Just a quick update guys, I downplayed Saitama quite a bit in terms of his power pre-growth. I strongly recommend you check out my recent community post for more details on how Saitama's durability works as well as how @whygiveup11 showed me this fact. That being said, I don't think this completely invalidates the entire video video nor the conclusions about the two of them fighting. I just through it would be be right to explain this new insight that changes how Saitama's powers work within relation to this video itself. Thank you.
The entire Krillin portion of power scaling could have been skipped by just comparing him to characters that we know for a fact are stronger than Saitama. Saitama couldn't even dream of universal feats. Starting in the Buu saga, the strongest characters are getting in to low-multiversal levels of power. We have quite a few outright confirmations that Buu is a universal threat. The clearest one is in the fight between Vegito and Buu after absorbing Gohan. The episode is called, "Rip in the Universe" and shows exactly that. Buu's vice shout is stated both in the anime, and in official guide books, to threaten to destroy the universe if not stopped in time. Even if you assume that base Goku at the end of Battle of Gods is only as strong as the regular fat Buu, (an absolutely insane lowball) you still have to scale him to the reality breaking and universe collapsing power of Buuhan. After that, you have arc after arc of Goku getting massively stronger. For Krillin to even stand a chance of pushing back even base Goku before the tournament of power, he'd have to be a casual low-multiversal fighter. The thing with Dragonball is that the naming scheme for astronomical bodies is off. A galaxy is called a solar system, an entire quadrant of the universe is called a galaxy, and the multiple universe sized realms are called a universe. You can see that in the guide books, and through basic observation in the series. So Cell, who was threatening to blow away the solar system, was a galaxy buster. Saitama's greatest feat was putting up half the energy it took to wipe out some star systems. Nothing to confirm or deny that it was galaxy level whatsoever. You have to ignore EVERYTHING past the Cell saga to say that Krillin doesn't erase Saitama at the subatomic level with the gust of wind generated by scratching his nutsack.
Physical wise I think Kuririn can definitely push Saitama to be serious but Saitama growth potential is literally Earthling version of Super Broly so he definitely gonna go past Kuririn in a short period of time, But Kuririn does have an advantage of Energy gathering, Energy Control, and on top of being a capable fighter, I think Kuririn is pretty smart fighter, But he just too bothering with his own capabilities, like... He keeps judging himself and put himself behind others And without a stakes to lose like No.18 or his daughter on the line, Kuririn is holding back by his own nature being that he can't take himself as seriously.
"earthling version of super broly" 🤦🤦 No 1. It's stated that Saitama's high emotions (because he thought Geno's DIED) is why that growth even happened. Saitama wankers acting like he grows like that every time he fights 2. Krillen scales too far above Saitama for that growth to even matter. 🤦🤦
@HeroricSpirit Freinen broly only gets power due to his emotions aka the angrier he gets the more powerful he gets so Saitama is like an earthling version of broly
@HeroricSpirit Freinen krillin does not scale above Saitama, krilin is at best super perfect cell level which is solar system while Saitama is at the very least solar system plus and since he broke his limiters he can get stronger but yes he does need a catalyst for it like emotions , but it could be something else next time ,I'm sorry but krillin ain't winning
11:41 Depending on the specifics, this feat could EASILY be low universal. If the clash ACTUALLY wiped out all those stars, then Saitama would be approaching universal levels of power. However, if the clash merely wiped out the LIGHT that was in the region of sky (somehow), then this would probably place him closer to solar system level. Everyone would just have to wait a while for the light to reach Earth again, and everyone would be able to see the stars again.
How exactly would this be universal? I just wanna know because stars are literally *nothing* compared to universes and galaxies. just to know your pov or whateva
@@TruXavia It's because of the distances involved. Though on second thought, it might be a bit closer to high galactic cluster rather than low universal, but they're not too far apart. Like I said in my previous comment there are two possibilities. One puts him around high solar system in level, and the other puts him around high glactic cluster or low universal. 1. High Solar system: If the energy from his attack erased the LIGHT that was between the stars, and not actually the stars themselves, this means that his power was enough to block the light from a large chunk of the sky. However because this feat would be blocking the light at a point "relatively" close to Earth, this limits the potential power of the attack. Think of like a solar eclipse, the moon is a LOT smaller than the Sun, but it can still block like 98% of the light from the Sun when it happens because it's a lot closer, and between the Sun and Earth. 2. Low Universal/High Galctic Cluster: If the energy from his attack erased the ACTUAL STARS in that region of space, this MONSTROUSLY improves his scaling. Considering that some of those "stars" are actually galaxies that are millions of lightyears away, this would easily place the range of his energy in the millions of lightyears. From a very quick amount of research, the farthest things normal people can see is the Andromeda galaxy which is about 2.5 million lightyears away. While the Andromeda galaxy might not have been in that patch of sky, just the fact that it was rendered void could easily scale his power into the millions of lightyears of destructive diameter. Considering that many humans/monsters/machines/etc... in OPM have FAR better "eyesight" than normal people, it's possible they could see a LOT farther. This improved visual acuity makes, the distance required to make the sky "starless" VASTLY increase, potentially placing the affected diameter into the many millions of lightyears. While I highly doubt that Murata was drawing to place Saitama on the upper end of the scale, if you take the feat to a logical point, you can reasonably make the argument that Saitama could be low universal in power. Personally though I think Saitama is high solar system level, but that doesn't mean other ideas can just be disregarded entirely.
@@toughmangaming8275 listen to a piece of advice I know you love power scaling and I don't I'm going to tell you the truth saitama wins that's just a simple fact and I'm not trying to be mean
Thanks so much for the credit! Unfortunetly though, I think I might've down played Saitama just a bit, for more info, check out my recent community post!
When it comes to saitama vs any DragonBall character, there isn't really a correct answer. Saitama was literally created to be unbeatable and very possibly has infinite potential. Someone like krillin has pretty much seen the limit a human can get in the DragonBall verse. It also depends on the circumstances whether if they are fighting to kill or whoever gives up first because someone like Saitama seems to have near limitless stamina. If Saitama is also angry like he was against garou he would rapidly increase in power throughout the fight, but all we've seen from krillin in that regard is him getting a rapid boost from anger but only for a short time. Thats y saitama would probably neg krillin but having saitama vs goku or beerus would be harder to debate simply because of the feats we've seen so far. Just my opinion tho 🤷
I think your stance is perfectly valid, I hope was able to convey such a stance in the video as I also think it could go either way and there are situations where the two beat each other
But not stronger than Saitama, Destructo Disc is his most powerful attack and can cut thru a Solar system if may but idk if beyond that. Saitama is durable but Krillin Destructo Disc can cut thru a person many times stronger than the user
there is saying where i live, that states ´´Krillin in the Narutoverse is God`` LMAO Personally i agree with Dainzeshuu and guides, so Goku in the battle of Gods would be a 5D being, and as you stated and clearly shown here 30:13 then that means Krillin is at least at 5D ranges of power.
