I love Sonia in this clip. She's adovacting for her patient, not the doctors, or the hospital, or even the patient's family. That's what a real nurse does.
@@sarahakm that is so not true. Sounds like made by a nurse who failed to get into med school and now resenting doctors by diminishing their contributions. 🤦🏻♀️
Healthcare worker here. One massive "No no", when examining a patient, you never ever leave the door open! @3:00. That can get you in a world of problems with patient confidentiality.
Omg I noticed that! I’m going to college to become a nurse and I’ve already taken some classes in high school and one of the first things you do after washing hands is “provide privacy” whether that is a Curtain or a door
Not really... in a general practice admissions department where there is a full waiting room outside... yes, but in a clinic that is closed to anyone except patients and approved visits... no obligation.
Actually Ashley disliked playing the part of a beautiful girl. She needs time to figure out what she likes, who she is. I think the nurse was perfect as an advocate for the patient. Those parents were horrid without any understanding at all. The "boyfriend" was a turncoat. A real friend will stay a friend. Hope the parents will support Ashley's choice.
But the parents won't. Because she's a part of the LGBT community, and always has been. They cannot change who she is and no one should ever try to change who she is.
@@soonersciencenerd383 Quite a few with this condition do not discover until later in life, this is why sex identified purely by genitalia at birth is dumb, although it is good enough for the majority of humans it is not accurate for everyone.
That whole group of doctors casually checking out her privates while the door 5ft away is open in the background, lots of people walking past... This is ridiculously bad and funny.
Oh btw, that’s Daveigh Chase who is famous for playing Samara (girl in the well) in The Ring and voicing LILO in Lilo and Stitch. Ironically the girl in the Japanese novel Ringu that The Ring is based on was a hermaphrodite.
The acceptable term now is "intersex", not hermaphrodite. Intersex includes a large number of various conditions that make the person's reproductive system not fully male or fully female in some way, hence, "inter" (between). Hermaphrodite was the combination of Hermes and Aphrodite in myth. Intersex doesn't have anything like that, not like what the myth implies (both completely male and completely female).
Not sure what she could sue the "boyfriend" for. Not that he should be doing it, but what exactly was he doing? Was he lying about her? Now, if a doctor had told him about her, then that would be a lawsuit, but the "boyfriend" finding out and then telling everyone isn't him going on lying about her.
I hate how people do this and push gender roles and shame onto people with this! They're male and female and it's up to them to decide how they want to present and it's absolutely nobody's place to force someone else how to live especially in a situation like this where the choice is the patient's and the patient's alone. This person just had her life turned upside down and everything that she knew has changed, how is it okay for doctors and family members to put such a pressure and practically taunt this kid about this? Yes, this is acted, however these have happened to real people including myself and it's disgusting what intersex people have to put up with.
I'm a nurse and I have seen a newborn who was placed in the NICU to allow the parents to "decide" and I have seen a later in life intersex person whose parents chose to make them female! And unfortunately the older person was masculine presenting.. I often wonder what would have happened if they had allowed them to choose
Intersex people should decide what they want to do with their bodies and also they shouldn’t be forced into gender roles and it sucks that people act like their disgust is ok because its a person not a fucking object
Just because people call you a freak doesn´t mean you are one. Also what´s the deal with the parents about "Putting ideas in Ashley´s head"? Shouldn´t the person decide for themselves what they want to do or not?
My word, it is a show. It isn't real. The writers intensively made these other characters as detestable as possible in order to make it interesting. It has no bearing on reality. No parent would act like these parents do. There is no reason to rush to a decision, it's not like they have to do this or in two days, Ashley would be growing a beard and have chest hair. It is a fake show with fake drama intentionally written in. Don't believe this is reality.
@@crissd8283 You know just because it´s fiction doesn´t mean it doesn´t contain a bit of reality. Even if the possibility is slim, something lke that could have happen for real and the show demonstrates what it could look like. And that is why people can react to such a situation like it could be reality because in that moment the fiction becomes another reality we witness and therefore we think and feel about it as we would in a real-life-scenario.
@@matthewcrome5835Ripped it? OOF. You know that intersex people exist in real life, right? And that there are tons of people who don’t know until they’re older because their parents and doctors keep it from them.
@@lexi219 Of course I know intersex people exist in real life, it's just that the situation depicted in this show is almost identical to the one in House MD.
i’m actually surprised the parents pushed for the surgery after realizing they actually may have a son without even asking their child how they feel. not even about how they feel about getting the surgery or not but how they feel about just hearing this life altering news.
It is a show. You realize the intent of a show is to draw you in to watch it and tell a story. It is completely divorced from reality. No parents would actually act like this. There is no reason to make quick decision on a surgery. No doctor or nurse would not call for a family to take their time on deciding. Quit thinking this is reality, it is a complete fake. Don't walk around in the world thinking people actually behave like this.
Ashley has what I think is a condition called male pseudohermaphroditism/androgen insensitivity syndrome, she's biologically a bloke but is resistant to testosterone.
@@KeniQilin I think she has a "5 alpha reductase deficiency", not androgen insensitivity. Her body is sensitive to androgens but it can't turn testosterone to DHT, that's why she had female organs at birth (DHT is necessaryto develop male organs). But after puberty, her body started making a lot more androgens that were able to change her organs' appearance. This syndrome is even referred to as "they turn into men" syndrome.
The term is intersex. I am intersex. Show some respect and empathy for people who go trough such stuff. Life its hard enough no need from other to be bad.
