The CRUELEST Fate | Stroggification | FULL Quake Lore
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Quake series is full of chaos and horror. The Strogg are quite possibly one of the most dangerous species that humanity every encountered. Not only did Earth fail to defend themselves, but millions of humanity also fell prey to the twisted and evil experiments of The Strogg Empire. One of these experiments could be described as a fate worse than death.
What was Stroggification? What makes it so terrifying? And is it really the worst fate imaginable? In this video, we explore the lore and story behind Stroggification in the Quake series.
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00:00 Introduction
01:15 The Strogg vs. Earth
04:23 The Stroggification Process
11:10 The Creation of Stroyent
14:17 Legacy
16:32 Closing Thoughts
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Which fate is worse?
Jeff, being turned into a Stalker, or Stroggification?
@@SkyrionnStalker... I think but what do you think? Well both sucks but yeah...
Stroggification, you're left aware of your fate far too long, and the Strogg are just way more utterly barbaric compared to the Combine.@@Skyrionn
Quake 2 storyline, maybe also how quake 1 was a bit weird story wise. Wicked vid bruz
well however, the stroggification is a part of quake 2, not 4, except that one scene with mathew cane.. its however in quake 2 that we see the most of it.
Fun fact, like the Strogg, the French are also controlled by a horrific creature known as the macron.
Thanks man. I needed that laugh.
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I laughed harder than I should have
And they both married their schoolteachers
Quake: Storggification is a living nightmare and the worst possible fate
Mechanicus: From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me!
servitors gaming
This does make me wonder, what would the Mechanicus think of Stroggification
@@ChaseDaOrk3767they would be disgusted by xeno mutilation of the human form. Unauthorised modifications especially made by xenos is a tech-heresy of the highest order.
@@JonyTony2018this would also be technology from the dark ages of man so they would probably become trophies.
@@ChaseDaOrk3767 Thaaat's a good question... *especially* when you look at the Skitarii
8:49 I like how Kane is struggling as much as he can through the process but once he sees the finished product he just sorta checks himself out like "Okay, maybe it wasn't *that* bad" right before seeing a big ass needle and going "waitwaitwaitwaitwait!"
He also has a rather mild reaction to pain, too, just kinda grunting as if he's being hit with a stick. The other guy has a more believable reaction
Much higher pain tolerance ig. Though fear does make you experience everything much more intensely.
The fuckin' thing must be AT LEAST be a 1 gauge needle.
@@cdru515Maybe the 3 boat loads of steroids and such injected into him helped with pain?
@@cdru515 i remember Matthew Kane being talked about as a badass before his Stroggification
he probably has just a lot of pain tolerance
Quake horror is quite underrated in my opinion. This is just one of the worst fate imaginable !
and ive seen so many people writhe that quake was their childhood. How are they proud?
I would gladly subject myself to the procedure as long as I'm spared the mind control bit at the end. I guess everything is relative lol. Give me my free upgrade!
"this is the poison that smells so sweet" - Metallica, album St.Anger
I used to tell/show my friends this and they would always say they had no idea Quake was so fucked up
it's not your opinion but it's just a fact, cuz mostly people that know this game to its core r mostly already in their late 20s or more than 30s
so yea ofc not so many newer generation of gamers would likely to know this game either from old gamer mention it or through some new advertising that mostly missed or... from random vids on YT
My best guess on these guys is that they were originally created to be used as super-soldiers before eventually turning on their masters.
Either that or it began with an AI running out of control. I think they'd put some sort of limits on a super soldier, so it wouldn't start to manufacture itself and build its own faction.
Quite possibly
It could have also been just a species that had 'evolved' with cybernetics to such extent they became what they are now.
Maybe, or its humanity from the future, after all its all transformed humans.
It makes more sense if they were created by someone or something. Because how else would a specie that lives only for war evolve if they had not interest in gathering ressources? And let's say they wipe out every single life form they can find. Then what?
The stroggification of our character in Quake 4 was the most brutal POV scene I've seen in a game, even looking at it today after all these years, and after games have reach a greater level of realism, I'm still taken aback by how brutal this scene is. That said, I wish they made another narrative driven Quake game, when it comes to plot it has as much potential if not more than the Doom universe, yet they've barely touched it in 19 years, that makes absolutely no sense.
Just goes to show that „realism“ is a bullsh!t category that often ruins intense moments. It’s a game. Nothing about it is real. For the triple-A industry, realism only means the visuals - storytelling be damned.
I‘d rather have a realistic STORY or MECHANICS. Keep in mind that realistic means logically consistent with the established system. I have unlimited bullets? Ok, just give me a reason that makes sense in the setting, such as Doomguy‘s suit compressing slain demons‘ souls into ammo, fuel and health. I can work with that.
