But they have regulations, restrictions, warning labels on pretty much everything from age, quality to advertising. Also the taxes generated are phenomenal which help pay for your schools, healthcare etc... Yours is typical childish response from someone that is probably not responsible to even take recreational drugs.
Alcohol bottles state exactly how many units there are so you know how much alcohol you are consuming. As for cigarettes it's advertised on the boxes themselves that they are deadly, and anyway there isn't an exact cut off of a certain number of cigarettes that will kill you. I very much support the decriminalisation and regulation of drugs exactly so that things like these dangerously strong pills don't get accidentally taken and end up in death.
I made the mistake to take a whole pill (180mg) for my very first time. I had never touched any other substances other than alcohol and weed before. Without being educated, I took the whole pill and after 1-2 hours of being full of energy, I had to sit down and then all my muscles gave up on me. My friends put headphones on my head and let me listen to PsyTrance (never heard that stuff before either). And it was the most intense first trip you could imagine. I'm not sure if I was close to dying, but I felt like I was, and I didn't care. It was as if I was flying through space, and I wasn't myself anymore. I was the music. Not sure if it's a good idea to start out with a higher dosis for your first time, but in my case it was the most beautiful experience I ever had.
Blinata McBlyat my first pill was ca 220mg, and I redosed after some hours and took 1/2 of the same one. I went full ham for like 4 hours, it was a lot of fun. Luckylie my mdma comedown only lastet for the Day After it :) (Iam 16, but I educated myself a lot about it and took the risk on my own responsebillity)
my first experience i was 14, and i had 200mg. at first i took 100mg and waited around 30 minutes. i got the starting waves but they felt very weak and i didnt know it would get more intense so i took the rest of the 100mg. after around 20 minutes the 200mg hit me all at once and it was the most intense experience ive experienced but it was amazing
Damn haha reminds me of the time I took a full orange Tesla because the previous pills i had were bunk as hell, I decided why not go with a full one and that fucker sure delivered and it was a little too intense for my taste lol
Back in the eighties and nineties, we always started off with half a pill in case the pills were really strong. If you just neck a pill without testing it first in such a way, you're downright stupid.
Exactly mate. That's what we did, half a pill initially then if only you needed it, half the other pill later on in the night. Most of the time your friend necked the other half, and the pills were purer and hence stronger then too, common sense please!!!
@@jammasterj13Eh what kind of raves did you go to? Sure I took a half first couple of time's, but soon ended up double dropping. I mean E only last's 2-3 hours...who want's to go home after only 3 hours and 1 dj set? It was called Hardcore for a reason. \m/
@@illbehaviour9785 i'm talking late 80s mid 90s, madchester dayz. Pills weren't cut with shite then, hence pills were stronger. It was only after i developed a tolerance that i took more than 1 pill, but by then the parties were over..Even in Ibiza i could get decent drugs back then..i wouldnt piss on ibiza now.. different generation differwnt drugs. The mj is the only drug thats got better. I loves ma ganja..
Those are the same days I'm talking about. well more early 90's for me. Before we had drug testing kit's or U tube to tell us how to be safe and pills cost 10-20 quid and 1 got you proper mashed. =)
PLEASE READ!!! The recommended dosage you mentioned (1.5 × bodyweight in kg) only counts for male. Females should multiply their bodyweight by 1.2 in order to get the desired effect AND stay safe.
Ecstasy abuse put my brother into a deep psychosis in 2016 and unleashed a world of mental pain upon him. From a healthy person to spending nearly 15 months in and out of a psych ward an on a rigid mental health plan. I literally witnessed him change into a shell of a human being before my eyes - a broken person. Ecstasy destroyed my family and my brother, although your experiences may be much more different and pleasant. He took his life in June 2018. I expect hate for this comment, but I felt the need to share. Have fun, but understand the consequences. Eccies aren't natural for the body.
A D sorry for your loss, ecstasy is a drug not to fuck around with. If you use it wisely it can be alot of fun. I developed aortic regurgitation after a month of E abuse, some people just have to learn the hard way unfortunately.
I was recently caught with a gram of ketamine on me by the police on a night out. I had to spend the night in jail and at the very least I get a caution which lasts 6 years. I think this was really stupid as when I was stopped and searched by the officers I was completely compliant and friendly. I did everything they asked and gave them no haslte yet I get in trouble where as I've seen loads of people on nights out who have drugs massive amounts of alcohol and are very aggressive and no compliant to the police. The war on drugs is so stupid.
different drugs have different effect on people. I don't like coke because it makes me feel sluggish and droney. Weed makes me feel anxious. Ketmaine gives me a good vibe.
If it doesn't smell like licorice, it's either bunk, or it's synthetic, made in a lab. Not saying synthetic is worse than the real stuff, but I do believe there's a difference. I don't like that they are cutting down rainforest in search of the sas, and that's a big problem in my opinion, so I have mixed feelings on synthetic. I believe in all natural when I can. Been taking kratom for years for pain. Don't need addictive drugs made in a lab, when the leaf of a tree can produce the same results as a Percocet.
Bang on mate. I'm an old timer also.. I'm also an analytical chemist. The real reason pills are so strong 220-300+ mg (and mandy is so weak - even though the purity is the highest its even been on average. Typically over 90%. Is due to the change in production methods put simply. There was a global shift from using pharmaceutically diverted PMK as a precursor to a new, perfectly legal to buy, unwatched by authorities, and solid in form at room temperature (so I guess easier to smuggle/not arose suspicions) PMK-Glycidate or a similar Glycidic ester of PMK. This gets around the law number AND it costs literally peanuts for kilogram quantities of the stuff. This is then put through a process known as Catalytic Hydrogenation typically using Platinum as the catalyst. (All publically available information - I am in no way involved in any of this /disclaimer.. 😀) This is a 2 part reaction done in the same reaction vessel (same pot basically) without any cleanup between the steps. I imagine the assumption made is that if they have done their calculations correctly then all of the Glycidate moiety will be cleaved off of the molecule leaving just PMK. This may well be the case.... so no problems so far (at least if they know WTF they're doing). What do you think happens to the Glycidate portion (in simple terms) that was stripped off of the PMK? Again, this is a 2 part reaction and they do not separate/cleanup/change vessels aka pots. Its still there! Present in solution. Point is this creates a byproduct (M-ALPHA-HMCA) that has a significantly higher binding affinity to SERT AND NA than MDMA. This causes a blockade effect, essentially meaning the MDMA can't do its job. (MDDMA from impure Methylamine has a similar blockade effect also) /science. Pills are 300mg now because what would be a strong dose producing the full effect at 120ish mg of real product... produces a barely weak, short lasting and disphoric effect with this new stuff. 300mg of real MDMA will absolutely spanner you! Trust me I've lived it xD. Has nobody noticed the new "stronger" ecstasy has little to no empathy, connection within or music enhancement. There is also a slight edginess to it and aswell as that it is money as FUCK. Literally makes me curl up in a ball in a silent room away from people by about the 2 hour mark. This stuff is absolute fucking garbage! E used to be the most FUN you could ever have with your clothes on.
@@pipesnnozzles7999 Best response I've ever gotten. You said it perfectly mate. Now I know it's not just me that can tell the difference between what's out there now, and those old school fat wafers that I started on in Simons nightclub in Gainsville Fl back in 95.😉
nothing about "How to handle strong ecstasy" in the vid mate. its more "raising awareness of existence of strong ecstasy", but that wouldn't be as catchy right & I wouldn't be here.
I'm a pretty big guy (6'2", 240lbs), and for me 90 to maybe 110 miligrams is a high enough dose. I actually prefer taking lower doses, around 60mg. You are much more aware of the experience, and are still clear enough to do some painting, play a musical instrument, do some mathematics. I can't imagine taking 200+ miligrams in a single dose. There's no need for doses that large.
1. Drink allot of water 2. Don't fall asleep 3. Maintain you're eyes open 4. Drink water but not allot but stay hydrated 5. Maintain movement with you're body if you're heart is racing you have to move it wouldn't make sense if you're just laying there and then you have a stroke no duh obviously you're gonna get a stroke if you're hearts going fast and you're laying down with no movement you gotta mantain movement and hydration and don't be daft start with halves
"Never take a full pill at once" when he said that I laughed n thought about the time I dropped 2 pills n was sick in my mates bath n just sat there in it 😂😂😂😂
the time i took mdma without testing: i was home preparing to go to a party and took two pills as usual. i got so numb i “fell asleep” on my couch. around 2hrs later i suddenly opened my eyes wide open, was pale, shivering, sweat all over my hands knees and feet. my cat came closer and my vision was so damaged i could barely see his shape, he’s a white cat so when i touched him i saw how pale i was. that’s when i knew that if i didn’t do something, i’d die right there. i gathered the last energy i had, ran to the bathroom and forced myself to throw up, i was literally gonna die right then and there. please, always check the dosage of your pills.
Double Barrel New Yorker was the strongest pill I ever took. This was the early 90’s. The dealer warned us “Just have them in halves, there strong as fuck” we all dropped a full one as usual and it knocked me and all my friends clean off our feet for a good hour! Talk about touching the hand of God!
