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here's some math for you (ULC) 7:00 if we are talking a full server (4 ppl), then there is roughly 6 minutes between sans turns you will usually have at least 1 determination player in a server, meaning total exp if you kill everyone being 80 (often you don't kill everyone, but also there is usually more than one dt player, so lets go with 80 exp) if we include time while you play sans its 8 minutes so its legit 10 exp per minute ***summary*** 8 minutes for a full thing of rounds 80 exp gained per sans round 10 exp a minute your welcome. side note : love the video you did a real good job with it!
Adrain actaully Unlocked the game a while ago. It's now called [Unrealest update] as to pose he said he was making a big update before abandoning it. It's just a little broken
Long ago, two games ruled roblox undertale fandom:UFS and ULC. One day, war broke out between the two games. After a long battle, the UFS were victorious. They sealed the ULC on the down page of games by using a video. Many years later... ULC Xolbor page... Legends say, that those who join the ULC, never become UFSians again.
@@MrFuzzy54568 well, ulcians and ujdians are more chill with eachother than ulcians and ufsians with eachother, and now ulc and ufs have a battle of who will get more playercount with their updates
@@Ostr0 Depends. The Rng on determination shards and the ludicrous gold requirements for items are super grindy when compared to ULC where you only need to get wins or do a few achievements to get the items. The only thing ULC has worse is the sans grind. Since UFS has no sans grind really other than wins. It's kinda reversed. Though the RNG update might be the worst grind of them all.
Tbh, even if the sanses in ULC are powerful, they still are beatable if players have a healer and prankster, which makes the round easier for the charas and result on them winning.
10:38 correction, 3D Boss Battles I tried UFS for a few minutes, got destroyed every single time, also not a big fan of the fact that like 90% of Ruins Dust's attacks are just fire attacks, like sure the Blaster and bones are there but they don't really contribute much, my opinion is that they could've replaced Ruins Dust with Aftertale Toriel or something idk, ULC atleast stayed true to fanon Dusttale with their Ruins Dust having only 1 fire related attack (of course, these are just some minor critiques from what I've seen of the game)
ufs has their own take on dust it isn't based off the fanon game. also if you want to get better at ufs i'd say the tip for new players using the faded ribbon for ragdoll break and a weapon that can give s. (if you're new it'll make playing easier)
Coming back to this, i gotta say, the UFS devs focused the fan animations for the gaster blasters, while ULC focused on the sprite of the blaster.@@overuseanimations4590
I used to play ULC when it first released but then that account of mine got hacked and also I grown tired of ULC and gave up on it and waiting for something new till I see UFS I’m quite excited cuz the good movements and other stuffs but when it got released I enjoyed it pretty much but then got bored cuz nothing else to do and boring so I changed to ULC after for so long and I love ULC back so much now I love all of its themes also characters ULC wins no 🧢❤❤❤
@@SensorIsHere nu uh music ulc lobby ufs models a lot of people say ufs stole a couple but still there stuf is better new player friendly ulc gameplay sorta ufs sorta ulc for sans team it’s ulc cause it’s more logical to have stamina or hp then only dodges but for the chara team it’s 50/50 ulc has more weapons and morphs but ufs has better Graphics so I gotta give this to to ulc so in my opinion ulc wins if I forgot somthing tell me
@@SensorIsHere its relatively debatable whether which is better. ULC has usually much faster paced gameplay (and no ragdoll, because UFS really did NOT need that) with much more longevity, while UFS has a much easier grind to max out, but struggles with the purpose to use a character through out (and not just abandon it for Outer)
Btw, I would say UFS has highly skilled gameplay. At around 12:19 you talk about how a 1v1 between bad time sans and a chara is an easy win for bad time sans. But I've actually 1v1 and solo'd almost all the characters in the game and I'm not even a sweat. Another thing though is why didn't you talk about the UFS intros? I mean shit makes all the characters look so good. With dust's intro being him literally kill Toriel. And lastly, aren't skins meant to be purely cosmetic? I mean look at COD and CSGO
as an non deplorable PROTO-GEN who's an normal functioning non waste of organs and actually has some outside experience or intelligence. i see this as an absolute win as ulc beating ufs
The second he mentioned bonewalker in upc I was like "if he says that's op I'm going to forever call him captain obvious" and then he immediately says it's op 😭 like bro it's an event char that requires x2 as many wins as dusbelief no shizzlers, also lowtier is insanely good you capping, I agree with everything else tho
So i can conclude in the end that visuals are better in ufs, but battling system better in ulc. I personally like the stamina system more, because you cant just spam every ability and win(we dont talk about neutral and last bread sans) so you actually need to be skilled to win as both team members, even though the balancing in ulc is a pure dogshit i still like it more than the dodge system
No offense, but i feel like bro aint good to rate. "Good balancing"? Yeah sure bro, i play ULC cause they got better balancing, some UFS sans can 1shot you (HORROR SANS.), you stop an attack by getting 0.01 HP taken out by 0.1 cm of a bone, and the fact that the visual get too overwhelming on some characters (OUTER WITH HIS DOMAIN EXPANSION.), AND LETS NOT FORGET THE FACT THAT WITH THE NEW UPDATE MORE SKINS GOT ADDED, LIKE 30 OF THEM, AND ONLY 1 NEW CHARACTER. (ALSO, CREATIVITY? BRO THEY ARE LITERALLY COPY PASTE ATTACKS, ULC HAS MORE VARIETY EVEN WITH 3DBB, EPIC, RED, HELL EVEN HARDTALE HAS MORE VARIETY)
tbh, UFS' legacy models were much better than current models (since the current ones are too realistic but hey if people like it then they like it.) ULC is also on UFS' models.
