Hognose Snakes Hatching- Did our "Patched" egg hatch??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2024
- This clutch has many confusing levels- These babies don't look quite sable, but they don't look quite axanthic either... What are they?! Also, did the egg that Umbra (their mother) attempted eating make it? Find out in today's video!
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Omnombra immediately popped into my head. Pays homage to Omnomlette (r.i.p) and it still has part of her original name in it
Or umnumbra
I vote the name you suggested
I vote for Omnombra!!
I vote Omnombra!!!
i agree omnombra would be perfect
It never ceases to amaze me that, despite my dad not being a reptile person, whenever I see a new hatching video, my first instinct after watching is to immediately run to his room (he's 95 so spends most of his time in bed) and announce 'We've got [insert baby snake breed here]!' and I no longer even have to tell him what I'm talking about. He automatically knows I mean you guys have posted about new snake babies. He's even starting to take interest in things like when I told him about the patched egg. You've singlehandedly turned him into a snake fan!
Actually, it sounds like you turned him into the fan, @minahraven! But still so wholesome
My dad is the same! He is 82, and grew up in the south killing snakes on a farm, so he wasn't a huge fan when I got my hognose. But, now he asks about how he's doing all the time!
That is awesome 🎉
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My granddaughter introduced me to Snake Discovery 🐍
I think Yumbra is the perfect name update!
Omg yes!! 😂
Nombra
Yumbra!!!
I was thinking the same thing!
Thanks for the dissection, it's actually fascinating to not only know that a punctured egg can survive, but to also be able to see what things develop first, like how the pigments don't develop equally (now it makes sense that there's so many morphs). And I agree that it was probably a coincidence that it didn't make it, if the puncture was the problem it would have gone bad way earlier. Could also have been something influenced by the patch but not the patch itself (maybe bacteria and fungi had easier access? or maybe it lost too much yolk/moisture)
also that's some lovely variation on the condas, varied morphs are my favorite
Don't think we've ever been catfished this bad before with a snake clutch 😆.
Molinaro Snake Lab successfully patched a Ball Python egg and it hatched out and grew normally. "Leaky" is the egg and snake
Leaky the BP mentioned!
That's cool! Do they mention what they used to patch the egg?
I commented earlier saying the skin inside of a chicken egg might be better
there's a kakapo in NZ (rare parrot, very endangered) that got its egg crushed during incubation. it was patched "with tape and glue" and incubated successfully
it's a coin toss still
@@Ksweetpea Even bird eggs can be patched with glue - tested myself on a broken pigeon egg! Though i used medical glue (that used to glue small cuts and burns), it's not toxic and has antiseptic properties - maybe that helped the egg to not develop infection like this snake baby.
A little note to the experiment, I would maybe try cracking open chicken eggs, letting the inside of the shell dry, and take the skin from that to see if that would help better. Or using it while it's still wet might work too as a "glue"
Only if you ever come across this situation again. 😊
Ooo a shell donor operation
I was thinking they could take part of an egg that was too far gone but your idea is way better
Do snakes have antibodies that would attack that like an organ transplant might? Using just the shell sounds like it might work since it is mostly just calcium. Not sure about that skin layer you’re talking about. I think some scientists added a window to shark eggs, so they look into that research to see how they added the windows. From what i remember, those eggs did continue to develop normally.
@@popenieafantome9527 in all honesty I have no idea
I've been told and seen good proof that the skin of the egg can be used as a "bandaid" of sorts for cuts and scraps if you have nothing else
@popenieafantome9527 I was curious after your question, so I went on a research binge lol. I couldn't find any resources saying anything in either direction. It would be worth a shot to try out, should the situation arise. I don't think using a donor shell would cause any autoimmune issues, should be inert enough that genetic material wouldn't cross the blood barrier, but I'm no doc.
Edit; it's been successfully done with birds, but I can't find anything pertaining to reptiles.
12:22 - the whomp-whomp disappointed trombone music for this section made me cackle XD
Same here, I wasn't expecting it, I was like this is a little bit different music then normal... Listened closer and immediately started laughing
I'd say paper towel was probably a bad choice of patch material, you could see that there was fungus growing on it because it's basically just wet dead wood. Personally I'd suggest just a piece of bandaid, it's designed from the ground up to do what you want, it's breathable, nontoxic, bacteria and fungus resistant, won't really deteriorate or decay.