I just wanna point out…. How can you point out Gamma Garou’s attacks not affecting the people around while ignoring that God Goku was gonna destroy the Macrocosm until he techniqued his way not to and Cell Max being mindless and exchanging blows with orange Piccolo and the planet barely even noticing
@@Mope333 it was literally sated that the entire macrocosm was going to be destroyed, that’s why elder Kai and Kabitokai were freaking out. That’s par for the course in DBS power scaling that it begins with a multiversal level feat
Saitama is the strongest in his own verse. So each fight he starts off suppressed. Him growing “stronger” is just him using the power he already has. Krillin is far superior to any and all of the power that Saitama has. So no Saitama will not beat Krillin
I kinda heard a theory that if hercule satan was in one punch man he'd be a high A class hero or low S class hero, I'm kinda curious is he actually stacks up to that level, since i know what the high S class levels are but am less familiar of the power level of low S class. My only frame of reference that comes to mind is tank top master being able to throw a small building.
That is an interesting theory and would make for an interesting video topic! My guess though is that Satan is more in the upper limits of B class or low A as we know Amai mask at the top of A is pretty damn strong and even lower S class like Tank Top Master has a lot of prowess in fighting skill as well as strength
Overall really good video. Was speed equalized in this? I dont recall you saying so but if you did then disregard this but if you just forgot to mention it then krillin should easily outspeed saitama by a wide margin meaning saitama wouldn't land any attacks. I honestly do believe krillin scales somewhat to battle of gods goku simply because android 18 is shown to be an equal to krillin when they team up to battle multiple opponents and later on when she fights by herself she can fight characters that can hang with goku and vegeta in their blue forms like ribbriane, viara, and anilaza so krillin at the bare minimum is comparable to battle of gods goku meaning krillin could one shot saitama pre-growth and post-growth.
30:57 Goku Super Saiyan form = his SSG by the end of the Battle of God arc. So his base form his 50 times weaker than the SSG transformation, as for the SSG transformation multiplier itself, it is way less than the initial ritual increase otherwise it would have smashed Kefla. (in the 2,000 to 3,000x range)
32:17 Narrative in DBS Super (the manga) tells us that Moro Suicide attack would have "possibly" destroyed the entire Galaxy. A suicide attack does not have any ki control, and this was a Moro overfeed by Angel energy so he was uber boosted.This would have killed everyone except Whis, so Beerus was included. And I am pretty certain that Beerus is stronger than Krillin or even Jiren (in the manga).
39:50 Pretty ironic when all the "galaxy/universe" level stuff coming from DB are hyperbole or just statements. Nothing visual or factual that is usually retcon within chapters.
A great video man. Normally I don't bother w/topics that compare/versus characters when one of said characters is so obviously meant to be overpowered if not unbeatable. Like Saitama and Supes. But your point of Krillin forcing out the super saiyan multiplier in their spar shouldn't be overlooked. Especially considering it already is, given how all anybody cares about in that spar is Goku going blue. Obviously he isn't beating that. p.s. Also I thought Krillin asked him too do that...or was that Gohan?
Jeep these vids coming. Goku vs Saitama next? Or maybe Saiyan or Namek saga Goku vs the Purple Piccolo Alien look-alike in the first episode of One Punch Man.
I need to point out during the serious punch squared Garou and saitama took out countless galaxies as well not just Stars. Because you can see in a different panel close up that the galaxies are very close to the Stars so when you zoom out the galaxies are still there they're just smaller but you can tell them from the Stars because the galaxies are much bigger. Putting the serious punch Square easily at multi Galaxy. I'm trying to figure out why a lot of power scalars who scale don't notice something so simple it's hard to miss unless you're trying to miss it. And another thing that people don't notice including you is that saitama literally only took damage whenever garou went into saitama mode. The nuclear fission didn't do anything to saitama the gamma-ray burst didn't phase saitama. The only thing that did some damage was when Garou was hitting saitama with his very own power. Don't believe me? go back and look at it. Cosmic garou and saitama were on the same level of power so it doesn't make sense that the nuclear fission didn't do any damage to saitama nor did the gamma-ray burst. But yet they are literally in the same realm of power but the only thing that actually did damage is whenever garou went into saitama mode. And they made sure to visibly show it to so simply being in the same realm of power isn't going to do any damage to saitama the majority of people don't realize this including you and the people in your comment section. A lot of people don't understand that saitama power is special so much to the point that it even phases him when used against him the way garou was able to utilize it. So based on what was actually shown simply being in the same realm of power is not going to do damage to saitama. Based on what was shown you're actually going to get some damage in if you can literally use his own power against him and strike him with it. Don't believe me go back and look at every attack that Cosmic garou threw at saitama and look at his reactions. And then look at his reaction when Garou went into saitama mode. Krillin isn't going to be able to damage saitama. And another thing with his exponential growth it's completely unknown how powerful he has become so you sitting here putting a power level limit on what you think he's at right now is already factually wrong. They made his level of power a complete mystery again. And even with that we got people still trying to lowball it and make it seem reasonable when his exponential growth there was literally nothing reasonable about that. Let's put this into perspective garou was able to mode change at speeds massively faster than light. But yet saitama exponential growth was so fast that by the time garou went into saitama mode saitama was already passed that stage of power and everytime Garou copied the Gap just got worse and worse and worse so much that even he could not keep up with how fast saitama's rate of growth was. It skyrocketed to such a ridiculous degree that Garou literally just gave up and tried to run it skyrocketed to such a ridiculous degree that he couldn't even measure how strong saitama was anymore that's how crazy fast this man growth was. And another thing that people are ignoring is they don't understand just how fast this growth happened. This didn't take seconds this didn't even take nanoseconds it was much much faster than that. Scaling saitama in the first place just doesn't work his feats never match how strong he actually is. It's really laughable that people honestly believe Krillin can take on saitama simply because he has demonstrated good feats. You're literally comparing a character who was made to literally punch away any problem no matter what it is who literally is infinitely strong. And you're putting him up against Krillin who struggles in all of his battles who takes damage from attacks that aren't even on his level of durability. The feat formula works perfectly well when you got characters who are always showing their upper limits and who you know who has limits. Therefore you can easily determine who wins by comparing their feats. But you got some characters saitama is a perfect example whose Feats literally never match his full power. And now y'all put saitama in this situation to where he is literally only as strong as the Feats he has showcased when y'all know for a fact that he is way beyond that. So to sit here and say Krillin beats saitama because he has better feats knowing full well that saitama is the very essence of Limitless strength. That saitama was literally designed to punch away any problem. And is literally only fazed by his own power being used against him but even with that you barely do any damage to him. A character whose exponential growth is so unfair that it's basically a cheat code. Y'all really got the audacity to sit here and say Krillin defeats saitama because he has better feats..... that's beyond crazy. You can't scale every character the same way and expect a accurate outcome. Especially when it comes to saitama. Saitama is washing Krillin
So, there's quite a lot to unpack here. Firstly, I think I totally understand why you think scaling Saitama can only be effected by people on his own scale of power and I would agree as Garo had to be within Saitama's realm to damage him. I just disagree that Saitama's power pre growth is some sort of special ability that can only pierce his own durability. I think that's clear in the manga as Garo literally uses the phrases "we're in the same realm of power" after scratching Saitama with his own mode then moves on to use the GRB. I understand it's your interpretation, but I think it's weird how Garo literally says that their in the same realm and then use an attack that he would percieve as way weaker than Saitamas Normal Consectutive Punches. Also I if you reached towards the end of the vs section, then you'll know that I address that Saitama post growth is damn near impossible to scale. But, to say that he shouldn't scale him at all because of that I think is know of a silly notion as I think if the discussion is handled well, there's a way to talk about him in a matter that 's respectful to him as a character and I tried my damndest to cover all bases pretty well. I think within both stories' I cover how their power is handled in their respective narrative and how that would play into a fight between the two of them.