Agree. The term 'Hermaphrodite' has a proper use in biology. A hermaphrodite is an individual which produces two types of gametes (e.g. apple trees). True hermaphroditism has never been documented in humans. Intersex is a catch-all term for various conditions (generally developmental) which result in mixed or atypical presentation of sex characteristics, or for the people with such conditions. To call an intersex person a hermaphrodite isn't just insensitive, it's scientifically inaccurate. 😋
"Ashley" was originally a male name. In the US, usage of Ashley for baby girls started increasing in the 1920s and 1930s, though it remained more common for boys. By the 1940s and 1950s, the name was becoming more popular for girls than boys. The 1960s marked a pivotal shift when Ashley became overwhelmingly more popular for baby girls than baby boys.
I am absolutely shocked the door was open I am shocked that Ashley didn't have the right to refuse all the medical doctor students in there during that particular examination... you can refuse that
This was often the reality for intersex kids, sans the open door. Doctors would gather in groups to look at children's privates in the guise of "education" for the physicians, often without even bothering to ask for the parent's permission, let alone the child's.
@@lila2986 go away. you're the one judging. the video makes it seem like because someone isn't into that it makes them less feminine. newsflash, not every woman cares for that.
@@lila2986 You are both wrong being judgmental. Some women ae Girly girls and some aren't. There is nothing wrong with being either. It is you own taste in what you like.
She IS a boy genetically speaking. The choice of the sex is difficult in this case since the patient grew up as a girl and their choice should be taken into account. If they feel that they're a boy then they should be turned into a boy. It's the right decision imo in this case anyway because it would allow them to have biological children in the future (the opposite is not true if they were left as a girl).
@@SomiaDz She has both hormones so she's no more a boy than she is a girl. The error in the writing is saying "she doesn't like makeup and all this girly stuff so she must be a boy." That doesn't make her a boy anymore than wanting to play football.
@@blue4t ALL people have BOTH types of hormones to some degree, even people who are not intersex. I get what you're saying, but the fact that she doesn't like girly stuff is an indication that maybe she doesn't feel like a girl (not necessarily of course). We can't judge the whole script just from this clip. Maybe they explained how she feels more in the episode.
@@SomiaDzMaybe they didn't. The writing here is sloppy. You can argue about things that happen outside this video but in the context of this video it is sloppy.
That description of how that transformation would happen fascinated me. The human body is amazing and terrifying at the same time. That's one of the likely reasons why I couldn't be a doctor. I lack the empathy to look beyond biology and psychology. To see the person.
Gently sharing an opinion... What a world this would be if we all could celebrate our differences. Where people with beliefs and those who are hosts to no beliefs can be woven/drawn together and where, if the desire is there, we can share in exploring this thing we call life and the cosmos that surrounds us. I am a wishful dreamer. Reality is that it is easier to hate and it is easier to make metaphorical demons out of the parts of life that we may not feel comfortable with. Sigh. Much love to all those who are often in the crosshairs of our harmful/devaluing propensities. 🌸
I honestly hate labeling period. But in all honesty, we are labeled every single day of our lives, whether it is good labeling or bad, whether there is something wrong with us or not, some person may call you a bitch just because you are grumpy or laying down your boundaries. If you have a disorder or a mental illness or in this young person's case discovering you are a male rather than a female it is your choice and actions to choose how to take it. Whether we like it or not we will continue to be labeled; but will we tolerate it or not is the question. If you have BPD, you can accept the challenges and show the world that you aren't going to allow your disorder to ruin your life, but choose to educate people that just because you have it doesn't make you a bad person. We all go through our ups and downs, but we don't allow them to break us, we allow it to strengthen us. I think it is disgusting when parents and friends turn their backs on people who choose to accept what they were born with, or if they decide to change their sex, it is the person's choice and we can never understand what they are going through inside. My one sibling was born with both male and female parts, her mom and my dad decided since she was more female to let her be female. As an adult she could have decided to turn back to being a male but she didn't. Her mom and my dad would have accepted that change had she made it, I wish others were more accepting of this.
I feel for any child that this happens to, especially since this is usually discovered before they are adult. They’ve not had the time to develop a mature, experienced mind. They will be beset by parents, friends, peers, and others who are also not prepared to deal with such a situation. With few exceptions, peers and friends will not be able to handle the situation and often will be brutal. Again, with very few exceptions, even the medical staff will be challenged to deal with such a situation. Often, worst of all, the parents will have long developed expectations of their child and can bring terrible pressure to bear. Sadly, a large majority of people will say it is the parents’ choice to make, but this is a choice with permanent, life-long ramifications. I believe there should be a requirement for a minimum period of counseling before a decision can be made, and that in the event the child and parents disagree, the parents not be allowed to force their opinion on the child. The child should be removed if the parents are found to be coercing the child. Parents do not own their children. I know many will vehemently disagree with me. So be it.
