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5:27 How did karen read know where to look for john ? Jen Mccabe testimony : While Jen was driving kerry and karen back to the alberts house after looking for john at johns house. Jen mccabe told kerry and Karen to look for the trees which will show up at the start of the alberts house. Jen testified the reason why she told kerry and karren to "look for the trees it was so that kerry and karen would know how far they are to the alberts house as jen was driving closer to the house" Those trees that jen mccabe was reffering to are the trees on the left side of fair view house right near the flag pole where johns body was. So karen and kerry were looking out the window , looking for the trees , where jen knew john body was , pointed and hinted to look at the trees , so karen would find john quickly.
Why didnt this video play the full 911 call where jen mccabe tells 911 "he got out of the car, it may have been a couple of hours " when 911 dispatch asked jen how long was john in the snow ?
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Rehoming the dog, redoing the basement, selling the house, erasing/replacing phones, a biased and friend of the cops, lead investigator. It's such a joke, those are bad people.
I had a thought about that family in this case named ALBERTS. Do they give you the same feeling as the MURDAUGH family from South Carolina (Alex Murdaugh)...... The Alberts seem just like them because they're like BOSTON ROYALTY & they go back so far in Boston that they have favors from every important person in Boston like (Cops,Lawyers,Judges, Civilians). They are the type of family we call "KING MAKERS" Because in order to reach the important levels in Boston you have to come Kiss the ring....... I see Karen as 100% innocent
The angry phone messages she left him make me think she's not guilty. Whenever someone that's guilty starts leaving "concerned" voicemails on the victim's phone after they've committed the crime, they're pretty much always nice and jokey and then later worried in tone because they know cops will hear them. They feel acted/fake. Jodi Arias, for example. This woman just seemed upset and didn't seem like she was putting on a show for police.
She’s not guilty and I dare anyone in the DAs office to share some of the voicemails and texts they themselves have received from a significant other when upset. Because I guarantee there are some. It’s the nature of relationships. If someone accused me of a crime because of some of the angry texts I’ve sent my spouse…whew…I’d be doing life in prison.
@@Charmcity199 "If someone accused me of a crime because of some of the angry texts.... " Thats not what the crime is. . . far more complicated than your basic take.
@@Charmcity199and Karen Reed will be spending life in prison, not because of her nasty messages but the evidence showing her guilt! Ex: bee line to John's body, her fake attempt to revive him, admitting she may have hit him! Broken taillight? Etc, etc!
Dog bite don’t usually look like, torn skin should be all jagged etc not just lines running all the same direction. Dog shake their heads when they dig in with a bite etc those were to nice looking mark wise
How unprofessional of that lead investigator to say “no nudes so far”, when talking about Mrs. Reads phone search!! He was extremely bias towards Mrs Read and this case should be dismissed totally bc there’s no way to prove she hit him or that it was with malicious intent!! Period! This looks more like a cover up!! Like that bashed her tail light somewhere else and brought the broken pieces back to the home where Mr Reads body was!!
That was the least offensive text. He said "she has a leaky balloon knot" making fun of her colonoscopy bag issues from 8 colon surgeries and he said much more awful things. He no longer has a job
Seems some FKR’ers didn’t get the memo last week that; their blogger dude said nothing will ever happen to the Alberts, etc, and Ted Daniel (Boston 25) said the FBI investigation was wrapped up a while ago after the FBI found nothing - no evidence of any alleged "third-party culprit", "frame job" and "conspiracy" which most of us already knew and for reasons that go without saying. Best to try and keep up FKR’ers!
@@korbendallas7181 did you not watch the trial . The defense brought in the experts to determine his death and they said science and the laws of physics says that Karen read did not hit him and fly him 30 feet away period .
As much as I think she didn't do it. I am also very sad for his family. Sadly, I don't think they will ever know what really happened. My heart goes out to them
If you had watched the trial you would have seen the employee of Cellbrite extractions testify that the google search did not happen at 2:27am, it happened after 6am, AFTER KR ran to JOK's body that no one else could see because he was laying on the ground covered in snow, but KR knew exactly where he was because Clearly, Karen Read knew what happened.
Didn'xt you hear the app company representative? He explained it very well snd said the time recorded is the time the app is open, not the time of search.
It might very well be that the dog bit him and they got into a fight over the dog. The dog bite is most definitely the evidence that something transpired in the home.
I originally thought she was guilty. Then started watching the trial. Then the second I saw the arm I knew that was a dog bite. As someone who was attacked by TWO PITBULLS, Those holes and rips in the flesh look exactly like my leg looked. Then the family apparently got rid of the FAMILY dog. SHE is innocent. Plus if she hit him at 1230am then he would have been frozen after laying unconscious for almost 6 hrs in 18deg weather. So I think Higgins knows exactly what happened and his explanation for going to the police dept at 2am, drunk, makes NO SENSE
Yes, but there was testimony that there was no canine DNA found on JOK, so more likely the scratches were caused by the broken taillight on KR's car as she backed into him
@@kittycaryall Scene was already contaminated with Snow and Reed's intervention so! And the bruise on the hand definitely indicate that he punched someone as well!
That makes zero sense though I feel like people aren't paying attention because what part of that he never got out of the car, his GPS and phone tracking didn't show him near the road he had his phone on him, he wasn't in their house and multiple witnesses said so. I truly believe he was planted their even with the amount of blood on the snow it's too little. He was killed and planted their left to die. The defense has no strong evidence or alibi Karen didn't do it. How do we know the dog didn't try to help him or drag him to safety and that's why he got puncture wounds? If there was a fight people would've seen and gotten on CCTV footage
That was by far the best episode of any Law&Crime Network video I've seen... and I love Sidebar! so that says something about the case and how well this episode was put together. Well Done!
