassin's Creed combat, but an improvement since you had to use buttons other than counter for many of the fights. That said, after playing Assassin's Creed 3 and quitting, I think you're right that the series took influence from Batman and tried to (poorly) imitate its success themselves.
Can't really say beyond that myself, as after giving up on AC3 I abandoned the series.
I appreciate that you don't call Spider-Man a complete imitation, though. While its narrative structure, implementation of villains, and stealth segments are all effectively imitating or blatantly inspired by Arkham, I felt like the combat of Spider-Man was more along the lines of a super simplification of the DMC/Bayonetta style combat with an element of Arkham's execution. As you say, Arkham is a rhythm game, and that's not really the sort of game Spider-Man was trying to be.
I remember going to my local Wal-Mart one day when I was younger and I saw a display with Batman Arkham Asylum and when I played it, it was amazing. I'd never thought, at the time, that Batman could get a game that portrayed him so well. Arkham Asylum is definitely one of my favorite video games.
I love how that intro was basically you jumping on a canopy and throwing shade
For me this is the best game of the Arkham series. Love the Asylum's atmosphere and the half-sandbox gameplay more.
I'm replaying all the Batman Arkham series for PS4 and I'm having fun 🤣🤣🤣
Incredible video man fair play...makes me wanna play the games again
Watched the whole thing. Great analysis. Was a pleasure watching this as I love Batman and the Arkham games.
I absolutely love the Hush story. really great masterpiece!
Watching this makes me really glad I still have my PS3 so I didn’t have to get Return to Arkham.
I just got the Arkham bundle today and it brings back memories of playing these amazing games on my friends couch in 2013
Liked and subscribed. This is some quality stuff.
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The Assassin’s Creed series didn't take counters or its combat from Arkham Asylum: the very first Assassin’s Creed game had the same kind of counters the rest of the series has and it came out two years before AA (and AC2 was released only a few months after AA, not enough time for them to have stolen the combat mechanics and implemented them).
If anything, AA stole the system from Assassin’s Creed.
Spider-Man 2 had it first.
Great combat, Great story, Great characters, fun linear progression through a very nice looking semi open world. I enjoyed this game a great deal!
Great video! And love Shiki no Uta in the background.
Another amazing video!! Keep up the good work mate
16:39 ... and me just sitting here and reading Arkham Asylum: Living Hell
Great book btw
that was the other major inspiration
Fun fact:
If you spell "Mechanics" backwards it becomes "Devil May Cry"
That should be a fact fiend video. maybe the tangent at the end will be about aragami, that seems plausible.
scinahcem
Fantastic essay, man!
I think the key here was...tension.
You can have aspects like stealth...combat...gadgets. But the core facet that ties it all together is the need to succeed.
The objective is not enough for a player. Tension for a player is created through obstacles and forcing them to adapt to the situation.
In short...you have to make the player feel as if they are at a disadvantage. Not all the time, the Arkham games had bouts where you could freely enjoy your power and vent frustration on the poor schmucks working for the big bad. But what makes it good is this lets you explore the power and PROGRESSING, merely the act of MOVING STORY FORWARD, tells the game 'time to put you to the test'.
I feel like nothing really embodies this concept of tension more than the absolute mindf*ck of the Scarecrow Jumpscare. If you've seen it you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. It's something you do not expect. It throws you out of your comfort zone not as a character, but as a PLAYER. And it likely makes you unsettled for the rest of your play session if not wary for the remainder of the game.
Admittedly the Detective mode doesn't really help the game much. The tension aspect is what drives things forward. And Detective mode is an extremely safe element, something you use when and because you won't be interrupted (mostly). I for one found it kind of nice to have, but perhaps Detective mode should have taken a more passive route and forced the player to directly solve problems...actually challenge your intelligence so that when you succeeded you felt smarter, like you knew the enemy now and could pick them apart.
Kind of like being Batman.
Honestly the combat itself is fairly powerful, but what makes it exceptional is how it ties into your ability to deal with a situation. Boss fights were kind of canned and I think more than a bit scripted in how you played them which I think contributed to how unfun they might have felt.
But those moments where you find a dark...quiet space. Where you have the time to watch everyone...plan your attack...wait for opportunity...and then strike without warning and tear your foes apart...being rewarded by seeing hordes of enemies crumble before you like so many Jenga blocks...those are truly special.
Arkam asylum: best atmosphere
Arkham city: best story
Arkham origin: best boss fight
Arkham Knight: best graphics, and ending (in my humble opinion.)
The Arkham knight combat was so smooth
Camel Slayer
Hell yeah it was.
Free flow is only simple until:
1) You play it above normal (no counter flash)
2) You want to get 100% completion
3) Your want to look _good_
Ten years old and it's still my fav superhero game!!
amazing intro, very well done sir.
What's odd is that Arkham Asylum - playstyle-wise - really wasn't that far removed form the previous Batman game: 'Batman Begins'.
Really it just added the sandbox element to the Batman Begins formula, and BOOM! Suddenly every superhero game was an Arkham clone.
Playing the Batman Begins game, there isnt a lot of similarities aside from the fear mechanic and some of the stealth, which itself was rather rudimentary comparatively.
I could see Rocksteady making taking notes from Batman Begins, but personally I cant see it being that much of an inspiration as opposed to any other piece of media.
I love this! But your gripe with the free flow combat made me a bit confused and a little angry. Playing on hard difficulty made it so there wasn't any of the counter attack symbols. You just had to do it using visual cues. Making you feel more like Batman. Also, you said something along the lines that it's hard to predict where your next attack might hit or if your close enough. But the higher your combo multiplyer is the further Batman is able to attack. That's it for my complaints though. I love your content and thank you for making this video!
I remember playing this game as a kid and falling in love with batman because of this game
Great video. Glad I watched it.