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The Lynchpin Project - respect and disrespect vs. the reality
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2024
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Terrence Howard offers $15000 to make a lynchpin fly with multirotor parts, Joshua Bardwell announces the project, and today Drone Mesh says that this whole affair disrespects the community. If this does not sound like a drama, then I don't know what does.
Let's talk about the part of the community that does not feel disrespected, is this worth the money ($15000 is not that much), can this be done in around 1.5 months, and what exactly has to be done.
If you decide to participate in the lynchpin, here are some practical pointers as well: standard PID, gyro, accelerometer, and a dynamic mixer.
Joshua Bardwell video: • Video
Drone Mesh video: • Video
The Lynchpin project web page www.terryslync...
Completely off topic: $45 in Rotor Riot store for a few 3D printed parts and sticks for the frame model is quite a lot to be honest. But it's my personal opinion.
0:00 Intro
0:08 Bardwell announces lynchpin
1:22 My take on the project
2:40 Drone Mesh response
2:56 Who is disrespected?
5:18 Technical challenges and pointers
12:49: Summary
14:48 Outro
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Drone PID tuning made simple th-cam.com/video/yA8p2FxIwqU/w-d-xo.html
I hate this trend to see everywhere reasons to be offended. Somebody offered a cool challenge, like on a hackaton - the more such challenges, the better. It would be pity if people would stop coming up with ideas and to proposing prizes for solving them in a fear to be called disrespectful.
The problem is not in challenges and how much money they might generate... the problem is who is initiating those challenges. Are we talking about that Terrence Howard? "Serial wife beater"? He even admitted he's guilty. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrence_Howard#:~:text=In%20a%20September%202015%20interview,in%20front%20of%20the%20kids.%22
The challenge is indeed an interesting one, I'd love to see a drone that can rotate in any direction without moving and move in any direction, but the negatives outweigh the positives of the challenge. You've only got about 6 weeks to come up with working prototype of a whole new concept of drone where you end up not owning the end product? And only $15,000? Someone with patents on such a drone could make a fortune and the creator not see a penny.
Developpers put an enormous amount of time and effort into the hobby and get paid next to nothing, while Chinese companies make a big profit of someone else's intellectual property....sometimes being offended is legit.
@@licensetodrive9930 Well, US is now first to file. Use the structure, solve it, and apply for the patent. :)
I'm with you. I don't think any disrespect was intended we are tinkering with this stuff anyways it's just another challenge
It has been solved! th-cam.com/video/p9DwwBEiXvM/w-d-xo.html by Peter Hall
Your analysis of the way the mixer must operate is one reason I find this project really fascinating. But it does help explain why maybe the $25k prize is not enough for the work involved. To say, "you just rotate the mixer based on the gravity vector" sounds simple but if the gravity vector is always affected by centrifugal force, it seems like the mixer will be really confused when the aircraft is moving and this can result in a feedback loop that makes the aircraft unstable.
1st substract taxes :)
2nd there is not that much time until the deadline
3rd there is no guarantee of winning
4th idea to rotate mixer is simple, math behind it will not be. Euler math is rather a no-go, quartenions have a better chance of succeeding
5th yes, gravity vector will shift and I mention that compensation of that will be required
6th I bet a few PhDs could be made from this easily
7th I doubt there will be an interest from investors/governments etc about this since this idea makes quite inefficient flying machine: too much dead weight and complexity
8th it's an interesting contest I agree
9th have I mentioned very little time?
I bet someone will make it fly, but my guestimate is that will not fly great and there will be no free rotation in all directions
I think if you gave all participants more time much more people would participate...
Thanks for your great work Joshua
1st Prototype is flying, th-cam.com/video/CXIlZ8mCfGM/w-d-xo.html
I see no issues challenging people to come up with interesting designs and solutions to problems. This seems unlikely to produce anything great, but there is still a chance. So if people want to work on it, great.
Nah, there's no chance, it's a stupid idea. Cool, but stupid as it's completely impractical for...........anything.
Pawel , what is your disposition now that the Lynchpin drone has been built and operates with 12 motors?