pretty sure that the exp given is now 10 i think it was 20 until broken promises update to compensate for data wipe since Old ULC and New ULC are completely seperate games therefore data couldn't be transferred also the door in UFS IS an event confirmed by devs
cool video but i think you should have had picked other characters for the ulc balancing, you said its pretty wacky (idk if i wrote that correctly) but you chose: a 800 wins character wich you need to kill 250 charas just to use, low tier fell (wich if used well is broken) an event character that is bad until you get the second upgrade (400 wins and 400 xp), as well as its final upgrade wich costs 6666 xp (334 charas killed) and 2666 wins, hardtale sans (wich is not that bad to fight if you know what your doing, just pretty long to fight), horror sans (your perfectly right on this nerf horror sans) and neutral sans (get 3000 xp with a character often considered worse than no upgrade litteltale. tbh you should have had talked about how broken lb is also the balancing in ufs isnt that great: PACIFIST can one shot combo you like its tsb or smth, swap sans can make basically unavoidable attacks, the souls are basically useless and good luck beating a high wins sans team character with how bad most weapons are. also you should have had mentioned the extremely annoying chat talking about how ufs is the best game ever i am not saying ulc is good or ufs is bad, both are pretty good but have their flaws (im looking at you lb sans from ulc and swap papyrus from ufs), im just saying you were pretty bias on the balancing part
Undertale final Showdown skins do have an advantage all though small and was shown but not acknowledged. DustDust for example has a much more narrow map than the normal skin, making it harder to dodge. This also has cons, such as you have to use your moves a bit more, charas can attack you faster and easier. And there's also no cutscene I guess. Enforcer has a leveled map instead of a straight and flat which can let you dodge the gun sometimes. Also the least important one is Western swap sans which everyone can get, free. But it just skips the cutscene, making it faster.
@@cloak7863 they are regardless, it's mostly dust dust that people say is unfair because everyone is used to the open mao so being pur in a small map with dust is extremely unfair to them as they have a hard time dosging.
I like ULC's blasters, it's more cartoony and gives the correct vibe more than the other one in UFS where it's complexed in design You people can have opinions but my opinion is that ULC's blasters are better.
did you just call ufs balanced? they recently added rounds with 2 players and dont even get me started on fells blaster hitboxes when paired with a local ut sans. also dont forget how pacifist has a 1 shot combo (and all sanses have insanely high tick rates) while in ULC only SOME of the characters are absurdly op, not 90% of them
dodge cancel to not get one shot, not alll sanses have high tick what and fell blaster hitboxes are normal also duals and ffa are there for testing yeah
also yeah i think ulc themes are much better than ufs, ufs themes are mostly not fitting with characters i like in ufs is a bigbang but eeeeeevery soundtrack in ulc is very good also balance.. balance? uh alright im not gonna tell that ufs is balanced yeah okay horror pacifist and swap sans are pretty balanced but outer sans is overpowered. Ulc ui is awful in my opinion its just.. i have no words about it just.. a screen with sanses? ehh its 0/10. Artist skills in ufs are much better i think, and game mechanic in ufs with crafting is really fun that you have to grind very much time and after getting shards on outer sans you are happy soo.. i think your opinion is well but in my opinion ufs solos because i didnt saw better models in roblox history. Visuals are also very good how you said (also were developing game undertale shadowed paths its not come yet but ill tell you when it will be done also if you want i can send you some sneak peaks (sorry for my awful english skills)
honestly ufs takes it for me, not only i feel it's easier to get into but it's also alot more dynamic, while ulc has more stuff and each weapon can make your experience alot more different it lacks alot on it's core mechanics and makes the game feel blander, i think that if ufs manages to pump out a bunch of characters it'll be able to dethrone ulc
having skins do nothing for ufs is a good thing in my opinion since a lot of them are paid or limited time and it wouldnt be too fair. but it would be cool at the same time but overall its probably for the best.
Really up to how you want the gameplay to be. Slower yet overall easier to max out is UFS, but if you want a game that will have you using characters for a good amount of time with faster pace is more ULC. Both are good games, but complete opposites when it comes to gameplay (I will say its probably harder to get good at UFS because of the sheer amount of maxed players. Yet that can go with ULC to, but to each their own)
If you ask me, ulc is overall better. Ulc points: •Characters (And skins that make a whole new character) •Skins • Themes • Grinding ( ufs is too basic. Just do quests then move on. But ulc has a whole character upgrade system. Also ufs win gaps are insane) •Content (so much different au 's and sanes) • Models (New models just show how ulc is just better at modeling. With the new sins of the past update we got the main 3 paps got remodeled and their very good) Ufs Points: • Ui (menu) • Visuals (those maps are fire ima admit even if i dont like ufs) • balances (ulc balances and hitboxes be trippin) •Items (ulc has no items other than weapons while ufs has healing items wich is cool) Both games tied: • Creativity (sins of the past update gave us some insane creative attacks. Ufs and ulc just has good creativity.)
if you'd ask me, I really hate progress locks. it feels like the quests are just too hard, and you're forced to do them. also, I think ULC is much more balanced. ULC takes the win for me. EDIT: I completely forgot the fact that they straight up butchered kindness. there are some items in ULC tho. like for example, the flesh that horror axe gives you when a teamate dies. It does make sense that UFS takes the win for items.