@@tes2bebe115 That is not evidence, she was distraught and not one police report states that she said that in the initial investigation. People say things all the time in the heat of the moment and there are several witness that testified that she was asking if she could have. His arm is part of the evidence that led the ME to say undetermined as well as no injuries to his lower body. He was not hit by a car especially her car.
@mw5213 l go by facts and common sense, she dropped by him off in the last place seen alive his body never got (pinged) close to the front door. Do you really believe a family of cops will leave a body on their driveway? ABSOLUTELY NONSENSE!
I watched news clips about the mistrial but I had noooo idea how insane this case truly was until this video! There’s plenty of reasonable doubt that’s for sure!!!
The thing that's really sad about this is Kerrie saw how distraught Karen was and she used that as a weapon against her in court. These people are so sick and twisted this cover up is just messed up
As an impartial observer, I think Jenn McCabe played a crucial part in this crime. The Google search hours before the body is discovered implies knowledge of his location.
Your nuts lol use your head goofy. Happened in the basement but they have the taillight off her truck and she drove right to his body buried in the snow. 😂 man if I ever want to get awya with murder I hope your the judge or jury 😂
That's why I'm so curious about the civil suit. I'm surprised the jury was hung, but I don't see how another jury could also believe he was hit by a car at all... I'm not saying his cause of death is obvious (basement or not) but he wasn't killed by being flung 30 feet from being struck in the arm by a car.
@@amberstorm1139A child could see she’s guilty. She admitted it. Have you forgotten that. She didn’t think she hit him that hard. Those are on her texts. Lol. Explain that. To yanetti.
Jenn McCabe saying “i know i know i know”, reacting to Karen Read seeing her basically dead boyfriend for the first time. How does “she know”? Because she had already seen him in that condition hours earlier…. Thats how “she knows”
But this doesn't seem to be one of those cases. Otherwise, seems to me they would have taken his body off their lawn and left him somewhere very far from their house
There is so much wrong with this case as well as the investigation. Something that has bothered me is that the Alberts never went outside that morning. There's a dead man in your front yard and you don't go outside to see what is going on? Especially because it's not just some random man out there, it's someone you know. No curiousity? I'm nosy AF. But if it's someone you know, aren't you going to show some concern?
Well you should let the FBI and ARRCA (the leading accident re-creation experts worldwide) that they got it wrong because they said the damage to her car didn’t come from hitting John and the injuries to him didn’t come from a car hitting him.
The kind of plastic that taillights are made of would not shatter into pieces. It would crack, buckle in, or completely come off. This “evidence” should never have been admitted at trial. No chain of custody, among other questions.
@@glee21012Yes! Ironic that all were drinking and driving longer than Karen was. (The Brians had been at another bar first) Chris Albert was in a DUI Hit and Run case, Paul O’Keefe who can’t let go of misplaced anger, in a DUI, paralyzed an older man. IMO, the civil suit is a money grab, presumably to raise the O’Keefe children left behind. I read John adopted the kids over Paul due to their finances.
When I watched the video of karen Read backing into JO car then driving away, it showed the tail light cracked but intact. That's when I realized the tail light pieces had to be planted at the crime scene. There's no other possible explanation. That video was filmed sometime just after 5am before JO was found. Then the expert stated that Jenn McCabe did do a search at 2:27am "hos long to die in cold" proving she knew JO was laying in the snow since he wasn't found until 6am!..😮
Idk what happened but idt a jury could either. Perhaps due to poor policing or crime scene investigation or whatever, the evidence is all over the place. If I was a juror there’s no way I could convict.
It was a cover up, no doubt. John probably found out something the other corrupted cops didn’t want him to know, so they silenced him. It’s obvious the dog started biting at John after John was in a struggle with one of them. Super sad to see police get away with this stuff.
“Aunt Bev” has multiple conflicts of interest and should have recused herself from the beginning. Her blatant annoyance with the defense team was awful to watch.
@@CleoGravelnot exactly old news when she is still the Judge on the case. It is STILL troubling now just as much as it was when this first came out, if not more NOW.
@@Ji5-24other than the bites and scratch marks on his arm. There is a police K9 trainer that did a video on dog bites and showed how they would look exactly like John’s arm, it is here on TH-cam. I suggest you watch it - it is done by a current police officer so you should have no reason to distrust it - he also has actual examples in the form of fake arms that they use to train the police dogs with.
@@bumblingbe I’m not going into the conspiracy theory. The FBI upon a lengthy investigation (even calling on a Federal Grand Jury, found no evidence of any “alleged” third-party culprit, frame job and conspiracy, I therefore trust those findings of the FBI. It also seems evident that the defense won’t even be relying upon it at the retrial.
Her husband Matt also did the “distancing” by referring to him as “the guy”, but they claim to be friends. The “McAlberts” couldn’t be shadier with countless examples throughout the trial. Have you seen the incredible expert analysis over on Truth Revealed?? It was gripping. Justice for John, and it’s not in framing Karen.
Also the body language between John and JMc at the waterfall footage....they are not close. She completely invented this..he seemed friendly with Matt McCabe. Karen is innocent.
The fact that the victim was found in front of an officer's house and never interviewed the homeowner was suspicious. I thought investigators also interviewed the neighbors if there's an accident or crime in the vicinity
If google searches are used to convict (which they are all the time) then the google search by Mrs McCade (sp?) should be held at face value that she googled that hypothermia search around 2am. Prosecutors can’t have it both ways.