My reaction is that standard four propeller drones have all the same degrees of freedom with less components and a a lot more simplified control system. I've also yet to see what the proposed benefit is over a regular drone.
Think outside the box and it should be enough to form a thought
@@jd52wtf There are zero benefits, only drawbacks. But it is cool to see someone make it.
@@jd52wtf I don't see other drones linking together in a fractal style like these can.
@@TFNEVADAhow is that an improvement again?
evrybody who knows what is involved in pulling this off will agree the price offered is ridiculous !
Yeah, since you most likely will have a lot ot R&D costs, if you are unlucky you even make a loss by selling the lynchpin plans for 15k. It would be way better to do an f-you-move after successful implementation: patent your plans and then sell the drone kit yourself :P
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If you want to do it in any reasonable amount of time, you'll need qualified employees too.....for 15 k they'll get a concept with a real nice presentation
@@puntenpol true. In my comment I presumed that I'd derive the theoretical concept and equations of motion myself to save costs, not bothering about a time frame
Maybe he should just give these guys a call: th-cam.com/video/RCXGpEmFbOw/w-d-xo.html
It's not a paid job. It's a competition.
The problem i see is that RR sent this weird frame out in this month's KwadBox. People that paid money for a quadcopter fpv box got literally robbed and sent a joke box of useless sticks. The people that i think would feel disrespected would be the customers of RR kwadbox, disrespected by Rotor Riot. Terrance Howard can do whatever he wants thats fine, Im really disappointed that RR is supporting this absurd project, RR is all very smart people that im sure all know this is just some weird pointless idea. They are just using terrance Howard for publicity for RR. Something seems not right with their collaboration.
@@M-H433 did you even watch the video? Ask google
He's a rapper and supposedly actor that claims to be a PhD chemical engineer and mathematician. E is not. He can't show you a diploma. He also believes in the electric universe so that gives you an idea what's going on.
we should probably split this project, kabab fpv will make the toothpick version, Dave C fpv , the long range, and Pawel a 7 inch model ....
Why did you not use symmetrical motors?
The first mistake was watching a Drone Mesh video.
I have watched some of his stuff. I found some of it interesting, but still haven’t decided how much he knows what he’s doing vs how much is b.s. He somehow makes it hard to tell. He now seems to have a strange group of followers who support whatever he says. It’s a bit weird.
Haha...thanks! Love techtalk. Amazing how much you actually thought this through, and explained it very clear, in so little time.
4:45... Exactly... I wouldn't touch that project with a 10 foot pole.
I did not like the esoteric overtones that are in the "book" that was a companion to the "project". In the end $15k+10k for having a working kit and getting all rights on the working prototype is very cheap. And the hundred others who did not make the cut have nothing but some learning experience
@S Grim i think more than 100 people will spend some time on it. I do not think there will be a price for a fully working prototype awarded. I doubt it gets into prototype stage.
This situation has been bugging me for 2 days straight now since I watched and re-watched Bardwell's video.
$45 for the prototype Lynchpin frame is ridiculously overpriced for the raw components: 22 carbon rods and 17 3D printed corners. Where are the STLs for us to print our own?
As for the geometric aspect of this thing, here's part of the transcript of a Lynchpin video by Terrence:
"You know I've spent most of my life searching for the perfect geometry that properly defines the nature of space and time. It's the same unseen geometry that is the cause of all of the effects that we have always observed of natural phenomenon. It's the same geometry that Davinci and Copernicus and Capron and Archimedes and Pythagoras, all these men of old and men of great fame and note, they searched also for the perfect geometry. Well the Lynchpin is that perfect geometry."
Uhh that bit about his frame being the perfect geometry? I tried recreating it in my 3D editor I use for making 3D prints with, attaching 6 pentagons together and they just can't fit like that. Either there's gaps between the pentagons or you have to modify the angles of the pentagons to make them fit into the shape of the Lynchpin.
Then there's the guy's history involving women. Not nice reading.
So when Bardwell's livestream with Terrence happens, I'll definitely try to be there, throwing questions into the chat that will be difficult to answer.
