From one mechanic to another...constructive criticism...you can actually talk while doing this to help clarify things that you do for people less skilled making the attempt
correct...you just throw out the old one.and you replace with the new 18 ml ..its enough to expand it and work properly.but check for moisture inside or rust and clean it very well
COMPRE LA SILICONA EN TIENDAS TOYOTAS SON ORIGINALES..PERO SERIA BUENO QUE REALICES OTRO VIDEO EXPLICANDO QUE CANTIDAD SE RELLENA ESO ES MUY IMPORTANTE PARA TODOS TUS SEGUIDORES....SALUDOS...
Small tip, unrelated to the clutch fix. Never thread a screw, specially in aluminium, with a powertool. Put the first couple turns by hand or screwdriver. You risk ruining the thread before you notice it went in crooked if you use a powertool.
You are correct .but I share a deeper tip.before I use the powertool all the times I "wake up" the bolt with a Philips screwdriver or a flat and a hammer by applying some vertical and steady hits it doesn't matter aluminum or not.i face all the bolts like I will do not have other chance.one and only .this tip unscrew 99.9% of the bolts without destroy the head
when the years passed , the silicone oil evaporated (small quantity),or mixed with rust from water when the O-ring dont isolate around..so..the result is not to engage the fan.. the cost of all this to replace is 500 euro about..but you can replace only the oil with 8 euro.. another reason which make the fan not to work properly is that the bi-metallic spring in front of.. coming too old (cause of the temperature) so dont respond with reliability..(this a suggestion from toyota manual)
Why did you add to the disk and not into the reservoir? How did you know how much this clutch needs? I fear you severely underfilled it... Most people are adding it to the reservoir, then you can know when you have added enough... [must have space equal to the 'center' hole volume...]
yes..i wipe out all the old remaining oil with rust and i replaced with a new one..the old oil is not had the correct viscocity after all these years..also was mixes with drops of water
I bought 12.500cst silicone oil from RC cars. In Brazil toyota doesnt sells the OEM silicone oil. The oem toyota silicone comes in to versions: 3000cst for cold countries and 10.000cst for hotter ones. Brazil is a little hotter than average, so i put the 12500cst oil.
you all prolly dont care but does anyone know a trick to log back into an Instagram account..? I stupidly lost the login password. I appreciate any tips you can offer me!
@Bowen Marco i really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process atm. Seems to take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
A mechanic recently installed 7 tubes of silicone oil into the engine fan of my Toyota Fortuner 2013 series. After that, the engine has produced a loud noise, particularly when I stepped on the gas pedal when driving. Is it possible that the loud noise of the engine was caused by adding too much silicone oil into the engine fan?
Monching Balindong stupid engineer.not more than 2 tubes of the original.the more silicone oil will increase the volume of the liquid inside so the system will be always enganged so the noise you listen is because the fan is always enganged to engine.the liquid inside must have free space to increase and decrease the volume according to the relevant temperature that received
Monching Balindong of course its a common sense that always follow the guidelines of the maker.i.e. if for your fan needs 7 tubes and you refill witj 7 tubes this is correct.but if recommends 2 and put 7 this is not engineering and not common sense
o.k since you ask for epicheirima here is one.You changed the silicone oil but in case you had to readjust the the temperture of the clutch do you know how to do it? And before you say anything more i repair them and test them on testing machine,not just change the silicone oil.Best regards from sunny Greece!!!