I came here to say the same thing. I know nothing about this case, but seeing that one piece of info about the timing of the Google search and deletion appears to be very crucial.
Yes exactly!!! You can't have it both ways I've seen so many cases that have put people in prison for life because of their Google searches... And now all the sudden celebrate isn't dependable?? Give me a break!! I can't stop responding to people on here I got to go LOL
Are you intelligent? Did you watch the trial. Do you know the evidence? Lol. It’s proven she didn’t do it at 2:27am. It’s proven it happened when Karen demanded it at 6;23. Stop talking utter rubbish
A botched investigation and a clear cover up, but the state wants to ignore and the evidence showing biting marks from a dog which is subsequently rehoused and prosecute the victim's partner is absurd.
No but it does happen - they were hoping she would take a plea deal because unfortunately that is usually what happens because it costs massive amounts of money to fight like Karen is doing. So no it doesn’t go to court a lot, usually it’s someone taking a plea for a lesser charge even if they didn’t commit the crime.
Also why didn't she say Officer John O'Keefe & why didn't the Alberts ever come out of their house when all that was going on on their front lawn, the lawn of a cop???
She was just trying to relay the information to 911 in the fastest way. She also said that one of the women was working on him. She knew them, too. What is the difference? Like she would say to 911, "I just found my friend and the guardian of my daughter's best friend in the snow.." Which one would get an ambulance there faster?
@@kittycaryall Wow, are you really this dense?? Had she said he was an off duty BPD, she knew the overwhelming response of police that would bring & then the house would've been SEARCHED, like it should've been!!!
@@kittycaryallShe was in front of her sister’s house. Why not pound on the door yelling help! and get blankets!? Why not get the first responder who lives there- at the house-where an officer is down-? but Jen McCabe stayed in the car whispering about the guy. She’s the real wack job.
If you’re going to make a video at least post the facts. The tail light pieces were not found till after Proctor had the car. When Jon was found NO pieces were found not a single piece.
That’s because they are covered in snow. It’s easy to go back. We have vision of Karen at 5;07am. Her car taillight is busted. Huge hole. Zoom it. So what you say after this is irrelevant. The damage was done.
I don't know how many cases I've watched in the phone records are what have them in prison for life! NOW all the sudden in the Karen Read case that doesn't matter the phone record is wrong.... Unbelievable!
Aidan (turtleboy) did a reconstruction at 34 Fairview (crime scene) where he made attempts to back up at 24mph as KR has been accused of doing and hitting JO..turtleboy wasnt able to make it to 24mph in reverse. He claims it cant be done. It was snowing when JO was found at 34 Fairview laying in Brian Alberts front yard. It wasnt snowing when turtleboy attempted the reconstruction..
Tail light pieces were not found near his body nor were they found early on they were found later when the crime scene wasnt preserved smdh tell the story right if u gonna tell it. Also tell it with the DOJ being involved telling the DA they shouldnt go forward with this case against her
A fellow cop is dead on your lawn. Your street is filled with fellow officers investigating this and YOU NEVER COME OUT OF THE HOUSE TO SEE WHATS HAPPENING 🧐🤔 No, because he already knew
JENN: "there's a guy." During trial Jen: He was my best friend, I loved him! ("there's a guy.") Yeah, no. I had to call EMS for a friend after a night of drinking and I never said "some girl."
Going out and getting liquored up and then getting behind the wheel of a vehicle is never smart. Cops should know better. We all know they get protected from the law.
Great recap of KR case, but there was even more to this with theories of the nephew, know to be a punk and had issues with TO, is the one who “allegedly” fought Okeefe in the basement and the dog probably attacked at that point. The flooring and carpet were supposedly removed from basement, the dog rehoused, and house sold all within months.
I wish you would get your information accurate before reporting it. They didn’t find tight pieces on the scene. They didn’t find them for 16 hours later the original church crew and nothing.
So is 36:35 the first time it’s mentioned that the homeowner (Brian Albert) is(was at this point) a Boston Cop too. And is/was it ever mentioned Brian Alberts brother is(at the time/possibly still) a Canton Detective?
Experts never agrees on anything because the money comes from opposing sides.Clearly the defence will not hire an expert that agrees with the prosecution point of view.
The didn’t hire the experts in this case - the FBI provided the experts to both sides but the defense was the only ones to use them for obvious reasons. The prosecution instead used Trooper Paul.
This happened on my town😢His nephew and niece lost their parents and he took them to raise them and now he is dead😢 The kid going to school with my daughter.
To be properly accurate you should have precise the very important fact that the defense experts reconstructionists aren’t paid by the defense but were sent by the FBI. The FBI also gave trooper Proctor’s Private texts messages to the defense. Why the FBI is involve ??
Professor plum was in the library with the candle stick. He didn’t do it. Scarlett Johansson was in the kitchen with the Lead Pipe. She wasn’t in the study. Only professor Plumb was in the study and had the opportunity and the weapon in the area.
Law enforcement has to happened? HAHAHAHA. @Law&Crime are you even paying attention to what is going on in this case?? How about the sketchy outcome of the trial?
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5:27 How did karen read know where to look for john ?
Jen Mccabe testimony : While Jen was driving kerry and karen back to the alberts house after looking for john at johns house.
Jen mccabe told kerry and Karen to look for the trees which will show up at the start of the alberts house.
Jen testified the reason why she told kerry and karren to "look for the trees it was so that kerry and karen would know how far they are to the alberts house as jen was driving closer to the house"
Those trees that jen mccabe was reffering to are the trees on the left side of fair view house right near the flag pole where johns body was.
So karen and kerry were looking out the window , looking for the trees , where jen knew john body was , pointed and hinted to look at the trees , so karen would find john quickly.