Not sure if these video links will be allowed so posting them as a reply to my post:
"An Introduction To The Lynchpin By Terrence Howard" th-cam.com/video/YbJ3wurBKHo/w-d-xo.html
"Lynchpin Contest Rev. 3" th-cam.com/video/XQ6rdmjbRsk/w-d-xo.html
"Decoding Terrence Howard" th-cam.com/video/ASSk47tahBY/w-d-xo.html
The Decoding video, reading the comments may cause you undue suffering from the idiocy of the general population who believe he's uncovered something that real scientists haven't yet found (there's a reason they haven't discovered what Terrence claims he's discovered...)
6x6 matrix M of each motor's linear and angular acceleration
i = M * o, where i = vector of requested inputs (requested linear and angular accelerations), o = vector of thrusts of each separate motor.
o = M^-1 * i
imho afaik ymmv, but it seems like a clearly defined mathematical problem with a nice unambiguous solution
This seems like a task for Neural Network. With supervised learning this should be quite straight forward solution. The only challenge with that option is to build virtual model and training environment. On the plus side - no math required.
Ok now... this was done and completed with 12 engines. I see no one as said nothing.... hello big mouths haters... speak up... crickets
Link ?
@@SavageOne420 flight test from three years ago th-cam.com/video/rqsPrmKRNec/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RzWFq54xmgAU7yuc
The whole concept of "Tangential" flight is ridiculous. Here is an inefficient airframe that will have stability and load distribution issues for starters
@@SavageOne420 th-cam.com/video/YkFuxKnvxCQ/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/LGPOkZxf5F4/w-d-xo.html
It barely flies, it's just enough to fly at all.
My neighbor invented a plane that would scoop water and turn it into hydrogen oxygen fuel to power said plane. It would never have to land he said. He was a genious too.
He INVENTED one? Or he came up with the concept for one?
@@markagisotelis551 he's hoping someone else can do the work too.
Wow , Pawel, they should pay you the 15k just for explaining the problem ! You are amazing
Everyone seems so uptight about this "disrespect" thing. I don't think any of this is disrespectful at all! Terrence is not trying to rip anybody off. More likely he does not realize the LOE required. The whole idea of the challenge is awesome, IMHO, and you never know... someone may come up with a breakthrough idea that moves us all forward, or they may not. In the meantime it will be very interesting to see what comes of this.
Let's send this to the ETH and Prof D'Andrea.
The haters - you do you...
why would this be disrespectful?
Weird?
Sounds exciting
Harmony and balance is magnetic
Amazing
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Looks stupid. Overcomlicated, easy to break, heavy, not small and agile, you can't mount anything anywhere. At least if the stupid shape wasn't predefined would be a better challenge.
To me it looks like a drone project that might come out of a university electronic engineering department as someone's degree project/job application calling card. I'm thinking Tom Stanton could build it in a weekend with his 3d printer and an arduino board. But if anyone else wants to give it a try why not could be an interesting project 🤔
Clearly a use case for variable pitch. Each three props for the lift and the remaining props to counter the torque. Basically an inefficient yet cool looking helicopter design.
If you can't do it just shut-up, and let other do the challenge, damage their brains and ruin there life 😅😹🔥
its just a stupid idea
Putting a gopro with amplifier and sbf in lower earth orbit is easier, cheaper and more rewarding....