Y'all really think krillin stacks because of his feats... Krillin... One of the weakest in his verse and first to be eliminated in the TOP... Vs someone who wouldn't have been eliminated in a competition like that. Krillin doesn't scale to anyone just because he can hang in a fight for a little while. Krillin shoes no feats against a big bad guy other than Frieza. Which he died in that ark. Krillin was dead in the buu saga. And didn't help much in the top arc. Most of krillin feats come from surprise attacks with opponents not thinking he'd be a challenge. Against someone stronger his crutch is his famous destructo disk.. which doesn't mean anything to higher godly levels of fighters. Even when Goku used it Jiren caught it and threw it back. Jiren being much like Saitama was unphased by much of that. And if your going to say Saitama can't catch a disk throw by krillin, Saitama has shown far more impressive feats like kicking and moving hyper space gates. There really isn't that much of a match up here. Krillin being stronger than a certain form of Goku doesn't imply he can show the same feats or tenacity as any version of Goku has shown when krillin is the main one of the side lines cheering him on to do something nobody else can do. Even Vegeta someone much closer to Goku in actual strength has been shown to do the same. Most of the monsters that can be at up S class heros in Saitama verse can one shit krillin. Especially the one who crashed the tournament Saitama went to just to experience martial arts. You were better off making this video about the guy who won that tournament vs krillin... And not Saitama just cause they're both bald. Smh useless debate. Krillin dies if the earth explodes. Saitama won't and can survive the vacuum if space and can even command his atoms to do a technique that allows him to go back in time and punch krillin before the fight even starts. There's really no contest here. Krillin hasn't learned and doesn't make it a habit to train with gods or even ask whis for training. Training he most likely wouldn't survive the way Goku and Vegeta did. While on the other hand training Saitama to copy an ultimate martial art you'd have to learn from a literal god or a being that has cosmic powers didn't take a while episode or a trip to a hyperbolic time chamber. He learned it right then and there. No contest.
You have some decent points, but Krillin isn’t that weak, not when he has some confidence at least. Like no one except Saitama, Garou, God, and maybe Blast might be too much for him. Gouketsu has no chance, even Boros has little chance, since he is around first form Frieza and Krillin should be above that by now.
@@ZigTheHunter I get that, but get this, who has Frieza ever been scared to fight? Would krillin fight Goku when he first turned ssj? No cause he'd be shaking in his boots, even in the cell ark where people assume krillin is much stronger than Frieza he wouldn't be able to hold a candle to the kind of fighter Frieza is. Ruthless fighters have always been able to kill krillin. He literally gets one shot by most of the big bads goons. Even in super he saw everyone that killed him. That's a lot of people. Too many to name. And even though people say he is stronger than the people in those illusions if they were anything but that they'd have blitz him. Good thing it was a test and not real. Speed below a certain level in Dragonball is all relative. Just because krillin has seen certain fight doesn't mean he be able to hang in those same fights if it were him. Krillin is my guy but I'm not about to lie for him just because we are talking about someone outside of his verse. And goketsu definitely murders krillin lol, dude is beyond human levels of durability. And speed is crazy too. Even if krillin is fast dude can still dodge attacks and fight at a martial arts level. Krillin would put up a decent fight, but he's loosing that battle too. All monster forms of garou beats him too. Shit phoenix man can beat krillin. Platinum S can beat krillin, lol the list goes onn. Krillin literally needed 18 during the TOP, and only won 1 fight because the dog or fox he was fighting was blind, then frost takes him out with his tail... No actual power needed. This is crazy lol
Saitama is not comparable to Jiren, he's more comparable to Frieza in the namek saga because of the stars he destroyed, saying he'd be strong just because he's the strongest in his series is like saying. _"Hey guys! I was the fastest track runner in high school, so I'd be the fastest in the olympics too!"_ Tough sell and no one's going to buy that. Saitama breathing in space doesn't matter, cause he's not blowing up Earth. Him grabbing a "hyperspace gate" doesn't really prove much of anything, it just means he can move the portal. So, Saitama promptly stays at multi-solar system level. Krillin on the other hand, fought Goku in a sparring match and Goku went Super Saiyan. This is interesting because Goku at the beginning of the series _(before he got SSG or godki)_ Goku fought mental images of all his previous enemies and he turned Super Saiyan then one shotted kid buu. Since Krillin fought a stronger Goku later in the series and thought Krillin was strong enough for him to need super saiyan, this means Krillin is easily above anything in DBZ now, which is enough by itself to prove he beats Saitama.
@@CoolOkay_ it’s enough for you and that’s shows your bias more than you proving anything you said is a fact. Y’all keep trying to put saitama in a box cause just like everyone else your scared of what his actual potential might be. Especially if it means he beats anyone from dbs. Fan boys are not the kinda people to Argue with cause nobody wins. Saitama is a protagonist already at the top in the beginning of his series. The only growth he can show is his ability to go harder than the person he was before. Him fighting Garou copying his techniques shows only he can affect himself in power. Goku fought a whole copy of himself in Goku black and was much weaker and lost more than three times. And none of those fight showed them blowing up countless star systems or the planet. While saitama has shown to fight someone more skilled in martial arts and copied abilities from everyone he fought before even blast, and using all those at the same time before and after become cosmic fear mode and saitama still wins no contest. There is literally nothing krillin can do to beat saitama. And saying other wise like I said just shows your bias and delusion.
