SONY 85mm SHOWDOWN - SONY FE vs ZEISS BATIS. What’s the best 85mm for Sony Cameras?

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  • How do these two lenses stack up against each other, and is the $400 price tag bump on the Zeiss worth it? (Hint: it IS)
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  • @victorflorest
    @victorflorest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    5:30 there is no virtually difference in terms of picture quality. 6:20 the zeiss is defenitely the best in terms of picture quality

    • @theovisuals9
      @theovisuals9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @jordanduncan1168
      @jordanduncan1168 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha

    • @LAAM619
      @LAAM619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      fr, man these youtubers be doing that shit. Its so annoying.

    • @sonnyari1150
      @sonnyari1150 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i realize it's pretty off topic but do anyone know a good website to watch new movies online?

    • @lukaezekiel9293
      @lukaezekiel9293 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sonny Ari flixportal :)

  • @614Lyfe
    @614Lyfe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    just picked up the zeiss. was back and forth with the GM but the weight was my deciding factor. When hiking that extra pound would be killer. Great video

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love the Zeiss. Really excited to give the GM a try soon, but it’ll be hard to compete against that Zeiss color and contrast.

  • @acme9538
    @acme9538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I picked up a Batis that was purchased and never used for $800, & I am VERY happy I did. I love the color rendition, the pop, and accurate solid focus. 2 things that put me over the edge initially were the excellent weather sealing, and the image stabilization . . . but WOW, the image quality is NUTS ! Great lens, can't go wrong with either.

  • @mlzs_
    @mlzs_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is 3 years old now but can you shoot at a slower shutter speed because of the image stabilization in the zeiss batis? If yes, by how much

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd still stick with the general rule of double your focal length = I wouldn't count on IS to help when it comes to the sharpness of your image.

    • @mlzs_
      @mlzs_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MattJackson_TH-cam I meant that the oss and ibis stack so you can use them both but this only works with the a7rv and about 5 sony lenses as of now

  • @stevenwaldstein2249
    @stevenwaldstein2249 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Know this is an older video but I bought the Batis in 2015 which was two years ahead of the Sony 85/1.8. As simple as that. Bought the Sony 85/1.4 GM in late 2016. Again before the f/1.8 was available since 85mm was a key focal length to me after owning the Canon EF 85mm f/1.2 L II. Now also own the Canon RF 85mm f/1.2L. Waiting on Sony for an f/1.2 as well. Thank you and take care.

  • @jonoy4375
    @jonoy4375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For Toy shots, Zeiss 85 has more contrast to show the texture and details of the timber. Sony 85 F1.8 is sharp, but not much contrast and the colour is a bit light.

  • @Oshiettle
    @Oshiettle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Shot with both....Fe gives you more contrasts...Zeiss gives you dreamy.....

  • @stevenstevensteven4
    @stevenstevensteven4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you tell us about the autofocus in video ? Is there a difference ?

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They both autofocus at the same speed with no hunting at all, especially if you have the focus area set perfectly for your scenario - virtually no difference between the two. However, the FE might have a slight edge overall only because you can toggle back and forth between auto and manual super quickly, making it a little more versatile.

    • @stevenstevensteven4
      @stevenstevensteven4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks boss. I think I’m gonna go for the batis

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stevenstevensteven4 My pleasure. And thanks for watching! The Batis is the one I kept due to the color and depth rendering and its amazing detail. I use it on every shoot.

  • @itsmeericb
    @itsmeericb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’ve had both and love the Batis! Good video!

  • @Anarki2U
    @Anarki2U 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder that it is only very few that think of a macro lens to compare with other short tele lenses, I have used 60, 90 and 100mm macros for 24x36mm (fullframe) format and 120mm macro for 6x6 format for many years, macro lenses are so very good allround lenses and also perfect for portrait ! Right now I use Sony 24mm 1.4 GM, Sony Zeiss Sonnar 55mm 1.8, Leica R 60mm Macro-Elmarit 2.8, Tamron SP 90mm 2.5 Macro Adaptall-2 52B and Sony 135mm 1.8 GM plus many more lenses that I use less frequent. At the moment there are none new lenses in 60 to 100mm primes that I think is good enough for my use !