Do you think maybe fungus got to the snake and why the snake died
@teijaflink2226 it might have developed a bacterial or fungal infection that stopped it thriving. I would use medical glue, since it has antibacterial properties, but I've never bred snakes so I may just be talking out my rear 😅
@@malice4777a product called OpSite might work. It's the clear membrane they put over an IV site. It's semipermeable in one direction only so excess moisture can come out but bacteria and fungi stay out. Great for tattoos!
That's so weird. They looked so different when they first hatched. Maybe it is an inherited trait and why she was labeled a het-sable?
Almost hard to believe that those are the same babies when you came back to check on them. They look so different!
Rosy did not disappoint, straight to the finger CHOMP ! 🤣
Right?! I never get the name references, but I got this one!! 😂
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So I do nails and when we have a cracked/broken nail we use silk wraps. I bet it would amazing on a snake egg. Maybe with just dipping it in Elmer's glue than patching it up. Might be one of the best options.
I was thinking of that as well!!
Coffee filters work too. I bet that would work better than paper towels at least.
Or you can use an tea-bag skin, works just as well.
@@juliechristie2105anything fiber can harbor bacteria, the product called OpSite might be great for this. It's the film dressing used over IV sites.
I would send some through Amazon but can never find their list.
That almost-fully-developed snake is in excellent condition. Might be a good idea to have it prepared as a wet specimen for display
Whenever Snake Discovery uploads I click immediately, even if I’m doing something like cleaning the dishes or writing an email.
I was JUST about to go downstairs to do laundry. Perfect timing!
I just stopped in the middle of writing a sentence for homework to watch 😂
Same
Me to
Literally stopped organizing shelves halfway 😂😅
I wonder, could it be that initially darker babies are the ones who inherited one copy of sable? 🤔 It could be seeping through on first skin. Though I guess by now it'd be impossible to tell them apart anyway.
That's actually a really interesting thought.
Wouldn’t the ones who inherited one copy just be het sable, since sable isn’t a dominant gene, so it wouldn’t show with just one copy?
@@crystallidgard9270 I'm guessing it depends on how exactly it's expressed. Some recessive genes can still be detected by some minor signs, others not so much.
I breed pigeons, can give a few examples:
1) recessive red in pigeons can still express as 1 copy on pigeons with bronze gene - it makes bronze brighter and more red in tone.
2) male pigeons who carry blue/black + ash red color would often have tiny black stripes on their tail and wing feathers that are otherwise grey in tone in ash red. That's because ash red is dominant, but black would still seep through on big feathers where grey fails to be expressed. That doesn't apply to female pigeons since they only get one or the other.
3) feathery feet are recessive, but one copy would still show up as tiny "slippers"
4) frillbacks are very complicated combo of recessive genes, but if you outcross frillback to other breed, first gen babies (carriers of 1 copy of each gene) would have barely visible frills on their wing shields.
Some of those might count as partially dominant, but in most cases it's just because dominant gene counterpart fails to be expressed in some cells, and that's where recessive works as "backup". Of course I can't say for sure how things are for sable gene in snakes, since that would take some massive research, but can easily see how it can be slightly poking through the dominant normal gene on that first baby skin that developed in the egg and doesn't last for long, so it could have less accurate gene expressions in general.
@@LoneIrbisIt's definitely odd that they looked so different in the beginning.
Oh yeah kinda like the lavender hognoses, all of the het babies have like a faded conda pattern and so were the lavender baby's, so maybe its like that?
For some reason when you guys dissect the egg that didn’t make it, I always get so interested and thank you for that! I’m not sure why but it just seems really cool how the baby didn’t make it ^^
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I wonder if liquid bandage would work in combination with the paper towel to patch an egg? Since it's meant to keep our goopy bits (blood) inside and might work better to keep goopy egg white inside the shell rather than elmers glue since glue is water based and might not dry with the water content in the egg as well as the ambient humidity.
Pretty sure that has a strong germ killing type thing that makes it burn like crazy and would probably be bad for baby snake
I definitely want to see Rosey having babies :O
I bet sable babies with the conda gene would be SO pretty too
I am/was absolutely terrified of snakes, even tiny ones, until I started watching your channel. You have completely turned my phobia on its head with your unending love and enthusiasm. And watching the babies hatch is becoming my new guilty pleasure. Thankyou both so so much from a middle aged nana from England.
I just love how un-phased you are at being bitten, Emily. It makes me smile. You’re a badass! ❤
Just wanted to say hi to your sister Bethany!