I am intersex formally know as hermaphrodite and I have Klinefelter Syndrome meaning that my chromosomes are XXY and I choose to appear as female because that's what my brain sees and eyes sees when I look at myself in a mirror and anyone who disagrees... oh well you can do whatever you want to me even kill me it won't change how my brain sees me and my heart feels all the drugs, surgeries and therapy won't change who I am I'm a woman you don't have to like it, agree or even deal with it because you're not living in my shoes I am so anyone who disagrees your opinion doesn't matter and if you don't like me and don't want to be friends well then that tells me you don't deserve me as friend and trust me folks ask anyone I'm the ride or die chick it's your loss besides there's over 8.5 billion people on earth I'm pretty sure I'll find some people that will accept me
@@RaptorFromWeegeeno it's because you have people who think they can tell other people how to live and who to love and if they can have kids or not, you'll never understand because you'll never be in that position so I don't expect you to understand what's it like
@@EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman I wasn't commenting on the LGB part of LGBT, I was commenting on just the "T" part. So it has nothing to do with "who they can love" or child baring. My point is that our current understanding of tran-ness is highly flawed. Theres been an unmistakable and long standing campaign of misinformation on the subject emanating from the elite. Clearly, our current treatment of gender is not working. Even with medical treatment and acceptance, theres still a very high suicide rate. John Hopkins Med School ended their sex change program a long time ago, because it was pseudo-scientific. Britain and Sweden recently banned sex changes for children. You tube is filled with kids who have detransitioned. They pour out their hearts in these heart wrenching videos. One by one, US states are banning transing children and I expect those bans will soon get expanded to adults as well. Bottom line, the current system is NOT producing good long term outcomes, so its got to change. You are what people perceive you to be.
@@EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman your thoughts and feelings should be based on scientific reality. you can't just state that something is something that which it is absolutely not. You can't call an octopus a dog, an asteroid an apple. Just say you like looking and acting like a woman. But you cannot say you are something you are not, unless it's evidence-based fact.
House MD did the same thing and made her "The most beautiful girl in the world" So Mercy basically does it to with "So beautiful she's in a beauty pageant"
This is a different situation, as she in this episode would respond to testosterone, if that's what she chooses. The other one had Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, meaning she would never become masculinized.
That's one thing I've noticed... Hermaphrodites are extremely beautiful people. I've seen about 5 or 6 real-life episodes on TV over the years about them and they've always been a 10/10 in the beauty department.
FYI: the current term for someone with Ashley's condition is INTERSEX but i guess that doesn't bait clicks quite like using the outdated, problematic, offensive term "hermaphrodite". Smh.
Stop rewriting language, history, moral. There is nothing offensive in the word hermaphrodite. You don't get to force people to talk as you like. Your feelings are your own personal business, deal with them.
@@ilmaio Yikes, so you don’t know how language works? Weird thing to flex about, but if you desperately need to use outdated words while watching your “stories”, do you, boo.
How is the term hermaphrodite problematic and offensive? I can concern that the term intersex is a newer and more used term...but legitimately please explain.
The irony of the last statement about her age in light of the agenda this show is trying to push is not lost on me. "Kids should be able to transition" yet, this girl should have time to think about a life changing surgery? Which is it?
No, we should *not* go back and re-title or re-word one single word of any book or movie or anything written prior to today. That's the Thought Police. Yes, strive for a better new society but be careful about making words taboo; you might instead get a Brave New World (Huxley) or a 1984 (Orwell). Both books should be required reading for every human. And re-read every decade.
what I'd like to know is how the boyfriend found out. sure the heck wasn't for Mom and Dad or the doctors or nurses and I'm pretty sure it wasn't from Ashley
Kind of feels like they ripped off House MD (although I get the patients had different conditions). On another note, why does the actress playing the chief seems familiar?
It's rough when you work up a good strong mad, then realize the person you are mad at isn't wrong. But dealing with rough things in a mature way is the difference between being an adult and being childish. It may be rough to admit the other side is right and you have been wrong, especially when you are angry, But it makes you look really good if you can quench the anger and say, "I'm sorry for getting angry. You are right. I couldn't see it before, now I do."
Pretty much all the conversations and behaviors in this are strange. The nurse also fails to make the important point, "She's never felt like a girl or wanted to be one." Given the situation, it may as well be allowed to be played out.
No it was a different condition called, Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome CAIS but internal testicles too. But it won't cause eventual masculinisation
On one hand that girls entire life is now in a major shakeup and she has to decide her future. on the other hand the friend who was also a boy, his life is also now in serious issue. 1.he will be tourmented via teesing for the rest of his young life until he moves away 2.he will question his sexuality the rest of his life when in fact he's straight 3.this will no doubt lead to negative things in his life the rest of his life. soo basically both lives were ruined in one fell swoop. what an episode.
Personally things that’d should not be a parents desision : Doing surgery on a child that is a homaphrodite , circumcision of a child no matter what gender , changing the full name and birth certificate of a child they adopted . Those desision are from the child to make when they are at least 18 a legal adult or most ideally age 25 as your body and brain medically stop developing then to make your own identity declarations that are permanent impact
Doing a surgery on a child that is intersex* Also maybe doing gender assignment surgery on a child who is intersex* unless you think parents shouldn't be allowed to decide their toddler can have a tumor removed
Changing an adopted child's name on a birth certificate isn't that big of a deal. You can still get copies of the original certificate. It also helps kids to have the same last name as their parents, especially littles. My fiance has his original birth certificate and it says Baby Boy Green, should he have kept it that way? He basically had no name given to him at birth because he was going to be adopted.
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 nothing horrible. It was a statement. He had admired her as a woman throughout the episode and when they discovered she had male parts, he made that statement
Not everyone who was born with intersex conditions know at birth, or in older times. If it was known at birth, the doctors would operate on the baby and not tell the parents.
I doubt things would have been handled this way. But it was probably for drama purposes for the show. And there is HPAA as well. The nurse may very well have been sued.
"Yo Dawg, I heard you like that Hermaphrodite episode on House, so I made an episode, which is like a collage of that one, with more things in it, plus a mom and a boyfriend, and an endocrinologist with the same sounding surname like the other show, so you can reminisce the old House episode, enjoy this new Mercy point of view, and talk about it when it's out on TH-cam!"