this is not an epicheirima dear Jordan.is the way that you want to see the things.if toyota in japan had in her mind to readjust temp or test them after 2-5-10 years or 10.000 running hours in a special testing device will provide this special device to the special shops with her name , and would give the written info to the maker's manual for follow the instruction by her specialist's engineers.instead of this ,gave only the part number for the silicone oil.this means in other words that after 8 years of RnD in japan (1988-1996) before the specific model goes in production line (calculating factors as aging of material )and all the appropriate tests she will know better than anybody if this mechanism needs to be repaired/readjusted in another way than replaced the silicon oil, then will apply this special info to her shops worldwide .if finally this special device not existed in 1990 era in japan and discovered after 10-20 years ,toyota will sure send one additional guideline worldwide about how to use this special device her specialists and for readjust this mechanism.also is not work as an epicheirima the "philosophy" all the coupling funs are same and working in same procedure.toyota not construct coupling funs but buy them from a company that probably sells to other car industries.but every specific model have specs than not meet to another model.(i.e as in thermostat's surface is written 80-82 C ,would written also to alu surface of fun the temp for readjust...)and the result/evidence of the above is that japan is where is it now..to the top of the world in tecnology and greece is where is it now..but Greeks are always smarter than all the others and they know better from all the others and overide the makers.. now if somebody like you , knows better than toyota about her parts then is not difficult to send an email to toyota corporation in japan and ask them to hire you as a consultant advisor to similar matters.iam sure they will appreciate it and maybe one headmaster's chair is there already waiting for you.sincerely yours.
+chrislcful im using the motor in a totally diffy way as to how it came out of the factory you speak of I've changed chassis. all the cooling piping. the radiator. and have also fitted a turbo so the motor is nothing like what came from the factory and i want the fan to come in a little earlier
Nathan your motor is 5vzfe ?if so, i suggest to you to install an electric fan. many did this option.there is no problem during dives in water ,and you can adjust from the sensor in how many mA wants to start or stop the fan.additionally you can install a second bypass switch so you can start or stop anytime you wish.and of course you will not lost some Hp from the crankshaft.but generally ,when you make a project like this you made needs a complete study from an engineer of university and not opinions from vulcanizater-men.needs to pay an engineer to take measurements before make the study for you have the perfect result.do not hesitate to ask anything you want.
there are 2 kinds of hydraulic silicone oils .with different viscocity.the most safe way is to buy the original that costs only 7-10 US$ .the secondary way is to buy the genuine and send it to the laboratory for chemical analysis.all the other ways "by eye" ,"by smell" ,"by feeling between your fingers " or using words such as "is similar to.." is for "technicians that do not know how to boil an egg.
Great video, anyone know how much viscous fluid to put in a 2.5 MN Triton diesel fan clutch -4D56 motor? I can't find any info but a Pajero takes 32 mil so I think I will add the same amount in the Triton clutch
You will remove the old fluid and clean thoroughly , and after you refill the half shell and you will install the other half shell.and that's it. the fluid will expand every time that reach the temperature and will engange the system.
thanks @chrislcful, but finaly I used silicone oil for rc toys cars, viscosity 10000 cst. This is the same like Toyota Oil, for the same price of 18 ml from Toyota I bought 120 ml from toys shop. It's ridiculous.
My car is shaking all the times more or less, and I think, the visco fan is the problem... We changed clutch, dual mass flywheel and 80% of shaking is gone, but still do that... What do you think??...
Electric fan can be fitted there I'm sure someone out there has modified this fan to work just like the car starter and the engine how can there be a mini starter type of thing be used to engage the fan when there is a need to cool the radiator
Este ventilador de acoplamiento contiene un aceite de silicona de toyota (el ventilador es de land cruiser serie 90). El código de número de serie de este producto se escribe en comentarios anteriores.
В вискомуфтах используется демпферное силиконовое масло - полиметилсилоксан ПМС 10000. Это масло увеличивается в объеме при нагревании, а так же у него повышается коэффициент вязкости при движении молекул (при перемешивании масла). Поэтому все вискомуфты вентилятора охлаждения заполняются маслом на две трети.
if you read th ecomments my friend, you will buy only the genuine from toyota with the given code.. alternative you must buy the original silicone and you will go to the laboratory. You will take also some aftermarkets silicones and you will make also chemical analysis to the laboratory. when you will find an aftermarket silicone that has the same specifications with the original then you can go..and buy this aftermarket silicone
My Car is a Toyota Fortuner Automatic 2012 Diesel, a mechanic refills oil silicone with 4 tubes!!! wtf! and what happens next was the engine is too loud, sounds like it was always angry, i cant hear the turbo whistle anymore, i dont know what to do, i talk to different mechanics already.