@@thecoolpeoplesaddressfacts. One time i just had 1 quest left for getting out of the progress lock. Then my quests reseted with some bug💀. Havent played much ufs since
The main thing that makes me like UFS more is just gameplay it's so hard to play ulc now and this is coming from someone who has a reset and over 2000 wins in ULC
@@shannecy9801 Ngl i think the only reason UFS is ahead of UJD rn is because of the gambling. Not for the actual gameplay. Seems like UFS isn't really doing that well. Recent updates aren't even that good.
UFS would be really cool if it was run well and not by someone who encourages his friends to post NSFW and racial slurs in the general chat of a server predominately filled with teenagers and then proceed to delete all evidence of it and ban anyone who speaks about it
balancing is kinda garbage for both ufs and ulc. you have ufs with early stages swap sans being able to literally solo everyone in the round and you got horror sans which can literally teleport to you at the start of the match and win without being hit once. and for ulc?. it was already mentioned in the vid
The balancing in ulc is mostly fair. Some of the example you showed like hard sans and bone walker where there final upgrades. Characters like bone walker take a lot of exp. Neutral sans is hard if you don't focus on attacking.
I've tried to play UFS, it just really wasn't my style. It felt way to slow paced and the Chara team just isn't very enjoyable to play as. Still a good game though
empty gun is a REALLY good match against him but ice ring is eh... outertrident is good but trident and knife killer are not that good (i speak from experience since i have 10k on horror)
@@snowy_flakey5404 snowring is the most annoying and busted weapon dude, whole community hates it and no, 70 hp nerf doesn't change fact that it's annoying as fuck with no cd ice shock and multi hit m1
I wasnt really able to get into UFS just because of how toxic it felt, some of the loqding screens are just bragging about how “ULC has such bad gameplay we are so much better than them” I can’t wait till the ULC papyrus update lol
What’s funny is that ufs complains about ulc having bad gameplay despite having gameplay that is honestly worse (progress locks, useless souls/armors, and a lot of RNG for the events)
@@Thelaserman20that's.. the community making fun of ulc, the ufs devs are joking and ulc is OK with that. Also the armours are NOT useless, btw for the souls, the devs know that they are useless anyway, they are reworking the souls for that (also ulc has horrible souls that are more useless than ufs) , also the same goes to events, horror part 2 is going to be not rng based(hopefully)
@@Thelaserman20 im a (sub-)dev, and i know its a joke, some devs literaly play ulc and talk about it in the GC, we shit-talk ulc as a joke, just like coca-cola shit-talks pepsi and vice versa, its all jokes, we could never actualy hate the classic, the one that made SvC famous
Yeahh both community sucks. People are just overhyping ulc community wayy too much. Also when you get good weapons, ufs and ulc become very fun Imo I even call it the same creativity.
@@overuseanimations4590 i would say ULC’s community is ten times better since every interaction i’ve had with the UFS community has always been negative towards me
@@MasterLink16448 well, then you are extremely lucky for that ulc treats you. a couple days ago I joined a ulc server and since I lost with horror sans 2nd upgrade someone called me "poopy pants LOL" And then the whole server agreed with him and decided to just team up with me. Not saying ufs is not toxic, i have met some horrible people there, but the ulc community is as bad considering the ulc community legits makes fun of ufs devs for no fucking reason apperantly.(No, the ufs devs were joking with ulc being garbage and vice versa, heck, even ralsei said that ulc has good models and they were not a bad game, it's just the old staff and hvoax making fun of ulc like for real.)
@@overuseanimations4590 i've also had bad encounters in ULC, but i have them more often in UFS. one person literally (in ULC) told me i had "skill issue" for no apparent reason. but glad to hear your side of the story so that we could atleast settle on someting.
Okay, listen, you can be sands in the first game.Who's obviously winning?But you get in jump even if you have too many dodges you get in jump in , it's already hard to get the kills when the first start with the character😊
hardtale is balanced btw, one of the most balanced ULC characters even (literally both teams have a chance at beating each other which is good, because hardtale ain't that good unless you actually know the moveset and the combos which means you would become a hardtale main without realizing)
@@SansINess53 for ulc there is no levels, and wins pretty fast after you get lots of dupe skins trying to get that one last skin that evades you but took me about from the time I earned disbelief till I nearly got 1.2k wins mostly because first phase is Stand back humans and watch my ultimate def without many good attacking move besides the faster blaster
@@sanstheskeleton3766 if you reach 1000 wins and have a reset, you basically completed 100% of the game but upgrades are optional to make your favorite character more useful as side content and skins are side content.
hope yall enjoy the long ass video that took me a while to finish. (btw its my first time making this type of content.)
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“The only good themes in UFS” is crazy.
(Note: this is opinion based so it doesn’t rlly matter anyway though.)
I wanna know what are these graphics you’re using cuz it looks awesome.
I use bloxstrap which gives better graphics then normal roblox
But mobile players the lag is ...
@@snowy_flakey5404how you do that
I like how this guy isn’t bias and he treats both games equally.