I prefer to do half at the start off the day and then when i start coming down a bit i do the other half so im rolling for the whole day and dont have to deal with the comedown until the nextday
Everyone says their pills are like 250-300mg even if theyre actually like 100mg so new users don’t really know how much that actually is. So that 150 will sound ridicilous even tho its already a high dose. This is also a problem cause when they actually get that 250mg pill they will eat it not knowing whats actually coming...
If you have a bit of a tolerance you can take a 150-250mg pill no problem, just dont do that if its your first time. As for the comedowns, I seriously dont understand what people are talking about, I take one 180mg pill a night for 4 days at a festival and I dont redose, in the morning im just tired, maybe a bit of a comedown, but its nothing a good 8h of sleep and vitamin c wont fix... Just dont do it more than once every month, I do it at 4-5 festivals a year and thats it... Also you can check your pills with the database of this app: KnowDrugs
@Adolf Hitler only outside of the Netherlands the pills are shit, in the Netherlands its actually hard to find a pill without MDMA so testing isnt really a thing because the stuff here is good anyway. It's like buying coke in Colombia
back in the 90s me and wife would pop 3-4 pills when we club..well thats over 20 years ago..recently we did another trip..a huge pill last us the whole night..
Damn I took two points of molly Friday and it only lasted like 3 hours tops but it was wonderful feeling..just wished it lasted all night like yours lol
Oh and question: do you remember where you found this channel? I got a whole bunch of new subscribers tonight but I don't know where they're coming from! :)
You'd be able to tell if a pill had 300mg because the pill will be triple stacked... Also no dealer is just handing out 250/300mg pills for standard price, they let you know it's stronger than usual. They want you to *know* how strong it is they're not interested in surprising you or utterly fucking you over. They know what's good or bad for business, just saying.
Aye, but at parties drugs can be handed out left, right and center. Information about said drugs can be lost. Anyway, pills are old news. MDMA crystal is what you want.
+The Philosopher Don't take random pills at parties then... I would never do that. Also you're right pills are old news. People really only do crystals these days.
+The white Knight "300mg of powder is a very small amount.." No it is not. Have you ever seen 300mg before of anything? "plus most dealers want there e to be good anyways." Well by "good" I kind of meant 'dangerously good' or maybe abnormally good is a better way to put it. My point is dealers tell you when the shit's stronger than usual.
Also, the ld 50 for mdma is well over a gram. So while taking a full pill with 350mg may result in an intense, uncomfortable, neurotoxic and serotonin depleting experience with severe depression for a month afterwards, it would not be fatal in most people. I wouldn't recommend taking a full Dutch pill, but I agree with the producers: people should educate themselves.
I took a pill a couple of days ago that I was assured was the same strength as what I usually get... holy fuck it was strong I couldn't handle the come up and the peak was so intense
My ex girlfriend was an idiot because she said that you need to take 4 full pills before feeling anything. I have never taken more than 1 pill in my life and i have rolled a fair amount of times but i still feel the same effects. Also set & setting is pretty important.
Good point, great english! But most people 25years+ tell me that pills in the 95'-2008 were way stronger, or at least better quality ones, because if the dosage has increased in the last years, I guess that's not real mdma that we're taking...
@Drazen Stefanovic Oh it's definitely mdma mate, just bashed with a lot of binding agents, amphetamines mainly. crystal is the way to go these days but still get a wicked buzz of an e
Bang on mate. I'm an old timer also.. I'm also an analytical chemist. The real reason pills are so strong 220-300+ mg (and mandy is so weak - even though the purity is the highest its even been on average. Typically over 90%. Is due to the change in production methods put simply. There was a global shift from using pharmaceutically diverted PMK as a precursor to a new, perfectly legal to buy, unwatched by authorities, and solid in form at room temperature (so I guess easier to smuggle/not arouse suspicions) PMK-Glycidate or a similar Glycidic ester of PMK. This gets around the law/customs easier (as PMK comes in barrels AFAIK) AND it costs literally peanuts for kilogram quantities of the stuff. This is then put through a process known as Catalytic Hydrogenation typically using Platinum as the catalyst. (All publically available information - I am in no way involved in any of this /disclaimer.. 😀) This is a 2 part reaction done in the same reaction vessel (same pot basically) without any cleanup between the steps. I imagine the assumption made is that if they have done their calculations correctly then all of the Glycidate moiety will be cleaved off of the molecule leaving just PMK. This may well be the case.... so no problems so far (at least if they know WTF they're doing). What do you think happens to the Glycidate portion (in simple terms) that was stripped off of the PMK? Again, this is a 2 part reaction and they do not separate/cleanup/change vessels aka pots. Its still there! Present in solution. Point is this creates a byproduct (M-ALPHA-HMCA) that has a significantly higher binding affinity to SERT AND NA than MDMA. This causes a blockade effect, essentially meaning the MDMA can't do its job. (MDDMA from impure Methylamine has a similar blockade effect also) /science. Pills are 300mg now because what would be a strong dose producing the full effect at 120ish mg of real product... produces a barely weak, short lasting and dysphoric effect with this new stuff. 300mg of real MDMA will absolutely spanner you! Trust me I've lived it xD. Has nobody noticed the new "stronger" ecstasy has little to no empathy, connection within or music enhancement. There is also a slight edginess to it and aswell as that it is mongy as FUCK. Literally makes me curl up in a ball in a silent room away from people by about the 2 hour mark. This stuff is absolute fucking garbage! E used to be the most FUN you could ever have with your clothes on.
@@pipesnnozzles7999 Never expected someone would give me such a detailed, scientific explanation. I am convinced. I wonder if real MDMA is still being produced somewhere and if I have actually ever taken it. Perhaps the first E pills I took in 2014-2015...that would usually make me roll so hard and beautifully. Or perhaps that wasn't real MDMA either but I was just a virgin and were still experiencing the "magic" with those first few pills. (Even though everyone praises them as some of the best we've ever had in our country). Any idea when this shift started happening? Are the dates I'm mentioning correct?
@@erikschropfer2159 there's a lot of versatility with the drug and it's synergy with Molly and acid is out of this world. Personally it's my favorite drug with a lot of potential
my God.. the world has changed so much.. I am 30 now.. I occasionally consumed MDMA from the age of 16 to 21 (2006 - 2011) and at the time I never needed to think what's inside of each pill.. I always swallowed 2 pills at once for a start, and added third one after 2 hours.. Scheme always worked.. And now apparently it is dangerous even to swallow one pill at once :D :D :D
It's because when you're young, it's all about showing off to your friends and showing how much you can "handle". They can't even imagine being 30 with 4 kids and trying to get by but it's so hard when your memory is shot and you have untreatable depression because you overdid it when you were 17...
I'm not saying these newer higher dose pills since 2010 aren't strong they are but compared to what we had in 1989/1990 they are quite different, something has changed, I don't get that 6 hour dance urge anymore or break out into a wonderful all body sweat so much and the rushes seem to have tapered a bit. Back then 120mg was a high dose yet it done more than a double stack pill does now, some experts say it's the prevalence of the R isomer rather than the S isomer. Really need to find out exactly what's changed..yes I know that MDA was a part of the old school pills but it wasn't as common as many people think.
Bang on mate. I'm an old timer also.. I'm also an analytical chemist. The real reason pills are so strong 220-300+ mg (and mandy is so weak - even though the purity is the highest its even been on average. Typically over 90%. Is due to the change in production methods put simply. There was a global shift from using pharmaceutically diverted PMK as a precursor to a new, perfectly legal to buy, unwatched by authorities, and solid in form at room temperature (so I guess easier to smuggle/not arose suspicions) PMK-Glycidate or a similar Glycidic ester of PMK. This gets around the law number AND it costs literally peanuts for kilogram quantities of the stuff. This is then put through a process known as Catalytic Hydrogenation typically using Platinum as the catalyst. (All publically available information - I am in no way involved in any of this /disclaimer.. 😀) This is a 2 part reaction done in the same reaction vessel (same pot basically) without any cleanup between the steps. I imagine the assumption made is that if they have done their calculations correctly then all of the Glycidate moiety will be cleaved off of the molecule leaving just PMK. This may well be the case.... so no problems so far (at least if they know WTF they're doing). What do you think happens to the Glycidate portion (in simple terms) that was stripped off of the PMK? Again, this is a 2 part reaction and they do not separate/cleanup/change vessels aka pots. Its still there! Present in solution. Point is this creates a byproduct (M-ALPHA-HMCA) that has a significantly higher binding affinity to SERT AND NA than MDMA. This causes a blockade effect, essentially meaning the MDMA can't do its job. (MDDMA from impure Methylamine has a similar blockade effect also) /science. Pills are 300mg now because what would be a strong dose producing the full effect at 120ish mg of real product... produces a barely weak, short lasting and disphoric effect with this new stuff. 300mg of real MDMA will absolutely spanner you! Trust me I've lived it xD. Has nobody noticed the new "stronger" ecstasy has little to no empathy, connection within or music enhancement. There is also a slight edginess to it and aswell as that it is money as FUCK. Literally makes me curl up in a ball in a silent room away from people by about the 2 hour mark. This stuff is absolute fucking garbage! E used to be the most FUN you could ever have with your clothes on.