Chris, on a 100 series v8 4.7ltr petrol fan clutch. will 3x18ml of oil be enough? i managed to get the oil from my toyota dealer but unsure on the amount to use.
iam sorry for the delay of reply...really apologize..and of course you will solve the problem but only for the records ..the answer is .you refill until this coming almost full.not overflow..if its possible you remove the old silicone oil
this is a special silicone oil that use toyota for hydraulic clutches like this in video. the code number you can see to the video and to the first comment (08816-03001 ) .Toyota dealer is the supplier.If you do not know the viscocity of the original do not take the risk to put something similar.
AMIGO, PARA UN FAN CLUTCH, DE UNA FORD F-150, QUE TIPO DE ACEITE DE SILICON Y LA CANTIDAD QUE DEBE LLEVAR, SI TIENES ALGUN MANUAL DE REPARACIÓN PARA EL FAN, TE AGRADECERÍA ME LO PROPORCIONARAS, MI CORREO ES mirey_marg@hotmail.com.
Специальное предложение для автомастерских занимающихся ремонтом и восстановлением вискомуфт от ООО «ПКН-Секвойя» ПМС-10000 (Полиметилсилоксановая жидкость), для вискомуфты. pkns.ru/
А где разъяснение выполняемых работ? Сколько геля заливается в муфту? Есть же вариант - просто долить гель,не вскрывая муфту. Ведь она перестаёт работать именно от не хватки геля в муфте! Ролик ни о чём!
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From one mechanic to another...constructive criticism...you can actually talk while doing this to help clarify things that you do for people less skilled making the attempt
correct...you just throw out the old one.and you replace with the new 18 ml ..its enough to expand it and work properly.but check for moisture inside or rust and clean it very well
COMPRE LA SILICONA EN TIENDAS TOYOTAS SON ORIGINALES..PERO SERIA BUENO QUE REALICES OTRO VIDEO EXPLICANDO QUE CANTIDAD SE RELLENA ESO ES MUY IMPORTANTE PARA TODOS TUS SEGUIDORES....SALUDOS...
Small tip, unrelated to the clutch fix. Never thread a screw, specially in aluminium, with a powertool.
Put the first couple turns by hand or screwdriver.
You risk ruining the thread before you notice it went in crooked if you use a powertool.
You are correct .but I share a deeper tip.before I use the powertool all the times I "wake up" the bolt with a Philips screwdriver or a flat and a hammer by applying some vertical and steady hits it doesn't matter aluminum or not.i face all the bolts like I will do not have other chance.one and only .this tip unscrew 99.9% of the bolts without destroy the head
you just saved me 500usd for a replacement viscous clutch!!! thank u.
so this refill can fix LOUD fan sound ?
when the years passed , the silicone oil evaporated (small quantity),or mixed with rust from water when the O-ring dont isolate around..so..the result is not to engage the fan..
the cost of all this to replace is 500 euro about..but you can replace only the oil with 8 euro..
another reason which make the fan not to work properly is that the bi-metallic spring in front of.. coming too old (cause of the temperature) so dont respond with reliability..(this a suggestion from toyota manual)
Do you have a part number for the spring??
@@lukeneave if you mean the bimetal spring.No.Toyota gives all the mechanism complete as whole system .
Evaporated? The housing looks greasy on the outside. Did you replace the seal?
Why did you add to the disk and not into the reservoir?
How did you know how much this clutch needs?
I fear you severely underfilled it...
Most people are adding it to the reservoir, then you can know when you have added enough...
[must have space equal to the 'center' hole volume...]
the toyota code for oil silicone is 08816-03001
A good viscous coupling should stop rotating as soon as the engine stops, provided that the engine coolant has reached operating temperature.
So do you remove all the old oil and replace it or do you top it up ?
yes..i wipe out all the old remaining oil with rust and i replaced with a new one..the old oil is not had the correct viscocity after all these years..also was mixes with drops of water
Was advised that you can use remote control car suspension oil, it's the same stuff
How many bolts do you undo to remove the fan?
no it's not, and it's not any savings over just buying the real Toyota stuff.