I love how the whole family really gets involved in Snake Discovery. It truly looks like a team effort to bring it all together for this community, and is really inspiring to watch. ❤
Although I will never get to own one, because I live in Australia and we don't allow non-native snakes to be kept as pets (also Husband says no more pets!), I have decided that Hognose snakes are my favorite kind of snake. I love watching all the cute babies you hatch and seeing all the different morphs. My 11yo daughters also enjoy your videos although all of us independently found your channel! They will often ask me if I saw the new video yet, or I will let them know there is a new video to watch.
When I had snails, I patched shells using that white film found inside of a boiled chicken egg between the shell and egg. Laid it flat and covered the patch and slightly larger with a simple 2 part epoxy.
3:31 it’s okay little snakes, people think that about me too 😂
The world would be a much nicer place if there were more people like Ed & Emily! Thank you.
LOL, THE SONG OF DISAPPOINTMENT when they were setting up the baby bins 🤣
Was the editor maaaaaybe also disappeared in the glow-down???
very womp womp wompppp music LOL
The music when you were setting up the baby bins was the cherry on top of the glow down disappointment sundae.
I’ve seen Yumbra and Omnombra suggested for new names and those are my favorites thus far!
As a Canadian I must know more of this Canadian days celebration.
You guys love Pokemon so much...Umbreon? into - Umbre-nom? hehehehe
Well darn! I was invested AND excited for you guys! They're still beautiful, and have great genetics, so not all is lost. Have a great weekend!
An educational version of 'Anaconda'?! that's hilariously wholesome, i love it 😂
Don't use paper towels. That attracts water which will start the mold. I just use tape with or without glue
I think of Umbra as Hambre reflexively now. She hungers.
Snakes out for Hambre
We are in the UK. Local to us is the Cambridge Raptor Centre. Thry successfully patched a cracked egg with nail varnish. We watched them fly at a show this year
Interesting! I recently bred some eggs and accidently tore one. I tried to use tape to close it up, it didn't work terribly well since it wouldn't stay down, and had this weird thing kinda similar to a scab that slowly grew from the tear, but the baby did make it!
There's just something about coming home after a hard day's work and hearing you two just gush over hognoses that just ends the day off perfectly. You guys are awesome! ^_^
Perfect timing! I was looking for something to watch 🥰
Yumbra!!!!!
Yaaas team Yumbra!
My thought exactly!
Love it!
I bred two conda het sunburst together last year and ended up with 1 sable out of that pairing! Easiest way to differentiate for me was to look for the rosy-looking cheeks on the sable baby. Some of the normal colorations were pretty darn close looking to the sable, but definitely lightened up over 2-3 sheds, while the sable baby just got darker/more rosy cheeked! :)
Have you ever tried setting up a group of eggs with a time lapse camera to watch them hatch after the first one pips?
An educational version of Anaconda is, to me, the highest form of comedy XD
Thank your guys for posting today you guys are my all time favorite people and I hope to be just like you I’ll work really hard Iv always been into snakes and think they are misjudged
Loved the axanthic look! Now they are more normal looking, the joys of hognoses! Love watching the hatching videos!!
Ooohhh Emily's dad has a gorgeous smile.
Nothing better then opening some baby snake eggs
The vid for Umbra's babies on my birthday?! Heck yeah! Sad that the egg Umbra poked didn't make it full term, but cool that the patch job let it last as long as it did.
Heck yea Same! Happy late birthday
POV: you try to play it cool but watch a snake discovery video in the first few minutes..
She has to be Omnom - something. Paying our respects but giving her a new name ❤
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I’m right there with you 😂
Me too guys and I’m on uk time 😂
lol I love this channel
@@lucycurran8293 I’m in us
For some reason, even though I know you love pokemon, I wasn't expecting a quote from The Indigo League in the anime.
But definitely love Umnumbra as a new name/nickname. Also that's super interesting that the glue and paper towel trick worked!
I'm actually so impressed that the patched egg developed that far! It shows how resilient eggs can be, when I guess normally we associate them with being so delicate and fragile. And what weird babies, I'd be so curious to see how they get on as they age.
0:58 okay that is GENIUS 😂
We were watching some old videos of you both opening viewer gift boxes. Our delivery from you arrived. We opened a fun box with you. Thanks. Fast shipping, great product quality! Definitely buying from you both again.
Ed, you are torturing Emily making her wait to cut the patched egg 😂. Love the parade song ❤. Neat babies
This is so interesting. Thank you for digging deeper into the patched egg situation! Wishing you a nice weekend=)
You could hold a few babies back to see if a new bloodline is present in them
I was thinking YUMbra.