I just want a remaster of Quake 4 with updated visual enhancements just for that scene.
If we had to suffer, so must the new generations 😂
@@ArDeeMeeRealism is very often the wrong word, not necessarily the wrong idea. People generally should be saying “believability” instead of realism
I'd rather see another Lovecraftian Quake first before more Strogg Quake.
Devs - "Damn this scene is pretty damn fkn brutal" "How about we make it even worse by putting someone infront of the queue so you see whats coming for you" "Yes. Lets do that."
The Adeptus Mechanicus be taking notes like, "Huh. Why didn't we think of a standardized, conveyor belt system for our servitors? Further, let's get one of those Stroyant critters, it seems way more efficient than corpse starch."
The mechanicus do have conveyor belt factory scale servitor creation. There are several stories that describe it in great horrific detail.
In books they explain servitor making process. It is literally stroggification. Nothing different
Interesting note about the Strogg: their ingame AI is probably pretty close to how they would actually act. It's no longer a creature with thoughts and feelings, but rather a machine programmed for a task and ordered by an RTS commander. iirc they aren't actually a hivemind because the individual units don't think at all, it's just lines of code
They can spout insults at you and still run away
@@Celestial_Cryptid Pro gamer move.
just like commies
@@m0-m0597 I doubt you even know what communism actually is.
@@Baconator5642 grow up kiddo
There's also the Firemen from Bioshock Infinite. Sinners locked inside a metal suit, their bodies constantly on fire, while being force-fed Plasmids that heal constantly, but do nothing to stop the constant suffering from the fire. They have no free will, cannot commit suicide, and act as guards for the floating city of Columbia. Their only hope is to be defeated in battle, at which point they explode in a huge fireball, ending their suffering. They are suicidal combatants, stopping only when the enemy is dead, or they are defeated. They are terrifying opponents.
Not going to validate Infinite in any way, nor is it worth pretending it's a real BioShock game.
Grow up.@@tanburanbu
dont forget the Big Daddys and delta series in bioshock 1 and 2
Having the same name as the protagonist (Kane) really helped make me like this game. Idk it's a totally different experience to the normal silent protagonist trope because it's not just me putting myself in the role, it's like actually being there with all the marines calling out your name as they get picked off and brutilized... really adds to the horror.
You can't kill the Messiah ;)
Kane lives
the best part is how the medics and combat technicians will call out to you and ask for you to "hold on a second" while they run up and patch you up. That extra bit of service is just MMMMMM so good!
@@williamgarrison1707 Brotherhood of Nod?
@@4T3hM4kr0n Thanks for reminding me of Command and Conquer.
Damn, at least the Mechanicus would lobotimze you being turning you into a servitor. Never played the Quake games so I'm very interested to learn more about the universe!
A lobotomy does not affect pain levels, nor does it act like some kind of memory wipe or personality reset. Both procedures seem equally painful. There is an argument to be made that sproggification is worse. Being transformed into a servitor means one retains some measure of humanity, while getting sprogged is complete dissolution of your physical being, from your limbs to your senses and thoughts. It feels like comparing Big Brother, "a boot forever stomping a human face", dystopian horror, to Soylent Green (which seems to be a direct inspiration) or Invasion of the Body Snatchers, cosmic horror. Personally, being a servitor seems worse because you have to be self aware enough to be useful and trustworthy, whereas it seems like getting sprogged transforms your brain to the point where you have no concept of self, or only enough to understand your part in the hive mind. No thoughts, no worries. Whereas getting turned into a servitor is used as threat and punishment in WH40k.
There are cases where a servitor still has some form of conscious and memories of their past life
they actually dont! i remember reading a short story about the POV of becoming a servitor where the servitor was only lobotomized after they had all their limbs chopped off
Also the lobotomisation may happen at the end of the process depending on your crime or the temper of the tech priest.
Mechanicus don't lobotomize servitors. They just make you locked in syndorme then add cybernetics.
I just finished replaying Quake 4 after a loooong time, and the Stroggification section was still every bit as gut-wrenching as it was the first time I played the game back when it came out. Truly marvelous.
This and the dead space two self eye stab are some of the most memorable moments in gaming :D
"Stroggification is the worst thing that can ever happen to a human." - Strogg
"In our universe, we call it a Tuesday." - Adeptus Mechanicus
I always understood that, the nexus overtakes only the body.
But the person inside is still concious and indipendant.
A helpless observer and passanger in their own body.