I bought 12.500cst silicone oil from RC cars. In Brazil toyota doesnt sells the OEM silicone oil. The oem toyota silicone comes in to versions: 3000cst for cold countries and 10.000cst for hotter ones. Brazil is a little hotter than average, so i put the 12500cst oil.
Gracias es el mejor video que e visto solo que no pones la cantidad de silicona que se debe de poner.
Buenas que cantidad se debe poner gracias un saludo 👋😉
how much mililitre ? only 1 bottle ?
glad i found this video,my 99 toyota hi ace needs a new clutch fan its not un locking,changing it seems a whole lot easier now!
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I stupidly lost the login password. I appreciate any tips you can offer me!
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@Bowen Marco i really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and im in the hacking process atm.
Seems to take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
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Thank you so much you really help me out !
@Niko Aldo glad I could help =)
all the quantity...but you must cover the holes with the liquid.if you have leakage from the o-ring maybe you lost more but this is very rare
An the million dollar question is!
how do we know how much oil takes??
estrelladelnorte1308 about 2 or 3 08816-10001 i think
To me when you put to much engine sounds funny
18 ml
Fill it up the half metal part until its full. But keep the cover dry. In mine I used 60ml.
Que tipo de aceite utiliza
A mechanic recently installed 7 tubes of silicone oil into the engine fan of my Toyota Fortuner 2013 series. After that, the engine has produced a loud noise, particularly when I stepped on the gas pedal when driving. Is it possible that the loud noise of the engine was caused by adding too much silicone oil into the engine fan?
Monching Balindong stupid engineer.not more than 2 tubes of the original.the more silicone oil will increase the volume of the liquid inside so the system will be always enganged so the noise you listen is because the fan is always enganged to engine.the liquid inside must have free space to increase and decrease the volume according to the relevant temperature that received
@@chrislcful thanks for the info. Perhaps, i'll just have it corrected.
Monching Balindong of course its a common sense that always follow the guidelines of the maker.i.e. if for your fan needs 7 tubes and you refill witj 7 tubes this is correct.but if recommends 2 and put 7 this is not engineering and not common sense
@@chrislcful ther can not get 7 tubes inside...
yes for sure
o.k since you ask for epicheirima here is one.You changed the silicone oil but in case you had to readjust the the temperture of the clutch do you know how to do it?
And before you say anything more i repair them and test them on testing machine,not just change the silicone oil.Best regards from sunny Greece!!!
gday Jordan can you tell me how to adjust the temp of the fan i have a offroad buggy and want to lower the temp that the fan kicks in at
this is not an epicheirima dear Jordan.is the way that you want to see the things.if toyota in japan had in her mind to readjust temp or test them after 2-5-10 years or 10.000 running hours in a special testing device will provide this special device to the special shops with her name , and would give the written info to the maker's manual for follow the instruction by her specialist's engineers.instead of this ,gave only the part number for the silicone oil.this means in other words that after 8 years of RnD in japan (1988-1996) before the specific model goes in production line (calculating factors as aging of material )and all the appropriate tests she will know better than anybody if this mechanism needs to be repaired/readjusted in another way than replaced the silicon oil, then will apply this special info to her shops worldwide .if finally this special device not existed in 1990 era in japan and discovered after 10-20 years ,toyota will sure send one additional guideline worldwide about how to use this special device her specialists and for readjust this mechanism.also is not work as an epicheirima the "philosophy" all the coupling funs are same and working in same procedure.toyota not construct coupling funs but buy them from a company that probably sells to other car industries.but every specific model have specs than not meet to another model.(i.e as in thermostat's surface is written 80-82 C ,would written also to alu surface of fun the temp for readjust...)and the result/evidence of the above is that japan is where is it now..to the top of the world in tecnology and greece is where is it now..but Greeks are always smarter than all the others and they know better from all the others and overide the makers.. now if somebody like you , knows better than toyota about her parts then is not difficult to send an email to toyota corporation in japan and ask them to hire you as a consultant advisor to similar matters.iam sure they will appreciate it and maybe one headmaster's chair is there already waiting for you.sincerely yours.