I did 3 and a half 220mgs ones during 6 hours not knowing it was 220 at first.(Also drank a shit ton of alcohol before i downed the pills) I´ve never felt better, no issues at all in the whole world.. Atleast that was the case during the night. When i tried to sleep i suddenly had paintings in my room, that was moving (I do not have any paintings) There was smoke or water running down the walls, shadows were moving and i could not stop hearing the music we had been blasting, (Psycadelic trance) 3 days after i triggered some sort of panic attack, and had to see a doctor to help me recover etc etc. This was about 5 months ago, i am still not fully recovered from the consequences i suffered. So yeah, do the pills with responsibility, order 5http pills they will help you recover, eat and drink alot of water the day after and before. Ofcourse drink water while your high aswell, but not to much! it´s easy to get paranoid and drink TOO much water. Happy safe raving:D
He is absolutely right. Also, never trust random dealers in the music festivals or parties. BTW it would be best to keep control of the damage you are causing to your brain and mind (especially with X OD). Stay safe.
What a great source of info. Just subbed. I just wanted to add, it's not just about weight. That's a great way to go for most, though. But there is a thing called "metabolizer statuses." Basically broken down into 4 groups: the Ultrarapid Metabolizer (that's me, which means I need more of the drug to get the "normal" effect), the Extensive Metabolizer (that's normal and most common), the intermediate metabolizer where a normal dose is way to much, and the Poor Metabolizer who breaks down these "meds" very slowly. Without a gene test, it's hard to know which you are, so breaking shit up is the greatest advice. Thanks for the advice!
Controlled Substance yup I think the same, also such ppl usually have quite a big tolerance... this was never my cup of tea honestly, I was more into the results of research endeavor of Dr. Hoffman, one must really appraise his contribution to science :-)
Potency Desire in IV drugs is deduced by overdose. If users hear about someone overdosing they want to know how to get that batch. Overdose can be the Indicator for high potency or straight up poison...the difference is based in quantities used, tolerance and frequency of use, route of administration, and if theres other drugs onboard. Be safe folks.
In mijn tienerjaren ben ik echt gek geweest, en dat door onwetendheid. Op een keer had ik twaalf pillen en na twee uur had ik ze bijna allemaal op. Toen wist ik dit allemaal niet. Heb dikwijls geluk gehad denk ik. Gelukkig heb ik dat meer dan 15 jaar niet meer genomen... 🙏
I used to take three at a time (triple drop) and keep one for later back in the early 2000's when ecstasy quality was on the decline, it was the best way of getting the full experience out of something that was most likely partially impure, even though I knew my dealer was reasonably good. It's better to just take a high dose of a single tablet than have to dangerously take three in one go. Back in the day of white doves one was enough for the entire night, the typical dose might be statistically low, but people desire a full high and that is only taken in strength.
I was the same way, in the early 2000’s I would take 3 at once because that was the amount that would get me rolling even though I had no idea what mg they were and got them from different people, also I weighed about 300 pounds back then, but I think now if the strong pills today if they were around in the mid to late 2000’s and I took 3 I’d be fucked
Banged a blue punisher around 4pm and it’s currently 3:15am I’m not high anymore but I’m still tripping out a bit and on a come down. Would recommend tho amazing time
Last time I took a third of a half of a strong pill and I can say that was almost enough for me. I don't want to know what would have happened if I took the whole pill
i think the issue might also be misinformation. there are still weak pills going around but of course they are maladvertised with high doses. so if you start off with a pill thats said to contain 200mg (maybe acquired through not so reliable sellers on raves) and get a moderate effect, you wont buy a pill thats said to contain 120mg later, even though it might be the same amount but labelled correctly.
I recently took 3 ecstasy pills in less then 3 hours. I definitely remember peaking multiple times, and I was definitely sweating bullets. I was able to control myself and I felt a small amount of psychedelic to it (I characterized it as a 100ug trip, but I have always been a hard head when it comes to this stuff. Can anyone predict how many mg of mdma I actually took? I remember looking online and finding test results that said that the pill size was around 450mg and the ratio of mdma was 1. I don't know if this is believable though, cause 450mg is a fuck ton.
I know you probably won’t believe me but the most pure mdma I ingested in one night was an entire 3 grams at once of uncut rock (3000mg) I was young, dumb and just bought 10 grams of dutch mdma straight from the Netherlands on the dark web for 80 Aussie dollars, I wanted to see what tripping out on md was like as I was curious to push my understanding of the experience in high doses. Next thing yknow I’m sitting on my bedroom floor talking to the wall as though I am still at my checkout-counter serving customers at work. (Worked at Coles at the time) and am scanning invisible items preparing them for invisible customers, all the while chatting merrily to them like a happy worker, my little brother then walks in and snaps me out of it temporarily saying “who are u talking to” I then looked down at myself and remembered where I was, and responded with.. “ I think I took WAY too much md” And that I did... but not without taking another 2 grams the following weekend which resulted in me violently shaking as though I was freezing cold but was dripping sweat and also had lockjaw, just sitting there on the couch looking insane. My youngest brother looked terrified but I was alright. Was good fun. The week after that i had just 1 gram swallowed at once with a tab of lsd, I was playing with my visuals if that makes sense, as in hand up toying with my visuals as they moved around. Good stuff ay? You think that’s a lot of drugs? Wait till you hear me speak out my old benzo habit 🙏 does 38 2mg bricks with half a litre of rum sound appealing? You tell me
Great video ! So many people take too much of these. It also has very bad effects on the long terms, i have seen a small girl eat 4 pills that i knew half a pill was enough for most, and feel very little effect ! I'm pretty sure she abused it and grew used to it or she took too many not long ago and her brain didn't get time to produce the serotonin again ps: i love how he clearly is used to breaking the pill into smaller pieces... says a lot lol
I really like your videos, but at that part where you say that one strong pill can last for multiple days, you should have added that nobody should ever take MDMA for a few consecutive days.
You're right, that's a good addition. Spreading it out can be of little use and might bring you down for the second half of the week. (Although one pill spread out over two or three days probably won't be the end of you. It's just not a great experience, like drinking so much that it makes you sick.)
When people are educated, they can be safe. This channel does a great job education wise. Make sure you're careful when taking anything is the best advice though.
+Controlled Substance, Absolutely wonderful channel you're running here. I think all of us would agree that you're doing some seriously important, yet seriously *undervalued* work for the world. I have a question, if you'd grace me with your response: What do you think about dark net mdma? Really considering it, since the domestic US market is so unreliable.
OMFW - everyone just stop. ✋🏼 It’s a very subjective thing bcuz some will want a different desired dosage and therefore different desired effect. Some will want to just #Microdose And Others Will Want To Be Borderline Hospitalized - so again ... it’s very subjective & a personal thing ‼️M-Kay⁉️
Well, but strong is still strong - the consume intentions may differ, like you said, but that doesn´t mean there´s not an objective strenght of the pill.
I’ve always wondered what the “desired result” is. The more you take it appears to give more stimulation, but is there a peak to the “magic”? Once ur where you want to be do you know?
witches' reall nah the side effects are the same regardless the way you do it I quited xtc long time ago as I find the experience has a limit and doesn’t go further I only do mashrooms acid and weed
Sebas Alink if you haven’t try psychedelics is almost impossible to put this experience in words It’s like trying to describe colors to a blind man The experience is profound and you learn a lot about yourself and the nature of reality It gives you the possibility to see things from a different perspective A new point of view, a new angle Ego dissolving experience Everything you think you know could be wrong I suggest it
im 85kg and dosage lower than 180mg for me is fine, but what I call it : it doesnt break the shell. 200mg - I WILL RAVE TO THE END OF THE WORLD WITH MY FRIENDS, AND IT NEVER STOPS AT ONE. I always say days later that I shouldn't, but these nights also always deliver magic nights with lots of memories to remember to the end of my life... I am pretty sure there are lots of people who understand my statement. :) Have fun guys and always use your head first.
Love the redbull one (i live in greece) we also take the half one and the other half when we feel like but more because we just feel like it lasts more like that than just taking it all and having strong high and then just leave you down.. even tho it makes me feel depressed some times when the effect leaves the body i love it
Elliott Johnson Easy, don't take Ecstasy as an ignorant, underaged idiot, don't tell me what to do when I'm 27 and able to take responsibilities for my actions.