Why didnt this video play the full 911 call where jen mccabe tells 911 "he got out of the car, it may have been a couple of hours " when 911 dispatch asked jen how long was john in the snow ?
@@JK-jj9ko because they like to manipulate the audience
Stop saying a crime in heat of the moment. Because this was murder and a cover up 😡
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I feel like the glazing over the fact that there were a bunch of cops out driving drunk like it’s a normal occasion is quite disturbing…..
@@humanbeing8400 I know, that’s why it’s so disturbing.
Almost all cops do that. Even out here in the small towns….
Copland II. - btw thats actually a great movie imho
Cops , teachers and the Catholic , drink a lot of alcohol!
This!
Rehoming the dog, redoing the basement, selling the house, erasing/replacing phones, a biased and friend of the cops, lead investigator. It's such a joke, those are bad people.
I had a thought about that family in this case named ALBERTS. Do they give you the same feeling as the MURDAUGH family from South Carolina (Alex Murdaugh)...... The Alberts seem just like them because they're like BOSTON ROYALTY & they go back so far in Boston that they have favors from every important person in Boston like (Cops,Lawyers,Judges, Civilians). They are the type of family we call "KING MAKERS" Because in order to reach the important levels in Boston you have to come Kiss the ring....... I see Karen as 100% innocent
And all the butt dialing. It must be the butt dialing capital of the world.
Agreed
Hi, Im from Iceland and this case interests me. Has the family sold the house? Did they do all that you name because that's really sus.
@@thejudge3132 this is my thing that I noticed as well
Whats with all of these cops driving drunk? Unless they had a DD....
None of them had DD and they even drove patrol cars drunk.
@@DREWSLENS yep. It nuts.
The real sovereign beings.
Have you seen bodycam footage of cops getting pulled over while driving drunk? They’re never punished
Lol welcome to Massachusetts. I don't trust a single police officer in this state.
I can’t believe those poor kids literally lost both of their parents and then their uncle/guardian
It’s shocking 😢
The Netflix special that comes from this is gonna be insane.
@@Irish4oh7 going to be like the Murdoch special
Going to be full of lies
People still support Netflix?
@@Kurious-Katit's the modern TV programming method
@@MrMrsMurder😮😮😂😂😂
The angry phone messages she left him make me think she's not guilty. Whenever someone that's guilty starts leaving "concerned" voicemails on the victim's phone after they've committed the crime, they're pretty much always nice and jokey and then later worried in tone because they know cops will hear them. They feel acted/fake. Jodi Arias, for example. This woman just seemed upset and didn't seem like she was putting on a show for police.
She’s not guilty and I dare anyone in the DAs office to share some of the voicemails and texts they themselves have received from a significant other when upset. Because I guarantee there are some. It’s the nature of relationships. If someone accused me of a crime because of some of the angry texts I’ve sent my spouse…whew…I’d be doing life in prison.
@@Charmcity199 "If someone accused me of a crime because of some of the angry texts.... " Thats not what the crime is. . . far more complicated than your basic take.
Shes guilty @Charmcity199
She was acting ..... "Oh I can't reach you John" so I'm going to spew hate and threaten you so that everyone thinks I'm just mad at you!😅
@@Charmcity199and Karen Reed will be spending life in prison, not because of her nasty messages but the evidence showing her guilt!
Ex: bee line to John's body, her fake attempt to revive him, admitting she may have hit him! Broken taillight? Etc, etc!
I wouldn't believe anything those officers said.
Absolutely not!
Funny how his autopsy showed dog bite marks and the mcalberts dog was rehomed after owning him for multiple years 🤨
Yes, 6 to be exact
Dog bite don’t usually look like, torn skin should be all jagged etc not just lines running all the same direction. Dog shake their heads when they dig in with a bite etc those were to nice looking mark wise
@@jamsmit1249 It was also claw marks..
Sounds like bear @@jamsmit1249
"Rehomed" also never seen again, sus
Isn’t this like the 3rd or 4th time that the Boston Ploice have been involved in something like this. People have been saying it for years.
It's CANTON Police~ not BPD. ✌
BPD also “heavily “ involved.
And then they dropped the charges ! I wonder what was about to come out that they didn’t want to persuade anymore against this lady.
I think they've been corrupt since the department was formed @@dianecurran6987
The fact the police didn't even knock on the house that he was found outside is ridiculous... The police are clearly covering up
How unprofessional of that lead investigator to say “no nudes so far”, when talking about Mrs. Reads phone search!! He was extremely bias towards Mrs Read and this case should be dismissed totally bc there’s no way to prove she hit him or that it was with malicious intent!! Period! This looks more like a cover up!! Like that bashed her tail light somewhere else and brought the broken pieces back to the home where Mr Reads body was!!
That was the least offensive text. He said "she has a leaky balloon knot" making fun of her colonoscopy bag issues from 8 colon surgeries and he said much more awful things. He no longer has a job
most cops are gross and unprofessional like this. they dont like to hire professional people. just those who follow the code of silence.
She was Framed by crooked cops..ALBERTS, HIGGINS, AND MCCABES! .... AND THEIR WIVES/GIRLFRIENDS. HOLD THE MASSACHUSETTS COMRADES RESPONSIBILE!
Same MSP that missed 32000 text messages in the Birchmore case.
The same officers and same DA!
Ridiculous
I love everyone whose passing attention. Insanity!
It's mind boggling
Someone in the Mccabe house murdered John
Why not mention the fact that the FBI doesn't even think Katen did it ?