Was thinking exactly of this. The chip overtakes their cerebelum so it can directly control the body, but the main brain still has the original mind of the human. If the stroggs didnt bother to make sure you were dead before turning you into biofuel, i dont think they would make sure that your mind died, as long as you couldnt control your body its enough.
Such a horrible concept
As I used to be kid, I didn’t get a chance to learn the fate of captured marines, but I’m feeling heartbroken for them and everything they had gone through. They didn’t deserve this, which is why I always put them out of their misery.
Thank you for researching and sharing this history for all of us, Quake fans! 💛
I'm happy to do so! There's so much Quake content on the way too!
same. in Quake 2, i would just try to leave the ones in the detention center alone as i felt bad for hurting them. not even knowing that they're called insane in the game files clued me into them.
@@Skyrionnsoooo darth vader treatment?
Just a point of clarification; Many of the torsos you see throughout the game were not the products of wanton experimentation, but were instead a procedural part of Strogg industry. Some were wetware computers for facotries, others were expendable batteries, while others were early stage digestion units at the Strogg waste processing plants.
I do enjoy the Strogg aspect of Quake; I think the idea of a race that depend on harvesting organic life as their method of reproduction to be a disturbing and fascinating concept. And the Stroggification process being like a slaughterhouse ghost house ride, and an extended game over sequence is a memorable sight. I also like the less humanoid Strogg enemy types (like the Stream Protectors), and wish we could see more of that; indicating they've harvested several races, which could provide some interesting lore if they expanded on it, more.
Good video. Would also like to see more Quake/Strogg focused vids.
Such fond memories of my mom buying Quake II for me when I was a kid. Would have been 9 or 10 when I got it and it was one of the first games I really remember going through and trying to find all the secrets and stuff.
You played THIS when you were 9???
@@flops0317yeah I dont know why any mother would buy this for her child ...
@@aPEEEEx_ calm down lol its just a silly shooter game and the graphics back then were cartoony, you have to dig deep to actually find the horror side of quake, if you just play and shoot things you will barely even notice a story.
I played quake 1 shareware, duke nukem 3D and Doom 2 when I was 11. One of the best moments in my life.
Same, here, want to know if you or anyone here played Heretic or Hexen. Good times.
Missed an opportunity to talk about the waste processing facility, but I guess I'll fill in the blanks;
"Nothing would go to waste, however even then there's a twisted nuance to 'waste' when it comes to the strogg proccessing bodies for their war efforts...
In the rare case, If extremely unlucky, (horrible as it was to forcefully be converted into a strogg unit) a convert could end up as faulty or rejected,
and a fate worse than death would befall them.
By the higher powers that be under the strogg scientists, not quite knowing what to do with their failed yet animate soldier experiments,
such rejects would be condemned to a state of existence as barely alive organic husks bolted together onto shoddy metal frames that easily could fall apart,
doomed to roam the rotting slums of the biowastes within the waste processing facility complex, one might say 'zombies', and that wouldn't be far off the truth,
but they are still more or less alive, and quite hostile regardless of their impaired capabilities.
The most forsaken among such failed transfers roaming this putrid place would be known as the 'slimy transfer'.
A true nightmare fate, discarding the host of all higher thinking capabilities, turning him in a mindless zombie creature with rotting flesh held together by corroded mechanical bodyparts,
voraciously craving the fleshy remains of corpses strewn about in the waste complex, and a vile ability to retaliate against intruders by projectile vomiting highly corrosive acid towards them.
How the failed transfers exactly ended up in this godforsaken place is still not entirely known, but I can only imagine what hell one must suffer to exist like this..."
Loving how much Love Q4 is getting this year, first Civvie and now Skyr?
Yeah, I loved that game, I absolutely love the continuation and implied narrative of the Stroggos War.
It's a good time ☺
Fingers crossed it gets a remaster of it's own. I know many consider it to be a low-point for the series, but I still enjoyed the experience.
Used to watch the trailers for it every day waiting for it's release.
It really is a fun military shooter. Actually feels like a large scale war.
The opening cinematic for Quake 2 is one of my favorites in video game history. And the stroggification scene in Q4 is obviously one of the most memorable sequences in FPS games.
I feel bad for the stroyant processing creature. Imagine having your entire body turned into a living factory, constantly pumped full of who knows what just so they can take what comes out the other side
To me, the sheer automation of stroggification process is horrific. There's no one there beside you to comfort you. You see and hear the terror of the previous person a few minutes ahead of you. The blood spatter you see around the corner is the only communication between you and your forerunners. The echoes of voices in the facility provide no need for guesses as to how world works around you, especially since you're stuck in place.
No one shoots. No one speaks. No one bargains. No one escapes. Few guards
Yes! And imagine the noise of machinery, and of course, the smell in there.