Only bias in "balancing" part
@@friendlyguest4118 wait till he fights outertales domain 💀
"isnt bias" my ass🤣
Comparing UFS to uLC is like comparing that autistic kid who hits everybody and shits on the ground to some regular dude
Ulc looks the almost same as ufs 💀
9:34 Bro is facing against Dio 😭😭😭
(Great video ngl)
😃👍
I GOT THE REFERENCE
underrated comment fr
Bro thinks hes Polnareff😭
ZA WAARUDO
see,i think everybody agrees that ulc osts are simply bangers
Ur right ufs themes sucks only bigbang is good
yeah, ulc themes are waaay better, but I feel like ulc themes doesnt really fit in a slow pace game. Broken promise is a clear example of that
@@zzzDust WHY DOES NOBODY MEANTION JUDGE TILL DEATH 😭😭😭😭
@@blazayyt8990 Slow pace? What do you mean slow pace?
@@bearthebeast5917most ulc characters gave to constantly play on defense due to the stamina system
9:33 Ain't no way. HE GOT THE DIO TREATMENT!!111!!11!11!
Ive been WAITING for this video.
here's some math for you (ULC) 7:00
if we are talking a full server (4 ppl), then there is roughly 6 minutes between sans turns
you will usually have at least 1 determination player in a server, meaning total exp if you kill everyone being 80
(often you don't kill everyone, but also there is usually more than one dt player, so lets go with 80 exp)
if we include time while you play sans its 8 minutes
so its legit 10 exp per minute
***summary***
8 minutes for a full thing of rounds
80 exp gained per sans round
10 exp a minute
your welcome.
side note : love the video you did a real good job with it!
As someone play ulc from like 4 years not the new version the old version of the game it's sad that the old version locked 😔
No burn the old one tucked compared to the new one
Adrain actaully Unlocked the game a while ago. It's now called [Unrealest update] as to pose he said he was making a big update before abandoning it. It's just a little broken
Long ago, two games ruled roblox undertale fandom:UFS and ULC.
One day, war broke out between the two games.
After a long battle, the UFS were victorious.
They sealed the ULC on the down page of games by using a video.
Many years later...
ULC Xolbor page...
Legends say, that those who join the ULC, never become UFSians again.
"name the fallen ufsian"
ujd staring at ur soul in the corner:
*DUSTDUST theme starts to play*
This is ujd and ULC, not ULC and ufs
@@MrFuzzy54568 well, ulcians and ujdians are more chill with eachother than ulcians and ufsians with eachother, and now ulc and ufs have a battle of who will get more playercount with their updates
Sadly ujd have been left behind by these 2 and is doomed to fall if it doesnt magically get better models and work which is a low chance
Ulc has the longest and most painful sans grind, Ufs has the most painful chara grind.
yes
*the progress lock...*
True
ULC is the worst grind wise
@@Ostr0 Depends. The Rng on determination shards and the ludicrous gold requirements for items are super grindy when compared to ULC where you only need to get wins or do a few achievements to get the items. The only thing ULC has worse is the sans grind. Since UFS has no sans grind really other than wins. It's kinda reversed. Though the RNG update might be the worst grind of them all.
nice video good work
"UFC" 💀💀💀💀💀
edit : "3D battle mode" 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿
IT'S UNDERTALE 3D BOSS BATTLES
Yea i sometimes call it that (all the time) also i didt know what 3dbb means until now so thanks for the new information👍
@@snowy_flakey5404 oh alr!
3DBB is from that ut roblox game (one of the firsts), named UNDERTALE 3D Boss Battles
Yeah it's not that easy to guess
@@snowy_flakey5404so who in your opinion won? Don’t say both.
honestly ulc won, BUT ufs might update more in the future and be better then ulc but for now its ulc
Undertale Final Corridor @@snowy_flakey5404
Tbh, even if the sanses in ULC are powerful, they still are beatable if players have a healer and prankster, which makes the round easier for the charas and result on them winning.
But its rare to find those chara players
@@snowy_flakey5404 you know you could tell your teammates or yourself to be a healer
@@snowy_flakey5404 also! Ice ring is rusher type and also healer type.
No bruh the chara team stops out any sans with no exp on them unless there like the strongest in the game making it hard to even get exp
@@dumbedits3701 even little hyper dusts struggles whit kris and real knife that's it.
10:38 correction, 3D Boss Battles
I tried UFS for a few minutes, got destroyed every single time, also not a big fan of the fact that like 90% of Ruins Dust's attacks are just fire attacks, like sure the Blaster and bones are there but they don't really contribute much, my opinion is that they could've replaced Ruins Dust with Aftertale Toriel or something idk, ULC atleast stayed true to fanon Dusttale with their Ruins Dust having only 1 fire related attack (of course, these are just some minor critiques from what I've seen of the game)
ufs has their own take on dust it isn't based off the fanon game. also if you want to get better at ufs i'd say the tip for new players using the faded ribbon for ragdoll break and a weapon that can give s. (if you're new it'll make playing easier)
considering the blaster models, I feel the UFS' blaster is too organic for a laser device, so yeah I prefer ULC's blaster since it feels more robotic.
Canon sans blasters looks organic and ufs blasters are similar to the Canon sans blasters, while ulc does it their own way
It was weirdly too organic more organic than canon sans' blaster.@@overuseanimations4590
Coming back to this, i gotta say, the UFS devs focused the fan animations for the gaster blasters, while ULC focused on the sprite of the blaster.@@overuseanimations4590
Ngl I’m pretty sure ulcs visuals could be better but Im pretty sure adrian like messed up the lighting really bad or something like that 😭
How would you feel if you were in the middle of broken promises and dodging blasters won't it feel intense?
POWERS. DURABILITY. HAX. EMOTION.