@@DJxPhysiqueCBO Here you are arguing biases; yet your only form of logic is to compare 2 things at the narrative level then equate it to power- *(why?)* _Because you said so._ Like that Garou and Goku black example you gave. Garou is not Goku Black, Saitama is not Jiren, the martial arts tournament Saitama went to was not the T.o.P and is not anything like the other tournaments in the DB franchise. What I did was the standard of how most people scale anything, I looked at Saitama's strongest feat, then I looked at Krillin's strongest feat, then I deduced Krillin was stronger. Simple, I don't use the mental gymnastics that you use to say Saitama=Jiren because Saitama is strong or Garou=Goku Black because they can copy the protagonist, simply because all of those characters have different feats and context that differentiates their power and makes them less comparable.
Yes and was debunked by Toriyama and Koyama. Y’all still going by outdated cosmology? lol. Beerus is not even that, also Whis stated Moro to be Galaxy level full max which who was beating tf outta UI Goku twice and best Ultra ego Vegeta
@@Mope333 tf moro never fought ultra ego vegeta buu was stated to destroy galaxies and even the universe in a poof goku and vegeta can be proven to have gotten at bare minimum quintillions to decillions times stronger depending on statements goku shook an infinite void by existing ill re read the moro saga for you and disprove your statement and the cosmology was made by toriyama the whole afterlife and hell transcending the mortal realm and kaioshin realm being dimensions above that was created by toriyama he never said they were wrong your logic makes no sense as characters in the cell saga being solar system level and with how strong characters get later on it makes no sense for mui goku moro arc to be only galaxy let alone only multiversal im guessing you never read the manga
If your really going to sit there and say krillin is comparable to base Goku post battle of gods, because he made Goku slide back with a ki blast. Then that would mean tien is as strong as imperfect cell. because he was able to push imperfect cell down and kept him from getting back up... And if you believe that then there is no hope for you my friend lol
It’s not really a fair matchup when you have one version of Saitama from a consistent and incomplete manga, and an inconsistent Krillin from a cashgrab anime where power scaling is so bad that Krillin can be hurt by bullets in one episode and then be massively stronger than universal characters from training for 10 minutes in another episode. Yeah, DBS Krillin is more powerful than current Saitama, but DBS is basically ignores all rules and consistency. DBS is basically in the same category as Dragon Ball Heroes in terms of logic and canonicity except it gets a full series instead of a handful of OVA’s.
in my opinion it would be saitama because of his limitless power increase from fighting stronger opponents he could even defeat beerus or whis because of his invincible body just slowly increasing his power as he fights and then eventually it multiplies and he gets stronger much quicker to the point where even the grand priest would be scared of him but all you diehard dragonball fans would be like no goku could never lose i will never listen to reason lol unless you want supreme deity rimuru to level the playing field not even zeno can kill him lol
Post growth saitama is featless.He could be galaxy level or higher.We dont really know.Lets say he grew 100 times stronger and faster. So its all depends on how much power krillian puts within seconds on his kamehameha wave.Saitama's durability is god tier.I dont think krillian can beat him without god ki
This kinda covers what I was gonna say:th-cam.com/video/M0Gndvln72I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FawoElvhQioXO3zr but I see where your going with your video. Tell me anything that you think is false or anything because I’m not really smart when it comes to fictional vs battles
Something that should be mentioned is that humans can actually breathe in space in the Dragonball world Goku takes the rabbit gang to the moon in the original Dragon Ball and they are still alive to this day as we see them again in the super manga during the granola Arc. So yes Krillin can breathe in space even though we've never seen it
I honestly would not take that as an actual fact since that rabbit and his goons were made back in the FIRST arc of Dragon Ball ,where the story was a mi of comedy and adventure. And there were definitely references to Monster Carrot in manga panels like visual cameos, but do not treat that like it is some sort of crazy lore thing. It is a gag/joke.
@@napalmman8202 that might be true if it wasn't for the fact that we have literally seen humans breathing in space Before hell in Dragon Ball super there's a point where baby pan flies in space with the pilaf gang attached to her ankles. And don't give me any of that shit that they're in the stratosphere that is not where they are Toriyama has said in an interview that Korin's Tower stretches into the stratosphere and where they are is clearly far higher than even the lookout.
Just a quick update guys, I downplayed Saitama quite a bit in terms of his power pre-growth. I strongly recommend you check out my recent community post for more details on how Saitama's durability works as well as how @whygiveup11 showed me this fact. That being said, I don't think this completely invalidates the entire video video nor the conclusions about the two of them fighting. I just through it would be be right to explain this new insight that changes how Saitama's powers work within relation to this video itself. Thank you.
Last time I went to whygiveup11 he was wanking the shit out of Saitama, did he get better?
Plot twist: Saitama is actually a Dragon Ball character that ended up in the wrong universe 😂
The entire Krillin portion of power scaling could have been skipped by just comparing him to characters that we know for a fact are stronger than Saitama. Saitama couldn't even dream of universal feats. Starting in the Buu saga, the strongest characters are getting in to low-multiversal levels of power. We have quite a few outright confirmations that Buu is a universal threat. The clearest one is in the fight between Vegito and Buu after absorbing Gohan. The episode is called, "Rip in the Universe" and shows exactly that. Buu's vice shout is stated both in the anime, and in official guide books, to threaten to destroy the universe if not stopped in time. Even if you assume that base Goku at the end of Battle of Gods is only as strong as the regular fat Buu, (an absolutely insane lowball) you still have to scale him to the reality breaking and universe collapsing power of Buuhan. After that, you have arc after arc of Goku getting massively stronger. For Krillin to even stand a chance of pushing back even base Goku before the tournament of power, he'd have to be a casual low-multiversal fighter. The thing with Dragonball is that the naming scheme for astronomical bodies is off. A galaxy is called a solar system, an entire quadrant of the universe is called a galaxy, and the multiple universe sized realms are called a universe. You can see that in the guide books, and through basic observation in the series. So Cell, who was threatening to blow away the solar system, was a galaxy buster. Saitama's greatest feat was putting up half the energy it took to wipe out some star systems. Nothing to confirm or deny that it was galaxy level whatsoever. You have to ignore EVERYTHING past the Cell saga to say that Krillin doesn't erase Saitama at the subatomic level with the gust of wind generated by scratching his nutsack.