To me, it's incredibly funny. I mean, it wouldn't be funny if it were real, obvs, but the fact this is supposed to be a hyper-intelligent race with space travel and teleportation... and they can't even make their factories run cleanly and efficiently, lol?
"Guys, we have laser technology, teleportation, and the ability to augment biological life. But TRUST me, it's CRUCIAL that we chop up the humans with rusty saws blades and big needles, and make them watch all of it!" 😂
Let's be real, it's only that brutal because it's meant to scare the player. No such race could exist in real life (thankfully), it would make no sense for them to somehow be incredibly advanced, yet so stupid and brutish at the same time.
_(And before anyone says something about humans and livestock, we're talking space-faring levels of civilization here. The humans in this universe also have advanced sci-fi tech, it's not like they're below the Strogg there or anything. Any scientifically-advanced-enough race would simply be past things like war, butchering, and slavery. Those things, and type-2 civilizations, just don't go together. The strogg are obviously designed just to be scary, not to make logical sense... :P)_
@@bugjams Strogg works like if it works it works and Strogg is technologically levels above humanity.
@@bugjamsHave you seen any space civilisation to be so certain that they are beyond carnality?
You obviously need to play Stellaris. Typical FPS drone.
I remember playing this game
That scene was completely expected. "Oh I'm going to be saved" then your legs get sawn off as your guy screams.
It was memorable, even for a game which wasn't highly rated. And the shooting aspects were top notch too
Great game great scene, giving a basis behind the usual "one man saves the world somehow" trope
as you were describing the process, I saw cracks that could lead to its destruction.
optimally, you'd want to wipe their memories and free will first, and give access last. this would reduce the repercussions of the pain the victims experienced, as they would believe they were "willingly" undergoing the surgery. providing access last ensures that no defects or escapees have access to critical information.
also, why not put them to sleep during the surgery in the first place?
obviously, as this would get in the way of a compelling story, so none of it was done, but I like to ponder anyways.
Theres an expose onboard the hannibal that you can overhear from one of the doctors doing an autopsy on one of the strogg. Something about how "all higher brain functions have ceased, the transciever at the base of the skull shows that all actions were dictated by an external force, I believe for a moment after stroggification the marine was aware of his action but couldn't do anything to stop them"
you think the Strogg would care?
it's not like there had been cases similar to Matthew Kane very often. there's a first time for everything i guess.
the order is most likely to be a result of whats best for the machine parts
where your thinking is best for security, project viability, patient sanity or other human style considerations
the strogg had no need for such thinking, their methods had been tried, refined and proven true for eons
they dominated entire civilizations and converted their population to soldiers, drones, machines or food
to our knowledge nobody had yet managed any kind of effective resistance to their invasions, so for all intents, the strogg control the known universe
it wasnt mentioned in the video, but the neural hijack takes advantage of the victims mind, it does not over write its function but takes command of its choices
there has been many instances where strogg units were able to communicate but not prevent action
this is why its a fate worse than death because even after you are 'dead' you have to experience your body being the enemy
thus there isnt actually any cracks in the process
the process its-self was also not at fault regarding Kane's escape
his conversion was interrupted by the attack on the base, an external factor to the process
if normal operations were left unchecked, they would have been entirely successful to the end of time
under normal operations, a subject is successfully converted to a soldier, or something else if conversion fails
even failure isnt failure for the strogg
They seem very unintelligent. It’s likely all of their technology was stolen not made by them and they coast with not using it properly. I just question how they didn’t succumb to infection from that dirty saw.
There's some creepy parallels similar to the process of organ donation that goes on in the real world. The first thing is that organs can't be utilized from dead people. They have to be harvested from the living. Anesthetics can compromise the functioning of the organs, so people are injected with a muscle paralyzer to prevent them from flailing around or screaming. The medical establishment fabricated the concept of "brain death" to justify this practice.
I ve always just loved the deep mechanical terrifying strogg voice during the stroggification process
I think its supposed to be a artificial intelligence of sorts maybe the strogg are a result of a rogue ai at a undisclosed science outpost on a red planet similar to mars
@@fenrir5741 interesting theory Indeed, i Ve Always thought that the Nexus was that Ai, but It was never confirmed in the end.
THIS IS A HUGE W! Quake is so lore-packed yet no one's covering it, it's incredibly interesting and gives a ton of sick backstory on all the games! Hope all goes well for you and this series!
Thank you! I'm excited to go deeper into the lore too!
Id was able to accuratley tell the lore of doom 3 through the PDA entries and other things in the environment. Shame we didn't get that type of exposition in quake 4. While interacting with marines to see what they have to say it left me wanting more to find out what all of the stuff in the environment was.