As far as I was aware, 500mg - 1 gram is the danger (lethal) zone (taken all at once), my best experiences using MDMA was when I took 250 - 300mg of pure MDMA crushed up and swallowed inside a rizzla, and I never took any less than 0.25 grams because otherwise I had a shit time, a good time on MDMA to me is when you can't control your facial expressions, you're hugging the grass literally, you melt into the sofa and feel the best experience of your life, me and my mates were so fucked that one time all 4 of us sat outside in the kids park BUTT NAKED at 3am, the standard for me now is I always take at least 0.4g... I never take exctasy pills because they're so weak and contain other stiumulants... Seriously people, you're missing out on the true MDMA experience... Warning: Only take large doses of MDMA with those you love and could share anything with and people you trust because it will put you in a very vulnerable state. Shorter version: Pills = Bad, weak, mixed Pure MDMA = Take 0.25g-0.4g for the best experience of your life
Sorry man.. not intended as a personal attack but this is bad advice to put out there as a generalisation. I have also taken enormous quantites of Mandy/pills back in my 20s... It's not so much the amount over the night taken... But the initial dose. As with mdxx, rapid tachyphylaxis kicks in within an hour or so.. so taking 3 strong pills or a .4 of very pure Mandy can be dangerous to A LOT of people. (You - and I - may have gotten away with this kind of debauchery because I am tall and weigh a bit... Also just always seemed to tolerate Ecstasy for some strange reason lol) I also loved 0.25-0.3g drops of super clean, lovely MD too! This was back around 2005/6ish. Triple dropped MDA swirls plenty of times also... Knocked me for six... proper spannered me HAHA good times. Viloent projectile vomiting and generally being a useless human rapidly ensued also! LOL This is NOT the case for many people.. this is in fact dangerous advice especially for a first dose. Taking more later when all of the cardio/temperature/water balance effects pretty much plateau out isn't nowhere near as bad... Still be careful! 3 of those MDA swirls to a small, thin girl would probably have resulted in ambulance being called. Same with doses of banging MD over 0.18 really. Please don't do this people. X
Also, 'new' MD is so much weaker per mg than the 'good' stuff. Not saying it ain't still out there... It defo is. Don't get caught with your pants down boshing .4 of MD because .25 ain't quite enough... Trust me, if you get the real stuff that's made properly.. .25 will have you mashed more than you've ever been in your life. Just be careful dude you're post worried me a bit. 🙂
I hate a yellow Lego last night, and I have to say it didn’t feel exactly like I was rolling. There definitely was some MDMA but it felt like I was on a huge dose of Adderall with like a light dose of MDMA. Which is pretty fucking annoying because here in Tampa this was a Mecca for Electronic music and the best ecstasy in the world. But for some reason all the end around 2005. I don’t know why!
Bang on mate. I'm an old timer also.. I'm also an analytical chemist. The real reason pills are so strong 220-300+ mg (and mandy is so weak - even though the purity is the highest its even been on average. Typically over 90%. Is due to the change in production methods put simply. There was a global shift from using pharmaceutically diverted PMK as a precursor to a new, perfectly legal to buy, unwatched by authorities, and solid in form at room temperature (so I guess easier to smuggle/not arose suspicions) PMK-Glycidate or a similar Glycidic ester of PMK. This gets around the law number AND it costs literally peanuts for kilogram quantities of the stuff. This is then put through a process known as Catalytic Hydrogenation typically using Platinum as the catalyst. (All publically available information - I am in no way involved in any of this /disclaimer.. 😀) This is a 2 part reaction done in the same reaction vessel (same pot basically) without any cleanup between the steps. I imagine the assumption made is that if they have done their calculations correctly then all of the Glycidate moiety will be cleaved off of the molecule leaving just PMK. This may well be the case.... so no problems so far (at least if they know WTF they're doing). What do you think happens to the Glycidate portion (in simple terms) that was stripped off of the PMK? Again, this is a 2 part reaction and they do not separate/cleanup/change vessels aka pots. Its still there! Present in solution. Point is this creates a byproduct (M-ALPHA-HMCA) that has a significantly higher binding affinity to SERT AND NA than MDMA. This causes a blockade effect, essentially meaning the MDMA can't do its job. (MDDMA from impure Methylamine has a similar blockade effect also) /science. Pills are 300mg now because what would be a strong dose producing the full effect at 120ish mg of real product... produces a barely weak, short lasting and disphoric effect with this new stuff. 300mg of real MDMA will absolutely spanner you! Trust me I've lived it xD. Has nobody noticed the new "stronger" ecstasy has little to no empathy, connection within or music enhancement. There is also a slight edginess to it and aswell as that it is money as FUCK. Literally makes me curl up in a ball in a silent room away from people by about the 2 hour mark. This stuff is absolute fucking garbage! E used to be the most FUN you could ever have with your clothes on.
MDMA + Speed is good for overnight/day parties since you stay up but i feel you. Ion like not being able to go to sleep when there's too much speed in the pill.
I took around 500mg the first time i tried it, i was so cooked up i clawed intensely at my leg through my pants but the trip itself was something to behold. The most i've ever done was 1,25g in about 6-7 hours. The day after that i had the feeling of wanting to end it all (no suprise there) i also ended up licking my lip so much it started bleeding (don't know why i did that but i did). That trip was honestly the best trip of my life i've done high dosages since but nothing compares to it.
Jesus christ man, and there was me thinking that taking 0.75g over 4/5 hours was bad... One moment I did feel like I was about to die, because the end of the room looked twice as far away and going "woah..... woah" trying to like... not die lol
he had good one ...i heard by sound when he breaks it ... harder the pill is for break means better quality ... good advice which he gave is always take just half if youre not familiar with them.
*video ends* instantly takes both pills
LMAO
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I wonder if Alcohol and cigarette Manufacturers feel responsible for the deaths of drinkers and smokers?..... No
Munthegun of course not
But they have regulations, restrictions, warning labels on pretty much everything from age, quality to advertising. Also the taxes generated are phenomenal which help pay for your schools, healthcare etc...
Yours is typical childish response from someone that is probably not responsible to even take recreational drugs.
cim888 you’ve basically just given a model argument for drugs being legalised
Charlie Dummer perfect response. you sir win this. cheers
Alcohol bottles state exactly how many units there are so you know how much alcohol you are consuming. As for cigarettes it's advertised on the boxes themselves that they are deadly, and anyway there isn't an exact cut off of a certain number of cigarettes that will kill you. I very much support the decriminalisation and regulation of drugs exactly so that things like these dangerously strong pills don't get accidentally taken and end up in death.
When he said ''Dutch government usually doesn't go after XTC users'' thousands of people booked their flight to Amsterdam hahaha XD
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I made the mistake to take a whole pill (180mg) for my very first time.
I had never touched any other substances other than alcohol and weed before.
Without being educated, I took the whole pill and after 1-2 hours of being full of energy,
I had to sit down and then all my muscles gave up on me.
My friends put headphones on my head and let me listen to PsyTrance (never heard that stuff before either).
And it was the most intense first trip you could imagine. I'm not sure if I was close to dying,
but I felt like I was, and I didn't care. It was as if I was flying through space, and I wasn't myself anymore.
I was the music.
Not sure if it's a good idea to start out with a higher dosis for your first time,
but in my case it was the most beautiful experience I ever had.
Blinata McBlyat my first pill was ca 220mg, and I redosed after some hours and took 1/2 of the same one. I went full ham for like 4 hours, it was a lot of fun. Luckylie my mdma comedown only lastet for the Day After it :) (Iam 16, but I educated myself a lot about it and took the risk on my own responsebillity)
Blinata McBlyat that's what's up what kind was it
Pink Diamond
my first experience i was 14, and i had 200mg. at first i took 100mg and waited around 30 minutes. i got the starting waves but they felt very weak and i didnt know it would get more intense so i took the rest of the 100mg. after around 20 minutes the 200mg hit me all at once and it was the most intense experience ive experienced but it was amazing
Damn haha reminds me of the time I took a full orange Tesla because the previous pills i had were bunk as hell, I decided why not go with a full one and that fucker sure delivered and it was a little too intense for my taste lol
Netherlands is the best country in the world
Legalize Psychedelics yes
Not really
Snap wel waar je vandaan komt, ik zou zelf zeggen Canada. Lekker groot, werkt hetzelfde.
Yes! I've been there like 20 times, and it is the best not because of drugs, but because of drugs!
Awesome country!
Legalize Psychedelics it’s nice cauz of drugs
But Dutch people are not
I fucking love the Dutch
Thanks
thx, i love me too xD
I love fucking the Dutch
ARandomUsernameForMe thanks
thank you
Had such a strong wave hit me,felt like I was dodging bullets in the matrix.
😂🤣😂🤣😂
This really makes perfect sense if you’ve taken E before lol
Nigga was dodging bullets n sweating bullets lol 😂
Back in the eighties and nineties, we always started off with half a pill in case the pills were really strong. If you just neck a pill without testing it first in such a way, you're downright stupid.
Exactly mate. That's what we did, half a pill initially then if only you needed it, half the other pill later on in the night. Most of the time your friend necked the other half, and the pills were purer and hence stronger then too, common sense please!!!
@@jammasterj13Eh what kind of raves did you go to? Sure I took a half first couple of time's, but soon ended up double dropping. I mean E only last's 2-3 hours...who want's to go home after only 3 hours and 1 dj set? It was called Hardcore for a reason. \m/
@@illbehaviour9785 i'm talking late 80s mid 90s, madchester dayz. Pills weren't cut with shite then, hence pills were stronger. It was only after i developed a tolerance that i took more than 1 pill, but by then the parties were over..Even in Ibiza i could get decent drugs back then..i wouldnt piss on ibiza now.. different generation differwnt drugs. The mj is the only drug thats got better. I loves ma ganja..
Those are the same days I'm talking about. well more early 90's for me. Before we had drug testing kit's or U tube to tell us how to be safe and pills cost 10-20 quid and 1 got you proper mashed. =)
@@illbehaviour9785 epic times 👍
PLEASE READ!!!
