***** That means you do care. If you COULD care less, that means you have the capacity to care less. Which means you care a little bit. It's "I couldn't care less". I couldn't care less that you couldn't care less about what I listen to either.
Hey, today I learned about the "fun chord", the diki diki dout wow-Transition and the dropped D George Lynchy chord. Thank You Mark & Chris! The way I figure, it's the simple way of explaining one's music which helps common people to grasp the theory, the concept and the intention behind! Greetings from a Fan
I'm not huge on SS but after watching a good bit of his podcast, I love that his voice hasn't changed in any way from there to here. He's one of those people that could never disguise his voice. We know it's him lol
I'm a drummer, and it really frustrates me when guitarists know nothing about rhythm, or at least some terms of it so we can effectively communicate. A good example is at 2:12 when he does the common galloping- kind of strumming (3 16th notes followed by a 16th not rest), but he calls it a triplet, and that makes a huge difference.
I don't know, depends on their goals as a band. Most people have never heard of nor want to listen to a band called Suicide Silence, much less after listening to them
Bobby Van Stone Suicide Silence is one of the most well known deathcore bands and they have over 3 million likes at Facebook so I guess they have done alright.
Here's everything they said in this video summed up in a few words: "I have no idea what I'm doing, but I think it sounds pretty brootle." They can't even explain the subdivision of the triplets for their 'intro'. I can't believe I used to like this band.
because everyone who's not doing it are mad that they can't get a gig because they spent there lives in a bedroom playing with themselves and think there awesome because they know every scale but have no social skills or charisma and are so consumed with how great they are but can't keep real time with a real drummer and have no feel!! but these dudes don't know shit about all that they started in the garage with friends and did it because they love music and have feel.... no they are not technical but they have feel and can make a bunch of people happy and themselves happy fuck the shit talkers you don't see them on a stage!!! I'd rather jam with those with a love for the jam then those with God complex jam bands smile and have fun. even death-grind-sludge and stoner metal and as I said there the ones on the stage and you haters... keep on hating if there like me it only pushes you harder which makes you better!!!!!
William Canavan You hit the nail on the head. Technicality does not make good music. Feel and songwriting skills makes good music. You can write better music with 3 notes than some people who write music with 10 different scales and chords.
Funny how everyone is too busy searching for a thousand different reasons to call this "shit" If you only put that much energy in search of suicide silence songs you might like to broaden your playlists, you'd be much better off But hey it's your life
This is Metal, not classical music. Who gives a shit if they know proper terminology and/or theory, the riffs are aggressive, heavy and groovy as hell.
see,when you know theory you can write songs/riffs that dont sound this FUCKING HORRID,its like some jackass that just learned to drop tune then played whatever he could muster up.that crap is in the top 3-4 shittiest riffs of eternity
+joesatriani1200rulez Those bands aren't as aggressive. They're good, not aggressive. Personally, I enjoy bands like Morbid Angel and Insomnium, mostly for their intensity and lyrical themes.
Everyone hating on them having no talent but do you realize they're both playing steph carpenter sigs (who admits to not being a crazy good player) and they both each have more than a few of their own signatures. It's easy to chug yeah, but it's hard to really make somethin Rythmic, heavy and catchy like they do
I don't like to bash. period. But I think the reasoning behind so much people's hate is that all their material, all the riffs, and pretty much everything they do is extremely repetitive, it all sounds recycled, and I'm not pointing my finger just at Suicide Silence, just like every "Deathcore" band, or whatever people label them, they ALL chug on that same tritone chord in Drop A tuning. It's not so much to do with the simplicity of it. There are a lot of metal artists that play simple music, and sound alot more diversified than these guys. Even some bands of the same sector(genre). Anyway, that's my reasoning for understanding maybe why people bash this band so much.
I'm a huge nerd when it comes to music so I am bilingual when it comes to dug a dug a wah dug a wah 😂 Freak'n love listening to these guys because they definitely know the language
bandwagoning is getting old quickly. Life is too short to not have an appreciation towards music. Although suicide silence may not be my favorite band like they used to be, I can still appreciate their dedication and patience to being musicians. Theres a serious lack of that these days and its disgusting.