+chrislcful im using the motor in a totally diffy way as to how it came out of the factory you speak of I've changed chassis. all the cooling piping. the radiator. and have also fitted a turbo so the motor is nothing like what came from the factory and i want the fan to come in a little earlier
Nathan your motor is 5vzfe ?if so, i suggest to you to install an electric fan. many did this option.there is no problem during dives in water ,and you can adjust from the sensor in how many mA wants to start or stop the fan.additionally you can install a second bypass switch so you can start or stop anytime you wish.and of course you will not lost some Hp from the crankshaft.but generally ,when you make a project like this you made needs a complete study from an engineer of university and not opinions from vulcanizater-men.needs to pay an engineer to take measurements before make the study for you have the perfect result.do not hesitate to ask anything you want.
Do you have any specifications on the silicone oil you are using?
there are 2 kinds of hydraulic silicone oils .with different viscocity.the most safe way is to buy the original that costs only 7-10 US$ .the secondary way is to buy the genuine and send it to the laboratory for chemical analysis.all the other ways "by eye" ,"by smell" ,"by feeling between your fingers " or using words such as "is similar to.." is for "technicians that do not know how to boil an egg.
I'll probably end up installing electric fans but thanks anyway.
It's 10 000 cSt silicone oil (polymethylsiloxane fluide). Some cars use 3 000 cSt oil - I guess, ones with less power engines.
Great video, anyone know how much viscous fluid to put in a 2.5 MN Triton diesel fan clutch -4D56 motor?
I can't find any info but a Pajero takes 32 mil so I think I will add the same amount in the Triton clutch
You will remove the old fluid and clean thoroughly , and after you refill the half shell and you will install the other half shell.and that's it. the fluid will expand every time that reach the temperature and will engange the system.
thanks @chrislcful, but finaly I used silicone oil for rc toys cars, viscosity 10000 cst. This is the same like Toyota Oil, for the same price of 18 ml from Toyota I bought 120 ml from toys shop. It's ridiculous.
Clever.
ماهو نوع الزيت?
nice engine sound, what it is?
5 vz-fe 3.4 ltr gasoline
que producto señe echa can do se pierde el liquidoi y como se yama
Silicon oil ye kha se milegq
My car is shaking all the times more or less, and I think, the visco fan is the problem...
We changed clutch, dual mass flywheel and 80% of shaking is gone, but still do that...
What do you think??...
Harmonic balancer or misfiring I don’t think the fan would make the car shake
I need to order the oil and would like to know where,how etc. Thank you, R.Mahabir. Live in suriname -south america.
Go to your Toyota dealer. $11 tube in australia
Electric fan can be fitted there I'm sure someone out there has modified this fan to work just like the car starter and the engine how can there be a mini starter type of thing be used to engage the fan when there is a need to cool the radiator
buens que producto se le hecha cuando pierde el liquido
Este ventilador de acoplamiento contiene un aceite de silicona de toyota (el ventilador es de land cruiser serie 90). El código de número de serie de este producto se escribe en comentarios anteriores.
Cuántos ml de aceite siliconado debe llevar?
How much are you supposed to put in it ? Just 18ml ?
نوع الزيت
I watched a manufacturers video and he says there not supose to spin till rad heats bimetal coil at front
Porque los de las f150 estan sellados?
PA que compres la parte
А скоко нужно жидкости в полностью отмытую муфту?
В вискомуфтах используется демпферное силиконовое масло - полиметилсилоксан ПМС 10000. Это масло увеличивается в объеме при нагревании, а так же у него повышается коэффициент вязкости при движении молекул (при перемешивании масла). Поэтому все вискомуфты вентилятора охлаждения заполняются маслом на две трети.