The recommended dosage you mentioned (1.5 × bodyweight in kg) only counts for male. Females should multiply their bodyweight by 1.2 in order to get the desired effect AND stay safe.
Ecstasy abuse put my brother into a deep psychosis in 2016 and unleashed a world of mental pain upon him. From a healthy person to spending nearly 15 months in and out of a psych ward an on a rigid mental health plan. I literally witnessed him change into a shell of a human being before my eyes - a broken person. Ecstasy destroyed my family and my brother, although your experiences may be much more different and pleasant. He took his life in June 2018. I expect hate for this comment, but I felt the need to share. Have fun, but understand the consequences. Eccies aren't natural for the body.
A D sorry for your loss, ecstasy is a drug not to fuck around with. If you use it wisely it can be alot of fun. I developed aortic regurgitation after a month of E abuse, some people just have to learn the hard way unfortunately.
@@Lalo-qj5ek oh fuck dude I looked up what aortic regurgitation is. How are you now do you still have aortic regurgitation?
Dawid Wieteska still have it bro, hard to do alot of things, its mild-moderate. Really wasnt worth the days high.
was he smoking weed too?
@@Lalo-qj5ek how do you got this? How much have you taken mdma and how often? Did you took some other drugs, too.
I'm very sorry it happened to you!
I was recently caught with a gram of ketamine on me by the police on a night out. I had to spend the night in jail and at the very least I get a caution which lasts 6 years. I think this was really stupid as when I was stopped and searched by the officers I was completely compliant and friendly. I did everything they asked and gave them no haslte yet I get in trouble where as I've seen loads of people on nights out who have drugs massive amounts of alcohol and are very aggressive and no compliant to the police. The war on drugs is so stupid.
Goire Garaat Don't carry a fucking gram of ketamine on you then
it was my 20th birthday bro, gotta party!
Ketamine though of all things not exactly a party drug is it
different drugs have different effect on people. I don't like coke because it makes me feel sluggish and droney. Weed makes me feel anxious. Ketmaine gives me a good vibe.
Goire Garaat What about alcohol? XD always good when done in consideration
Legit this guy has probs saved someone’s life
If it doesn't smell like licorice, it's either bunk, or it's synthetic, made in a lab. Not saying synthetic is worse than the real stuff, but I do believe there's a difference. I don't like that they are cutting down rainforest in search of the sas, and that's a big problem in my opinion, so I have mixed feelings on synthetic. I believe in all natural when I can. Been taking kratom for years for pain. Don't need addictive drugs made in a lab, when the leaf of a tree can produce the same results as a Percocet.
Bang on mate. I'm an old timer also.. I'm also an analytical chemist.
The real reason pills are so strong 220-300+ mg (and mandy is so weak - even though the purity is the highest its even been on average. Typically over 90%. Is due to the change in production methods put simply.
There was a global shift from using pharmaceutically diverted PMK as a precursor to a new, perfectly legal to buy, unwatched by authorities, and solid in form at room temperature (so I guess easier to smuggle/not arose suspicions) PMK-Glycidate or a similar Glycidic ester of PMK. This gets around the law number AND it costs literally peanuts for kilogram quantities of the stuff.
This is then put through a process known as Catalytic Hydrogenation typically using Platinum as the catalyst. (All publically available information - I am in no way involved in any of this /disclaimer.. 😀)
This is a 2 part reaction done in the same reaction vessel (same pot basically) without any cleanup between the steps. I imagine the assumption made is that if they have done their calculations correctly then all of the Glycidate moiety will be cleaved off of the molecule leaving just PMK. This may well be the case.... so no problems so far (at least if they know WTF they're doing).
What do you think happens to the Glycidate portion (in simple terms) that was stripped off of the PMK? Again, this is a 2 part reaction and they do not separate/cleanup/change vessels aka pots. Its still there! Present in solution.
Point is this creates a byproduct (M-ALPHA-HMCA) that has a significantly higher binding affinity to SERT AND NA than MDMA. This causes a blockade effect, essentially meaning the MDMA can't do its job. (MDDMA from impure Methylamine has a similar blockade effect also) /science.
Pills are 300mg now because what would be a strong dose producing the full effect at 120ish mg of real product... produces a barely weak, short lasting and disphoric effect with this new stuff. 300mg of real MDMA will absolutely spanner you! Trust me I've lived it xD.
Has nobody noticed the new "stronger" ecstasy has little to no empathy, connection within or music enhancement. There is also a slight edginess to it and aswell as that it is money as FUCK. Literally makes me curl up in a ball in a silent room away from people by about the 2 hour mark.
This stuff is absolute fucking garbage! E used to be the most FUN you could ever have with your clothes on.
@@pipesnnozzles7999 Best response I've ever gotten. You said it perfectly mate. Now I know it's not just me that can tell the difference between what's out there now, and those old school fat wafers that I started on in Simons nightclub in Gainsville Fl back in 95.😉
nothing about "How to handle strong ecstasy" in the vid mate. its more "raising awareness of existence of strong ecstasy", but that wouldn't be as catchy right & I wouldn't be here.
@michael p Because..like..its really hard to die or get hurt with mdma right?
I'm a pretty big guy (6'2", 240lbs), and for me 90 to maybe 110 miligrams is a high enough dose. I actually prefer taking lower doses, around 60mg. You are much more aware of the experience, and are still clear enough to do some painting, play a musical instrument, do some mathematics. I can't imagine taking 200+ miligrams in a single dose. There's no need for doses that large.
I did with a cup of marijuana tea and a tablet that keeps you up. Shit folded me like a napkin.
1. Drink allot of water
2. Don't fall asleep
3. Maintain you're eyes open
4. Drink water but not allot but stay hydrated
5. Maintain movement with you're body if you're heart is racing you have to move it wouldn't make sense if you're just laying there and then you have a stroke no duh obviously you're gonna get a stroke if you're hearts going fast and you're laying down with no movement you gotta mantain movement and hydration and don't be daft start with halves
"Never take a full pill at once" when he said that I laughed n thought about the time I dropped 2 pills n was sick in my mates bath n just sat there in it 😂😂😂😂
completely standard
Hahah yess
Doesn't sound fun
Lucky you threw up
Fuckk just had a flashback to when I dropped 2 270mg pills at once and damn near died 😂 good times
the time i took mdma without testing: i was home preparing to go to a party and took two pills as usual. i got so numb i “fell asleep” on my couch. around 2hrs later i suddenly opened my eyes wide open, was pale, shivering, sweat all over my hands knees and feet. my cat came closer and my vision was so damaged i could barely see his shape, he’s a white cat so when i touched him i saw how pale i was. that’s when i knew that if i didn’t do something, i’d die right there. i gathered the last energy i had, ran to the bathroom and forced myself to throw up, i was literally gonna die right then and there. please, always check the dosage of your pills.
This is old but, Sounds like you didn’t drink water lol
Double Barrel New Yorker was the strongest pill I ever took. This was the early 90’s. The dealer warned us “Just have them in halves, there strong as fuck” we all dropped a full one as usual and it knocked me and all my friends clean off our feet for a good hour!
Talk about touching the hand of God!
I've always been called weird for taking my pills half at a time and now I'm so glad it means I have a lesser chance of overdosing aha
I prefer to do half at the start off the day and then when i start coming down a bit i do the other half so im rolling for the whole day and dont have to deal with the comedown until the nextday
Seriously get better friends that’s not weird at all
Lara Kellam
Me too
It better be safe that way
1 pil in 3 days....pfff thats a waste of the pill
yea lol you cant be on mdma and still feel good for more than 8 hours or so let alone 3 days
8 hours ? bruh u never done it
Depends on how strong the pill is. A 350 mg or 400 mg pill could last you days if you need to :)
Rolling for 3 days? The comedowns would be horrible. Why do you even give people such ideas?
I dont know where you got that from but comedowns come from the low serotonin levels that are caused by mdma
Everyone says their pills are like 250-300mg even if theyre actually like 100mg so new users don’t really know how much that actually is. So that 150 will sound ridicilous even tho its already a high dose. This is also a problem cause when they actually get that 250mg pill they will eat it not knowing whats actually coming...
If you have a bit of a tolerance you can take a 150-250mg pill no problem, just dont do that if its your first time. As for the comedowns, I seriously dont understand what people are talking about, I take one 180mg pill a night for 4 days at a festival and I dont redose, in the morning im just tired, maybe a bit of a comedown, but its nothing a good 8h of sleep and vitamin c wont fix... Just dont do it more than once every month, I do it at 4-5 festivals a year and thats it...
Also you can check your pills with the database of this app: KnowDrugs
@@walidbel5352 lmao dont blame mdma for your own mistakes
Yea me neither,took a 220 orange tesla yesterday,had a good nights sleep and i feel totally fine.
Affects everybody differently
Knowdrugs is pretty limited from my experience. Pill reports is a great site, also ecstacy database.
Dusan I did 350 on my first go eyes were rolling all night tingling got so intense I had issue walking
They should name taking xtc playing Dutch roulette :)
Praaf Rams no they fucking shouldnt cause its not dangerous
@@_tony539 it can be dangerous if you abuse it or take like 2 3 pills ..