Quake 4 had such an interesting environment that told a terrifying story
This made me think of what robocop mightve gone through if he had to be awake for that process of becoming a cyborg. Strogification is even more terrifying. And even if it's just a game, I do find it really cool that a human could go through that, and without having their link activated, still came out a capable individual. I can imagine that many of the humans who'd gone through it, were probably mentally shattered or on the brink of losing their sanity before they even lost their free will.
*13:48* This really goes to show how bad and evil they are that even this creature seems to be tormented just like everyone else
This was my first gaming experience with torture and gore, I remember playing this when I was just a kid, this game... let's just said it was the game to quickly desensitize me to gore and blood... I was just 8 when I played this... I actually had nightmares of me being a marine and seeing all my friends and me succumb to Stroggification and watching my body kill and torture civilians, unable to do anything other than watch after playing this game, it took me a while to stop having these nightmares.
What a wild stroll down memory lane, the stroggification process of Q4 was absolutely seared into my brain when I first played it. Got into your videos recently by watching the 'Jeff' video, really enjoying your content, cheers for putting in the work and I look forward to seeing more in the future!
Quake 4 is one of those games I’ve played once and never again. Not that it isn’t good; the body horror and gore was just a bit much for me. Now, I’ll play Quake 2 and Enemy Territory all day. The only thing I think was missed in this video was what I call the Pukers in the factory pits; the failed half-alive Strogg zombie experiments.
I was always fascinated at the games interpretation of stroggification as well as the use of human body parts throughout the facility. In a way, the whole facility is a living entity. A heart is like the power generator as pumps blood throughout the facility. A giant/obese monster is a stomach that acts like the local city dump/recycling facility. The brain is the cpu and control center. Those are the primary areas that always grabbed my attention.
Basically what you said 100%. It makes the Strogg just that little more unsettling
And every little part seems to be as unwilling as it gets. Even the “stomach” tries to resist the force feeding. But the resistance proves futile.
As a kid I quit after the stroggification sequence in Q3 as I felt I had the whole horror experience at that point as it bummed me out that the squad doesnt trust you anymore
One of the most shocking event (and mindf... twisting) in gaming history. Great material!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Never played Quake, but a friend once sent me the video of the very first sequence in the game where the main character goes throught the process of Stroggification, and it has always remained with me.
I'm adding this to my to-play list!
Please do. Quake 4 plays very similar to Doom 3.
Very first sequence? Buddy the stroggification part doesn't happen for like three hours of game play. You have to watch your marine buddy's getting kidnapped up to that point not knowing what's going on.
@@syndromeofadowns well, I did say I never played it... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Simply wrongly assumed that the game started like that since it was such a long non-interactive cutscene.
@@JohnyK07 didn't mean to insult. Sry m8
@@syndromeofadowns no problem, mate! 👍
No offense was taken at all 😅
Didn't mean to sound like it did.
To this day Strogg remain the coolest alien race in gaming in my opinion. This is probably the best take on cyborg hivemind race we've ever gotten in gaming. And as barbaric as it seems I myself would welcome having an metal body that doesn't tire or wither away. But the aspect of being controlled and not having free will is price I'm not willing to pay for it.
Quake was the series that got me into video games, especially Quake 2. I remember sitting next to my dad with my finger over the ctrl key (which was the fire button in these games). Dad would be in charge of moving and aiming while I was in charge of firing the gun.
Playing the remaster, in a bizarre way, made me emotional. Probably because of my history of the game as well as people today showing interest in a game about as old as I am! 😄 Hopefully, Nightdive can continue this with Quake 3 Arena, putting it together with Team Arena, Gold, as well as new maps (and possibly Steam Workshop support, but I wouldn't hold my breath).
I never realized what happens with stroggs after destroying the nexus... would be awesome to get a game exploring this subject.
Other than being a Id Quake fan when 4 came out hearing people talk about how crazy the Stroggificaton scene was made me want to play it even more.
Hell yeah, I've always been curious about the Strog and Quake lore.
Stroggification is pretty horrific, but idk if Stalker process is worse because we never see it, so my brain is filling in the gaps (horror you don't see kinda thing) .
At least Cane had free will and could have some semblance of a life in theory ?
plus, all strogs get ENHANCEMENTS, while the stalkers are stripped down to the bare minimum with not much being given in return
I have a morbid fascination with fates like these it's the reason why I like the Cybermen and the Borg so much
You should watch the movie Virus.