Seems some FKR’ers didn’t get the memo last week that; their blogger dude said nothing will ever happen to the Alberts, etc, and Ted Daniel (Boston 25) said the FBI investigation was wrapped up a while ago after the FBI found nothing - no evidence of any alleged "third-party culprit", "frame job" and "conspiracy" which most of us already knew and for reasons that go without saying.
Best to try and keep up FKR’ers!
Cite it real quick. Haven't read or seen that.
@@korbendallas7181 did you not watch the trial . The defense brought in the experts to determine his death and they said science and the laws of physics says that Karen read did not hit him and fly him 30 feet away period .
@@lukescruggs3697 I didn't say that. or ask.
Why would the FBI have let her go to trial if they didn't think she did it
As much as I think she didn't do it. I am also very sad for his family. Sadly, I don't think they will ever know what really happened. My heart goes out to them
The google part is enough for me to prove she didnt do it. Clearly the people in the house know what happened.
If you had watched the trial you would have seen the employee of Cellbrite extractions testify that the google search did not happen at 2:27am, it happened after 6am, AFTER KR ran to JOK's body that no one else could see because he was laying on the ground covered in snow, but KR knew exactly where he was because Clearly, Karen Read knew what happened.
yup Code of Silence. They wont speak too much to lose. But I believe the truth always comes out.
Didn'xt you hear the app company representative? He explained it very well snd said the time recorded is the time the app is open, not the time of search.
@@MariaZamora-j2n yup. She searched it after John was found because Karen asked her to
Having watched the trial I think it’s safe to say Karen Read is innocent !!!!!!!!
Isn't this also the same law enforcement responsible for Sandra Birchmore's grooming and eventual murder?
It might very well be that the dog bit him and they got into a fight over the dog. The dog bite is most definitely the evidence that something transpired in the home.
I originally thought she was guilty. Then started watching the trial. Then the second I saw the arm I knew that was a dog bite. As someone who was attacked by TWO PITBULLS, Those holes and rips in the flesh look exactly like my leg looked. Then the family apparently got rid of the FAMILY dog. SHE is innocent. Plus if she hit him at 1230am then he would have been frozen after laying unconscious for almost 6 hrs in 18deg weather. So I think Higgins knows exactly what happened and his explanation for going to the police dept at 2am, drunk, makes NO SENSE
Yes, but there was testimony that there was no canine DNA found on JOK, so more likely the scratches were caused by the broken taillight on KR's car as she backed into him
@@kittycaryall Scene was already contaminated with Snow and Reed's intervention so! And the bruise on the hand definitely indicate that he punched someone as well!
That makes zero sense though I feel like people aren't paying attention because what part of that he never got out of the car, his GPS and phone tracking didn't show him near the road he had his phone on him, he wasn't in their house and multiple witnesses said so. I truly believe he was planted their even with the amount of blood on the snow it's too little. He was killed and planted their left to die. The defense has no strong evidence or alibi Karen didn't do it. How do we know the dog didn't try to help him or drag him to safety and that's why he got puncture wounds? If there was a fight people would've seen and gotten on CCTV footage
@@gossipqueen1013Karens phone had actually connected to Johns WiFi approximately 15 minutes after he had been killed.
That was by far the best episode of any Law&Crime Network video I've seen... and I love Sidebar! so that says something about the case and how well this episode was put together. Well Done!
I agree. I attempted to watch many on this case and just couldn't get through ten minutes. This one kept me watching!
After reviewing the facts of this case, I think she’s innocent. This whole thing is off.
Fr, like the Google search? Like what?
Nah she's guilty!
"did l hit him?"
"did l hit him?"
She said it herself!!!
@@tes2bebe115 That is not evidence, she was distraught and not one police report states that she said that in the initial investigation. People say things all the time in the heat of the moment and there are several witness that testified that she was asking if she could have. His arm is part of the evidence that led the ME to say undetermined as well as no injuries to his lower body. He was not hit by a car especially her car.
@@tes2bebe115if that's all it takes to convince you, I hope you're never called for jury duty ... definitely a very complicated case...
@mw5213 l go by facts and common sense, she dropped by him off in the last place seen alive his body never got (pinged) close to the front door. Do you really believe a family of cops will leave a body on their driveway?
ABSOLUTELY NONSENSE!
I watched news clips about the mistrial but I had noooo idea how insane this case truly was until this video! There’s plenty of reasonable doubt that’s for sure!!!
exactly! there is reasonable doubt all over this case. plus no CW evidence except tainted solo cups n missing ring footage
The police have covered up worse cases and I don’t put anything past them💯❤️
Hmmmm 🤔
Which ones are worse? Thanks.
@@leannemo7382 Miss Sandra Birchmore
Uvalde police department, LAPD, should I continue? 😂😂
@@leannemo7382anytime
The thing that's really sad about this is Kerrie saw how distraught Karen was and she used that as a weapon against her in court. These people are so sick and twisted this cover up is just messed up
As an impartial observer, I think Jenn McCabe played a crucial part in this crime. The Google search hours before the body is discovered implies knowledge of his location.
There's no way she is responsible for this. This happened in the basement and it was covered up by the McAlberts.
Your nuts lol use your head goofy. Happened in the basement but they have the taillight off her truck and she drove right to his body buried in the snow. 😂 man if I ever want to get awya with murder I hope your the judge or jury 😂
That's why I'm so curious about the civil suit. I'm surprised the jury was hung, but I don't see how another jury could also believe he was hit by a car at all...
I'm not saying his cause of death is obvious (basement or not) but he wasn't killed by being flung 30 feet from being struck in the arm by a car.
lol. she just hppened to know where he was in the snow?
@@H3li0s_kun exactly.