Lmao bias? Didn’t he kick away a 4D gate with EASE?
Krillin is washed tho
Physical wise I think Kuririn can definitely push Saitama to be serious but Saitama growth potential is literally Earthling version of Super Broly so he definitely gonna go past Kuririn in a short period of time,
But Kuririn does have an advantage of Energy gathering, Energy Control, and on top of being a capable fighter,
I think Kuririn is pretty smart fighter, But he just too bothering with his own capabilities, like... He keeps judging himself and put himself behind others
And without a stakes to lose like No.18 or his daughter on the line, Kuririn is holding back by his own nature being that he can't take himself as seriously.
We seem to be on a pretty similar page my friend, great analysis!
@@toughmangaming8275 Thanks mate! Love your deep analyzing!
"earthling version of super broly"
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No
1. It's stated that Saitama's high emotions (because he thought Geno's DIED) is why that growth even happened.
Saitama wankers acting like he grows like that every time he fights
2. Krillen scales too far above Saitama for that growth to even matter. 🤦🤦
@HeroricSpirit Freinen broly only gets power due to his emotions aka the angrier he gets the more powerful he gets so Saitama is like an earthling version of broly
@HeroricSpirit Freinen krillin does not scale above Saitama, krilin is at best super perfect cell level which is solar system while Saitama is at the very least solar system plus and since he broke his limiters he can get stronger but yes he does need a catalyst for it like emotions , but it could be something else next time ,I'm sorry but krillin ain't winning
alucard from Hellsing
Alucard from Hellsing Abridged.
11:41 Depending on the specifics, this feat could EASILY be low universal. If the clash ACTUALLY wiped out all those stars, then Saitama would be approaching universal levels of power. However, if the clash merely wiped out the LIGHT that was in the region of sky (somehow), then this would probably place him closer to solar system level. Everyone would just have to wait a while for the light to reach Earth again, and everyone would be able to see the stars again.
Awesome! Thank you so much for the clarification!
How exactly would this be universal? I just wanna know because stars are literally *nothing* compared to universes and galaxies. just to know your pov or whateva
@@TruXavia It's because of the distances involved. Though on second thought, it might be a bit closer to high galactic cluster rather than low universal, but they're not too far apart. Like I said in my previous comment there are two possibilities. One puts him around high solar system in level, and the other puts him around high glactic cluster or low universal.
1. High Solar system: If the energy from his attack erased the LIGHT that was between the stars, and not actually the stars themselves, this means that his power was enough to block the light from a large chunk of the sky. However because this feat would be blocking the light at a point "relatively" close to Earth, this limits the potential power of the attack. Think of like a solar eclipse, the moon is a LOT smaller than the Sun, but it can still block like 98% of the light from the Sun when it happens because it's a lot closer, and between the Sun and Earth.
2. Low Universal/High Galctic Cluster: If the energy from his attack erased the ACTUAL STARS in that region of space, this MONSTROUSLY improves his scaling. Considering that some of those "stars" are actually galaxies that are millions of lightyears away, this would easily place the range of his energy in the millions of lightyears. From a very quick amount of research, the farthest things normal people can see is the Andromeda galaxy which is about 2.5 million lightyears away.
While the Andromeda galaxy might not have been in that patch of sky, just the fact that it was rendered void could easily scale his power into the millions of lightyears of destructive diameter. Considering that many humans/monsters/machines/etc... in OPM have FAR better "eyesight" than normal people, it's possible they could see a LOT farther. This improved visual acuity makes, the distance required to make the sky "starless" VASTLY increase, potentially placing the affected diameter into the many millions of lightyears.
While I highly doubt that Murata was drawing to place Saitama on the upper end of the scale, if you take the feat to a logical point, you can reasonably make the argument that Saitama could be low universal in power. Personally though I think Saitama is high solar system level, but that doesn't mean other ideas can just be disregarded entirely.
@@eclipseslayer98I guess that makes sense, ty
@@toughmangaming8275 listen to a piece of advice I know you love power scaling and I don't I'm going to tell you the truth saitama wins that's just a simple fact and I'm not trying to be mean
Finally, someone who can scale Saitama without heavily wanking his feats
Thanks so much for the credit! Unfortunetly though, I think I might've down played Saitama just a bit, for more info, check out my recent community post!
@@toughmangaming8275 No problem, hope to see more of these kinda videos in the future
I loved your SSB video and was hoping to see your next videos in a month or two but I'm so happy it was way sooner I really hope you keep growing man
Thank you so much friend!
I like your simplistic style of editing, keep it up!
Krillin = has hair (but shaves it)
Saitama = does not have hair
saitama solos.
Your content is great my dude! Keep it up!!
When it comes to saitama vs any DragonBall character, there isn't really a correct answer.
Saitama was literally created to be unbeatable and very possibly has infinite potential. Someone like krillin has pretty much seen the limit a human can get in the DragonBall verse.
It also depends on the circumstances whether if they are fighting to kill or whoever gives up first because someone like Saitama seems to have near limitless stamina. If Saitama is also angry like he was against garou he would rapidly increase in power throughout the fight, but all we've seen from krillin in that regard is him getting a rapid boost from anger but only for a short time.
Thats y saitama would probably neg krillin but having saitama vs goku or beerus would be harder to debate simply because of the feats we've seen so far.
Just my opinion tho 🤷
I think your stance is perfectly valid, I hope was able to convey such a stance in the video as I also think it could go either way and there are situations where the two beat each other
Toasterxd made a video on this and why goku completely destroys him so their is an right answer
@@toughmangaming8275there is no situation when krillin wins this.. lol
nah he doesnt have infinite potential he even said it by himself
@@truebreakage9003 that video was wrong too lol
Shaved > Bald
This video actually got me to respect krillin. I didn't know he was this strong!
But not stronger than Saitama, Destructo Disc is his most powerful attack and can cut thru a Solar system if may but idk if beyond that. Saitama is durable but Krillin Destructo Disc can cut thru a person many times stronger than the user
there is saying where i live, that states ´´Krillin in the Narutoverse is God`` LMAO
Personally i agree with Dainzeshuu and guides, so Goku in the battle of Gods would be a 5D being, and as you stated and clearly shown here 30:13 then that means Krillin is at least at 5D ranges of power.