@Adolf Hitler only outside of the Netherlands the pills are shit, in the Netherlands its actually hard to find a pill without MDMA so testing isnt really a thing because the stuff here is good anyway. It's like buying coke in Colombia
back in the 90s me and wife would pop 3-4 pills when we club..well thats over 20 years ago..recently we did another trip..a huge pill last us the whole night..
Damn I took two points of molly Friday and it only lasted like 3 hours tops but it was wonderful feeling..just wished it lasted all night like yours lol
weranbutteroverthedeadbunny**throughVenus// I dropped 4 300 mg blue octopuses yesterday
@@drapermike redose is the key
@@joehollands299 Grow the fuck up. Like the guy said in the video, sad dudes like you make it a pill strength pissing contest. Really cringey.
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Love these videos! I've had so many questions that nobody really seemed to know the answers to. Thanks for clearing it up.
Thanks! And my pleasure!
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You'd be able to tell if a pill had 300mg because the pill will be triple stacked...
Also no dealer is just handing out 250/300mg pills for standard price, they let you know it's stronger than usual. They want you to *know* how strong it is they're not interested in surprising you or utterly fucking you over. They know what's good or bad for business, just saying.
Aye, but at parties drugs can be handed out left, right and center.
Information about said drugs can be lost.
Anyway, pills are old news.
MDMA crystal is what you want.
+The Philosopher
Don't take random pills at parties then...
I would never do that. Also you're right pills are old news. People really only do crystals these days.
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"300mg of powder is a very small amount.."
No it is not. Have you ever seen 300mg before of anything?
"plus most dealers want there e to be good anyways."
Well by "good" I kind of meant 'dangerously good' or maybe abnormally good is a better way to put it. My point is dealers tell you when the shit's stronger than usual.
In the netherlands a 250mg pill is around 4 euros
in the UK a gram of crystal MDMA is around 40quid
ive never heard of one being lower than 180mg in UK
true
Also, the ld 50 for mdma is well over a gram. So while taking a full pill with 350mg may result in an intense, uncomfortable, neurotoxic and serotonin depleting experience with severe depression for a month afterwards, it would not be fatal in most people. I wouldn't recommend taking a full Dutch pill, but I agree with the producers: people should educate themselves.
Just take pure m and something around 0,25-0,3 and you will be good.
I took a pill a couple of days ago that I was assured was the same strength as what I usually get... holy fuck it was strong I couldn't handle the come up and the peak was so intense
My ex girlfriend was an idiot because she said that you need to take 4 full pills before feeling anything.
I have never taken more than 1 pill in my life and i have rolled a fair amount of times but i still feel the same effects.
Also set & setting is pretty important.
Good point, great english! But most people 25years+ tell me that pills in the 95'-2008 were way stronger, or at least better quality ones, because if the dosage has increased in the last years, I guess that's not real mdma that we're taking...
peoples tolerance have gone up.
@Drazen Stefanovic Oh it's definitely mdma mate, just bashed with a lot of binding agents, amphetamines mainly. crystal is the way to go these days but still get a wicked buzz of an e
Bang on mate. I'm an old timer also.. I'm also an analytical chemist.
The real reason pills are so strong 220-300+ mg (and mandy is so weak - even though the purity is the highest its even been on average. Typically over 90%. Is due to the change in production methods put simply.
There was a global shift from using pharmaceutically diverted PMK as a precursor to a new, perfectly legal to buy, unwatched by authorities, and solid in form at room temperature (so I guess easier to smuggle/not arouse suspicions) PMK-Glycidate or a similar Glycidic ester of PMK. This gets around the law/customs easier (as PMK comes in barrels AFAIK) AND it costs literally peanuts for kilogram quantities of the stuff.
This is then put through a process known as Catalytic Hydrogenation typically using Platinum as the catalyst. (All publically available information - I am in no way involved in any of this /disclaimer.. 😀)
This is a 2 part reaction done in the same reaction vessel (same pot basically) without any cleanup between the steps. I imagine the assumption made is that if they have done their calculations correctly then all of the Glycidate moiety will be cleaved off of the molecule leaving just PMK. This may well be the case.... so no problems so far (at least if they know WTF they're doing).
What do you think happens to the Glycidate portion (in simple terms) that was stripped off of the PMK? Again, this is a 2 part reaction and they do not separate/cleanup/change vessels aka pots. Its still there! Present in solution.
Point is this creates a byproduct (M-ALPHA-HMCA) that has a significantly higher binding affinity to SERT AND NA than MDMA. This causes a blockade effect, essentially meaning the MDMA can't do its job. (MDDMA from impure Methylamine has a similar blockade effect also) /science.
Pills are 300mg now because what would be a strong dose producing the full effect at 120ish mg of real product... produces a barely weak, short lasting and dysphoric effect with this new stuff. 300mg of real MDMA will absolutely spanner you! Trust me I've lived it xD.
Has nobody noticed the new "stronger" ecstasy has little to no empathy, connection within or music enhancement. There is also a slight edginess to it and aswell as that it is mongy as FUCK. Literally makes me curl up in a ball in a silent room away from people by about the 2 hour mark.
This stuff is absolute fucking garbage! E used to be the most FUN you could ever have with your clothes on.
@@pipesnnozzles7999 Never expected someone would give me such a detailed, scientific explanation. I am convinced. I wonder if real MDMA is still being produced somewhere and if I have actually ever taken it. Perhaps the first E pills I took in 2014-2015...that would usually make me roll so hard and beautifully. Or perhaps that wasn't real MDMA either but I was just a virgin and were still experiencing the "magic" with those first few pills. (Even though everyone praises them as some of the best we've ever had in our country).
Any idea when this shift started happening? Are the dates I'm mentioning correct?
Around 2008ish.. by 2010 the Superpills came about. Everyone complained about them. I gave up taking Ecstasy.
The "KG (not pounds)" got me real good lmao
A lil' bit of education and information are always good! thanks Mr. ;)
When the pill is strong do ketamine when the pill is weak do more ketamine
ketamine is the absolute best =]
always do ketamine
Can someone explain why I should take ketamine? 😅🙈
@@erikschropfer2159 there's a lot of versatility with the drug and it's synergy with Molly and acid is out of this world. Personally it's my favorite drug with a lot of potential
Just watch you don’t fall down that big fucking hole!!!
my God.. the world has changed so much.. I am 30 now.. I occasionally consumed MDMA from the age of 16 to 21 (2006 - 2011) and at the time I never needed to think what's inside of each pill.. I always swallowed 2 pills at once for a start, and added third one after 2 hours.. Scheme always worked.. And now apparently it is dangerous even to swallow one pill at once :D :D :D
wtf 3 days one pill dont let me laugh 😂😂😂
It's because when you're young, it's all about showing off to your friends and showing how much you can "handle". They can't even imagine being 30 with 4 kids and trying to get by but it's so hard when your memory is shot and you have untreatable depression because you overdid it when you were 17...
My mate took 2 at once in 1995 and that was its he's been different person for 23 years
I'm not saying these newer higher dose pills since 2010 aren't strong they are but compared to what we had in 1989/1990 they are quite different, something has changed, I don't get that 6 hour dance urge anymore or break out into a wonderful all body sweat so much and the rushes seem to have tapered a bit. Back then 120mg was a high dose yet it done more than a double stack pill does now, some experts say it's the prevalence of the R isomer rather than the S isomer. Really need to find out exactly what's changed..yes I know that MDA was a part of the old school pills but it wasn't as common as many people think.
The substance hasn’t changed you have, it’s called developing a tolerance
Bang on mate. I'm an old timer also.. I'm also an analytical chemist.
The real reason pills are so strong 220-300+ mg (and mandy is so weak - even though the purity is the highest its even been on average. Typically over 90%. Is due to the change in production methods put simply.
There was a global shift from using pharmaceutically diverted PMK as a precursor to a new, perfectly legal to buy, unwatched by authorities, and solid in form at room temperature (so I guess easier to smuggle/not arose suspicions) PMK-Glycidate or a similar Glycidic ester of PMK. This gets around the law number AND it costs literally peanuts for kilogram quantities of the stuff.
This is then put through a process known as Catalytic Hydrogenation typically using Platinum as the catalyst. (All publically available information - I am in no way involved in any of this /disclaimer.. 😀)
This is a 2 part reaction done in the same reaction vessel (same pot basically) without any cleanup between the steps. I imagine the assumption made is that if they have done their calculations correctly then all of the Glycidate moiety will be cleaved off of the molecule leaving just PMK. This may well be the case.... so no problems so far (at least if they know WTF they're doing).
What do you think happens to the Glycidate portion (in simple terms) that was stripped off of the PMK? Again, this is a 2 part reaction and they do not separate/cleanup/change vessels aka pots. Its still there! Present in solution.
Point is this creates a byproduct (M-ALPHA-HMCA) that has a significantly higher binding affinity to SERT AND NA than MDMA. This causes a blockade effect, essentially meaning the MDMA can't do its job. (MDDMA from impure Methylamine has a similar blockade effect also) /science.
Pills are 300mg now because what would be a strong dose producing the full effect at 120ish mg of real product... produces a barely weak, short lasting and disphoric effect with this new stuff. 300mg of real MDMA will absolutely spanner you! Trust me I've lived it xD.