@retpal2302 exactly and admitted to hitting him. I been following this case before law and crime. She messed up alot.
Whole thing stinks …
Gosh, it reeks
There’s definitely reasonable doubt
@@bunnyluver2176definitely
She's a killer fellas
Not to mention, the poor dog got framed for nothing.
She didn't do it!! His cop buddies know exactly what happened!
She ran into him going reverse! Funny how you ignore that proven fact! 🤦♀️ she is a murderer! Trying your best to lie and be entitled!
So why the tf was she ranting about "did I hit him? Did I hit him?"
Hard to believe someone would have that kind of injuries and a shattered tail light from backing into someone.
FBI says no cover up. Yet yoy found one 😂
She swiped him. She hated him. She’s evil. Simple.
She appears to be innocent to me and there was definitely a cover up.
Yes, the coverup is by KR and her blogger and her high paid LA lawyer, by accusing everyone in the town including a teenager and a dog.
@@kittycaryall Who else had motive to kill him?
Its crystal clear Karen Read is innocent.
False. She did it. Admitted it. Says she didn’t think she hit him that hard. Why is she saying that? Lol
@@amberstorm1139A child could see she’s guilty. She admitted it. Have you forgotten that. She didn’t think she hit him that hard. Those are on her texts. Lol. Explain that. To yanetti.
Where are the texts that she admitted it? I’ve never seen those and I watched the entire trial.
She's guilty..how did she know her boyfriend was hidden under the snow . Went right up to him . That's the clincher for me
How did she know exactly where to find him if she didn't do it?
Jenn McCabe saying “i know i know i know”, reacting to Karen Read seeing her basically dead boyfriend for the first time. How does “she know”? Because she had already seen him in that condition hours earlier…. Thats how “she knows”
Agreed. They stayed inside and watched as he died in the snow.
@@crystalgray79 and thats why she was up all night
You know there are such cases when everyone is guilty and probably really conspired together to remove the man
But this doesn't seem to be one of those cases. Otherwise, seems to me they would have taken his body off their lawn and left him somewhere very far from their house
There is so much wrong with this case as well as the investigation. Something that has bothered me is that the Alberts never went outside that morning. There's a dead man in your front yard and you don't go outside to see what is going on? Especially because it's not just some random man out there, it's someone you know. No curiousity? I'm nosy AF. But if it's someone you know, aren't you going to show some concern?
Tail light breaking on the low impact incident. Highly doubtful
Exactly, never could have broken in the driveway. Had to have happened when she angrily, drunkenly backed into him at 34 Fairview
Well you should let the FBI and ARRCA (the leading accident re-creation experts worldwide) that they got it wrong because they said the damage to her car didn’t come from hitting John and the injuries to him didn’t come from a car hitting him.
The kind of plastic that taillights are made of would not shatter into pieces. It would crack, buckle in, or completely come off. This “evidence” should never have been admitted at trial. No chain of custody, among other questions.
@@pineywoodslawandcrimeespecially a Lexus lx570 taillight. That isn’t a Hyundai
The police never proved Karen was intoxicated so why is this guy saying it.
all the cops out that night were
@@glee21012Yes! Ironic that all were drinking and driving longer than Karen was. (The Brians had been at another bar first) Chris Albert was in a DUI Hit and Run case, Paul O’Keefe who can’t let go of misplaced anger, in a DUI, paralyzed an older man. IMO, the civil suit is a money grab, presumably to raise the O’Keefe children left behind. I read John adopted the kids over Paul due to their finances.
.09 bac sometimes around 7 am actually was due to drinking holy water.
WHAT??? Karen did have a blood test at the hospital.
Are Wppl intoxicated all the time? 😌
When I watched the video of karen Read backing into JO car then driving away, it showed the tail light cracked but intact. That's when I realized the tail light pieces had to be planted at the crime scene. There's no other possible explanation. That video was filmed sometime just after 5am before JO was found. Then the expert stated that Jenn McCabe did do a search at 2:27am "hos long to die in cold" proving she knew JO was laying in the snow since he wasn't found until 6am!..😮
Yep. There's simply too much going on with the authorities to trust anything out of them.
@@rebeccaswift7588 proctor brought them and sprinkled them around I swear
Exactly, and that’s just one of many inconsistencies.
@@itsLynzi Oh for sure he did with Trooper Bukake
exactly what I thinking.
Idk what happened but idt a jury could either. Perhaps due to poor policing or crime scene investigation or whatever, the evidence is all over the place. If I was a juror there’s no way I could convict.
It was a cover up, no doubt. John probably found out something the other corrupted cops didn’t want him to know, so they silenced him. It’s obvious the dog started biting at John after John was in a struggle with one of them. Super sad to see police get away with this stuff.
What about the judge’s connection to the officers? Isn’t she an aunt or Godmother?
She denies any relationship but a brother of one of the officers (McCabe) implied there is and even called her "Aunt Bev".
“Aunt Bev” has multiple conflicts of interest and should have recused herself from the beginning. Her blatant annoyance with the defense team was awful to watch.
The way the perpetrator carried out the crime shows that he had planned it beforehand, indicating severe psychological deterioration.
Omg this is old news 😊
@@CleoGravelnot exactly old news when she is still the Judge on the case. It is STILL troubling now just as much as it was when this first came out, if not more NOW.
There is no evidence an SUV hit him. Ex ortho nurse here.
There was no evidence he was beaten up and bitten and scratched by a dog!
@@Ji5-24other than the bites and scratch marks on his arm. There is a police K9 trainer that did a video on dog bites and showed how they would look exactly like John’s arm, it is here on TH-cam. I suggest you watch it - it is done by a current police officer so you should have no reason to distrust it - he also has actual examples in the form of fake arms that they use to train the police dogs with.
