Such a good documentary! No annoying background noises or loud music. No cheesy re-enactments. Lots of simple panoramic camera work. The narrator has a smooth voice. Hard to find many like this
I dont mean to be so off topic but does anybody know of a tool to log back into an instagram account..? I was stupid forgot my password. I would appreciate any help you can give me
From analyzing ancient DNA, it was discovered that modern Greeks are descendant of ancient Mycenaeans, which are also closely related to Minoans. Researchers suggest that this can be explained by the migration of the earliest farmers who sailed across the Aegean, a crossroads of civilizations.
The island of Santorini was already half missing during the last great explosiΜαίon. It submerged thousands of years before that, forming a huge port, conntrolled by the people of Akroteree. That's why it was called "kallisti neesos" (the most beatiful island), cause it provided at those times the amazing view that it does also nowadays.
The Minoan civilization thrived from 3650 BC till 1400 BC. Around 1600 BC the eruption of Thira, caused the Minoan civilization, to decline. The Minoan civilization was the most advanced bronze age civilization in the world and unparalleled in almost every way. from palaces, flush toilets, roads, advanced 5-7 storey buildings, with toilets on every floor. sewerage and drainage systems, incredible unparalleled art, etc. The Mycenaean civilization took over around 1400 BC marking the end of the Minoans. The Minoan civilization thrived for over 2000 years. Minoan cities like Phaestos dates to 4000 BC and the largest city Knossos history can be traced back to 7000 BC. Pottery started from 6500 BC. In other words, the Minoans thrived in 1600 BC before the volcanic explosion, but so did the Minoans thrive in 1800 BC 2000 BC 2400 BC 2800 BC 3000 BC etc. Starting from 2000 BC the Minoans started building Palaces. The Minoan civilization was one of the 3 Bronze Age civilizations in the Aegean/ Greece. -Minoan Civilization ( 3650 BC-1400 BC) -Helladic Period (3300 BC - 1800 BC) -Cycladic Civilization (3300 BC - 2000 BC)
Interesting India has been telling the western scientists for ages the we had great cities and advanced ed civilisation before the human origins of the bible 5000 history haha lol. The myths in India say floods put great Indian cities went underwater long time ago.i dnt c how fast these great these civilisations became in such short human history. Saraswati(9000bc) and Indus(3300) civilisations definitely predate human history of western scientists .they had also in India great cities,great baths,dancing girls,astronomy,maths,well ratio measurements in building :) even the sound of the sun was known which is omn :) elora canes,angor watt,temples of India cudnt have been built in a few thousand years of human history.what else we don't know ? Is the earth realy as round as those nasa images? haha lol.
shashi sharma What is your point? In India there are many sayings and (exaggerated) stories just like in Bollywood, but in reality they aren't really true are they? Jealousy is also a very common thing. 1). India is by far not the worlds oldest civilization and beyond all certainty by far not the most influential civilization. Ancient Greece's Influence is found in every corner of the world, in every civilization. Even the name India is a Greek word and your main language that connects all Indian peoples is present-day English. Again exaggerated stories from people with (primarily) Indian background, only investigating their own history and not those from other regions in the world. That's why ridiculous claims because of lack of education are made. I'll tell you why: 2). To start: Turkey(Anatolia), Greece, Greek Island of Cyprus, Levant region, has a much older life span of civilization. In Turkey alone (which was less than 600 years ago, Greek, just like Pakistan now with India) every year many 4000-10000 BC cities and sites are found. Turkey holds the oldest temple in the world (10.000 BC) and Catalhoyuk (7000 BC) the largest and best preserved neolithic city in the world. Next to this Greece and Turkey hold the most archaeological sites in the world. -News from recent for instance: A new palace from 4500 BC: archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.nl/2014/09/chalcolithic-palace-unearthed-at.html?Feed:+TheArchaeologyNewsNetwork+(The+Archaeology+News+Network) First of all. Classical Greece was the brightest era of human civilization, with the most powerful impact to this world today. Not only are 8 out of 10 most influential people in the world Greek, not Indian pantheon.media.mit.edu/rankings/people/all/all/-4000/2010/H15 - The entire foundation of the western world (60% of the world) is Greek up to very strong influences in central Asia and the Indian subcontinent, Not to forget that Ancient Greece, profoundly influenced central Asia and India, through Greco- Bactrian Kingdom that existed 400 years long. As Ancient Greece has Sculptures, architecture, Jewelry, Art, Theatre that was unrivaled to anywhere in the world, this resulted in the great transmission of Greek knowledge to Central Asia and India. - Did you know that the Buddha was made by first in Greek? And that for 1000 years long the Greek Buddha was the largest stream in Central Asia and Indian Subcontinent? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhist_art -To theatre (which was also invented in Greece together with Drama, comedy, satire, and so on) "The earliest form of the theatre of India was the Sanskrit theatre.[1] It began after the development of Greek and Roman theatre and before the development of theatre in other parts of Asia." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_of_India - all the way to Astronomy "For example, Hellenistic astronomy is known to have been practiced near India in the Greco-Bactrian city of Ai-Khanoum from the 3rd century BCE. Various sun-dials, including an equatorial sundial adjusted to the latitude of Ujjain have been found in archaeological excavations there.Numerous interactions with the Mauryan Empire, and the later expansion of the Indo-Greeks into India suggest that transmission of Greek astronomical ideas to India occurred during this period" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_astronomy - to the coinage system that also was invented in Greece that indirectly introduced this to India and during the 400 years of Hellenistic spread of knowledge, heavily influenced India. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_of_the_Indo-Greeks -And the list goes on and on. But not only that. The most advanced pieces of technical engineering unparalleled to anywhere else in the world also comes from the Greeks. Of which the antikythera is a very strong example of and named as the first analog computer in the world, able to calculate the movements of the stars, predict eclipses, and so on. Completely unheard of in the ancient world and a truly uparalleled phenomenom. www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-technology/incredible-inner-workings-ancient-antikythera-mechanism-explained-001066 - to Heron the greatest experimenter of ancient time, invented the first robotics, Pneumatism, to the invention of the steam engine, automatic doors, elevators, steam cannon, to hydraulics, Automata, Mechanica, Catoptrica, Stereometrica, (heron of Alexandria: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_Alexandria ). -Also not only is the Greek language the oldest living continuous Indo-European language in the world www.humanjourney.us/images/indoEuropeanTree.gif - but also the richest language in the world with 5 million words.Even stated by Guinnes book of Records. And with 70 million words when combining it with the Scientific, Medical and Astronomical world of which Greek is the foundation of. www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2010/09/with-five-million-words-greek-is-worlds.html www.explorers-journal.com/we-all-speak-greek/ - And not only that. Greek language has an immense influence on most other Indo-European languages in the world. 54.000 words in the English language is Greek of origin. The only language in India that connects all groups of peoples with different languages that otherwise cannot communicate. English language has become thus the primary language in India. EVEN the name India itself is Greek. If I say ego, (=I or me), or telephone (tele=far, phonos=sound) or when I say Philosophy (Philos=friend or love, sophia = wisdom = love for wisdom) or Pediatrician (pedia= children), and so on an so on. And also, the architecture, jewellery, art of the Greeks in the ancient world is unparalleled. Go research. There is nothing of archaeological evidences of sculptures, gold or other jewellery in Ancient India at the time of Ancient Greeks or before that, that even comes close to that of ancient Greece. The Greeks spread this knowledge to India after Alexander the Great conquered the region, and only then do you see a spark of new forms of artistic levels in India from 6th century AD onwards. c300221.r21.cf1.rackcdn.com/laocoon-and-his-sons-1348967845_org.jpg www.greek-thesaurus.gr/images/p7/hairnet.JPG 24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82bvcxdIz1rufkgxo1_1280.jpg nikitas3.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/005-2.jpg en.museicapitolini.org/var/museicivici/storage/images/musei/musei_capitolini/percorsi/percorsi_per_sale/palazzo_nuovo/sala_dei_filosofi/ritratto_di_omero/10279-11-ita-IT/ritratto_di_omero.jpg c3.staticflickr.com/3/2447/3753527136_333af6fc65_b.jpg www.thecultureconcept.com/circle/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Charioteer-Bronze-Greek-Sculpture.jpg s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2e/b0/a7/2eb0a712f6cf9fe702d3fa446e278ab9.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------- And that was in Classical Greek time. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now the Indus valley civilization. The Indus valley civilization(3000-1900 BC) was a collection of Cultures living in the Indus Valley and was an advanced bronze age civilization in what is now Pakistan. Also before bronze age India there are some notable archaeological sites, among them are one of the earliest evidence in India, the farm village from Mehrgarh 7000 BC, the Neolithic Eddakal caves 6000 BC, the Bhimbetka Rockshelters 10.000 BC-2500 BC. Although these are old, there are not many archaeological sites of these kinds. But so did the Greeks. Very simplified the history periods of Greece is - Byzantium Greece, 300 AD -1453 AD - Classical Greece is roughly 800 - 65 BC - Greece Dark Ages 1200 - 800 BC - Mycenae (from the legends of Troy) 2000 - 1200 BC To the 3 bronze age civilizations - Cycladic 3300 BC - 2000BC - Helladic 3200 BC -1400 BC - Minoan 3650-1400 BC of which the Minoans where incredibly advanced. With incredible 5-7 storey high palaces, cities with sewerage systems, plumbing systems, central heating, roads, urban planning and toilets in every (multistorey) house even in the 2nd and 3rd floor. With high complex architecture to withstand earthquakes, and unparalleled art that you (again) won't find anywhere in the world in the Bronze age era (just like Classical Greece in Ancient times). This is also where the stories of Atlantis comes from. The archaeological site of Knossos was already inhabited since 7000BC www.minoanatlantis.com/pix/Minoan_Knossos_Palace_Reconstruction_1.jpg upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Akrotiri_ship-procession-full_02.jpg paintings upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Knossos_-_North_Portico_02.jpg palace ant3145crete.wikispaces.com/file/view/Knossos_1.jpg/68392549/Knossos_1.jpg palace upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Disque_de_Phaistos_A.jpg kbagdanov.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/min-1.jpg palaces www.dartmouth.edu/~prehistory/aegean/wp-content/flagallery/lesson17/17-15.jpg 3 storey houses fashionhistory.zeesonlinespace.net/images/minoan1.gif paintings media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/originals/63/8b/40/638b40712476ee7928d37183553409a9.jpg www.pinterest.com/pin/515169644846367611/ classconnection.s3.amazonaws.com/305/flashcards/873305/png/crete1319909133410.png www.themodernantiquarian.com/img_fullsize/65187.jpg In other words. people fail to understand that Greece's history is far far larger than "just" Classical Greece. But because Classical Greece has an unparalleled influence on this world, overshadows the other timeperiods of Greece. It's because of the Minoan Greek time period, that Classical Greece was so far ahead of it's time beyond others. And Greece's time period does not stop there. It goes deeper than this: the rest of the history of Greece. 1). THE OLDEST WRITING IN THE WORLD. GREEK ALPHABET WAS IN USE IN 6000 BC PREDATING INDIAN, EGYPT, MESOPOTAMIA WRITING, BY 3000-3500 YEARS. The oldest writing found on the planet is the DISPILIO TABLET in Greece. Which dates to 5300 BC. Found in the lake of Kastoria in Greece (found in1993), called the Dispilio tablet with the first linear writing from 5300BC pre-dating Egyptian, Indian and Sumerian writings by 2300 to 3000 years. archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.nl/2012/07/prehistorc-tablet-calls-into-question.html#.UoS9lYguiRM www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-europe/dispilio-tablet-oldest-known-written-text-00913 greece.greekreporter.com/2012/07/16/7270-year-old-tablet-found-in-kastoria-calls-into-question-history-of-writing/ These Linear writings are SIMILAR to the writings of today. In other words the GREEK ALPHABET was in use 6000BC, as ALL European languages are Linear(alphabetical) writings Another amazing finds are the YURA potteries in Central Greece. These contain again even older than the Dispilio writings from 5500-6000BC. MORE IMPORTANTLY. The postsherds contains letters of the Greek alphabet, that is in use today. Making it the oldest in use language in the world www.hellinon.net/NeesSelides/greek_alphabet_was_in_use_at_600.htm en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youra_Potsherds newsarc.net/showthread.php/soc.history.ancient/Greek%20Alphabet%20Was%20In%20Use%20At%206000%20BC/1124718413.326882.281460@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com These predating for example earliest Indian writing by over 3000-4000 years. These Yura Potteries together with the Displilio tablet are the oldest writings on earth. These Archaeological finds will change the history of the world This extremely old writings fit the following finding that archaeologists have done for the last 4 years. For they found an incredibly advanced 8000 year old civilization that had buildings and multi storey houses. Which can be seen as the forefather of the incredibly advanced Minoan civilization from 3650 BC - 1300 BC. 2).NEW REMARKABLY 8000 YEAR OLD ADVANCED CIVILIZATION FOUND IN 2013-2014, GREECE (6000BC) "The discovery reflects an incredibly advanced civilization existing in northern Greece 8,000 years ago." (Already 54 settlements have been discovered) www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/accidental-discovery-8000-year-old-settlements-and-necropolis-greece-001531 And the 60+ settlements, cities,villages of 8000 years ago fits with the 7300 year old Dispilio tablet writing and the 8000 year old Yura potteries writings. And these fit within the next things: 3). PAVLOPETRI, THE OLDEST SUNKEN CITY IN THE WORLD, WITH INCREDIBLE URBAN CITY PLANNING THAT MATCHES AND EXCEEDS THAT OF SOME CITIES TODAY. THE CITY IS AT LEAST 5000 YEARS OLD. THERE ARE FEW OLDER SUNKEN SITES IN THE WORLD BUT NONE CAN BE CONSIDERED TO BE PLANNED CITIES SUCH AS THIS, WHICH IS WHY IT IS UNIQUE. Greece has a coastline of 16.000 km. 60% of all cities in Greece today, have been found close to the sea. Greece's geography is very diverse with 6000 islands and diverse mainland. There have already been found many cities in the sea such as Pavlopetri (5000+ year old) which is the oldest submerged archaeological town site in the world, complete with incredibly advanced urban planning compared to and even better than some cities today: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlopetri www.bbc.com/news/magazine-15191614 4). OLDEST GOLDSMITHING IN THE WORLD Or the oldest gold smithing in the world over 4600-4200BC in South Bulgaria/Greece. www.pacmusee.qc.ca/en/exhibitions/varna-worlds-first-gold-ancient-secrets ancientstandard.com/2007/08/02/gold-of-the-dead-ca-4600-%E2%80%93-4200-bc/ 5). PETRALONA MAN 800.000 BC -700.000 BC (Oldest human found in Europe), Greece www.ancient-origins.net/human-origins-science/human-skull-challenges-out-africa-theory-001283 6). OLDEST USE OF FIRE IN THE WORLD 700.000 BC, Greece en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petralona_cave 7). OLDEST SEA NAVIGATION IN THE WORLD, GREECE 130.000 BC, www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-technology/ancient-navigation-130000-years-ago-00963 8). OLDEST SWASTIKA'S IN THE WORLD IN THE BALKANS The Swastika symbol is used in many civilizations. Some Indians (without knowledge of their history and that of other countries) have fantasized that they so-called created it, but that is always without facts and wrong. The oldest evidence of swastika in India is from 2500 BC. The oldest swastika found in the world is in Ukraine 10.000BC. www.slavorum.com/forum/index.php?topic=1856.0 -Then Vinca culture in Balkans(Greece, Bulgaria etc) used the swastika continuously from 6500BC for over 2000 years long. The oldest ever found swastika in India is from 2500BC. The swastika is even used in the Vinca script of 7000-6000BC, which predates Indus valley script (2600-1900BC) by 4000-5000 years. aleximreh.