@@SSD_Penumbra that movie was what Gave me the fascination and many nightmares
Then you'll absolutly LOVE the Adeptus Mechanicus from Warhammer 40k!
praise the omnissiah.@@TheBlackAndDeckerBootyWrecker
your pfp makes it clear you are morbid in different ways as well
Loved the video! I saw the footage of stroggification awhile back, but I haven't thought much of it till I saw this vid. I always kinda wondered on what it was about, but never bothered to look into it till now! As always a great vid detailing the history and creation of something truly gruesome, can't wait till the next video
Awesome! Thank you!
Truly an awful fate!
I always loved Quake and Quake Wars. I would if I could make a Quake wars map where you board a strogg ship slowly discovering more and more of the stroggfication process.
I remember when I first finished the game I thought that at the end the neurocyte was finally activated and kane killed everyone. But no turns out the laugh you hear at the end is just a way to mock you. That while you were sparred from becoming a strogg you're still used like a slave by humanity
Found your channel only a few days ago, but i'm addicted to your videos already. The calm voice, the amazing storytelling without stuttering, it's all just mwah chef's kiss
what I love the most about the strogg is how they are both technologically advanced but at the same time very very old. The technology and machines you see are advanced but due to the grease and wear and tear you see around the environment, the strogg aren't exactly open to innovation (the stroggification proccess as well, they don't even bother cleaning off the sawblade or wiping the blood off the walls)
The victim would have died at the very first injection stage. That needle was so thick and the wound it left was so massive that there's no way it would be able to effectively inject anything into the bloodstream and keep the environment intact. That thing would have completely ripped the victim's chest and internal organs apart, if they didn't die instantly from their heart being penetrated then there's no way it would be effective in circulating through their bloodstream considering the massive wound they now have in their chest that would be gushing blood.
That being said the stroggification scene and the game getting better after it is still the part I remember the most from Quake 4.
It does apparently inject a nanomachine colony into the person so they basically get the "Nanomachines, Son!" effect where the nanites fix damage and strengthen everything.
Yeah, I love how we're supposed to believe this is an advanced alien race with teleportation and space-travel technology, but they can't even do surgeries without comically-oversized needles and saws 😂 ...Like, I get it, it's meant to be scary for the player, not make sense lore-wise. But I find the idea of an alien race somehow developing super-advanced technology yet their factories still look/behave like slaughterhouses extremely funny.
They're supposed to care about "efficiency" and "not making waste" yet they cut up their prisoners with rusty saws and have machines _just_ to poke and torture the ones that failed?? And then instead of using a machine, they basically feed the slop into a giant fat thing that spurts out goo? lol. Soooo efficient. 😅
I think this is why races like the Strogg or Klingon never impress me, they just make me laugh. The concept of "hyper-advanced war-mongering race" is simply conceptually flawed. War is for dull and stupid creatures, advanced technology can't be made by stupid creatures. You could try and write that the war-mongering race just "captured" races with better technology and weapons, but, well... how did they do that in the first place? It's a cliché writing pitfall that makes any sci-fi universe feel silly, imo.
I do think the idea of an "all-consuming" intelligent race is viable, and makes a lot more sense. Either through a massive planet-sized parasite, or something like the Borg. That, to me, is much better cosmic horror. The Strogg are like the sci-fi equivalent of the scary clown with a chainsaw on a hay bale ride.
Your redditism is terminal. @@bugjams
@@bugjams if I recall correctly from what I’ve seen on the wiki, the Strogg make the process horrifically brutal on purpose. Probably for sick research.
I always thought it strange how the main character and only him doesn't get a facial mask unlike all the other tactical strogg units in the stroggification process. Probably just so he'd look better in cutscenes or something.
ironic, i think it makes him uglier, face masks are cool.
friend of mine gotten myself into quake few weeks ago and very happy when i was looking into lore people starting to make more video of quake im surprised how much lore there actually is hope to see more of your work man enjoy your life life :D
Can't wait to hear more about the Strogg vs. Humanity. Loved learning more about them in Quake 4 and Quake Wars.
The process was brutal to me to witness/be a part of. I was in highschool and remember the visceral reaction I had to it. Your videos are ALWAYS welcome in my notification bar. Cheers!
Thanks for the support! There's more to come too!
@@Skyrionn I love that you are a man of the people and always interact with your followers. For that reason you are one of my favorite TH-camrs.
I've always wanted to learn more about Quake lore - haven't played since I was a kid! Super excited for this!
Stay tuned! There's more to come ☺
i remember watching the stroggification process the first time, my brothers and I thought it was cool & horrific and to this day that cutscene even as horrific it is, is still one of my favorite all-time video game cutscenes.