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Silicon oil name / brand/grade & which silicon oil available on online in India
if you read th ecomments my friend, you will buy only the genuine from toyota with the given code.. alternative you must buy the original silicone and you will go to the laboratory. You will take also some aftermarkets silicones and you will make also chemical analysis to the laboratory. when you will find an aftermarket silicone that has the same specifications with the original then you can go..and buy this aftermarket silicone
hi, what viscosity should I use? 10000, 20000?
Hi! It's 10 000 cSt.
@@СеменНакойхер ложь , вязкость намного меньше , при 10тыс она всегда в полную дурь крутить будет .
@@bez_be В "полную дурь" - при переливе, и независимо от вязкости. 10 000сСт идет с завода.
My Car is a Toyota Fortuner Automatic 2012 Diesel, a mechanic refills oil silicone with 4 tubes!!! wtf! and what happens next was the engine is too loud, sounds like it was always angry, i cant hear the turbo whistle anymore, i dont know what to do, i talk to different mechanics already.
he has put more oil then required i guess try changing a clutch !
mantul bosqu sukses dan di berikan kelancaran.saling membatu mampir ya bos kasih dukungannyA
Great job @chrislcful.
what is name of that oil ?
Viscous clutch Silicone oil from your Toyota dealer
Chris, on a 100 series v8 4.7ltr petrol fan clutch. will 3x18ml of oil be enough? i managed to get the oil from my toyota dealer but unsure on the amount to use.
iam sorry for the delay of reply...really apologize..and of course you will solve the problem but only for the records ..the answer is .you refill until this coming almost full.not overflow..if its possible you remove the old silicone oil
toyota original stores.I recommend not to use another common silicon oil because you dont know the exact viscocity
Dear friend. what liquid do you fill in the unit? what's her name? where to buy it?
this is a special silicone oil that use toyota for hydraulic clutches like this in video. the code number you can see to the video and to the first comment (08816-03001 ) .Toyota dealer is the supplier.If you do not know the viscocity of the original do not take the risk to put something similar.
@runtomas silicone oil and toyota sells it..
Saludo buenas disculpe amigo donde puedo conseguir es aceite de silicon
very nice video, thanks
Используйте пмс 1000, пмс 10000 не используйте тк температура застывания +46градусов, муфта будет постоянно включена.
Nice Video
How much silicone oil? Thanks
18 ml.
thanks mate.
Like watching paint dry ... speak up boy!!
Jurasic 😂
Todo esse trabalho pra montar a hélice ao contrário
@mgvant που ρε αντωνη να βαρεσω βαριοπουλα?ολα ανοιξαν μια χαρα..
βαριοπουλα δεν εφαγε ουτε ο πεθαμενος για να ανοιξει..
knowing half is worst than knowing nothing!!
proverbs are good.but its better when somebody speaks with epicheirema ;-)
Don't you think your comment is a little pedantic and a bit laquacious? : D
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AMIGO, PARA UN FAN CLUTCH, DE UNA FORD F-150, QUE TIPO DE ACEITE DE SILICON Y LA CANTIDAD QUE DEBE LLEVAR, SI TIENES ALGUN MANUAL DE REPARACIÓN PARA EL FAN, TE AGRADECERÍA ME LO PROPORCIONARAS, MI CORREO ES mirey_marg@hotmail.com.
+tomay ramirez all liquids that working for similar purposes has same viscocity.you will ask a silicone oil for fun.
Специальное предложение для автомастерских занимающихся ремонтом и восстановлением вискомуфт от ООО «ПКН-Секвойя» ПМС-10000 (Полиметилсилоксановая жидкость), для вискомуфты.
pkns.ru/
You can't do it
what did you try to do and you couldnt succeed my friend?
А где разъяснение выполняемых работ? Сколько геля заливается в муфту? Есть же вариант - просто долить гель,не вскрывая муфту. Ведь она перестаёт работать именно от не хватки геля в муфте! Ролик ни о чём!
glad i found this video,my 99 toyota hi ace needs a new clutch fan its not unlocking,changing it seems a whole lot easier now!