The biggest problems with his design of the lynchpin is that the rotors inherently interfere with eachother and have a non-optimal angle in terms of the thrust that is generated by e.g. moving in one direction. This makes the design quite ineffecient. Even if in space, this design is actually not likely to be the optimal solution since there is never even just one single thruster/propellar that is pointed in the exact opposite direction of the moving trajectory. The structure is constantly fighting against itself and basically "collapsing" inwards which results in a notable loss of energy and an increased need of structural material to sustainably support this structure. Some of these problems could be mititgated by having thrusters/propellers on a rotatable axis as seen with other omnidirectional drones, but this just makes the design even more complex and inherently worse than the more "normal looking" omnidirectional drones on the market such as the Aerix drone. Additionally, in space, the lynchpin has to have thrusters that can thrust in two directions at each of the protruding pentagons or circles as he has also designed it as. Here on earth though, it has to have either the same configuration as in space or opt for very ineffecient propellars that are two-way compatible. Nonetheless, this design implies the use of 12 thusters/propellers compared to only 8 in e.g. the Aerix drone which can achieve the same results althrough it comes with it's own set of disadvantages. also, the "swarm" effect that terrence says the drone is also intended for is actually very inefficient as a lot of the lynchpins thrusters/propellers will become inoperable and closed of from the exterior. So if high material and energy consumption, cost, complexity, and ineffeciency is not a problem, then this design might be of good use. I will credit some inginuety as it seems to be novel and somewhat usefull in niche situations.
Who would have Dream that A man could build a Overunity machine that makes steam and Produce over 200% of the input energy ( If I remember it right over 150% -200) in the time that if one open his/her mounth and talk about these things then you are a BAD and Creazy Person!!? So I believe in that this could be a totally new form of quadcopter families. Maybe even this is really bad design but even thou that this is a bad design it has all ready put new idea's in many peoples mind. I know it did with me :). I just am thinking of building something strange :) Thank you Pawet for sharing
The flying, physics-defying tictacs are already here
This thing actually needs 3D mode props.
Is there a video released after they actually finished this supposedly impossible challenge? Or did one not get made because of so much negativity towards something new and different im confused. Literally just seen a video of a lynchpin flying with 12 motors and flying in any direction while changing axis in every direction smoothly
There are some live flight tests from the competition I just watched, at-least one person seemed to have made a functional flight controller that satisfied the challenge requirements
I think that kinda construction, if made a decent size, and stuck on a pole, would make a fantastic practice race-gate haha 😊😊😊
Hi comedian.. now that it's done.. why are you so quite?
As you said. Where would you put electronics. Whats is the frame suppose to be made with. It is so much more of a problem then motors and control software. It is honestly offensive to what it would take to do this.
A cube would be a better shape, because by recessing the 6 props slightly inside the center of each outside frame square of the cube (like a tesseract upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Schlegel_wireframe_8-cell.png ), you'd have the same landing on any side arrangement. But here's why a cube would be so much better: Standing on a corner, all six sides would be producing thrust. It gets more interesting and far more doable, when instead of one propellor per side, you put a whole 4 propellors or a quadcopter per side. Imagine a 6 sided die with every side being "4" or 4 dots and you get the picture. A standard flight controller runs each side, but the computer but each is programmed to be 90/180/270 off axis, so when you're holding it level, every single side is leveling itself offset and related to it's location on the side of the cube its on (Airmode on). When you change inputs on your stick, that goes to the flight controller int he center, the mixer if that's what you want to call it, that sends out the individual commands to each flight controller of each quad on the sides.
The downside of this arrangement is what you'd get with a lot of these type arrangements... a lot of dirty air and thrust passing through the center.
Other fun geometric 3D shapes, that are even better than a cube: www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=12+sided+dice
That 8 or 12 side ones look promising...
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mother nature, #1 designer of more flying things than anyone else,, even burt rutan... and thousands of years... earlier. guys just copy us...
I didn't realize Pawel was Europe, I'll have to update my outdated globe.... he looks so much smaller in the video... blah blah blah blah blah
fpv.air-war.org
Why not just take a normal drone frame and extend it upwards with two more motors, one to provide forward/backward thrust and another above it like a helicopter tail rotor. Wouldn't that accomplish same thing?
Well... I still think it's an elaborated joke... For 2 reasons: 25k for the work and you have absolutely no rights over it. So... I don't know.
Anyway, thanks for the lesson, Pawel! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Hmm, I like your thoughts on the subject, the angle you took, and the way you went over it. I am thinking of a different way about the "skeleton". To me, the main issues outside of what you said are also about: how to make it modular; power it; how to link it to others, so they did not get in the way of each other; share power between connected parts, resonating issues within one unit and then many; forced loop feedback; the gyroscopic effects of all the different rotors acting upon one another in any orientation; and many others that just make my head hurt. The code needed to make sure all things "listen" to each other, start and stop properly, and do it smoothly is way beyond my level of abilities. I also do not think it will be small. First prototypes will likely be very clunky due to the power/weight ratio and the expected features. To your point, I do not think it will be quick as I do not think many of the parts are readily available.