That was a bit different. This is a condition know as Guevodoces. It’s rare, and usually happens in the Dominican Republic. They have unusually high rates of it. This is not hermaphroditism.
@@dangeary2134 I immediately read about the condition. There's only one case I know in my country which the person after puberty became fully functional male with normal children.
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I like how the endocrine specialist just bluntly gives the information to everyone . Just straight to the point 😂
That is the way Doctor's are!
That's what old school and nerdy doctors do...
Now they ask us to Google everything.
@@LiPo5000Only doctors with "-ist" in their title can say that nowadays.
2:57 I love it more when a group of doctors, not one or two, but five doctors watching someone lower part together. 😅
bluntly? he was downright cheerful about it.
I love Sonia in this clip. She's adovacting for her patient, not the doctors, or the hospital, or even the patient's family. That's what a real nurse does.
The saying I've heard is "Doctors treat illnesses, nurses treat people"
@@sarahakm That's it in a nutshell.
Do you know which show is this?
@@sarahakm that is so not true. Sounds like made by a nurse who failed to get into med school and now resenting doctors by diminishing their contributions. 🤦🏻♀️
If I ever meet a real one I’ll let you know
Healthcare worker here. One massive "No no", when examining a patient, you never ever leave the door open! @3:00. That can get you in a world of problems with patient confidentiality.
Correct in real life.
Omg I noticed that! I’m going to college to become a nurse and I’ve already taken some classes in high school and one of the first things you do after washing hands is “provide privacy” whether that is a Curtain or a door
Future healthcare worker here. Thanks for the tip! 🙂
Not really... in a general practice admissions department where there is a full waiting room outside... yes, but in a clinic that is closed to anyone except patients and approved visits... no obligation.
@jerromedrakejr9332 Not where I live in Canada. And even it it's not "law," it seems like it should be common courtesy.
Actually Ashley disliked playing the part of a beautiful girl. She needs time to figure out what she likes, who she is. I think the nurse was perfect as an advocate for the patient. Those parents were horrid without any understanding at all. The "boyfriend" was a turncoat. A real friend will stay a friend. Hope the parents will support Ashley's choice.
But the parents won't. Because she's a part of the LGBT community, and always has been. They cannot change who she is and no one should ever try to change who she is.
Exactly!!
Disagree
How many parents today are forcing young children to “transition” in something their not?
@@veg2489 Why Did She Rip The Pink Strapless Ball Gown To Shreds? I Think Its Pretty.
Why accept a part if you dislike the role? It's bs.
"My boyfriend thinks I'm a freak". She needs a better boyfriend.
“how did they get in there” dad is shocked
😂😂😂😂😮
If this was House M.D., the answer would likely have been something along the lines of "some boy has overstayed his welcome".
@@reubenmanzo2054 🏆Best comment award.
how did he not know?
@@soonersciencenerd383 Quite a few with this condition do not discover until later in life, this is why sex identified purely by genitalia at birth is dumb, although it is good enough for the majority of humans it is not accurate for everyone.
“Everybody at _my_ school heard it, you were the hermaphrodite cheerleader from Long Island?”
We started a ruuuumor
Ah yes, the I hate Rachel Green club.
I was afraid you'd show me
Hermaphrodite is an outdated hurtful term. It’s intersexed.
That whole group of doctors casually checking out her privates while the door 5ft away is open in the background, lots of people walking past... This is ridiculously bad and funny.
And the absolute truth in emergency rooms sometimes.
Oh btw, that’s Daveigh Chase who is famous for playing Samara (girl in the well) in The Ring and voicing LILO in Lilo and Stitch. Ironically the girl in the Japanese novel Ringu that The Ring is based on was a hermaphrodite.
That is interesting.
Wow, that's a very interesting info, thanks :)
Why does Lilo’s name always autocorrect to all caps?
Also, when I read the name Samara, I was thinking of Mass Effect 2.
The acceptable term now is "intersex", not hermaphrodite. Intersex includes a large number of various conditions that make the person's reproductive system not fully male or fully female in some way, hence, "inter" (between). Hermaphrodite was the combination of Hermes and Aphrodite in myth. Intersex doesn't have anything like that, not like what the myth implies (both completely male and completely female).
INTERSEX is the correct term not hermaphrodite.
That boyfriend of hers knowing her condition is a MAJOR HIPPA violation. And now he's telling other people. MAJOR lawsuit incoming.
They removed him from the room. She likely told him later.
HIPAA
Not sure what she could sue the "boyfriend" for. Not that he should be doing it, but what exactly was he doing? Was he lying about her?
Now, if a doctor had told him about her, then that would be a lawsuit, but the "boyfriend" finding out and then telling everyone isn't him going on lying about her.
@@JoybuzzerX suing the hospital.
@@apb38 Okay, that I could see happening.
2:25 "If Ashley continues to keep living......................................as a female"
That pause was BRUTAL
I THOUGHT HE WAS JUST GONNA STOP AT “living”
@@Frostfern94 I know, I was like what???????? ...It surely can't be that bad
There's barely any pause
@@raydaveed I heard it and thought the same as the other commenters above.
@@Paravetje Don't care lol
I hate how people do this and push gender roles and shame onto people with this! They're male and female and it's up to them to decide how they want to present and it's absolutely nobody's place to force someone else how to live especially in a situation like this where the choice is the patient's and the patient's alone. This person just had her life turned upside down and everything that she knew has changed, how is it okay for doctors and family members to put such a pressure and practically taunt this kid about this? Yes, this is acted, however these have happened to real people including myself and it's disgusting what intersex people have to put up with.