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/swastika-in-the-vinca-script-6000-7000-bc/ 9). THEOPETRA, KALAMBAKA, Greece 130.000 BC With Oldest man made structure (23.000 BC) on the planet visitmeteora.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/theopetra-cave-inhabited-by-humans-130-000-years-ago/ archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.nl/2010/03/oldest-man-made-structure-found-in.html#.VjU23LerTRY 10). FRANCHTHI 25.000 BC, Greece media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/6d/a6/0e/6da60eb609f0eab8d070086dccb75165.jpg 11). KLIMONAS 9100 BC, Greek island of Cyprus en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klimonas 12). SHILLOUROKAMBOS 8500 BC, Greek island of Cyprus media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/64/99/5f/64995fe79103a63592b9c2402f8733f8.jpg 13). KHIROKITIA 7000BC,Greek island of Cyprus Khirokitia media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/8c/84/30/8c84303d1d2e038e294dd637b3522122.jpg 14). SESKLO 6850 BC (among 60 settlements from 7th-8th millennium BC), Greece media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2a/bb/a3/2abba385155e17d7264044fc6a18048d.jpg 15). DIKILI TASH 6500BC, WITH 6200 YEAR OLD WINE MAKING, North Greece Winemaking of 6200 year old Dikili Tash (Greece) 16). PYRAMID, ARGOS, GREECE 2720BC Pyramid in Argos, Greece 17). MAKRIYIALOS, 5500 BC, Greece www.ime.gr/chronos/01/images/gallery/nl/makryg/makrig2.gif 18). DISPILIO 5300BC - 4500BC Kastoria, Greece media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/4c/c7/6e/4cc76eb933c14ef0145ea33c78ef93e9.jpg 19). DIMINI 4800 BC, With earliest fortifications 3400 BC, Greece en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimini www.figurines.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/dimini_anaktoro1.jpg 20). NEA NIKOMEDEIA, 6700 BC, Greece www.elinos.gr/images/area1.jpg 21). MAROULAS, KYTHNOS, 9500 BC, Greece www.kythnos.gr/en/content/history/100-centuries/ www.kythnos.gr/images/history/Xerolithies3.JPG www.gtp.gr/MGfiles/location/image14717[7343].jpg 22). Sitagroi, 5500 BC, Greece www.ime.gr/chronos/02/mainland/images/eh/habitation/max/sitagr.gif www.sitagroi-dramas.gr/data/storage/attachments/f40f757947675221d68cdfd02efbdac5.jpg 23). ARGISSA 6600 BC, Greece sup.kathimerini.gr/kath/engs/img/LIFE/2011/01/greecesrich.jpg 24). MAVROPIGI, 7660 BC, Greece antiquity.ac.uk/projgall/mentessidi336/images/figure3big.jpg e-ptolemeos.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ANASKAFI-MAVROPIGI.jpg 25). Phaestos, Crete, 4000 BC, Greece en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaistos www.dartmouth.edu/~prehistory/aegean/wp-content/flagallery/lesson12/12-26.jpg www.greek-islands.us/heraklio/knossos/Phaistos-Palace.jpg www.greeceathensaegeaninfo.com/a-greece-travel/a-maps/crete-phaistos-plan-lg.jpg 26). -KALAMAKIA, Greece 80.000 BC, - LAKONIS, Greece 100.000 BC, www.amna.gr/english/articleview.php?id=2773 - APIDIMA,Greece 300.000 BC, - Alonnisos Greece, 120.000 BC, - Ochre mines, Thasos, Greece 20.300 BC - Piges tou Angiti, Greece 30.000 BC - Kleidi, Epirus, Greece 16.000 BC - Boila, Epirus, Greece 14.000 BC 27). SKARKOS 3000 BC, Ios, Greece www.thebestinheritage.com/Files/images/presentations/2009/P_04_skarkos.jpg www.thebestinheritage.com/files/Images/presentations/2009/P_04_skarkos01.jpg www.thebestinheritage.com/presentations/2009/xxi-ephorate-of-prehistoric-and-clasical-antiquites-of-the-hellenic-ministry-of-culture-and-tourism,30.html 28). Agios Andreas, Sifnos, Greece mysifnos.gr/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/%CE%91%CE%BA%CF%81%CF%8C%CF%80%CE%BF%CE%BB%CE%B7-%CE%91%CE%B3%CE%AF%CE%BF%CF%85-%CE%91%CE%BD%CE%B4%CF%81%CE%AD%CE%B1.jpg eparxiakofos.gr/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/11.jpg eparxiakofos.gr/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/10.jpg 29). Kalavasos Tenta 7000 BC www.cyprushighlights.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/0212.jpg ips-static.videopublishing.com/kyproscom/Cyprus_Larnaka_Tenta_Kalavasos_1_lrg-profile.jpg agrino.org/nicosia/072.jpg www.oocities.org/marcandkaren2004/cyprus/cyTenta7H350W577_28k.JPG 30). Akrotiri-Aetokremnos 10.500 BC Promachonas, 5300 BC Aravissos, 4500 BC Rachmani 4500 BC Ayia Varvara Asprokremnos 9000 BC Soufli Magoul 6500 BC Ayia Sophia, Larisa, 4500 BC Ayios Georgios, 6500-5800BC Magoula Asimochoma 5300 BC Platia Magoula Zarkou 5300 BC Prodromos, Karditsa 6500 BC Tzani Magoula 5800 BC Ais Yiorkis 7800 BC Magoula Visviki 5300 BC Magoula Karamourlar 6500 BC Kataliondas- Kourvellos 8000 BC Magoula Sarantaporo 5800 BC Lianokladi, Phthiotis 5800 BC Aria, Argolid 4500 BC Ayia Marina, Phocis 5300 BC Lerna 5800 BC Sphakovouni, Arcadia 4500 BC Ayios Dimitrios, Triphylia 4500 BC Myrina, Lemnos 5300 BC Saliagos 5300 BC Yiali, Nisyros 4500 BC Sotira 5000 BC Ierapetra 5800 BC - And many many more, Mitrou, Knossos, Achilleion, paradimi, Youra, Saliagos, Melos, Asea, Nemea, Corinth, Boeotia, Kitsos, Kephala, Eutretis, Elateia, Halai, Choirospillia, Otzaki, , Zarkou, Tsangly, Diros, Priniatikos Pyrgos, Kastros, Loutro, Kephala, Malia, ,Phylakopi Akrotiri, Sifnos, Agia Irini, Panormos, Kissonerga, Kavos Daskaleiou, Minoa, Keros, Strofilas, Psiloritis, ETC, Ranging from 11th millennium 3rd millennium BC With 4 new great finds from last 2 months, september - oktober 2015: -Massive 4500-5000 year old city found in Peloponese, Greece www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/huge-ancient-greek-city-found-underwater-aegean-sea-003709 -22 ancient shipwrecks found in 13 days, Greece news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/22-shipwrecks-found-in-single-greek-location-in-greece-151028.htm -3600 year old Mycanenean palace www.ekathimerini.com/200878/article/ekathimerini/news/archaeologists-making-exciting-discoveries-in-laconia -3500 year old Mycaenean grave filled with 1400 gold, silver and bronze jewelry,weapons. wthitv.com/2015/10/31/spectacular-3500-year-old-warriors-grave-found-in-greece/ www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3291134/Ancient-warrior-s-tomb-laid-untouched-3-500-years-discovered-Greece-alongside-huge-hoard-treasure-including-gold-jewellery-signet-rings.html So yes. Surely India has a very old civilization. But some people fail to realize that the world is a vast place, and that Greece, the biggest influence in the world, not only consists of "just" classical Greece, but that Greece's history and archaeological sites (and most museums in the world) are older and in far more abundance than that of India. And with every day incredible new finds are done in Greece from any time period. And then we should not forget that there are more regions that have incredibly old history. If you count Turkey(Anatolia) (Turkey is for Greeks what Pakistan is for India), which was also Greek land until 550 years ago, has also incredibly old history beyond that of India. which is directly just like together with Greece the homeland of the Greeks. Also Bulgaria (country bordering Greece) also has old history, up to the Levant and fertile crescent. Basically South East Europe (Greece, Bulgaria) the rest of the Eastern Mediterranean ( Anatolia (Turkey), Syria, Iraq, hold many many world records of firsts in the world, not seen anywhere else in the world nor in India
+Ptolemy336VV haha lol.sanskrit is older then Greek.and the Indus Valley older then Greek u need to study other history and not urs lol! Saraswati civilisation and dwarka predates u Minoans and Greeks. The oldest religion Sanskrit the biggest and advanced cities r found in India now haha lol
shashi sharma Your redundant Indian bloating was seen from a stinking mile away.| And how funny. While I refer you to learn history from other nations and regions to know the place of Indian History. While India is a vast place, only a tiny fraction of India houses India's older archaeological sites. While the East Mediterranean, Levant and Fertile Cresent is far older and has much more archaeological sites dated to before the Bronze age (3300BCE). The Greek island of Cyprus alone has older archaeological sites than the Entirity of India. O an I am very familiar with India's archaeology. Much more so than 99,9% of all the Indians and given your reaction much more than you. For starters you have not even read anything I have written, before you should open your redundant low IQ mouth.
The Minoan remains of Knossos, although partly reconstructed, and the exquisites numerous artifacts of the museum of minoan civilization in Heraklion, cretr, are indeed one of the most fascinating remains to see in the world.
The Minotaur fable as presented here sounds like a Minoan version of what Sir James Frazer presents in his "The Golden Bough." A priest/King either getting sacrificed if his magic doesn't work to bring the annual harvest, or sacrificing someone else.
It would be interesting what the Egyptians said about the Minoans. It would be awesome if there ever were a bilingual inscription that can help to translate linear A
the early peoples of Crete and Greek Isles are of much interest to me, the migrations of the early Neolithic Farmers and the cultures that grew in that period of time are a great study.
Knossos Palace was reconstructed and the paintings are also a reconstruction from what Arthur Evans imagined what it would be, they're NOT the original paintings! The original name of Santorini was Thera!
Nono nare... Some of the most beautyful and well known frescoes of Knossos palace were painted in vivid colors by two Suiss amateur painters, the ...bros.
Thank you - your response got me thinking. If there are no surviving written records, how do we know it was a democratic society? How do we know everything centered on joy?. It might have been the norm to only paint happy faces for some religious reason? If there was trade with other entities, how come there are so very few (given the length of time it survived) articles from other countries?
This seems dumbed down like a lot of American documentaries. It relies a lot on unproven conjecture, like the idea that there was an actual King Minos and that he was represented on that vase, or that the Minoans loved life and frivolity. The Mycenaeans were an early form of Greeks, they weren't just the ancestors of the Classical Greeks.
The legend was that Athens owed a tribute every year to King Minos of 9 maidens and young men.. who jumped over the bull horns ,flipped onto its back , them flip off the back to the ground behind the bull. I grew upon Crete and it is indeed a paradise! The Museum of Heraklion has vast exhibits of frescoes and double headed axes, statues etc. I lived just a few miles from Knossos and went there many times. As a child you could still sit on the stone throne in one of the rooms . The legend is that Minos’ wife fell in love with a beautiful white bull and the Minotaur ( which was half human half bull) was laced in the prison of the labyrinth. There is a large stone statue of bull horns on the edge of the perimeter .It is a n area prone to earthquakes.
"Life was peaceful and idyllic all the time for the Minoans" (until disaster struck) - sounds like they used to say about the Mayans - they had "peace, harmony and just sat around worshipping time". Then we learn of sacrifice, self mutilation, war...
it is said that because there have not been found elements of conflicts.. also in egyptian incriptions it seems that there are peaceful and trade relations.. thats why it is said that. of course there mye have been done conflicts that are unknown untill now.
I have long been intrigued how it happened that exposing women's breast started being considered taboo, since nothing of the sort ever applied to men. I mean, I get the dislike of the genitalia but why breasts, especially seeing as women used them to feed infant babies. Well, my theory is that together with the rise of civilizations it became common for women of the elite to wear dresses that would simply keep their breasts up, rather than dragging them down and hurting their backs. Of course the poor wouldn't be able to afford such a thing. So maybe in time wearing a breast-covering dress became associated with wealth and prestige and when virtually every woman started wearing it, it became considered indecent to do otherwise.
yarpen, i don't agree with your theory at all. Traditions never trickle from upper to lower class but get embelished the other way round. But that is not even necessary to disprove it. I think it has to do with sexuality first and foremost or curbing the lust of men seing young fertile women that visibly reached sexual maturity with plump beautiful breasts ready for the going. From the time humans became furr less animals young breasts had to be a trigger for seeking intercourse. That of course could lead to fights and violence among men. Covered breast was probably imposed on young women by mature men especially their fathers. As a woman gets older why would she want to change that yong habit. Habits formed early in life stick. In the contrary she would want to keep believing her breasts can arouse men and needed to be covered even if it did not anymore, feminine coquetry would dictate that. The reason men nipples do not trigger female sexuality is that a baby girl is not breast fed by her father's nipples but a boy is by his mother's. Male sexuality is formed by this you can read on it from psychanalysis. Female sexuality has to do with her father protection, provider and procreator roles. It's why women are more sexually attracted to a young father who has a son or daughter than a single man of the same age. It's all rather obvious actually. For Minoans women to go breastless it had to be a matriarchal society were women have the power over men. How is this possible, well it implies an advanced society in relationships were power resides not in physical force like the greeks which were an inferior civilization compared to the Minoans (and jealous of them, note that the greeks are known to deride other civilization including persians, egyptians and were violent and warlike). Back to the harmonious Minoans, mariage was probably arranged by women not by men, household, family and religion (priestesses) were areas of society under women's control. Sexuality must have been interesting too. I would not be surprised that men had no property rights, everything was in the possession of women including.. men. It would be interesting to find out if Minoans were monogamous, i guess not. Matriarchal society probably had women allowing the sexual partners they wanted and be responsible to provide for them. This system would also make sure men had no woman to themselves only. But somehow they lived a happy balanced life. This would paint the Minoans as the exact opposite of Greeks. A natural cataclysm erased the Minoan society and kept the greeks. In those days populations were in thousands not millions. A civilization could become extinct. Unfortunately the western world is modelled after the greek's model.
Yep, you're right! Good civilizations are always destroyed by the evil ones, and they always give us a different version of what happened. Spain did the same to the Mayan civilization.. This world has always been controlled by the evil ones.
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I prefer this ancient civilization A LOT more than my current one I live in. And that is the truth
The idea of a historical Minos is extremely far-fetched. Even the idea that there was a monarchy in Minoan settlements is unproven. Even the presiding seat of the "throne room" (which may not be a throne room) might have been intended not for a king but a priestess. The Mycenaeans were led by warrior kings, but the actual evidence on the governance of the Minoans is sparse. The "palaces" are very likely to have been built for the benefit of all and it's possible that they are not palaces but an assortment of temples and dwellings. The frescoes do neither focus on nor magnify important persons, be it deity or royalty, in the same way that egyptian funerary art does (and any interpretations that they do are only belabouring the point, in reality all people are consistently represented in an egalitarian fashion in Cretan and Theran frescoes). We do not know if the Minoans had kings at all.