POWERS
i dont think this is a question anymore
8:32 how do we tell Him
Explain
@@LookabovethisHe called sschara a she as a joke, I just timed it wrong
I used to play ULC when it first released but then that account of mine got hacked and also I grown tired of ULC and gave up on it and waiting for something new till I see UFS I’m quite excited cuz the good movements and other stuffs but when it got released I enjoyed it pretty much but then got bored cuz nothing else to do and boring so I changed to ULC after for so long and I love ULC back so much now I love all of its themes also characters ULC wins no 🧢❤❤❤
U fr spat on my face when u didn't say judge till death is a good theme in ufs
i honestly forgot to include thats another good theme my bad
@@snowy_flakey5404ruins dust has such a good theme 😢
Ur trippin jtd is mid
tbh the intro is a banger
I love the fact that you played Silver Lining which is an ULC theme in the background of the UFS gameplay.
13:40 I think you can count ashes of dust too
Tbh, dustbelief and red and outerdust and fresh have their own maps but battle mode sans' map is used for time paradox
Guys so who won
he didnt say but its pretty clear ufs is better
@@SensorIsHere nu uh music ulc lobby ufs models a lot of people say ufs stole a couple but still there stuf is better new player friendly ulc gameplay sorta ufs sorta ulc for sans team it’s ulc cause it’s more logical to have stamina or hp then only dodges but for the chara team it’s 50/50 ulc has more weapons and morphs but ufs has better Graphics so I gotta give this to to ulc so in my opinion ulc wins if I forgot somthing tell me
@@SensorIsHere its relatively debatable whether which is better. ULC has usually much faster paced gameplay (and no ragdoll, because UFS really did NOT need that) with much more longevity, while UFS has a much easier grind to max out, but struggles with the purpose to use a character through out (and not just abandon it for Outer)
1500 in ULC at the moment
47 in UFS… lmao
ngl the ufs hype was NOT needed for the state the game was in upon release
Btw, I would say UFS has highly skilled gameplay. At around 12:19 you talk about how a 1v1 between bad time sans and a chara is an easy win for bad time sans. But I've actually 1v1 and solo'd almost all the characters in the game and I'm not even a sweat. Another thing though is why didn't you talk about the UFS intros? I mean shit makes all the characters look so good. With dust's intro being him literally kill Toriel. And lastly, aren't skins meant to be purely cosmetic? I mean look at COD and CSGO
I also personally like the UFS OST better than the ULC OST
12:01 hey its me right here:D didn't know you're actually youtuber lol
🤫🧏♂️
Ulc vs Ufs is like Coca-Cola vs pepsi
as an non deplorable PROTO-GEN who's an normal functioning non waste of organs and actually has some outside experience or intelligence. i see this as an absolute win as ulc beating ufs
The second he mentioned bonewalker in upc I was like "if he says that's op I'm going to forever call him captain obvious" and then he immediately says it's op 😭 like bro it's an event char that requires x2 as many wins as dusbelief no shizzlers, also lowtier is insanely good you capping, I agree with everything else tho
So i can conclude in the end that visuals are better in ufs, but battling system better in ulc. I personally like the stamina system more, because you cant just spam every ability and win(we dont talk about neutral and last bread sans) so you actually need to be skilled to win as both team members, even though the balancing in ulc is a pure dogshit i still like it more than the dodge system
Also yeah osts are definitely better in ulc that wasnt even a question
No offense, but i feel like bro aint good to rate. "Good balancing"? Yeah sure bro, i play ULC cause they got better balancing, some UFS sans can 1shot you (HORROR SANS.), you stop an attack by getting 0.01 HP taken out by 0.1 cm of a bone, and the fact that the visual get too overwhelming on some characters (OUTER WITH HIS DOMAIN EXPANSION.), AND LETS NOT FORGET THE FACT THAT WITH THE NEW UPDATE MORE SKINS GOT ADDED, LIKE 30 OF THEM, AND ONLY 1 NEW CHARACTER. (ALSO, CREATIVITY? BRO THEY ARE LITERALLY COPY PASTE ATTACKS, ULC HAS MORE VARIETY EVEN WITH 3DBB, EPIC, RED, HELL EVEN HARDTALE HAS MORE VARIETY)
My fav ufs theme is "cosmic expansion"
me too bro.. i feel like satoru gojo
tbh, UFS' legacy models were much better than current models (since the current ones are too realistic but hey if people like it then they like it.) ULC is also on UFS' models.
Current, yeah. But ones like last breath and disbelief, ..no
When you join a random ulc server and finding a person using little hyperdust:man we need to nerf this kid
pretty sure that the exp given is now 10
i think it was 20 until broken promises update to compensate for data wipe since Old ULC and New ULC are completely seperate games therefore data couldn't be transferred
also the door in UFS IS an event confirmed by devs
No they permanently increased it to 20 (and are going to permanently increase it to 30 next update)
Fun Facts With Teery #1:
Without true reset,your get 10 exp per kill and with true reset you get 20 exp per kill
@@TotallyNot_Teerythis, is objectively wrong. I didn’t reset and I get 20 exp per kill
@@TotallyNot_Teeryvery wrong infact completely off the truth
3:44 what?
Nadir.