Them saying "triplets" is probably just to use an easier term for most guitarists. A lot of us are good at what we do and probably care less about 4 notes 16th notes 4 beats per half measure on the treble cleff shit
Yeah it does, it shows that you have an idea what you're doing, and it takes practice. Music isn't a sport, who cares if they aren't the best of the best, they still deserve some recognition.
I still think the heaviest tone is the "buzzsaw" tone that old Swedish death metal bands like Entombed and Dismember used. And newer bands still borrow that tone today, such as Rotten Sound, Magrudergrind, and lots of other grindcore bands.
@ericgeving no, its exactly the same as your regular six string guitar, with only one new thicker string tuned to the regular six string's A, but an octave lower. So just the seventh string is an octave of another note
Suicide Silence's guitar is solid and nothing else. It's everything it needs to be but these guys are not virtuosos. Still I grew up on them though. The highlight of this band is the aggression and the drums drive this band
Lol i seriously don't understand why this video and this band is receiving so much hate. They are good at what they do, believe it or not. Do you have any songs on youtube that has over 2 million views? I think not. Regardless of whether you like their music, you have to accept the fact they are good at what they do, otherwise they wouldn't get so many views.
As a frequent listener to this band, and a guitar player. I couldn't fathom why they would make them do a guitar lesson on any of their songs, especially one with out and sweeping at least.
@LoveStarOcean I don't see why you didn't like this. They explained it perfectly. I understood it fine and can play it now. It's no theorethical bullshit. Rhythm is the way to go man. Digadigadun waiow.
@kylemctreehugger1991 You're saying they're uninteresting because you're listening to them the wrong way. It's not about "getting up and moving", it's about the guitar riffs and solos. And I don't see how anyone could listen to a song like "Rattlehead" or "Holy Wars" and not see that there is at least a little energy there.
I actually found this lesson helpful, And least these guys have a little bit of fun being stoned and having a good time, and are not stuck up and trying to show off.
@301Ibanez about the guitar..its not a 207. its a ltd sc-607. the colour is "natural" and its discontinued. I wanted it so bad too. Nowadays ESP only makes the 607 and 607b (for baritone) in black only.
This shit still takes time to learn if you're a beginner. Easy is a relative term. This is easy for people who have practiced a lot or are naturally talented. They even acknowledged that it's easy in the video anyway. Just because they play simple stuff doesn't mean they can't play more complex stuff. There are variations of difficulty in all genres. There is complex deathcore that is hard to play and there is simple blues that is easier than this to play.
@streatcarp You are correct on many fronts, yes it starts with "you are" the' takes both words and forms them as one. Thus making you're, Lastly, your is cutting it down even further Watch the archfiend he corrects trolls all the time by taking their "Your"s and correcting them.
What wasn't realistic about what I said? I don't retract anything. With dedicated practice, yes you're probably right. My point was that, there are many levels of difficulty in practically all genres. The level of difficulty doesn't diminish the musicality. I don't like that people want to find something to complain about with deathcore. There's plenty of well respected death and doom metal that is just as easy if not easier to play.
Music theory dude...triplets have a constant feeling to them, and when picking them in a straight pattern you go: UP down up DOWN up down, with the strong beats on the first up, and second down.
I don't need to find things to complain about with deathcore because the things to complain about present themselves so easily, lol. But that's beside the point. This is easy to play. Some death metal is easy to play, some doom metal is easy to play. All I was arguing was that you don't really need much "natural talent" to pick up stuff like this fairly quickly.
I can't imagine these guys in the studio
"Ok so imma chug a few times, then you squeal "
"Ok chug squeal, got it"
Ghost Walker thats exactly how my band writes lol
Cheal or sug
Gimma aaaaaa chug.... chug... Iaaaaaaaal goooooooooo aaaaeeeehhhh.... ooooouuuuu.... tutum
i like how different their tones are specially when they do it together sounds dope
So crazy these guys single handedly got me into 7 string guitars
These guys are just having fun living their lives creating loud heavy music. Why so much hate?