Penny Smirlis All palatial sites except Knossos were destroyed in the 15th c BCE. Knossos was probably Myceneanised after that and stops being occupied around the time of the Bronze Age collapse. Minoans continued to exist throughout in small settlements and occupy new sites, even mountaintops in the 12th and 11th centuries. The earliest source is Homer and he is unlikely to have recorded anything before the Myceneans. So no, classical Greek sources are not that reliable, unfortunately.
@@pennysmirlis5989 no we do not. For instance there is written "evidence" of six kings of Rome, but besides the Tarquinius, all of them are likely mythical. And this for the events recorded 400 years after they happened. Imagine 1000 years after or so.
Yes all our educated guesses, but so is everything we know about anything in this time period. My belief personally is it wasn't a society at all, it seems too utopic. An idealism by some rich guy of the time, possibly a holy man or women. As all of these conclusions are a) written by a guy 400 years after the fact from a world where they regarded men as rulers.* b) pictures on a wall which could be painted by any artisan of that time period. Imagine if 5,000 years from now people find our remains and civilisation, and instead of all of the histories and computers etc, denoting all our history only the garage wall of Banksy's Distopic Feminism painting is left? Then they would think we lived under the rule of women and fell by their incompetence and lavish behaviours. That be hilarious. I want a time machine now. *note: greeks, especially athens, were curious of "what if"s - like we are today - and one of their what ifs was the fact what if society was different? aka flipped upside down, inside out. So the story of minos is a great one for their what if mentality and also to warn of foreign invaders to the greek culture and way of life. A Mionian civilisation, thats lets face it rather picturesque, quite Greek in archetecture and isn't far fetched to be plausible for Greeks to have done, made by a person(s) to imagine what it would be like. A place where worship, equality, and enjoyment were all in and the same. Where there is no class divides and no jealousy. Only one thing, a worship of the bull (of which Greeks regarded as holy) of which their entire existence is rallied around. I mean even down to what the woman wore as fashion, must be pure fiction. Thats made up by a man...or that "palace" was a pleasure house, either one.
At About 3;00 it speaks of an image of King Minos ob a vase found on Crete. Later in the video it says that the Minos myth is a not product of the Minoan but rather, their enemies, the Greeks. If that's true, the vase probably needs to date from after the Greek conquest. Would the Minoans be likely to portray an enemy's myth about them?
the problem is with your understanding capability, not with the video. The existence of king Minos is not tied to the greek's minautor's myth a deriding fiction. The greeks distorted the reality out of jealousy and envy they were an enemy of the Minoans. What did not exist was the labyrinth of the minotaur, what did exist was the city whose architecture looked like a labyrinth, its king MinThe greek myth was formed
its from a myth of athens.. not an official one.. its an ypothesis.. also in the nature magazine the genetics show that minoans were almost the same with myceaneans.. just a diffrent political structure. and the region of course.
Minoans were Greeks too,they were not enemies...stop the propaganda...In the east Crete has being done a dna test.The results showed that they have similar dna with ancient minoan sceletons that were found in east crete. So this means that the Minoans are the ancestors of the modern Cretans who are Greek....Minoan were Greeks by blood and language and religion. Linear B used both in Mycenaean and Minoan kingdoms was the immediate precursor of ancient Greek as we know it. Also, Linear A, a former language that is in the process of deciphering points to the same fact. The same holds for modern Greeks. As DNA studies reveal, they do have near mythical origins. The transition and evolution of Linear A->Linear B->Greek alphabet is a proof per se about the natural transition and evolution of a language and its users. in fact despite several conspiracy theories on Ancient Greeks being either African or Nordic,(we laugh here) it has been proven that modern Greeks today are still direct descendants of the first Greeks (Minoans and Mycenaens).
nature magazine published an article about the similar genetic origins between minoans and myceaneans.. the study came from many genetic scientists from different coutries with the help of skeletons in graves.. the people that you refer as greeks is hundrends of years later - i mean with this name-. the name when we reffer to such periods is useless.. but at least we know that always have been existed ethnic groups as it seems...myceaneans had different political structure and a much more military organisation.
Evans made things the way he thought they should be. But the excavation was all legit. He was wrong about many things. He thought they were somehow linked with the Egyptians. But in 2016 they took samples of skeletons in caves that stay cool in Crete, they were from 10,000 years to 4000 years, and Lo and behold they were almost 100 % western European. They think they were hunter gatherers, and there may have been a land bridge after the Ice Age.
They were connected to the Egyptians, through religion, phrase, and script. They had cousiin languages. They even said to be cousins. The people of Ka-nossos, and the people of Ka-naan, and the people of Ka-mat. All had language descended from Sumerian.
Western European? 🤣 Please stop feeding us nonsense. Your story doesn't add up! Even the Greeks of today are not Western European. People like you try too hard to associate themselves with Western culture as if that's a good thing.
This was SO full of conjectures, it sounded like it was written by someone who read a couple books from a library and deemed themselves an expert. In reality, we know so little about this culture we can hardly make any claims about their history and society.
Oh Jesus, enough with the BS conspiracy theories... there are *hundreds* of archeologists out there who want to make a name for themselves, usually by challenging the dominant beliefs. If we knew anything more about the Minoans, then it would make it into the mainstream knowledge regardless of what it was.
YES INDEED THE GREAT ATLANTIS WAS BEHIND THE PILLARS OF HERCULES ,A GREAT ISLAND IN ATLANTIC OCEAN WHERE AZORES ISLAND TODAY EXIST. GREAT ATLANTIS CIVILIZATIONS WERE DESTROYED IN WAR www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Atlantis 11.500 YEARS AGO WERE PART OF A GREAT ISLAND CALLED ATLANTIS CIVILIZATION . BUT IN BILLY MEIER CONTACT WITH ADVANCED ETs CALLED PLEJAREN , IT SAYS THAT THERE WERE 4 ATLANTIS CIVILIZATIONS ALL CONNECTED AND RULED BY A FEDERATION OF KINGS AND QUEENS OF WISDOM . THE OTHER 3 ATLANTIS WERE THE MINOANS CIVILIZATION IN CRETE AND SANTORINI ISLANDS . ALL THIS ANCIENT CIVILIZATION EXISTED 15.000 YEARS AGO AND WERE VERY ADVANCED IN SCIENCES , KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM AND WERE RULED BY KINGS AND QUEENS OF WISDOM OR GOODS AND GOODNESS , THIS CIVILIZATIONS WERE ADVANCED HUMANS WHICH COLONIZED EARTH 389.000 YEARS AGO IN MANY COMING AND GOING OFF EARTH SYSTEM OR AFTER HAVING COLONIZATIONS AND THEN AFTER THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGAIN WARS BETWEEN THEM THE ATLATENS CIVILIZATIONS .MORE INFORMATION ABOUT EARTH TRUTH ANCIENT HISTORY YOU CAN FIND IN CONTACTS NOTES BETWEEN BILLY MEIER AND PLEJAREN ETs ADVANCED HUMANS . www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Atlantis ; ca.figu.org ; figu.org ; http//:au.figu.org HAPPY READING :) . Contact report 219 In contact 219, 16th June 1987, Quetzal explains that there were four different Atlantises. The following are those four Atlantises chronicled in the same order as found in Contact Report 219, but with map notes for your own map investigations. New Atlantis beyond the Pillars of Hercules, between the Azores and Spain. Map research notes: Pillars of Hercules was a phrase that was applied in Antiquity (any period before the Middle Ages 476-1453) to the promontories (raised masses of land) that flank what we today call the two mini-mountains either side of the mediterranean sea entrance area, the Strait of Gibraltar. The Rock of Gibraltar on one side and mount Jebel Moussa on the other. Macaronesia, In google ocean there are many seamounts between the Azores and Spain, most of which would have been smaller, larger or connected now island archipelagos. The remaining island grouping candidates today; all of which would have theoretically been mountains in those times, include the Madeira archipelago islands; Porto Santo, Desertas, Bugio, Ilhéu de Chão, Savage, Selvagem Grande, Pequena. The now many Canary Islands; Tenerife, Fuerteventura, Gran Canaria, Lanzarote, La Palma, La Gomera, El Hierro etc and the more southern Cape Verde islands; Santiago, São Vicente, Santo Antão, Fogo, Sal, São Nicolau, Brava, Maio , Boa Vista etc. Probably worth explaining too that todays mainland; Portugul, Spain, Morocco, Western Sahara, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali and Algeria and todays European tourist destination Balearic islands; Majorca, Minorca, Ibiza etc while not listed, were probably also something too. Small Atlantis that existed in the Mediterranean Sea in the area of Santorini. Map research notes: Cyclades, about 220 islands, the major ones being Amorgos, Anafi, Andros, Antiparos, Delos, Eschati, Ios, Kea, Kimolos, Kythnos, Milos, Mykonos, Naxos, Paros, Folegandros, Serifos, Sifnos, Sikinos, Syros, Tinos, and Thira or Santoríni. There is also the Dodecanese, Ionian and Saronic islands and Crete, not to mention mainland Greece and Turkey themselves. Monstrous wealth of Archaeology in these entire areas of Earth. Old Atlantis on which later, after its downfall, Troy was built. Map research notes: Turkey, probably nothing like the fictional film Troy, though Brad Pitt and most of the cast of that film probably spent time in that entire southern European area in a previous incarnation at one time or another as a point of general interest. Troas, Lesbos, Tenedos. There is also apparently some mention of this geographical area in one of the religious bibles of the various Catholic peoples for whatever its historical worth. Great Atlantis in the Azores area of the Atlantic ocean. The rulers of whom ran a central government for all four Atlantises and their peoples. The administration of the various Atlantises took place through authorized representatives, who were called the 'Litent'. Map research notes: Today its nine volcanic islands in the Atlantic ocean. Ocean floor elevations seem to corroborate the meteor/comet pelting the ocean tsunami scenario and ocean level rise, connected islands situation. São Miguel, Pico, Terceira, São Jorge, Faial, Flores, Santa Maria, Graciosa, Corvo. You may also enjoy a cool refreshing beer known for its premium taste, 'San Miguel', not quite São Miguel, just have a beer. 'Litent' apparently does not translate or within any obvious variant from any of our modern languages, though it does mean lite in latin, low-fat, low-sugar, beer with relatively few calories, bundled or freeware software lite. There is no obvious evidence available because it was washed clean of everything if the tsunami was over a thousand meters tall. Contact report 256 In contact 256, 13th May 1996, included within a reader question in FIGU Bulletin 011, Ptaah provides information about the various ancient pyramid structures of Earth. Their historical relationship with the various prevailing events, re-purposing and association with the orientation of the stars around the Earth at the time of their construction approximately 73,340 years ago. Chronology Illustration An artists simulacrum representation of contextual content The above image accompanies contact 9 and has been included here to provide additional chronological clarity to the Atlantis events on this page. But which clashes chronologically with contact 70 yet not with contact 55 or contact 60. Chronology Disparity Jschwjsch Pelegon leaves earth around 40,000 years ago (contact 9). For 7000 years (contact 9), or 700 years (contact 70) earth was avoided and became wild. Jschwjsch Atlant and Jschrisch Karyatide (contact 70) returned (along with many others) 133,000 Earth years ago (contact 70) or 33,000 Earth years ago (contact 9) in the latest episode, under the leadership of Atlant, the continent of Atlantis, which had been headed for again and again, and used for millennia, was expanded and made habitable in the usual globalising fashion. While under the command of his wife Karyatide (Gender Equality), Lesser Atlantis (contact 70) or smaller-Atlantis (contact 55) (Santorini region) came into existence. Concurrently her cousin Muras built the gigantic city of Mu in the Gobi desert (China) (contact 55). For thousands of years they lived in friendship and peace (contact 9) a whole 1,800 years to be precise (contact 70). Until some scientists exalted themselves (contact 70) by the old thirst for might and power, and tried to seize the government(s) (contact 9). But the nations rose up against them and fled into space (contact 9) 15,000 years ago or 115,000 Earth years ago (contact 70). 2,000 years later they returned filled with hate, (contact 70) some 13,000 earth years ago (contact 9) or 113,000 (contact 70). Their single wish was, however, to gain control over the Earth, for which reason every individual was taught wicked intrigues and was instructed in the craft of war. In two groups, they settled in the high north (contact 9) and the present Florida of North America (before an upset of the Earth shifted its axis contact 70), while they continuously attacked Atlantis and Mu in wars. In only a few millenniums after their occupation of Earth bases, they succeeded in destroying (the civilizations of) Atlantis and Mu completely (contact 9). The few survivors went into servitude, while many great scientists were able to flee, and return to their home worlds in the Plejaren system. Or (contact 70) During around half a millennia, or said very precisely, during 502 years, those war machinations continued, until Arus the First, who in the meanwhile had become old and weak, succeeded in infiltrating wicked elements of his hater humans into the leading controlling ranks of Atlantis and Mu, who secretly stirred up violence and hate for so long, as also did their descendants over several centuries, until, through boundless intrigues, Mu and Atlantis were able to be completely destroyed some centuries later, while the only few survivors were beaten into servitude.These events transpired approximately 11,500 years ago (contact 60).
Some of the Minoan paintings shown depict peoples of a reddish hue color, quite similar to the ancient Egyptians. The Minoans might have been a mixed race society, white and blacks or brown people living side by side.
I believe that the red figures are men and that the white figures are women. Minoan Crete is said to be an ancient matriarchal society. This is farther evidence that king Minos never existed.
Marvin Critchlow, this was actually an artistic device to distinguish between men and women. Men were red, women were white. We don't know the reason behind this practice, but it's suspected it is related to a religious belief about the essence of men and women.
This is incorrect. Arthur Evans re-constructed all that you see except for the ruins. The throne IS real and was excavated but the rest of the rooms were re-constructed. All of the frescoes were in tiny pieces and Evans has been criticized for the liberties he took with the re-construction. Especially his use of concrete. He also claimed that Linear B couldn't be Greek but Michael Ventries proved him wrong in 1952. He claimed the Minoans were the Big Guys in the Aegean not the Myceneans. Well they HAD BEEN the Big Guys until around 1400 then the Myceneans invaded and took over. He would have been mortified had he been alive when Ventries proved him wrong.
muffin6369 I agree most of Evans’ reconstruction was inspired by his imagination so it’s not entirely accurate. The irony is that Ventris was inspired by Evans lecture at the age of 14 to decipher Linear B! To bad he died while trying to decipher Linear A 😔
When I die, I want them to dress me in bird feathers, with a hat made from a crocodile skull, strap my hands to a hammer and a frying pan, and bury me in a peat bog.
no doubt for me, especially the part were the atlantis myth talked about a city that "disappeared" under the sea. When a volcano cauldron miles around collapses in can sink into the magma and melts and disappears under the earth's crust under the ocean this scenario happened in indonesia. imagine the mediteranean waters fighting with an opening in the earth's crust pourring magma for days and creating huge clouds of water vapour leading to torrential rains, deluge and sudden change of temperatures.
This channel says, "We make history come alive!" Nope. You've stolen all the videos from the History Channel series entitled, "Secrets of Archaeology", removed the beginning and end credits, and claimed it as your own work.
The Ancient Minoans Aegean Empire?How can they prove thay? By myths?So few things were found in the remains.Are the remains real Greek cities or kingdoms?Maybe they were cities or colonies of Egypt or Hittite.The cities Greek mythology described including cities in North Africa, Greece and Anatolina.