NADIR
cool video but i think you should have had picked other characters for the ulc balancing, you said its pretty
wacky (idk if i wrote that correctly) but you chose: a 800 wins character wich you need to kill 250 charas just to use, low tier fell (wich if used well is broken) an event character that is bad until you get the second upgrade (400 wins and 400 xp), as well as its final upgrade wich costs 6666 xp (334 charas killed) and 2666 wins, hardtale sans (wich is not that bad to fight if you know what your doing, just pretty long to fight), horror sans (your perfectly right on this nerf horror sans) and neutral sans (get 3000 xp with a character often considered worse than no upgrade litteltale. tbh you should have had talked about how broken lb is
also the balancing in ufs isnt that great: PACIFIST can one shot combo you like its tsb or smth, swap sans can make basically unavoidable attacks, the souls are basically useless and good luck beating a high wins sans team character with how bad most weapons are. also you should have had mentioned the extremely annoying chat talking about how ufs is the best game ever
i am not saying ulc is good or ufs is bad, both are pretty good but have their flaws (im looking at you lb sans from ulc and swap papyrus from ufs), im just saying you were pretty bias on the balancing part
Lowkey was hoping grim fate was going to get mentioned.
Grim fates start sounds like a circus theme but besides that it's decent
Undertale final Showdown skins do have an advantage all though small and was shown but not acknowledged.
DustDust for example has a much more narrow map than the normal skin, making it harder to dodge. This also has cons, such as you have to use your moves a bit more, charas can attack you faster and easier. And there's also no cutscene I guess.
Enforcer has a leveled map instead of a straight and flat which can let you dodge the gun sometimes.
Also the least important one is Western swap sans which everyone can get, free. But it just skips the cutscene, making it faster.
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I feel like all of those things weren't meant to be advantageous
@@cloak7863 they are regardless, it's mostly dust dust that people say is unfair because everyone is used to the open mao so being pur in a small map with dust is extremely unfair to them as they have a hard time dosging.
The title: COMPARISON
The intro: I'll tell you wich is better
The video: doesn't say
yea i kinda just listed their pros and cons🗿
Btw about that tornado thing and dogs on pacifist they copied it from ulc lite they did it first same with snow tho they only made the fun variants
8:48 Bud really forgot to put off low quality mode
I don't care about anybody says these are other people's opinions but go for the game that you like
annihilation isn't a theme, it's a theme remix, you could've included turning the tide.
3dbb actually means 3d boss battles which was an really nostalgic and pretty aged undertale boss game that people dont know anymore
I like ULC's blasters, it's more cartoony and gives the correct vibe more than the other one in UFS where it's complexed in design
You people can have opinions but my opinion is that ULC's blasters are better.
i prefer ufs's more serious blasters which i would imagine blasters would look like as a 3d model
ufs's blasters are more accurate to the actual sprite used in undertale
@@p3eak they are more spikier to me more than needed but ULC found a balance between realistic and cartoony
@@p3eak you should actually try to see the gaster blaster model if you wanna understand
My current fit is green sans but the one at the end was cool. Any chance you could tell me what clothes you used for him to look like that? W vid btw
Ufs is cooking up some bangers for characters that arent added yet, like snowdin dust
yea and ulc is doing the same.
Core dust is in the works for ulcers
This aged poorly💀
@Iwillblocktalesthistale on god 🙏 I really hoped they locked in but they fucking sold so hard
Well well well...
did you just call ufs balanced? they recently added rounds with 2 players and dont even get me started on fells blaster hitboxes when paired with a local ut sans. also dont forget how pacifist has a 1 shot combo (and all sanses have insanely high tick rates) while in ULC only SOME of the characters are absurdly op, not 90% of them
Mannnnn quit your Y A P P I N I AINT READIN AALLDAT
very true and also SPEAR
CHILL it was for testing they are gonna balance or delete it also spear is already in balancing progress.
The j giving kids lung cancer
dodge cancel to not get one shot, not alll sanses have high tick what and fell blaster hitboxes are normal also duals and ffa are there for testing yeah
also yeah i think ulc themes are much better than ufs, ufs themes are mostly not fitting with characters i like in ufs is a bigbang but eeeeeevery soundtrack in ulc is very good also balance.. balance? uh alright im not gonna tell that ufs is balanced yeah okay horror pacifist and swap sans are pretty balanced but outer sans is overpowered. Ulc ui is awful in my opinion its just.. i have no words about it just.. a screen with sanses? ehh its 0/10. Artist skills in ufs are much better i think, and game mechanic in ufs with crafting is really fun that you have to grind very much time and after getting shards on outer sans you are happy soo.. i think your opinion is well but in my opinion ufs solos because i didnt saw better models in roblox history. Visuals are also very good how you said (also were developing game undertale shadowed paths its not come yet but ill tell you when it will be done also if you want i can send you some sneak peaks (sorry for my awful english skills)
What is bro saying
@@sebastianserafinski9497 shh
@@sebastianserafinski9497you can't read?
Hi ulc artist here
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No not really alot of of ufs themes don't fit the character an example being ruins dust
tbh all ULC has to do is literally some stats
i use to play the og game for ULC
i'm glad they transfered gamepasses but sadly not badges
Ulc when he remodels everything: Our battle will be LEGENDARY! (ngl, its debatable who wins.)
honestly ufs takes it for me, not only i feel it's easier to get into but it's also alot more dynamic, while ulc has more stuff and each weapon can make your experience alot more different it lacks alot on it's core mechanics and makes the game feel blander, i think that if ufs manages to pump out a bunch of characters it'll be able to dethrone ulc
@@namelessdudeguyNgl, i agree, both games has pros and cons
@@idk-em9df yes
having skins do nothing for ufs is a good thing in my opinion since a lot of them are paid or limited time and it wouldnt be too fair. but it would be cool at the same time but overall its probably for the best.