I'm a nurse and I have seen a newborn who was placed in the NICU to allow the parents to "decide" and I have seen a later in life intersex person whose parents chose to make them female! And unfortunately the older person was masculine presenting.. I often wonder what would have happened if they had allowed them to choose
Intersex people should decide what they want to do with their bodies and also they shouldn’t be forced into gender roles and it sucks that people act like their disgust is ok because its a person not a fucking object
Exceotion, not the rule, looneytroony
@@Grayest_Fox ok chud also spell check exists contard
@@soupthesart I wrote that on a PC, dumdum
Just because people call you a freak doesn´t mean you are one. Also what´s the deal with the parents about "Putting ideas in Ashley´s head"? Shouldn´t the person decide for themselves what they want to do or not?
And shouldn’t they have as many ideas as possible to make an informed decision?
Denial. It makes people do strange things.
My word, it is a show. It isn't real. The writers intensively made these other characters as detestable as possible in order to make it interesting. It has no bearing on reality. No parent would act like these parents do. There is no reason to rush to a decision, it's not like they have to do this or in two days, Ashley would be growing a beard and have chest hair. It is a fake show with fake drama intentionally written in. Don't believe this is reality.
@@crissd8283 You know just because it´s fiction doesn´t mean it doesn´t contain a bit of reality. Even if the possibility is slim, something lke that could have happen for real and the show demonstrates what it could look like. And that is why people can react to such a situation like it could be reality because in that moment the fiction becomes another reality we witness and therefore we think and feel about it as we would in a real-life-scenario.
@@crissd8283 They made them detestable so they are what you think of when you hear about people questioning transgender ideology.
House MD had a similar case. As House so eloquently put it ‘The perfect woman is a man’
That was my first thought too, it seems like they ripped it off of House
@@matthewcrome5835yep seems like they definitely ripped it out of House MD. 😅
Literally watch it on this channel a couple days ago. Its Ep2 of s1.
@@matthewcrome5835Ripped it? OOF. You know that intersex people exist in real life, right? And that there are tons of people who don’t know until they’re older because their parents and doctors keep it from them.
@@lexi219 Of course I know intersex people exist in real life, it's just that the situation depicted in this show is almost identical to the one in House MD.
"she's gorgeous she's a cheerleader" SO that doesn't and shouldn't matter!
Mom was reliving her life through her daughter.
i’m actually surprised the parents pushed for the surgery after realizing they actually may have a son without even asking their child how they feel. not even about how they feel about getting the surgery or not but how they feel about just hearing this life altering news.
Boys car be cheerleaders too
@@riverhunter21226 2:51 Did you miss the part where she said just to cut them off?
It is a show. You realize the intent of a show is to draw you in to watch it and tell a story. It is completely divorced from reality. No parents would actually act like this. There is no reason to make quick decision on a surgery. No doctor or nurse would not call for a family to take their time on deciding. Quit thinking this is reality, it is a complete fake. Don't walk around in the world thinking people actually behave like this.
Isn't the correct term intersex? I also agree Ashely should be given time to decide if they want to be male or female since nature made them both.
Ashley has what I think is a condition called male pseudohermaphroditism/androgen insensitivity syndrome, she's biologically a bloke but is resistant to testosterone.
No
Yes, that's correct. True hermaphroditism is physically impossible in humans. This is what's called an intersex condition.
@@KeniQilin in that case, her body would never develop into a "man's", and even treatment with testosterone would not result in a male body.
@@KeniQilin I think she has a "5 alpha reductase deficiency", not androgen insensitivity. Her body is sensitive to androgens but it can't turn testosterone to DHT, that's why she had female organs at birth (DHT is necessaryto develop male organs).
But after puberty, her body started making a lot more androgens that were able to change her organs' appearance. This syndrome is even referred to as "they turn into men" syndrome.
Them leaving the door open that’s a Hippa violation
first thing I noticed, yuk
ER nurse the Netherlands
HIPAA
The term is intersex. I am intersex. Show some respect and empathy for people who go trough such stuff. Life its hard enough no need from other to be bad.
Yeah was gonna comment that hermaphrodite isn't the correct term, but you (deservedly) did it first!
Yeah thanks for knowing the correct term i think it means a lot to those who are intersex@@michaeltrinh4394
You are brave to say that.
Agreed
Agree. The term 'Hermaphrodite' has a proper use in biology. A hermaphrodite is an individual which produces two types of gametes (e.g. apple trees). True hermaphroditism has never been documented in humans.
Intersex is a catch-all term for various conditions (generally developmental) which result in mixed or atypical presentation of sex characteristics, or for the people with such conditions.
To call an intersex person a hermaphrodite isn't just insensitive, it's scientifically inaccurate. 😋
my mans really said "...thoughts?" 💀💀💀
"Ashley" was originally a male name.
In the US, usage of Ashley for baby girls started increasing in the 1920s and 1930s, though it remained more common for boys. By the 1940s and 1950s, the name was becoming more popular for girls than boys. The 1960s marked a pivotal shift when Ashley became overwhelmingly more popular for baby girls than baby boys.
Thank you Ashley
😂😂😂@@bigboss9817
I have lived being a Hermaphrodite all my life, At lease her family did not bail on her, like mine did, and still does.
Without unconditional love it's a LIVING NIGHTMARE!
Poor girl. She didnt ask to be like that and now everyone is turning on her at the worst moment of her life.
1 of my best friends has this condition, i always thought it was rare but its a lot more common than people believe
I am absolutely shocked the door was open I am shocked that Ashley didn't have the right to refuse all the medical doctor students in there during that particular examination... you can refuse that
The endocrinologist is fucking hilarious even if it is unintentional 🤣
I thought he approached everything very matter-of-factly. No need to have drama.