I just wanna point out…. How can you point out Gamma Garou’s attacks not affecting the people around while ignoring that God Goku was gonna destroy the Macrocosm until he techniqued his way not to and Cell Max being mindless and exchanging blows with orange Piccolo and the planet barely even noticing
Goku wasn’t trying to destroy that 😂 where you get that? It was Beerus power, Goku had to nullify
@@Mope333 by equaling Beerus power to do so. My point still stands, you just gave context and made a mistake
@@zacariasnelson5753 Well only planets was affected, I don’t see how that was going to destroy the universe
@@zacariasnelson5753 also seeing how others was unaffected
@@Mope333 it was literally sated that the entire macrocosm was going to be destroyed, that’s why elder Kai and Kabitokai were freaking out. That’s par for the course in DBS power scaling that it begins with a multiversal level feat
krill dawg gotta be multi uni
Noooo his strongest attack “Destructo Disc” is Solar-system level. Idk if Beerus is even Multi uni
@@Mope333 the lowest lowball for クリリン is like multi galaxy level
@@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap How when it’s stated? 😂🤦🏿♂️ yall don’t wanna accept facts from the writer?
Saitama is the strongest in his own verse. So each fight he starts off suppressed. Him growing “stronger” is just him using the power he already has.
Krillin is far superior to any and all of the power that Saitama has. So no Saitama will not beat Krillin
I kinda heard a theory that if hercule satan was in one punch man he'd be a high A class hero or low S class hero, I'm kinda curious is he actually stacks up to that level, since i know what the high S class levels are but am less familiar of the power level of low S class. My only frame of reference that comes to mind is tank top master being able to throw a small building.
That is an interesting theory and would make for an interesting video topic! My guess though is that Satan is more in the upper limits of B class or low A as we know Amai mask at the top of A is pretty damn strong and even lower S class like Tank Top Master has a lot of prowess in fighting skill as well as strength
Satan can perception blitz normal people with guns and pull several buses
Overall really good video. Was speed equalized in this? I dont recall you saying so but if you did then disregard this but if you just forgot to mention it then krillin should easily outspeed saitama by a wide margin meaning saitama wouldn't land any attacks. I honestly do believe krillin scales somewhat to battle of gods goku simply because android 18 is shown to be an equal to krillin when they team up to battle multiple opponents and later on when she fights by herself she can fight characters that can hang with goku and vegeta in their blue forms like ribbriane, viara, and anilaza so krillin at the bare minimum is comparable to battle of gods goku meaning krillin could one shot saitama pre-growth and post-growth.
29:40 Same krillin, the same day got shot by a bullet and bleed from it
30:57 Goku Super Saiyan form = his SSG by the end of the Battle of God arc.
So his base form his 50 times weaker than the SSG transformation,
as for the SSG transformation multiplier itself, it is way less than the initial ritual increase otherwise it would have smashed Kefla. (in the 2,000 to 3,000x range)
32:17 Narrative in DBS Super (the manga) tells us that Moro Suicide attack would have "possibly" destroyed the entire Galaxy.
A suicide attack does not have any ki control,
and this was a Moro overfeed by Angel energy so he was uber boosted.This would have killed everyone except Whis, so Beerus was included.
And I am pretty certain that Beerus is stronger than Krillin or even Jiren (in the manga).
39:50 Pretty ironic when all the "galaxy/universe" level stuff coming from DB are hyperbole or just statements.
Nothing visual or factual that is usually retcon within chapters.
A great video man. Normally I don't bother w/topics that compare/versus characters when one of said characters is so obviously meant to be overpowered if not unbeatable. Like Saitama and Supes. But your point of Krillin forcing out the super saiyan multiplier in their spar shouldn't be overlooked. Especially considering it already is, given how all anybody cares about in that spar is Goku going blue. Obviously he isn't beating that. p.s. Also I thought Krillin asked him too do that...or was that Gohan?
Jeep these vids coming. Goku vs Saitama next? Or maybe Saiyan or Namek saga Goku vs the Purple Piccolo Alien look-alike in the first episode of One Punch Man.
Might be a big ask but doing the ssb video for every form will literally make my lifetime
That would be quite the extensive project, but not one I would turn down! Maybe one day!
@@toughmangaming8275 I’m subscribed so I’m here for the long haul ;)
We’re gonna get this video more views somehow.
Haha, thanks so much!
I need to point out during the serious punch squared Garou and saitama took out countless galaxies as well not just Stars. Because you can see in a different panel close up that the galaxies are very close to the Stars so when you zoom out the galaxies are still there they're just smaller but you can tell them from the Stars because the galaxies are much bigger. Putting the serious punch Square easily at multi Galaxy.
I'm trying to figure out why a lot of power scalars who scale don't notice something so simple it's hard to miss unless you're trying to miss it.
And another thing that people don't notice including you is that saitama literally only took damage whenever garou went into saitama mode. The nuclear fission didn't do anything to saitama the gamma-ray burst didn't phase saitama. The only thing that did some damage was when Garou was hitting saitama with his very own power. Don't believe me? go back and look at it. Cosmic garou and saitama were on the same level of power so it doesn't make sense that the nuclear fission didn't do any damage to saitama nor did the gamma-ray burst. But yet they are literally in the same realm of power but the only thing that actually did damage is whenever garou went into saitama mode. And they made sure to visibly show it to so simply being in the same realm of power isn't going to do any damage to saitama the majority of people don't realize this including you and the people in your comment section.
A lot of people don't understand that saitama power is special so much to the point that it even phases him when used against him the way garou was able to utilize it.
So based on what was actually shown simply being in the same realm of power is not going to do damage to saitama. Based on what was shown you're actually going to get some damage in if you can literally use his own power against him and strike him with it. Don't believe me go back and look at every attack that Cosmic garou threw at saitama and look at his reactions. And then look at his reaction when Garou went into saitama mode.
Krillin isn't going to be able to damage saitama. And another thing with his exponential growth it's completely unknown how powerful he has become so you sitting here putting a power level limit on what you think he's at right now is already factually wrong. They made his level of power a complete mystery again. And even with that we got people still trying to lowball it and make it seem reasonable when his exponential growth there was literally nothing reasonable about that.
Let's put this into perspective garou was able to mode change at speeds massively faster than light. But yet saitama exponential growth was so fast that by the time garou went into saitama mode saitama was already passed that stage of power and everytime Garou copied the Gap just got worse and worse and worse so much that even he could not keep up with how fast saitama's rate of growth was.
It skyrocketed to such a ridiculous degree that Garou literally just gave up and tried to run it skyrocketed to such a ridiculous degree that he couldn't even measure how strong saitama was anymore that's how crazy fast this man growth was. And another thing that people are ignoring is they don't understand just how fast this growth happened. This didn't take seconds this didn't even take nanoseconds it was much much faster than that.
Scaling saitama in the first place just doesn't work his feats never match how strong he actually is. It's really laughable that people honestly believe Krillin can take on saitama simply because he has demonstrated good feats.