+xiayi Yeon Archeologists have discovered written documents in Linear A and B from the Minoan period . Linear B has been partially deciphered and is a Greek language. Linear A has not been translated yet. Homer mentions the Cretan tribes and I am sorry to disapoint you but there is no connection between the Minoans and the Hittites or the Egyptian.
smilycat3a Calling it Crete civilization is ok. But if we still cannot find the connection between Crete civilization and Greek civilization, it will be go too far to call it Minoan civilization. Did Minoan a real kingdom really exist in Crete island? Or it is a story described in Greek mythology? I doubt it because some fake recovery enginerring can be found in Crete islands. Many people know that, Inventing the Minoans: Archaeology, Modernity and the Quest for European Identity www.academia.edu/4924449/Inventing_the_Minoans_2005 I also think that calling the remain of a ancient city found in Anatolia "Troy" according to epic poem is also ridiculous. How can people know it is Troy or Greek city? I doubt that did people find anything related to Greek civilization in the remains of so called Troy city? There are many theories about Minoan civilization and Linear A.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_A I remeber that Linear A can be found in other places like Phoenician. Sorry. I think there were many fake theories invented in 18th century for European Identity. I think people really find too few things in Mycenaean Greece. The records of Linear B even cannot tell us much about Mycenaean Greece or they belong to Mycenaean Greece. Maybe people call it Mycenaean Greece according the predicted time of ancient legends.
+xiayi Yeon I told you about Homer . The tribes that lived on Crete are mentioned in his poems. There is no mention of Egyptian or Hittites..... However there is some connection between Minoans and Phoenicians. Minoans might have been a mixture, of a branch of Phoenician people, that migrated to the island, and the local Neolithic people that have already been living there. Nobody really knows how the Minoans used to call themselves. The written Linear A documents from that time have not been deciphered yet. But we have visual records. There is wall paintings and floor mosaics that reveal to us how Minoan people looked like. You see dark skinned people and white skinned people. We know that there was mixing of two different colors, that produced the Meditarenean people. This mixing of colors however happened 5000 to 4500 years ago. And not now, as some nationalistic idiots are trying to present nowadays. I know nothing about faking historic records. And we don't care at all about European identity in my country.....while nationalistic groups all over the world, try so hard to assume Greek identity.......and this is the paradox of this story.......lol...... You are wrong about the Linear B ( Mycenean) Achean records. There is a lot of information in Linear B documents about the Acheans city states of that era. Much to everybody's surprise, the names of the Achean kings and the names of the city states in these documents, are the same that Homer describes in his poems!!....There is no proof that Troy was a Greek city. Why do you say this? The main Greek tribes mentioned in Homer were the Acheans , the Dorians, and the Ionians..... These three main Greek tribes spoke the three Hellenic (Greek) dialects that comprise the Hellenic language. They are the Acheans, the ones that the Europeans wrongly call (Mycenean). Those are the ones that descended in the Greek peninsula around 1500BC. The Dorians that also started descending from the north around 1100BC. Dark haired and dark complexion Hercules was the forefather of this second tribe. And the Ionians that lived at the coast of Asia Minor and made colonies all around the Meditteranean. Homer also mentions the Pelasgians as one of the tribes that inhabited Crete with the Minoans. Pelasgian are not mentioned as a Greek tribe though. They originated from Poenicia and it is not excactly certain if they were white people....lol....Pelasgian are the most obscure people in human history. For this reason they are used by a lot of nationalistic groups around the world as their ancestors. Having said all this . I want you to know that this is the longest text I have written on line . I hope I have given you the information you need . And I do not wish to discuss any further. Bye
smilycat3a Bye.... Thank you for information. People often doubt the reality about the epic poems. I cannot find the detail information of what recorded in Linear B ( Mycenean) Achean records in Internet. So, I have no idea about the reality of Mycenean Greece. I remembet that Homer's epic poem described that people in Troy worshiped Greek gods. The connection between Anatolia and Greece can be found by the style of buildings and others.So, I think it may be a Greek city. I think there was some connections among all Meditarenean people and civilizations. Greek mythology often described some cities outside Greece.
+xiayi Yeon Yeah I realise now that I take things for granted ......Linear B study is still going on right now, but it is confined to university department professors and students only. I can have better access to this research being a native speaker, but I should have thought that, if you look it up really hard , you can come up with the same information I do, on line. It must be really confusing to a foreigner to remember all these names written in a foreign language. And there might be misinterpetations and confusion at the beginning. And the best solution will be to learn Greek, I'm afraid. Both modern and ancient Greek!! ....lol......another solution will be to find a serious native speaker to guide you through this maze of information......but sadly I can not be available for this job , not on a full time basis...... I could only give you some guide lines occasionally of course.....but that's all about it .....you have to do the serious study all by yourself!!
Excellent documentary. Thank You! However, your basic premise that this was a peaceful society is wrong. There were some 60 city states on Minoan Crete and they competed and really disliked each other. This peaceful myth has been disproven by more recent archaeological work, but it has been a very popular one for the baby boomer generation!
Time for the end of Minoan civilization seem to differ. Thera eruption is dated around 1600 bc, not 1500 bc. End of Minoans said to be 50 years after the eruption, i.e. 1550 bc, and also circa 1400 bc. Something's not right here. As eruption took place ca 1600 bc (acc to ice core dating in 1628 bc), if Minoan culture ended ca 1400, obviously the eruption could not have ended their civilization.
The horse, body armor, composite bow bronze making tools and weapons arrived in Mesopotamia. The Levant, Egypt etc.around 1600-1450. That was basically the Thera time. Remember the horse was not native to that area, and they don't usually stray 1000's of miles, someone had to of brought them down. Thera I think was the reason they came down from the far north. Thera would have made a very cold year. They are possibly who the Hysko's were. They know they were who brought horses and armor.
The Cretans (here called Minoans) were Greeks. This has been proved. The legend of the Minotaur was created by the Athenians as propaganda (you got this part right). The buildings in Akrotiri don't look like anything else because the Minoan Eruption devastated all of Greece. Immediately after the eruption came tsunamis and heavy rain for days. The tidal waves didn't travel only to the south. In Cesme, a human and a dog tsunami victims of that time have been found. The few survivors could not preserve the buildings. Those in Akrotiri were covert in pumice. The Greeks had to start from scratch. The memory is preserved in the myth of the flood of Deucalion (the source that Deucalion lived in the 16th century is the Parian Chronicle). The whole "Atlantis" thing is uneducated. The Mycenaeans were not ancestors of the Greeks, they were Hellenes. They didn't subdue anyone, they just filled the void. We changed our name from "Greeks" to "Hellenes" after the flood of Deucalion. (source: Apollodorus 1.7.3)
i spent half the documentory screaming MINE-otaur! its named after king MINE-ose not king MEN-ose still good to find a documentory about the past that isnt waer war war war
This is the thing that irritates me. This is so Eurocentric. And that’s fine because it’s Europeans telling the story of Europeans but I hope people realize the embellishments. Greece is often credited as being the ‘cradle of western civilization.’ They undoubtedly had a part in it but they were not the originators of the way of life of the “West.” Greece took a lot from the Minoans. The Minoans, while unique in their own right, got a lot from Egypt. Persia was more western than Greece ever was. Persia got its civilization from Sumer. Sumer got theirs from Kemet, or Egypt, for the Europeans. And Kemet got their civilization from Kush. At the same time India had a few civilizations that are still, for the most part, lost today. Europe didn’t invent anything about civilization. In fact, Europeans were the last to become civilized relatively speaking. Europeans like to use the written word as objective proof. But that is a flawed system. Do you know how much knowledge has been lost throughout human history? Entire libraries burned to the ground. Kings burning books and scripts that tell the history of their enemies and their conquered peoples.
Sumer actually came before Kemet (Egypt). Most others came after. Ancient civilizations from & around what's call Greece did create & accomplish wonderful things, so modern Western Europeans love them more.
Kerwin Williamson How do you know Sumer came before Kush and Kemet? That is a serious question. We know that Africans refused to write down their history. In about 3,500 BC Lower Egypt and Upper Egypt ‘Merged’ but there is no mention of the creation of either. Plus, there was a civilization in modern day India that predates Sumer. But they also did not write their accounts down. They left cave paintings though. But does that mean that it didn’t happen because they didn’t write it down? Writing down history was the invention of Herodotus, a Greek, over 7,000 years after the civilization in India.
Kerwin Williamson th-cam.com/video/zmAYV42Ibeo/w-d-xo.html There was a civilization 10,000 years ago in India. (Some have been found from 17,000 years ago.) That’s way before Sumer. They were herding animals. We know this because the animals they were herding weren’t from that area. They were from Africa. Africans had civilizations in India over 5,000 years before Sumer existed. The European was the last to the party. Do not take the Europeans word on histories that they had nothing to do with. They were basically Neanderthals still when this was happening.
@@sincityquinn chances are there was civilization 10,000 years ago somewhere, but what does anyone mean by civilization (expert or not)? I previous remark came from what little I've learned bro, not to knock you. Check out a book called The 12th Planet (all of it might not be a fact yet, but interesting to read).
Kerwin Williamson I know. I didn’t take it as you knocking me. I just know how effected people are by the ignorance of Europeans. They represent their misinterpretations as historical fact.
I think the production on this video is great, but we really need to stop making shit up about the Minoans. Or at least need to stop pretending these theories are facts. We don’t know anything for sure about Minoans and won’t until Linear A is deciphered. All this “the women were liberated, and the king was just and fair, and the palace was democratically organized” is just a bunch of guesses (and wishful thinking), not fact. I’d like to remind everyone that historians made the same guesses about the Ancient Greeks’ society, because of how many important goddesses and prominent female characters there were in their myths… and then Linear B was deciphered. We don’t know anything until their written language provides primary sources.
I recently made a short film covering the Cycladic Culture for fellow enthusiasts of the Early Bronze Age Aegean. Here it is: th-cam.com/video/RvDJPbkncFI/w-d-xo.html
I was interested in this until the claims of King Minos, women, etc. The Linear A language has NOT been unlocked yet so we have no idea if anything about this culture period!
THE MINOANS HAVE GREEK ORIGIN. THE MINOANS SPOKEN THE HELLENIC LANGUAGE . THE MINOANS ARE GREEKS-HELLENES. ALL THE ANCIENT HELLENES HISTORIANS SAY HOW THE MINOANS HAVE HELLENIC ORIGIN
SHQIPËT ARI JAN Shqiptari Ahahahahahahahaha!😂😂😂 You people are hilarious! I know that having mental issues is something serious but the things you believe are better than aliens hiding in area51😂😂😂 Tell us how the Earth is flat please 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
SHQIPËT ARI JAN Shqiptari Very true! Ah the ancient Albanians! What a civilization! They gave us democracy,, theater, philosophy!! 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱 who’s you’re favorite ancient Sqiptari? Mine is Platoni and Herodoti. 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🦅🦅💪💪💪
Ha! The minator was Baal and the sacrificed 14 ppl a year ona mountain/volcano or burnt to death on an altar. The island was a holiday resort for the Phoenician elites and priests(hence the bull). It was where Sargon got his power. They were originally living on the coast of turkey(via dna) and Finnic dna. They didn’t need war or slaves like other places. All goods came from Phoenicia etc so slaves and armies were not needed. They ruled the seas, not the land
Sin City Quinn You seem to be very knowledgeable but your understanding of Greek and Middle Eastern History and the words which have come to be used by Roman and later writers has clouded your understanding of history as it has for countless millions of others To give you a for instance the first Indians were From the Greco/Atlantean world the word Indian is Greek The Egyptians to were descendants of the Greeks as their Pharaoh’s and upper class returned to the abode of the Gods and underworld which was in Greece
I think the people who made this video that claim to know so much about this civilization as a matter of fact are the same ones who try to sell us the history of Egypt! lol
There was no Atlantis , It was a lie made by the Greeks yo show that they were the earliest civilisation. The Minoans went to Egypt , India and masopotamia after the eruption.
Mighty Sikh The first Indians were Greek As for Atlantis what would you know not much Ancient Greeks didn’t lie Do you ever listen to what you are reading
Pansa P Atlantis was Greek History and not a metaphor do you think Plato and Socrates were stupid They believed in the Historicity of the Account of Solon
@@ddpp1420 If Solon was a real historical figure. The Solon of the Timaeus is a pure literary creation as well as the Egyptian priest (who is often used in Ancient Greek literature, just a figure of style). The Atlantis represents the confrontation by Platon between two image of the city (here Athens) : the dykis and the ubris.
Pansa P I discovered Atlantis using these so called hypothetical people following their words of which I can guarantee were not imaginary Understanding the Words All this hoo Ha about allegories and metaphors belittles the integrity of our ancient ancestors All these experts who think the Ancient Greek writers were somehow complicit in writing fictional stories because ancient history is to difficult to understand by some and others trying to make a name for themselves by questioning their integrity
I've done my research and watched videos about it from many different sources to build my own opinion about it. It's YOU that needs to explain to me how they did the pyramids. To answer you shortly: They didn't have the technology to lift the weight of the blocks, also getting them from the source to the "pyramid" was a huge distance.
Crete. Home of rhe hyksos. The future hebrew jews. But not before they achieved fame as the brutal sea people. Who also gave birth to romulus abd remus. Yeah. The jews footprint in history is astounding
Another baseless claim made by someone who has to ignore facts to fit into their own simplistic and ethnocentric world view. Yeah sure dude. Moses was black, Jesus was black, and so were Julius Caesar, Alexander, Napoleon and George Washington, Kublai Khan and Emperor Hirohito. Give me a break dude.
Knossos Palace was reconstructed and the paintings are also a reconstruction from what Arthur Evans imagined what it would be, they're NOT the original paintings! The original name of Santorini was Thera!
They are reconstructions based on real pieces already found. It is fairly accurate to what it would be. However later, there was burn damage. Btw. Sir Arthur Evans got his "imaginings" from philosoohers, ephemerists, and writers of ancient greece and rome. So he didn't pull everything out of his ass.
Such a good documentary! No annoying background noises or loud music. No cheesy re-enactments. Lots of simple panoramic camera work. The narrator has a smooth voice. Hard to find many like this
Patrick King I made one about Cycladic Culture that fits your description. Have a look if you’d like!
th-cam.com/video/RvDJPbkncFI/w-d-xo.html
I dont mean to be so off topic but does anybody know of a tool to log back into an instagram account..?
I was stupid forgot my password. I would appreciate any help you can give me
I too like old school docos
This Channel has great documentaries - they leave me hungry for more ...
Thanks for posting these wonderful docs! They're terrific!!!
From analyzing ancient DNA, it was discovered that modern Greeks are descendant of ancient Mycenaeans, which are also closely related to Minoans. Researchers suggest that this can be explained by the migration of the earliest farmers who sailed across the Aegean, a crossroads of civilizations.
History is very fascinating, no matter what type of history it is that you are learning about within history.
this video was very helpful, thank u for uploading it
Excellent text and summary of a vital piece of world history that would have been lost forever, but for Evans and his passion.
The island of Santorini was already half missing during the last great explosiΜαίon. It submerged thousands of years before that, forming a huge port, conntrolled by the people of Akroteree. That's why it was called "kallisti neesos" (the most beatiful island), cause it provided at those times the amazing view that it does also nowadays.