I would be curious about a couple of factors with the baby that developed but didn't finish. I'm curious if once he grew large enough the patch sort of "failed" a little, let something get into the egg late into development that made it fail, or let too much moisture out. So it held strong up until that point, which might mean a slightly better patch material would do better in the future if something happened again. Something with a little more give in it that still has breathability. Or even reinforcing the patch mid development, or something similar.
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Ik someone commented this already, but Omnombra would be a perfect name!
0:43 Canada Day Parade. That's what I expect it to be called. As a Canadian.
i really really want to have that baby that didn't develop preserved as a wet specimen that would be so cool
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Yeah more babies!!!!! Emily is so excited. I love you you guys so much xoxo ❤.
Would love to see more of the parade if you have anymore footage. It sounds so fun. ^^
Rosie may be my spirit animal 😅
I love your videos!!! You've made my love for snakes florish the last few years!! Keep being awesome!
I love the baby saying "AH! Ope. Just Ed. False alarm."
Those look Arctic sable
Pair Afternoon Delight to Rosie to check if he's het sable?
Also I like omnombra as an ode to omnolette (May she rest in peace!).
I misheard umbra as Umbreon so perhaps Umbrenom?
after careful thinking, i say best name to rename Umbra would be Yumnumbra, thank you for coming to my ted talk
I HAVE COME BACK TO THISCHANNEL AFTER LIKE 3 YEARS
Am I the only one that caught the moody blues while they were setting up the baby bins. It's the snake disappointment blues 🎵🎶
Rosie trying her absolute hardest to eat Emily was hilarious. Such typical hognose behavior.
i love watching your vids🩷
Cute babies regardless of their morph ❤
Me when snake discovery posts: I NEED SASSY HOGNOSES AND CUTESY SNAKES!❤
I love hatching season vids. You guys always make it so fun
you should cut the paper towel roll (like the whole role) down to the width of the bins. Then you wouldnt have to rib them to size and have overlaps. just a thought.
I just fangirled SO HARD because we’re on the same Facebook group 😂
I LOVE BABY SEASON 🥰
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Another TH-camr used BUTCHER PAPER and ELMERS GLUE and he hatched a live ball Python. He had mould that he wiped off but when he dropped lotramin powder on it the egg split.
Rosy: "Nailed it!“
I wonder if the break in the egg allowed bacteria in?
Have you considered using the kind of nontoxic paint pens that bearded dragon breeders use to tell babies apart when they're really similar looking? If you put a little dot on one of their head/neck, you wouldn't need to try to memorize headstamps!
Haha, xD well at least now we know for sure about Umbra (or Omnombra, or Yumbra
Heyyy Emily(or Ed), can you guys please tell me how to purchase snakes online, IF you even do sell them online? Because I love the baby hognoses you guys hatch :3
Numbumbra sounds adorable
I think "Yumbra" is too good. Lol
This is PERFECT timing, was looking for a video to watch while eatting!
I love you, Emily and Ed! I see an egg 🥚 🐣 hatching video and i click. Hatching videos never get old.
Just a little question, do you guys happen to have snakes legal to own in Australia? I’m generally asking because there are two snakes you can own in Australia, where I live, and my girlfriend and I absolutely love snakes.
Children’s pythons are good starters, and native to Australia (therefore legal to keep)
Just remember that you need a license to own snakes and you have to buy locally, since you can’t import animals in or out of Australia. Go to a local reptile expo sometime, they should have a good selection of snakes for you
"glow down" is hilarious to me
My fiancé suggests Penumbra. Umbra is the shadow and Penumbra is the almost shadow so it's kind of like the pre-shadow and we think it's a perfect name!
I’m not sure if I’ve left this comment before but I really like Umbra’s name
It always reminds me of a weapon from a video game that was said to be a fully sentient sword with the ability to influence those who wield it and it had the enchantment to entrap souls when using it
A snake that eats her own babies being named after a soul trapping sentient sword just feels like destiny for her
Umbras a cool name; it's Latin for shadow or ghost. In the Elder Scrolls franchise Umbra is the name of a sentient entity that takes the form most often of some form of sword, the other is a shadowy cloaked and hooded human like form, where it takes over the minds of its wielder making them go crazy and think they are Umbra and as a weapon it steals health and stamina from its victims giving it to the wielder.
Fascinating how far patched egg baby came development wise!
These babies were so cheeky, appearing one way and then changing after the shed 😂