Were still supposed to get skin update with gambling
I feel like the gamepasses are insane priced.. 200 for emotes?
8:29 Yea sadly
i told you this video will have a popularity
why the hell does ufs lobby look SO DARK (shadows)
thinking about committing to one of these games but Idrk which one
UFS for sure, it has less content, but is more fun and is overall higher quality too.
ok ty
You could do the same thing as me I finished Ufs at 100% so I'm playing UFC until they update Ufs again
Really up to how you want the gameplay to be. Slower yet overall easier to max out is UFS, but if you want a game that will have you using characters for a good amount of time with faster pace is more ULC. Both are good games, but complete opposites when it comes to gameplay
(I will say its probably harder to get good at UFS because of the sheer amount of maxed players. Yet that can go with ULC to, but to each their own)
If you ask me, ulc is overall better.
Ulc points:
•Characters (And skins that make a whole new character)
•Skins
• Themes
• Grinding ( ufs is too basic. Just do quests then move on. But ulc has a whole character upgrade system. Also ufs win gaps are insane)
•Content (so much different au 's and sanes)
• Models (New models just show how ulc is just better at modeling. With the new sins of the past update we got the main 3 paps got remodeled and their very good)
Ufs Points:
• Ui (menu)
• Visuals (those maps are fire ima admit even if i dont like ufs)
• balances (ulc balances and hitboxes be trippin)
•Items (ulc has no items other than weapons while ufs has healing items wich is cool)
Both games tied:
• Creativity (sins of the past update gave us some insane creative attacks. Ufs and ulc just has good creativity.)
if you'd ask me, I really hate progress locks. it feels like the quests are just too hard, and you're forced to do them. also, I think ULC is much more balanced. ULC takes the win for me.
EDIT: I completely forgot the fact that they straight up butchered kindness. there are some items in ULC tho. like for example, the flesh that horror axe gives you when a teamate dies. It does make sense that UFS takes the win for items.
@@thecoolpeoplesaddressfacts. One time i just had 1 quest left for getting out of the progress lock. Then my quests reseted with some bug💀. Havent played much ufs since
Dust frisk still has items(with kindness too) but don't quote me + horror axe but thats about it tbh
0:25 so true it's literally facts btw I'm on a iPad so yea that's why my pfp is different
استمر يا حلو من معجبينك العرب ❤😂
Continue, sweetie, from your Arab fans😂❤
مشكور يل حبيب👍
@@snowy_flakey5404 ما توقعت ترد علي 😂
كنت متردد ماأدري لاش😐
@@snowy_flakey5404 اتوقع ما ودك تستهدف الجمهور العربي و ما الومك صراحة علشان كذا كنت متردد و غير كذا من العربي الي يلعب الفان جيمز لي اندرتيل غيرنا
btw correction. if you have reset badge you get 2x exp-
I like both games tbh. Still a great video
criminal catcher not being metioned in the good ufs songs is a crime
This game might haven’t seen visuals, but it didn’t take three years for ULC did it
7 months later time have passed
UFS have less player than UJD daily
And ULC is ready for "one of the biggest" update
Couldn't agree more
Keep up the good work btw 👍
The main thing that makes me like UFS more is just gameplay it's so hard to play ulc now and this is coming from someone who has a reset and over 2000 wins in ULC
where did judgement day go:(
The og its good for an old game but yeah the game cant compare with the games now sorry burh
@@shannecy9801 Ngl i think the only reason UFS is ahead of UJD rn is because of the gambling. Not for the actual gameplay. Seems like UFS isn't really doing that well. Recent updates aren't even that good.
@@thecoolpeoplesaddress yeah its failing us :(
you say that as if it hasn't been doing so the whole time
UFS would be really cool if it was run well and not by someone who encourages his friends to post NSFW and racial slurs in the general chat of a server predominately filled with teenagers and then proceed to delete all evidence of it and ban anyone who speaks about it
And if the devs/community quit insulting other svc games and their communities for no reason
hey, im a sub-dev, and the game is not run by "the groomer we dont say the name"(hvoax) anymore
balancing is kinda garbage for both ufs and ulc. you have ufs with early stages swap sans being able to literally solo everyone in the round and you got horror sans which can literally teleport to you at the start of the match and win without being hit once. and for ulc?. it was already mentioned in the vid
The difference of ULC and UFC is that ULC sans is smaller and thicker and UFC is taller and thinner. Boom.
Ulc does have some balancing issues but damn you gotta work for some of those upgrades 😮💨
I find it CRIMINAL that you didn’t put ashes to dust and enough in the ufs ost section 😭
The balancing in ulc is mostly fair. Some of the example you showed like hard sans and bone walker where there final upgrades. Characters like bone walker take a lot of exp. Neutral sans is hard if you don't focus on attacking.
its not hard if u have something called friends.
@@snowy_flakey5404 or alts
Tbh, ULC made 3DBB annoying to redo the pain of the OG game, being campy and spammy which is why 3DBB sans stinks.
me when ribstalker:
Tip for every one who plays undertale last cordoor : the much hp the person does will be your stamina
The better theme makes the character more intense.