The Minoan civilization thrived from 3650 BC till 1400 BC. Around 1600 BC the eruption of Thira, caused the Minoan civilization, to decline. The Minoan civilization was the most advanced bronze age civilization in the world and unparalleled in almost every way. from palaces, flush toilets, roads, advanced 5-7 storey buildings, with toilets on every floor. sewerage and drainage systems, incredible unparalleled art, etc.
The Mycenaean civilization took over around 1400 BC marking the end of the Minoans. The Minoan civilization thrived for over 2000 years. Minoan cities like Phaestos dates to 4000 BC and the largest city Knossos history can be traced back to 7000 BC. Pottery started from 6500 BC.
In other words, the Minoans thrived in 1600 BC before the volcanic explosion, but so did the Minoans thrive in 1800 BC 2000 BC 2400 BC 2800 BC 3000 BC etc.
Starting from 2000 BC the Minoans started building Palaces.
The Minoan civilization was one of the 3 Bronze Age civilizations in the Aegean/ Greece.
-Minoan Civilization ( 3650 BC-1400 BC)
-Helladic Period (3300 BC - 1800 BC)
-Cycladic Civilization (3300 BC - 2000 BC)
Interesting India has been telling the western scientists for ages the we had great cities and advanced ed civilisation before the human origins of the bible 5000 history haha lol. The myths in India say floods put great Indian cities went underwater long time ago.i dnt c how fast these great these civilisations became in such short human history. Saraswati(9000bc) and Indus(3300) civilisations definitely predate human history of western scientists .they had also in India great cities,great baths,dancing girls,astronomy,maths,well ratio measurements in building :) even the sound of the sun was known which is omn :) elora canes,angor watt,temples of India cudnt have been built in a few thousand years of human history.what else we don't know ? Is the earth realy as round as those nasa images? haha lol.
shashi sharma What is your point?
In India there are many sayings and (exaggerated) stories just like in Bollywood, but in reality they aren't really true are they?
Jealousy is also a very common thing.
1). India is by far not the worlds oldest civilization and beyond all certainty by far not the most influential civilization. Ancient Greece's Influence is found in every corner of the world, in every civilization. Even the name India is a Greek word and your main language that connects all Indian peoples is present-day English.
Again exaggerated stories from people with (primarily) Indian background, only investigating their own history and not those from other regions in the world.
That's why ridiculous claims because of lack of education are made. I'll tell you why:
2). To start: Turkey(Anatolia), Greece, Greek Island of Cyprus, Levant region, has a much older life span of civilization.
In Turkey alone (which was less than 600 years ago, Greek, just like Pakistan now with India) every year many 4000-10000 BC cities and sites are found.
Turkey holds the oldest temple in the world (10.000 BC) and Catalhoyuk (7000 BC) the largest and best preserved neolithic city in the world.
Next to this Greece and Turkey hold the most archaeological sites in the world.
-News from recent for instance: A new palace from 4500 BC: archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.nl/2014/09/chalcolithic-palace-unearthed-at.html?Feed:+TheArchaeologyNewsNetwork+(The+Archaeology+News+Network)
First of all. Classical Greece was the brightest era of human civilization, with the most powerful impact to this world today. Not only are 8 out of 10 most influential people in the world Greek, not Indian
pantheon.media.mit.edu/rankings/people/all/all/-4000/2010/H15
- The entire foundation of the western world (60% of the world) is Greek up to very strong influences in central Asia and the Indian subcontinent,
Not to forget that Ancient Greece, profoundly influenced central Asia and India, through Greco- Bactrian Kingdom that existed 400 years long. As Ancient Greece has Sculptures, architecture, Jewelry, Art, Theatre that was unrivaled to anywhere in the world, this resulted in the great transmission of Greek knowledge to Central Asia and India.
- Did you know that the Buddha was made by first in Greek? And that for 1000 years long the Greek Buddha was the largest stream in Central Asia and Indian Subcontinent?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhist_art
-To theatre (which was also invented in Greece together with Drama, comedy, satire, and so on) "The earliest form of the theatre of India was the Sanskrit theatre.[1] It began after the development of Greek and Roman theatre and before the development of theatre in other parts of Asia."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_of_India
- all the way to Astronomy
"For example, Hellenistic astronomy is known to have been practiced near India in the Greco-Bactrian city of Ai-Khanoum from the 3rd century BCE. Various sun-dials, including an equatorial sundial adjusted to the latitude of Ujjain have been found in archaeological excavations there.Numerous interactions with the Mauryan Empire, and the later expansion of the Indo-Greeks into India suggest that transmission of Greek astronomical ideas to India occurred during this period"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_astronomy
- to the coinage system that also was invented in Greece that indirectly introduced this to India and during the 400 years of Hellenistic spread of knowledge, heavily influenced India. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_of_the_Indo-Greeks
-And the list goes on and on. But not only that. The most advanced pieces of technical engineering unparalleled to anywhere else in the world also comes from the Greeks. Of which the antikythera is a very strong example of and named as the first analog computer in the world, able to calculate the movements of the stars, predict eclipses, and so on. Completely unheard of in the ancient world and a truly uparalleled phenomenom. www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-technology/incredible-inner-workings-ancient-antikythera-mechanism-explained-001066
- to Heron the greatest experimenter of ancient time, invented the first robotics, Pneumatism, to the invention of the steam engine, automatic doors, elevators, steam cannon, to hydraulics, Automata, Mechanica, Catoptrica, Stereometrica, (heron of Alexandria: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_Alexandria ).
-Also not only is the Greek language the oldest living continuous Indo-European language in the world www.humanjourney.us/images/indoEuropeanTree.gif
- but also the richest language in the world with 5 million words.Even stated by Guinnes book of Records. And with 70 million words when combining it with the Scientific, Medical and Astronomical world of which Greek is the foundation of.
www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2010/09/with-five-million-words-greek-is-worlds.html
www.explorers-journal.com/we-all-speak-greek/
- And not only that. Greek language has an immense influence on most other Indo-European languages in the world. 54.000 words in the English language is Greek of origin. The only language in India that connects all groups of peoples with different languages that otherwise cannot communicate. English language has become thus the primary language in India. EVEN the name India itself is Greek. If I say ego, (=I or me), or telephone (tele=far, phonos=sound) or when I say Philosophy (Philos=friend or love, sophia = wisdom = love for wisdom) or Pediatrician (pedia= children), and so on an so on.
And also, the architecture, jewellery, art of the Greeks in the ancient world is unparalleled. Go research. There is nothing of archaeological evidences of sculptures, gold or other jewellery in Ancient India at the time of Ancient Greeks or before that, that even comes close to that of ancient Greece. The Greeks spread this knowledge to India after Alexander the Great conquered the region, and only then do you see a spark of new forms of artistic levels in India from 6th century AD onwards.
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Now the Indus valley civilization. The Indus valley civilization(3000-1900 BC) was a collection of Cultures living in the Indus Valley and was an advanced bronze age civilization in what is now Pakistan. Also before bronze age India there are some notable archaeological sites, among them are one of the earliest evidence in India, the farm village from Mehrgarh 7000 BC, the Neolithic Eddakal caves 6000 BC, the Bhimbetka Rockshelters 10.000 BC-2500 BC. Although these are old, there are not many archaeological sites of these kinds.
But so did the Greeks. Very simplified the history periods of Greece is
- Byzantium Greece, 300 AD -1453 AD
- Classical Greece is roughly 800 - 65 BC
- Greece Dark Ages 1200 - 800 BC
- Mycenae (from the legends of Troy) 2000 - 1200 BC
To the 3 bronze age civilizations
- Cycladic 3300 BC - 2000BC
- Helladic 3200 BC -1400 BC
- Minoan 3650-1400 BC
of which the Minoans where incredibly advanced. With incredible 5-7 storey high palaces, cities with sewerage systems, plumbing systems, central heating, roads, urban planning and toilets in every (multistorey) house even in the 2nd and 3rd floor. With high complex architecture to withstand earthquakes, and unparalleled art that you (again) won't find anywhere in the world in the Bronze age era (just like Classical Greece in Ancient times). This is also where the stories of Atlantis comes from. The archaeological site of Knossos was already inhabited since 7000BC
www.minoanatlantis.com/pix/Minoan_Knossos_Palace_Reconstruction_1.jpg
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Akrotiri_ship-procession-full_02.jpg paintings
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Knossos_-_North_Portico_02.jpg palace
ant3145crete.wikispaces.com/file/view/Knossos_1.jpg/68392549/Knossos_1.jpg palace
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Disque_de_Phaistos_A.jpg
kbagdanov.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/min-1.jpg palaces
www.dartmouth.edu/~prehistory/aegean/wp-content/flagallery/lesson17/17-15.jpg 3 storey houses
fashionhistory.zeesonlinespace.net/images/minoan1.gif paintings
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In other words. people fail to understand that Greece's history is far far larger than "just" Classical Greece. But because Classical Greece has an unparalleled influence on this world, overshadows the other timeperiods of Greece. It's because of the Minoan Greek time period, that Classical Greece was so far ahead of it's time beyond others.
And Greece's time period does not stop there. It goes deeper than this:
the rest of the history of Greece.
1). THE OLDEST WRITING IN THE WORLD. GREEK ALPHABET WAS IN USE IN 6000 BC PREDATING INDIAN, EGYPT, MESOPOTAMIA WRITING, BY 3000-3500 YEARS.
The oldest writing found on the planet is the DISPILIO TABLET in Greece. Which dates to 5300 BC. Found in the lake of Kastoria in Greece (found in1993), called
the Dispilio tablet with the first linear writing from 5300BC pre-dating Egyptian, Indian and Sumerian writings by 2300 to 3000 years.
archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.nl/2012/07/prehistorc-tablet-calls-into-question.html#.UoS9lYguiRM
www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-europe/dispilio-tablet-oldest-known-written-text-00913
greece.greekreporter.com/2012/07/16/7270-year-old-tablet-found-in-kastoria-calls-into-question-history-of-writing/
These Linear writings are SIMILAR to the writings of today. In other words the GREEK ALPHABET was in use 6000BC, as ALL European languages are Linear(alphabetical) writings
Another amazing finds are the YURA potteries in Central Greece. These contain again even older than the Dispilio writings from 5500-6000BC. MORE IMPORTANTLY. The postsherds contains letters of the Greek alphabet, that is in use today. Making it the oldest in use language in the world
www.hellinon.net/NeesSelides/greek_alphabet_was_in_use_at_600.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youra_Potsherds
newsarc.net/showthread.php/soc.history.ancient/Greek%20Alphabet%20Was%20In%20Use%20At%206000%20BC/1124718413.326882.281460@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
These predating for example earliest Indian writing by over 3000-4000 years.
These Yura Potteries together with the Displilio tablet are the oldest writings on earth.
These Archaeological finds will change the history of the world
This extremely old writings fit the following finding that archaeologists have done for the last 4 years. For they found an incredibly advanced 8000 year old civilization that had buildings and multi storey houses. Which can be seen as the forefather of the incredibly advanced Minoan civilization from 3650 BC - 1300 BC.
2).NEW REMARKABLY 8000 YEAR OLD ADVANCED CIVILIZATION FOUND IN 2013-2014, GREECE (6000BC)
"The discovery reflects an incredibly advanced civilization existing in northern Greece 8,000 years ago." (Already 54 settlements have been discovered)
www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/accidental-discovery-8000-year-old-settlements-and-necropolis-greece-001531
And the 60+ settlements, cities,villages of 8000 years ago fits with the 7300 year old Dispilio tablet writing and the 8000 year old Yura potteries writings.
And these fit within the next things:
3). PAVLOPETRI, THE OLDEST SUNKEN CITY IN THE WORLD, WITH INCREDIBLE URBAN CITY PLANNING THAT MATCHES AND EXCEEDS THAT OF SOME CITIES TODAY. THE CITY IS AT LEAST 5000 YEARS OLD.
THERE ARE FEW OLDER SUNKEN SITES IN THE WORLD BUT NONE CAN BE CONSIDERED TO BE PLANNED CITIES SUCH AS THIS, WHICH IS WHY IT IS UNIQUE.
Greece has a coastline of 16.000 km.
60% of all cities in Greece today, have been found close to the sea.
Greece's geography is very diverse with 6000 islands and diverse mainland. There have already been found many cities in the sea such as Pavlopetri (5000+ year old) which is the oldest submerged archaeological town site in the world, complete with incredibly advanced urban planning compared to and even better than some cities today:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlopetri
www.bbc.com/news/magazine-15191614
4). OLDEST GOLDSMITHING IN THE WORLD
Or the oldest gold smithing in the world over 4600-4200BC in South Bulgaria/Greece. www.pacmusee.qc.ca/en/exhibitions/varna-worlds-first-gold-ancient-secrets
ancientstandard.com/2007/08/02/gold-of-the-dead-ca-4600-%E2%80%93-4200-bc/
5). PETRALONA MAN 800.000 BC -700.000 BC (Oldest human found in Europe), Greece
www.ancient-origins.net/human-origins-science/human-skull-challenges-out-africa-theory-001283
6). OLDEST USE OF FIRE IN THE WORLD 700.000 BC, Greece
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petralona_cave
7). OLDEST SEA NAVIGATION IN THE WORLD, GREECE 130.000 BC,
www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-technology/ancient-navigation-130000-years-ago-00963
8). OLDEST SWASTIKA'S IN THE WORLD IN THE BALKANS
The Swastika symbol is used in many civilizations. Some Indians (without knowledge of their history and that of other countries) have fantasized that they so-called created it, but that is always without facts and wrong. The oldest evidence of swastika in India is from 2500 BC.