You're literally comparing a character who was made to literally punch away any problem no matter what it is who literally is infinitely strong. And you're putting him up against Krillin who struggles in all of his battles who takes damage from attacks that aren't even on his level of durability.
The feat formula works perfectly well when you got characters who are always showing their upper limits and who you know who has limits. Therefore you can easily determine who wins by comparing their feats.
But you got some characters saitama is a perfect example whose Feats literally never match his full power. And now y'all put saitama in this situation to where he is literally only as strong as the Feats he has showcased when y'all know for a fact that he is way beyond that. So to sit here and say Krillin beats saitama because he has better feats knowing full well that saitama is the very essence of Limitless strength. That saitama was literally designed to punch away any problem. And is literally only fazed by his own power being used against him but even with that you barely do any damage to him. A character whose exponential growth is so unfair that it's basically a cheat code. Y'all really got the audacity to sit here and say Krillin defeats saitama because he has better feats..... that's beyond crazy. You can't scale every character the same way and expect a accurate outcome. Especially when it comes to saitama.
Saitama is washing Krillin
So, there's quite a lot to unpack here. Firstly, I think I totally understand why you think scaling Saitama can only be effected by people on his own scale of power and I would agree as Garo had to be within Saitama's realm to damage him. I just disagree that Saitama's power pre growth is some sort of special ability that can only pierce his own durability. I think that's clear in the manga as Garo literally uses the phrases "we're in the same realm of power" after scratching Saitama with his own mode then moves on to use the GRB. I understand it's your interpretation, but I think it's weird how Garo literally says that their in the same realm and then use an attack that he would percieve as way weaker than Saitamas Normal Consectutive Punches.
Also I if you reached towards the end of the vs section, then you'll know that I address that Saitama post growth is damn near impossible to scale. But, to say that he shouldn't scale him at all because of that I think is know of a silly notion as I think if the discussion is handled well, there's a way to talk about him in a matter that 's respectful to him as a character and I tried my damndest to cover all bases pretty well. I think within both stories' I cover how their power is handled in their respective narrative and how that would play into a fight between the two of them.
@@toughmangaming8275I'm going to make a quick video response to this comment because you need to see this information.
@@whygiveup11 Ope, alrighty
@@whygiveup11 hey man, would you want to talk via discord to discuss stuff, I feel like that would be easier than making video responses
@@toughmangaming8275okay I got it let me know when you're ready to do the Discord call. Because I'm ready now
Something small you missed, is in the Movie DBS Super Hero, Krillin throw a Kienzan and hurt Cell Max, who is around Broly level or more.
Y'all really think krillin stacks because of his feats... Krillin... One of the weakest in his verse and first to be eliminated in the TOP... Vs someone who wouldn't have been eliminated in a competition like that. Krillin doesn't scale to anyone just because he can hang in a fight for a little while. Krillin shoes no feats against a big bad guy other than Frieza. Which he died in that ark. Krillin was dead in the buu saga. And didn't help much in the top arc. Most of krillin feats come from surprise attacks with opponents not thinking he'd be a challenge. Against someone stronger his crutch is his famous destructo disk.. which doesn't mean anything to higher godly levels of fighters. Even when Goku used it Jiren caught it and threw it back. Jiren being much like Saitama was unphased by much of that. And if your going to say Saitama can't catch a disk throw by krillin, Saitama has shown far more impressive feats like kicking and moving hyper space gates. There really isn't that much of a match up here. Krillin being stronger than a certain form of Goku doesn't imply he can show the same feats or tenacity as any version of Goku has shown when krillin is the main one of the side lines cheering him on to do something nobody else can do. Even Vegeta someone much closer to Goku in actual strength has been shown to do the same. Most of the monsters that can be at up S class heros in Saitama verse can one shit krillin. Especially the one who crashed the tournament Saitama went to just to experience martial arts. You were better off making this video about the guy who won that tournament vs krillin... And not Saitama just cause they're both bald. Smh useless debate. Krillin dies if the earth explodes. Saitama won't and can survive the vacuum if space and can even command his atoms to do a technique that allows him to go back in time and punch krillin before the fight even starts. There's really no contest here. Krillin hasn't learned and doesn't make it a habit to train with gods or even ask whis for training. Training he most likely wouldn't survive the way Goku and Vegeta did. While on the other hand training Saitama to copy an ultimate martial art you'd have to learn from a literal god or a being that has cosmic powers didn't take a while episode or a trip to a hyperbolic time chamber. He learned it right then and there. No contest.
You have some decent points, but Krillin isn’t that weak, not when he has some confidence at least. Like no one except Saitama, Garou, God, and maybe Blast might be too much for him. Gouketsu has no chance, even Boros has little chance, since he is around first form Frieza and Krillin should be above that by now.
@@ZigTheHunter I get that, but get this, who has Frieza ever been scared to fight? Would krillin fight Goku when he first turned ssj? No cause he'd be shaking in his boots, even in the cell ark where people assume krillin is much stronger than Frieza he wouldn't be able to hold a candle to the kind of fighter Frieza is. Ruthless fighters have always been able to kill krillin. He literally gets one shot by most of the big bads goons. Even in super he saw everyone that killed him. That's a lot of people. Too many to name. And even though people say he is stronger than the people in those illusions if they were anything but that they'd have blitz him. Good thing it was a test and not real. Speed below a certain level in Dragonball is all relative. Just because krillin has seen certain fight doesn't mean he be able to hang in those same fights if it were him. Krillin is my guy but I'm not about to lie for him just because we are talking about someone outside of his verse. And goketsu definitely murders krillin lol, dude is beyond human levels of durability. And speed is crazy too. Even if krillin is fast dude can still dodge attacks and fight at a martial arts level. Krillin would put up a decent fight, but he's loosing that battle too. All monster forms of garou beats him too. Shit phoenix man can beat krillin. Platinum S can beat krillin, lol the list goes onn. Krillin literally needed 18 during the TOP, and only won 1 fight because the dog or fox he was fighting was blind, then frost takes him out with his tail... No actual power needed. This is crazy lol
Saitama is not comparable to Jiren, he's more comparable to Frieza in the namek saga because of the stars he destroyed, saying he'd be strong just because he's the strongest in his series is like saying. _"Hey guys! I was the fastest track runner in high school, so I'd be the fastest in the olympics too!"_ Tough sell and no one's going to buy that. Saitama breathing in space doesn't matter, cause he's not blowing up Earth. Him grabbing a "hyperspace gate" doesn't really prove much of anything, it just means he can move the portal. So, Saitama promptly stays at multi-solar system level.