Has nobody noticed the new "stronger" ecstasy has little to no empathy, connection within or music enhancement. There is also a slight edginess to it and aswell as that it is money as FUCK. Literally makes me curl up in a ball in a silent room away from people by about the 2 hour mark.
This stuff is absolute fucking garbage! E used to be the most FUN you could ever have with your clothes on.
I think the pills are also higher dosed so you can smuggle more of the drugs in less space i guess
I did 3 and a half 220mgs ones during 6 hours not knowing it was 220 at first.(Also drank a shit ton of alcohol before i downed the pills) I´ve never felt better, no issues at all in the whole world.. Atleast that was the case during the night. When i tried to sleep i suddenly had paintings in my room, that was moving (I do not have any paintings) There was smoke or water running down the walls, shadows were moving and i could not stop hearing the music we had been blasting, (Psycadelic trance) 3 days after i triggered some sort of panic attack, and had to see a doctor to help me recover etc etc. This was about 5 months ago, i am still not fully recovered from the consequences i suffered. So yeah, do the pills with responsibility, order 5http pills they will help you recover, eat and drink alot of water the day after and before. Ofcourse drink water while your high aswell, but not to much! it´s easy to get paranoid and drink TOO much water. Happy safe raving:D
That's called psychosis my friend.
I've had MDMA mixed with LSD before, it's possible you weren't told about the psychedelic being added.
You mean 220mg worked 6 hours ?
Did around 4 pills in one night i wish 6 hours is better then 18
He is absolutely right. Also, never trust random dealers in the music festivals or parties. BTW it would be best to keep control of the damage you are causing to your brain and mind (especially with X OD). Stay safe.
I love the kick in of a high dose pill 😍💊💊
You a fein bruh lol
What a great source of info. Just subbed. I just wanted to add, it's not just about weight. That's a great way to go for most, though. But there is a thing called "metabolizer statuses." Basically broken down into 4 groups: the Ultrarapid Metabolizer (that's me, which means I need more of the drug to get the "normal" effect), the Extensive Metabolizer (that's normal and most common), the intermediate metabolizer where a normal dose is way to much, and the Poor Metabolizer who breaks down these "meds" very slowly. Without a gene test, it's hard to know which you are, so breaking shit up is the greatest advice. Thanks for the advice!
I remember I popped a orange and white q dance pill and I was bussin for 12 hours it was so intense!!
Just had a bean. Wound up throwing up but it was still pleasurable. This stuff us crazy
I remember ppl taking like 10 pills... the results u can see on oldskool rave vids around utube :)
+HybOj Yeah that must mean there was probably not much in them. Or they were like 50mg each...
Controlled Substance
yup I think the same, also such ppl usually have quite a big tolerance... this was never my cup of tea honestly, I was more into the results of research endeavor of Dr. Hoffman, one must really appraise his contribution to science :-)
exactly lol those guys in those videos look like me on 200mg
HybOj go hard or go home
my record was 24 at The Orbit in 2002
:D
Kicking arse and taking names on this channel. Keep it up.
Oh man that initial wave of “holy fuck I took too much” is so scary lol
Goin thru that now
Potency Desire in IV drugs is deduced by overdose. If users hear about someone overdosing they want to know how to get that batch. Overdose can be the Indicator for high potency or straight up poison...the difference is based in quantities used, tolerance and frequency of use, route of administration, and if theres other drugs onboard.
Be safe folks.
i've been doing it the right way since 14. Im from the future
In mijn tienerjaren ben ik echt gek geweest, en dat door onwetendheid. Op een keer had ik twaalf pillen en na twee uur had ik ze bijna allemaal op. Toen wist ik dit allemaal niet. Heb dikwijls geluk gehad denk ik. Gelukkig heb ik dat meer dan 15 jaar niet meer genomen... 🙏
Great video. i had to learn the hard way
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I used to take three at a time (triple drop) and keep one for later back in the early 2000's when ecstasy quality was on the decline, it was the best way of getting the full experience out of something that was most likely partially impure, even though I knew my dealer was reasonably good. It's better to just take a high dose of a single tablet than have to dangerously take three in one go. Back in the day of white doves one was enough for the entire night, the typical dose might be statistically low, but people desire a full high and that is only taken in strength.
I was the same way, in the early 2000’s I would take 3 at once because that was the amount that would get me rolling even though I had no idea what mg they were and got them from different people, also I weighed about 300 pounds back then, but I think now if the strong pills today if they were around in the mid to late 2000’s and I took 3 I’d be fucked
G’s up Hoes Down lol
I miss the good old days of disco biscuits.
Banged a blue punisher around 4pm and it’s currently 3:15am I’m not high anymore but I’m still tripping out a bit and on a come down. Would recommend tho amazing time
Last time I took a third of a half of a strong pill and I can say that was almost enough for me. I don't want to know what would have happened if I took the whole pill
Nothing, you'd just have a really bad comedown
i think the issue might also be misinformation. there are still weak pills going around but of course they are maladvertised with high doses. so if you start off with a pill thats said to contain 200mg (maybe acquired through not so reliable sellers on raves) and get a moderate effect, you wont buy a pill thats said to contain 120mg later, even though it might be the same amount but labelled correctly.
this is a good ass channel
What a nice and simple video, the way it should be. Easy to understand. Just got my subscribe!
don´t be daft, take half. simple
Has anyone ever took mdma and had 5 second memory loss? And has anyone ever blinked and then moved like 10ft in a instant?
Also this was 300mg of pure Crystal md
I recently took 3 ecstasy pills in less then 3 hours. I definitely remember peaking multiple times, and I was definitely sweating bullets. I was able to control myself and I felt a small amount of psychedelic to it (I characterized it as a 100ug trip, but I have always been a hard head when it comes to this stuff. Can anyone predict how many mg of mdma I actually took? I remember looking online and finding test results that said that the pill size was around 450mg and the ratio of mdma was 1. I don't know if this is believable though, cause 450mg is a fuck ton.
Also the whole entire trip was around 6-8 hours. The pills I took are blue fortnite CP
Idk most pills here(illegal) are said to be 240mg to 300mg wich is still a ton compared to netherlands standards
The site might have been referring to the weight of the whole pill being 450mg and not the dosage of md in it
Plot twist, he’s still high off that one pill for 4 years now.
U kno we popped it all wen the camera went off
Het is niet heel goed te zien, maar... Is dat Carl Sagan met een lightsaber in zijn hand, rijdend op een dinosaurus?!
+Neuro Kosmos Volgens mij wel! :D
Goed gezien, en inderdaad!
I know you probably won’t believe me but the most pure mdma I ingested in one night was an entire 3 grams at once of uncut rock (3000mg) I was young, dumb and just bought 10 grams of dutch mdma straight from the Netherlands on the dark web for 80 Aussie dollars, I wanted to see what tripping out on md was like as I was curious to push my understanding of the experience in high doses. Next thing yknow I’m sitting on my bedroom floor talking to the wall as though I am still at my checkout-counter serving customers at work. (Worked at Coles at the time) and am scanning invisible items preparing them for invisible customers, all the while chatting merrily to them like a happy worker, my little brother then walks in and snaps me out of it temporarily saying “who are u talking to” I then looked down at myself and remembered where I was, and responded with.. “ I think I took WAY too much md”
And that I did... but not without taking another 2 grams the following weekend which resulted in me violently shaking as though I was freezing cold but was dripping sweat and also had lockjaw, just sitting there on the couch looking insane. My youngest brother looked terrified but I was alright. Was good fun. The week after that i had just 1 gram swallowed at once with a tab of lsd, I was playing with my visuals if that makes sense, as in hand up toying with my visuals as they moved around. Good stuff ay? You think that’s a lot of drugs? Wait till you hear me speak out my old benzo habit 🙏 does 38 2mg bricks with half a litre of rum sound appealing? You tell me
4:18 lmao i fkn died
Great video ! So many people take too much of these. It also has very bad effects on the long terms, i have seen a small girl eat 4 pills that i knew half a pill was enough for most, and feel very little effect ! I'm pretty sure she abused it and grew used to it or she took too many not long ago and her brain didn't get time to produce the serotonin again
ps: i love how he clearly is used to breaking the pill into smaller pieces... says a lot lol
I really like your videos, but at that part where you say that one strong pill can last for multiple days, you should have added that nobody should ever take MDMA for a few consecutive days.
You're right, that's a good addition. Spreading it out can be of little use and might bring you down for the second half of the week.
(Although one pill spread out over two or three days probably won't be the end of you. It's just not a great experience, like drinking so much that it makes you sick.)
Very good analogies, well made video.
C: People of this generation just wanna get way higher
When people are educated, they can be safe. This channel does a great job education wise. Make sure you're careful when taking anything is the best advice though.
great video
Wow! Been looking at your videos and the quality and information is incredible! Keep it up :^)
+Controlled Substance, Absolutely wonderful channel you're running here. I think all of us would agree that you're doing some seriously important, yet seriously *undervalued* work for the world. I have a question, if you'd grace me with your response: What do you think about dark net mdma? Really considering it, since the domestic US market is so unreliable.