The oldest swastika found in the world is in Ukraine 10.000BC.
www.slavorum.com/forum/index.php?topic=1856.0
-Then Vinca culture in Balkans(Greece, Bulgaria etc) used the swastika continuously from 6500BC for over 2000 years long. The oldest ever found swastika in India is from 2500BC. The swastika is even used in the Vinca script of 7000-6000BC, which predates Indus valley script (2600-1900BC) by 4000-5000 years.
aleximreh.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/swastika-in-the-vinca-script-6000-7000-bc/
9). THEOPETRA, KALAMBAKA, Greece 130.000 BC
With Oldest man made structure (23.000 BC) on the planet
visitmeteora.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/theopetra-cave-inhabited-by-humans-130-000-years-ago/
archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.nl/2010/03/oldest-man-made-structure-found-in.html#.VjU23LerTRY
10). FRANCHTHI 25.000 BC, Greece
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11). KLIMONAS 9100 BC, Greek island of Cyprus
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klimonas
12). SHILLOUROKAMBOS 8500 BC, Greek island of Cyprus
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13). KHIROKITIA 7000BC,Greek island of Cyprus
Khirokitia
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14). SESKLO 6850 BC (among 60 settlements from 7th-8th millennium BC), Greece
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15). DIKILI TASH 6500BC, WITH 6200 YEAR OLD WINE MAKING, North Greece
Winemaking of 6200 year old
Dikili Tash (Greece)
16). PYRAMID, ARGOS, GREECE 2720BC
Pyramid in Argos, Greece
17). MAKRIYIALOS, 5500 BC, Greece
www.ime.gr/chronos/01/images/gallery/nl/makryg/makrig2.gif
18). DISPILIO 5300BC - 4500BC Kastoria, Greece
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19). DIMINI 4800 BC, With earliest fortifications 3400 BC, Greece
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimini
www.figurines.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/dimini_anaktoro1.jpg
20). NEA NIKOMEDEIA, 6700 BC, Greece
www.elinos.gr/images/area1.jpg
21). MAROULAS, KYTHNOS, 9500 BC, Greece
www.kythnos.gr/en/content/history/100-centuries/
www.kythnos.gr/images/history/Xerolithies3.JPG
www.gtp.gr/MGfiles/location/image14717[7343].jpg
22). Sitagroi, 5500 BC, Greece
www.ime.gr/chronos/02/mainland/images/eh/habitation/max/sitagr.gif
www.sitagroi-dramas.gr/data/storage/attachments/f40f757947675221d68cdfd02efbdac5.jpg
23). ARGISSA 6600 BC, Greece
sup.kathimerini.gr/kath/engs/img/LIFE/2011/01/greecesrich.jpg
24). MAVROPIGI, 7660 BC, Greece
antiquity.ac.uk/projgall/mentessidi336/images/figure3big.jpg
e-ptolemeos.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ANASKAFI-MAVROPIGI.jpg
25). Phaestos, Crete, 4000 BC, Greece
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaistos
www.dartmouth.edu/~prehistory/aegean/wp-content/flagallery/lesson12/12-26.jpg
www.greek-islands.us/heraklio/knossos/Phaistos-Palace.jpg
www.greeceathensaegeaninfo.com/a-greece-travel/a-maps/crete-phaistos-plan-lg.jpg
26). -KALAMAKIA, Greece 80.000 BC,
- LAKONIS, Greece 100.000 BC, www.amna.gr/english/articleview.php?id=2773
- APIDIMA,Greece 300.000 BC,
- Alonnisos Greece, 120.000 BC,
- Ochre mines, Thasos, Greece 20.300 BC
- Piges tou Angiti, Greece 30.000 BC
- Kleidi, Epirus, Greece 16.000 BC
- Boila, Epirus, Greece 14.000 BC
27). SKARKOS 3000 BC, Ios, Greece
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28). Agios Andreas, Sifnos, Greece
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29). Kalavasos Tenta 7000 BC
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30). Akrotiri-Aetokremnos 10.500 BC
Promachonas, 5300 BC
Aravissos, 4500 BC
Rachmani 4500 BC
Ayia Varvara Asprokremnos 9000 BC
Soufli Magoul 6500 BC
Ayia Sophia, Larisa, 4500 BC
Ayios Georgios, 6500-5800BC
Magoula Asimochoma 5300 BC
Platia Magoula Zarkou 5300 BC
Prodromos, Karditsa 6500 BC
Tzani Magoula 5800 BC
Ais Yiorkis 7800 BC
Magoula Visviki 5300 BC
Magoula Karamourlar 6500 BC
Kataliondas- Kourvellos 8000 BC
Magoula Sarantaporo 5800 BC
Lianokladi, Phthiotis 5800 BC
Aria, Argolid 4500 BC
Ayia Marina, Phocis 5300 BC
Lerna 5800 BC
Sphakovouni, Arcadia 4500 BC
Ayios Dimitrios, Triphylia 4500 BC
Myrina, Lemnos 5300 BC
Saliagos 5300 BC
Yiali, Nisyros 4500 BC
Sotira 5000 BC
Ierapetra 5800 BC
- And many many more, Mitrou, Knossos, Achilleion, paradimi, Youra, Saliagos, Melos, Asea, Nemea, Corinth, Boeotia, Kitsos, Kephala, Eutretis, Elateia, Halai, Choirospillia, Otzaki, , Zarkou, Tsangly, Diros, Priniatikos Pyrgos, Kastros, Loutro, Kephala, Malia, ,Phylakopi Akrotiri, Sifnos, Agia Irini, Panormos, Kissonerga, Kavos Daskaleiou, Minoa, Keros, Strofilas, Psiloritis, ETC, Ranging from 11th millennium 3rd millennium BC
With 4 new great finds from last 2 months, september - oktober 2015:
-Massive 4500-5000 year old city found in Peloponese, Greece
www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/huge-ancient-greek-city-found-underwater-aegean-sea-003709
-22 ancient shipwrecks found in 13 days, Greece
news.discovery.com/history/archaeology/22-shipwrecks-found-in-single-greek-location-in-greece-151028.htm
-3600 year old Mycanenean palace
www.ekathimerini.com/200878/article/ekathimerini/news/archaeologists-making-exciting-discoveries-in-laconia
-3500 year old Mycaenean grave filled with 1400 gold, silver and bronze jewelry,weapons.
wthitv.com/2015/10/31/spectacular-3500-year-old-warriors-grave-found-in-greece/
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3291134/Ancient-warrior-s-tomb-laid-untouched-3-500-years-discovered-Greece-alongside-huge-hoard-treasure-including-gold-jewellery-signet-rings.html
So yes. Surely India has a very old civilization. But some people fail to realize that the world is a vast place, and that Greece, the biggest influence in the world, not only consists of "just" classical Greece, but that Greece's history and archaeological sites (and most museums in the world) are older and in far more abundance than that of India. And with every day incredible new finds are done in Greece from any time period.
And then we should not forget that there are more regions that have incredibly old history. If you count Turkey(Anatolia) (Turkey is for Greeks what Pakistan is for India), which was also Greek land until 550 years ago, has also incredibly old history beyond that of India. which is directly just like together with Greece the homeland of the Greeks.
Also Bulgaria (country bordering Greece) also has old history, up to the Levant and fertile crescent. Basically South East Europe (Greece, Bulgaria) the rest of the Eastern Mediterranean ( Anatolia (Turkey), Syria, Iraq, hold many many world records of firsts in the world, not seen anywhere else in the world nor in India
+Ptolemy336VV haha lol.sanskrit is older then Greek.and the Indus Valley older then Greek u need to study other history and not urs lol! Saraswati civilisation and dwarka predates u Minoans and Greeks. The oldest religion Sanskrit the biggest and advanced cities r found in India now haha lol
+Ptolemy336VV the Greeks r not older then the Indians haha lol.arristotle claimed even the Jews were an Indian tribe haha lol this is ur historian 😂
shashi sharma Your redundant Indian bloating was seen from a stinking mile away.|
And how funny. While I refer you to learn history from other nations and regions to know the place of Indian History.
While India is a vast place, only a tiny fraction of India houses India's older archaeological sites. While the East Mediterranean, Levant and Fertile Cresent is far older and has much more archaeological sites dated to before the Bronze age (3300BCE). The Greek island of Cyprus alone has older archaeological sites than the Entirity of India.
O an I am very familiar with India's archaeology. Much more so than 99,9% of all the Indians and given your reaction much more than you. For starters you have not even read anything I have written, before you should open your redundant low IQ mouth.
The Minoan remains of Knossos, although partly reconstructed, and the exquisites numerous artifacts of the museum of minoan civilization in Heraklion, cretr, are indeed one of the most fascinating remains to see in the world.
Great Narrative of Minoans, Santorini - informative documentary 10/20/22
This helped me with my homework
@Nathan Widman sup nathan
The Minotaur fable as presented here sounds like a Minoan version of what Sir James Frazer presents in his "The Golden Bough." A priest/King either getting sacrificed if his magic doesn't work to bring the annual harvest, or sacrificing someone else.
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It would be interesting what the Egyptians said about the Minoans. It would be awesome if there ever were a bilingual inscription that can help to translate linear A
the early peoples of Crete and Greek Isles are of much interest to me, the migrations of the early Neolithic Farmers and the cultures that grew in that period of time are a great study.
Knossos Palace was reconstructed and the paintings are also a reconstruction from what Arthur Evans imagined what it would be, they're NOT the original paintings!
The original name of Santorini was Thera!
Nono nare... Some of the most beautyful and well known frescoes of Knossos palace were painted in vivid colors by two Suiss amateur painters, the ...bros.
Yes, however deteriorated, there's no shortage of minoan-like frescoes, as far as Egypt and Israel.
Thank you - your response got me thinking. If there are no surviving written records, how do we know it was a democratic society? How do we know everything centered on joy?. It might have been the norm to only paint happy faces for some religious reason? If there was trade with other entities, how come there are so very few (given the length of time it survived) articles from other countries?
watching this after playing AC odyssey, the building looks like the one in Thera Island just above Pephka with minotaur missions
I'm playing it again.
This seems dumbed down like a lot of American documentaries. It relies a lot on unproven conjecture, like the idea that there was an actual King Minos and that he was represented on that vase, or that the Minoans loved life and frivolity. The Mycenaeans were an early form of Greeks, they weren't just the ancestors of the Classical Greeks.
There were some interesting points, like about the Phaistos Disc.
That's the way it goes till somebody proves something different.
It's possible that Minis was more a title than a person
The legend was that Athens owed a tribute every year to King Minos of 9 maidens and young men.. who jumped over the bull horns ,flipped onto its back , them flip off the back to the ground behind the bull. I grew upon Crete and it is indeed a paradise! The Museum of Heraklion has vast exhibits of frescoes and double headed axes, statues etc. I lived just a few miles from Knossos and went there many times. As a child you could still sit on the stone throne in one of the rooms . The legend is that Minos’ wife fell in love with a beautiful white bull and the Minotaur ( which was half human half bull) was laced in the prison of the labyrinth. There is a large stone statue of bull horns on the edge of the perimeter .It is a n area prone to earthquakes.
beautifully executed
What's the name of the documentary?
Minonas and Egyptians are distance relatives through culture and history.
Best reconstruction i've seen so far
"Life was peaceful and idyllic all the time for the Minoans" (until disaster struck) - sounds like they used to say about the Mayans - they had "peace, harmony and just sat around worshipping time". Then we learn of sacrifice, self mutilation, war...
it is said that because there have not been found elements of conflicts.. also in egyptian incriptions it seems that there are peaceful and trade relations.. thats why it is said that. of course there mye have been done conflicts that are unknown untill now.
Someone needs to instigate a present day revival of Minoan fashion trends.
Amen to that! Free the nipple!
I have long been intrigued how it happened that exposing women's breast started being considered taboo, since nothing of the sort ever applied to men. I mean, I get the dislike of the genitalia but why breasts, especially seeing as women used them to feed infant babies.
Well, my theory is that together with the rise of civilizations it became common for women of the elite to wear dresses that would simply keep their breasts up, rather than dragging them down and hurting their backs. Of course the poor wouldn't be able to afford such a thing. So maybe in time wearing a breast-covering dress became associated with wealth and prestige and when virtually every woman started wearing it, it became considered indecent to do otherwise.
Seems like a sound and interesting theory.
yarpen, i don't agree with your theory at all. Traditions never trickle from upper to lower class but get embelished the other way round. But that is not even necessary to disprove it. I think it has to do with sexuality first and foremost or curbing the lust of men seing young fertile women that visibly reached sexual maturity with plump beautiful breasts ready for the going. From the time humans became furr less animals young breasts had to be a trigger for seeking intercourse. That of course could lead to fights and violence among men. Covered breast was probably imposed on young women by mature men especially their fathers. As a woman gets older why would she want to change that yong habit. Habits formed early in life stick. In the contrary she would want to keep believing her breasts can arouse men and needed to be covered even if it did not anymore, feminine coquetry would dictate that. The reason men nipples do not trigger female sexuality is that a baby girl is not breast fed by her father's nipples but a boy is by his mother's. Male sexuality is formed by this you can read on it from psychanalysis. Female sexuality has to do with her father protection, provider and procreator roles. It's why women are more sexually attracted to a young father who has a son or daughter than a single man of the same age. It's all rather obvious actually.
For Minoans women to go breastless it had to be a matriarchal society were women have the power over men. How is this possible, well it implies an advanced society in relationships were power resides not in physical force like the greeks which were an inferior civilization compared to the Minoans (and jealous of them, note that the greeks are known to deride other civilization including persians, egyptians and were violent and warlike). Back to the harmonious Minoans, mariage was probably arranged by women not by men, household, family and religion (priestesses) were areas of society under women's control. Sexuality must have been interesting too. I would not be surprised that men had no property rights, everything was in the possession of women including.. men. It would be interesting to find out if Minoans were monogamous, i guess not. Matriarchal society probably had women allowing the sexual partners they wanted and be responsible to provide for them. This system would also make sure men had no woman to themselves only. But somehow they lived a happy balanced life. This would paint the Minoans as the exact opposite of Greeks. A natural cataclysm erased the Minoan society and kept the greeks. In those days populations were in thousands not millions. A civilization could become extinct. Unfortunately the western world is modelled after the greek's model.
Yep, you're right! Good civilizations are always destroyed by the evil ones, and they always give us a different version of what happened. Spain did the same to the Mayan civilization.. This world has always been controlled by the evil ones.
I prefer this ancient civilization A LOT more than my current one I live in. And that is the truth
I had a Camara once, a 68 convertible. And the Phaistos Disc is a menu for some restaurant. Look at it!
Which people wrote the history of the Minoans? Where were these people located?
Probably Egyptians knew the Minoans best
and how do we know that the king "was fair and just"?...the over all tone is not factual...
How do we know the tone was not factual? The comment overall is not fair and just to the narrative.
We do not even know if a king existed.
We do not. We don't know most of the stuff spewed forward in this video.
I have to agree. If things had gone better for them, the world would be a very different place.
Can someone send me the text of what is he saying?
The idea of a historical Minos is extremely far-fetched. Even the idea that there was a monarchy in Minoan settlements is unproven. Even the presiding seat of the "throne room" (which may not be a throne room) might have been intended not for a king but a priestess.
The Mycenaeans were led by warrior kings, but the actual evidence on the governance of the Minoans is sparse. The "palaces" are very likely to have been built for the benefit of all and it's possible that they are not palaces but an assortment of temples and dwellings. The frescoes do neither focus on nor magnify important persons, be it deity or royalty, in the same way that egyptian funerary art does (and any interpretations that they do are only belabouring the point, in reality all people are consistently represented in an egalitarian fashion in Cretan and Theran frescoes). We do not know if the Minoans had kings at all.
Don't we know from the Greeks?
Penny Smirlis All palatial sites except Knossos were destroyed in the 15th c BCE. Knossos was probably Myceneanised after that and stops being occupied around the time of the Bronze Age collapse. Minoans continued to exist throughout in small settlements and occupy new sites, even mountaintops in the 12th and 11th centuries.
The earliest source is Homer and he is unlikely to have recorded anything before the Myceneans.
So no, classical Greek sources are not that reliable, unfortunately.
@@pennysmirlis5989 no we do not. For instance there is written "evidence" of six kings of Rome, but besides the Tarquinius, all of them are likely mythical. And this for the events recorded 400 years after they happened. Imagine 1000 years after or so.
Yes all our educated guesses, but so is everything we know about anything in this time period.
My belief personally is it wasn't a society at all, it seems too utopic. An idealism by some rich guy of the time, possibly a holy man or women. As all of these conclusions are a) written by a guy 400 years after the fact from a world where they regarded men as rulers.* b) pictures on a wall which could be painted by any artisan of that time period.
Imagine if 5,000 years from now people find our remains and civilisation, and instead of all of the histories and computers etc, denoting all our history only the garage wall of Banksy's Distopic Feminism painting is left? Then they would think we lived under the rule of women and fell by their incompetence and lavish behaviours.
That be hilarious. I want a time machine now.