@@bumblingbe I’m not going into the conspiracy theory. The FBI upon a lengthy investigation (even calling on a Federal Grand Jury, found no evidence of any “alleged” third-party culprit, frame job and conspiracy, I therefore trust those findings of the FBI. It also seems evident that the defense won’t even be relying upon it at the retrial.
Did any of you watch the trial?
If offer John was SUCH A GREAT FRIEND to Jen, why does her 911 say there a Guy?
Because Jen is covering for people and she’s a rude little b
If they were such great pals they would've made it to that "man" funeral
Her husband Matt also did the “distancing” by referring to him as “the guy”, but they claim to be friends. The “McAlberts” couldn’t be shadier with countless examples throughout the trial. Have you seen the incredible expert analysis over on Truth Revealed?? It was gripping. Justice for John, and it’s not in framing Karen.
@@pamelamac2879 hella
Also the body language between John and JMc at the waterfall footage....they are not close. She completely invented this..he seemed friendly with Matt McCabe. Karen is innocent.
The fact that the victim was found in front of an officer's house and never interviewed the homeowner was suspicious. I thought investigators also interviewed the neighbors if there's an accident or crime in the vicinity
If google searches are used to convict (which they are all the time) then the google search by Mrs McCade (sp?) should be held at face value that she googled that hypothermia search around 2am. Prosecutors can’t have it both ways.
I came here to say the same thing. I know nothing about this case, but seeing that one piece of info about the timing of the Google search and deletion appears to be very crucial.
Yes exactly!!! You can't have it both ways I've seen so many cases that have put people in prison for life because of their Google searches... And now all the sudden celebrate isn't dependable?? Give me a break!! I can't stop responding to people on here I got to go LOL
Are you intelligent? Did you watch the trial. Do you know the evidence? Lol. It’s proven she didn’t do it at 2:27am. It’s proven it happened when Karen demanded it at 6;23. Stop talking utter rubbish
A botched investigation and a clear cover up, but the state wants to ignore and the evidence showing biting marks from a dog which is subsequently rehoused and prosecute the victim's partner is absurd.
Trooper Paul and the word "expert" should never be an identifier.
💤The defense proved indisputably 1~The victim was punched out , 2~ attacked by dog, 3~ left out to freeze.
💤👻💤Guilty judge💤👻💤
Nobody thought to question the homeowner….? Ya, ok. She’s definitely not guilty
Those poor children!! My heart breaks for this family.
I think they farmed her poor woman . I live in Boston as well and I’ve had a lot of incidents with corrupt cops up this way .
Framed ***
She isn't a poor woman 😂
Something smells reallllllllly fishy about this case!
🐟🐠🐡
Come on law and crime, did you really skip over the reversed sally port video altogether? As well as many other bizarre details.
Yeah, I’m a fan of the channel, but giving a complex case like this 45 min is more injustice.
SERIOUSLY! That should of closed the case. @Jenny your so right!
More tempering, fabricating evidence
As a foreigner i'm baffled how they go to court with so little evidence. Is this usual in the US? Just asking as a foreigner.
No but it does happen - they were hoping she would take a plea deal because unfortunately that is usually what happens because it costs massive amounts of money to fight like Karen is doing. So no it doesn’t go to court a lot, usually it’s someone taking a plea for a lesser charge even if they didn’t commit the crime.
Huh? Why put this out today and not include what we know about Sandra birchmore. More than proctor will be a problem
I was thinking exactly the same!
Thank you. The fbi found 30,000 some texts messages but that one police officer didn’t LOL. Yeah I don’t his testimony from the read case one bit.
Interesting the woman said I found a man I just pulled up to him, but she knew very well who it was
Also why didn't she say Officer John O'Keefe & why didn't the Alberts ever come out of their house when all that was going on on their front lawn, the lawn of a cop???
She was just trying to relay the information to 911 in the fastest way. She also said that one of the women was working on him. She knew them, too. What is the difference? Like she would say to 911, "I just found my friend and the guardian of my daughter's best friend in the snow.." Which one would get an ambulance there faster?
@@kittycaryall Wow, are you really this dense?? Had she said he was an off duty BPD, she knew the overwhelming response of police that would bring & then the house would've been SEARCHED, like it should've been!!!
@@kittycaryallShe was in front of her sister’s house. Why not pound on the door yelling help! and get blankets!? Why not get the first responder who lives there- at the house-where an officer is down-? but Jen McCabe stayed in the car whispering about the guy. She’s the real wack job.
If you’re going to make a video at least post the facts. The tail light pieces were not found till after Proctor had the car. When Jon was found NO pieces were found not a single piece.
No shoe... No hat.... NOTHING!!!!
That’s because they are covered in snow. It’s easy to go back. We have vision of Karen at 5;07am. Her car taillight is busted. Huge hole. Zoom it. So what you say after this is irrelevant. The damage was done.
I’m so shocked at micheal proctor text messages this is crazy
The defense said it was 227 in the morning because that is what her phone said😮
I don't know how many cases I've watched in the phone records are what have them in prison for life! NOW all the sudden in the Karen Read case that doesn't matter the phone record is wrong.... Unbelievable!
There's alot of misinformation in this segment. Poorly done.
Yep, it's like they didn't watch the evidence presented at the trial
@@kittycaryall That's for sure
and you wonder why cops get a bad name
There's a cover up for sure!