  • @mystikmeg
    @mystikmeg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hooray. That’s made my mind up. There’s so many videos and reviews on the fence

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fantastic! Which did you go for?

    • @mystikmeg
      @mystikmeg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well I have the Sony 85 1.8 but have just bought the Batis. Looking forward to testing it out and selling the Sony. The Sony is good but found the colours a little muted

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mystikmeg It's a great lens, but I kept the Batis as well for the contrast and colors hands-down.

  • @royphair9676
    @royphair9676 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The fe 85 1.8 is just exceptional the only thing it lacks for me is the stabilisation that the batis 85 has

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. It was my gateway lens into better portraiture!

    • @GLIMPSE_00
      @GLIMPSE_00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah but now a days most of the Sony cameras have image stabilization in them already, So is it really that much of a difference? It’s better that the camera has IS more then the lens!

    • @tfm2934
      @tfm2934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GLIMPSE_00 While it's true that the Batis line comes from an age with less IBIS camera's, it is not true that IBIS is better than OSS. The sensor can only move so much and hence, IBIS is very useful for shorter focal lengths, while OSS is a major benefit for longer ones. It's not coincidence that when mounting an OSS lens to an A7iii, the camera will utilise both IBIS and OSS as a single hybrid system, and that the 70-200GM and 100-400GM have OSS for those exact benefits.

  • @ThisGuyRocksLikeCrazy
    @ThisGuyRocksLikeCrazy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I already have batis 25mm and sigma 50mm. Debating on these two for 85mm now. Do you think Zeiss has a better resale value too?

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the resale is actually quite similar for both since they're both pretty well sought-after. I sold the FE for just under $500 recently. The picture quality of the Zeiss can't be beat, though.

    • @ThisGuyRocksLikeCrazy
      @ThisGuyRocksLikeCrazy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MattJackson_TH-cam Great. Then I'll keep an eye on deals for the Batis 85mm. I hope I can get it for $800. That's how much I paid for my Batis 25mm last year, right before the Christmas.

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThisGuyRocksLikeCrazy I got mine used on Amazon for just under $900, so that's definitely possible!!!

    • @Loachie90
      @Loachie90 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nine Stories Creative Batis was going for 719 at BH yesterday

    • @ThisGuyRocksLikeCrazy
      @ThisGuyRocksLikeCrazy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Loachie90 I saw it at night when I was in bed. I didn't buy it immediately and next day the offer was gone. I got my 25 batis last year around this time for $800. Hopefully they reduce the price again.

  • @TheDollePret
    @TheDollePret 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A friend is selling his Batis 85 1.8 lens, but I just bought the Sony one. Great review, from my point of view the Batis is indeed better. I loved the pictures coming out of that lens more, but the 400 extra is the dealbreaker for me. Thanks, keep on making great videos!

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Sony FE is amazing. You’re going to make some killer art with that lens!

  • @TouristFun
    @TouristFun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish you could have done videography with both this lens I’m thinking which one I should get

    • @KeinBierVorVierAlter
      @KeinBierVorVierAlter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Zeiss has Lens build Image Stabilization - definitely the better choice here

  • @CrisostomoIbarra1989
    @CrisostomoIbarra1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Selling my sigma 85 DG DN for the batis. I also have used the sony. The flare, the weight, and the OS makes it a winner. For sharpness go with the sigma.

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love that Batis!!!