*note: greeks, especially athens, were curious of "what if"s - like we are today - and one of their what ifs was the fact what if society was different? aka flipped upside down, inside out. So the story of minos is a great one for their what if mentality and also to warn of foreign invaders to the greek culture and way of life. A Mionian civilisation, thats lets face it rather picturesque, quite Greek in archetecture and isn't far fetched to be plausible for Greeks to have done, made by a person(s) to imagine what it would be like. A place where worship, equality, and enjoyment were all in and the same. Where there is no class divides and no jealousy. Only one thing, a worship of the bull (of which Greeks regarded as holy) of which their entire existence is rallied around. I mean even down to what the woman wore as fashion, must be pure fiction. Thats made up by a man...or that "palace" was a pleasure house, either one.
Funny how I've only just realised this beautiful past of my forefathers , also never been so proud of my name . Heaven really is on earth 💙
At About 3;00 it speaks of an image of King Minos ob a vase found on Crete. Later in the video it says that the Minos myth is a not product of the Minoan but rather, their enemies, the Greeks. If that's true, the vase probably needs to date from after the Greek conquest. Would the Minoans be likely to portray an enemy's myth about them?
the problem is with your understanding capability, not with the video. The existence of king Minos is not tied to the greek's minautor's myth a deriding fiction. The greeks distorted the reality out of jealousy and envy they were an enemy of the Minoans. What did not exist was the labyrinth of the minotaur, what did exist was the city whose architecture looked like a labyrinth, its king MinThe greek myth was formed
its from a myth of athens.. not an official one.. its an ypothesis.. also in the nature magazine the genetics show that minoans were almost the same with myceaneans.. just a diffrent political structure. and the region of course.
Minoans were Greeks too,they were not enemies...stop the propaganda...In the east Crete has being done a dna test.The results showed that they have similar dna with ancient minoan sceletons that were found in east crete. So this means that the Minoans are the ancestors of the modern Cretans who are Greek....Minoan were Greeks by blood and language and religion. Linear B used both in Mycenaean and Minoan kingdoms was the immediate precursor of ancient Greek as we know it. Also, Linear A, a former language that is in the process of deciphering points to the same fact. The same holds for modern Greeks. As DNA studies reveal, they do have near mythical origins. The transition and evolution of Linear A->Linear B->Greek alphabet is a proof per se about the natural transition and evolution of a language and its users.
in fact despite several conspiracy theories on Ancient Greeks being either African or Nordic,(we laugh here) it has been proven that modern Greeks today are still direct descendants of the first Greeks (Minoans and Mycenaens).
I hope to be going there one day!
I did, in 2001. And... it was closes, the employees went on strike. :/
I thought the same ! :)
What do you mean they suddenly disappeared? They were killed off and assimilated by the people who became the Greeks after the volcano weakened them.
nature magazine published an article about the similar genetic origins between minoans and myceaneans.. the study came from many genetic scientists from different coutries with the help of skeletons in graves.. the people that you refer as greeks is hundrends of years later - i mean with this name-. the name when we reffer to such periods is useless.. but at least we know that always have been existed ethnic groups as it seems...myceaneans had different political structure and a much more military organisation.
Yup
Evans made things the way he thought they should be. But the excavation was all legit. He was wrong about many things. He thought they were somehow linked with the Egyptians. But in 2016 they took samples of skeletons in caves that stay cool in Crete, they were from 10,000 years to 4000 years, and Lo and behold they were almost 100 % western European. They think they were hunter gatherers, and there may have been a land bridge after the Ice Age.
I forgot the DNA link www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2871 very interesting.
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They were connected to the Egyptians, through religion, phrase, and script. They had cousiin languages. They even said to be cousins. The people of Ka-nossos, and the people of Ka-naan, and the people of Ka-mat. All had language descended from Sumerian.
Western European? 🤣 Please stop feeding us nonsense. Your story doesn't add up! Even the Greeks of today are not Western European. People like you try too hard to associate themselves with Western culture as if that's a good thing.
This was SO full of conjectures, it sounded like it was written by someone who read a couple books from a library and deemed themselves an expert. In reality, we know so little about this culture we can hardly make any claims about their history and society.
Possibly we know so little because what has been recovered does not fit neatly into academic preconceptions?
Oh Jesus, enough with the BS conspiracy theories... there are *hundreds* of archeologists out there who want to make a name for themselves, usually by challenging the dominant beliefs. If we knew anything more about the Minoans, then it would make it into the mainstream knowledge regardless of what it was.
Bethany Runyon such makes the research so interesting.
YES INDEED THE GREAT ATLANTIS WAS BEHIND THE PILLARS OF HERCULES ,A GREAT ISLAND IN ATLANTIC OCEAN WHERE AZORES ISLAND TODAY EXIST. GREAT ATLANTIS CIVILIZATIONS WERE DESTROYED IN WAR www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Atlantis 11.500 YEARS AGO WERE PART OF A GREAT ISLAND CALLED ATLANTIS CIVILIZATION . BUT IN BILLY MEIER CONTACT WITH ADVANCED ETs CALLED PLEJAREN , IT SAYS THAT THERE WERE 4 ATLANTIS CIVILIZATIONS ALL CONNECTED AND RULED BY A FEDERATION OF KINGS AND QUEENS OF WISDOM . THE OTHER 3 ATLANTIS WERE THE MINOANS CIVILIZATION IN CRETE AND SANTORINI ISLANDS . ALL THIS ANCIENT CIVILIZATION EXISTED 15.000 YEARS AGO AND WERE VERY ADVANCED IN SCIENCES , KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM AND WERE RULED BY KINGS AND QUEENS OF WISDOM OR GOODS AND GOODNESS , THIS CIVILIZATIONS WERE ADVANCED HUMANS WHICH COLONIZED EARTH 389.000 YEARS AGO IN MANY COMING AND GOING OFF EARTH SYSTEM OR AFTER HAVING COLONIZATIONS AND THEN AFTER THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGAIN WARS BETWEEN THEM THE ATLATENS CIVILIZATIONS .MORE INFORMATION ABOUT EARTH TRUTH ANCIENT HISTORY YOU CAN FIND IN CONTACTS NOTES BETWEEN BILLY MEIER AND PLEJAREN ETs ADVANCED HUMANS . www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Atlantis ; ca.figu.org ; figu.org ; http//:au.figu.org HAPPY READING :) . Contact report 219
In contact 219, 16th June 1987, Quetzal explains that there were four different Atlantises. The following are those four Atlantises chronicled in the same order as found in Contact Report 219, but with map notes for your own map investigations.
New Atlantis beyond the Pillars of Hercules, between the Azores and Spain.
Map research notes: Pillars of Hercules was a phrase that was applied in Antiquity (any period before the Middle Ages 476-1453) to the promontories (raised masses of land) that flank what we today call the two mini-mountains either side of the mediterranean sea entrance area, the Strait of Gibraltar. The Rock of Gibraltar on one side and mount Jebel Moussa on the other.
Macaronesia, In google ocean there are many seamounts between the Azores and Spain, most of which would have been smaller, larger or connected now island archipelagos. The remaining island grouping candidates today; all of which would have theoretically been mountains in those times, include the Madeira archipelago islands; Porto Santo, Desertas, Bugio, Ilhéu de Chão, Savage, Selvagem Grande, Pequena. The now many Canary Islands; Tenerife, Fuerteventura, Gran Canaria, Lanzarote, La Palma, La Gomera, El Hierro etc and the more southern Cape Verde islands; Santiago, São Vicente, Santo Antão, Fogo, Sal, São Nicolau, Brava, Maio , Boa Vista etc. Probably worth explaining too that todays mainland; Portugul, Spain, Morocco, Western Sahara, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali and Algeria and todays European tourist destination Balearic islands; Majorca, Minorca, Ibiza etc while not listed, were probably also something too.
Small Atlantis that existed in the Mediterranean Sea in the area of Santorini.
Map research notes: Cyclades, about 220 islands, the major ones being Amorgos, Anafi, Andros, Antiparos, Delos, Eschati, Ios, Kea, Kimolos, Kythnos, Milos, Mykonos, Naxos, Paros, Folegandros, Serifos, Sifnos, Sikinos, Syros, Tinos, and Thira or Santoríni. There is also the Dodecanese, Ionian and Saronic islands and Crete, not to mention mainland Greece and Turkey themselves. Monstrous wealth of Archaeology in these entire areas of Earth.
Old Atlantis on which later, after its downfall, Troy was built.
Map research notes: Turkey, probably nothing like the fictional film Troy, though Brad Pitt and most of the cast of that film probably spent time in that entire southern European area in a previous incarnation at one time or another as a point of general interest. Troas, Lesbos, Tenedos. There is also apparently some mention of this geographical area in one of the religious bibles of the various Catholic peoples for whatever its historical worth.
Great Atlantis in the Azores area of the Atlantic ocean. The rulers of whom ran a central government for all four Atlantises and their peoples. The administration of the various Atlantises took place through authorized representatives, who were called the 'Litent'.
Map research notes: Today its nine volcanic islands in the Atlantic ocean. Ocean floor elevations seem to corroborate the meteor/comet pelting the ocean tsunami scenario and ocean level rise, connected islands situation. São Miguel, Pico, Terceira, São Jorge, Faial, Flores, Santa Maria, Graciosa, Corvo. You may also enjoy a cool refreshing beer known for its premium taste, 'San Miguel', not quite São Miguel, just have a beer. 'Litent' apparently does not translate or within any obvious variant from any of our modern languages, though it does mean lite in latin, low-fat, low-sugar, beer with relatively few calories, bundled or freeware software lite. There is no obvious evidence available because it was washed clean of everything if the tsunami was over a thousand meters tall.
Contact report 256
In contact 256, 13th May 1996, included within a reader question in FIGU Bulletin 011, Ptaah provides information about the various ancient pyramid structures of Earth. Their historical relationship with the various prevailing events, re-purposing and association with the orientation of the stars around the Earth at the time of their construction approximately 73,340 years ago.
Chronology Illustration
An artists simulacrum representation of contextual content
The above image accompanies contact 9 and has been included here to provide additional chronological clarity to the Atlantis events on this page. But which clashes chronologically with contact 70 yet not with contact 55 or contact 60.
Chronology Disparity
Jschwjsch Pelegon leaves earth around 40,000 years ago (contact 9). For 7000 years (contact 9), or 700 years (contact 70) earth was avoided and became wild. Jschwjsch Atlant and Jschrisch Karyatide (contact 70) returned (along with many others) 133,000 Earth years ago (contact 70) or 33,000 Earth years ago (contact 9) in the latest episode, under the leadership of Atlant, the continent of Atlantis, which had been headed for again and again, and used for millennia, was expanded and made habitable in the usual globalising fashion. While under the command of his wife Karyatide (Gender Equality), Lesser Atlantis (contact 70) or smaller-Atlantis (contact 55) (Santorini region) came into existence. Concurrently her cousin Muras built the gigantic city of Mu in the Gobi desert (China) (contact 55). For thousands of years they lived in friendship and peace (contact 9) a whole 1,800 years to be precise (contact 70). Until some scientists exalted themselves (contact 70) by the old thirst for might and power, and tried to seize the government(s) (contact 9). But the nations rose up against them and fled into space (contact 9) 15,000 years ago or 115,000 Earth years ago (contact 70). 2,000 years later they returned filled with hate, (contact 70) some 13,000 earth years ago (contact 9) or 113,000 (contact 70). Their single wish was, however, to gain control over the Earth, for which reason every individual was taught wicked intrigues and was instructed in the craft of war. In two groups, they settled in the high north (contact 9) and the present Florida of North America (before an upset of the Earth shifted its axis contact 70), while they continuously attacked Atlantis and Mu in wars. In only a few millenniums after their occupation of Earth bases, they succeeded in destroying (the civilizations of) Atlantis and Mu completely (contact 9). The few survivors went into servitude, while many great scientists were able to flee, and return to their home worlds in the Plejaren system. Or (contact 70) During around half a millennia, or said very precisely, during 502 years, those war machinations continued, until Arus the First, who in the meanwhile had become old and weak, succeeded in infiltrating wicked elements of his hater humans into the leading controlling ranks of Atlantis and Mu, who secretly stirred up violence and hate for so long, as also did their descendants over several centuries, until, through boundless intrigues, Mu and Atlantis were able to be completely destroyed some centuries later, while the only few survivors were beaten into servitude.These events transpired approximately 11,500 years ago (contact 60).
Some of the Minoan paintings shown depict peoples of a reddish hue color, quite similar to the ancient Egyptians. The Minoans might have been a mixed race society, white and blacks or brown people living side by side.
I believe that the red figures are men and that the white figures are women. Minoan Crete is said to be an ancient matriarchal society. This is farther evidence that king Minos never existed.
I doubt there were allot of Aiethiopians(Blacks) since they lived so far south in Sudan but I think that many Arabs would live there.
Marvin Critchlow, this was actually an artistic device to distinguish between men and women. Men were red, women were white.
We don't know the reason behind this practice, but it's suspected it is related to a religious belief about the essence of men and women.
Men represented the sun, and women represented the moon. It was binary way of looking at role of men and women in society.
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In the book of Isaiah, it stated a civilization that was swallowed by the Sea forever.
The Sea is the Mediterranean.
This is incorrect. Arthur Evans re-constructed all that you see except for the ruins. The throne IS real and was excavated but the rest of the rooms were re-constructed. All of the frescoes were in tiny pieces and Evans has been criticized for the liberties he took with the re-construction. Especially his use of concrete. He also claimed that Linear B couldn't be Greek but Michael Ventries proved him wrong in 1952. He claimed the Minoans were the Big Guys in the Aegean not the Myceneans. Well they HAD BEEN the Big Guys until around 1400 then the Myceneans invaded and took over. He would have been mortified had he been alive when Ventries proved him wrong.
muffin6369
I agree most of Evans’ reconstruction was inspired by his imagination so it’s not entirely accurate. The irony is that Ventris was inspired by Evans lecture at the age of 14 to decipher Linear B! To bad he died while trying to decipher Linear A 😔
Nice job muffin
When I die, I want them to dress me in bird feathers, with a hat made from a crocodile skull, strap my hands to a hammer and a frying pan, and bury me in a peat bog.
Fair enough
Dave Plu No problem!
We need that Minoan attitude now 11Sep2021
real atlantis :D
no doubt for me, especially the part were the atlantis myth talked about a city that "disappeared" under the sea. When a volcano cauldron miles around collapses in can sink into the magma and melts and disappears under the earth's crust under the ocean this scenario happened in indonesia. imagine the mediteranean waters fighting with an opening in the earth's crust pourring magma for days and creating huge clouds of water vapour leading to torrential rains, deluge and sudden change of temperatures.
I love these bout the guy pronounces everything in a weird way lol
This channel says, "We make history come alive!" Nope. You've stolen all the videos from the History Channel series entitled, "Secrets of Archaeology", removed the beginning and end credits, and claimed it as your own work.
Atlanteans dominated the world of their time. Had the volcano not blown up things would have been so different.
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The Ancient Minoans Aegean Empire?How can they prove thay? By myths?So few things were found in the remains.Are the remains real Greek cities or kingdoms?Maybe they were cities or colonies of Egypt or Hittite.The cities Greek mythology described including cities in North Africa, Greece and Anatolina.
+xiayi Yeon Archeologists have discovered written documents in Linear A and B from the Minoan period . Linear B has been partially deciphered and is a Greek language. Linear A has not been translated yet. Homer mentions the Cretan tribes and I am sorry to disapoint you but there is no connection between the Minoans and the Hittites or the Egyptian.
smilycat3a
Calling it Crete civilization is ok. But if we still cannot find the connection between Crete civilization and Greek civilization, it will be go too far to call it Minoan civilization.