Krillin on the other hand, fought Goku in a sparring match and Goku went Super Saiyan. This is interesting because Goku at the beginning of the series _(before he got SSG or godki)_ Goku fought mental images of all his previous enemies and he turned Super Saiyan then one shotted kid buu. Since Krillin fought a stronger Goku later in the series and thought Krillin was strong enough for him to need super saiyan, this means Krillin is easily above anything in DBZ now, which is enough by itself to prove he beats Saitama.
@@CoolOkay_ it’s enough for you and that’s shows your bias more than you proving anything you said is a fact. Y’all keep trying to put saitama in a box cause just like everyone else your scared of what his actual potential might be. Especially if it means he beats anyone from dbs. Fan boys are not the kinda people to Argue with cause nobody wins. Saitama is a protagonist already at the top in the beginning of his series. The only growth he can show is his ability to go harder than the person he was before. Him fighting Garou copying his techniques shows only he can affect himself in power. Goku fought a whole copy of himself in Goku black and was much weaker and lost more than three times. And none of those fight showed them blowing up countless star systems or the planet. While saitama has shown to fight someone more skilled in martial arts and copied abilities from everyone he fought before even blast, and using all those at the same time before and after become cosmic fear mode and saitama still wins no contest. There is literally nothing krillin can do to beat saitama. And saying other wise like I said just shows your bias and delusion.
@@DJxPhysiqueCBO Here you are arguing biases; yet your only form of logic is to compare 2 things at the narrative level then equate it to power- *(why?)* _Because you said so._ Like that Garou and Goku black example you gave. Garou is not Goku Black, Saitama is not Jiren, the martial arts tournament Saitama went to was not the T.o.P and is not anything like the other tournaments in the DB franchise.
What I did was the standard of how most people scale anything, I looked at Saitama's strongest feat, then I looked at Krillin's strongest feat, then I deduced Krillin was stronger. Simple, I don't use the mental gymnastics that you use to say Saitama=Jiren because Saitama is strong or Garou=Goku Black because they can copy the protagonist, simply because all of those characters have different feats and context that differentiates their power and makes them less comparable.
Krillin is multiversal do you know how the db cosmos works
Yes and was debunked by Toriyama and Koyama. Y’all still going by outdated cosmology? lol. Beerus is not even that, also Whis stated Moro to be Galaxy level full max which who was beating tf outta UI Goku twice and best Ultra ego Vegeta
@@Mope333 tf moro never fought ultra ego vegeta buu was stated to destroy galaxies and even the universe in a poof goku and vegeta can be proven to have gotten at bare minimum quintillions to decillions times stronger depending on statements goku shook an infinite void by existing ill re read the moro saga for you and disprove your statement and the cosmology was made by toriyama the whole afterlife and hell transcending the mortal realm and kaioshin realm being dimensions above that was created by toriyama he never said they were wrong your logic makes no sense as characters in the cell saga being solar system level and with how strong characters get later on it makes no sense for mui goku moro arc to be only galaxy let alone only multiversal im guessing you never read the manga
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If your really going to sit there and say krillin is comparable to base Goku post battle of gods, because he made Goku slide back with a ki blast. Then that would mean tien is as strong as imperfect cell. because he was able to push imperfect cell down and kept him from getting back up... And if you believe that then there is no hope for you my friend lol
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Saitama quite literally says it would be bad if he lets the GRB even *graze the earth*
It’s not really a fair matchup when you have one version of Saitama from a consistent and incomplete manga, and an inconsistent Krillin from a cashgrab anime where power scaling is so bad that Krillin can be hurt by bullets in one episode and then be massively stronger than universal characters from training for 10 minutes in another episode. Yeah, DBS Krillin is more powerful than current Saitama, but DBS is basically ignores all rules and consistency. DBS is basically in the same category as Dragon Ball Heroes in terms of logic and canonicity except it gets a full series instead of a handful of OVA’s.
Thankfully you didn't use that Buu saga filler of yamcha fighting olibu lol that was so dumb.
Super scalling is crazy enough already.
I have NEVER seen Krillin do what Saitama has done and also things don’t work like that.
in my opinion it would be saitama because of his limitless power increase from fighting stronger opponents he could even defeat beerus or whis because of his invincible body just slowly increasing his power as he fights and then eventually it multiplies and he gets stronger much quicker to the point where even the grand priest would be scared of him but all you diehard dragonball fans would be like no goku could never lose i will never listen to reason lol unless you want supreme deity rimuru to level the playing field not even zeno can kill him lol
who indeed
Ain’t no way you think krillin scratching Saitama enraged or not. Do t get me wrong am a dbz fan 😂😂
Post growth saitama is featless.He could be galaxy level or higher.We dont really know.Lets say he grew 100 times stronger and faster. So its all depends on how much power krillian puts within seconds on his kamehameha wave.Saitama's durability is god tier.I dont think krillian can beat him without god ki
probably krillin. as a police officer of pure heart he is sure to defeat saitama.
Bro Saitama and garou would have it rough with Namek saga SSJgoku 😂
Saitama is roughly Galaxy lvl same as garou. Maybe galaxy at best
No just no
@@supesisfodder7427yep. Cope.
This kinda covers what I was gonna say:th-cam.com/video/M0Gndvln72I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FawoElvhQioXO3zr but I see where your going with your video. Tell me anything that you think is false or anything because I’m not really smart when it comes to fictional vs battles
Sorry, but my favorite character is Infinity x2. So you lose.
Unfortunately Krillin is too weak to be the stronger bald guy.
Too bad little girl 👧 krillin solos bud verse
@@supesisfodder7427Saitama takes Krillin to Space, Krillin DIESSS 😂 factsssss
@@supesisfodder7427hhahahaah debunk dat!
Something that should be mentioned is that humans can actually breathe in space in the Dragonball world Goku takes the rabbit gang to the moon in the original Dragon Ball and they are still alive to this day as we see them again in the super manga during the granola Arc. So yes Krillin can breathe in space even though we've never seen it
I honestly would not take that as an actual fact since that rabbit and his goons were made back in the FIRST arc of Dragon Ball ,where the story was a mi of comedy and adventure. And there were definitely references to Monster Carrot in manga panels like visual cameos, but do not treat that like it is some sort of crazy lore thing. It is a gag/joke.
@@napalmman8202 that might be true if it wasn't for the fact that we have literally seen humans breathing in space Before hell in Dragon Ball super there's a point where baby pan flies in space with the pilaf gang attached to her ankles. And don't give me any of that shit that they're in the stratosphere that is not where they are Toriyama has said in an interview that Korin's Tower stretches into the stratosphere and where they are is clearly far higher than even the lookout.
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Sureeee 😂 God can blink Kid Goku from existence. Funny how kid Goku is stronger than Goku lol, a Rock hurt Goku lol