What the creature face that appear in the background at 6:43? 2 glowing eyes without pupils and one big eye in the forehead area.
Thank you for setting this straight how would you feel disrespected unless you want to be disrespected
Is the contest limited to 6 motors or could you use 12.. .. I’ve been looking over the contest but have found it.
I'm pretty sure I heard Terrance say he wanted 12 motors. If you go to the Lynchpin site, go to the bottom, and click "Hindsight, then on the menu of that page click direction, and there's a computer simulation of the way he thinks it will work.
this isn't a 15k weekend project, from what i see this is a masters/phd project. I think the disrespect is trying to offer pocket change to the community like hey, go buy a stick of gum with this and i'm going to hold on to all of your work. disrespectful? yeah. do we have to be bothered by it? not at all.
Not a single person that called it "disrespect" is scoring 15k weekend projects, LMFAO. Now they they're still right where they were before they called disrespectful: Still entitled, broke, and unknown.
The only "disrespect" I see is people thinking they're worth more than 15k because Terrance Howard is doing well so they feel entitled to a part of his assets.
@@charleyhinton1 L
@@ohitstarik Yes, everyone that claimed and didn't enter while someone else entered, applied themselves and absolutely dominated the rest of the community, hold that "L" up high and other people will succeed over and over again.
@@charleyhinton1 props to him, but L
IT WORKS PAL
Well this aged badly 😂
I'd say even more now
why not just put a 360 cam in the middle and then collect the $15k?
Thank you for your insights on possible solutions to this project. It does seem like an awful lot to accomplish in a short period of time. It will be interesting to see what comes of it. Happy flying. 🤓
The main issue with it is the rights grab involved - if there were no rights grab and it were simply a contest to develop software/hardware, there would be no issue. Given the rights grab, it looks like there is commercial incentive behind the contest - so $15k or $25k for a month and a half of SW/HW developer time at ~80hr/week just isn’t covered.
I went through the T&C and to be honest, it's nothing special. There is no rights grab, the license is non-exclusive
Not enough time = not enough money being offered..lol...it's true.. If this isn't a passion project then I wouldn't care either.
I quickly realised that this project was well beyond my abilities and that was that. Except realising that agility was been prioritized over efficiency and performance.
Liked before even seeing one second of the video.
Don't we all?
You crazy son of a gun
As always when an idea is exposed, non-doers will criticize and doers will analyse and experiment
I would put 2 Motors per slot, not use bidirectional? So both can spin min. idle all the time?
and carry 12 motors and 12 ESC? That's a lot of dead weight
I would love more episodes about this as it's very interesting but the brute force coding and testing is going to cost more man hours and broken parts than 10k from an already working decent coder. Is inyer sting though
exactly ...Terri ie just trying to get a decent development for an apple and an egg! He could afford to hire a professional development team but this would cost him at least three zeros more in the end ...
This configuration is already made. Omnicopter.
Hey yes. Good observation. Look it up.
Not really. Omnicopter has 8 props and is quite different in handling as reactive torque on each plane can be compensated by the same plane
@@FPVUniversity anyway its a very interesting configuration. Will see how this fly.
Its going to take a little novel thinking to make this work...i bet AI can figure it out, when the sensors and motors are linked and controlled properly this will be a terrible weapon.
The mixes for 3 rotational axis would be actually stay static (without motor-tilting). The problem is the need for rotating the thrust vector relative to gravity AND user input wich would require to have 3 additional (static) mixes for the translational axis.
This should still be solvable within the given time frame by 2 smart kids (that have a basic idea about the betaflight code base) working full time.
Now someone needs to design, build and learn a 6-axis controller to fly that thing the way it is supposed to (6d) and that will not happen ;-)
I think this is a waste of time! Where to put the pdb, fc and battery?