@@onawal931issue was he didn't consider how his mannerism could affect Ashley.
I see one of those I have hyper thyroid.
I liked how the endocrinologist explains the biological process with such enthusiasm. He's super fascinated with the science of it.
Why were the door and curtain open when the doctors where gawking at her? Producers miss huge details, but that was pretty bad.
This was often the reality for intersex kids, sans the open door. Doctors would gather in groups to look at children's privates in the guise of "education" for the physicians, often without even bothering to ask for the parent's permission, let alone the child's.
That was not what she was expecting. It was nice of her to Kind to Ashley.
How did it end? I guess she didn't have a surgery..
And that "boyfriend" is disguisting...
you don't have to be intersex to think all the pomp and frills are so fake.
@@lila2986 go away. you're the one judging. the video makes it seem like because someone isn't into that it makes them less feminine. newsflash, not every woman cares for that.
@@lila2986 hush.
@@jones2277 somebody's knickers are in a twist
@@lila2986 You are both wrong being judgmental. Some women ae Girly girls and some aren't. There is nothing wrong with being either. It is you own taste in what you like.
Some women, men and enbeys like frills and sparkles, some don't.
Famous character actress Margo Martindale was in this episode. That automatically makes it awesome.
She is one of the Modern Greats!
"How did they get in there?" 😆 🤣 😂
I can’t believe that “dad”! You support and love your children forever dufus
The door was open when the doctors were talking to the patient.
With her legs open! Shut the door!
Just because she doesn't like dressing up and wearing make-up doesn't mean she's a boy. Being a boy is not the only way to get out of a pageant.
She IS a boy genetically speaking. The choice of the sex is difficult in this case since the patient grew up as a girl and their choice should be taken into account. If they feel that they're a boy then they should be turned into a boy. It's the right decision imo in this case anyway because it would allow them to have biological children in the future (the opposite is not true if they were left as a girl).
@@SomiaDz She has both hormones so she's no more a boy than she is a girl. The error in the writing is saying "she doesn't like makeup and all this girly stuff so she must be a boy." That doesn't make her a boy anymore than wanting to play football.
@@blue4t ALL people have BOTH types of hormones to some degree, even people who are not intersex.
I get what you're saying, but the fact that she doesn't like girly stuff is an indication that maybe she doesn't feel like a girl (not necessarily of course). We can't judge the whole script just from this clip. Maybe they explained how she feels more in the episode.
@@SomiaDzMaybe they didn't. The writing here is sloppy. You can argue about things that happen outside this video but in the context of this video it is sloppy.
@@blue4t I guess.
That description of how that transformation would happen fascinated me. The human body is amazing and terrifying at the same time.
That's one of the likely reasons why I couldn't be a doctor. I lack the empathy to look beyond biology and psychology. To see the person.
Surgical specialist then
Gently sharing an opinion... What a world this would be if we all could celebrate our differences. Where people with beliefs and those who are hosts to no beliefs can be woven/drawn together and where, if the desire is there, we can share in exploring this thing we call life and the cosmos that surrounds us. I am a wishful dreamer. Reality is that it is easier to hate and it is easier to make metaphorical demons out of the parts of life that we may not feel comfortable with. Sigh. Much love to all those who are often in the crosshairs of our harmful/devaluing propensities. 🌸
This is so sad! I feel bad for anyone that has to go through this!
I honestly hate labeling period. But in all honesty, we are labeled every single day of our lives, whether it is good labeling or bad, whether there is something wrong with us or not, some person may call you a bitch just because you are grumpy or laying down your boundaries. If you have a disorder or a mental illness or in this young person's case discovering you are a male rather than a female it is your choice and actions to choose how to take it.
Whether we like it or not we will continue to be labeled; but will we tolerate it or not is the question. If you have BPD, you can accept the challenges and show the world that you aren't going to allow your disorder to ruin your life, but choose to educate people that just because you have it doesn't make you a bad person. We all go through our ups and downs, but we don't allow them to break us, we allow it to strengthen us.
I think it is disgusting when parents and friends turn their backs on people who choose to accept what they were born with, or if they decide to change their sex, it is the person's choice and we can never understand what they are going through inside. My one sibling was born with both male and female parts, her mom and my dad decided since she was more female to let her be female. As an adult she could have decided to turn back to being a male but she didn't. Her mom and my dad would have accepted that change had she made it, I wish others were more accepting of this.
I feel for any child that this happens to, especially since this is usually discovered before they are adult. They’ve not had the time to develop a mature, experienced mind. They will be beset by parents, friends, peers, and others who are also not prepared to deal with such a situation. With few exceptions, peers and friends will not be able to handle the situation and often will be brutal. Again, with very few exceptions, even the medical staff will be challenged to deal with such a situation. Often, worst of all, the parents will have long developed expectations of their child and can bring terrible pressure to bear. Sadly, a large majority of people will say it is the parents’ choice to make, but this is a choice with permanent, life-long ramifications. I believe there should be a requirement for a minimum period of counseling before a decision can be made, and that in the event the child and parents disagree, the parents not be allowed to force their opinion on the child. The child should be removed if the parents are found to be coercing the child. Parents do not own their children. I know many will vehemently disagree with me. So be it.
Let the kid decide?! Thats what they're been doing with gender confused kids and look how THATS been working out.