I love seeing pixels all over my screen on 1080p
IS JUST A CHILD 8:31
I know you might diss the balance of the games but just be happy it is no ujd
Grrr where's the credit I gave you the theme idea👹👺👺😡😡
I've tried to play UFS, it just really wasn't my style. It felt way to slow paced and the Chara team just isn't very enjoyable to play as. Still a good game though
Ralseiprotector cannot accept that something is better than him ngl
Horror cant be nerfed because he has a lot of weakness the way for you kill him trident knife killer and outertrident the ice ring
empty gun is a REALLY good match against him but ice ring is eh... outertrident is good but trident and knife killer are not that good (i speak from experience since i have 10k on horror)
@@snowy_flakey5404 snowring is the most annoying and busted weapon dude, whole community hates it and no, 70 hp nerf doesn't change fact that it's annoying as fuck with no cd ice shock and multi hit m1
I wasnt really able to get into UFS just because of how toxic it felt, some of the loqding screens are just bragging about how “ULC has such bad gameplay we are so much better than them” I can’t wait till the ULC papyrus update lol
What’s funny is that ufs complains about ulc having bad gameplay despite having gameplay that is honestly worse (progress locks, useless souls/armors, and a lot of RNG for the events)
@@Thelaserman20that's.. the community making fun of ulc, the ufs devs are joking and ulc is OK with that.
Also the armours are NOT useless, btw for the souls, the devs know that they are useless anyway, they are reworking the souls for that (also ulc has horrible souls that are more useless than ufs) , also the same goes to events, horror part 2 is going to be not rng based(hopefully)
@@overuseanimations4590 It doesn't really sound like they're joking though, plus the ulc souls aren't too horrible
@@Thelaserman20 im a (sub-)dev, and i know its a joke, some devs literaly play ulc and talk about it in the GC, we shit-talk ulc as a joke, just like coca-cola shit-talks pepsi and vice versa, its all jokes, we could never actualy hate the classic, the one that made SvC famous
@@playerje4722 oh
i dont care how good ufs looks or creativity ulc is so much more fun and the community of it too
*i’m suprised the UFSians haven’t found your comment yet*
Yeahh both community sucks. People are just overhyping ulc community wayy too much.
Also when you get good weapons, ufs and ulc become very fun Imo I even call it the same creativity.
@@overuseanimations4590 i would say ULC’s community is ten times better since every interaction i’ve had with the UFS community has always been negative towards me
@@MasterLink16448 well, then you are extremely lucky for that ulc treats you. a couple days ago I joined a ulc server and since I lost with horror sans 2nd upgrade someone called me "poopy pants LOL" And then the whole server agreed with him and decided to just team up with me.
Not saying ufs is not toxic, i have met some horrible people there, but the ulc community is as bad considering the ulc community legits makes fun of ufs devs for no fucking reason apperantly.(No, the ufs devs were joking with ulc being garbage and vice versa, heck, even ralsei said that ulc has good models and they were not a bad game, it's just the old staff and hvoax making fun of ulc like for real.)
@@overuseanimations4590 i've also had bad encounters in ULC, but i have them more often in UFS. one person literally (in ULC) told me i had "skill issue" for no apparent reason. but glad to hear your side of the story so that we could atleast settle on someting.
Wait is that me in the stardin section- 2:24
(The bacon)
Okay, listen, you can be sands in the first game.Who's obviously winning?But you get in jump even if you have too many dodges you get in jump in , it's already hard to get the kills when the first start with the character😊
What about UJD?
Ujd is fun but the game’s been abandoned by one of the TWO devs, and the competition just kept getting better
13:40
What about Judge 'Till Death??
Judge till death and ashes to dust i forgot to mention and the rest are eh
Honestly i like most all of the UFS songs. it could be because i have mainly played UFS. but ehh. people have their own opinions. anyways good vid.
hardtale is balanced btw, one of the most balanced ULC characters even (literally both teams have a chance at beating each other which is good, because hardtale ain't that good unless you actually know the moveset and the combos which means you would become a hardtale main without realizing)
Never speak in the microphone again💀
@@snowy_flakey5404 shut up Mr.battling brawl
😞
The reason why most of the characters and upgrades in ulc are unbalanced is because you earn them and they're extremely hard to get
They just need to nerf the amount of exp or do a 2x exp on weekends like UFS
Then that would just make it too easy to get the upgrades it's very powerful because it is hard to get
@@dushberg ok let's make every upgrade cost 500 exp to make you stop
@@dushberg I'm saying they should nerf it a bit, like I don't know if 3500 exp for waterfall is worth it
It is
"take 4 hours"
The progress lock:
(I gave up and broke my monitor)
you suck lol
Ufs: deleting your hp in 1 second
Ulc: *camping*
Not always now they kinda nerfed it and we got bord we go fight now actually but we still need to stand still for a bit or we ded
If ULC is quite the grind wont that mean UJD is quite the hell?
Nah, it took me awhile I mean a long while to get dis paps fully upgraded
@@sanstheskeleton3766 not really, UJD has up to thousands of wins and you call disbelief grinding?
@@sanstheskeleton3766 how about grinding for 20k wins and a reset along with lv 20 how much grind is it?
@@SansINess53 for ulc there is no levels, and wins pretty fast after you get lots of dupe skins trying to get that one last skin that evades you but took me about from the time I earned disbelief till I nearly got 1.2k wins mostly because first phase is Stand back humans and watch my ultimate def without many good attacking move besides the faster blaster
@@sanstheskeleton3766 if you reach 1000 wins and have a reset, you basically completed 100% of the game but upgrades are optional to make your favorite character more useful as side content and skins are side content.