At around 7:25 you talk about a mechanism that angles the motors. I think that's against the requirements of the contest: "Motors and props must be located within and aligned parallel to the planes of the frame"
my bad :) No tilting motors
Everyone should compete, just submit bogus code and a photo of your drone lol.
Wow! It's been done
Exciting!
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i'm pretty sure i've seen this shape fly already, years ago.
No. You might have seen 8 prop omnicopter - th-cam.com/video/sIi80LMLJSY/w-d-xo.html
@@ondrascz1 yikes thats incredible, i think the one i seen was in some competition and more dodecahedron style.
this frame is like we are merging 2 tri-copters!!!! ????
Just looking at it I can see that it's plausible
I already created a mixer (fixed and dynamic in my head) and I can already see problems.
there are configurators that can support this but can't because they are severely limited (inav, betaflight, cleanflight, ardupilot) that means you need to create your own filmware and if you manage to create it now you need to make your own flight controller because premade ones are limited in I/O pins, ok but how are you going drive motor esc? With Dshot to have reversible motors, ok but motors don't behave well in low throttle conditions and only way to remedy this is to make sensored motor, ok but you can't buy sensored esc with Dshot support so you need to make your own esc and filmware for that esc, And to top it all off, you need custom trazmitter (3 control sticks).
Let's sum this all up
You need custom flight controller,
Custom filmware for said flight controller,
Custom configurator for said filmware,
Custom esc's,
Custom filmware for said esc's,
Custom motors,
Custom trazmitter that has 6 analog outputs.
And the winners will be people that have shit ton of cash already that have huge labs and big team's.
Also the min number of mixers whould be 6.
Good luck finding a microcontroller with enough memory and proccesing power
Edit: I figured it out using two mixers
(One for all orientations and one sweeping through the first mixer dependent on accelerometer values)
But since I love a good dumpster fire I will wait and see what turn this scam will take.
Am, it's not that bad. BF or INAV can be used for radio input and 3 axis PID as well as drivers for all the hardware.
- almost all ESC can work in reversible mode
- most FC can run 6 motors
- all RC motors fits
- you need 3D props
- and a clever way for another degree of freedom from the radio
You have to build the dynamic mixer though
@@FPVUniversity bf and inav won't let me use custom mixer, let alone s dynamic one
Only way we could get somewhat dynamic mixer is in inav using logic tab to get it shift between different mixers.
It whould be rough but It whould fly...
Forget what I said inav won't arm because custom mixer can't be verified.
If you need help I can create mixers and help in software development but this means creating new filmware from ground up
Also for this aircraft to work all propellers must be clockwise or all counter clockwise
No exceptions
You dont need a custom configurator if you write the firmware. Just hardcode it into the firmware.
For the rotors maybe variable pitch so the reversing goes more smooth.
Anyway we can all agree... this is a pain in the arse project and where am I going to hang my fpv/action camera?!
@@impmeister1 again
Configurator like betaflight doesn't even have mixer tab and inav won't arm if you use custom mixer
@@blackturbine ok maybe I wasn't clear. You dont need a configurator/custom configurator. If you write your own firmware.
Write your firmware upload it with a st-link/avrdude/PICkit3
Test it, apply changes in the code and upload it again with your programmer.
No Inav/betaflight/ardupilot/custom configurator needed
this silly design is like some little kid ran up to an adult flying a real drone and was like, what if you put 4 drones together and make it fly.....ya ok kid. first you must understand the first drone before you can come up with new designs that just wont work nor is there anything like that able to do such things. DREAM ON but lets kinda get back to reality. specially for the small amount of money it would take to produce such a thing, timing is even more a joke. I feel bad for the humans that think this is a viable idea and project worth thinking about.
Maybe it's easier to start with like a cube shape with 6 motors?
$25000 now!! Are you interested now????
i just watched multiple builds flying in every direction
$25000 now ! Are you interested now????
As a non-developer, I think this product is interesting. That said, the prize is not!
Well said!