Maybe cuz suicide silence is Deathcore and Deathcore gets a lot of shit
***** both.
I listen to Bieber too, what you gonna do.
***** That means you do care. If you COULD care less, that means you have the capacity to care less. Which means you care a little bit.
It's "I couldn't care less".
I couldn't care less that you couldn't care less about what I listen to either.
Devin Taylor seriously dude 🤘🏼
Devin Taylor They’re guitarists, they’re supposed to do their job, as professionals, you’d expect them to be better teaching songs.
The way they explain the sounds is fucking hilarious.
I talk to other guitarists the same way "dun dunna dun dun with that pinch harmonic at the end"😂
this might be simple, but the structure of the song is brilliant. it comes out at the right time where you want it. these guys are geniuses.
“ song” ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@charleswind8298""song" ?" ?
@@allistergraham6704 """song" ?" ?" ?
@@KobeA29””””song””””????
No man, you should listen I don't know, other song maybe
Chris reminds me of Robert Trujillo they look alike.
Except Rob has talent
RustyDuckDicks agreed
Brandon Montgomery lol
Jack Stoddart Guitar so does chris
yah and mark is like the HEAVY METAL version of MAC MILLER lmfao dead af
"But in the 'Digga digga dun wow' formation"
Best bit. Its funny how accurate that is to how it sounds
Hey, today I learned about the "fun chord", the diki diki dout wow-Transition and the dropped D George Lynchy chord. Thank You Mark & Chris! The way I figure, it's the simple way of explaining one's music which helps common people to grasp the theory, the concept and the intention behind! Greetings from a Fan
''It's got that diminished kinda....'' Mark says this in every video ahahah
I read your comment the moment he said it
And it s just a minor chord, these guys don t know much about music
This song should be called "stoned to death"
in this context I think it might as well be the same thing
I'm not huge on SS but after watching a good bit of his podcast, I love that his voice hasn't changed in any way from there to here. He's one of those people that could never disguise his voice. We know it's him lol
definitely one of my favorite chords (which is why I use it in every song)
I know it's been 9 years but which chord are you talking about?
I'm a drummer, and it really frustrates me when guitarists know nothing about rhythm, or at least some terms of it so we can effectively communicate. A good example is at 2:12 when he does the common galloping- kind of strumming (3 16th notes followed by a 16th not rest), but he calls it a triplet, and that makes a huge difference.
Well it's working for them, isn't it?
I don't know, depends on their goals as a band. Most people have never heard of nor want to listen to a band called Suicide Silence, much less after listening to them
Bobby Van Stone Suicide Silence is one of the most well known deathcore bands and they have over 3 million likes at Facebook so I guess they have done alright.
Bobby Van Stone It is true, even I think they should know their theory but The Beatles didn't and they got where they wanted to, didn't they?
YoLpIsBest Just Beiber has millions of fans too, I guess that means he's doing alright too.
Holy shit they were so high... Lol!!!!
Jimothy Meyers people always use the they were so high excuse when the people in question actually or just shit or are stupid.
Lol they're both playing Stephen Carpenter sigs. Steph rules
Here's everything they said in this video summed up in a few words: "I have no idea what I'm doing, but I think it sounds pretty brootle." They can't even explain the subdivision of the triplets for their 'intro'. I can't believe I used to like this band.
who cares?
quit being a douche....'they don't know their triplets...' you sound like a turd-shut up
They were baked out of their minds you dult.
Metal Mac Miller on the left.
@@daimonicreality1590 lmao
because everyone who's not doing it are mad that they can't get a gig because they spent there lives in a bedroom playing with themselves and think there awesome because they know every scale but have no social skills or charisma and are so consumed with how great they are but can't keep real time with a real drummer and have no feel!! but these dudes don't know shit about all that they started in the garage with friends and did it because they love music and have feel.... no they are not technical but they have feel and can make a bunch of people happy and themselves happy fuck the shit talkers you don't see them on a stage!!! I'd rather jam with those with a love for the jam then those with God complex jam bands smile and have fun. even death-grind-sludge and stoner metal and as I said there the ones on the stage and you haters... keep on hating if there like me it only pushes you harder which makes you better!!!!!