Did Minoan a real kingdom really exist in Crete island? Or it is a story described in Greek mythology?
I doubt it because some fake recovery enginerring can be found in Crete islands. Many people know that,
Inventing the Minoans: Archaeology, Modernity and the Quest for European Identity
www.academia.edu/4924449/Inventing_the_Minoans_2005
I also think that calling the remain of a ancient city found in Anatolia "Troy" according to epic poem is also ridiculous. How can people know it is Troy or Greek city? I doubt that did people find anything related to Greek civilization in the remains of so called Troy city?
There are many theories about Minoan civilization and Linear A..
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_A
I remeber that Linear A can be found in other places like Phoenician.
Sorry. I think there were many fake theories invented in 18th century for European Identity. I think people really find too few things in Mycenaean Greece. The records of Linear B even cannot tell us much about Mycenaean Greece or they belong to Mycenaean Greece. Maybe people call it Mycenaean Greece according the predicted time of ancient legends.
+xiayi Yeon I told you about Homer . The tribes that lived on Crete are mentioned in his poems. There is no mention of Egyptian or Hittites..... However there is some connection between Minoans and Phoenicians. Minoans might have been a mixture, of a branch of Phoenician people, that migrated to the island, and the local Neolithic people that have already been living there. Nobody really knows how the Minoans used to call themselves. The written Linear A documents from that time have not been deciphered yet. But we have visual records. There is wall paintings and floor mosaics that reveal to us how Minoan people looked like. You see dark skinned people and white skinned people. We know that there was mixing of two different colors, that produced the Meditarenean people. This mixing of colors however happened 5000 to 4500 years ago. And not now, as some nationalistic idiots are trying to present nowadays. I know nothing about faking historic records. And we don't care at all about European identity in my country.....while nationalistic groups all over the world, try so hard to assume Greek identity.......and this is the paradox of this story.......lol...... You are wrong about the Linear B ( Mycenean) Achean records. There is a lot of information in Linear B documents about the Acheans city states of that era. Much to everybody's surprise, the names of the Achean kings and the names of the city states in these documents, are the same that Homer describes in his poems!!....There is no proof that Troy was a Greek city. Why do you say this? The main Greek tribes mentioned in Homer were the Acheans , the Dorians, and the Ionians..... These three main Greek tribes spoke the three Hellenic (Greek) dialects that comprise the Hellenic language. They are the Acheans, the ones that the Europeans wrongly call (Mycenean). Those are the ones that descended in the Greek peninsula around 1500BC. The Dorians that also started descending from the north around 1100BC. Dark haired and dark complexion Hercules was the forefather of this second tribe. And the Ionians that lived at the coast of Asia Minor and made colonies all around the Meditteranean. Homer also mentions the Pelasgians as one of the tribes that inhabited Crete with the Minoans. Pelasgian are not mentioned as a Greek tribe though. They originated from Poenicia and it is not excactly certain if they were white people....lol....Pelasgian are the most obscure people in human history. For this reason they are used by a lot of nationalistic groups around the world as their ancestors. Having said all this . I want you to know that this is the longest text I have written on line . I hope I have given you the information you need . And I do not wish to discuss any further. Bye
smilycat3a
Bye....
Thank you for information.
People often doubt the reality about the epic poems. I cannot find the detail information of what recorded in Linear B ( Mycenean) Achean records in Internet. So, I have no idea about the reality of Mycenean Greece.
I remembet that Homer's epic poem described that people in Troy worshiped Greek gods. The connection between Anatolia and Greece can be found by the style of buildings and others.So, I think it may be a Greek city.
I think there was some connections among all Meditarenean people and civilizations.
Greek mythology often described some cities outside Greece.
+xiayi Yeon Yeah I realise now that I take things for granted ......Linear B study is still going on right now, but it is confined to university department professors and students only. I can have better access to this research being a native speaker, but I should have thought that, if you look it up really hard , you can come up with the same information I do, on line. It must be really confusing to a foreigner to remember all these names written in a foreign language. And there might be misinterpetations and confusion at the beginning. And the best solution will be to learn Greek, I'm afraid. Both modern and ancient Greek!! ....lol......another solution will be to find a serious native speaker to guide you through this maze of information......but sadly I can not be available for this job , not on a full time basis...... I could only give you some guide lines occasionally of course.....but that's all about it .....you have to do the serious study all by yourself!!
wonder if it was a red ball of silk, the red string..bulls dislike the red cloth.
My mind is saying that I should sit on Minus’s throne if I visit there.
Excellent documentary. Thank You! However, your basic premise that this was a peaceful society is wrong. There were some 60 city states on Minoan Crete and they competed and really disliked each other. This peaceful myth has been disproven by more recent archaeological work, but it has been a very popular one for the baby boomer generation!
Time for the end of Minoan civilization seem to differ. Thera eruption is dated around 1600 bc, not 1500 bc. End of Minoans said to be 50 years after the eruption, i.e. 1550 bc, and also circa 1400 bc. Something's not right here. As eruption took place ca 1600 bc (acc to ice core dating in 1628 bc), if Minoan culture ended ca 1400, obviously the eruption could not have ended their civilization.
The horse, body armor, composite bow bronze making tools and weapons arrived in Mesopotamia. The Levant, Egypt etc.around 1600-1450. That was basically the Thera time. Remember the horse was not native to that area, and they don't usually stray 1000's of miles, someone had to of brought them down. Thera I think was the reason they came down from the far north. Thera would have made a very cold year. They are possibly who the Hysko's were. They know they were who brought horses and armor.
The Cretans (here called Minoans) were Greeks. This has been proved. The legend of the Minotaur was created by the Athenians as propaganda (you got this part right).
The buildings in Akrotiri don't look like anything else because the Minoan Eruption devastated all of Greece. Immediately after the eruption came tsunamis and heavy rain for days. The tidal waves didn't travel only to the south. In Cesme, a human and a dog tsunami victims of that time have been found. The few survivors could not preserve the buildings. Those in Akrotiri were covert in pumice. The Greeks had to start from scratch. The memory is preserved in the myth of the flood of Deucalion (the source that Deucalion lived in the 16th century is the Parian Chronicle).
The whole "Atlantis" thing is uneducated.
The Mycenaeans were not ancestors of the Greeks, they were Hellenes. They didn't subdue anyone, they just filled the void. We changed our name from "Greeks" to "Hellenes" after the flood of Deucalion. (source: Apollodorus 1.7.3)
i spent half the documentory screaming MINE-otaur! its named after king MINE-ose not king MEN-ose
still good to find a documentory about the past that isnt waer war war war
He was saying it right. It's not my-notaur, it's min-otaur. And he *said* My-nus, not Men-os.
This is the thing that irritates me. This is so Eurocentric. And that’s fine because it’s Europeans telling the story of Europeans but I hope people realize the embellishments. Greece is often credited as being the ‘cradle of western civilization.’ They undoubtedly had a part in it but they were not the originators of the way of life of the “West.” Greece took a lot from the Minoans. The Minoans, while unique in their own right, got a lot from Egypt. Persia was more western than Greece ever was. Persia got its civilization from Sumer. Sumer got theirs from Kemet, or Egypt, for the Europeans. And Kemet got their civilization from Kush. At the same time India had a few civilizations that are still, for the most part, lost today. Europe didn’t invent anything about civilization. In fact, Europeans were the last to become civilized relatively speaking.
Europeans like to use the written word as objective proof. But that is a flawed system. Do you know how much knowledge has been lost throughout human history? Entire libraries burned to the ground. Kings burning books and scripts that tell the history of their enemies and their conquered peoples.
Sumer actually came before Kemet (Egypt). Most others came after. Ancient civilizations from & around what's call Greece did create & accomplish wonderful things, so modern Western Europeans love them more.
Kerwin Williamson How do you know Sumer came before Kush and Kemet? That is a serious question. We know that Africans refused to write down their history. In about 3,500 BC Lower Egypt and Upper Egypt ‘Merged’ but there is no mention of the creation of either. Plus, there was a civilization in modern day India that predates Sumer. But they also did not write their accounts down. They left cave paintings though. But does that mean that it didn’t happen because they didn’t write it down? Writing down history was the invention of Herodotus, a Greek, over 7,000 years after the civilization in India.
Kerwin Williamson th-cam.com/video/zmAYV42Ibeo/w-d-xo.html
There was a civilization 10,000 years ago in India. (Some have been found from 17,000 years ago.) That’s way before Sumer. They were herding animals. We know this because the animals they were herding weren’t from that area. They were from Africa. Africans had civilizations in India over 5,000 years before Sumer existed. The European was the last to the party. Do not take the Europeans word on histories that they had nothing to do with. They were basically Neanderthals still when this was happening.
@@sincityquinn chances are there was civilization 10,000 years ago somewhere, but what does anyone mean by civilization (expert or not)? I previous remark came from what little I've learned bro, not to knock you. Check out a book called The 12th Planet (all of it might not be a fact yet, but interesting to read).
Kerwin Williamson I know. I didn’t take it as you knocking me. I just know how effected people are by the ignorance of Europeans. They represent their misinterpretations as historical fact.
I think the production on this video is great, but we really need to stop making shit up about the Minoans. Or at least need to stop pretending these theories are facts. We don’t know anything for sure about Minoans and won’t until Linear A is deciphered.
All this “the women were liberated, and the king was just and fair, and the palace was democratically organized” is just a bunch of guesses (and wishful thinking), not fact. I’d like to remind everyone that historians made the same guesses about the Ancient Greeks’ society, because of how many important goddesses and prominent female characters there were in their myths… and then Linear B was deciphered. We don’t know anything until their written language provides primary sources.
we are not their children, we are course and savage
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I recently made a short film covering the Cycladic Culture for fellow enthusiasts of the Early Bronze Age Aegean. Here it is:
th-cam.com/video/RvDJPbkncFI/w-d-xo.html
I was interested in this until the claims of King Minos, women, etc. The Linear A language has NOT been unlocked yet so we have no idea if anything about this culture period!
Nice accent for non english speakers.
22:09 Anti-Christian subliminal message here. Or not so subliminal.
THE MINOANS HAVE GREEK ORIGIN. THE MINOANS SPOKEN THE HELLENIC LANGUAGE .
THE MINOANS ARE GREEKS-HELLENES. ALL THE ANCIENT HELLENES HISTORIANS SAY HOW THE MINOANS HAVE HELLENIC ORIGIN
Lush and joyful Eden. Dan a tribe blessed with Eden. CHILDREN OF THE CRETE, WHOM ALSO ADMIRED WOMENS' Rule and or value of authority.
DNA research shows that modern Greeks are indeed descended from Minoans as well as Mycenaeans.
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@@angrybirdoYes,when you mean than thats right😂 but the truth always comes to light🌟🐣🌙 m.th-cam.com/video/teRMxIzx_HM/w-d-xo.html
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@@angrybirdo Some people are blessed with such magnificent ignorant stupidity that they don't notice their own ridiculousness ☝😂
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Santorini......Atlantis?....... Maybe?........???🤔
to many assumptions, please get real.
Ha!
The minator was Baal and the sacrificed 14 ppl a year ona mountain/volcano or burnt to death on an altar.
The island was a holiday resort for the Phoenician elites and priests(hence the bull). It was where Sargon got his power. They were originally living on the coast of turkey(via dna) and Finnic dna. They didn’t need war or slaves like other places. All goods came from Phoenicia etc so slaves and armies were not needed. They ruled the seas, not the land
Santorini sinking into the sea might well be the formation of the legend of Atlantis.
This video jumps to a lot of conclusions.
that banner at the top won't click off. This video sucks
just disable annotations in the video properties.
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“Egyptian Priest” You mean, African Mystery Schools?
Sin City Quinn
You seem to be very knowledgeable but your understanding of Greek and Middle Eastern History and the words which have come to be used by Roman and later writers has clouded your understanding of history as it has for countless millions of others
To give you a for instance the first Indians were From the Greco/Atlantean world the word Indian is Greek
The Egyptians to were descendants of the Greeks as their Pharaoh’s and upper class returned to the abode of the Gods and underworld which was in Greece
“The Minoans celebrated life!” And ate children.
Its always about the "women"
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I think the people who made this video that claim to know so much about this civilization as a matter of fact are the same ones who try to sell us the history of Egypt! lol
Idiot
Actually, this video compares the Minoan to Egypt, and undermines Egypt every time.
King minus
MINOS not minus
There was no Atlantis , It was a lie made by the Greeks yo show that they were the earliest civilisation. The Minoans went to Egypt , India and masopotamia after the eruption.
Mighty Sikh
The first Indians were Greek
As for Atlantis what would you know not much
Ancient Greeks didn’t lie
Do you ever listen to what you are reading
Mighty Sikh, Atlantis was just a metaphoric representation of the old Athens, nothing more.
Pansa P
Atlantis was Greek History and not a metaphor do you think Plato and Socrates were stupid
They believed in the Historicity of the Account of Solon
@@ddpp1420 If Solon was a real historical figure. The Solon of the Timaeus is a pure literary creation as well as the Egyptian priest (who is often used in Ancient Greek literature, just a figure of style). The Atlantis represents the confrontation by Platon between two image of the city (here Athens) : the dykis and the ubris.
Pansa P
I discovered Atlantis using these so called hypothetical people following their words of which I can guarantee were not imaginary
Understanding the
Words
All this hoo Ha about allegories and metaphors belittles the integrity of our ancient ancestors
All these experts who think the Ancient Greek writers were somehow complicit in writing fictional stories because ancient history is to difficult to understand by some and others trying to make a name for themselves by questioning their integrity
"Egyptians made the pyramids" Stopped watching
I'm Cute Can you explain this?
I've done my research and watched videos about it from many different sources to build my own opinion about it. It's YOU that needs to explain to me how they did the pyramids.
To answer you shortly:
They didn't have the technology to lift the weight of the blocks, also getting them from the source to the "pyramid" was a huge distance.
I only have theories about it. I rather say i don't know than believe blindly what others tell me.
You opinion is irrelevant to facts
Crete. Home of rhe hyksos. The future hebrew jews. But not before they achieved fame as the brutal sea people. Who also gave birth to romulus abd remus. Yeah. The jews footprint in history is astounding
No more wine for you.
You're done
I hope you all know that these Minoans were black people, black civilization.
Another baseless claim made by someone who has to ignore facts to fit into their own simplistic and ethnocentric world view.
Yeah sure dude. Moses was black, Jesus was black, and so were Julius Caesar, Alexander, Napoleon and George Washington, Kublai Khan and Emperor Hirohito. Give me a break dude.
The Minoan civilization is not created by a " legendry monster😷 " called Minos .. the createur is king Soloman the prophet of the GOD .
A lot of ashkenazi nonsense
Another documentary full of some truths and many lies ! Nupuqi Om-Re Khonectics will guide you . I am Minoah !
your not manoah
Knossos Palace was reconstructed and the paintings are also a reconstruction from what Arthur Evans imagined what it would be, they're NOT the original paintings!
The original name of Santorini was Thera!
The original name was Mt Atlas
Later it was called Kallisti
They are reconstructions based on real pieces already found. It is fairly accurate to what it would be. However later, there was burn damage. Btw. Sir Arthur Evans got his "imaginings" from philosoohers, ephemerists, and writers of ancient greece and rome. So he didn't pull everything out of his ass.
@@krift1414 Don't get him wrong. He just doesn't know what he's saying.