I am intersex formally know as hermaphrodite and I have Klinefelter Syndrome meaning that my chromosomes are XXY and I choose to appear as female because that's what my brain sees and eyes sees when I look at myself in a mirror and anyone who disagrees... oh well you can do whatever you want to me even kill me it won't change how my brain sees me and my heart feels all the drugs, surgeries and therapy won't change who I am I'm a woman you don't have to like it, agree or even deal with it because you're not living in my shoes I am so anyone who disagrees your opinion doesn't matter and if you don't like me and don't want to be friends well then that tells me you don't deserve me as friend and trust me folks ask anyone I'm the ride or die chick it's your loss besides there's over 8.5 billion people on earth I'm pretty sure I'll find some people that will accept me
@@RaptorFromWeegeeno it's because you have people who think they can tell other people how to live and who to love and if they can have kids or not, you'll never understand because you'll never be in that position so I don't expect you to understand what's it like
@@EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman I wasn't commenting on the LGB part of LGBT, I was commenting on just the "T" part. So it has nothing to do with "who they can love" or child baring.
My point is that our current understanding of tran-ness is highly flawed. Theres been an unmistakable and long standing campaign of misinformation on the subject emanating from the elite. Clearly, our current treatment of gender is not working. Even with medical treatment and acceptance, theres still a very high suicide rate.
John Hopkins Med School ended their sex change program a long time ago, because it was pseudo-scientific. Britain and Sweden recently banned sex changes for children. You tube is filled with kids who have detransitioned. They pour out their hearts in these heart wrenching videos.
One by one, US states are banning transing children and I expect those bans will soon get expanded to adults as well. Bottom line, the current system is NOT producing good long term outcomes, so its got to change. You are what people perceive you to be.
@@EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman your thoughts and feelings should be based on scientific reality. you can't just state that something is something that which it is absolutely not. You can't call an octopus a dog, an asteroid an apple. Just say you like looking and acting like a woman. But you cannot say you are something you are not, unless it's evidence-based fact.
She was awesome as Samara in The Ring.
Lilo
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i stayyy watching these short clips of MD i love it
If she’s just discovering it, how bad could it be?
"Thoughts?" had me cracking up 😂
Ya, that was the best line in the whole clip. LOL
Damn...This kid can go from Cheerleader to Linebacker.
Lacking testosterone in the tween and teen years means that (s)he will be small later on. One of the smaller faster players.
House MD did the same thing and made her "The most beautiful girl in the world" So Mercy basically does it to with "So beautiful she's in a beauty pageant"
I’m intersexed and I have CAH. This is exactly what happened to me only the crowd of doctors were bigger while undressed.
I was born with a DSD and doctors treated me that way.
There's a village in South America where this is common and accepted as just one of those things that happen sometimes
"How did they get in there." LMAOOOO
There was a House M.D. show with almost the same exact plot -- except the subject was a runway model, not a high school homecoming queen
This is a different situation, as she in this episode would respond to testosterone, if that's what she chooses. The other one had Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, meaning she would never become masculinized.
That's one thing I've noticed... Hermaphrodites are extremely beautiful people. I've seen about 5 or 6 real-life episodes on TV over the years about them and they've always been a 10/10 in the beauty department.
Those are actors. Actors who are actually female.
@@Pteromandias Someone needs to explain to you what "real-life" means.
FYI: the current term for someone with Ashley's condition is INTERSEX but i guess that doesn't bait clicks quite like using the outdated, problematic, offensive term "hermaphrodite". Smh.
Stop rewriting language, history, moral. There is nothing offensive in the word hermaphrodite. You don't get to force people to talk as you like. Your feelings are your own personal business, deal with them.
@@ilmaio Yikes, so you don’t know how language works? Weird thing to flex about, but if you desperately need to use outdated words while watching your “stories”, do you, boo.
@@ilmaio The medical term is intersex and has been for some time now. Welcome to the 21st century.
How is the term hermaphrodite problematic and offensive? I can concern that the term intersex is a newer and more used term...but legitimately please explain.
This episode was from 2009 and that's the word they used.
The best of both worlds! 🙂
Lol. Saw the title and thought this was that episode from House MD. Different medical drama using the same plot.
There's only so many medical cases out there lol. I think every medical drama goes down this road.
Intersex
I would’ve been like “CUT IT OFF!” 😂
The irony of the last statement about her age in light of the agenda this show is trying to push is not lost on me.
"Kids should be able to transition" yet, this girl should have time to think about a life changing surgery?
Which is it?
I think House did this episode much better.
They were completely different conditions.
Pretty sure they took this one from House MD!
Intersex people exist in real life
Two totally different conditions!
This is like that House ep where the perfect woman is a man.
How does this episode end?
x2
"Well, how'd they get in there!?" lmfao...
title should say "intersex," nobody uses the word "hermaphrodite" anymore.
in 2009, most laypeople would say that.
No, we should *not* go back and re-title or re-word one single word of any book or movie or anything written prior to today. That's the Thought Police. Yes, strive for a better new society but be careful about making words taboo; you might instead get a Brave New World (Huxley) or a 1984 (Orwell). Both books should be required reading for every human. And re-read every decade.
It is the medical term. No?
@@Noa...... For animals, not so much humans really
@@augustible9151 Humans are classified as mammals (i.e. vertebrate animals).
Didn’t house md have almost the exact same storyline
Yeah, they could've at least gone with a different intersex condition, there's plenty to choose from.
@@finnstewart4747 There aren't that many.
@@finnstewart4747 'Plenty to chose from' Enlighten me, please.
@@Pteromandias - How many are there?