William Canavan
You hit the nail on the head. Technicality does not make good music. Feel and songwriting skills makes good music. You can write better music with 3 notes than some people who write music with 10 different scales and chords.
Funny how everyone is too busy searching for a thousand different reasons to call this "shit"
If you only put that much energy in search of suicide silence songs you might like to broaden your playlists, you'd be much better off
But hey it's your life
AND if you don't like any suicide silence songs then move on to the next band and there you go.
It's that easy
This is Metal, not classical music. Who gives a shit if they know proper terminology and/or theory, the riffs are aggressive, heavy and groovy as hell.
joesatriani1200rulez youre embarrassing too, and terrible
joesatriani1200rulez listen to the black crown. Secificaly the song Slaves To Substance. Youll find your melody there.
see,when you know theory you can write songs/riffs that dont sound this FUCKING HORRID,its like some jackass that just learned to drop tune then played whatever he could muster up.that crap is in the top 3-4 shittiest riffs of eternity
And that my friend is the magic of it. They are not trying to be progressive nor pretentious. They just want to write heavy music.
+joesatriani1200rulez Those bands aren't as aggressive. They're good, not aggressive. Personally, I enjoy bands like Morbid Angel and Insomnium, mostly for their intensity and lyrical themes.
Everyone hating on them having no talent but do you realize they're both playing steph carpenter sigs (who admits to not being a crazy good player) and they both each have more than a few of their own signatures. It's easy to chug yeah, but it's hard to really make somethin Rythmic, heavy and catchy like they do
I don't like to bash. period.
But I think the reasoning behind so much people's hate is that all their material, all the riffs, and pretty much everything they do is extremely repetitive, it all sounds recycled, and I'm not pointing my finger just at Suicide Silence, just like every "Deathcore" band, or whatever people label them, they ALL chug on that same tritone chord in Drop A tuning.
It's not so much to do with the simplicity of it. There are a lot of metal artists that play simple music, and sound alot more diversified than these guys. Even some bands of the same sector(genre).
Anyway, that's my reasoning for understanding maybe why people bash this band so much.
This is highlarious!
I love that deep percussive sound.
They are just stoned as fuck
They have no idea what they are talking about
first how to video ;p
shane gallagher they do, its just hard to explain it
You do realize they smoke a ton of weed right?
smoking weed isn't an excuse for stupidity. I can get high as fuck and have a conversation with you about quantum physics.
Brandon Harrison doubtful but okay. In every other guitar related interview I've seen these guys do, they seem to know what they're talking about.
That tone is fucking gnarly
Lol you guys can bash these guys all you want, but it's without a doubt that they come up with some of the sickest riffs
Essa sim, real dupla dinâmica do Metal da internet
have you every noticed that most bands that use 7 string guitars never use them to their full potential
Linn Motionless I was specifically mentioning deathcore bands. I should have been more specific haha
its not only about using the full 7 string range. some guys just prefer the feel and the different playability caused by the different neck
These guys do use their high e in solos. But this, along with a lot of their old stuff, can be played on a Baritone 6.
polyphia use 6 string......
never said anything about 6 string... so yeah...
Dude almost got a stroke when he realized beyond 5th fret the guitar can also produce chugs chugs
easy enough....now the Nile guitar lesson....different story
I'm a huge nerd when it comes to music so I am bilingual when it comes to dug a dug a wah dug a wah 😂 Freak'n love listening to these guys because they definitely know the language
you realize that they're just nervous, sounds great. I'd like to see em live.
honestly everybody is talking about how they don't make sense but I'm a guitarist and this makes perfect sense to me lol
bandwagoning is getting old quickly. Life is too short to not have an appreciation towards music. Although suicide silence may not be my favorite band like they used to be, I can still appreciate their dedication and patience to being musicians. Theres a serious lack of that these days and its disgusting.