These sloppy investigators owed it to their “brother” to investigate his case the right way 🤦🏻
The Defense didn’t call in “ their own expert”. They were given to both the commonwealth and Defense from the FBI Commenwealth chose not to use them
@@korrenakennedy4921 exactly
Aidan (turtleboy) did a reconstruction at 34 Fairview (crime scene) where he made attempts to back up at 24mph as KR has been accused of doing and hitting JO..turtleboy wasnt able to make it to 24mph in reverse. He claims it cant be done. It was snowing when JO was found at 34 Fairview laying in Brian Alberts front yard. It wasnt snowing when turtleboy attempted the reconstruction..
Definitely stinks of a cover up. I don’t think Karen did it
Whether she did it or not, there’s way too much reasonable doubt to convict.
Im sorry the google search at 2am? That had me, she innocent
Tail light pieces were not found near his body nor were they found early on they were found later when the crime scene wasnt preserved smdh tell the story right if u gonna tell it. Also tell it with the DOJ being involved telling the DA they shouldnt go forward with this case against her
Where's the evidence of the DOJ allegedly telling the DA that?
Brian looks guilty they set her up to cover it up.
RIP JOHN.
A fellow cop is dead on your lawn. Your street is filled with fellow officers investigating this and YOU NEVER COME OUT OF THE HOUSE TO SEE WHATS HAPPENING 🧐🤔 No, because he already knew
JENN: "there's a guy." During trial Jen: He was my best friend, I loved him! ("there's a guy.") Yeah, no. I had to call EMS for a friend after a night of drinking and I never said "some girl."
You said you'd never say, "'𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦' 𝘨𝘪𝘳𝘭.
Jenn didn't either. She said, "There's a man ... "
Fight in the house he fell backwards and fractured his skull ...they probably lifted him out into the snow.
Going out and getting liquored up and then getting behind the wheel of a vehicle is never smart. Cops should know better. We all know they get protected from the law.
Great recap of KR case, but there was even more to this with theories of the nephew, know to be a punk and had issues with TO, is the one who “allegedly” fought Okeefe in the basement and the dog probably attacked at that point. The flooring and carpet were supposedly removed from basement, the dog rehoused, and house sold all within months.
If she's guilty wheres the evidence!
Her knowing exactly where to find him is evidence.
thats not physical evidence
So who scratched and bit his face the SUV 🤨
There were no scratches or bites on his face. If you're not even going to watch the trial then why say anything? ✌
On his face?
You mean his arm?
I wish you would get your information accurate before reporting it. They didn’t find tight pieces on the scene. They didn’t find them for 16 hours later the original church crew and nothing.
No one questioned why no footage of him going out the house to that area in the first place?
He was placed while he was already dead
She 100% did not commit that crime
So is 36:35 the first time it’s mentioned that the homeowner (Brian Albert) is(was at this point) a Boston Cop too. And is/was it ever mentioned Brian Alberts brother is(at the time/possibly still) a Canton Detective?
Karen Read 100% thought he was out Tom catting around. No evidence of person hitting SUV, nor SUV hitting JOK
Now consider all the non-police victims that have died at the hands of law enforcement but their cases will never see the light of day
Proof that the victims did nothing wrong first?
We thought the first trial was wild, second trial is going to be wilder!!!
Funny how these are our sworn law enforcement are a bunch of sneaky drunks doing dui n having after parties 😂
so much Code of Silence going on. Honesty isn't encouraged, camaraderie is.
Experts never agrees on anything because the money comes from opposing sides.Clearly the defence will not hire an expert that agrees with the prosecution point of view.
The didn’t hire the experts in this case - the FBI provided the experts to both sides but the defense was the only ones to use them for obvious reasons. The prosecution instead used Trooper Paul.
@@bumblingbe
"They didn't hire the expert?"Do you mean arcaa id a govermental agency?
Reasonable doubt all over this case.
This happened on my town😢His nephew and niece lost their parents and he took them to raise them and now he is dead😢 The kid going to school with my daughter.
Thumbs down for including charges that KR has been found not guilty 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
Wrong. They didn't come back with a unanimous verdict. It came out after the fact. That's not how courts work.
Bruise on right hand , seems like a fight
To be properly accurate you should have precise the very important fact that the defense experts reconstructionists aren’t paid by the defense but were sent by the FBI. The FBI also gave trooper Proctor’s Private texts messages to the defense.
Why the FBI is involve ??
Lmfaoooooooo that cop reading the text saying she ain’t got no ssa is hilarious
No taillight pieces found that night.
Professor plum was in the library with the candle stick. He didn’t do it. Scarlett Johansson was in the kitchen with the Lead Pipe. She wasn’t in the study. Only professor Plumb was in the study and had the opportunity and the weapon in the area.
Funny how on the 911 call Jen says “ I just pulled up and found him” so Jen saw him first and found him not karen! Interesting statement
She didn’t even say he was an officer. Why because she didn’t want every cop in town there
so cold. sad n evil
Going out and getting liquored up and then getting behind the wheel of a vehicle is never smart. Cops should know better.
All of this should've been atleast a 3 hour documentary
So weird I just had finished my FKR bracelet and this popped up. 😮
Free Karen Read, Justice for John
Free turtleboy too 🐢
Where’s Chloe!!?!
YOU'RE SICK!!
@@tll5293ok Jen McCabe 😂
Correction “nobody” admits he entered the home!
Ain't that the truth!!! Lotsa butt dialing liars... I wouldn't want them as my friends never mind enemies...
Caitlin accidentally did during testimony
Is it a murder mystery or a murder cover-up? I'm already on the side of the latter.
Law enforcement has to happened? HAHAHAHA. @Law&Crime are you even paying attention to what is going on in this case?? How about the sketchy outcome of the trial?