It is very interesting but it seems v challenging. And I thought he said 10k for 10 runners up and 15k for the winner which is better than just 15k and that's it. Maybe if it was the same prize pool rearranged for 2 runners up and 1 winner it would be much more palatable
I believe the rule of the competition were very loose and nothing needed to be finished within the time limit. More of a long term project.
What does this lynchpin have to do with hydrogen? Terrance Howard said something about hydrogen but never explained if he’s using hydrogen to fuel these machines or what. I’m completely lost as to what his theories are proving. 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🙄
Nothing. He is quite a delusional bloke
@@BenzoEnzoMk2 of course. lol
@@FPVUniversityhe did talk about hydrogen but not in relation to the lynchpin. Is it that u didn't watch or pay attention to what he says. Or it just went above ur head?
So what is you thought now that it can fly?
I never said it can't fly😁 I only said and I keep to it that it makes very little sense and is run buy a guy disconnected from reality
@FPVUniversity still?
@@FPVUniversity why do u say he's disconnected from reality?
These opinions in the comment section aged horribly 😂 you can see by the number of edited comments LOL
Thank you. An interesting thought experiment from the oblique. Excellent points you cover. Math and Science deserve mad respect but, there is no such thing as a dumb question. Dare to be naive. Elders taught me not to judge visitors from other villages, no matter their perspective. Not everyone gets to be a cannibal so don't be a snob.
Can you not just use 12 motors ?
I look at that thing and It looks like it's too much and overly designed. Simple is better. The more complex you make something the more points of failure you create.
I completed my 3d print. A youtube short is on my page.
use 12 motors ? use VP props ?
It's flying bruh
camera would need to be gyroscopic too
For FPV yes
There is said a lot about the shape, almost like its holy, the gateway to sacret bla bla bla. Feels very annoying. But beside that I don't think this shape is that efficient. 1 prop in a bol or 3 props in a bol would make for more efficiency. This shape only works in space is my guess, sinds there is no gravity, so no waisted 'weight'. But then again, spaceships already can move to anywhere without the limit of angles (in perspective to down). I like the let's solve the problem contest... But still feel annoying by the actor talking about it like I'm watching a Cult leader.... Just my 2 cents
I watched it. And an engineer in me cried in silence during that stream...
looks like the did ,and its working perfectly
Yes it will take a lot of money to get this to work
Dude was sooooooo wrong ..On so many things.lol
Waste of time - this "design" is simple irrational. A lot of dead mass, unstable and over complicated. Aerodynamics of flying box - any wind will make this thing a sail.
This did not age well
Somewhere I already saw a drone like that from some university 🤔🤔🤔
Well not exactly... it had 90degrees on the thrust planes
I think that challenges are good for our hobby but this looks like unefficient impossible project. First of all where the battery goes? Without the battery we can only throw it so why not just use a ball? And 45$ for the frame? This looks like someone just wants to make some money.
i just want to see someone simulate this and try to get a convolutional neural network to try to fly it
it can even be to make the sporting drone for keep watching on us... like redcat is with them too it's possible and on top they want us to do it...
Compliments for the analysis 👍
and its 25,000 not 15,000
Money talks. If this guy drops $200k, it’ll fly.
It's actually a complement to the GitHub gods. If someone thinks you have the ability to do some crazy shit that's awesome. How they came to the dollar figure I'm not sure
I don't get why this design is desirable
from technical point of view? It's not
I believe the answers have been revealed
Just embracing the RR business model.."Hey kid...wanna work for exposure?"...ffs..15k for a million dollar idea that will no doubt take thousands of hours of R&D to get right.. ...nope...not looking to take advantage of the community and make a ton of cash off their work.....not here....lol.. edit: RR is selling a frame ??..lol..nope no marketing here...nope..lol...
The contract includes "industry standard" royalties on all profits from the product, as well as the $25k cash prize. This is not a "work for exposure" situation.
Lynchpin drone is better.
Headless god mode
Tell Terry to email Raffaello D'Andrea and be done with it.
th-cam.com/video/RCXGpEmFbOw/w-d-xo.html He already did the octo version.