Dedication? they don't even know what is happening in their own songs
Paul Thoresen that makes no sense
this is the greatest thing that the guitar world has ever seen
I've never seen such outstanding musicianship
I love how chris makes his more distorted to mix and match dirtyness with clarity
Them saying "triplets" is probably just to use an easier term for most guitarists. A lot of us are good at what we do and probably care less about 4 notes 16th notes 4 beats per half measure on the treble cleff shit
Yeah it does, it shows that you have an idea what you're doing, and it takes practice. Music isn't a sport, who cares if they aren't the best of the best, they still deserve some recognition.
Some day I will master this...
+Bustin Justin Try songsterr, it helps me a lot!
I was being sarcastic but thanks anyways. I'll check it out.
3:56 bet you'll have trouble with that
Those guitars are sick
Not gonna lie here but the verse on 3:27 sounds so much better played slow
Niklas karlberg sounds good but simple
I still think the heaviest tone is the "buzzsaw" tone that old Swedish death metal bands like Entombed and Dismember used. And newer bands still borrow that tone today, such as Rotten Sound, Magrudergrind, and lots of other grindcore bands.
"...squeal, where ever you want a squeal" haha...
@ericgeving no, its exactly the same as your regular six string guitar, with only one new thicker string tuned to the regular six string's A, but an octave lower. So just the seventh string is an octave of another note
Great guitarists. Fucking awful teachers... and they know it hahahaha!
Djenithalls Motherchugger that's literally me when i try to teach others guitar
Suicide Silence's guitar is solid and nothing else. It's everything it needs to be but these guys are not virtuosos. Still I grew up on them though. The highlight of this band is the aggression and the drums drive this band
Instructions unclear, learned how to play Wonderwall on a 7-string instead.
underrated comment xD
Who else used to watch this all the time when it was first uploaded?
I'm pretty sure everyone bashing these guys has never picked up an instrument in their lives.
+Trent Stines That's just what these two look like, like they've never picked up an instrument
+TwoHeavyThrash Hah!
+TwoHeavyThrash They are better than slayer tho
Lino Talaveron
You are trolling the wrong guy. I'm not sucking Slayer's dicks like every other elitist in the world ;)
TwoHeavyThrash Haha ok, that makes you a good guy. But I ain't trollin, i find them really overrated tho
Lol i seriously don't understand why this video and this band is receiving so much hate. They are good at what they do, believe it or not. Do you have any songs on youtube that has over 2 million views? I think not. Regardless of whether you like their music, you have to accept the fact they are good at what they do, otherwise they wouldn't get so many views.
These guys are most likely decent guitarists and decent musicians but this just sucks man
+Dialogue with the Stars their the guitarists for suicide silence
honestly they are super high in this video. lol
Dialogue with the Stars you got any videos you want to Post? Lol
"DIKKY DIKKY DUN WOW" formation, genius
Those guys don't inspire too much knowledge ....
huge respekt for the simplicity and genious in it
oh man these comments are salty.
As a frequent listener to this band, and a guitar player. I couldn't fathom why they would make them do a guitar lesson on any of their songs, especially one with out and sweeping at least.
sounds like a guitar and amp falling down the stairs......this is giving me cancer
you already had cancer...
samsquantch14 you are cancer
@LoveStarOcean I don't see why you didn't like this. They explained it perfectly. I understood it fine and can play it now. It's no theorethical bullshit. Rhythm is the way to go man. Digadigadun waiow.
but I wanna learn how to Djent
Drop G will get you started
@ObviouslyPliskin Nah it's just your opinion. There's something called music taste, and it's pretty much different in each one of us.
that as awful HAHA
@ericgeving It isn't an octave down. Its a 7 string guitar. Its drop A for a 7 string guitar.
False metal!!!!