The Quake universe sound like an excellent fit for your channel and narration style. I will certainly be looking forward to seeing more of it.
Thank you kindly! It's a vast universe to explore. I'm excited to dive deeper
As a fan of cyborg body horror, I'm glad people remember the Strogg.
Same here. Got any recommendations, hidden gems?
@@MCKaczmars It ain't much but try Prey 2006? u don't become cyborg but environment gives same vibe as Quake 4.
Have you seen Star Trek? I highly recommend looking up the Borg! They’re super interesting, full of body horror, and I think the Strogg were inspired by them! 😄
Amazing vid! The first time I saw stroggification I had to walk away at the part of the saw cutting off Kane's legs. The Strogg are brutally efficiente in their "recruiting".
They absolutely know what they're doing by the time Kane experiences it
i'm LOVING your videos, i'm surprised i never played any of these games like half life, doom, and quake, but now i dont have the time to play games anymore, but your videos let me see them in all there gruesome glory! keep up the great work! i cant wait to see what incomprehensible horrors you have for us next!
If they come back to this universe and REALLY dig into body-horror, they could really make quake a defining game. Think about the disturbing body-horror of something like Scorn, mixed with Quake. It'd be awesome.
I would rather id Software/Raven Software delve into Lovecraftian Quake first before going back to Strogg Quake.
@@ResidentWeevil2077 Same. Give us more Q1 universe, Strogg have had their day.
One of my first games which introduced me into hardcore gamimg, best experiences of my life, this game definitely deserves a remake.
It does. With Quake 2 having recieved a remake, I believe it's time for Q4
I've been binging your videos while knitting, you have such a vivid way of describing things! Thank you so much for the content 💕 and Happy Halloween 🎃👻
I must commend you for managing to change my views on that "Stalkerification vs Stroggification" poll you held 2 weeks or so ago.
I was unsure at first as the stalkerification process was never really explained in HL, only the product of such process was shown which was horrifying on its own, but now that you have shown us the cruelty of Stroggification and how the process goes, I think I will have to return to that poll and re-cast my vote.
And color me confused how I have not subbed to you yet even though I have been watching your videos for a good while now.
This has been corrected now as you have now earned yourself a new sub :)
Welcome aboard officially. Thanks for being here before too!
I see that the video has helped a bunch of people understand the experience. I'd say Stroggification is absolutely worse.
The worst thing: You have to pay for this ride.
Haven’t played Quake 4, but I have played Quake 1 to Quake 3 when I was a kid. I remember Quake 2 had these factory/slaughterhouse sections where humans scream and their bodies fall into grinding machinery. There was one conveyor belt going over in acid too.
I was a little horrified seeing those.
I didn’t know anything about Quake lore before this and I was super hooked. I can’t wait for the next video on this series!
I'd absolutely suggest playing through. I'll aim to get more Quake content out.
never ever played Quake, and few shooter at that. also new to this channel, so at least glad for the algorithm helping you out, King.
was a fun watch and gonna love diving into your other vids
cheers!
I hope if they make a new quake it is about the strogg war. Lovecraftian story is already touched in doom ancient gods. But strogg is very unique.
And you can experience all 4 games in stand alone wireless VR for next to no cost beyond the HMD. Thanks Team Beef! The opening of Quake 4 is nuts in VR. I'd play it more if Prey 2006 hadn't taken over my head set.
You are in for a treat with quake lore. Quake Champions is the catalyst that will have you scrounging old texts for information, every character, every map, every reference, every era, time period and object has something to link to lore. (Thank you SyncError.)
With QC, you will find information for all previous Quake games, which you can then look deep into individually too. Fun factoid for Quake 2 lore that I don't think would have worked well in this video, but if you think about how the Strogg came to Earth for it's 'resources' only really focusing on humans and the war it brought, it doesn't answer some questions. But to counter that, in Quake 1, Slipgate Complex is the many times mentioned facility in which slipgate tech was discovered and utilised. It was ancient, otherworldly technology that brought the relics discoverer to complete insanity. Much of the information surrounding the relic hints that it was Strogg technology, suggesting that they were on Earth long before humanity had any idea of the alien species.
I won't go in depth with the impact of the Slipgate Complex in the world of Quake, but it is much more significant than one might presume.
I'm so excited to explore. I love how Quake and Doom are connected too. May cover a Quake 1 topic in the next video I cover Quake.
The lore you provide my friend is so much appreciated
Can you make a rundown or lore videos about the first stroggo war and maybe the 2nd later like the 7 hour war video
I would love to see a remake of Quake 4, or the entire Quake series.
Same.
Looking forward to more quake! Especially some quake 1! Great vid.