There was a show that had a similar thing going on where the doctors say "Barbie is actually Ken"
First I think the most important is to love yourself, and I mean, understand that you did nothing wrong.
That doc with a lomp is evil!
Best nurse award 💪🏼 3:47 ♥️♥️♥️
Totally unrealistic though.
I was at Target for 20 minutes because I couldn't decide between straight or relaxed-fit jeans.
what I'd like to know is how the boyfriend found out. sure the heck wasn't for Mom and Dad or the doctors or nurses and I'm pretty sure it wasn't from Ashley
"How did they get in there?" 😂
Fabulous. This was already on House MD, February 20, 2006, "Skin Deep", 2nd season, 13th episode.
People know this is a show not a documentary right..... 😂😂
Kind of feels like they ripped off House MD (although I get the patients had different conditions).
On another note, why does the actress playing the chief seems familiar?
She's been in a ton of movies. Most recently Cocaine Bear.
@@brandonallen3808 Thank you. I looked her up after reading this, and realised I remembered her from _A Gifted Man_
So here is a great revelation,”so what!!”
The whole episode got me stuck.
It's rough when you work up a good strong mad, then realize the person you are mad at isn't wrong.
But dealing with rough things in a mature way is the difference between being an adult and being childish.
It may be rough to admit the other side is right and you have been wrong, especially when you are angry, But it makes you look really good if you can quench the anger and say, "I'm sorry for getting angry. You are right. I couldn't see it before, now I do."
Oh look it's Gina from Sesame Street!
Pretty much all the conversations and behaviors in this are strange. The nurse also fails to make the important point, "She's never felt like a girl or wanted to be one."
Given the situation, it may as well be allowed to be played out.
0:50 how do you get this far in life w/o a medical professional discovering this medical condition?
Not as uncommon as you might think. Until fairly recently, most people with CAIS found out as teens or young adults.
The same condition was shown in a House episode. Also for a beauty pageant contestant.
No it was a different condition called, Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome CAIS but internal testicles too. But it won't cause eventual masculinisation
The doctor in this clip said she would respond to testosterone, thus not AIS.
@@RKingis yes it's 5-alpha reductase deficiency
Model not a beauty pageant
It's traumatizing. No way around it.
The girl in this is named Ashley and my name is Ashley! 😃
A bit of a rough way to discuss intersex people.
a downright disrespectful way to discuss intersex people!
On one hand that girls entire life is now in a major shakeup and she has to decide her future. on the other hand the friend who was also a boy, his life is also now in serious issue. 1.he will be tourmented via teesing for the rest of his young life until he moves away 2.he will question his sexuality the rest of his life when in fact he's straight 3.this will no doubt lead to negative things in his life the rest of his life. soo basically both lives were ruined in one fell swoop. what an episode.
I feel like im in a time loop i swear this has happened before
"Intersexual"? Never heard of that. Is that the correct term? I’ve always only ever heard "intersex."
Personally things that’d should not be a parents desision :
Doing surgery on a child that is a homaphrodite , circumcision of a child no matter what gender , changing the full name and birth certificate of a child they adopted .
Those desision are from the child to make when they are at least 18 a legal adult or most ideally age 25 as your body and brain medically stop developing then to make your own identity declarations that are permanent impact
Doing a surgery on a child that is intersex*
Also maybe doing gender assignment surgery on a child who is intersex* unless you think parents shouldn't be allowed to decide their toddler can have a tumor removed
Changing an adopted child's name on a birth certificate isn't that big of a deal. You can still get copies of the original certificate. It also helps kids to have the same last name as their parents, especially littles. My fiance has his original birth certificate and it says Baby Boy Green, should he have kept it that way? He basically had no name given to him at birth because he was going to be adopted.
There is a similar case is HouseM.D where a model is diagnosed to have male features. House says at the end- the perfect woman is a man.
What a horrible thing to say
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 nothing horrible. It was a statement. He had admired her as a woman throughout the episode and when they discovered she had male parts, he made that statement
Where can I see more of this
I already saw this plotline on House 🙄 with slight differences.
That's because they have different Intersex conditions.
@@RKingisAnnnnd? What’s your point?
@@TheBoneVampire There are around 40 known Intersex conditions. So different conditions.
"Thoughts?" 🤣!!!
This tv show has never been broadcasted overhre in belgium europe - not sure if it does somewhere else ?
But parents did not see it while she was a baby?
Not everyone who was born with intersex conditions know at birth, or in older times. If it was known at birth, the doctors would operate on the baby and not tell the parents.
How do I find the rest of the story I want to know the ending.
I doubt things would have been handled this way. But it was probably for drama purposes for the show. And there is HPAA as well. The nurse may very well have been sued.
She needs to be who she is. I’m so tired of putting people into boxes.
3time a medical show is doing this plotline😂😂😂
So? Intersex people do exist.
"Yo Dawg, I heard you like that Hermaphrodite episode on House, so I made an episode, which is like a collage of that one, with more things in it, plus a mom and a boyfriend, and an endocrinologist with the same sounding surname like the other show, so you can reminisce the old House episode, enjoy this new Mercy point of view, and talk about it when it's out on TH-cam!"
literally
That was a bit different.
This is a condition know as Guevodoces.
It’s rare, and usually happens in the Dominican Republic.
They have unusually high rates of it.
This is not hermaphroditism.
Hermaphroditism is physically impossible in humans. This is an intersex condition.
@@dangeary2134 I immediately read about the condition.
There's only one case I know in my country which the person after puberty became fully functional male with normal children.
Different Intersex condition, as there is around 40 recognized conditions.
Does anyone have spoilers???