+thrashmetalmaniac72 k den
@SpazzedOut56, this song is not about Mitch's death, it was written years ago
haha stoned much
@zubberguitar Forgot to specify augmented 5th. Clearly its in the shape of a power chord but the fifth is raised. Their in Drop A by the way.
Horrible players
Magnus Kartus you must be deaf
what effects are used for the guitar from chris garza??
Yeah, now that you've clarified, you're totally right. I was just nitpicking over what you said in the previous context.
@kylemctreehugger1991 You're saying they're uninteresting because you're listening to them the wrong way. It's not about "getting up and moving", it's about the guitar riffs and solos. And I don't see how anyone could listen to a song like "Rattlehead" or "Holy Wars" and not see that there is at least a little energy there.
i bought this tshirt to emulate someone who hats them
@partyboy175 Garza is using ESP LTD SC-207, Mark uses the same, but in different color.
They're both playing the Stephen Carpenter model 7 string! :D YESSSSSSSSSSSS
I just ordered the black one.
+Tanner Small that's dope
I know! I've been looking into getting a 7 string for a while. Snagged it for 242 bucks!
I actually found this lesson helpful, And least these guys have a little bit of fun being stoned and having a good time, and are not stuck up and trying to show off.
Never realized how much went into the first 20 seconds of this song till this video lol
Maybe its the fact that I smoked alot of pot when I was younger or the fact that I play in a deathmetal/core band but this made perfect sense to me.
Now I see why their music videos are so colorful and trippy.
@301Ibanez
about the guitar..its not a 207. its a ltd sc-607. the colour is "natural" and its discontinued. I wanted it so bad too. Nowadays ESP only makes the 607 and 607b (for baritone) in black only.
Bludgeoned to Death is from their album " The CLeansing " not no time to bleed ;)
This song is on the album the cleansing, their first album, not their second which is no time to bleed.
If this video is a lesson of anything it's do what you're passionate about.
This shit still takes time to learn if you're a beginner. Easy is a relative term. This is easy for people who have practiced a lot or are naturally talented. They even acknowledged that it's easy in the video anyway. Just because they play simple stuff doesn't mean they can't play more complex stuff. There are variations of difficulty in all genres. There is complex deathcore that is hard to play and there is simple blues that is easier than this to play.
@Machinehead18 thats right and Mark is brother of Johan Hegg
These are my guitar heroes
Robert Trujillo looks so different here
@TheMetalhead804 And youre right, he hit a harmonic, but that was by no means a squeal.
Well it's hard not to when you have this kind of stuff that passes for music these days and a million of other bands that sound exactly the same.
@streatcarp You are correct on many fronts, yes it starts with "you are" the' takes both words and forms them as one.
Thus making you're,
Lastly, your is cutting it down even further
Watch the archfiend he corrects trolls all the time by taking their "Your"s and correcting them.
What wasn't realistic about what I said? I don't retract anything. With dedicated practice, yes you're probably right. My point was that, there are many levels of difficulty in practically all genres. The level of difficulty doesn't diminish the musicality. I don't like that people want to find something to complain about with deathcore. There's plenty of well respected death and doom metal that is just as easy if not easier to play.
Even though this song isn't really amazing, but the riff at 3:37 is great.
Music theory dude...triplets have a constant feeling to them, and when picking them in a straight pattern you go: UP down up DOWN up down, with the strong beats on the first up, and second down.
These guys are the deathcore scrim and ruby. Wtf.
I like the fact he actually says: Do we really have to do this?
I like how this is listen-able when you remove the vocals and de construct the song.
I don't need to find things to complain about with deathcore because the things to complain about present themselves so easily, lol. But that's beside the point. This is easy to play. Some death metal is easy to play, some doom metal is easy to play. All I was arguing was that you don't really need much "natural talent" to pick up stuff like this fairly quickly.
"Please welcome to Guitar World Online, Mark Morton and Rob Trujill- I mean, Mark Heylum and Chris Garza"
Because they play it good and put on a good show at the same time.
I'm talking about the late 80's more specifically - Autopsy, Death, Amon, etc. I understand that death metal wasn't around during the early 80's.