    • @fauzanjamahat1
      @fauzanjamahat1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      May i know why? Im considering to buy either sigma 85 DG DN or Zeiss batis 85

    • @HumanityDone
      @HumanityDone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @jam tayo what do you like about the battis over the DG DN? Im considering both

    • @CrisostomoIbarra1989
      @CrisostomoIbarra1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fauzanjamahat1 sorry for the late response. Comment below

    • @CrisostomoIbarra1989
      @CrisostomoIbarra1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HumanityDone I like the color rendition and the flare it produces. Sigma is very sharp if that’s what you are going for. Ultra sharp 🥲

  • @lifewithmattandnikki3903
    @lifewithmattandnikki3903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for this, as I'm trying to choose. I really cannot see any difference between these two in terms of IQ. It's really hard to see any additional pop from the Zeiss in this. Thanks for the vid

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching! I think as I used it more and more the contrast became a little more apparent. But they’re both amazing lenses!

  • @Mouli_Koripella
    @Mouli_Koripella 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nd filter size for it

  • @ostaseionut2868
    @ostaseionut2868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wich zeiss lens autofocus on sony cameras?

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Zeiss Batis lenses autofocus extremely well - just as fast as the G Master lenses in photo and video.

    • @tfm2934
      @tfm2934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MattJackson_TH-cam Better even according to some tests. The GM seems slow and noisy to focus.

  • @Trevor-Watlington
    @Trevor-Watlington 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video love your personality , keep going man !

  • @pandihtv6638
    @pandihtv6638 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ur english accent is sooo easy listening...i like it...from indonesia

  • @cowboy6591
    @cowboy6591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the ZEISS has much better contrast and color pop.

  • @lovealotsofbass
    @lovealotsofbass 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've learned alot watching your videos. I hope your channel grows!

  • @tfm2934
    @tfm2934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "That Zeiss look is a real thing.". It took me a lot of sceptical years and experience to know what that means. Years in which slowly, but surely, sharpness, overcorrected CA and "soft round bokeh balls" have taken back seat to lively DoF transitions, beautiful color separation and contrast, artistic/lively/non-distracting bokeh patterns, and small form factor. You know, basically every lens property that is NOT scored on DXO.
    Every lens is a compromise and I think the 85 Batis more than the others, weighed "art" the heaviest in that compromise.

  • @kapilesh14
    @kapilesh14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zeiss batis may actually have an edge or it may be just propaganda or cult but if so many creators vouch for it, I am going for Zeiss.

  • @eliirvin3687
    @eliirvin3687 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! you might want to find a way to your voice audio, it can be hard to hear you over the music in the back ground.

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! And thank you for the suggestion - working on fantastic audio balance for all devices is something I'm excited to get better at - thanks for watching!

  • @soleanima1
    @soleanima1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BRAVO !!!

  • @ohadvik
    @ohadvik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job

  • @seattlegrrlie
    @seattlegrrlie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That Ziess look is a real thing...
    ... yeah ... crap... it is and I'm already in deep

  • @romandulce999
    @romandulce999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Despite the Spiderman image, I liked the FE images more.

  • @mariusmocan8491
    @mariusmocan8491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Throw in that new Viltrox 85mm 1.8 II

  • @geoffkeeton4311
    @geoffkeeton4311 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Batis...

  • @kingfisher111
    @kingfisher111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why is your skintone excessively orange?

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because I aggressively overly saturated the footage. To do it over again...

  • @evokestudioio
    @evokestudioio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video! My Name is Michael Von Pick and I want to calaberat and do some sort of Q and A with other youtubers. swing by my channel, check it out and let me know if you have an interest.
    Thanks!
    M-

  • @tomtomtom7411
    @tomtomtom7411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sold Sony FE for $470 and got Zeiss Batis on sale for $719.

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well worth the upgrade.

    • @tomtomtom7411
      @tomtomtom7411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MattJackson_TH-cam I watched your video and just waited for the deal :) . Yes I was lucky to get the Batis deal on Green Monday sale from B&H photo. Love the lens

    • @MattJackson_YouTube
      @MattJackson_YouTube  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s fantastic! Congrats and I’m excited to see what art you create with it!

    • @patrick-resendiz
      @patrick-resendiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was $719 used or new? That’s amazing!