Been waiting for this one, thank you for covering them! Quake is very underrated
Very cool story ideas, definitely a lot of parallels to the Combine empire from Half Life. This would be a fantastic scenario to run in a D&D or other TTRPG style game - players wake up captured, undergo Stroggification or other homebrew process that makes them powerful, then after being rescued they get to start the game as exceptional individuals.
quake 4 is my favourite childhood game, the mood is unique !
Childhood? 😂 😂
Cool video man, commonly overlooked lore that I personally think is really fucking cool. Appreciate ya.
I really enjoyed what you covered in this video. I am a relatively new viewer of yours and really appreciated the lore you mention for each game. I only wished that there were a few more Quake games to give more lore or content to delve into.
Well until there is a new game, I'll be covering as much as there is.
As much as I've experienced so far Quake 4's Stroggification is the best worst fate cutscene I've ever witnessed. It's even more disturbing than Mortal Kombat fatalities. But after the non-skippable scene, I have to admit that it's quite a reward to the player for enduring the whole grotesque sight. TBH, I almost cry seeing it but suddenly forget it when I regain control. It's like an average grunt transformed into Doom Slayer in a matter of minutes.
Nice to see Quake 4 get more attention. :)
This really shows how much of a Biopunk work it is. One of the best in that genre imo.
It appears this video has introduced a lot of people to Quake. Happy to help the fandom.
@@Skyrionn That help is greatly appreciated. ;)
Quake 4 really is an amazing example of Biopunk, something that it really doesn’t get enough credit for.
As someone that knows next to nothing about Quake lore this was a treat, looking forward to more!
More Quake lore please, your narration is the best
How it feels to chew 5 gum
Awesome! We need more Quake 4 content!
Working on it!
@@Skyrionn Great!
This is a rare sight to witness.
Quake 4 of all games.
Quake 4 is so under rated.😮
"I require stroyent." --strogg soldier from Enemy Territories: Quake Wars
As a Quake fan, TH-cam recommended me correct content this time. I have been meaning to touch back on this for a while now with some friends, regarding the lore, and how I wanted an improved sequel to Enemy Territories once again bringing back the human vs. strogg war. The process of strogg-making/processing was always an interesting dark aspect of Quake 4. I thought for years that Quake 4 did not get enough respect at times for the story and moments of horror that even seem more direct and extreme than Quake 2 was. The waste dump areas were especially screwed up.
I think Half-Life and System Shock were two games that inspired Quake 4 to be the game it was.
You should do a lore on graylings in Valheim. Its very creppy if you read the stones.
Awesome, i love half life but with your storytelling skills i crave all the lore out there no matter from which game.
Wow, thanks!
I hope you also cover the Unreal games.
Quake, Doom, Duke Nukem, Half Life, and Unreal are the true godfathers of FPS gaming, and fond memories of them exist in my head.
Great work on the video skyrionn.
Much appreciated. Great to see your name popping up frequently.
The strogg make the combine look like a children`s football club
''AH, metal thigh highs, metal everything! do i go to a car-wasch or a loundra-matt?''
Thank you for all the new videos!
Thanks for watching :D
Great video as always. Love the quake ost and aesthetic
It's a brilliant soundtrack
The "Quake 2" setting is far more fleshed out than Quake 1s and would probably have more mass appeal as a rebooted franchise like DOOM but I would really like to see the lovecraftian elements of Quake 1 redone especially as after Quake 1 it never got much love.
With all of the slip gates in Quake 1 it wouldn't be hard to merge the 2 duelling settings and finally unify them under the name.
I always felt that the setting and environment of Quake 1 was much more creepy and frightening. But to a lot of people, Quake 1 didn't even really have a story, and like you said, it really needed to be fleshed out more.
but if they had of, I feel like it could have been really good. And because of that, I was kinda sad when they abandoned it in Q2
You're not alone. Every video on Id Software fps, I see people say the same thing, wanting a new game in the Q1 universe
Definitely do one on the guy who survived stroggification
He's on the list ☺
Quake lore is underrated. They need to make a new game that tied one and two together. My theory is that the other dimension in #1 and the strogg had a military alliance. Once the strogg saw what happened to shub they became aware of humanity and invaded to get us before we could get them. You can see strogg logos on the boxes in some of the levels in q1.
Cant wait to hear more about quake lore! all new to me, very cool
There's so much more to come!
I just wish that Quake 4's graphics worked properly on windows 10 and 11, without having to fiddle a little with game files or updates/mods.
really hope you cover the giant "troll" creatures and speculate as to what they are and where they may be from. They are like the big fire shooting things from Doom, in a way I guess.
I never had any issues running Q4 on Windows 10