Ryan Bergen darknet is great. :)
will there is someone you can trust lmao
lmaoooo i liked just for that silence at the ending with the head nod
OMFW - everyone just stop. ✋🏼
It’s a very subjective thing bcuz some will want a different desired dosage and therefore different desired effect. Some will want to just #Microdose And Others Will Want To Be Borderline Hospitalized - so again ... it’s very subjective & a personal thing ‼️M-Kay⁉️
Well, but strong is still strong - the consume intentions may differ, like you said, but that doesn´t mean there´s not an objective strenght of the pill.
I’ve always wondered what the “desired result” is. The more you take it appears to give more stimulation, but is there a peak to the “magic”? Once ur where you want to be do you know?
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I quited xtc because i hate the day afters........
It depends how you do it mate.
witches' reall thats true i only used the pills... i think speed/mdma
witches' reall nah the side effects are the same regardless the way you do it
I quited xtc long time ago as I find the experience has a limit and doesn’t go further
I only do mashrooms acid and weed
LOS Locos never tried acid before how was the experince?
Sebas Alink if you haven’t try psychedelics is almost impossible to put this experience in words
It’s like trying to describe colors to a blind man
The experience is profound and you learn a lot about yourself and the nature of reality
It gives you the possibility to see things from a different perspective
A new point of view, a new angle
Ego dissolving experience
Everything you think you know could be wrong
I suggest it
im 85kg and dosage lower than 180mg for me is fine, but what I call it : it doesnt break the shell. 200mg - I WILL RAVE TO THE END OF THE WORLD WITH MY FRIENDS, AND IT NEVER STOPS AT ONE. I always say days later that I shouldn't, but these nights also always deliver magic nights with lots of memories to remember to the end of my life... I am pretty sure there are lots of people who understand my statement. :) Have fun guys and always use your head first.
I love popping 200 MG"s pills :D
same but like 3 of em
Love the redbull one (i live in greece) we also take the half one and the other half when we feel like but more because we just feel like it lasts more like that than just taking it all and having strong high and then just leave you down.. even tho it makes me feel depressed some times when the effect leaves the body i love it
Easy, dont take ecstasy. i have bad anxiety and mental disorders from taking ecstasy too much in highschool.
Elliott Johnson
Easy, don't take Ecstasy as an ignorant, underaged idiot, don't tell me what to do when I'm 27 and able to take responsibilities for my actions.
how you overdone it tells more about you than the drug
So because you took too much you're going to tell people not to do it at all? Not surprised you overdid it with logic like that
Hahah end of the video is awesomr :) thanks for making this!
As far as I was aware, 500mg - 1 gram is the danger (lethal) zone (taken all at once), my best experiences using MDMA was when I took 250 - 300mg of pure MDMA crushed up and swallowed inside a rizzla, and I never took any less than 0.25 grams because otherwise I had a shit time, a good time on MDMA to me is when you can't control your facial expressions, you're hugging the grass literally, you melt into the sofa and feel the best experience of your life, me and my mates were so fucked that one time all 4 of us sat outside in the kids park BUTT NAKED at 3am, the standard for me now is I always take at least 0.4g... I never take exctasy pills because they're so weak and contain other stiumulants... Seriously people, you're missing out on the true MDMA experience... Warning: Only take large doses of MDMA with those you love and could share anything with and people you trust because it will put you in a very vulnerable state.
Shorter version:
Pills = Bad, weak, mixed
Pure MDMA = Take 0.25g-0.4g for the best experience of your life
How much did you weigh when you did this?
Sorry man.. not intended as a personal attack but this is bad advice to put out there as a generalisation.
I have also taken enormous quantites of Mandy/pills back in my 20s... It's not so much the amount over the night taken... But the initial dose.
As with mdxx, rapid tachyphylaxis kicks in within an hour or so.. so taking 3 strong pills or a .4 of very pure Mandy can be dangerous to A LOT of people. (You - and I - may have gotten away with this kind of debauchery because I am tall and weigh a bit... Also just always seemed to tolerate Ecstasy for some strange reason lol)
I also loved 0.25-0.3g drops of super clean, lovely MD too! This was back around 2005/6ish. Triple dropped MDA swirls plenty of times also... Knocked me for six... proper spannered me HAHA good times. Viloent projectile vomiting and generally being a useless human rapidly ensued also! LOL
This is NOT the case for many people.. this is in fact dangerous advice especially for a first dose. Taking more later when all of the cardio/temperature/water balance effects pretty much plateau out isn't nowhere near as bad... Still be careful!
3 of those MDA swirls to a small, thin girl would probably have resulted in ambulance being called. Same with doses of banging MD over 0.18 really.
Please don't do this people. X
Also, 'new' MD is so much weaker per mg than the 'good' stuff. Not saying it ain't still out there... It defo is.
Don't get caught with your pants down boshing .4 of MD because .25 ain't quite enough... Trust me, if you get the real stuff that's made properly.. .25 will have you mashed more than you've ever been in your life.
Just be careful dude you're post worried me a bit.
🙂
In the Netherlands we take a half pil the normal pil is here 220/240
Halbe Dinger rollen nicht :D
Amazing video. Thank you.
1 pill for three days? its more like 4 for the night xD
Honestly, in the Uk we have 250mg as quite standard pills.
It's called tolerance, that why they're stronger these day
Superb! Educated, witty-yet-dry, cool, concise . . . why can't all TH-cam videos be presented by the Dutch? Thanks!
Thanks I'm 10 but I'm smart for my age thanks I want to do extaseys now thanks 2 u
LMAO
Pass Da Bleach good to do meditation as well
I hate a yellow Lego last night, and I have to say it didn’t feel exactly like I was rolling. There definitely was some MDMA but it felt like I was on a huge dose of Adderall with like a light dose of MDMA. Which is pretty fucking annoying because here in Tampa this was a Mecca for Electronic music and the best ecstasy in the world. But for some reason all the end around 2005. I don’t know why!
Bang on mate. I'm an old timer also.. I'm also an analytical chemist.
The real reason pills are so strong 220-300+ mg (and mandy is so weak - even though the purity is the highest its even been on average. Typically over 90%. Is due to the change in production methods put simply.
There was a global shift from using pharmaceutically diverted PMK as a precursor to a new, perfectly legal to buy, unwatched by authorities, and solid in form at room temperature (so I guess easier to smuggle/not arose suspicions) PMK-Glycidate or a similar Glycidic ester of PMK. This gets around the law number AND it costs literally peanuts for kilogram quantities of the stuff.
This is then put through a process known as Catalytic Hydrogenation typically using Platinum as the catalyst. (All publically available information - I am in no way involved in any of this /disclaimer.. 😀)
This is a 2 part reaction done in the same reaction vessel (same pot basically) without any cleanup between the steps. I imagine the assumption made is that if they have done their calculations correctly then all of the Glycidate moiety will be cleaved off of the molecule leaving just PMK. This may well be the case.... so no problems so far (at least if they know WTF they're doing).
What do you think happens to the Glycidate portion (in simple terms) that was stripped off of the PMK? Again, this is a 2 part reaction and they do not separate/cleanup/change vessels aka pots. Its still there! Present in solution.
Point is this creates a byproduct (M-ALPHA-HMCA) that has a significantly higher binding affinity to SERT AND NA than MDMA. This causes a blockade effect, essentially meaning the MDMA can't do its job. (MDDMA from impure Methylamine has a similar blockade effect also) /science.
Pills are 300mg now because what would be a strong dose producing the full effect at 120ish mg of real product... produces a barely weak, short lasting and disphoric effect with this new stuff. 300mg of real MDMA will absolutely spanner you! Trust me I've lived it xD.
Has nobody noticed the new "stronger" ecstasy has little to no empathy, connection within or music enhancement. There is also a slight edginess to it and aswell as that it is money as FUCK. Literally makes me curl up in a ball in a silent room away from people by about the 2 hour mark.
This stuff is absolute fucking garbage! E used to be the most FUN you could ever have with your clothes on.
You are so lucky, here they are so bad quality and loads of speed in them. I hate speed.
MDMA + Speed is good for overnight/day parties since you stay up but i feel you. Ion like not being able to go to sleep when there's too much speed in the pill.
I took around 500mg the first time i tried it, i was so cooked up i clawed intensely at my leg through my pants but the trip itself was something to behold. The most i've ever done was 1,25g in about 6-7 hours. The day after that i had the feeling of wanting to end it all (no suprise there) i also ended up licking my lip so much it started bleeding (don't know why i did that but i did). That trip was honestly the best trip of my life i've done high dosages since but nothing compares to it.
Jesus christ man, and there was me thinking that taking 0.75g over 4/5 hours was bad... One moment I did feel like I was about to die, because the end of the room looked twice as far away and going "woah..... woah" trying to like... not die lol
500mg is only half a gram so you essentially took 250mg more than me lol
btw theres a guy called psyched substance with alot more subs, just so you know
+BUGSY - Overwatch Clips Yeah I know. We started around the same time, but he was more active from the start.
okay
Rick F he is not. he‘s amazing.
he had good one ...i heard by sound when he breaks it ... harder the pill is for break means better quality ... good advice which he gave is always take just half if youre not familiar with them.